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09:37:16 <bolli> So: Passenger Carriage 1 and Passenger Carriage 2... 09:45:00 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 09:45:01 <NGC3982> I don't really know anything about that, but i do know that graphics can be changed with different number of wagons. 09:45:20 <NGC3982> Although, i do not know if it's simply random, or calculated by x amount of wagons. 09:45:43 <NGC3982> If the latter is true, you should be abled to also alter settings for different wagons. 09:45:48 <NGC3982> able* 09:48:38 <Eddi|zuHause> bolli: yes, with the cargo subtype callback 10:02:22 <bolli> thanks :) 10:36:43 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:37:46 <peter1138> __ln__, any tidbits of English for us to learn today? 10:59:43 <NGC3982> Hihi 10:59:46 <NGC3982> Tidbits.. 11:07:26 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-89.felk.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 11:10:29 <__ln__> Does 8 tidbits make a tidbyte? 11:18:28 <NGC3982> Tit-bits* 11:19:55 <V453000> I ALWAYS read it that way ^ 11:20:47 <TyrHeimdal> lol, I just read a funny story explaining why Hell is exothermic ^^ 11:21:28 <planetmaker> yes, hell of a girl. 11:22:36 <TyrHeimdal> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1191057/Hell%20is%20exothermic.jpg 11:22:39 <TyrHeimdal> close :P 11:23:49 <TyrHeimdal> I should say re-read, I saw it a few years back as well 11:24:02 <peter1138> Well, titbits _is_ correct as well. 11:25:28 <V453000> :D 11:25:48 <planetmaker> TyrHeimdal, and exactly for that text I wrote my answer ;-) It all boils down to that girl mentioned in the last paragraph ;-) 11:25:57 <TyrHeimdal> yeap! 11:26:48 <planetmaker> but linking to text as text instead of image is better readable... 11:26:49 <TyrHeimdal> hmmm, the baby has slept for almost 2.5 hours now... 11:27:01 <TyrHeimdal> planetmaker: I found the pic shared on FB 11:27:24 <TyrHeimdal> I would have shared the text if that was what I found 11:27:31 <planetmaker> hell exotherm gives you zillions copies of that text ;-) 11:27:40 <TyrHeimdal> probably 11:27:56 <TyrHeimdal> but that would have ment a search...and you all know how good I am at searching :P 11:28:37 <peter1138> __ln__, your turn? 11:29:22 <__ln__> I wasn't expecting the British inquisition. 11:29:38 <TyrHeimdal> nah, one would only expect the spanish one 11:29:48 <TyrHeimdal> they sent warnings by letter 2 weeks in advance 11:30:19 * planetmaker brings a torch. Where's the pyre? 11:30:57 <planetmaker> or stake? dunno which is the right word. Or both. 11:31:31 <TyrHeimdal> stake's in the pyre...isn't it? 11:31:32 <peter1138> That depends on what you wanted to do. 11:32:08 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:15 <planetmaker> burn! burn! burn! ;-) 11:32:37 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:32:58 <TyrHeimdal> I should go see if the kid is still alive... but I'm afraid I'll wake her if I go to check 11:33:03 <TyrHeimdal> if she's sleeping 11:33:25 <planetmaker> kids sleep tight 11:33:51 <TyrHeimdal> yeah, but it's usually just a 30-60 minute nap at this hour 11:33:58 <TyrHeimdal> hitting 2.5 hours now ^^ 11:35:06 <planetmaker> then wake them up - unless *you* don't want to sleep the next night ;-) 11:35:39 <TyrHeimdal> hehe, nah, the mom takes the night shift. She's got the dairy products after all 11:35:42 <TyrHeimdal> ^^ 11:35:43 <planetmaker> (however nice the current tranquility may be) 11:38:53 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: .] 11:45:03 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:59 <TyrHeimdal> Sleeping like a...well...baby! 11:53:06 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has joined #openttd 12:03:40 <peter1138> What, awake every 15 minutes and crying? 12:09:00 <TyrHeimdal> who is? 12:17:17 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:59 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:09 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@eduroam-89.felk.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:23:43 <Eddi|zuHause> "everybody who says he's sleeping like a baby, never had a baby" 12:37:57 <Noldo> babies do sleep like babies and there is no problem with that 12:38:07 <Noldo> the thing is that they wake up like babies too 12:41:22 <planetmaker> how do babies wake up? In my experience like everyone else... it's just when they are awake they'll make sure you are awake, too. At least very soon 12:41:36 <Noldo> often 12:46:18 * NGC3982 gets a headache just thinking about it. 13:37:49 *** argoneus [~argoneus@smtp.gvp.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:43 <Kitty> 26 13:52:33 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-125-10-83.