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00:07:37 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:20 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 00:13:49 <TomyLobo> Milaga you should check out the trailer of this game and see if you like it :) http://store.steampowered.com/app/115110/ 00:16:54 <TomyLobo> i could be totally off though 00:18:42 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:19:40 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 00:23:19 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:26:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:47 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 00:29:19 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:01 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:34:17 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 00:34:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BBA6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 00:35:08 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:41 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:36:43 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 00:37:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BC87.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:39:22 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:33 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has joined #openttd 00:48:14 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:26 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.58.9.171.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:56:23 *** adit [~adit@39.211.14.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:57:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BBA6.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:49 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.20.15.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:22 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 00:59:27 *** DarkAce-Z is now known as DarkAceZ 01:10:57 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 01:12:01 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:28 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-048-207.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:31:47 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:32:35 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:36:01 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 01:40:02 <Milaga> @TomyLobo its on my list of things to check out eventually. Too many games, not enough time. 01:40:41 <Milaga> So with ECS vectoring, do industries really need to get all of the resources to produce their product? 01:44:15 *** Kadar [~oftc-webi@cblmdm72-240-122-125.buckeyecom.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:47:50 <Eddi|zuHause> mostly, yes 01:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause> some of them have a "main" ressource that get you started, and an "additional" ressource to increase productivity 01:50:02 <Eddi|zuHause> but i never played with ECS long enough to figure out all the details 02:11:42 *** xT2 [~ST2@188.251.242.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:53 <Milaga> Thank you Eddi. 03:13:31 <Milaga> This scenario I'm playing has all of them active. The resource trees are extremely complex. So much for starting off with a good ol' Steel industry. 03:15:51 <planetmaker> Milaga, http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Vectors 03:22:04 <Milaga> Yeah, I'm looking there. The information is not very thorough. For example, where does Potash come from? 03:22:41 <Milaga> Which I need to make glass to make vehicles ... or do I? 03:33:29 <planetmaker> I would think that its docs are quite extensive... but I don't see the source of potash in the overview chart either 03:41:44 <Eddi|zuHause> it was either missed, or references a different version where it doesn't exist 03:45:09 <Milaga> I'll muddle through. When I'm done with the session tonight I'll look for a PDF or something. 03:45:12 <Milaga> Thanks again. 03:45:36 <Eddi|zuHause> you have the charts ingame as well 03:45:55 <Eddi|zuHause> on an industry, you can open the chain view 03:46:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and from there you can show all related industries on the map 03:46:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. all industries that accept or produce this cargo 03:49:04 *** adit [~adit@39.209.209.33] has joined #openttd 03:58:18 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 04:04:38 <planetmaker> indeed... use the ingame information. Contrary to websites it should be accurate :-) 04:14:11 <Eddi|zuHause> why the hell is 90% of the time needed for a system update spent in installing texlive packages? 04:18:50 <Milaga> Oh, I just noticed that ... the cargo tree has a nice link to highlight everything relevant on the map 04:36:17 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47:15 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-242-117.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4FA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66025.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:21:23 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.58.9.171.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:17 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.91.116] has joined #openttd 05:39:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:48:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 06:18:41 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:18:55 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 06:23:22 *** Pensacola [~quassel@phys9212.phys.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:39 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:42 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:36:51 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:37:02 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 06:37:57 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 06:41:52 *** adit [~adit@39.209.209.