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06:06:11 <Rubidium> Supercheese: I see no real reason why it shouldn't be 06:06:41 <Supercheese> Well, I meant via eints 06:06:43 <Rubidium> having said that, it might not have enabled eints translations 06:11:45 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@000128fa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:13:56 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:19:13 <Supercheese> although eints is not working for Latin for me at the moment anyway.... 06:26:51 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@000128f3.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:28 *** lobster [~lobster@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:34:09 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dd1c:f8cb:8751:8198] has joined #openttd 06:34:44 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 06:44:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:47:32 *** Celestar [~Celestar@mnch-4d044ac6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:56:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:02:31 *** InvokeStatic_ [~Invoke@c-24-11-157-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:28 <Supercheese> Hmm, the credit roll under "About OpenTTD" is not translatable 07:11:14 *** InvokeStatic [~Invoke@c-24-11-157-247.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:10 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@2a01:4f8:210:3011:1:0:3595:cbea] has joined #openttd 07:19:26 <__ln__> oh, a bug: the year is not expressed in roman numerals 07:23:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:23:38 <andythenorth> so not just a few more height levels then? 07:24:00 <V453000> wat wat wat wat wat 07:26:06 <Supercheese> the year where? 07:26:26 <__ln__> in the bottom left corner 07:26:50 <Supercheese> That is more of a personal preference, methinks 07:26:59 <Supercheese> I can read smallish numbers in Roman numerals easily 07:27:15 <Supercheese> but large numbers tend to cause more trouble than I desire 07:27:27 <__ln__> MMXIV 07:27:31 <Supercheese> also it's a {NUM} call or such 07:27:39 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@000128fa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:27:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ 07:27:53 <__ln__> yes, probably something the translation cannot change 07:28:32 <Supercheese> I can change the year under "About OpenTTD" though 07:28:35 <Supercheese> may be nice 07:29:16 <Supercheese> Huh... my textbook has all its copyright info in Latin, but retains Arabic numerals everywhere 07:31:10 <Supercheese> I suppose he didn't want to write the ISBN out in numerals 07:31:51 <Rubidium> aren't Roman numerals obnoxious after about 3000? 07:32:52 <Supercheese> Rubidium: they are obnoxious everywhere ;) 07:32:57 <andythenorth> MHL \o/ 07:33:27 <Rubidium> Supercheese: well, MIM it shorter than it's arabic equivalent ;) 07:33:54 <Supercheese> If only brevity equaled ease of reading & operating on 07:34:05 <Supercheese> and, well, even then it would still be lame 07:34:36 <Supercheese> anyway 07:38:01 <Supercheese> I've put the copyright dates in numerals 07:38:47 <Rubidium> thanks for the PITA ;) 07:40:17 <Rubidium> now my fix for r26192 doesn't work anymore :( 07:42:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-191-31.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 07:45:21 <Supercheese> @commit 26192 07:45:22 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Commit by rubidium :: r26192 /trunk/src (59 files in 3 dirs) (2013-12-31 23:08:55 UTC) 07:45:23 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: -Fix (r24878): off-by-one error ;) 07:45:46 <Supercheese> Ah, a script I presume 07:45:54 * Supercheese will take care of it 07:46:10 <Supercheese> string should be marked as needing validation each change 07:52:39 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-33-227.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 07:58:19 <planetmaker> they are marked as such. Aren't they? 07:58:26 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't un-break the script, though 08:05:05 <Supercheese> eh, I suppose 08:09:46 *** liq3 [liq3@120.147.178.81] has joined #openttd 08:11:03 <Rubidium> also, I wonder whether those copyright notices are "valid" with Roman numerals 08:12:41 <Rubidium> although... all those movies 08:13:24 <__ln__> also, the berne convention guarantees copyright without explicit notices about it. 08:24:53 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27012 trunk/docs/openttd.6 (2014-10-14 08:24:47 UTC) 08:24:54 <DorpsGek> -Change: improvements to the man page (bentley) 08:35:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:46:45 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p4FE21765.