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00:10:23 *** APTX_ [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has joined #openttd 00:10:25 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:59 <Kitty> why can't I demolish a statue ? 00:36:40 <Supercheese> Time to use magic bulldozer cheat? 00:38:59 <Kitty> is it actually a feature to be unable to demolish a statue ? 00:39:20 <Supercheese> I dunno, search the forums? 00:39:54 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=46196 00:40:14 <Supercheese> Seems like an intended feature 00:43:54 <Kitty> bah 00:50:58 *** MoonShine [MoonShine@CPE-121-218-249-149.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:51:11 <MoonShine> hey all 00:51:41 <Supercheese> Salve 00:52:47 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 00:54:03 <MoonShine> anybody had dependancy issues with ubuntu server saying theres some missing when trying to run dpdg, command line only 01:03:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:712c:b803:121b:ab30] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:31:44 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120824154833]] 02:03:43 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-14-184.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 02:03:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 02:09:29 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-172-210.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:25 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-23-196.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:15:56 <Supercheese> I hope you can access vehicle variables when returning values from a callback block, say, "power: return cargo_subtype*300;" 02:16:12 <Supercheese> if not, I'm going to have to make a lot more switches 02:17:50 <Supercheese> well, I suppose (cargo_subtype+1)*300 02:21:04 <Supercheese> my logic might be flawed here anyway 02:21:06 <Supercheese> hmm 03:45:17 <Supercheese> No, my logic worked, and you can :) 04:15:14 *** 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15.0.1/20120905151427]] 07:24:57 <Terkhen> good morning 07:39:38 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-061-228.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:12:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:25:58 <dihedral> greetings 08:32:34 <Terkhen> hi dihedral 08:33:24 *** Guilux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:41:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.177.103] has joined #openttd 08:45:32 *** Guilux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has joined #openttd 08:47:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.188.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50:37 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:50 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 08:54:07 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 09:01:25 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:06 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 10:00:13 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 10:19:46 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:23:25 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [] 10:36:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD447.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:01 <fjb> Moin. 10:39:49 <Markk> Moin 11:10:39 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 11:28:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: after some digging in the source and the logs i found this: "[28. Mai 2011] [00:41:41] <Yexo> looks like the wiki (and so also eddi) is wrong, what is called "subspeed" at the wiki is actually stored in the variable "progress"" 11:28:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: which looks like the basis of my misunderstanding 11:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "38 B On each round of vehicle processing, if the vehicle is not stopped, the low byte of current speed (or 3/4 of the current speed, if bit 0 of vehicle direction is clear) is subtracted from this field; if the result overflows the vehicle is to move by 1 unit of location (for trains, the vehicle additionally is to move by the number of units equal to the high byte of the current speed) " 11:32:47 <Eddi|zuHause> this doesn't appear in newgrf_engine.cpp 11:42:41 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:54:45 <BadBrett> Eddi: Yeah, that seems to solve the mystery. By the way, do you know if there's any way to tell whether a vehicle is on a slope or not? Can't seem to find the right variable... 