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:25:51 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:36:33 *** dada__ [~dada_@77.250.97.191] has quit [Quit: goodbyte] 14:49:05 <NGC3982> 42? 14:52:07 <peter1138> 34 14:54:41 <planetmaker> i 14:55:50 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:04 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:59:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:00:21 <andythenorth> would this truck autorefit? :P 15:00:21 <andythenorth> http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/super-kiwi-kenworth-logging-lorry-from-ian-and-rodders-on-biglorryblog 15:00:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:51 <V453000> andythenorth: not in my game :p 15:05:33 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:07:17 <supermop> autorefit from pine to spruce maybe? 15:08:59 <andythenorth> :P 15:09:01 <andythenorth> good answer 15:10:02 <supermop> new firs economy: species specific logging 15:11:04 *** keoz [~keikoz@79.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:10 <supermop> 'ooh sorry this mill only makes birch core plywood, not poplar' 15:11:30 <planetmaker> andythenorth, looking at that truck, it could basically auto-refit to wood, steel, machine parts and wind turbines 15:12:06 <andythenorth> supermop: new newgrf: logging 15:12:14 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:12:27 <supermop> i think a trailer that size full of steel would break 15:13:20 <planetmaker> who says that it's loaded equally to the brim? 15:13:27 <planetmaker> the definition of full is different 15:14:10 <supermop> it doesn't have a flat bed to keep things from falling through 15:15:29 <planetmaker> that's why it transports steel rails. They don't fall through 15:15:39 <Belugas> hello 15:16:23 <supermop> a logging grf would be fun 15:16:32 <Belugas> we had a little quake last night. at 12:ish 15:16:33 <supermop> was thinking about it last night 15:16:36 <supermop> cool 15:16:41 <supermop> how big? 15:16:43 <Belugas> was kinda frightening 15:16:45 <Belugas> 4.5 15:16:53 <supermop> wouldn't call that little 15:16:59 <supermop> depending on where you live 15:17:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i vaguely remember steel rails being transported on trains, because they come in lengths like 100-200m 15:17:12 <Belugas> 25 kms from center 15:17:19 * planetmaker checks neic 15:18:02 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a quake around here in the 90's 15:18:03 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:18:08 <Belugas> i was doing some sdk-ndk install at the time. 15:18:19 <Eddi|zuHause> but i didn't notice anything 15:18:36 <Eddi|zuHause> just the next day at school everybody went crazy about it 15:18:41 <planetmaker> nice Belugas :-) 15:19:18 <planetmaker> I find earthquakes kinda exciting :D 15:20:14 <planetmaker> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000d3l5#summary <-- "your" quake 15:20:28 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:20:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AF58.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:21:41 <Belugas> 3.9? well.. looks like somebody have not done homework at tv ;) 15:21:41 <supermop> in a logging grf you could have managed forests of planted pines and logging camps clear cutting old growth map trees 15:22:02 <planetmaker> what did they say in TV, Belugas ? 15:22:22 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-193-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 15:22:24 <planetmaker> mind that +- 0.2 is nothing to wonder about much 15:22:42 <supermop> isn't it a log scale? 15:22:44 <andythenorth> supermop: tree length timber, thinning, pulp wood 15:22:54 <supermop> seems like .1 on the scale would be a lot 15:22:57 <andythenorth> gravel from borrow pits for roads 15:23:00 <andythenorth> sand for roads 15:23:02 <andythenorth> fuel 15:23:03 <andythenorth> seeds 15:23:04 <Belugas> they said 4.5, this morning. On papers, they said between 3.9 and 4.5 15:23:22 <andythenorth> sawmill, papermill, logging camp, landing 15:23:46 <Eddi|zuHause> well "our" quake was a mine collapse, not a tectonic event, though 15:23:48 <planetmaker> it's a log scale. But given amount of data, model accuracies etc, +- 0.2 soonish after a quake is good 15:23:53 <supermop> maybe something between the two, like logging in a national forest, cuts natural trees at a controlled sustainable rate 15:24:06 <Belugas> was impressive, nonetheless. We had one a few years ago, we were in a restaurant. People were almost under their tables :) 15:24:22 <supermop> needs farm field behavior 15:24:23 <planetmaker> not a bad choice to do in a quake :-) 15:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i think a better choice would be out of the dooor 15:28:09 <supermop> why the different climates? shouldn't climate be done via newgrf? 