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00:05:36 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Lacsap] 00:16:44 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.30.134.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:19:29 <Wolf01> 'night all 00:19:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:23:58 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 01:18:16 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:22:43 <Flygon> Let's all port OpenTTD to C anyway and get it to run on the 32x 01:22:53 <Flygon> We can make 32*32 maps, right? :D 01:25:21 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Lacsap] 01:27:29 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf are you talking about? 01:28:23 <Eddi|zuHause> and if you want "pure C" openttd, download 0.4.5-ish 01:35:25 <skrzyp> it does not rely on language much 01:35:38 <skrzyp> but more on quality code 01:38:38 <glx> language helps a little 01:39:36 <Eddi|zuHause> the pre-C++ code was sprinkled with reimplementing C++ features like polymorphy and virtual methods 01:39:38 *** Jomann [~abchirk@f052207062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:40:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that does really not do code quality any good :p 01:40:33 <glx> yeah full of ugly hack 01:40:50 <Eddi|zuHause> WP macro and stuff *shudder* :p 01:46:44 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@f052021002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2B8.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2B8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 02:01:50 *** glx is now known as Guest4068 02:01:50 *** glx_ [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:01:50 *** glx_ is now known as glx 02:01:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 02:07:52 *** Guest4068 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:09:34 *** Aristide [~quassel@tok69-5-82-235-150-75.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:32:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2B8.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:54:50 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:20:25 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.30.134.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:27:29 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:39 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:34 *** fjb is now known as Guest4075 03:44:35 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:51:27 *** Guest4075 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:07:32 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:19:03 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 04:36:14 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:40:01 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:43:03 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:14:52 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:42:56 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC677E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4F6D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:15:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:37:28 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 07:37:49 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 07:50:03 <andythenorth> o/ 07:50:45 <Taede> moin 07:50:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:16:43 *** lofejndif [~lsqavnbok@rainbowwarrior.torservers.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:47 *** SpComb^__ [terom@zerg.fixme.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:47 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 12:17:11 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:10 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 12:56:25 <peter1139> Some people think that ` is actually a tilde now... :S 12:57:03 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:58:07 <Pikka> some people think a lot of things 13:00:34 <Xaroth|Work> and worse, some people don't think at all 13:02:54 <Pikka> hmm 13:03:13 <Pikka> I've never met anyone who thinks that ` is a tilde, but then I suppose I don't meet many people who use UK keyboards 13:04:26 *** peter1139 [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:32 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 13:07:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 13:11:28 <Eddi|zuHause> everyone knows that you open the console with the ^ key 13:11:53 <Pikka> is ^ a tilde? 13:11:55 <Eddi|zuHause> (which is commonly known as "roof") 13:12:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (or german: "Dach") 13:13:59 <Pikka> I think I'll call it a tilde 13:14:08 <Alberth> good idea :) 13:14:17 <Alberth> or back-tick ` :) 13:14:52 <Pikka> I actually call ` a grave and ^ a caret, even though that's not technically correct. 