11:55:15 <NGC3982> Morning 11:55:18 <NGC3982> Afternoon* 12:01:27 <Eddi|zuHause> "case 0x38: return (v->GetAdvanceSpeed() - v->progress)*256/v->GetAdvanceSpeed();" <-- does that make any sense? 12:01:52 <Eddi|zuHause> BadBrett: if z-position is not divisible by 8? 12:02:30 <Eddi|zuHause> note that this may cause bad effects if there are two consecutive slopes 12:02:56 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise you can check "other_veh_z_pos", to see whether it's different 12:03:44 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:04:20 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, in the above code, it should be GetAdvanceDistance 12:05:21 <Snail> hi all 12:05:21 <BadBrett> Ah, thanks 12:06:02 <Snail> just wondering, did you guys have the time to implement the additional counting mode for RandomAction2 (type 84) we spoke about yesterday? 12:06:16 <Snail> i.e. counting from the last vehicle towards the engine 12:08:22 *** Arendtsen [arendtsen@tux.nerdheaven.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08:23 *** Arendtsen [arendtsen@tux.nerdheaven.dk] has joined #openttd 12:10:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: can't you use advanced stuff to calculate the offset? 12:11:30 <Snail> I could, but randomaction2 has the limit of 15 12:11:44 <Snail> so it wouldn't work on long consists (or consists made of vehicles with multiple IDs) 12:12:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that exceeds my current knowledge 12:12:09 <Snail> plus, we've got the way to count from the engine to the end, so it would make sense to have the opposite way too (would allow to write symmetric code) 12:15:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. similar things were discussed for var61/62, but never implemented 12:15:52 * planetmaker still thinks that push-pull should be implemented openttd-side, not newgrf side 12:16:01 <planetmaker> but I said that already ;-) 12:16:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the idea was that if you query the "related object", then negative parameter for var61/62 would count from end 12:16:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but that would have complicated the code, so nobody did it 12:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> in CETS i only use randomaction2 to query the "front" of the articulated vehicle, i.e. no more than 2 vehicles ahead 12:17:53 <Snail> but var61 is an advancedvaraction, so you can do some extra calculation there 12:18:00 <Snail> which you can't do for random actions 12:18:35 <Snail> yep... in the French Set, I query all the vehicles in a consist when I do push-pull trains 12:18:51 <Snail> so having randomaction2 count from the end towards the engine would be the complement of the way we can do now 12:20:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: from what i read at the wiki, you might want to extend the "count" part, to the values "count forward, starting at the last vehicle" and "count forward, starting at the last same-id vehicle" 12:21:23 <Eddi|zuHause> there are 2 bits free, so it should fit 12:21:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: oh: "The low nibble (bits 0-3) specifies how far to count from the starting vehicle. If it is zero, the count will be read from GRF register 100h instead." 12:21:53 <Snail> yes, Hirundo, frosch and I talked about it yesterday 12:22:07 <Snail> they told me it would be doable, so I was wondering if they had implemented it :) 12:22:10 <Eddi|zuHause> so register 100h may contain larger values than 0-15? 12:22:32 <Snail> planetmaker: yes I agree :) but so far it hasn't been implemented yet, so I'm doing something on the newGRF side 12:22:54 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: i'm really amazed at how far you've come with this, thoug :) 12:23:23 <Eddi|zuHause> but for CETS this is practically impossible. 12:23:42 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:24:47 <Snail> thanks ;) 12:24:55 <Snail> yes, with 3-part vehicles it would be quite hard... 12:25:33 <Snail> I was thinking about a way to implement it with my mixed passenger/mail wagons, which are 2-part vehicles, but then spent my time on something else (TMWFTLB :p ) 12:26:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Snail: so, is using register 100h an option, with advanced calculations? 