15:29:22 <supermop> can newgrf add new climates rather than modifying existing? 15:30:01 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, out of the door is the worst choice during a quake 15:30:18 <planetmaker> as most people die in quakes due to pieces falling off buildings onto them in the streets 15:30:37 <planetmaker> supermop, no, they can't 15:30:37 <supermop> planetmaker: but you need to take a video of the shaking buildings to put on youtube to get lots of views! 15:30:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, probably depends on the strength of the quake 15:30:52 <Eddi|zuHause> but the stronger the quake, the less likely a table is going to help you 15:31:14 <planetmaker> stand *in* a door is also good 15:31:44 <planetmaker> and yes, Eddi|zuHause, under tables or doors is the general advise given 15:32:09 <planetmaker> I've been through the drills. And it makes sense when you look at typical damages in EQs 15:32:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i'll try to remember that in the next quake :p 15:33:20 <planetmaker> if the building collapses, it'll hit you inside or outside. If you're outside another collapsing building will also get you 15:33:41 <planetmaker> and typically they don't last long enough so that you can get away from a building in a significant manner 15:33:42 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on how far you can get away from any buildings 15:34:40 <planetmaker> typical duration is of the order of a minute 15:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it might be a series of quakes, and the first one "just" destabilises the building, one of the following quakes makes it collapse 15:35:13 <Eddi|zuHause> you may wonder how much you can do in one minute if adrenaline is flowing :p 15:36:02 <planetmaker> and join the panic? 15:37:57 <planetmaker> generally you have sufficient time after a quake to evacuate the building when the immediate danger is gone 15:37:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:38:12 <planetmaker> aftershocks are common. But they are distinct events. So you have time to evacuate in good order 15:43:02 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:54:33 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 15:57:39 <peter1138> I remember the quake we had here. 15:59:15 <peter1138> Hmm, 10 years ago, heh. 15:59:54 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:10 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:19:07 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:19:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:19:39 <Alberth> moin 16:20:09 <planetmaker> salut Alberth 16:24:27 <Alberth> let's do a bit of index generating :) 16:26:31 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 16:27:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:28:23 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8dff:fb7c:567a:8c6e] has joined #openttd 16:28:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:32:48 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.88.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:50 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:50 *** Zeknurn` is now known as Zeknurn 16:33:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:34:00 <Alberth> hi hi 16:46:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 16:46:28 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:49:56 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-170-45.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:56 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:24 <LordAro> hi alls 16:51:36 <planetmaker> hi lobster 16:51:41 <planetmaker> hm... LordAro ;-) 16:51:52 <lobster> hurrrrrrrr 16:52:05 <LordAro> autocomplete fail :P 16:52:30 <LordAro> hi mr planet 16:53:37 <Alberth> evenink 16:56:22 <LordAro> hi Alberth 16:57:11 *** bolli [~Sam@222.160.17.46.bridgep.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:01 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.115.80.43] has joined #openttd 17:14:09 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus] 17:22:44 *** dada__ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:22:44 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:27:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 17:29:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B5A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:33:41 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:45 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 17:37:08 <andythenorth> does tt-forums eat other people's login cookie every hour or so? 17:37:18 <andythenorth> or do I need to have a stern word with my browser? 