13:16:47 <Alberth> as long as everybody understands what you mean :) 13:17:09 <Pikka> I'll usually settle for anyone knowing what I mean 13:17:21 <Pikka> myself included 13:17:41 <Alberth> sounds like a useful feature ;) 13:19:38 *** peter1138 [~petern@00013681.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:41 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 13:19:59 <peter1138> apparently i ctrl 13:20:04 <peter1138> ^s'd irssi 13:20:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2B8.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:35:21 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 13:35:25 <Xaroth|Work> useful :P 13:40:58 <peter1138> Also my dog will eat from a fork... o_O 13:41:56 <frosch123> your labrathor? 14:20:04 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:23:29 *** krinn [~krinn@129.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:36 <krinn> hi guys 14:25:29 <krinn> i wonder if one of you be kind to run a savegame provided as he have tons of newgrfs i couldn't fetch from content download. So who have the most bloat openttd there ? 14:26:01 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:55 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:07 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:35:43 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.30.134.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:41:45 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43:57 <fjb> Moin 14:50:01 <krinn> hi and bye fjb :) 14:50:26 *** krinn [~krinn@129.54.71.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Gone kill my brain on TV] 14:50:41 <lugo> hi krinn , i told you i can send them over :) 14:51:20 <frosch123> you guys have excellent timing :) 14:51:29 <lugo> oops 14:51:32 <lugo> ;) 15:35:11 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 16:08:53 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 16:10:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.190.48] has joined #openttd 16:11:41 <SpComb> frosch123: yeah... and me as well 16:16:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A2B8.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:11 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:27:12 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:22 *** Starlight [~chatzilla@80.202.82.148] has joined #openttd 16:34:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:54 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:33 *** Starlight [~chatzilla@80.202.82.148] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]] 16:49:50 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 16:53:21 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 16:55:57 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 16:59:09 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 17:00:07 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:26:19 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Lacsap] 17:33:49 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 17:35:11 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 17:37:12 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 17:41:14 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 17:43:15 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:44:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.190.48] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:46:45 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:51:18 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:04:22 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 18:07:51 <planetmaker> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/9DM6Z6uzq16GG0iqMw8w/ <-- musa doesn't like a license.txt when one specifies explicitly a license in musa.ini? And why does it output the stuff twice? 18:14:50 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )] 18:15:48 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 18:16:11 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 18:22:48 <fjb> Can I somehow limit the argument of a template in C++? template<typename T> where T must inherit from class X. 18:22:50 <Alberth> o/, unfortunately, I know nothing about musa :( 18:23:27 <Alberth> fjb: never read about that, but perhaps in c++11?? 18:24:05 <Alberth> otherwise, just assign it to a pointer of the base class, and it will break on instantiation :p 18:24:15 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:19 <fjb> :P 18:24:46 <Alberth> templates are intended to be checked on instantiation anyway, unlike eg java 18:24:58 <frosch123> fjb: there are a bunch of magical template thingies in boost 18:25:02 <frosch123> which can check such stuff 18:25:08 <fjb> It is not that important, but would have been nice to make it more typesafe. 