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00:00:18 *** shaunof99 [shaunof99@24-117-233-31.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 00:05:33 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:22:46 <shaunof99> anyone anyone on the public server? 00:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong chat 00:28:51 <shaunof99> soory 00:28:55 <shaunof99> sorry* 00:30:26 *** shaunof99 [shaunof99@24-117-233-31.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [] 00:46:23 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:47:39 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: would your code work for trams too 00:47:40 <supermop> ? 00:47:57 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: yeah 00:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> just pull it, and replece every occurance of "VEH_TRAIN" by "VEH_ROAD" or so 00:49:06 <Eddi|zuHause> then add or remove properties as you wish 00:49:06 <supermop> so if _ and | are longer than / and \, what length are the intermediate angles? 00:49:25 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: use the existing template graphics 01:18:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28:01 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:33:20 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.29.222.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 01:50:17 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.181.230.7] has quit [Quit: I'm a happy AdiIRC user! 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09:07:23 <maddy_> for example? 09:08:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.175.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16:23 <roboboy> I am storing some strings that will be placed as text on labels in Windows and the Windows API treats & specially to denote the keyboard shortcut for that control, so would it be bad to store & as && in the string? 09:24:35 <planetmaker> roboboy, that depends on how those strings are treated internally, whether you work cross-platform 09:24:45 <planetmaker> generally that does not sound like a good idea 09:25:24 <planetmaker> if working cross-platform, I'd rather I'd try introduce pragmas which are replaced by OS-specific stuff then and keep OS-specific stuff out of strings 09:25:45 <planetmaker> but this got nothing to do with openttd, GS or NewGRFs ,or? 09:25:51 <roboboy> ok, so I should do it in code pending further investigation as I am using .Net 09:26:46 <roboboy> This channel usually has stuff other than OpenTTD and I have seen general programmin discusion in here before. I shall not ask OT stuff again 09:27:38 <planetmaker> it's alright when all quiet, I guess. But context makes a difference for an answer 09:29:33 <planetmaker> where off-topic reminds me... I wanted to thank __ln__ for the metorite movie yesterday :D 09:42:32 <__ln__> you're welcome 09:43:16 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 09:47:06 *** fjb is now known as Guest5408 09:47:08 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:50:43 <maddy_> roboboy: I think generally it is best to keep database strings as "plain text" so they are more generic, and then handle escaping in code before displaying them 09:51:20 <maddy_> I guess either way work, as long as you are consistent, and don't end up with 2 mixed practices 09:53:58 *** Guest5408 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54:02 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.112.64] has joined #openttd 10:02:16 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 10:07:46 *** Devroush2 [~dennis@dd5765bac.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:11:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:13:51 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15:31 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 10:17:51 *** _2rB [~IRC@46.228.54.111] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 10:17:52 *** Twofish [~IRC@46.228.54.111] has joined #openttd 10:21:17 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:26:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:39:52 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:41:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.175.254] has joined #openttd 10:42:37 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:22 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:01:55 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@72.52.91.30] has joined #openttd 11:11:31 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:12:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:39 <supermop> hi 11:33:22 <maddy_> hi 11:45:25 <supermop> whats going on? 11:53:11 <maddy_> not much, at work 11:59:58 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@1RHAAC96R.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:05 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 12:16:00 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:19:07 *** Haube [~michi@37-4-204-175-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 12:37:36 <peter1138> Ok 12:37:57 <peter1138> Doing hg update, it popped up gvimdiff to get a merge. 12:38:01 <peter1138> What do I do? :S 12:39:32 <planetmaker> edit files such that the merge is ok? 12:39:58 <planetmaker> you likely had a modified state of the repo. And it tries to merge your modifications with the new revision 12:40:17 <planetmaker> if you want to throw away your edits, then hg up -C -rXXX 12:40:35 <peter1138> Yes, I know why, but it's not clear what to do, like save or whatever. 