17:38:21 <Alberth> it works for me 17:38:34 <Alberth> maybe you change IP? 17:39:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009b2e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:34 <Alberth> ie I usually have such problems when accessing the forums from 2 computers without logging out each time 17:39:43 <Alberth> moin frosch 17:40:00 <frosch123> hai albert :) 17:40:30 *** tycoondemon [tycoondemo@524B5F54.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:35 <andythenorth> I do change IP yes 17:40:53 <andythenorth> I thought it was just Safari being a crap browser 17:41:13 <Alberth> nah, the forums are 'smart' :p 17:41:54 <frosch123> andy was banned from tt-forums? 17:43:44 <Alberth> (07:47:06 PM) andythenorth: does tt-forums eat other people's login cookie every hour or so? 17:45:07 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/firs_report/ <-- andy, something to read in the meantime :p 17:45:13 <andythenorth> woah 17:45:26 * andythenorth feels the need to style that :P 17:45:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24583 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2012-10-10 17:45:30 UTC) 17:45:42 <andythenorth> where's the source? :P 17:45:43 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:44 <DorpsGek> finnish - 2 changes by jpx_ 17:45:45 <DorpsGek> german - 2 changes by planetmaker 17:45:46 <DorpsGek> italian - 2 changes by lorenzodv 17:45:47 <DorpsGek> russian - 2 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:45:48 <DorpsGek> spanish - 2 changes by Terkhen 17:52:29 <Alberth> andythenorth: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/make-nml-common/repository/changes/nml_langcheck.py 17:53:26 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> does tt-forums eat other people's login cookie every hour or so? <-- i loose mine every few days 17:54:07 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@dslb-088-072-101-039.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:06 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but make sure you didn't set "private browsing" or something, and you checked "keep my login" 17:55:27 <fonsinchen> TrueBrain: The windows builds of cargodist seem to have some trouble finding the last SVN version. 17:55:46 <fonsinchen> see http://farm.openttd.org/browse/OTTD3PT-CD-W64BIT-51 17:55:49 <fonsinchen> for example 17:56:15 <fonsinchen> that '&' in my rev.cpp is right after the SVN version which must have been retrieved by some other script 17:56:47 <fonsinchen> if the version number is missing this is interpreted as "address of" and thus the compile error. 17:59:15 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-62-174.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:00:20 <fonsinchen> Also there is this warning in road_cmd.cpp, which stems from trunk 18:00:24 <fonsinchen> ..\src\road_cmd.cpp(798): warning C4800: 'RoadBits' : forcing value to bool 'true' or 'false' (performance warning) [C:\bamboo-agent-home\xml-data\build-dir\OTTD-NIGHTLY-W32BIT\projects\openttd_vs100.vcxproj] 18:00:38 <fonsinchen> I guess we can make that an '&&' indeed. 18:00:48 <supermop> does mail exist under Firs? 18:03:04 <FLHerne> Yes 18:03:51 <supermop> couldn't remember 18:04:14 <supermop> could you load a newgrf after firs that adds one more industry but no new cargoes? 18:04:24 <supermop> or are all the industry slots taken? 18:05:13 <Belugas> iirc, there should be 64 available 18:05:41 <FLHerne> supermop: FIRS leaves one spare, IIRC 18:05:49 <supermop> I see... 18:05:57 <FLHerne> andythenorth would be the person to ask though ;-) 18:06:11 <FLHerne> I think that was in case of regearing or whatever 18:06:17 <supermop> Hahah, i was expecting he would have chimed in 18:06:23 <supermop> anyway 18:06:33 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08344c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:08 <supermop> would it be more or less fun to add a modern fulfillment center? a simple industry that accepts goods and produces mail 18:07:56 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-170-45.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:50 <supermop> that is, like an amazon warehouse, where they receive products from the manufacturer, then send them out as express parcels via post, fedex, or similar 18:10:03 <supermop> i assume mail pays more highly given a timely delivery than goods, but i am not sure. If so, it could be interesting from a gameplay/fun perspective 18:11:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:11:24 <Wolf01> evenink 18:11:44 <supermop> does that sound fun? 18:11:49 <supermop> or tedious? 18:12:47 <Wolf01> if you are talking about the cancellation of baumgartner jump, it's tedious 18:17:14 <andythenorth> my icon designer is called baumgartner 18:17:18 <andythenorth> wonder if he's related :P 18:18:04 <Prof_Frink> Does he have a problem with wind? 18:18:33 <andythenorth> supermop: this is reasonably accurate for FIRS: http://www.tt-foundry.com/sets/FIRS/schema/economies 18:18:37 <andythenorth> not 100%, but close enough 18:21:15 <supermop> does that sound fun andy? or would a 2x2 house on the edge of town be better 18:21:42 <andythenorth> supermop: only one way to find out....test it 18:21:52 <andythenorth> "industries as houses" has issues 18:21:57 <andythenorth> better to just do industry 18:22:12 <supermop> house would b visually smaller and have no correlation between goods delivered and mail produced - might not be able to fill a mail truck quick enough. 18:22:26 <andythenorth> also doesn't appear on map 18:22:33 <andythenorth> and has different rules for closure, opening etc 18:22:38 <supermop> an industry that deals only in goods and mail is pretty close to a house already though 18:22:44 <Alberth> fonsinchen: != 0 seems a better solution to me 18:22:56 <andythenorth> it doesn't add much to gameplay no, it's just might be interesting to you 18:23:02 <supermop> you could find one in every town like a stadium though 18:23:12 <supermop> which might be too many 18:23:27 <andythenorth> can limit the number on the map 18:23:31 <andythenorth> can check the number of towns too 18:23:43 <supermop> does the default steel mill produce passengers, or accept passengers? 18:23:54 <andythenorth> think it accepts on a couple of tiles 18:24:39 <supermop> ah 18:25:13 <supermop> if it was the other way around one could make it so that the warehouse was always producing some trickle of mail 18:36:16 <fonsinchen> && checks both for != 0; & does the potentially expensive bit operation and then still one check for != 0 ... 18:36:32 <fonsinchen> but probably it doesn't matter that much 18:37:09 <fonsinchen> actually if the first one is 0, then && won't even consider the second one ... 18:37:56 <Alberth> wouldn't && scream it needs a boolean too? 18:38:19 <fonsinchen> I don't actually know how that windows compiler got the idea to scream there ... 18:38:36 <Alberth> & returns an int 18:39:11 <fonsinchen> but we're implicitly casting int to bool all over the place, aren't we? 18:39:38 <Alberth> not really, the coding style says to explicitly compare 18:40:06 <fonsinchen> Still, I have seen a few of those ... 18:40:26 <Alberth> I am not surprised :) 18:40:54 <Eddi|zuHause> <supermop> could you load a newgrf after firs that adds one more industry but no new cargoes? <-- FIRS does not use all industry slots by far, so you can add a great deal afterwards. there is however only one cargo slot free 18:41:32 <andythenorth> FIRS will never use 64 industry slots 18:41:37 <andythenorth> already, it has 'enough' 18:41:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i agree 18:42:16 <Eddi|zuHause> there are some more or less nasty side effects with too many industry types. especially on smaller maps 18:42:22 <andythenorth> 'some' 18:42:22 <andythenorth> :P 18:42:38 <andythenorth> there are more industry types than industry instances in the map gen placement code :P 18:42:46 <andythenorth> but that is something that should be fixed :P 18:42:49 <fonsinchen> I can't find an example right now, though. 18:43:00 <fonsinchen> Maybe they're not that frequent after all. 18:43:16 *** bolli [~Sam@179.209.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:43 <Eddi|zuHause> fonsinchen: there's no guarantee that existing code adheres to the coding style :p 18:45:16 <fonsinchen> Well, anyway: The compiler says 'performance warning', so I was thinking in that direction. 18:45:25 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8dff:fb7c:567a:8c6e] has joined #openttd 18:45:26 *** glx is now known as Guest1257 18:45:26 *** glx_ is now known as glx 18:52:00 *** Guest1257 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8dff:fb7c:567a:8c6e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 19:07:45 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:11:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r24584 /trunk/src/script/api (4 files) (2012-10-10 19:11:22 UTC) 19:11:29 <DorpsGek> -Doc: [Script] Improve API documentation. 19:14:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009b2e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:22 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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