12:27:45 <Snail> hmmm 12:27:50 <Snail> not sure... 12:29:56 <Snail> brb (hopefully) 12:31:09 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:47:24 <planetmaker> MoonShine, if you have dep issues, you should not ask if someone has some, but you should quote your *excact* issue 13:21:53 <Belugas> hello 13:36:55 <fjb> Moin Belugas. 13:38:45 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:54:49 <Belugas> hello fjb 13:57:53 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@127-062-045-062.static.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:17 <planetmaker> oh, an fjb! :-) 14:03:33 <fjb> Does eGRVTS2 not have passenger carriages yet? 14:03:47 <Eddi|zuHause> last i heard it didn't 14:03:54 <fjb> Hm, haven't been here for a long time. 14:04:09 <fjb> Thanks Eddi|zuHause. 14:06:11 <planetmaker> I already wondered where you vanished to, fjb :-) Nice to see you again 14:07:09 <fjb> Have a lot of work and a girlfriend. ;-) 14:07:29 <peter1138> hmm 14:08:02 <peter1138> since i switched from vserver to lxc, my server gets really quite unhappy after a few weeks uptime :S 14:08:26 <peter1138> pretty sure ts3 server doesn't normally use 60% cpu 14:10:41 <fjb> What do you use to transport passengers in horse carriage times? 14:11:07 <planetmaker> horse carriages maybe? :-) 14:11:39 <fjb> Great idea! 14:11:47 <fjb> But which grf? 14:14:53 <Pinkbeast> EGRVTS, "Sailing Ships", UKRS2 14:17:17 <Pinkbeast> Also last I checked a lot of FISH diesel ships start artificially early which might or might not be something you can live with 14:17:29 <fjb> I don't think mixing egrvts and egrvts2 is a good idea. 14:17:42 <peter1138> weird 14:17:42 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-82.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:17:56 <peter1138> getting some kind of crossed line when trying to call out o_O 14:18:15 <Pinkbeast> fjb: It might be egrvts2. The one with all the horse vehicles, anyway 14:18:26 <peter1138> keep speaking to random people who are also trying to dail out 14:18:28 <peter1138> *dial 14:18:54 <fjb> egrvts2 has no horce carriages for pasengers yet. 14:19:12 <fjb> peter1138: That sounds really strange. 14:19:13 <Pinkbeast> Well, one of them does and I use that one 14:20:12 <fjb> Pinkbeast: egrvts (not egrvts2) has them. But it is incompatible with realistic acceleration. 14:20:35 <Pinkbeast> That is true, but you can toggle that in-game 14:21:04 <peter1138> fjb, yeah it is 14:22:36 <fjb> Pinkbeast: But you can not toggle it for only one vehicles set. 14:22:42 <Pinkbeast> I turn realistic acceleration on when the last horse-drawn vehicle is sold. The transition's odd, but I'm really just there to build railways anyway. 14:23:42 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 14:28:54 <Terkhen> IIRC the latest beta had fixed carriages and updated cargo support 14:39:31 <fjb> Terkhen: I have WIP2 from the threat at the forum. It does't show me passenger carriages in 1858. 14:41:06 <planetmaker> ah, I didn't know that egrvts2 didn't feature horse carriages yet 14:41:57 <fjb> Hm, me be I didn't download the latest version. 14:45:38 <fjb> Terkhen: Thank you, I didn't have the latest version. 14:54:38 <Terkhen> you are welcome, IIRC they called it nml version or something like that 15:07:01 <fjb> Yes. I thought it was the source code. But it is the latest version. My passengers are happy now. 15:13:13 <Terkhen> :) 15:42:05 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:45:20 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 15:47:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 15:56:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b0cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:19 <fjb> Quak frosch123. 