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:27:23 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dd1c:f8cb:8751:8198] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:39 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dd1c:f8cb:8751:8198] has joined #openttd 09:36:30 <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7I_z6k-MOY 09:45:06 <peter1138> :o 09:45:30 <peter1138> magic road vehicles 09:45:40 <andythenorth> probably faller car system 09:47:02 <andythenorth> http://www.faller.de/App/WebObjects/XSeMIPS.woa/cms/page/pid.14.17.109/lg.en/Car-System.html 09:47:22 <andythenorth> appeared when we were kids, depending on your age 09:58:59 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:01:42 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 10:17:20 *** fjb is now known as Guest1595 10:17:21 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:18 *** Guest1595 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:24:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 10:27:09 <V453000> I finally finished yeti walking cycle XD 10:27:13 <V453000> mayhem can begin 10:55:21 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-191-31.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:23:47 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27013 /trunk/src (vehicle_gui.cpp vehiclelist.h) (2014-10-14 11:23:41 UTC) 11:23:48 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: extract the functionality to determine the number of digits to make space for when drawing an unit number into a separate function 11:30:55 *** SHOTbyGUN [shotbygun@213-186-253-83.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:35:42 <liq3> V453000: The YETI worker yard NML Code comments don't match the play guide. 11:36:02 <V453000> I did not write it, Sylf did 11:36:15 <V453000> I would believe the play guide 11:37:38 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:39 <liq3> hrm 11:37:47 <liq3> Yeh Play Guide is probably right. 11:37:48 *** Jiinxs [~Jiinxs@ti0038a400-1924.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:10 <liq3> Interesting how worker yards work now. You can just have one giant city and 1 worker yard. :p 11:38:10 *** Jiinxs [~Jiinxs@ti0038a400-1924.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:39:33 <V453000> theoretically yes 11:39:39 <V453000> in practice waiting for the city to grow is a bit arse 11:39:45 <liq3> yeh, I'm sure 11:39:54 <liq3> ...also, is there even a limit on how many YETIs one worker yard can produce? 11:39:58 <V453000> but you can e.g. only give food/bdmt to one worker yard, and grow the town there 11:40:02 <V453000> while still using other worker yards 11:40:05 <liq3> yeh 11:40:08 <V453000> yeah probably 4x2295 per month 11:40:14 <V453000> or something like that 11:40:19 <liq3> that's weird. 11:40:34 <V453000> sounds suspiciously low though 11:40:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27014 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2014-10-14 11:40:38 UTC) 11:40:46 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6102]: unit number was not always fully shown in depots 11:40:48 <V453000> idk :) try 11:40:56 <liq3> I think I will. :D 11:41:14 <liq3> V453000: is there a reason PZG2013 had multiple oil refinaries? 11:41:21 <V453000> sure 11:41:26 <V453000> one can only output 30k something 11:41:29 <V453000> @calc 12*2295 11:41:29 <DorpsGek> V453000: 27540 11:41:33 <V453000> that 11:41:34 <liq3> oh interesting. 11:41:43 <liq3> what's up with those arbitrary limits. 11:41:59 <V453000> just some code limit in openttd 11:42:52 <liq3> well, there's one ingame with 29,519. hrm 11:43:24 <liq3> oh well doesn't matter. 11:45:13 <V453000> hm refinery probably doesnt have 12 tiles 11:45:17 <V453000> @calc 15*2295 11:45:17 <DorpsGek> V453000: 34425 11:45:22 <V453000> could be that 11:45:30 <liq3> so it's tiles x 2295? 11:45:32 <V453000> it is just amount of tiles *2295 11:45:33 <V453000> yeahy 11:45:36 <liq3> how odd. 11:45:48 <liq3> OpenTTD has so many weird technical 'quirks'. 