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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 02:15:53 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-057-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 02:17:22 *** Chrill [Chrill@c83-253-89-11.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 02:21:45 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-177-142.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:21:47 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 02:27:21 *** Biolunar_ [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e262.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us] 03:35:15 *** TheStranger [5b250bf5@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 03:35:16 <TheStranger> gamers watch this you won't regret it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHtwgMZlSQ&feature=plcp 03:35:18 *** TheStranger [5b250bf5@ircip3.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 03:41:04 *** KouDy [~KouDy@175.137.100.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:51:54 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 04:02:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6B73F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:07:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A3C8.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:17:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@175.137.100.254] has joined #openttd 04:21:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 04:21:25 <andythenorth> moin 04:42:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67CAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:43:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC674FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:05:58 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:09:44 *** namad8 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:10:30 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:19:16 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-60-175.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 05:42:07 <andythenorth> hmm 05:43:13 <andythenorth> vehicle replacements 05:43:36 <andythenorth> those form a directed graph right? 05:43:57 <andythenorth> [in my newgrf where vehicles have a 'replaced by' property] 05:44:15 * andythenorth is trying to figure out how to generate a replacement tree 05:44:53 <Supercheese> Well, first you have to get a replacement seed, and then dig a hole in the ground... 05:44:56 <Supercheese> :P 05:46:03 <andythenorth> you're closer than you think :P 05:46:20 <andythenorth> if I know the root vehicle for any replacement chain, it's easy to represent it 05:46:23 <andythenorth> if I don't...it's hard :P 05:47:12 <andythenorth> A -> B -> C -> D is easy to represent if I know A is the start 05:47:29 <andythenorth> but I don't know that :P 05:47:43 <andythenorth> there's no 'replaces' prop, just 'replaced by' 05:48:03 <Supercheese> then make one 05:49:37 <Supercheese> btw are we talking about your config file or in nml afterwards? 05:51:28 <Supercheese> Oh are you joining forces with the WSF ferry set? 05:52:08 <Rubidium> andythenorth: hopefully they form a directed acyclic graph (thus a set of trees) 05:52:51 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52:54 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has joined #openttd 05:53:49 <andythenorth> Rubidium: yes it's a set of DAGS (/me had a wikipedia visit) 05:54:52 <andythenorth> actually I think it's a straightforward dep graph 05:57:06 <andythenorth> Supercheese: this is for documentation / testing only 05:57:30 <andythenorth> writing out the dep graph of replacements in plain text lets me check everything is configured correctly 05:57:35 <andythenorth> and might be interesting to players 06:01:52 <andythenorth> I could walk all the vehicles and derive a 'replaces' list for each one (from the 'replaced by' prop) 06:02:11 <andythenorth> then look for vehicles with 'replaces = none' 06:02:26 <andythenorth> which would form the start of chains 06:02:48 <andythenorth> then iterate from there, building lists 06:03:03 <andythenorth> seems like it might scale unpleasantly :P 06:09:56 <NGC3982> morning 06:18:33 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.64.121.22] has joined #openttd 06:18:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 06:19:32 <Eddi|zuHause> <Rubidium> andythenorth: hopefully they form a directed acyclic graph (thus a set of trees) <-- actually directed acyclic is more generic than set of (directed) trees. the equivalence holds only for undirected graphs 06:20:26 <andythenorth> interesting 06:21:12 <andythenorth> hmm 06:21:21 <andythenorth> why is nml still shouting at me about dutch strings? 06:21:28 <andythenorth> "String commands don't match with english.lng" 06:22:05 <andythenorth> solved 06:24:48 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:27:41 * Eddi|zuHause imagines the andythenorth-solution to that problem being "remove dutch.lng" 06:28:46 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.65.224] has joined #openttd 06:29:13 <andythenorth> :P 06:29:17 * andythenorth did it properly 06:29:31 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.75.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:29:41 <andythenorth> although I do favour the occam's razor approach :P 06:29:59 <andythenorth> fewer codes = less bugs 06:30:24 * andythenorth wonders if that holds 06:30:39 <andythenorth> it's possible to have one line of code riddled with enormous bugs 06:30:50 <NGC3982> of course it does? 06:34:21 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-108-226.