16:10:44 <frosch123> moin fjb :) 16:12:13 *** NataS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:51 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:18:52 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:23:09 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 16:23:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:13 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 16:23:43 *** Snail [~snail@166.137.86.239] has joined #openttd 16:26:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:35:22 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:54:32 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:a4e1:d282:e03b:291a] has joined #openttd 16:54:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:56:33 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:57:01 *** Nat_aS [~Shep@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 17:00:30 <andythenorth> lo 17:11:45 <frosch123> hello andythesouth 17:17:57 <Snail> Hi frosch123 17:18:44 <frosch123> i snail :) 17:18:45 <frosch123> * 17:18:47 <frosch123> * 17:18:48 <frosch123> *hi 17:21:45 <Snail> I was wondering if we could get randomaction2 type84 supporting counting from the end of the consist towards the engine 17:22:16 <Snail> Like, any plans to implement it in a forthcoming ottd nightly or so? :) 17:23:38 <Yexo> Snail: you can already do that by reading var 5F via var 61 17:23:45 <Yexo> at least I think so 17:24:33 <Snail> Is var 5F supported by var61? 17:24:42 <Yexo> apparently not 17:24:43 <Yexo> sorry 17:26:09 <Snail> That's ok 17:26:50 <Snail> As I seemed to understand, it shouldn't be too much of a pain to add a new way of counting using bit4 or bit5 (which are now reserved) 17:29:43 <NGC3982> Evening, people. 17:31:40 <NGC3982> How quaint. 17:32:04 <NGC3982> Im trying to join my server, so i can set the max_join_time to work with my current 3G situation. 17:32:34 <NGC3982> But of course, that ends in a deadlock. 17:36:35 <frosch123> Yexo: hirundo composed a list of variables yesterday, which should learn about backwards stuff 17:37:05 <andythenorth> GS MP? 17:37:16 <frosch123> so early? :o 17:37:23 <andythenorth> kids will be asleep in 45 mins or so 17:37:37 <frosch123> you hope so? :o 17:37:40 <andythenorth> silicon valley in 2020? 17:37:45 <andythenorth> all fast stuff 17:37:52 <frosch123> if we start so early, sivy is an option 17:38:09 <andythenorth> and a not stupid plane speed :P 17:38:10 <Yexo> how long does it take? 17:38:21 <andythenorth> I screwed up some settings last night :P 17:38:30 <frosch123> Yexo: last time we needed 2.5 hours 17:38:36 <andythenorth> setting up a game is a lot of things to remember 17:38:49 <frosch123> question is whether we manage to update the nightly on ccop 17:38:53 <frosch123> planetmaker: around? 17:39:02 <andythenorth> FIRS with goods or food? 17:39:33 <andythenorth> or manufacturing supplies 17:39:53 <andythenorth> food might be fun 17:39:56 <Hirundo> frosch123: what list of variables? o_0 17:40:37 <andythenorth> with food we'll have to build a fishing harbourt :D 17:40:45 <andythenorth> which is....interesting 17:41:06 <frosch123> Hirundo: ok, maybe it was only ra84 and var 61 17:41:11 <frosch123> i thought it was more 17:41:45 <Hirundo> oh that 18:02:06 <andythenorth> Terkhen Zuu Rubidium V453000 Hirundo planetmaker -> Silicon Valley MP? in 30 mins or so? 18:02:14 <andythenorth> maybe Eddi|zuHause would join an MP game? 18:04:02 * Zuu is still boring and work on patches :-p 18:05:44 <Yexo> andythenorth: I'll join too 18:07:09 <Hirundo> andythenorth: Yes (assuming I can convince my eclipse to compile hello world beforehand) 18:10:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:55 <frosch123> ok, i'll prepare a silicon valley v1 game then 18:12:37 <frosch123> coop has weird scripts to restart ottd, which i don't trust using :) 18:15:07 *** KingPixaIII [~pixa@85.210.74.179] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:41 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.179] has joined #openttd 18:19:47 <frosch123> andythenorth: chemicals? 18:20:34 <andythenorth> frosch123: chemicals too easy 18:20:36 <andythenorth> try food :) 18:20:39 <andythenorth> food is...hard 18:20:49 <frosch123> chemicals again :p 18:20:52 <frosch123> timber? 18:20:55 <frosch123> too easy 18:20:57 <andythenorth> way too easy 18:21:05 <frosch123> chemicals again :p 18:21:05 <andythenorth> it's best when there are a large number of secondary types 18:21:07 <frosch123> chemicals again :p 18:21:15 <frosch123> metal? 18:21:15 <andythenorth> game definitely needs AV8 18:21:24 <frosch123> i have av8 with adjusted airport cost 18:21:27 <andythenorth> I realised how much I depend on planes to make supplies work :) 18:21:31 <andythenorth> did you adjust plane speed? 18:21:44 <frosch123> 1/2 18:21:46 <andythenorth> I don't know what Pikka designed it for, but it tells you in newgrf window :) 18:22:09 <andythenorth> what start year? 18:22:10 <frosch123> ok, i set it to 1/1 18:22:31 <frosch123> eng supplies? 