11:47:37 <V453000> not like it is a big deal 11:47:40 <V453000> 30k is a lot 11:47:52 <V453000> unless your game needs 200k :> 11:48:11 <V453000> and even then, pzg2013 only produced it, didnt even transport it 11:48:48 <liq3> well. 11:49:21 <liq3> i'm wondering what the loss of goods in YETI is now. :D 11:49:35 <liq3> cargo* 11:50:10 <V453000> ? 11:50:13 <V453000> what loss 11:50:28 <liq3> Like, when you deliver original goods to a town, they disappear. 11:51:02 <liq3> I have a feeling YETI may endlessly increase the number of goods in existance... 11:51:06 <liq3> seems to be what's happening in my game. :P 11:51:42 <V453000> assuming you continue to grow the town, theoretically such effect should be there indeed 11:51:47 <V453000> in practice it isnt that drastical 11:52:05 <V453000> but it is good 11:52:10 <V453000> it follows the idea of the original game 11:52:14 <V453000> "you can never win" 11:52:33 <liq3> haha 11:52:47 <liq3> a neverending tide of cargo, and no matter how many trains, you can't deliver it all. :D 11:54:42 <V453000> well yes but original industries stay sane till ~2000 and when you get the fast trains they just explode 11:55:06 <V453000> while yeti should again have no real limit, but it should be more progressive 11:57:46 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-186.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:59:11 <V453000> chu 11:59:20 <Pikka> bless you 12:03:05 <V453000> thank thee 12:04:29 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-191-31.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 12:05:42 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:06:19 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:43:23 <andythenorth> hmm 12:43:30 <andythenorth> how do I enable gui zoom? 12:43:36 <peter1138> options 12:43:39 <andythenorth> I had it, then binned my repo and pulled trunk 12:43:46 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:43:54 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-19-186.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:44:02 <andythenorth> yay 12:44:31 <andythenorth> option 12:44:31 * andythenorth plays the old people edition 12:44:49 <peter1138> :d 12:44:51 <peter1138> er, :D 12:45:02 <planetmaker> :D 12:45:05 <peter1138> due to being old, i hit shift & capslock together... 12:45:17 <planetmaker> double-sized keyboard needed? 12:45:38 * andythenorth wonder who oldest dev is 12:45:59 <peter1138> Active... probably... uh... someone... 12:46:09 <peter1138> Belugas is older than me though :D 12:46:12 <andythenorth> and me 12:46:15 <andythenorth> afaik 12:46:32 * andythenorth is not ottd dev 12:46:46 <peter1138> Just as well, there'd be no features left :D 12:46:48 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:11 <andythenorth> rm 12:47:37 <peter1138> No bugs also! 12:47:55 <andythenorth> cb 15E would be first against the wall http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Callbacks#Refit_cost_factor_.2815E.29 12:48:08 <andythenorth> come the revolution 12:48:11 <peter1138> ini files 12:48:19 <andythenorth> hmm 15F 12:48:24 <andythenorth> I wrote most of 15F :O 12:48:33 <andythenorth> itâs about two lines :P 12:49:05 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:49:46 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:50:25 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:51:06 <andythenorth> why am I drawing trams with two cabs? 12:51:12 <andythenorth> they canât fricking reverse :P 12:51:23 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52:25 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:53:15 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:54:06 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:55:54 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:25 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 12:59:04 <peter1138> Make them reverse 12:59:23 <andythenorth> would make trams too easy? 12:59:32 <andythenorth> no need for those tedious turnround loops? 12:59:53 <andythenorth> have to code swapping tracks :P 12:59:59 <andythenorth> meh etc 13:00:09 * andythenorth back to drawing fruit tram 13:01:53 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06:13 <peter1138> Ew, I left it on zBase. 