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:41:01 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: "whenever you fix one bug, you create two new ones" doesn't depend on code size (-difference) 06:41:39 <NGC3982> surely, compressing code makes the creator more aware of the used functions? 06:42:01 <NGC3982> i mean, the big problem with me learning C# is that i use code that codes code that codes code that doesnt work. 06:42:04 <NGC3982> :> 06:47:41 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a very bold theory :p 06:48:14 <Supercheese> Yo dawg, I heard you like code, so we made you code that codes... 06:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant the line before that 06:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no problem with code that codes :) 06:49:11 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-96-129.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 06:51:34 <NGC3982> well, i hope you catch my drift. 06:52:11 <NGC3982> for instance 06:52:41 <NGC3982> i managed to make an sql query that collected information, formated it with code that didnt change anything and then wrote it back to the database. 06:52:48 <NGC3982> by accident 06:54:53 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.65.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:06:24 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 07:08:31 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-99-174.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 07:13:16 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-96-129.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:20 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-24-165.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 07:14:50 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:15:32 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 07:19:19 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-25-186.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:03 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-103-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 07:35:36 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@79-68-99-174.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:35:58 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 07:48:25 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1228 07:48:25 *** Guest1228 [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:59:25 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-2-5.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 08:06:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:27:18 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:33:41 <andythenorth> what happens if I have an nml vehicle with no graphics block? 08:34:43 <Terkhen> good morning 08:40:49 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 08:41:27 <__ln__> mañanas buenas 08:42:10 <NGC3982> andythenorth: i did that by accident while making the tutorial truck. i cant remember the error messages, but it didnt work at all without an added picture. 08:42:17 <NGC3982> a blank picture gives a blank truck. 08:42:26 * NGC3982 tried to put all kinds of stuff in there 08:43:54 *** jstepien [~jstepien@galera.ii.pw.edu.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:07 <andythenorth> V453000: feel like drawing a ship? 08:48:34 <NGC3982> andythenorth: http://i.imgur.com/IVW7M.png 08:48:36 <NGC3982> there you go 08:48:41 <NGC3982> have fun, no need to thank me. 08:51:23 * NGC3982 is so bored out. 08:53:59 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the graphics block is the nml-equivalent to nfo action 3 08:54:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. without it you can only change default properties, not introduce new vehicles 08:55:04 <Terkhen> __ln__: "buenos dias" 08:55:27 <__ln__> Terkhen: dÃas 08:56:03 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: sounds plausible for my case 08:59:15 * andythenorth is desperately seeking competent artists 08:59:23 *** jstepien [~jstepien@galera.ii.pw.edu.pl] has joined #openttd 08:59:25 <andythenorth> incompetent artists > competent artists :P 09:01:11 * NGC3982 sad face. 09:05:01 <Terkhen> andythenorth: tired of pushing sprites? 09:05:11 <andythenorth> approximately 09:05:21 <andythenorth> I wouldn't mind if I had uninterrupted hours to do it 09:05:24 <andythenorth> but I don't 09:05:34 <andythenorth> it's easier to code with an uninterrupted flow than draw 09:05:44 <andythenorth> uninterrupted / interrupted /s 09:06:08 <__ln__> Terkhen: ¿es legal tomar fotos en lugares públicos en españa? 09:06:33 <Terkhen> __ln__: I don't know the details but usually yes 09:07:49 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e262.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:07:58 <__ln__> vale 09:08:20 <planetmaker> English only, __ln__ 09:09:44 <__ln__> replace e->i in my question and it's virtually english 09:10:05 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-113-122.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:11:04 <planetmaker> is legal tomar fotos in luaris pulicos in espana? Rather not 09:11:20 <planetmaker> especially not from language pedantics like you ;-) 09:13:36 <NGC3982> tomar fotos sounds like a planetary system in star trek DS9. 09:13:56 <Terkhen> it sounds like taking pictures to me 09:14:04 <planetmaker> :-) 09:14:59 <planetmaker> The question not hard to guess. But I find it funny comming from the channels "English only" person :-) 09:15:06 <planetmaker> *channel's 09:15:42 <planetmaker> thus, sorry, couldn't help myself to pickup that ball :-) 09:15:52 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-1-145.