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00:23:28 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:30:55 *** Intexon^ has quit IRC 01:08:43 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 01:50:24 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 01:57:29 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 01:58:14 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 01:58:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm, still very choppy... 01:58:46 <Stablean> <md> not on this end 02:09:08 <Stablean> <md> i've a lot of rubber... 02:09:26 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's a good thing! 02:10:01 <Stablean> <md> not if it's mixed up with the fruit 02:36:54 *** Intexon^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:46:15 *** Intexon^ has quit IRC 02:53:49 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (connection lost) 03:23:36 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 03:23:36 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:23:52 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:23:54 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 04:02:22 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 04:24:19 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 04:29:59 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 04:46:16 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 05:06:03 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:21:43 <Stablean> *** F. 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12:57:56 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #2 12:57:56 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:57:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah 12:58:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> running a boat for a time 12:58:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and planes 12:58:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> near Area 51 12:58:47 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 12:59:10 <Sylf> you made another area 51? 12:59:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no md 12:59:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> iklucas did 12:59:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> me 12:59:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure why 12:59:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> boredom 12:59:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there will be eyecandy later :D 13:00:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did that while we have a jaming network 13:00:20 <Sylf> because fixing the jam is too hard :p 13:01:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:08:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Sishen: now has a proper LLL_RRR exit 13:09:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, okay 13:09:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we might want to move our food facility 13:10:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what the drop or pickup? 13:10:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> both food and good is too much for the drop 13:10:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the drop at fac that is 13:10:43 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> move food to near Amersfoort? 13:11:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> there's not enough capacity at the station where things for good and food is dropped of 13:11:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> awfully hilly there 13:11:25 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hills are fun 13:11:28 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> brb 5 mins 13:11:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> find a good location 13:11:40 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and we will get to work 13:14:58 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why would any one build lines inside a BBH?!?!?!?!?! 13:15:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 13:15:18 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> BBH01 and Dave! 13:15:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, dont know 13:16:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anyway 13:16:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have 3 locations 13:16:48 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to much there alread 13:16:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, thought so too 13:17:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so I also searched other possibilities 13:17:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it is quite close to a city 13:17:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> here 3 has tomush water arround it 13:17:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, and therefore most fun 13:18:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which one 2 or 3? 13:18:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> brb 13:23:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bk 13:24:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I still thin the we should delete Amersfoort Valley and put the new food area tehre 13:24:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and that isnt too close to Sishen? 13:25:00 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is quite close 13:25:10 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but has all the tracks in needs 13:25:14 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and a junction 13:25:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true 13:26:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the lake? 13:26:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good by lake 13:26:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 312 M 13:26:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know? 13:27:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only a drop in the pond 13:27:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and where exactly did you want it? 13:27:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sign it 13:33:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not liking that idea then Troy McClure? 13:34:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the flat space is very little 13:34:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you preferably dont want to put it directly next to the hub 13:34:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so anything with flattening that lake is actually too close 13:35:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I should say !food is the minimum distance 13:37:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah it is a bit on the small side 13:40:27 <Stablean> *** T. Werkhoven joined the game 13:40:46 <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> ello 13:44:52 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:46:03 <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> whoa, choppy 13:52:06 <Stablean> *** T. Werkhoven has left the game (leaving) 14:03:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so Troy McClure what shall we do then? 14:04:55 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 14:33:28 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 14:33:44 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 14:34:32 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 14:34:39 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi 14:34:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 14:35:48 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Network is jamme 14:35:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 14:35:58 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BBH02 merger 14:36:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we're in the middle of deciding where to move food 14:36:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> any ideas? 