13:07:26 <andythenorth> :( 13:10:18 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 13:10:55 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11:26 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 13:12:31 <planetmaker> peter1138, I wonder whether it shouldn't be two setting possibilities, one for button size, one for (sprite) font size 13:12:48 <planetmaker> but maybe that's better changed when we get real font config. 13:13:00 <planetmaker> and maybe I just want less blocky 2x sprite fonts :P 13:15:03 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16:18 <peter1138> Main reason I did font-size was to solve the bloody text-icons :S 13:21:19 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:49 <andythenorth> bah 13:22:52 <andythenorth> I just invented this 13:22:53 <andythenorth> http://iagenweb.org/cerrogordo/photos/electric_Brick_Tile_1952.jpg 13:22:55 <andythenorth> then found the picture 13:23:32 <V453000> xd 13:23:48 <V453000> lesson to learn: dont look for pictures XD 13:27:03 <LordAro> now that's interesting... http://i.imgur.com/p4jBOYY.png 13:27:18 <LordAro> newgrf scanner text is fine though... 13:27:34 <planetmaker> you've an interesting choice of font, LordAro ;) 13:28:07 <planetmaker> newgrf scanner text might not yet use openttd's font engine. It doesn#t yet know about grf availability 13:28:19 <LordAro> unfortunately, i haven't set any font 13:28:28 <planetmaker> (it's actually a grf scanner, finding also base sets) 13:28:48 <planetmaker> same as reload_newgrfs reloads base grfs, too ;) 13:28:55 <planetmaker> luckily 13:29:16 <Rubidium> static NewGRFs? 13:29:26 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has joined #openttd 13:29:37 <planetmaker> I don't know about those 13:29:55 <LordAro> none 13:29:56 <planetmaker> but you could consider base sets as such :) 13:30:05 <LordAro> reload_newgrfs did nothing either 13:30:55 * LordAro tests a clean checkout to make sure 13:32:19 <LordAro> something's corrupted somewhere though, as the "font" seems to be using the animated colours 13:36:32 <Rubidium> default palette? 13:37:31 <LordAro> nope, clean checkout broken too 13:38:02 <LordAro> `newgrf_default_palette = 1` 13:38:28 <LordAro> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pkb2dxog4/ <-- have cfg file 13:39:21 <peter1138> zBase... 13:39:26 <peter1138> but that isn't zBase. 13:40:24 <Rubidium> LordAro: can you determine which exact revision caused this bug? 13:41:15 <LordAro> r(latest - 276) worked fine, as far as i can recall 13:41:23 * LordAro will do some bisecting 13:41:40 <peter1138> Focus on 27004 I guess 13:47:38 <LordAro> will do so 13:47:48 <LordAro> or, i would, if i didn't have a lecture in 15 mins 13:48:46 <planetmaker> write a small bisecting script and have it test automatically ;) Problem: a script taking screenshots and analysing them might take more than 15 minutes to write :P 13:49:09 <peter1138> LD 13:49:10 <peter1138> :D 13:49:38 <LordAro> planetmaker: :p 13:49:40 <Rubidium> planetmaker: but the screenshot taking already exists: intro game competition 13:50:22 <LordAro> i feel like analysing them is an open research problem though ;) 13:51:30 <peter1138> What compilers do you use? 13:52:58 <LordAro> it's probably using gcc 13:53:16 <LordAro> i can force it to use clang if you'd like 13:53:20 <peter1138> No 13:53:55 <peter1138> You probably could've quickly tested 27003 and 27004 by now :p 13:54:58 <LordAro> possibly :p 13:55:04 <LordAro> but i'm doing it properly ;) 13:55:12 <LordAro> i shall continue this later 13:55:19 <peter1138> ... 13:55:20 * LordAro -> differential equations 13:55:24 <planetmaker> Rubidium, yes. But the automatic analysis might be more interesting, returning 1 or 0 depending on 'bad' or 'good' 13:55:48 <peter1138> I'm not sure what is improper about testing 2 specific revisions. 13:59:23 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 14:12:30 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r27015 trunk/src/fontcache.cpp (2014-10-14 14:16:38 UTC) 14:16:44 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Also scale the character spacing for fonts without shadow. 14:17:31 <peter1138> Small font doesn't look weird now :D 14:24:57 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 14:32:22 *** Ieuan [~ieuan@ip4dab5921.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 14:36:02 <Rubidium> are fonts individually scal(e?)able? 14:39:12 <peter1138> Nope. 14:39:47 <peter1138> Well, freetype fonts are not scaled of course. 