12:40:47 <planetmaker> depends on what you want 12:41:00 <planetmaker> so you're asking about introduction to gvimdiff? 12:41:06 <peter1138> Yup 12:41:18 <planetmaker> I don't like it either :P 12:41:42 <planetmaker> but the usual vi shortcuts work 12:41:56 <planetmaker> but I don't know how to switch windows 12:42:09 <peter1138> It's gvimdiff so I can cheat and use the mouse :) 12:43:51 <planetmaker> for the future, you might want to edit your ~/.hgrc and add in the [ui] section like 12:43:53 <planetmaker> merge = kdiff3 12:43:59 <planetmaker> if you prefer kdiff3 12:44:16 <planetmaker> I find that much easier to use 12:48:23 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@13-17-191-195.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:50 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 13:00:01 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.3.197] has joined #openttd 14:34:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:07 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:51:43 <peter1138> I maded a patch! 14:51:49 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/fixellipsis.diff 14:52:23 <peter1138> Bit late for 1.4 eh 15:03:31 <LordAro> emergency hotfix! 15:10:21 <Xaroth|Work> oh boy 15:15:29 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:34 *** luizrpgluiz [~oftc-webi@187.35.20.219] has joined #openttd 15:16:59 *** luizrpgluiz [~oftc-webi@187.35.20.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:26 <__ln__> http://imgur.com/a/GRIzy 15:39:55 <Xaroth|Work> heh 15:40:04 <Xaroth|Work> i've seen that link fly by a few times today 15:40:07 <planetmaker> hm, nice to see issues dealt with 15:40:22 <planetmaker> the issue has been edited / partially removed meanwhile, though 16:02:23 *** Sacro [~ben@000127ee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:43 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:05 *** ZirconiumX [~matthew@cpc66203-derb15-2-0-cust161.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:11:46 <ZirconiumX> Hello everyone. Any Linux gurus around? 16:12:05 <ZirconiumX> I can't play any MIDI music on 1.4.0 16:12:46 <ZirconiumX> I've fluidsynth set up, and have tested it to make sure it plays music 16:14:25 <ZirconiumX> I do get the vehicle sounds though, so it isn't like fluidsynth is hogging alsa. 16:14:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.112.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:44 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.3.197] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:35:19 * ZirconiumX clears throat 16:36:03 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:44:07 <peter1138> Is ottd hogging alsa? heh 16:44:25 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 16:44:45 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:56 <ZirconiumX> Seems not 16:46:17 <ZirconiumX> Nope. I can play music using fluidsynth and hear vehicle sounds from OpenTTD 16:52:37 *** M3Henry [~Thunderbi@152.78.171.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:55 <peter1138> Hmm, works for me. 16:55:18 <ZirconiumX> You using fluidsynth or timidity? 16:56:52 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.112.64] has joined #openttd 16:57:29 <peter1138> Either. 16:57:43 <ZirconiumX> Hrm. 16:57:57 <peter1138> Playing via pmidi, with ALSA_OUTPUT_PORTS set beforehand. 16:58:42 <ZirconiumX> Portmidi. Hmmm 16:59:18 <ZirconiumX> What could be different between our systems? I'm using Arch Linux. 17:01:45 <ZirconiumX> So http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#There_is_no_sound_or_no_music_on_Linux works for you? 17:02:29 <ZirconiumX> Don't have a emu10k sound card 17:03:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:09:32 <ZirconiumX> 3 years later - $ ALSA_OUTPUT_PORTS=128:0 openttd -m extmidi:cmd=aplaymidi 17:09:54 <ZirconiumX> Now I have an organ playing continuously in the background, but at least I have music 17:14:34 <ZirconiumX> After installing pmidi, I have something that works. 17:14:54 <ZirconiumX> Still, a workaround like that indicates a bug or two. 17:16:29 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3DF9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:17:27 <peter1138> Workaround? How was it set up before? 17:18:14 <ZirconiumX> I was just using the default OpenTTD stuff, which appears to be broken on Linux (but works on windows...) 17:19:03 <ZirconiumX> I had to manually perform $ ALSA_OUTPUT_PORTS=128:0 openttd -m extmidi:cmd=pmidi 17:19:21 <peter1138> If you don't specify anything then it tries to use timidity. 17:20:03 <ZirconiumX> That makes sense 17:20:13 <ZirconiumX> Since I am using fluidsynth, it failed 17:20:27 <peter1138> If you don't have timidity installed, it wouldn't work. 17:21:16 <ZirconiumX> If only I considered my C++ skills up to scratch 17:21:23 <ZirconiumX> Then I'd fix that myself. 17:21:27 <peter1138> Fix what? 17:21:51 <peter1138> It's all configurable, but the default command is just "timidity" if none is specified. 17:22:50 <ZirconiumX> maybe we could add that to openttd.cfg instead of having to specify it on the command line (which means PCManFM will launch OpenTTD without any MIDI support) 17:23:01 <peter1138> You can add it to openttd.cfg 17:23:18 <ZirconiumX> musicdriver 17:23:18 <peter1138> musicdriver = "extmidi:cmd=blah" 17:23:52 <peter1138> No idea what PCManFM is. 17:24:53 <ZirconiumX> The file manager for LXDE 17:27:45 <peter1138> People launch programs from a file manager now? 17:27:47 <peter1138> Hmm. 17:27:59 <ZirconiumX> *cough* Ubuntu *cough* 17:28:46 <peter1138> There are menus and things... 