14:37:06 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Umm i dont even know where it is currently :P Looking around 14:37:57 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait so whats the problem with food? 14:38:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we have one drop for food and fac 14:38:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> everything is dropped at Amanzimitoti Oil ref 14:38:28 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh 14:38:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so either one has to go 14:39:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well the best location is probably NE so its still far away from the drop 14:41:31 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think !here 3 is a good location 14:41:37 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Flat, nice and far 14:41:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but its a bit tricky getting there 14:41:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Chris didnt like it much 14:41:56 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And no interference from other companies tracks 14:42:04 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm 14:42:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, first you have to get ther 14:42:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Land bridge? 14:42:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nah, not there 14:42:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> here! perhaps 14:42:53 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh thought those were our tracks 14:43:01 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats good 14:43:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still 14:43:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> A bit of a diversion though 14:43:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> everything north of BBH02 is actually SL 14:43:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's not properly connected 14:43:32 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah that would need to be upgraded 14:44:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so do that? 14:44:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If the ML was carried NE then !area is already occupied by coop tracks could make an easy conenction to !here 3 14:45:00 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im for it 14:45:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but do we want to go under Sylf tracks 14:45:29 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh 14:45:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or a land bridge at !perhaps 14:45:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True could ruin expansion !parhaps is probably best then 14:46:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> another thing 14:46:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Ngwaritsi water, Kranskop water and Bloemfontein Fruit 14:46:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> connect to BBH 03? 14:47:26 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah 14:48:19 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well bloem can be connected to the NEW ML via an SLH 14:48:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Think that would be more logical 14:49:42 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> New ML LL_RR or LLL_RRR? 14:50:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i think LL RR will suffice 14:50:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not sure though 14:50:08 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok 14:50:18 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well since its only foood stuffs atm then yeha should 14:56:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm 14:56:57 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ? 14:56:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not sure if there's enough room for an SLH 14:57:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I cant connect all those industries to SLH02 too 14:57:46 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Theres a enough space onyl the current tracks blocing 14:58:12 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Isnt SLH 02 a bit far away 14:58:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but Carolina Oil wells, annese and rubber could be connected to it 14:58:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and SLH 02 has enough capacity for that 14:58:49 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah 15:01:58 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TL 5? 15:02:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, CL 4 15:02:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok 15:07:41 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:08:53 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:37:43 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 15:55:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrD2DG? 15:55:43 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ? 15:55:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what to do with Carolina westand south? 15:56:14 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Umm connect to that new SLH you made? 15:56:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how? 15:56:24 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> cross or tunnel the ML 15:56:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 15:56:32 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 15:56:32 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:56:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know those answers 15:56:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 15:56:36 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hihi 15:56:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well since the ML i guess will be going straight just cross it? 15:56:57 <Stablean> <V453000> somebody still playing here? :) 15:57:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes 15:57:12 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah :D Pub will kill my CPU now 15:57:28 <Stablean> <V453000> :( 15:58:31 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Tunnel under ML -> create a break in the 3 tile gap then tunnel under the other ML? 15:58:33 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (or bridge) 15:58:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check !bridge 15:58:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's the best i can do you for 15:58:57 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or there :P 16:00:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#5) 16:01:10 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 16:01:22 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh 16:01:36 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno who did that 16:01:47 <Stablean> <V453000> the train inside is the least problem :) 16:01:54 <Stablean> <V453000> the "overflow" is just bad :) 16:02:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There are loads like that were built before i joined, I dunno how to build an overflow never tried :D 16:02:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Sylf has some nice ones 16:02:51 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (leaving) 16:02:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check Carolina Halt 16:03:27 <Stablean> <V453000> : 16:03:29 <Stablean> <V453000> ) 16:03:43 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That looks good 16:03:55 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, the basicmost one that meets all possible requirements 16:05:10 <Stablean> <V453000> see my factory for one of the latest overflow designs ;) 16:05:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 16:05:53 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P I need to practice building them 16:07:08 <Stablean> *** T. Werkhoven joined the game 16:07:14 <Stablean> <V453000> if you need them ... :) 16:08:37 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats station spread? 16:08:48 <Stablean> <V453000> 7 16:08:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> K 16:10:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> done 16:10:56 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nice 16:11:47 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:11:51 <Stablean> <V453000> hm, kinda many water towers 16:11:57 <Stablean> <V453000> happens :) 16:11:58 *** ZirconiumX has left #openttdcoop.stable 16:12:03 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P 16:12:09 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:15:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is that the pickup or drop? 16:16:00 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> First ppart is drop 16:19:00 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We using PBS for platforms or pre-sig? 16:19:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'd say pbs 16:19:24 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok 16:25:23 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> leave TL gaps or not? 16:25:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm 16:25:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need 4>2 16:25:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not another mixer 16:25:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im doubting if !this mixer is actually any good 16:26:05 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> scrpa them then 16:26:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just make a merger 16:27:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hows this? 16:27:49 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Looks fine 16:30:04 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> pre sig for initial dorp split then PBS? 16:30:06 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> or all PBS 16:30:09 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *drop 16:30:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm 16:30:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> pbs combined with presigs does weird things 16:30:54 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm 16:31:01 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> All pbs then 16:31:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off 16:31:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good luck 16:31:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok BB 16:31:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could have it working a moment right? 16:31:31 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 16:31:44 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah 16:32:37 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh cant funt plant 16:32:52 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Too close to another industry :/ 16:43:33 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has joined spectators 16:43:33 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:49:54 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:52:06 *** ODM has quit IRC 17:08:24 *** Sylf has quit IRC 17:08:24 *** PeterT has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** tneo has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** V453000 has quit IRC 17:08:30 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** TheODM has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** Stablean has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 17:08:32 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 17:09:21 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** charon.oftc.net sets mode: +oovo Vinnie_nl ^Spike^ Stablean KenjiE20 17:09:21 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** charon.oftc.net sets mode: +ovov XeryusTC XeryusTC V453000 V453000 17:09:21 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** charon.oftc.net sets mode: +ovov tneo tneo SmatZ SmatZ 17:09:21 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:09:21 *** charon.oftc.net sets mode: +o Sylf 17:09:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 17:09:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 17:09:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Vinnie_nl 17:09:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 17:09:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Mazur 17:09:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 17:09:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 17:10:43 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest3648 17:11:35 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:11:42 <Chris_Booth> Hi all 17:11:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 17:12:19 <Chris_Booth> How's it going? 17:12:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we (me and MrD2DG) just made that other food fac drop 17:12:50 <Chris_Booth> Yes 17:13:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I am just taking it in use 17:13:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> looks quite nice 17:13:51 <Chris_Booth> Nice i can't see now no optenttd for iPhone 17:14:33 <Chris_Booth> Wait yes I can I can vnc my desktop 17:19:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well? 17:21:00 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:21:39 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where is it? 17:21:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Kranskop Valley 17:22:08 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> looking good 17:25:38 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 17:31:33 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 17:38:13 <Stablean> *** ed joined the game 17:42:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk 17:42:20 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has joined company #2 17:44:38 <Stablean> *** ed has left the game (connection lost) 17:45:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, how do you like it? 17:46:10 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Looks good 17:46:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and in operating profit graph, you can clearly see when the stations were changed 17:46:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD Wow, quite a spike 17:46:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah 17:47:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but what did you expect with jams from BBH02 up to fac 17:47:22 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True, at least its nice and fluid now 17:47:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, could be better 17:48:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well ive only looked breifly but didnt see any areas of slowdowns 17:48:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> SLH02-BBH02 17:48:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and vice versa 17:49:08 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh 17:50:38 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The inner lane @ the BBH02 merge is free 17:50:44 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Trains needs better balancing 17:50:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> or another line 17:51:20 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 17:51:34 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 17:52:04 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (connection lost) 17:53:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH02-MSH01 17:54:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> possible solution: couple BBH02 an MSH01 17:54:21 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> As in a 4 way... 17:54:27 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorta 17:54:41 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That could work 17:54:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> defacto, you make BBH02 and MSH01 on e junction 17:55:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at BBH02 you alread split traffic to station and through 17:55:05 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thought they are quite a way apart and working on 2 busy junctions would be hell 17:55:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> instead of joining first and seperating later 17:55:25 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah 17:55:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> although most traffic seems to be to station 17:55:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and not through, i dont know howmuch we could gain 17:56:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, even if you close that link between BBH02 and MSH01 17:56:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains can still get to and from station 17:57:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> via BBH03 and SLH03 17:57:18 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i say either; LLLL_RRRR BBH02-MSH01, balance the traffic so the 3rd line is used more or merge them 17:57:21 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh 17:57:28 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 17:57:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, im not working on it :D 17:57:36 <Stablean> *** md has joined company #3 17:57:40 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD 17:58:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well I could but errrrm 17:59:33 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (connection lost) 17:59:41 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm 18:01:14 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wagon upgrade? 18:01:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is it necessary? 18:01:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No, just a habit :D 18:01:46 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But goods capacity really sucks.... 18:04:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we could replace some of the good cars 18:04:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the freightliners seem okay 18:04:22 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The new cars capacity is huge though 18:04:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but we could replace what's behind it with container cars 18:04:42 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i guess 18:04:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i seem to recall that Chris liked to have pure UKRS 18:05:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i dont really care 18:05:37 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm well its not necessary so i dunno 18:06:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I do have another fun proposal 18:06:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we have double headed trains now 18:06:21 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its not fun if one person has to do all the building :P 18:06:27 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> yes... 18:06:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and we cant have speeds over 196 kph 18:06:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cause of CL4 18:06:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why not 18:06:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and TL5 18:06:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh 18:07:01 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats that in mph? :P 18:07:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just a sec 18:07:33 *** TroyMcClure has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:07:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> d/w ill check 18:07:41 <TroyMcClure> @clcalc erail 4 18:07:41 <Webster> TroyMcClure: A rail Curve Length of 4 (7 half tiles) gives a speed of 196km/h or 122mph 18:07:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh 18:07:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 122 18:08:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but we might want maximum power 18:08:08 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think the next speed jump for most engines is 140mph 18:08:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> either replace both class 90 with one Class 20E 18:08:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or, what's fun: 18:09:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> one WAM12 with one Class 90 18:09:39 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That will take ages... 18:09:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> nty :) 18:09:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but it's a fun suggestion 18:10:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dual headed trains? 18:10:29 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Manually replacing 400+ trains isnt fun :P 18:15:05 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So you doing it then ? :D 18:15:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope, iim off 18:15:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D 18:15:33 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol ok 18:16:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb 18:16:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bb 18:16:18 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 18:16:25 *** TroyMcClure has quit IRC 18:25:17 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (connection lost) 18:25:17 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 18:34:49 *** Intexon^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:37:01 *** Twerkhoven[L] has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:37:46 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (leaving) 18:43:44 <Stablean> *** chriss joined the game 18:44:09 <Stablean> <chriss> hi :) would you mind if I take a look? ;) 18:44:23 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope :D 18:45:02 <Stablean> <chriss> just want to learn some better ways to buil stations 18:45:17 <Twerkhoven[L]> this is the server for that 18:45:23 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There are always some nice example on the public server 18:46:04 <Twerkhoven[L]> there too 18:47:39 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb 18:52:27 <Stablean> <chriss> that's just amazing... how long have you guys been playing (o)ttd? I started only two weeks ago 18:52:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk 18:53:03 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well us coop players and a few others have been playing for a while 18:53:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> new people join all the time though 18:54:07 <Stablean> <chriss> after I learn how to play I hope to join #openttdcoop 18:54:26 <Stablean> <chriss> I'm reading all your tutorials now 18:54:34 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> This server is the best place to learn 19:04:57 <Stablean> <chriss> a question about 209x254... shouldn't be there combo signals from cross up to station? 19:05:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where? 19:05:53 <Stablean> <chriss> coords 209 x 254 19:06:15 <Stablean> <chriss> west from area51 19:06:15 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> station name? 19:06:34 <Stablean> <chriss> germiston east 19:06:48 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh 19:06:58 <Stablean> <chriss> ahhh.. there are two separate stations 19:07:04 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah :P 19:07:19 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But even if they wernt the gap might be a bit too large for combo signals 19:07:57 <Stablean> <chriss> so what is the proper way to deal with that? 19:09:28 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well depends can go about it in different ways combos can be used 19:10:02 <Stablean> <chriss> is there a way to merge already built stations? 19:10:16 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont think so 19:13:06 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 19:13:08 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:14:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:14:39 <Stablean> *** md joined the game 19:15:35 <Stablean> <chriss> ok, gotta go... have fun and see you :) 19:15:44 <Stablean> *** chriss has left the game (connection lost) 19:38:03 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 19:38:11 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi 19:38:49 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #2 19:39:03 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (leaving) 19:40:16 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 19:40:16 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 19:46:43 <Stablean> *** Whimplash joined the game 20:06:07 <Stablean> *** Whimplash has left the game (leaving) 20:08:30 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali joined the game 20:12:06 <Stablean> *** DnZ-Ali has left the game (leaving) 20:12:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 20:12:44 <Stablean> <V453000> eve 20:12:54 <Stablean> <V453000> oh, bitches gone :) 20:13:34 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:17:33 *** Twerkhoven[L] has quit IRC 20:26:30 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:26:31 <Stablean> *** Dave joined the game 20:27:05 <Stablean> *** Dave has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:05 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:27:25 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:27:28 <Stablean> *** Dave joined the game 20:27:53 <Stablean> *** Dave has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:54 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:39:42 *** Intexon^ has quit IRC 20:53:47 *** Guest3648 is now known as Chris_Booth 21:09:24 <Stablean> *** T. Werkhoven has left the game (leaving) 21:10:15 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 21:48:38 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:48:41 <Stablean> *** sds joined the game 21:48:56 <Stablean> *** sds has left the game (leaving) 21:48:56 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:03:26 *** TheODM has quit IRC 22:17:32 <Sylf> !date 22:17:32 <Stablean> Sylf: 3 Oct 2072 22:17:45 <Sylf> o_o still on the same game 22:22:20 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 22:22:23 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 22:46:01 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 22:47:57 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 22:48:09 <Stablean> <Sylf> heya 22:48:35 <Stablean> <Anson> the map looks quite crowded :-) 22:48:52 <Stablean> <Anson> difficult to find what is going on 22:49:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> you think so? 22:49:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> to me, there are plenty of space that people can develop a small network 22:49:26 <Stablean> <Anson> i am used to build from scratch, solo, and then i exactly know what is going on and why 22:50:30 <Stablean> <Anson> but no reason to complain ... i like watching trains ... even if it is a single train going around across all the map :-) 22:52:30 <Stablean> <Anson> currently i am watching the mess at BBH02 :-) 22:53:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's ugly 22:53:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> too jammed up 22:53:58 <Stablean> <Anson> priority for trains from south ... merging with a ratio of maybe 10:1 or 20:1 :-( 22:54:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> there's more to it than that 22:54:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> the trains on the outside line going to the town drop is crawling so slow 22:54:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's one thing to blame 22:55:41 <Stablean> <Sylf> hen, the inside line looks less busy, but line's aren't properly balanced in the hub, causing a bigger jam than it needs to be 22:55:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> possibly, the drop station is too undersized too 22:55:59 <Stablean> <Anson> near town, there is a line merging into that rightmost lane ... and then the whole ML stops for a single train 22:57:06 <Stablean> <Sylf> this whole coop company's network looks like the coop style building excuted poorly 22:57:25 <Stablean> <Anson> at BBH02, most trains from the west come on the outer lane of three lanes, and try to merge with the busies lane from south 22:57:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> what's west and what's south to you? 22:57:57 <Stablean> <Anson> there are almost no trains on middle and inner tracks from the west 22:58:19 <Stablean> <Anson> i always call the top right screen corner north 22:58:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> top right is north? 22:58:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> wait... 22:58:51 <Stablean> <Anson> tilting my head 45 degrees clockwise :-) 22:59:26 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's different from the game's convention or coop's convention 22:59:45 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't think there are official headings ... north migbt also be top and main directions would be diagonal on the compass :-) 22:59:48 <Stablean> <Sylf> according to the game, the top of screen is north 23:00:11 <Stablean> <Sylf> according to coop's wiki, top-left corner of the screen is north 23:00:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> so, to me, these trains are coming from east and west, joining to one ML, heading South to the town 23:00:55 <Stablean> <Anson> ok, with that convention (which i didn't read about anywhere) the diagonal tracks are going north, south west and east .... not very intuitive 23:00:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> (southwest) 23:02:12 <Stablean> <Anson> ok, then the many blue trains are coming from north on outer lane and are stuck because of traffic from west !? 23:02:25 <Stablean> <Sylf> jee whiz... this coop's network is rather badly built 23:02:52 <Stablean> <Sylf> blue trains are coming from east 23:03:03 <Stablean> <Sylf> and the goods train are coming from west 23:03:38 <Stablean> <Anson> at BBH02 from north, turning a bit later to SLH06 (east), correct ? 23:04:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> SLH 6 is to the East of BBH 2 23:05:06 <Stablean> <Anson> LOL, even with my big screen, i didn't see that the width of BBH02 iw more than 6 Trainlengths :-) 23:06:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> that BBH 2 might look big, impressive, and look cool... but to me, it's not very well built 23:07:12 <Stablean> <Anson> in solo, i just tried to follow a few advices from the website to build stations, overrun, etc 23:07:42 <Stablean> <Sylf> you should actually join the public server game during initial building stage 23:07:44 <Stablean> <Anson> there are many nice theories, but even when i try to copy them 1:1 to my network, they don't work as described ... 23:07:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> and watch these hubs being built in real time 23:09:31 <Stablean> <Sylf> now the trains coming from south to BBH 2 are somewhat jamming up 23:10:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> and this jam will cause further jam in the same hub, heading toward the town 23:10:07 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's a bad cycle... 23:12:43 <Stablean> <Anson> exit of the drop at sishen halt is already blocked partially, thus blocking the incoming trains, and that is the queue extending to BBH02 23:13:36 <Stablean> <Sylf> hold on... I'm moving one of my stations... 23:17:25 <Stablean> <Sylf> so... yeah, I agree about the exit from Sishen 23:17:47 <Stablean> <Sylf> there's another jam extending from MSH 1 to BBH 3 too 23:18:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> But I doubt anyone will be fixing any of these stuff... 23:22:35 <Stablean> <Anson> how can i chat best ? ... when i am distracted for a moment, i miss chat in the lower left corner, but the console is too big and i can't type chat in it 23:23:00 <Stablean> <Sylf> you can use IRC 23:24:06 <Stablean> <Anson> never used IRC for a few years ... 20 years ago i used IRC, later i used trillian for IRC and a few other messengers 23:24:14 <Stablean> <Sylf> this server is configured so the chat is echoed between the game and the designated IRC channel 23:24:15 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 23:24:16 <Stablean> <Anson> and when playing wow, i chat ingame only 23:24:36 <Stablean> <Anson> which is the "best" IRC client ? 23:24:53 <Stablean> <Sylf> on what OS? 23:25:02 <Stablean> <Anson> vista 23:25:16 <Stablean> <Sylf> mIRC is most popular 23:25:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> chatzilla is a good free alnernative, esp for firefox users 23:25:42 <Stablean> <Sylf> I use xchat 23:25:44 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 23:26:18 <KenjiE20> my IRC client is an SSH window :p 23:26:32 <Stablean> <Sylf> hardcore ^_^ 23:26:47 <KenjiE20> (weechat on my file server) 23:26:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> I've never touched weechat... 23:27:09 <Stablean> <Sylf> I do use irssi as my personal bouncer though 23:27:13 <KenjiE20> it's a very nice curses client 23:27:37 <KenjiE20> imo it's way more readable by default than irssi and argueable more customizable 23:28:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> I haven't even touched any irssi customization 23:28:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> too lazy to mess around with tex file configs 23:28:43 <KenjiE20> yeah, weechat you do it all within the client 23:28:48 <Stablean> <Anson> mIRC is commercial ? 23:28:56 <KenjiE20> there's even add ons to do it interactively with tooltip help 23:29:00 <KenjiE20> it's nagware 23:29:49 <Stablean> <Anson> license agrement on install says "evaluation for 30 days, then you need license 23:30:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, after 30 days, it starts nagging you til you drop 23:30:12 <KenjiE20> it just nag's normally 23:30:31 <KenjiE20> you could try HydraIRC, I used to use that, but the quit messages are bleh 23:30:43 <KenjiE20> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/501502/weechat%20Capture.png <-- how mine looks Sylf 23:31:17 <Sylf> hrm 23:31:53 <Sylf> what's that console program? that's not putty... 23:32:02 <KenjiE20> PuTTYTray 23:32:16 <KenjiE20> has hyperlink support amongst a couple other extras 23:32:26 <Sylf> ah 23:32:31 <Sylf> I should check it out 23:32:41 <Stablean> <Anson> when i used chats a lot more in the past (10+ years ago), i started using ICQ ... had a member number with 7 digits only :-) ... now they are at 9 or 10 digits :-) 23:32:45 <KenjiE20> yeah, my set up has tweaked slightly this that shot too 23:33:05 <KenjiE20> 256 colours in weechat, and I'm using screen's caption line for sys stats now 23:34:06 <Sylf> I have to admit though... 23:34:29 <Sylf> I'm more drawn to puttytray's dransparency 23:34:34 <Sylf> than anything else :p 23:34:42 <KenjiE20> yeah. that's handy 23:35:26 <KenjiE20> I tend to lay unimportant windows under there sometimes, if screen 1 is getting cluttered, since IRC is on 2 23:36:08 <Sylf> hehe but that's pretty useless to me... I can't spread my focus to that many windows at a time