18:22:37 <andythenorth> interesting 18:22:38 <andythenorth> hard 18:22:41 <andythenorth> could be fun 18:22:48 <andythenorth> do we have 'airports never expire' :P 18:22:53 <andythenorth> I like the small grass airport 18:23:06 <frosch123> eugh... some palette is broken 18:23:13 <andythenorth> FIRS 18:23:18 <andythenorth> flip it to windows 18:23:21 <andythenorth> do it in game is fine 18:23:32 <frosch123> ok 18:23:33 <andythenorth> nml and grfcodec disagree about palettes in my build :P 18:23:56 <andythenorth> hmm 18:24:03 <andythenorth> only three sources of engineering supplies 18:24:08 <andythenorth> and one of them is dumb :P 18:24:22 <frosch123> i set it to 4 industries 18:24:34 <andythenorth> so build some same type? 18:24:50 <frosch123> so, shall we go for eng supplies? 18:25:25 <andythenorth> works for me 18:25:29 <andythenorth> will be interesting 18:26:21 <andythenorth> is the start year late? 18:26:27 <andythenorth> 2010 or so? 18:26:41 <frosch123> yes 18:26:47 <andythenorth> awesome 18:26:57 <andythenorth> I am about to eat, but otherwise ready 18:27:14 <frosch123> server is running 18:27:16 <frosch123> paused 18:27:23 <frosch123> everyone can review settings :) 18:28:55 *** garogolun [~garogolun@82-169-232-187.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:29:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:57 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: zuu * r24518 /trunk/src/ (textbuf.cpp textbuf_type.h): -Codechange [FS#5203]: Refactor arrow key text edit movement code (sbr) 18:42:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: zuu * r24519 /trunk/src/ (textbuf.cpp textbuf_type.h): -Codechange [FS#5203]: Refactor character removal code of text edit 18:45:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: zuu * r24520 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp textbuf.cpp): -Feature [FS#5203]: Ctrl + Arrow keys to move entire words in text edit boxes (sbr) 18:47:14 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: zuu * r24521 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp textbuf.cpp textbuf_type.h): -Feature [FS#5203]: Ctrl + Backspace/Delete to remove characters up to next word beginning in text edit boxes 18:48:04 *** anderwin [54ca15bc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:48:13 <anderwin> what I do with chipp_v13_5_r22553 file? 18:48:29 <anderwin> chipp_v13_5_r22553.diff 18:49:28 <Zuu> Download the source code of OpenTTD, revision 22553 and then apply that file using the patch command. 18:49:48 <Zuu> After that you need to compile OpenTTD using a compiler 18:50:24 <anderwin> I try to install Chill's patchpack v14_5 but can't open the game when I have installed the files :( 18:51:48 <anderwin> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47622&p=1045886#p1045886 18:51:56 <Zuu> 1) Is there not a pre-compiled binary of it? 18:52:10 <anderwin> Check out the link I send you 18:52:21 <Zuu> 2) As it is not the official version of OpenTTD, its better to ask for help in the forum thread of the patch pack 18:52:25 <anderwin> I posted a new post there how I go step by step 18:53:34 <Zuu> Did you read section 4.1 in the readme? 18:54:43 <anderwin> Yeah, but I didn't understand it so much 18:54:53 <anderwin> because when I download openttd it download this files ? 18:55:14 <Zuu> It can be that your problem is related that the trunk version that the patch pack is based on have a different location for data files compared to recent OpenTTD versions. 18:55:47 <anderwin> Ah, I will try again but I did it once to install the gfx pack to the user folder at win 7 nothing different 18:56:29 <Zuu> Most noticable old versions had Documents\OpenTTD\data while newer versions use Documents\OpenTTD\baseset for base sets and Documents\OpenTTD\newgrf for newgrfs. 18:56:50 <Zuu> You could try to create Documents\OpenTTD\data and copy the contents from ..\baseset there. 18:57:01 <anderwin> Ah, I will try 18:57:40 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:57 <Zuu> If it solves your problem, please add the solution to the forum thread where you posted. 18:58:37 <anderwin> But the baseset is empty at the documents folder 18:59:06 <anderwin> Should I copy the files from the program files at baseset to the data folder I just made? 18:59:19 <Zuu> that works too 18:59:42 <Zuu> I was unaware that the installer put data files in the program folder as I never used the installer. 