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:47:12 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:49:03 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 06:50:18 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.52.142] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:53:21 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:57:14 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:02:55 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 07:04:01 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:18:52 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:47:46 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 07:49:00 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-077-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 08:59:00 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has joined #openttd 09:13:33 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:40:44 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 09:46:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:59:01 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:07:02 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 10:10:01 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 10:32:31 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:47:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BBA6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:07:09 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 11:09:10 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:49 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:13 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 11:40:46 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 11:46:09 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:47 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 11:50:26 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:53:54 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.54.174] has joined #openttd 12:32:29 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.110.110] has joined #openttd 13:03:50 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.110.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:15:29 <Eddi|zuHause> "NSA and other anglo-saxon agencies do not have direct access to DE-CIX's internet nodes" ... so... only german, french, ...? 13:20:24 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 13:22:20 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22:45 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:26 <planetmaker> I'd be surprised if the Verfassungschutz has no access at DE-CIX 13:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> in other news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yqKdxNCRqA 13:36:41 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 13:42:27 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:42:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:46 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 13:50:14 *** Mazur [~mazur@546984B2.cm-12-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:53 *** Tom_Soft [id@37.140.111.55] has joined #openttd 13:51:47 *** Tom_Soft [id@37.140.111.55] has left #openttd [] 13:52:35 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:22:19 *** Sacro [~ben@000127ee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 14:22:35 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 14:28:42 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 14:36:23 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:43:06 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 14:46:07 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:44 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:31 *** roadt__ [~roadt@60.168.82.240] has joined #openttd 14:52:37 *** roadt_ [~roadt@60.168.91.116] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:56:16 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:12 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:40 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 15:13:07 <Eddi|zuHause> "Sir, they are shooting with LASERS at us!" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOChY-XCYAAbBwL.jpg:large 15:17:06 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.9.171.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 15:26:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25547 trunk/src/gfx.cpp (2013-07-01 15:26:27 UTC) 15:26:34 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5626]: ICU returns the width of the visual run as if the trailing space was added (in case a newline was added). This caused the width to be more than the requested width, but it would still be drawn correctly 15:44:06 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 15:52:07 *** NGC3982 [appe@noskapin.krot.se] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:53:50 *** appe [appe@noskapin.krot.se] has joined #openttd 16:05:10 *** appe is now known as NGC3982 16:07:32 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19BAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:51:05 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-077-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:53:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d58b2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:57 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:06 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 17:11:20 <Terkhen> hello 17:13:01 <frosch123> hai terkhen 17:15:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25548 trunk/src/depot_gui.cpp (2013-07-01 17:15:30 UTC) 17:15:37 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5629] (r25537): Removed too much code and forgot some other places. 17:37:27 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:38:43 <planetmaker> hello 17:39:20 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 17:45:34 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25549 /trunk/src/lang (4 files) (2013-07-01 17:45:24 UTC) 17:45:36 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:37 <DorpsGek> finnish - 41 changes by jpx_ 17:45:38 <DorpsGek> korean - 39 changes by telk5093 17:45:39 <DorpsGek> polish - 6 changes by p0358 17:45:40 <DorpsGek> slovak - 37 changes by Milsa 17:47:37 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:05 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 17:55:11 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 18:08:49 *** adit [~adit@39.208.141.191] has joined #openttd 18:17:27 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.9.171.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:17:52 *** adit [~adit@39.208.141.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:22:09 <NGC3982> Has there been any indication of zBase having issues in 1.3.1? 18:22:41 <planetmaker> issues like...? 18:23:24 <NGC3982> Openttd.exe crasches when changing to zBase in the menu. 18:24:09 <planetmaker> does it also crash when you change to another 8bpp baseset? 18:24:18 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 18:24:22 <NGC3982> No 18:24:35 <Rubidium> are you in full screen? 18:24:40 <NGC3982> Yes. 18:24:50 <NGC3982> Darnit, i can't seem to start the game 18:24:53 <Rubidium> so, sounds like FS#5571 18:25:19 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/DIOZIUw.png 18:25:37 * NGC3982 googles. 18:26:37 <NGC3982> Yes, that looks plausible. 18:30:14 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:49 <NGC3982> I'm a fair bit unfamiliar with the bugs section. As far as i can see, there is not yet a solution? 18:34:18 <Rubidium> besides not using Windows or not using full screen when switching... nope... 18:34:52 <NGC3982> I guess i will also have to reinstall OpenTTD to force it to un-use the graphics set. 18:35:05 <planetmaker> you guess wrongly 18:36:06 <planetmaker> it might not even have any effect. Opposed to editing your openttd.cfg 18:36:12 <NGC3982> Don't leave me hanging, bro. 18:36:17 <NGC3982> Oh, i see. 18:36:19 * NGC3982 opens. 18:37:02 <planetmaker> look for graphics or fullscreen. or both 18:39:36 <NGC3982> fullscreen = false 18:39:37 <NGC3982> graphicsset = 18:39:41 <NGC3982> That does not look right. 18:40:40 <planetmaker> set explicitly a graphics set then. Or you look at the wrong openttd.cfg 18:41:08 <planetmaker> zBase|OpenGFX|original_dos|original_windows 18:41:41 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 18:42:26 <NGC3982> There we are. Thanks. 18:44:34 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:37 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 18:47:51 *** BookaT [~Booka@cpe-24-28-157-113.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:48:26 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 18:50:12 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:35 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/EeP0ha2.png 18:51:38 <NGC3982> For god sake.. 18:52:03 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:21 <murr4y> svarar inte 18:53:26 <murr4y> smells like korv 18:53:45 <NGC3982> Mm. 18:54:11 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54:46 <Xaroth|Work> NGC3982: you can also try removing openttd.cfg 18:54:49 <Xaroth|Work> and letting it re-create itself 18:54:59 * NGC3982 tries that. 18:57:03 <NGC3982> That made OpenTTD unstartable. 18:57:53 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 18:58:11 * NGC3982 reinstalls. 18:58:28 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 18:58:30 <Xaroth|Work> wth 19:00:08 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C34E1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:00:11 <planetmaker> ehm... 19:00:44 <NGC3982> I uninstalled it, removed the folders, and i'm now reinstalling. 19:00:48 <NGC3982> Should be a quicker fix. 19:01:32 <planetmaker> uninstall does not remove ... openttd.cfg, savegames, newgrfs... 19:01:40 <planetmaker> so... no. not a fix, if it's your cfg 19:02:10 <NGC3982> Yes, that is why i removed the folders, the cfg, the NewGRFs and the savegame files.. 19:03:35 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 19:03:37 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:14 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:46 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:00 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 19:22:16 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:06 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 19:28:17 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 19:33:24 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:39 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:19 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 19:48:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25550 trunk/src/video/win32_v.cpp (2013-07-01 19:48:52 UTC) 19:49:00 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5571]: [Windows] Race condition between two drawing threads could crash OpenTTD 19:50:13 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 19:53:03 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 19:53:11 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25551 trunk/src/gfx_layout.cpp (2013-07-01 19:53:05 UTC) 19:53:12 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25465): Possible reading of uninitialised memory due to undefined execution order. 19:54:44 *** Dr_Tan is now known as Nat_aS 19:55:00 <Nat_aS> so I haven't played in ages 19:55:06 <Nat_aS> what's changed lately? 19:55:29 <frosch123> usually everyone gets older 19:55:39 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:59 <V453000> EXCEPT UNICORNS 19:59:14 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:59 <frosch123> V453000: they stay immature forever? 20:00:12 <Supercheese> most cartoon characters do not age 20:00:24 <V453000> no they are mature since always and forever 20:00:32 <Supercheese> reference Mickey Mouse 20:01:27 <NGC3982> Mm. Mickey. 20:01:45 <frosch123> Supercheese: you know the baby in roger rabbit? 20:01:54 <Supercheese> I can't say I do 20:02:07 <frosch123> he has an issue with not getting older :p 20:02:09 <NGC3982> frosch123: Man, that baby haunted me in my entire youth. 20:02:27 <NGC3982> First time i watched the movie, i was like "oh look, a cute baby! Wait.. what?" 20:03:23 *** SkeedR [~Skeed@2.31.248.5] has joined #openttd 20:03:49 <SkeedR> Ok, so, I'm playing OTTD r25001, is there a way to make the font bigger? 20:03:52 <Nat_aS> I have a question, I'm using Linix Mint right now, and I can install normal OTTD through the package manager, but what if I want to install cargodist, How does that work. I don't know how to install things in unix 20:04:10 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/download-trunk 20:04:14 <planetmaker> unzip. start. done 20:04:31 <SkeedR> Was that at me planetmaker? 20:04:40 <planetmaker> that was at Nat_aS 20:04:44 <SkeedR> :/ 20:05:04 <planetmaker> you: quit openttd. open openttd.cfg. find font size lines. edit. save. restart openttd 20:05:17 <SkeedR> ah, fabulous, thanks! 20:05:19 <V453000> frosch123: thanks for the hunt on the bugs n crashes to restore the unicorn domination :) 20:05:22 <planetmaker> also choose a different font 20:05:25 <Nat_aS> planetmaker that's for trunk though 20:05:40 <Nat_aS> I can do that in the package manager, how do I do that for cargodist? 20:05:49 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/download-trunk 20:05:52 <planetmaker> unzip. start. done 20:06:17 <frosch123> V453000: easy if you have ssh access to machine where it is reproducible :) 20:06:42 <V453000> still needs the effort to do it :) 20:06:54 <frosch123> Nat_aS: hint, you do not need to patch trunk to play with cdist for about 2 weeks now 20:07:04 <Nat_aS> oh 20:07:10 <planetmaker> :-) 20:07:12 <Nat_aS> cool 20:07:34 <Nat_aS> is the version in the package manager that up to date? 20:07:38 <SkeedR> Can OTTD use system fonts? 20:07:39 <planetmaker> no 20:07:56 <planetmaker> package manager usually never supply trunk. But some more or less outdated stable release 20:08:12 <frosch123> SkeedR: http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 20:08:21 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#My_User_Interface_is_too_small_to_read_.2F_My_font_is_unreadable_or_faulty 20:08:27 <Nat_aS> yeah 20:08:34 <frosch123> though also on linux you do not need the full path, but can just set the font name 20:08:38 <Nat_aS> that's what I was assuming 20:09:30 <SkeedR> I don't suppose anyone can say what size the map key uses? 20:09:46 <planetmaker> your openttd.cfg can 20:10:04 <NGC3982> "Map key"? 20:10:07 <SkeedR> heh, just realised that was a lazy question 20:10:10 <Supercheese> M by default, eh? 20:10:21 <Supercheese> or the legend of the map? 20:10:27 <Supercheese> key â hotkey? 20:10:36 <SkeedR> Not the shortcut, the text that tells you what stuff is on the map 20:10:36 <NGC3982> Oh. 20:10:40 <SkeedR> Legend 20:10:44 <Supercheese> Legend indeed 20:10:45 <SkeedR> That's the word I wanted 20:11:15 <Nat_aS> Hmm, how do I figure out of my OS is 32 or 64 in linix mint 20:12:01 <Supercheese> I've always wished someone would come up with a map projection method and called it "Zelda", for obvious reasons ;) 20:12:11 <Supercheese> and call it* 20:12:44 <frosch123> Nat_aS: "uname -a" 20:12:51 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 20:14:18 <NGC3982> Noted: Since 1.3.x, being able to put signals on rails under trains, but not being able to one-way a road with a vehicle on it. 20:14:34 <Nat_aS> nothing there with the numbers 32 or 64 in the reply 20:14:50 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-077-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:14:50 <planetmaker> getconf LONG_BIT maybe 20:15:02 <Nat_aS> 32 20:15:03 <Nat_aS> finaly 20:15:14 <Nat_aS> geeze, I can find out everything BUT that 20:15:43 <Supercheese> it's really 34-bits, but it gave up two for a shave and a haircut 20:17:14 <Nat_aS> so I'd want generic i686? 20:18:25 <planetmaker> yes 20:24:16 <Nat_aS> allright it's running 20:24:25 <Nat_aS> so is cargodist the default, or do I have to turn it on? 20:24:40 <frosch123> turn it on in the settings 20:24:55 <frosch123> you have to say which cargo classes and such 20:26:43 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 20:26:48 <Xaroth|Work> Nat_aS: did you have x86 in your uname -a ? 20:29:15 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:49 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 20:32:11 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-77-76.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:24 <Nat_aS> no but it did have i686 20:34:47 <Nat_aS> Linux COMPUTERNAME 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:41:14 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux 20:35:26 <frosch123> yeah, that means 32 :) 20:35:28 <planetmaker> i686 also indicates 32bit. 64bit are indicated by x86_64 20:36:40 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:16 <TinoDidriksen> Or amd64 20:37:33 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:38:36 <Nat_aS> yeah 20:38:46 <Nat_aS> I realize that now 20:39:34 <Nat_aS> >Brazil map 20:39:38 <Nat_aS> >Temprate landscape 20:39:41 <Nat_aS> WHY.jpg 20:41:18 <Nat_aS> Also unplayably large and with square rivers 20:41:29 <Nat_aS> why do people do this? 20:42:14 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:05 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 20:45:31 <__ln__> http://i.imgur.com/ZXu96Uo.jpg 20:46:43 *** ntx_ [~ntx@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c027-185.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:55:52 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 20:57:54 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 20:59:01 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:01:15 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:54 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:42 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:04:41 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:02 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:07:45 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:12 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:14 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:43 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:19:09 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:20:36 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.9.171.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 21:20:42 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:44 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:58 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that is from xkcd 21:42:18 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d58b2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 21:50:55 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:52:10 <Nat_aS> Is there any way to do partial refits? 21:52:30 <Nat_aS> and yes the picture __ln__ linked is from XKCD 21:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Nat_aS: for trains, you can click on one or more wagons in the refit gui 21:53:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Nat_aS: for other vehicles, you can only refit the whole vehicle (-chain) 21:54:24 <Nat_aS> The problem is, I want to auto-refit a train that uses tropical boxcars to be all food one way, and maize/fruit the other 21:54:40 <Nat_aS> And I don't think that's possible 21:55:09 <Nat_aS> auto refit half the cars to be food/goods one way, and maize/fruit the other 21:58:26 <NGC3982> Sure. 21:58:32 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:58:41 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 21:58:45 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you cannot do partial refits in orders, but autorefit should look at what is there to load, if you don't refit to a specific cargo (and the vehicle set supports it) 21:59:02 <Nat_aS> Oh!? 21:59:27 <Nat_aS> auto-refit automaticaly refits everything so it can hold the cargo avalable? 22:00:30 <Nat_aS> the auto-refit button is grayed out 22:00:32 <Nat_aS> :c 22:02:48 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:02:50 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:02:54 <Nat_aS> oh, it needs to be explicitly supported by the grf 22:03:03 <Nat_aS> where is the guy who made the tropic set 22:03:15 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:15 <Nat_aS> I must track him down and force him to add this at gunpoint 22:03:41 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that really really ancient? 22:03:45 <Nat_aS> yea 22:03:47 <Nat_aS> but I like it 22:03:52 <Nat_aS> the trains are cool 22:03:59 <Nat_aS> although the carrages are kinda meh 22:04:31 <Eddi|zuHause> you could try to combine it with other sets which have better wagons 22:04:34 <Nat_aS> because they are nonstandard lenghts and are constantly being replaced 22:04:42 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:54 <Nat_aS> then I'd have a long list of vehicles in the depot. 22:06:20 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:08:45 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:48 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:10:54 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:11 <Supercheese> you can add autorefit yourself, but you'd have to decompile, edit NFO, recompile 22:13:38 <Supercheese> batch replacement may or may not work, I think it's a bitmask portion for autorefit 22:13:42 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:16:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:18:17 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:18:31 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't have to do a decompile, you can provide an addon-grf, when you know the vehicle IDs in the GRF itself. (assuming you don't need fancy callbacks or graphical changes) 22:19:47 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:22 <Supercheese> addon grfs are not as good 22:21:29 <Supercheese> you can only load so many grfs at once 22:22:02 <Nat_aS> so how do you decompile a GRF 22:22:08 <Supercheese> grfcodec 22:22:13 <Nat_aS> and what would I have to add to each one? 22:23:43 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C34E1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:23:47 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:42 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:28:26 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 22:29:22 <Supercheese> lemme check 22:29:35 <Supercheese> all trains, yes? 22:30:17 <Nat_aS> yes 22:30:43 <Supercheese> looks like misc flags 22:30:47 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:51 <Supercheese> just a sec, playing a round of war thunder 22:31:07 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:13 <Nat_aS> I was gonna go for a walk anyhow lol 22:32:22 *** adit [~adit@39.211.64.152] has joined #openttd 22:34:14 <Eddi|zuHause> at some point i'll set up a regexp on incoming messages that goes like "s/ *lol$/./" 22:36:36 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 22:45:08 <Supercheese> seems like you'd look for action 0, property 27 22:45:25 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has joined #openttd 22:45:32 <Supercheese> it's a bitmask, so you'd have to add 10 to the current value 22:45:51 <Supercheese> although that presumes refit cost is zero 22:47:04 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 22:47:38 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you must set the refit cost to 0, unless you want to dig deep into the callbacks 22:51:45 *** dell_ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19BAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:29 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:26 *** SkeedR [~Skeed@2.31.248.5] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:22 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15:27 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:16 *** ntx [~ntx@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c027-185.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 23:46:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:46:40 <Nat_aS> and how would a GRF patch work? 23:48:11 *** dell__ [~fanioz@180.246.124.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean an add-on grf? 23:54:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you make a new grf, set the grf override, and then set the properties for the vehicles 23:54:56 <Supercheese> you'd still have to set the bitmasks and stuff, but you could then do it in NML, which would be quite a bit easier 23:55:07 <Eddi|zuHause> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Overriding_vehicles_in_other_NewGRFs 23:55:13 <Supercheese> although you'd have to look at the NFO to figure out the original bitmasks... 23:55:20 <Supercheese> might be a wash 23:55:29 * Nat_aS dosn't understand any of this 23:55:31 <Nat_aS> : c 23:55:38 <Supercheese> which train set is it? 23:55:46 <Nat_aS> Tropic Refurbishment set 23:55:48 <Nat_aS> which is old 23:55:57 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you should read http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial first 23:56:00 <Nat_aS> IDK if the guy who made it is even still around 23:56:39 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> "Tropic Set Adam Kadlubek Feb 13 2005 15:05:54 GMT" 23:58:47 <Nat_aS> yeah 23:59:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it's even older than the DBSetXL :p 23:59:06 <Nat_aS> There is form activity on it as recent as 2011 though 23:59:15 <Nat_aS> still ancient history