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:33 <__ln__> my "English only" comments would be taken far too seriously if i wasn't the one probably speaking the most non-english in here. :) 09:19:14 <NGC3982> uhm 09:19:33 <NGC3982> seriosly, when i read "english only" in a topic, ill asume that jokes and single events are allowed. 09:20:02 <__ln__> NGC3982: English only; "I'll" 09:20:16 <NGC3982> harr. 09:21:15 *** Dutch [536cbbc0@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:21:17 <__ln__> besides, nowadays nobody speaks hungarian here on a regular basis, so we need to come up with something else. 09:21:20 <planetmaker> we're humor free and allow no exceptions. Except for zombies 09:21:38 <NGC3982> ive seen the truth in that first statement a few times now.. 09:21:43 <Dutch> I have a problem in the game help please !!1 09:22:01 <NGC3982> Dutch: ohnoez call the maglevbulance! \o/ 09:22:49 <Dutch> i download the bus and tram set, but its dont show up in the game why ??????? 09:23:14 <NGC3982> can i aks to aks a kuestion? 09:23:18 <planetmaker> Did you use the ingame content download to obtain it? Did you activate it in the NewGRF settings? 09:23:53 <Dutch> yes both 09:23:58 <planetmaker> Did you start a new game after activation in the NewGRF settings? 09:24:18 <planetmaker> Changes there do not apply to existing savegames 09:24:46 <NGC3982> planetmaker: speaking of, is it possible to add or remove any grf's at all during a running game?= 09:24:49 <NGC3982> -= 09:25:57 <Dutch> im gonna try to start a new game first' 09:27:11 <planetmaker> NGC3982: I believe you know the answer to that question already... 09:27:24 <NGC3982> planetmaker: i do, but im emphasizing the "at all" 09:28:26 <Dutch> it works only in new game 09:28:48 <Dutch> not in my old saving maps 09:28:50 <NGC3982> Dutch: yes, that is how NewGRF's work. you need to apply NewGRF's before starting a new game. 09:29:43 <planetmaker> Dutch: yes, that's intended and there's no "cure". NewGRF settings are an integral part of the map. 09:29:54 <peter1138> andythenorth, got the floor boards up. Managed to screw right through the middle of it... 09:30:02 <andythenorth> how exciting 09:30:11 <andythenorth> should have just left the screw in 09:30:13 <planetmaker> NewGRF define the game objects. Changing the meaning of the objects mid-game will usually break your savegames 09:30:16 <andythenorth> do it a bit tighter, problem solved 09:30:17 <peter1138> andythenorth, it is! 09:30:44 <peter1138> I'm leaving it like that until the gas man comes so 1) he can extract it safely, and 2) he can LOL all day about it... 09:30:44 <NGC3982> planetmaker: so i guess, the answer was "no, there is no grf that can be changed or added during in-game. ever."? 09:31:37 <peter1138> And also, where does one get new floorboards from... 09:31:51 <peter1138> Neither B&Q nor Wickes seem to do them. 09:31:57 <planetmaker> theoretically the answer is 'yes'. But it needs knowledge as of which. And it's not necessarily the obvious ones. And to every rule there's an exception there. So in general 'no'. Except for people who know what they do (aka newgrf developers) 09:32:10 <Dutch> thank you all for help 09:32:13 *** Dutch [536cbbc0@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 09:37:42 <planetmaker> NGC3982: due to the fragility and the even theoretical inability to predict compatibility (even of newgrf A v1 and newgrf A v1.01 with eachother), things cannot be changed. Unless you activate the proper developer settings 09:39:49 <planetmaker> newgrf authors could even make a newgrf which de-activates randomly other newgrfs... 09:39:51 <Terkhen> the only solution would be to deprecate NewGRFs completely and create a new type of addon that would take into account stuff like that from the start :P 09:40:00 <Terkhen> s/solution/"solution"/ 09:40:06 <planetmaker> now, I like that idea, random de-activation. lol :-) 09:40:25 <__ln__> Terkhen: is it a common practice that keyboard shortcuts are localized into spanish? e.g. Bold is Ctrl-N, Underline is Ctrl-S, Save is Ctrl-G? 09:40:58 <Terkhen> __ln__: yes 09:41:13 <Terkhen> it is quite stupid 09:41:35 <planetmaker> uh, that's common practise? 09:41:42 <NGC3982> planetmaker: i see. 09:42:02 <NGC3982> random de-activation :D 09:42:07 <Terkhen> planetmaker: yes :P 09:42:32 <__ln__> that's surprising to say the least.. 09:43:08 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43:50 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:44:29 <__ln__> in a way it makes sense, but... i guess there are programs whose shortcuts are not designed to be localizable. 10:19:31 *** CornishPasty_ [users.158@brockwell.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 10:20:00 *** CornishPasty is now known as Guest1246 10:20:00 *** Guest1246 [users.158@brockwell.irccloud.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20:00 *** CornishPasty_ is now known as cornishpasty 10:20:00 *** cornishpasty is now known as CornishPasty 10:35:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 10:48:45 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ipd50adc22.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:02:30 <__ln__> however it's not a reason for everyone to stop talking 11:02:39 <NGC3982> :D 11:09:31 <Eddi|zuHause> it's as good an excuse as any... 11:09:54 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: how's your buy menu patch? 11:10:08 <andythenorth> that's another excuse to not talk :) 11:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause> it's starving of neglect 11:10:33 <Varazir> I'm having problem that my iron pits will not delevery any ore 11:12:23 <NGC3982> Varazir: have you made sure that the station is close enough to the industry? 11:12:39 <Varazir> yes 11:12:53 <Varazir> it's next to it 11:13:12 <NGC3982> Varazir: are there more then one station in the vicinity of the industry? 