19:00:16 <Zuu> Having the data files in Documents\OpenTTD have the benefit that if you have 17 OpenTTD installations, all of them can use the same data files. 19:00:17 <anderwin> installer made data folder at the program file thats grf files insides there 19:01:54 <Zuu> It would also work to have a data folder in the program files folder for OpenTTD. Its just as I said above, if you want to install some other version of OpenTTD in addition to the patchpack version, it will find the data files in your documents folder. 19:02:19 <anderwin> k, I think I will try to uinstall and download not the installer 19:03:19 <anderwin> so download the zip and place it anywhere you want or should I put it in the document? 19:03:31 <Zuu> You can place it anywhere you want 19:04:02 <Zuu> I keep my installations in Documents\OpenTTD\Installations\<install name>, but it's up to you where you want to keep it. 19:04:23 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:04:35 <anderwin> I put it on D:openttd 19:04:38 <anderwin> D:\ 19:04:46 <Zuu> That is fine too. 19:04:56 <anderwin> press it now it want to download gfx 19:05:18 <anderwin> should I do that or wait to I get the others "downloads? 19:05:32 <Zuu> Yep, if you don't have any basesets it will let you download OpenGFX for you. 19:05:51 <Zuu> I'm quite sure the patchpack doesn't include the base sets. 19:06:08 <Zuu> The base sets is basically either TTD data files or open variants of them. 19:06:10 <anderwin> sould I add the patchpack before the gfx? 19:06:17 <anderwin> should* 19:06:23 <anderwin> before I open the openttd.exe 19:06:43 <Zuu> The patchback probably don't have the option to download the gfx for you as it is probably older than that feature. 19:07:11 <anderwin> k 19:07:18 <Zuu> But you can get OpenGFX by downloading it manually and put it in the data folder. 19:07:35 <Zuu> Or you get it via 1.2.2 but have to copy it from baseset to data. 19:07:51 <anderwin> so now I make a folder at document or openttd called data? 19:08:05 <Zuu> Yes 19:08:30 <anderwin> at openttd or documents folder called openttd? 19:08:32 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:08:44 <Zuu> At least I beleive that r22553 is old enough that it uses /data rather than /baseset and /newgrf 19:08:58 <anderwin> because the documents baseset is empty 19:09:33 <anderwin> I downloaded 1.2.2 19:09:54 <Zuu> Did you run it and let it download base sets? 19:10:05 <anderwin> Yeah 19:10:32 <Zuu> look in Documents\OpenTTD\content_download 19:10:50 <Hirundo> frosch123: Where can I get that FIRS version? 19:10:50 <anderwin> there is a folder call baseset 19:10:58 <Zuu> and inside it? 19:11:00 <anderwin> called OpenGFX-0.4.4 19:11:08 <Zuu> There you have it 19:11:28 <anderwin> what should I do with that? 19:11:31 <frosch123> Hirundo: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3221/firs-r2876M.zip 19:11:34 <anderwin> copy it to data folder? 19:11:59 <Zuu> Yes. Documents\OpenTTD\data or D:\OpenTTD\data 19:12:08 <anderwin> extracted or not? 19:12:15 <Zuu> No need to extract it 19:12:18 <anderwin> k 19:12:22 <anderwin> I will try now 19:12:23 <Zuu> OpenTTD can read tar files 19:12:36 <Hirundo> thanks 19:12:44 <Terkhen> good night 19:15:11 <anderwin> it's looks is worked 19:16:06 <anderwin> but I can't see some place I Can change the day time :S 19:17:04 <Zuu> I can't help you with that as that is probably part of one of the patches in that patch pack. 19:17:19 <anderwin> because when I open the game now I got: 19:17:20 <anderwin> OpenTTD ini: invalid value 'SHOW_TOWN_NAMES|SHOW_STATION_NAME|SHOW_SIGNS|FULL_ANIMATION|FULL_DETAIL|WAYPOINTS|SHOW_COMPETITOR_SIGNS'for'dosplay_opt' 19:17:35 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:18:08 <anderwin> so the cities have no name ^^. either my station 19:18:10 <Zuu> That is because your patchpack doesn't contain the SHOW_COMPETITOR_SIGNS feature. 19:18:50 <FLHerne> Perhaps you should remove openttd.cfg; it's probably trying to read settings that are in 1.2.2 but not Chill's pack ;-) 19:18:57 <Zuu> Press and hold the third button from the left in your main toolbar. 19:19:18 <Zuu> Yep, either clean your openttd.cfg or fix the problem. 19:19:33 *** cypher [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-208.