18:25:26 <Alberth> lol, c++ and type-safe :) 18:25:54 <fjb> frosch123: Thanks, but I try to avoid boost and stl. 18:26:08 <fjb> Alberth: It is way better than C. 18:26:36 <planetmaker> o/ an fjb :) 18:26:52 <fjb> Moin planetmaker 18:27:11 <frosch123> Alberth: good point. fjb: just put a static_cast somwhere in the constructor 18:27:19 <frosch123> static_cast fails if it cannot be resolved on compile time 18:27:31 <fjb> Thank you frosch123 18:29:29 * fjb thinks "The C++ programming language" 2. edition is a bit outdated. 18:31:07 <Alberth> a 17 year old book in computer science? that sounds likely :) 18:31:10 <frosch123> planetmaker: i believe you have to add them via "license =" in the ini 18:31:36 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 18:31:58 <frosch123> check the example.ini 18:32:07 <planetmaker> license = docs/license.txt in my ini 18:32:16 <planetmaker> so not adding it again possibly? 18:32:21 <planetmaker> I'll check 18:32:22 <frosch123> then do not put it onto the command line? 18:32:43 <planetmaker> that looks better 18:33:11 <planetmaker> works nicely :) 18:36:13 <planetmaker> but I guess *that* was what I always stumbled about. Without actually noticing 18:36:15 <planetmaker> darn :) 18:36:24 <fjb> Alberth: It is not my oldest book in computer science still in use. 18:37:09 <Alberth> hi fjb btw, I have older books too :) the Dragon book comes to mind :) 18:37:44 <Alberth> or the sgml standard? :) 18:38:19 <Alberth> although I don't personally use it :) 18:38:45 <__ln___> what advances have there been in computer *science* within the past 17 years? 18:40:20 <Alberth> model-based engineering? 18:40:56 <fjb> Alberth: Yes, the dragon book, but "The Art of Computer Programming" volume 1 is hardly to beat. 18:41:09 <Alberth> true 18:43:03 <frosch123> __ln___: valgrind 18:43:53 <Alberth> making virtual machines like the JVM feasible 18:43:59 <Kjetil> __ln___: We got all there great new portals for sharing scientic information like twitter and snapchat 18:44:07 <Kjetil> s/there/these/ 18:44:22 <frosch123> Kjetil: not sure whether that qualifies as "science" :p 18:45:06 <frosch123> but i guess cloud infrastructure would qualify 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26418 /trunk/src/lang (hungarian.txt simplified_chinese.txt) (2014-03-22 18:45:15 UTC) 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:25 <Kjetil> cloud infrastructure ? That's just a fancy name for a mainframe 18:45:26 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 7 changes by xiangyigao 18:45:27 <DorpsGek> hungarian - 9 changes by Brumi 18:45:47 <frosch123> Kjetil: i am refering to stuff like the chaos monkey 18:45:47 <fjb> frosch123: Cloud is just another name from main frame. 18:49:36 <__ln___> which of the things mentioned are computer *science*? 18:50:54 <Alberth> all of them 18:54:04 <frosch123> just-in-time-compilation is quite an advancement 18:54:18 <frosch123> if you are refering to less technological stuff like algorihtms 18:54:28 <frosch123> they have never been a computer thing 18:54:36 <frosch123> but rather math or physics things 18:58:19 <Alberth> generic parsing technology is in that area 18:59:26 <Alberth> and large scale distributed algorithms for the internet and mobile phone networks 19:06:13 <planetmaker> were there dvcs 17 years ago? 19:06:32 <Kjetil> how is JIT and advancement ? 19:07:06 <planetmaker> that's an exercise for the interested student to find out ^ 19:07:31 <Alberth> it didn't exist 17 years ago? :) 19:07:33 <planetmaker> and ask all those guys in the forums who ask on how to apply a patch :) 19:07:47 <planetmaker> and what to do with it when they have applied ti 19:08:03 <frosch123> i believe the valgrind has completely changed development on the native code level (not java or something) 19:09:15 <frosch123> in fact valgrind is pretty high on the list of things why windows has no chance of survival in the long run 19:09:23 <planetmaker> virtualization might not have been a big thing 17yrs ago either. And has tremendous influence 19:09:44 <planetmaker> frosch123, why? (genuinely interested question) 19:10:23 <frosch123> it's infinitely harder to develop and debug something for windows 19:10:34 <frosch123> compared what you get for free for linux based things 19:10:45 <frosch123> the only thing you can do for windows is c# or maybe java 19:10:55 <planetmaker> that doesn't mean linux will succeed. Or it would have long ago 19:11:04 <frosch123> maybe ms will somewhen drop the native code interface, switch to a linux kernal and only do c# 19:11:27 <Alberth> planetmaker: unix exists longer than windows :) 19:11:31 <planetmaker> does valgrind