11:13:25 <Varazir> I have 2 pits with the same problem 11:13:39 <NGC3982> are you using some kind of NewGRF? 11:13:49 <Varazir> no default installation 11:15:02 <NGC3982> Varazir: note that an industry wont deliver any goods to a nearby station, if the vehicle used isnt configured to accept and carry the iron ore. 11:15:35 <NGC3982> check your train/truck, and see if you have the wrong wagons or/and made the correct refit. 11:15:43 <Varazir> ok 11:15:47 <Varazir> will check 11:15:58 <Varazir> could be that the stations I have ar eto close 11:16:07 <NGC3982> let me know if you need help on how refit/choosing the correct wagons for refit works. 11:22:18 <Varazir> will do 11:34:52 *** Arafangion [~Arafangio@115.187.249.57] has joined #openttd 11:42:42 <planetmaker> Varazir, industries will also only deliver stuff to a station (by default) after a vehicle tried to pickup the cargo there 11:42:44 <planetmaker> at least once 11:43:04 <planetmaker> also: it's a self-generated map, not a scenario you play, right? 11:43:04 <Varazir> could be that 11:43:11 <Varazir> self 11:43:46 <planetmaker> (scenarios could be anything - they're basically a savegame, thus settings will be as the scenarion creator chose them to be) 11:45:10 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 11:46:46 <Varazir> I think it's a opps 11:46:59 <Varazir> but I'll check it later 11:47:51 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has joined #openttd 11:47:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 11:48:09 <Alberth> moin 11:48:44 <planetmaker> hallo Alberth 11:51:45 <andythenorth> bon midi 11:52:43 <Alberth> hi andy 11:55:10 <planetmaker> hi andythenorth 12:00:10 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:15:06 *** Arafangion [~Arafangio@115.187.249.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:22 *** flaa [~flaa@cable-roi-ff30c000-246.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:09:15 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 13:23:36 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Hugs to all] 13:23:51 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has joined #openttd 14:05:50 *** flaa [~flaa@cable-roi-ff30c000-246.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:46 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.13.127] has joined #openttd 14:43:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@175.137.100.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:22 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:30:20 *** flaa [~flaa@cable-roi-ff30c000-246.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:46:44 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:34 <peter1138> andythenorth, gas pipe fixed 16:08:51 <peter1138> although it was a bit worrying when he started unscrewing it and asked "is the gas off?" 16:10:26 <Hirundo> That's a whole new level of 'smoke testing' 16:11:03 <andythenorth> he sounds like a comedian 16:11:38 * andythenorth would hate to think of all those "I have a patch for that somewhere's" exploding :P 16:21:32 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe he should have had a patch for the pipe :p 16:25:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff179.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:45 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d466:a113:8171:8de3] has joined #openttd 16:28:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:42:17 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-60-175.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 16:45:53 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-60-175.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:36 *** flaa [~flaa@cable-roi-ff30c000-246.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:51:58 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-2-5.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:00 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.64.121.22] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06:17 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:15:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has joined #openttd 17:15:12 <Wolf01> hello 17:16:58 <NGC3982> im so bored. 17:17:14 <Wolf01> you're not alone 17:27:40 *** Sacro [~Ben@cpc5-reig5-2-0-cust81.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:55:30 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@115.133.13.127] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:56:32 <NGC3982> in FIRS 17:56:42 <NGC3982> how come there is no animation on the sand pit? 17:57:21 <Alberth> sounds like a good project to fight boredom :p 17:58:02 <andythenorth> NGC3982: what are you thinking of animating? 17:59:21 <NGC3982> sand! everywhere! 18:02:43 <andythenorth> the water is animated 18:02:47 <andythenorth> you want more? :P 18:04:00 <__ln__> andythenorth: the sandworm should be animated 18:04:25 * andythenorth animates andythenorth sleeping 18:05:01 <NGC3982> andythenorth: it is? 18:05:15 <andythenorth> you have full animation turned off? 18:05:23 <andythenorth> the water has waves 18:05:23 <NGC3982> oh 18:05:24 <NGC3982> .. 18:07:09 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-133-9-237.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:18:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.13.127] has joined #openttd 18:21:44 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d466:a113:8171:8de3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:55 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d466:a113:8171:8de3] has joined #openttd 18:35:56 <telanus1> I thing I found openttd's smallest town: http://goput.it/3vr.png 18:36:02 <NGC3982> :-O 18:37:41 <Eddi|zuHause> telanus1: a town with a church has 0 inhabitants, afair 18:38:07 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-133-9-237.