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:19:37 <Zuu> You could close OpenTTD and then create an empty openttd.cfg file in your D:\OpenTTD folder. 19:19:42 *** cyph3r is now known as cypher 19:19:54 <Zuu> Then the patch pack will use its own config file even if you install other versions later. 19:22:01 <anderwin> I did make openttd.cfg in the openttd folder nothing error now 19:22:34 <anderwin> THAT WORKED 19:22:37 <anderwin> now I have names to :o 19:23:19 <anderwin> lol it can't find sound and music files now -.- 19:23:20 <Zuu> There is a setting to hide/show the names 19:23:36 <anderwin> I made the file and got no errors 19:24:01 <anderwin> but where I find the sound/music file and when I find them should I put them to data folder to? 19:24:04 <Zuu> Yep, just telling you that there are settings for it if you would like to hide them in the future. 19:24:22 <Zuu> go back to main menu and click on online content download button 19:24:39 <Zuu> There you can find OpenSFX (sound effects) and one or two music sets. 19:24:43 *** LordPixaII [~pixa@85.210.71.6] has joined #openttd 19:24:45 <anderwin> They are downloaded 19:25:00 <anderwin> But nothing in the game 19:25:05 <Zuu> Back in the game, you need to go to the sound button in the toolbar and turn up the volume. 19:26:04 <anderwin> nope 19:26:20 <anderwin> I needed to go to the download content folder and copy them to D:\ folder and now is work :D 19:26:34 <anderwin> now I just need to find the setting to change the day speed 19:27:59 <anderwin> thanks a lot Zuu you the man! 19:28:31 <Zuu> Now you know your task to tell the forum that you solved your problem and provide them with the solution. :-) 19:29:05 <anderwin> I will, I just need to check out I have everything and then I can post =) 19:30:15 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.74.179] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:55 *** anderwin [54ca15bc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:59:51 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 20:08:15 *** garogolun [~garogolun@82-169-232-187.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:09:48 *** garogolun [~garogolun@82-169-232-187.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:21:16 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:24 *** Snail [~snail@166.137.86.239] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 20:30:49 <Zuu> Oh, the goal progress in a separate panel is comming along. But currently I have screwed up some parameter so you can't resize it horizontally and it have decided a very narrow defalut size :-) 20:31:02 <Zuu> s/panel/column/ 20:32:38 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:53:59 <Wolf01> hello 20:58:33 <planetmaker> evening Wolf01 21:00:28 <frosch123> Hirundo: we won 21:00:32 <frosch123> one quarter later 21:00:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:05:10 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-170-205-142.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0/20120828083259]] 21:08:42 *** Bad_Brett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B0C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:13 <frosch123> night 21:32:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b0cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:58 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:06:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:06 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:13:20 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 22:13:47 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc2-cwma8-2-0-cust293.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:26:26 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:29:40 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 22:35:58 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:47:15 <Wolf01> 'night 22:47:20 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host218-143-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:27:39 *** ceemosp [50bb60d0@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:32:32 <ceemosp> hi,,anyone awake with some knowledge about WAS? 23:36:09 *** ceemosp [50bb60d0@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:43:45 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d66-183-125-133.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:52:41 *** garogolun [~garogolun@82-169-232-187.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving]