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02:08:24 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 02:11:45 *** debdog has quit IRC 02:45:21 *** glx has quit IRC 03:09:58 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 03:10:23 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 03:35:54 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 06:16:36 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:57:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:03:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 08:01:26 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 08:02:26 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 08:02:26 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 08:19:49 *** D-HUND is now known as debdog 08:48:03 *** roadt__ has joined #openttd 08:55:00 *** roadt_ has quit IRC 09:07:31 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:30:17 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 09:30:31 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 13:17:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #9572: Fix: Changing raw industry funding method redraws GUI https://git.io/Jz2r9 14:04:49 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:29:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i might have screwed up my system 14:30:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i selected a bunch of updates, and it started with "uninstalling glibc"... now nothing that wasn't already running runs anymore... 14:30:54 <FLHerne> er, yeah 14:31:02 <FLHerne> glibc is pretty useful 14:39:05 <dwfreed> that's fixable, but it's a pain to do 14:39:49 <Eddi|zuHause> any suggestions? 14:40:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, my current plan is "boot from usb repair disk, reinstall the missing package" 14:40:52 <dwfreed> that's basically it 14:42:31 <dwfreed> for debian, dpkg --root=/your/fs -i ./glibc.deb 14:42:36 <dwfreed> after fetching the deb 14:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm using opensuse. and i'm pretty sure i have all the packages cached. but i can't run rpm to install anything 14:54:48 <LordAro> if something is still running, the file is probably still there, just marked as deleted 14:54:54 <LordAro> though i've no idea how you'd pull it out 14:54:55 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:02:31 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 15:02:45 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 15:11:09 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:11:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:17:55 *** tokai has quit IRC 15:18:41 <nielsm> yep you'd need a rescue boot disk for that 15:19:07 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:19:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 15:23:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh approved pull request #9572: Fix: Changing raw industry funding method redraws GUI https://git.io/Jzatl 15:25:55 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:27:00 *** roadt__ has quit IRC 15:27:26 *** roadt__ has joined #openttd 15:28:50 <Eddi|zuHause> LordAro: yes, i've done that with files before, but it's hard to do when you can't run any commands :) 15:29:30 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:29:51 <LordAro> mm 15:31:04 <Eddi|zuHause> my boot disk should be done any second now... i'll probably be "dead" for a while then :p 15:31:20 *** blindvt has joined #openttd 15:31:34 <blindvt> hi 15:32:56 <blindvt> Could it be that openttd on windows does not use the configured proxy settings? 1.11.2 here 15:33:12 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on issue #9571: [Bug]: No music or sound on Linux Debian https://git.io/JzB9f 15:33:59 <nielsm> openttd makes direct socket connections, it doesn't use any configured HTTP proxy or anything no 15:34:09 <nielsm> direct network connections* 15:36:02 <blindvt> nielsm, hmz. That not ideal. All the clients are blocked from direct network access but must use the grand squid 15:36:49 <Eddi|zuHause> that's unlikely to work, then 15:39:13 <blindvt> which servers are used to "download extensions" in the splash menu? Maybe i can get those whitelisted by my net admins 15:41:25 <nielsm> bananas.openttd.org 15:42:22 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 15:42:44 <blindvt> nielsm, many thanks! 15:43:25 <blindvt> and cudos for this excellent game!! 15:49:37 <Eddi|zuHause> pray for me. 15:50:03 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 16:02:49 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:02:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:25:54 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:26:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:52:45 <peter1138> rpm-based systems eh? 16:58:02 <dwfreed> apt would have been like "are you really sure you want to remove glibc? it's Essential!" 17:07:47 <nielsm> but apropos the above question, I really do wonder if it wouldn't make sense to write a new HTTP wrapper that uses the system HTTP library and respects system proxy etc. 17:08:01 <nielsm> and/or curl 17:12:15 <dwfreed> definitely 17:13:46 <blindvt> a simple --proxy host:port option would work for me. On linux we have the http_proxy/https_proxy env vars, autodetection of wpad.localdomain/wpad.dat java config scripts and whatnot. Windows has that proxy settings somewhere. _I_ wouldn't want to manually write support for all these ;) 17:14:18 <dwfreed> windows and mac both have system-level proxy config options 17:14:51 <dwfreed> these will automatically get used if you use the system HTTP client libraries 17:14:52 <blindvt> It seems we'd only have to open the connection to the proxy and just talk HTTP to that (provided that you do use HTTP and not a custom proto, didn't look far enough yet) 17:15:11 <dwfreed> some people might be using SOCKS proxies 17:15:14 <blindvt> dwfreed, sounds easy 17:15:51 <dwfreed> Linux is more complex, but if you use eg libcurl, there's a flag to tell it to respect the proxy env vars 17:16:05 <blindvt> dwfreed, indeed to both 17:16:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:20:40 <nielsm> yeah that's also my point, proper support for proxies is hard, better let someone else do it right 17:20:45 <andythenorth> yo 17:21:21 <nielsm> and there's a lot of things in HTTP we also don't do right now 17:21:24 <nielsm> like HTTPS 17:21:40 <nielsm> and pretty sure HTTP/1.1 chunked encoding, and proper redirects? 17:22:33 <glx> hmm I can prevent dead end nodes to be added to open node list, but that's just a very small reduction of node count 17:23:34 <blindvt> There's NetworkHTTPContentConnecter and we'd maybe just need to disentangle the hostname from the TCPConnecter(proxy_host, proxy_port) 17:25:08 <blindvt> Connecter is funny, i'd have trouble not to type Connector :) 17:25:35 <glx> surprises everyone ;) 17:28:37 <dwfreed> nielsm: yeah, just grow a libcurl dep and move on with life 17:30:40 <nielsm> ideally use a system library to keep binary distribution size down imo 17:31:24 <nielsm> i.e. not use curl on windows 17:31:29 <dwfreed> libcurl is not that big :P 17:31:53 <dwfreed> but yeah, if the system API doesn't suck horribly, doing OS specific there is fine 17:36:45 <LordAro> libcurl on windows is a Pain 17:38:11 <LordAro> blindvt: there are actually some environment variables you could set - see src/network/core/config.cpp 17:38:58 <LordAro> though you can't change the port, that appears to be hardcoded 17:39:58 <glx> port can be set in env var (often used to test staging) 17:40:04 <LordAro> it's called 'default port' everywhere, but i don't see any way of changing it.. 17:40:43 <glx> all XXX_CS variables can be set with address:port 17:40:56 <LordAro> ah, it wasn't clear 17:41:05 <LordAro> well then, config.cpp should keep you happy 17:48:22 <glx> nielsm: about #9571 we suggested this on discord, and the result is sdl and fluidsynth, with fluidsynth driver saying "Could not set volume", but I'm out of ideas 17:52:44 <nielsm> fluidsynth plays through the game's internal mixer so uses the SDL sound driver for output in effect 17:52:59 <nielsm> so if the SDL sound driver doesn't work for any reason you won't have music either 18:06:14 *** Flygon has quit IRC 18:29:11 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 18:33:38 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 18:33:38 *** Gustavo6046_ is now known as Gustavo6046 18:48:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/Jza7b 18:48:09 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:49:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jorisdrenth commented on pull request #9513: Change: Use colourblind-friendly gradient for linkgraph https://git.io/Jza58 19:01:40 *** blindvt has quit IRC 19:03:05 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] michicc merged pull request #9511: Feature: Add selected toolbar buttons to MacBook Pro Touch Bar https://git.io/JE318 19:03:15 <andythenorth> emojibar eh :) 19:04:18 *** blindvt has joined #openttd 19:04:49 *** blindvt is now known as Guest800 19:07:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 merged pull request #9572: Fix: Changing raw industry funding method redraws GUI https://git.io/Jz2r9 19:08:42 *** arikover has joined #openttd 19:09:53 <arikover> o/ 19:13:01 *** Guest800 has quit IRC 19:29:26 <andythenorth> newgrf town growth callback when? 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