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:29 <telanus1> haven't found one of them 18:39:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@115.133.13.127] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:40:36 <planetmaker> you can have towns without buildings ;-) 18:41:47 * NGC3982 builds a church on top of PM 18:42:52 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 18:45:16 * FLHerne rants about breakdowns on the forum :P 18:48:12 *** Sacro [~Ben@cpc5-reig5-2-0-cust81.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-27-238.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:57:29 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-133-9-237.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:10:42 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-115-159.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:11:49 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-60-175.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:55 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-24-165.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:32 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-115-159.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:34 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: frosch * r24449 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#5254]: Coast and sea are not the same. 19:27:30 <FLHerne> @fs 5254 19:27:30 <DorpsGek> FLHerne: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5254 19:29:10 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-121-32.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:36:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:38:17 *** Alberth [~hat3@2001:980:272e:1:21a:92ff:fe55:fc8d] has left #openttd [] 19:54:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:10:55 <frosch123> night 20:10:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff179.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:44 <planetmaker> FLHerne: your rant is... true nevertheless. At least in large parts 20:20:39 <FLHerne> Recognised by someone importantish! :D 20:21:00 * FLHerne is honoured :-) 20:21:10 <Wolf01> 'night 20:21:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.234.29] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:27:12 <FLHerne> Is it sane for OTTD to save screenshots to ~/.openttd? 20:27:35 <FLHerne> Sticking them in a hidden folder is a bit inconvenient 20:34:55 <planetmaker> that's the linux way to put things related to a certain programme 20:35:11 <planetmaker> windows uses like Documents/OpenTTD and so does OSX 20:35:48 <FLHerne> planetmaker: I thought that was more for config or program data, rather than user-facing stuff? 20:38:16 <planetmaker> yes... 20:38:56 <FLHerne> Is there a config-file/settings option for that? 20:39:02 <planetmaker> what's NewGRFs? 20:39:17 <planetmaker> what's scenarios? Is there a difference between content_download and manual download? 20:39:28 *** Sacro [~Ben@cpc5-reig5-2-0-cust81.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:34 <planetmaker> it's a compile-time thing 20:41:32 <FLHerne> Program data, I suppose? Online content covers a lot of that sort of thing...people faffing around with strange NewGRFs (me included) should just put up with it 20:41:58 <FLHerne> Add a :P to that sentence :P 20:42:46 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@on6.co.uk] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 20:43:17 <FLHerne> But more seriously, the 'standard user' can get most NewGRFs etc from the online content just by clicking on a few buttons 20:43:37 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@on6.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:20:09 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:41 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-133-9-237.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:43 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:55 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.64.121.22] has joined #openttd 21:42:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 21:43:24 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:25 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:43 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:02:32 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-057-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 22:04:34 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:06:08 *** TGYoshi [~TGYoshi@86.81.146.146] has quit [Quit: Hugs to all] 22:07:48 *** Elukka [Elukka@78-27-97-92.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:19:06 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d161-184-227-133.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:37 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.79.188] has joined #openttd 22:32:39 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ipd50adc22.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 22:34:29 *** Pixa [~pixa@79-68-103-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:10 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-27-238.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC674FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:23 *** Sacro [~Ben@cpc5-reig5-2-0-cust81.6-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC674FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC674FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC674FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:50:41 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@524A7DE2.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Shutting down for Wacken]