14:58:08 <peter1138> planetmaker, how's the drive? 15:00:09 <planetmaker> the drive disconnected. But it didn't take down the system with it 15:00:18 <planetmaker> thus still not formatted 15:00:29 <peter1138> Hmm :S 15:02:51 <planetmaker> I'm starting to get hungry and getting something to continue to worry about for tomorrow. I'm starting to think it's a problem with the drive 15:03:09 <planetmaker> it's not like any other usb driver ever caused problems 15:03:29 <planetmaker> *drive 15:03:29 *** Celestar [~Celestar@mnch-4d044ac6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:03:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01fefb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:14 <peter1138> Hmm, I wonder if it's SMART queryable. 15:08:27 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:41 <andythenorth> hmm 15:10:48 <andythenorth> is oil more like goods and stuff 15:10:54 <andythenorth> or more like coal and stuff 15:10:55 <andythenorth> ? 15:11:03 * andythenorth considering whether itâs a 30t tram or a 50t tram 15:11:11 <andythenorth> but also refits chemicals, petrol and crap 15:11:16 <Taede> more like coal i'd say 15:11:25 <Taede> goods tend to have lots of air packed along with it 15:11:44 <Taede> whereas raw resources are packed in one huge container (tank/hopper whatever) 15:13:35 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:15:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 15:22:31 <LordAro> peter1138: confirmed that r27004 is the breaking change 15:23:23 <peter1138> But why only you :S 15:23:45 *** smurf [~smurf@2001:780:107:0:1278:d2ff:fea3:d4a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:33 <LordAro> no idea :/ 15:24:53 <peter1138> Can you try http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/sc1.diff 15:27:29 <LordAro> works! 15:28:47 <peter1138> Sounds good to me. 15:29:05 <peter1138> I like it when my hunches are right ;p 15:29:21 <peter1138> I don't know why it's worked for everyone else though, heh. 15:30:21 <LordAro> what's the issue with that? 15:32:30 <peter1138> I guess it's just been luck that it worked for everyone. 15:32:48 <peter1138> And your compiler is slightly different somehow. 15:32:55 <peter1138> I tried with clang too and it was still fine :P 15:33:54 <LordAro> gcc 4.9.1 15:34:14 <peter1138> bleeding 15:34:38 <LordAro> #archmasterrace 15:34:48 <peter1138> Suckers 15:35:23 <peter1138> Fuck it, I installed my policy .deb on some servers and it keeps kicking me off an idle login now :() 15:35:27 <peter1138> (as per policy) 15:35:51 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.234.244] has joined #openttd 15:43:19 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:46:31 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220149.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:51:03 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:51:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:51:27 <andythenorth> o/ Alberth 15:51:37 <Alberth> hi hi 15:51:59 <Alberth> found cat? 15:52:19 <andythenorth> yes 15:52:22 <andythenorth> under chair 15:52:25 <andythenorth> usual place 15:52:27 <andythenorth> also found trams 15:52:49 <andythenorth> such trams http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1133695#p1133695 15:53:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:24 <peter1138> double double ui 15:53:44 <andythenorth> retina screenshots :| 15:53:48 <andythenorth> canât be bothered to downsample 15:54:08 <peter1138> Hmm, so your pixels are already doubled? 15:54:14 <andythenorth> yair 15:56:51 <LordAro> dat quad UI tho http://i.imgur.com/1p1tFEJ.jpg 15:57:35 <peter1138> aye 15:58:25 <peter1138> So does openttd need to do something special to use single pixels on a retina display? 15:58:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:59:34 <Alberth> :O farm trams! /me likes 16:00:40 <peter1138> andythenorth, but where's Toby? :S 16:00:44 <andythenorth> also 100% realistic :( 16:01:09 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@179.181.225.62] has joined #openttd 16:01:25 <andythenorth> peter1138: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6710/toby.png 16:01:29 <andythenorth> no henrietta mind 16:02:14 <Alberth> "realistic" is not a problem on its own, you're free to make realistic things as long as it fits game play 16:02:43 <andythenorth> also https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6711/primary_trams.png 16:02:49 <andythenorth> oil and mining 16:03:28 <Alberth> ha, looks like a tram-only game could be fun :) 16:03:50 <peter1138> You mispelled train :D 16:03:55 <andythenorth> theyâre basically substituting for trucks before 1940 16:04:19 <andythenorth> such realism 16:04:24 <Alberth> :D @ peter1138 16:04:33 <andythenorth> what are âtrainsâ ? 16:05:05 <Alberth> trams with a split one-but-last wagon? 16:05:15 <andythenorth> do they have cabeese? 16:05:24 <andythenorth> are they BAD FEATURES? 16:05:27 <Alberth> optional 16:05:48 <andythenorth> ships should have cabeese 16:05:53 <Alberth> :) 16:07:24 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.234.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:31 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 16:09:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r27016 trunk/src/spritecache.cpp (2014-10-14 16:09:21 UTC) 16:09:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r27004): Setting font-sprite data failed for some user(s). 16:10:21 <LordAro> "some" 16:10:22 <LordAro> :p 16:12:42 <peter1138> Damn, no r27016 servers :( 16:13:09 <LordAro> funny that 16:14:53 <Terkhen> LordAro: you are notalone, r27011 nightly gives me that same error 16:15:43 <Alberth> hi Terkhen, thanks for answering the scenario forum post 16:16:46 <Terkhen> hi, the new posts were brought to my attention after receiving both an email and a PM :) 16:16:58 <Alberth> :) 16:18:19 <LordAro> a Terkhen! 16:18:21 <LordAro> :D 16:19:09 <Terkhen> I was going to test more height levels in order update the extended heightmaps proposal accordingly; I'll wait until the new nightly is generated 16:20:33 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has joined #openttd 16:20:46 <Alberth> I haven't tried generating higher mountains yet 16:20:47 <LordAro> how is Terkhen? 16:22:39 <andythenorth> more height levels ftw 16:22:46 <Alberth> it is? 16:22:53 <andythenorth> I think so 16:22:58 <andythenorth> not BAD FEATURE 16:23:17 <andythenorth> terragenesis still sucks :) 16:23:22 <andythenorth> but thatâs not new 16:23:30 <Terkhen> LordAro: not much new :P 16:25:43 <Alberth> my settings are normally such that going straight up is not an option 16:26:02 <Alberth> as such, a higher hill doesn't make it more challenging :p 16:28:59 <andythenorth> I am normally playing 256x256 so mhl doesnât do much there either 16:30:47 <andythenorth> reefer tram madness https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6712/reefer_tram.png 16:35:14 <peter1138> Looks like a class... something or other. 16:35:54 <andythenorth> 83 16:38:00 <andythenorth> dunno 16:41:39 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 17:07:03 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/bridgehead2.png 17:07:08 <peter1138> What a silly junction. 17:09:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A7D9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:10:09 <andythenorth> well 17:10:26 <andythenorth> the signals are in a silly place 17:10:28 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/ez10real.png 17:10:33 <peter1138> That scaler... 17:10:39 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:10:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:10:41 <andythenorth> yes well 17:10:47 <peter1138> Yeah it predates pbs ;P 17:10:50 <peter1138> Er, yapf. 17:10:54 <peter1138> Er 17:10:56 <peter1138> no 17:10:57 <peter1138> wsoiehgioerdhgireh 17:11:03 <peter1138> It predates path signals. That's the one. 17:11:06 <andythenorth> bridgeg 17:11:08 <andythenorth> eh? 17:11:13 <andythenorth> bad typing 17:11:23 <andythenorth> bridgeheads on tunnel entrances? 17:11:31 <peter1138> never! 17:11:41 <peter1138> that's exclusive to ttdpatch 17:12:11 * andythenorth considers moving to ttdp 17:12:45 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:13:29 <andythenorth> thereâs some problem with building on tunnels? 17:13:38 <andythenorth> something glitches, canât remember what 17:13:41 <andythenorth> someone had a screeny 17:15:17 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/recolour3.png 17:15:19 <peter1138> dat colour 17:16:52 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:18:05 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/spoonfed.jpg < wut? 17:18:35 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/stbr5.png also 17:18:43 <peter1138> i shouldn't keep this stuff :p 17:19:11 * andythenorth has about 1000 odd screenshots 17:19:17 <andythenorth> mostly of stuff that got deleted later 17:19:22 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/tto.png < why did i do that? 17:19:35 <andythenorth> because you could 17:20:18 <peter1138> I wonder what it'd look like with 2x ui 17:20:30 <andythenorth> not awesome 17:20:57 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A1C3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:21:19 <andythenorth> ugly grain hopper tram is ugly https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6717/grain_tram.png 17:21:22 <andythenorth> or functional 17:21:31 <andythenorth> canât have them all looking the same, eh? 17:21:53 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/wtf.png < someone with a thorough understanding of signals there 17:22:13 <andythenorth> nothing wrong with that 17:22:16 <andythenorth> highly efficient 17:25:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B123.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:27:31 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220149.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:41 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:28:24 <Alberth> just put the percentage as number on the wagon, and add a vehicle effect for the type of cargo :p 17:33:27 <andythenorth> intriguing idea 17:42:58 <peter1138> Hmm, those locks I did... 17:45:11 <peter1138> LARKS! 17:45:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-13-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:45:39 <Wolf01> hi hi 17:47:33 <Alberth> moin Wolf 17:49:05 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27017 /trunk/src/lang (8 files) (2014-10-14 17:48:51 UTC) 17:49:06 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:49:07 <DorpsGek> catalan - 11 changes by juanjo 17:49:08 <DorpsGek> english_US - 1 changes by Supercheese 17:49:09 <DorpsGek> german - 6 changes by planetmaker 17:49:10 <DorpsGek> hungarian - 14 changes by Brumi 17:49:11 <DorpsGek> italian - 1 changes by lorenzodv 17:49:12 <DorpsGek> latin - 6 changes by Supercheese 17:49:13 <DorpsGek> spanish - 3 changes by SilverSurferZzZ 17:49:14 <DorpsGek> welsh - 8 changes by kazzie 17:49:38 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27018 trunk/src/tgp.cpp (2014-10-14 17:49:32 UTC) 17:49:39 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6141] (r27008): the higher amplitudes needed for higher maps were not ignored properly causing much smoother maps than wanted 17:51:02 <andythenorth> what did you do the locks? 17:51:07 <andythenorth> to * 17:53:39 <peter1138> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD4oOe-8Bk8 17:55:35 <Rubidium> where are the doors? 17:55:49 <NGC3982> Dead, or at least high. 17:56:37 <peter1138> Invisible... 18:40:56 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:40:56 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:12 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:12 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:45 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:45 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:30 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 18:47:30 *** MTs-iPad_ [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:02 <Rubidium> ipads must be really unstable ;) 18:48:23 <SpComb> background applications? 18:54:11 <andythenorth> ipad irc is shit 18:54:20 <andythenorth> totally unworkable 18:55:10 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Better than Kindle IRC 18:55:32 <FLHerne> Darn thing OOMs on me if I try to connect to more than a half-dozen channels 18:55:40 <FLHerne> And all the flickering... 18:58:40 <andythenorth> hmm 18:58:44 <andythenorth> this tram turned out ok 18:59:06 <andythenorth> peter1138: nice locks 18:59:14 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 19:01:32 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:02:59 <frosch123> Supercheese: just fixed latin in eints 19:03:11 <Supercheese> frosch123: Many thanks, I will go test it 19:05:09 <Supercheese> Excellent, working nicely 19:05:28 <frosch123> \o/ 19:08:50 <andythenorth> reefer tram 19:08:51 <andythenorth> http://ceramembersblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/terrells-11-15-13-11.jpg 19:08:55 <andythenorth> such realisms in Road Hog 19:09:14 <Supercheese> Ice ice tram baby 19:10:45 <NGC3982> That is so nice. 19:41:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A7D9.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:50:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 20:16:34 *** Jiinxs [~Jiinxs@ti0038a400-1924.bb.online.no] has quit [] 20:27:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:29:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B123.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29:56 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:59 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:28 <planetmaker> good evening 20:38:34 <peter1138> hi 20:40:13 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 20:40:34 <peter1138> Hmm, persistent storage for vehicles... why? 20:40:58 <frosch123> more puzzle games 20:41:48 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/icons.png < wonder whatever happened to that 20:41:51 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:42:47 <frosch123> looks like it would look silly with default font size 20:42:48 <Rubidium> it got unapplied 20:42:59 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:32 <peter1138> frosch123, yeah probably 20:43:37 <frosch123> planetmaker: opensfx+msx have latin now :) 20:44:05 <Rubidium> ... just requires a release to actually get them to the users :( 20:46:15 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/widgetdata.diff < lol, found it 20:46:33 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@dslc-082-083-149-171.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:36 <peter1138> dec 2012 ... 20:47:19 <Rubidium> did I do all chunks? 20:49:44 <Wolf01> 'night 20:49:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:50:48 <Rubidium> peter1138: you committed that in r24853 ;) 20:51:02 <peter1138> Did I? Hmm! 20:52:33 <peter1138> So I did. And got it wrong evidently :) 20:53:22 <Rubidium> well... that's due to the way the widget tree itself is constructed; it's kinda obfuscated a bit 20:53:43 <peter1138> Yeah. Some days I think I actually understand it, then something else crops up :p 21:05:18 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97BA869.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:05:54 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:14:22 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:dd1c:f8cb:8751:8198] has quit [Quit: .] 21:19:33 <planetmaker> ui, so we should release them anew, too, frosch123 ? :) 21:20:25 <frosch123> for sv i switched to postfix the version with the revision 21:20:45 <frosch123> so the verson refers to the actual content, and the revision to the minor additions 21:21:06 <frosch123> (assuming that translations are always a minor addition, since they only affect a part of the users) 21:21:55 <frosch123> anyway, i think translations happen in bursts 21:22:06 <frosch123> some new translator shows up, translates all projects, leaves again 21:22:13 <planetmaker> you mean like v1.0.xxx 21:22:35 <frosch123> Silicon Valley 3-5389 21:22:39 <planetmaker> ah 21:22:58 <frosch123> savegame version 3 - repo version/date 5389 21:23:32 <frosch123> but yes, basically putting the date-version in the last position 21:23:58 <frosch123> so, if current omsx is 0.3.1, it could become 0.3.5389 21:24:22 <frosch123> but maybe that is also confusing :p 21:24:33 <frosch123> i just picked it because i could code that into make bananas :p 21:25:20 <planetmaker> :) 21:25:48 <planetmaker> I think I'll keep the usual x.y.z for the base sets. They don't need a user-visible revision 21:26:07 <planetmaker> the version is fine, a tag can be used too for make bananas ;) 21:26:28 <planetmaker> but that doesn't work so nicely automatically, of course :) 21:41:12 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A1C3.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:51:07 <frosch123> night 21:51:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01fefb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:00:57 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 22:10:14 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@dslc-082-083-149-171.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [SeaMonkey 2.29.1/20140927174756]] 23:08:01 <argoneus> good night train friends 23:55:02 *** ixalovh [~ixalovh@adsl-69-208-81-185.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #openttd