work for android or iOS? 19:11:55 <frosch123> planetmaker: i think it is only a matter of time till apply drops their own unix variant for switching to a linux kernel 19:12:19 <planetmaker> Alberth, yes. And thus I don't quite get the argument "compiling / debuggin on windows is more difficult, thus windows will die" 19:12:24 <frosch123> there is just no economical advantage in developing your own kernel 19:12:26 <Alberth> frosch123: the bsd stuff is fine too 19:12:28 <frosch123> cmopared to using linux 19:12:43 <frosch123> s/apply/apple/ 19:13:08 <fjb> Virtualization is really old: VM/CMS 19:15:38 <Alberth> planetmaker: neither do i, but so far unix is more flexible in its operation than windows. and no matter what, as company you cannot compete against all that free developer time in open source 19:16:27 <planetmaker> most core developers and contributors are also employed by companies who take an interest in linux' success 19:16:37 <planetmaker> who make their living with that 19:16:41 <fjb> Alberth: They compete in the marketing area. 19:17:09 <frosch123> planetmaker: and, does any of those companies put the pinguin on their front page? 19:17:17 <frosch123> the kernel is not something you show to your customers 19:17:28 <frosch123> it's just something that needs to be done as cheap as possible 19:17:36 <frosch123> then you can add your own fancy stuff on top of it 19:17:41 <Alberth> it has a "intel inside" sticker :p 19:18:11 <Phreeze> 21 points in kicktipp so far, wooooooooohooooooooooo 19:18:43 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-112-164.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:56 <planetmaker> ok, right, there's no penguin anywhere on the major distribution sites :) 19:20:14 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [Verlassend] 19:20:19 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:20:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 19:20:23 <frosch123> alt+w :p 19:20:35 <Alberth> no need to get that scared :p 19:20:40 <frosch123> or ctrl+w ? 19:20:46 <planetmaker> ctrl+w :P 19:20:48 <frosch123> i actually have no idea, only my hands know 19:21:11 <planetmaker> I even added that shortcut to OpenTTD ;) 19:21:21 <frosch123> where? 19:21:29 <frosch123> do we have tabs in ottd? 19:21:32 <planetmaker> when you're playing it'll bring you back to main menu 19:21:44 <planetmaker> ctrl+w means 'close current window / tab' 19:21:55 <Alberth> frosch123: the station window, and the vehicle have sort-of tabs 19:21:59 <planetmaker> ctrl+q means 'close current programme' 19:22:10 <planetmaker> thus will quit Openttd altogether 19:22:50 <Kjetil> To bad valgrind is not supported on all architectures 19:23:08 <frosch123> that's what i was refering to 19:23:58 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-65-172.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:05 <planetmaker> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/valgrind <-- supported on quite a few architectures 19:24:17 <planetmaker> arm, i386, x64, ppc 19:24:54 <Kjetil> In contrast to linux which runs on 25+ archs 19:25:48 <frosch123> i don't think debian supports all those 25 :p 19:26:15 <planetmaker> [alpha] [amd64] [arm] [arm64] [armel] [armhf] [avr32] [hppa] [hurd-i386] [i386] [ia64] [kfreebsd-amd64] [kfreebsd-i386] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [powerpcspe] [ppc64] [s390] [s390x] [sh4] [sparc] [sparc64] [x32] <-- for libpng 19:27:18 <planetmaker> hm, no, I lied 19:27:30 <planetmaker> only 13/25 19:28:00 <rubidium> still it's probably the one which supports most architectures 19:29:04 <Alberth> netbsd will win :) 19:32:12 <Phreeze> all you need is windows ;) 19:32:26 <Phreeze> if it's not for webservers or so .. 19:34:14 <planetmaker> Phreeze, surprisingly one doesn't really need it 19:34:39 <Phreeze> in our business, we need it 19:34:57 <Phreeze> we even need IE .... 19:34:58 <planetmaker> I'm usually way too lazy to start windows for *whatever*. The only cases I really need it, at work, suffices to use a VM to run excel or word or powerpoint 19:34:59 <Phreeze> that sucks more ;) 19:35:15 <planetmaker> and some lab computers. But those are not my machines 19:35:16 <Phreeze> *having to use IE sucks more 19:35:37 <Phreeze> we use lotus domino doc as a document management system 19:35:37 <planetmaker> though I'm even responsible for some of those... 19:35:44 <Phreeze> this is hell on earth 19:36:01 <planetmaker> sounds pre-historic :P 19:36:08 <frosch123> lotus does still exist? 