17:29:03 <ZirconiumX> I take it you don't use Unity, then... 17:29:16 <peter1138> I don't use Ubuntu. 17:29:29 <peter1138> But Unity uses the .desktop files, no? 17:29:41 <ZirconiumX> Think so. Not sure. 17:32:12 <ZirconiumX> Is there any way to tell OpenTTD to run a command on startup? 17:34:02 <planetmaker> ZirconiumX, but even if you launch from file manager - editing the openttd.cfg gives the appropriate effect? 17:34:16 <ZirconiumX> Nope. 17:34:25 <planetmaker> ehm? 17:34:42 <ZirconiumX> It runs pmidi without telling ALSA where to put the MIDI 17:34:42 <planetmaker> you edited the correct cfg file then? 17:35:16 <ZirconiumX> $ ALSA_OUTPUT_PORTS=128:0 openttd -m extmidi:cmd=pmidi <-- works fine 17:35:44 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 17:36:15 <ZirconiumX> Using the musicdriver setting in openttd.cfg removes the -m bit, but doesn't change the ALSA_OUT_PORTS=128:0 part. 17:36:33 <ZirconiumX> (or otherwise I haven't found out how to add the ALSA_OUT_PORTS bit) 17:36:43 <peter1138> Yeah, arguments never got added to extmidi so you can't do cmd=pmidi -p 128:0 17:37:26 <ZirconiumX> That sucks. 17:37:54 <glx> then just run a .sh instead the exe 17:38:00 <peter1138> Yup, make a wrapper script. 17:38:30 <glx> like .bat on msdos/windows in the old time 17:41:50 <ZirconiumX> Looks like I can't write shell scripts very well... 17:43:24 <planetmaker> #!/bin/bash 17:43:39 <planetmaker> openttd parameters you need to put 17:43:42 <planetmaker> done 17:43:51 <planetmaker> (done is not part of script anymore) 17:44:30 <ZirconiumX> Well, having realised my mistake , it vaguely works 17:45:04 <ZirconiumX> I'm being deafened by the hanging pmidi processes having not done noteoffs at kill time 17:45:07 <ZirconiumX> But it works 17:45:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26444 /trunk/src/lang (4 files) (2014-04-04 17:45:23 UTC) 17:45:34 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:35 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 5 changes by siu238X, xiangyigao 17:45:36 <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 2 changes by siu238X 17:45:37 <DorpsGek> czech - 1 changes by marek995 17:45:38 <DorpsGek> german - 1 changes by Jogio 17:45:39 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013506.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:47:36 <ZirconiumX> Well, thank you all very much! 17:54:26 <LordAro> good lord, it's a ZirconiumX 17:54:44 <ZirconiumX> It's the Lord himself 17:54:45 <peter1138> ZirconiumX, use aplaymidi then, I think that does note offs. 17:55:03 <peter1138> Not sure why pmidi doesn't, or why the midi files don't have them at the end. 17:55:36 <LordAro> i've had issues getting ottd to play midi music in the past 17:55:45 <LordAro> can't remember if i ever resolved them 17:56:18 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@179.186.16.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:57:21 <ZirconiumX> pmidi will play the song regardless of the stop button. 17:57:48 <ZirconiumX> aplaymidi will stop playing any more notes after the stop button. No noteoffs though 17:59:13 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.112.64] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:59:20 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 17:59:43 <planetmaker> quak :) 17:59:56 <frosch123> hola 18:00:05 <ZirconiumX> planetmaker is now a duck, apparently. 18:00:46 <LordAro> quak frosch123 18:01:08 <ZirconiumX> LordAro too?! 18:01:11 <mg_> hi. i downloaded 32bit z-base graphics. it looks good but i can't find any newgrf to replace default ground tiles (green terrain + trees). is there some magic newgrf that i'm missing? 18:01:30 <LordAro> ZirconiumX, heh, you must be new here :p 18:01:36 <planetmaker> yeah :P 18:01:49 <ZirconiumX> I'm not new, I just haven't been here in 3 odd years. 18:01:55 <planetmaker> mg_, you mean 32bpp terrain NewGRFs to replace zBase' terrain tiles? 18:01:59 <LordAro> mg_, zbase should do that magically 18:02:09 <LordAro> mg_, example screenshot? 18:02:21 <planetmaker> if you have 8bpp terrain tiles, then you use a NewGRF which replaces ground tiles 18:02:32 <planetmaker> or you haven't yet activated zBase :) 18:02:35 <mg_> i mean, i have zBase graphics set 18:02:44 <planetmaker> activated in game options? 18:02:51 <mg_> buildings seem fine 18:02:52 <mg_> yes 18:03:02 <mg_> coal mines, power stations etc are ok 18:03:12 <mg_> but "grass" is not, and trees 18:03:22 <planetmaker> and no NewGRFs active? (screenshot using ctrl+s, upload to imagebin.com) 18:03:31 <ZirconiumX> are giant alien spaceships 18:03:47 <ZirconiumX> Dammit planetmaker, you ninja'd me. 18:03:49 <mg_> about 30 newgrfs active 18:04:03 <planetmaker> zBase provides 32bpp graphics for all tiles. So if you have no 32bpp for some, that's one of your NewGRFs 18:04:38 <mg_> planetmaker: i see, so i will try again with disabled newgrfs 18:05:14 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: it's weird how they're all like "it's a different language, copyright doesn't apply"... at least german copyright explicitly mentions "translating to other languages" as being covered 18:05:54 <mg_> planetmaker: it works now :P 18:06:32 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I'm sure it's under most legislations. It's still a derivative after all 18:06:37 <mg_> thanks 18:06:43 <planetmaker> you're welcome 18:08:24 <Eddi|zuHause> people having strong opinions on things they don't fully understand is one of the most dangerous things in this world 18:08:57 <planetmaker> yeah 18:09:07 <NGC3982> It's very human, though. 18:09:23 <ZirconiumX> Eddi|zuHause - sadly that's part of human nature 18:09:25 <planetmaker> quite 18:20:05 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:26:18 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.58.54.248] has joined #openttd 18:26:32 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 18:31:32 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.16.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:32 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 18:36:42 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 18:42:05 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 18:42:58 <heffer> planetmaker: opengfx 0.5.0 somehow broke the make check target 18:43:50 <heffer> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/91769/37012139/ 18:46:53 <maddy_> if there is one thing I love about openttd is that it almost never crashes (not even with nightly builds) 18:47:04 <ZirconiumX> "almost never" 18:47:14 <glx> <@planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I'm sure it's under most legislations. It's still a derivative after all <-- even if not derivative, there's at least copyright on the translator work usually (plus the original rights holder who allowed the translation) 18:47:32 <maddy_> ZirconiumX: at least not for me :) 18:47:56 <ZirconiumX> Mainline OpenTTD is very stable. I've only ever found one bug in it, which was fixed quickly 18:51:25 <heffer> maddy_: I maintain openttd for more than 5 years in Fedora now. I had my fair share of bugreports including nasty coredumps and backtraces :) 18:51:50 <heffer> but what I always found amazing was that I came here to this channel and the guys usually had stuff fixed in less than an hour 18:52:11 <maddy_> yeah the devs are really awesome 18:53:04 <glx> we hate crashes 18:53:19 <heffer> i always drop very cryptic backtraces in here and they are always like "yeah, looks like that happens when 3 vehicles drive to close to the border of the map and a train just breaks down by chance and also all moons align" 18:53:45 <heffer> all from like 20 lines of backtraces 18:53:58 <maddy_> hehe 18:54:05 <ZirconiumX> Hmm. Maybe I should become a maintainer. 18:54:23 <glx> once we know where it happens it's easier to imagine why it happens (and fix it) 18:55:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:12 <Wolf01> buonasera o/ 18:57:41 <LordAro> hihi 19:02:29 *** Haube [~michi@37-4-204-175-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:33 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@ip-83-134-113-252.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 19:10:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B1FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:10:55 *** ZirconiumX [~matthew@cpc66203-derb15-2-0-cust161.8-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [Bye all] 19:26:15 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:36 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:06 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:13 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:28 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A19AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:42:05 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:27 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:18 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A19AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B1FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:35 *** triad [~triad@5-13-83-231.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:59 <Taede> evenink 20:06:17 <Wolf01> hi hi 20:20:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.175.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:36:40 <frosch123> night 20:36:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d013506.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:23:48 *** talebowl [~delltvgat@ip-83-134-113-252.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:31:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:46:21 *** zydeco [~zydeco@77.231.195.30] has joined #openttd 21:48:59 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:51:26 <zydeco> morning 22:08:56 *** NGC3982 [~kruger@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:09:46 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Und weg...] 22:10:16 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:10:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 22:11:26 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 22:12:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15:34 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:35 *** zydeco [~zydeco@77.231.195.30] has quit [Quit: miscellaneous hardware exception error] 22:37:34 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:48:23 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:07 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:0:24:63:1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:0:24:42:1] has joined #openttd 23:10:31 *** Devroush2 [~dennis@dd5765bac.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:16:27 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:38:03 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:37 <Wolf01> 'night 23:38:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:51:11 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]