19:36:19 <rubidium> planetmaker: that list for libpng only contains 12 architectures (based on the list of Linux supported architectures on wikipedia) 19:36:28 <frosch123> i was already surprised 10 years ago, that it still existed 19:36:57 <Phreeze> oh yeah.... 19:37:07 <Phreeze> lotus is the greatest <insert random rant here> on earth 19:37:21 <Phreeze> we are migrating from win xp + lotus 6.5 to win7 + lotus 8 19:37:34 <Phreeze> lotus 8 looks cool enough, is much faster, but still the shiiihaaaaddd 19:37:54 <Phreeze> lotus doc manager doesnt even suppoert win7, support was too dumb to fix bugs for office 2007 19:37:58 <planetmaker> rubidium, I counted on debian website? 19:38:10 <planetmaker> for package ligpng in wheezy 19:38:14 <planetmaker> *libpng 19:38:15 <Phreeze> it's crashing, it's not saving to the server etc... 19:38:41 <Phreeze> http://www.rail.lu/im/g/20050225_3602.jpg <-------- last Electric loco i have to draw/code :D 19:38:55 <rubidium> planetmaker: but amd64, i386 and x32 are one architecture, so are arm, arm64, armel and armhf and the other flavours of certain architectures 19:39:13 <planetmaker> one can count that way, too, yes 19:39:16 <rubidium> alternatively, one has to say that Linux supports like 40+ architectures 19:39:48 <Alberth> amd64 really doesn't run anything 32 bit :) 19:40:09 <rubidium> having said that, most of the architectures are more or less defunct 19:40:12 <planetmaker> it usually has an emulation layer :P 19:40:19 <Alberth> at least the debian notion of amd64 19:43:10 <rubidium> Alberth: regardless of whether it works, I'm just saying that the 13/25 'ratio' is only because we're comparing apples and pears 19:43:44 <Alberth> fair enough :) 19:44:45 <rubidium> 7/25 would be fairer with respect to supported "architectures" (= released in stable) 19:45:35 <rubidium> having said that, most of the architectures Linux supports are more or less extinct 19:52:11 <Alberth> "have become exotic" :) 19:52:47 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-134-180.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:17:37 <Phreeze> hm..is there an option to tell pageant to add or remember my added keys automatically ? 20:20:04 <valhallasw> Phreeze: pass them as parameter 20:20:53 <V453000> how? 20:22:20 <valhallasw> create a shortcut to "c:\path\to\pageant\pageant.exe" "c:\path\to\your\id_rsa.ppk" "someotherfile.ppk" etc. 20:31:03 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-134-180.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:39 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 20:51:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.190.48] has joined #openttd 20:58:25 <Phreeze> k nice 20:58:35 <Phreeze> but still have to enter the PW then i think ? 20:59:59 <planetmaker> if your key has a PW, yes. 21:00:27 <frosch123> pw for keys is optional 21:01:07 <frosch123> the key provides the secuity 21:01:20 <frosch123> pw is only in case of random humans may access the physical machine 21:01:43 <Phreeze> if i add the key in pageant, i have to enter a PW !? 21:01:48 <Phreeze> no pw, no adding the key ? 21:01:51 <Phreeze> never tried 21:01:51 <frosch123> (assuming they won't be able to copy the private key to a different machine) 21:05:08 <Phreeze> usually a private key can't be used without a pw 21:05:53 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:06:20 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:06:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:13:07 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:44 <Alberth> if you store your private keys encrypted, indeed 21:15:03 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:26:47 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-70-207.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36:44 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:01 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-134-180.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:06:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:12:42 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:11 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:26:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BCC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:39:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:45:37 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-57-143.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:51:53 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:06 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:55 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-4744.vo.lu] has quit [] 23:27:30 <Eddi|zuHause> if you don't secure your private key with a passphrase, you probably didn't get the point of a key 23:30:00 <frosch123> why? 23:30:59 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:31:22 <frosch123> without passphrase you authenticate the machine, rather than the user 23:44:13 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit []