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10:16:03 <hanziQ> nope 10:16:08 <hanziQ> !players 10:16:11 <PublicServer> hanziQ: Client 396 is Spike, a spectator 10:28:46 <kriokam> play? 10:29:59 <kriokam> !password 10:29:59 <PublicServer> kriokam: pouted 10:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 10:30:14 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 10:30:58 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 10:31:01 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:35:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 10:41:58 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi. 10:42:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hello 10:42:23 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 10:42:28 <Vitus> !dl win32 10:42:28 <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win32.zip 10:42:41 <Vitus> !players 10:42:45 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 396 is Spike, a spectator 10:42:45 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 398 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 10:42:45 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 400 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 10:43:01 <PublicServer> <Spike> Combuster: seems slh01 is having alot of traffixc on 1 line 10:43:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> seeing that 1 train wanting to go NW has been standing there for a VERY long time 10:43:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> eh 10:43:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> NE 10:43:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> train 441 10:43:42 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I just moved a bit of SL03s traffic to SL01 10:44:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> but that piece of track is pretty much congested 10:44:31 <Vitus> !password 10:44:31 <PublicServer> Vitus: quiver 10:44:57 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 10:45:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:45:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Vitus 10:45:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> It looks like BBH03-factory needs an additional line... 10:50:44 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> can i do on this stage? connect industries as in the previous game, or something else? 10:50:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000376EC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000376EC.png 10:51:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> There are some industries to be connected, yes 10:57:35 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 11:03:55 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:03:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:05:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007A0F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007A0F.png 11:06:47 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> 'industries served' in !! MESSAGE BOARD!! - i got to update, if connected? 11:08:44 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 11:09:17 <fmauneko> Meow 11:09:20 <fmauneko> !playercount 11:09:20 <PublicServer> fmauneko: Number of players: 4 11:09:24 *** fmauneko is now known as fmauNeko 11:10:27 <fmauNeko> !password 11:10:27 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: jigsaw 11:10:42 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 11:10:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 11:20:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E48B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E48B.png 11:21:02 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> do we transport diamonds? 11:28:28 <fmauNeko> Nope 11:28:29 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 11:30:29 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 11:33:57 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 11:35:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 11:36:18 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 11:38:39 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, that seems normal, trains on the ML have priority 11:39:43 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> join before split 11:40:03 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 11:40:07 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ohh... forgot 11:40:19 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> forget* 11:41:30 *** Combuster has quit IRC 11:41:34 <VVG> hello 11:43:24 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 11:48:10 *** hanziQ has quit IRC 11:50:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003A191: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003A191.png 11:55:18 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators 11:56:54 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 12:00:05 <VVG> !password 12:00:05 <PublicServer> VVG: depart 12:00:18 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 12:02:23 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 12:05:32 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 12:05:38 <PublicServer> *** VVG has joined spectators 12:05:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003115D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003115D.png 12:09:02 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 12:09:05 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 12:15:01 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037589: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037589.png 12:31:47 <HanziQ> !password 12:31:47 <PublicServer> HanziQ: banded 12:32:18 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 12:32:29 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 12:32:46 <fmauNeko> Waht 12:32:57 <fmauNeko> !password 12:32:57 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: banded 12:33:08 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 12:35:18 <PublicServer> *** Aali joined the game 12:35:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003779E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003779E.png 12:37:10 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 12:43:04 <PublicServer> *** Aali has left the game (connection lost) 12:45:27 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 12:45:43 <PublicServer> *** Aali joined the game 12:48:48 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 12:50:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 12:51:15 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 12:52:22 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 12:53:41 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 12:57:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ok, first jam 12:57:29 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where? 12:57:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> SLH01 12:57:53 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> where i rebuilded? 12:58:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> They are queueing up for the ML 12:58:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> its full 12:58:21 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 12:58:30 <slaca> !password 12:58:30 <PublicServer> slaca: brunch 12:58:50 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 12:59:02 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> and how to solve this problem? 12:59:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> People against building a third line? 13:01:15 <[com]buster> ...no response... :/ 13:02:26 <PublicServer> <slaca> jam 13:02:38 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Tell us something new... 13:05:04 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 13:05:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036B8E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036B8E.png 13:06:24 <PublicServer> *** Aali has left the game (leaving) 13:18:40 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 13:20:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00036F7F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00036F7F.png 13:22:20 *** bothie has quit IRC 13:22:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> try harder? :) 13:22:41 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =) 13:22:46 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> see 13:32:41 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Jam in the opposite direction 13:34:14 *** bothie has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:06 *** theRelentless has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:21 <theRelentless> !password 13:35:22 <PublicServer> theRelentless: mutest 13:35:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034FBC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034FBC.png 13:40:46 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 13:40:53 *** theRelentless has quit IRC 13:42:37 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 13:44:25 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 13:44:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Who was that? 13:49:16 <PublicServer> <Combuster> kriokamera? 13:49:28 <PublicServer> <Combuster> why are you intentionally crashing trains? 13:50:05 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 13:50:05 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 13:50:17 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> who? 13:50:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Why did you make those trains crash? 13:50:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> *you* 13:50:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C389: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C389.png 13:51:08 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i didn't 13:51:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> The logs don't lie, unfortunately 13:51:23 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> say, where 13:51:44 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> aah 13:51:47 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> those 13:52:05 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> little experiment 13:53:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> that still doesn't answer the question "why" 13:53:57 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (connection lost) 13:54:26 <kriokam> !password 13:54:26 <PublicServer> kriokam: rosier 13:54:43 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 13:55:08 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i wanted to know, will they crash 13:55:14 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> or not. 13:55:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> now i know 13:55:33 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 13:55:45 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> is it illegal? 13:56:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Most of the problem is caused by you *behaving* illegal... 13:57:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Crashing some trains is not a problem 13:57:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> lying about it is 13:57:18 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> sorry, i forgot 13:58:13 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 13:58:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> It's forgiven, just don't try to be sneaky again. 13:59:37 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i thought you are talking about trains on line 14:00:19 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> sorry again 14:00:29 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 14:03:07 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 14:05:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003790D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003790D.png 14:06:07 <Darksecond> !clients 14:06:30 <Vitus> Try !players 14:06:35 <Darksecond> !players 14:06:39 <PublicServer> Darksecond: Client 423 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 14:06:39 <PublicServer> Darksecond: Client 406 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 14:06:39 <PublicServer> Darksecond: Client 425 (Orange) is Hippidy, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 14:06:39 <PublicServer> Darksecond: Client 412 (Orange) is fmauNeko, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 14:06:39 <PublicServer> Darksecond: Client 408 is VVG, a spectator 14:07:36 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 14:08:59 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 14:10:20 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (connection lost) 14:14:44 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 14:14:48 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 14:17:27 *** slaca has quit IRC 14:20:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028F29: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028F29.png 14:23:05 *** Zuu has quit IRC 14:23:32 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 14:23:32 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 14:35:04 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 14:35:19 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 14:35:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A125: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A125.png 14:47:20 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 14:50:17 *** welterde has quit IRC 14:50:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BB2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002BB2D.png 14:51:38 *** uliko has quit IRC 14:51:38 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 14:57:20 *** uliko has joined #openttdcoop 15:02:40 <HanziQ> !players 15:02:44 <PublicServer> HanziQ: Client 423 (Orange) is kriokamera, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 15:02:44 <PublicServer> HanziQ: Client 406 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 15:02:44 <PublicServer> HanziQ: Client 408 is VVG, a spectator 15:02:45 <HanziQ> !password 15:02:45 <PublicServer> HanziQ: stalls 15:03:24 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 15:04:36 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators 15:04:44 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> wtf? 15:04:59 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ? 15:05:02 <PublicServer> <Combuster> not f**k, spectators 15:05:05 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> why Last Human Outpost Watter Supply has so high production? 15:05:33 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> oh 15:05:36 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it's been in use for 200 years? 15:05:37 *** welterde has quit IRC 15:05:39 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> really 15:05:39 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> h 15:05:42 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hm 15:05:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030941: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00030941.png 15:05:56 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I've seen old coal mines do better 15:06:29 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 15:06:29 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:06:34 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 15:06:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> still working? 15:07:04 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> trying to make 4-3 merge at !proper... 15:07:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I don't think that'll be fixed in the time I can stick around 15:08:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> V453000, Spike, care to help? 15:08:20 <V453000> ? 15:08:39 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Someone wants to fix something big but there's noone to watch 15:09:27 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> no, i'll wait 15:10:15 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ok 15:10:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> well then ,Cya guys 15:10:25 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> bye 15:11:10 <V453000> hm ok 15:11:11 <V453000> :) 15:15:26 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:22 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:22 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 15:52:28 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 15:55:44 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (connection lost) 16:01:46 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 16:03:04 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 16:03:55 *** kriokam has quit IRC 16:04:31 *** kriokam has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:30 *** Paltala has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:31 <Paltala> !password 16:06:31 <PublicServer> Paltala: toucan 16:06:45 <PublicServer> *** Paltala joined the game 16:08:43 *** Fuco has quit IRC 16:10:40 <PublicServer> *** Paltala has left the game (connection lost) 16:10:43 *** Paltala has quit IRC 16:16:42 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 16:20:14 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 16:20:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003CF4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003CF4.png 16:29:23 *** roboboy has quit IRC 16:32:57 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 16:43:47 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:59 <fmauneko> !playercount 16:43:59 <PublicServer> fmauneko: Number of players: 3 16:44:14 <fmauneko> !password 16:44:14 <PublicServer> fmauneko: misted 16:44:30 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 16:45:34 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 17:03:37 <Vinnie> @quickstart 17:03:39 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 17:05:53 <Vinnie> !dl win32 17:05:53 <PublicServer> Vinnie: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win32.zip 17:10:04 <Vinnie> !password 17:10:04 <PublicServer> Vinnie: glands 17:10:43 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 17:10:57 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 17:11:16 *** kriokam has joined #openttdcoop 17:11:20 <kriokam> !password 17:11:20 <PublicServer> kriokam: glands 17:11:34 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 17:12:34 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:13:55 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:14:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello all 17:14:03 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi 17:17:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> loks nice 17:17:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks 17:21:07 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (connection lost) 17:21:53 <kriokam> !password 17:21:53 <PublicServer> kriokam: unrest 17:22:37 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (connection lost) 17:22:37 *** kriokam has quit IRC 17:23:32 *** kriokam_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:23:53 <kriokam_> !password 17:23:53 <PublicServer> kriokam_: unrest 17:24:11 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera #1 joined the game 17:36:47 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu joined the game 17:40:38 <PublicServer> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 17:41:15 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 17:42:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who did that math? 17:46:28 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:56:28 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera #1 has left the game (connection lost) 17:56:53 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 17:58:31 *** kriokam has joined #openttdcoop 18:04:13 *** kriokam_ has quit IRC 18:04:16 <Eoin> !password 18:04:16 <PublicServer> Eoin: waylay 18:04:25 <kriokam> yeah 18:04:30 <PublicServer> *** Eoin joined the game 18:04:54 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:04:57 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 18:05:03 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hi 18:05:15 <PublicServer> <Eoin> hi 18:05:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030946: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00030946.png 18:10:16 <VVG> evening 18:10:20 <VVG> !password 18:10:20 <PublicServer> VVG: hatted 18:10:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hello 18:10:36 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 18:11:03 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 18:11:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 18:16:51 *** Seppel has joined #openttdcoop 18:17:18 <Vitus> !password 18:17:18 <PublicServer> Vitus: hatted 18:17:43 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 18:17:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 18:17:55 <PublicServer> <VVG> who is working around bbh03? 18:18:02 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 18:18:06 <PublicServer> <VVG> hey 18:18:09 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i am 18:18:18 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> could you please help me? 18:18:33 <PublicServer> <VVG> let's try 18:18:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> are you going for the same kind of joiner as at bbh02? 18:18:53 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i trying make smthing like at BBH02 18:18:57 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =) yes 18:19:00 <PublicServer> *** Eoin has left the game (leaving) 18:19:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> let's try from the other side, there is a natural border in the south 18:19:43 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes 18:20:08 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:20:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003155D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003155D.png 18:20:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, I'll probably rebuild the top part of BBH03 18:21:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The 3->2 balancer is really strange right now :) 18:21:16 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah 18:21:21 <PublicServer> <VVG> though, the proper joiner is needed 1st i think 18:21:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I thought you're working on that right now 18:21:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> kinda 18:22:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 18:22:08 <PublicServer> <VVG> one more join needed 18:22:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll build the top part, that shouldn't take long 18:23:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> now, we other line can be build 18:23:32 <PublicServer> <VVG> by just expanding into the north 18:23:47 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes 18:23:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> wait 18:23:59 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ? 18:24:26 <PublicServer> <VVG> or can they? 18:25:32 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hm, i didn't understood you completely 18:25:38 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> who 'they'? 18:26:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm kinda lost, either i done it wrong or lost the trail of what i had in mind at start 18:26:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright, the top balancer is done 18:26:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Looks OK now 18:26:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, maybe a bit longer prios 18:27:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> where? 18:28:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, 4->3 is huge 18:28:38 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 18:29:07 <PublicServer> <VVG> there, this is what i had in mind 18:29:16 <PublicServer> <VVG> and got lost half the way 18:30:01 <fmauneko> moar 18:30:14 <fmauneko> !password 18:30:14 <PublicServer> fmauneko: peaces 18:30:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> nah, i just done it wrong :( 18:30:31 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 18:30:56 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 18:31:44 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> sorry, i strong need afk 18:32:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> np 18:32:47 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 18:33:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG, that looks strange right now. What kind of merger do you want to build? 18:33:45 <PublicServer> <VVG> 4->3 18:34:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I know that, but it's like everything-to-everything or? 18:34:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> actually, not like i wanted to tbuild it, just help a bit krio, since he was trying to make it 18:34:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> but got lost half the way, intrigued, how come i got lost and started trying diff things ;p 18:34:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, maybe I could make it. I'm fairly good at building BBH02-like balancers :P 18:35:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> i think i got it figured by now :) 18:35:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright 18:35:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We'll have to remove this ugly 2->2 18:35:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000376FC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000376FC.png 18:36:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> though, the south part is what i did, north is krio's, and i did't really pay enough attention to his works 18:36:07 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah, 18:36:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> but should be easy anyway 18:36:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah 18:36:34 <thgergo> !password 18:36:34 <PublicServer> thgergo: blimps 18:36:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll try to do something with the jams for now 18:36:40 <PublicServer> <VVG> gotta grab my fix of coffee, brb 18:36:50 <PublicServer> *** thgergo joined the game 18:36:52 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hello 18:36:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 18:37:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hai thgergo 18:37:35 <PublicServer> <thgergo> so the game is getting expanded:) 18:40:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> back 18:40:36 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 18:40:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> q 18:41:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: I removed the jams, feel free to build the balancer now 18:43:23 *** Eoin has quit IRC 18:50:44 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 18:50:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FD50: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FD50.png 18:52:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, rather presignal split 18:52:32 <PublicServer> <VVG> where? 18:52:44 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 18:53:19 <Vitus> VVG: The last line of the merge (which you destroyed) could have been used as split for the first line 18:53:33 <Vitus> !password 18:53:33 <PublicServer> Vitus: sprier 18:53:50 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i'm back 18:53:54 <Vitus> Hey 18:53:57 <PublicServer> <VVG> you sure? 18:54:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> wb 18:54:03 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 18:55:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Something like this :) 18:56:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> done 18:56:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> nice 18:56:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Looks OK 18:57:15 <PublicServer> <VVG> some balancing of tracks after the join needed i think, they seem to be too unequal 18:57:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah, I think it's OK 18:57:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Unless it jams ML it's OK 18:58:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> it shouldn't jam ml 18:59:43 <PublicServer> <VVG> still, trains prefer outside lane 19:00:01 *** themroc-- has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> One line will always be prefered 19:00:35 *** themroc has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> i mean, they prefer outside lane a bit too much :) 19:00:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Then remove some signals 19:01:12 *** Zuu has quit IRC 19:01:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 19:03:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> btw VVG, have you seen SLH06? I tried to make it ultra compact and think it was somehow successful :) 19:03:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah, seen it, liked it :) 19:03:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :) 19:04:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> very nice job of cramping it all together with such a small footprint :) 19:05:31 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 19:05:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E730: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E730.png 19:07:22 <PublicServer> <thgergo> eh 19:07:25 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> but... 19:07:35 <PublicServer> <VVG> no, does not seem to be a joke 19:07:44 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> will do 19:07:44 <PublicServer> <thgergo> slh2? 19:07:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, SLH02 19:08:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, seems like we have too much rubber and copper :P 19:08:47 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yeah humans like weapons:P 19:08:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> FPP and Refinery aren't as busy as War Factory 19:09:47 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> station type for rubber load?.. 19:10:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You mean ISR station? 19:10:08 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yeah 19:10:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> why aren't we doing diamonds? 19:10:17 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 19:10:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, something like oil facilities 19:10:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't ask me :P 19:10:43 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> all the same 19:12:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> we need moar fruits and maize 19:12:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And oil 19:13:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Here we go :) 19:14:27 <PublicServer> <VVG> Vitus, check bbh03 merger please 19:14:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes? 19:15:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> i did smal rebuild there, is it better? 19:15:17 <PublicServer> <VVG> no need for combos now 19:15:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't think it's going to change much, but yes. It's OK :) 19:17:26 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> my computer is so slooow 19:17:32 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> hate it 19:18:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> thgergo, check train 326 19:18:42 <PublicServer> <thgergo> eh::D 19:19:19 <PublicServer> <thgergo> thanks for spotting it 19:19:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :) 19:20:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> fmauNeko, got a while? 19:20:11 <PublicServer> <thgergo> why we got 3 engines per trains? 19:20:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Because of cargo weight multiplier and slope steepness 19:20:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> x9 and 5% 19:20:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> eh? 19:20:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B06D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B06D.png 19:21:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Part of scenario, I've heard :P 19:22:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> fmauNeko? 19:22:36 <V453000> well scenario should have been hard especially in mountains ... 19:25:25 <slaca> !password 19:25:25 <PublicServer> slaca: penned 19:25:38 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 19:25:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 19:25:54 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 19:25:58 <VVG> hm 19:25:59 <PublicServer> <slaca> hi 19:26:02 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ? 19:26:12 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Vitus: sorry, was afk : 19:26:15 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :p 19:26:20 <VVG> why publicserver didn't transcribe my question "how come blabla" into irc? 19:26:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright, I just got one note about the overflow 19:26:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: Are you sure it wasn't team chat? 19:26:42 <hylje> VVG: are you chatting to all or to team? 19:27:04 <VVG> console says ALL 19:27:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> fmauNeko: Look !here 19:27:07 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yep ? :p 19:27:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You either use PBS and leave gap 19:27:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Like this 19:27:22 <PublicServer> <thgergo> slh 02 is getting stressed too 19:27:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or no PBS and exit signal 19:27:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Like this: 19:28:03 <VVG> PS published a link to a new screenshot about same time i asked that question in game chat 19:28:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Better :) 19:28:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 19:28:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Thanks. Actually, I don't know why I put PBS 19:28:41 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I usually try to avoid it 19:29:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ok, path signals were default in adv. settings. 19:29:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> PBS is awesome for two things: prio over bridge and penalty :P 19:29:31 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 19:30:25 *** Zuu has quit IRC 19:31:01 <VVG> it also saves space! 19:33:12 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 19:35:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003377D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003377D.png 19:37:30 <Vitus> @coopstats 19:37:30 <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html 19:37:51 <PublicServer> <thgergo> copper rubber drop needs even a 4th line:S 19:39:31 <PublicServer> <thgergo> trains are clogging up in slh03 19:40:43 <PublicServer> <thgergo> an extra line is requied from BBH02 towar factory 19:43:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, we could build a bypass from SLH03 to BBH03 for now 19:44:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Redoing the balancer at BBH02 might be little bit harder 19:44:14 <PublicServer> *** slaca has joined company #1 19:44:33 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 19:44:52 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well BBH02 doesnt even need a big balancer even 19:45:07 <PublicServer> <thgergo> cause no trains actually using it if we add an extra line 19:45:40 <PublicServer> <thgergo> cause trains dont use "!this" 19:45:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, yes 19:48:12 <PublicServer> <thgergo> then i`ll start adding the extra line from the war factory 19:48:45 <PublicServer> <thgergo> but its rather complex 19:50:16 <PublicServer> <thgergo> only SLH03 needs that extra line badly now 19:50:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000351AF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000351AF.png 19:51:19 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 19:51:20 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> what is a !mass neoutraliser? 19:51:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just a huge PF trap :P 19:51:44 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> it's witchcraft... 19:51:49 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> PF? 19:51:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Pathfinder 19:52:14 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> witchtrap? is there something in wiki? 19:52:38 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> no... witchcraft 19:52:41 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> magic 19:52:56 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ooh 19:52:59 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> magic 19:53:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It's a trap for witches :p 19:53:03 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> :) 19:53:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> magic! 19:53:33 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =) 19:53:56 <Vitus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g 19:53:57 <Webster> Title: YouTube - She's a witch!‎ (at www.youtube.com) 19:55:03 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> connect anything? 19:55:29 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> no. 19:55:32 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =( 19:56:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There, funded some industries for you :P 19:56:29 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yee! =)) 19:59:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Who's building Monkey Outpost no.136? :) 19:59:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i am 19:59:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Not me 19:59:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Did you know that if you hold down CTRL key while dragging signals, it's going to signal whole line up to first junction? 20:00:10 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> O_o 20:00:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Orly 20:00:16 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> no 20:00:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> ? 20:00:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Magic? :P 20:00:53 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes, magic 20:00:56 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> why not just build a roro? 20:00:56 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> This is madness ! 20:01:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey, at least something that looks strange :P 20:01:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Ro-ro is boring! 20:01:44 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> true.. but it's easier :) 20:01:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Shhh 20:01:48 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:50 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> =) 20:02:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Think it's going to work w/o the trap 20:02:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We can try 20:02:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Release the trains! 20:03:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Fruit? 20:03:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I thought it's oil station :P 20:03:38 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> FCK 20:03:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 20:03:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> MOAR FRUIT 20:05:36 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i like fruits 20:05:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026AD3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00026AD3.png 20:06:37 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> initiate drum roll 20:07:09 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hanziQ feeders are not preferred 20:07:22 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well he is not here 20:07:28 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> maybe build separate stration? 20:07:34 <PublicServer> <thgergo> indeed 20:08:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Just do like in Soviet Russia 20:08:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Walk the station :p 20:08:25 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> it isn't beautiful 20:08:34 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> moar stations! 20:08:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> moar 20:08:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Moar? 20:08:55 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> It's "more"! 20:09:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You wanted fruit, right? :P 20:09:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ah, it have been moved to SLH06 20:09:11 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> So another station will be okay 20:09:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Enjoy MOAR fruit 20:10:01 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> fruit! 20:10:04 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> more* 20:13:03 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> NICE!! 20:13:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What? 20:13:30 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ctrs+signals is AWESOME! 20:13:42 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> ^_^ 20:13:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 20:14:52 <VVG> i remember a time when i totally avoided diagonals becuase it was such a pain to place signals there, without the ctrl key 20:15:30 <PublicServer> <thgergo> god old plain TTD days? 20:16:35 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i played original TT in my childhood 20:16:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I played only TTD.. but I don't think I used signals much :D 20:17:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mostly point-to-point or passing places :P 20:17:19 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> yes, it is 20:18:10 <VVG> not sure. may be some early ottd, because when i played actual ttd it wwasn't for long and was too awesome to care about such shortcomings :) 20:19:27 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I played original TT in my childhood too 20:19:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Later, I discovered TTDPatch 20:19:42 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And then OpenTTD :p 20:20:06 <PublicServer> <thgergo> yeah patch was also great 20:20:09 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> i found open in 2008 20:20:15 <PublicServer> <thgergo> but lacks of any multiplayer still 20:20:24 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> in russian community 20:20:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I found OpenTTD in its early days 20:20:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The first one I played was around 0.2 as far as I remember 20:20:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022AE0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00022AE0.png 20:21:03 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I have firstly played 0.3.6 20:21:15 <PublicServer> <thgergo> on multiplayer 20:21:58 *** KyleS_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:22:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, I haven't really played TTDP and discovered OTTD in version 0.7.x I think 20:22:09 <VVG> i wonder, did 0.3.6 had ctrl+click signals placing? 20:22:21 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Don't remember :p 20:22:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You can try it, I'm pretty sure it's available somewhere :P 20:22:28 <KyleS_> !password 20:22:28 <PublicServer> KyleS_: taxing 20:22:32 <VVG> nah 20:22:42 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But I just checked, the binaries are still available on the official binaries server :p 20:22:42 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 20:23:11 <fmauneko> check http://binaries.openttd.org/binaries/releases/ :p 20:24:00 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There even was a BeOS binary :p 20:24:10 <KyleS_> :o 20:29:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> kriokamera, don't forget to remove useless signs caused by rebuild :P 20:29:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just for next time :) 20:29:42 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> afk 20:29:45 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> okay 20:29:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> While we're at it, CTRL+click also removes sign 20:30:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Very useful 20:30:16 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> thanks 20:30:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :) 20:30:37 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> SLH06 sometimes blocks the mainline 20:30:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup, noticed that too 20:32:43 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 20:32:43 <VVG> !password 20:32:43 <PublicServer> VVG: taxing 20:32:55 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 20:33:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Welcome back :P 20:33:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> ty 20:35:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> is that 3rd line from bbh03 to 02 really needed? 20:35:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> for now doesn't seem like it 20:35:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> seems to flow? :) 20:35:42 <PublicServer> <thgergo> trains are clogged up at SLH3 very badly 20:35:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> From time to time 20:35:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000378FF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000378FF.png 20:35:56 <PublicServer> <VVG> they are clogged in another direction there :) 20:36:17 <PublicServer> <thgergo> indeed but if one makes one direction the other is requied also 20:36:26 <PublicServer> <Spike> oh 20:36:40 <PublicServer> <thgergo> if we dont do that the clogging simply move away 20:37:32 <PublicServer> <thgergo> the problem is without tha 4th lane at the war factory trains will jam at BBH03 merger 20:37:55 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and I think we will have even more trains on it isnt it? 20:38:16 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> it will be hard to remerge 20:38:19 <PublicServer> <thgergo> indeed 20:38:39 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> really hard 20:38:48 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and no room for it:P 20:39:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> 4th lane? i don't yet see a need for it 20:39:09 <PublicServer> <thgergo> and even goods pickup doesnt really served 20:39:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> that's what you get for just adding trains to drop.. and not watching pickup :) 20:41:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> so, bbh03-weapons drop will be LLLL_RRRR? 20:41:45 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> if we totally block the traffic on BBH03 to SLH01, remerging will take 3-5 minutes 20:41:54 <PublicServer> <kriokamera> bye, i going sleep 20:41:54 <PublicServer> <thgergo> maybe someday I think, it will be jammed if we add more trains to it 20:41:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Good night 20:42:07 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera has left the game (connection lost) 20:42:10 *** kriokam has quit IRC 20:42:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> thgergo, there's no urgent need for it now. 20:42:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But look, we're at 700 trains right now 20:43:23 <PublicServer> <thgergo> perhaps yes, maybe when we hit the 1000 20:43:42 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 20:43:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey! 20:49:07 *** heffer has quit IRC 20:50:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002BF2E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002BF2E.png 20:51:12 *** slaca has quit IRC 20:51:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm off for tonight 20:51:29 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Cya 20:51:32 <PublicServer> <thgergo> bye 20:51:32 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 20:51:32 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> bye 20:51:34 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 20:56:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> wait 20:56:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'll move bridges down a bit more 20:56:26 <PublicServer> <thgergo> kk 20:56:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> may i say that the TF that has been done at my hub 20:56:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> was COMPLETE overkill 20:56:41 <PublicServer> <Spike> really.. 20:56:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> flatten the whole area.. to lay like... a few piece of tracks 20:57:14 <PublicServer> <thgergo> more track will be in there 20:57:27 <PublicServer> <Spike> mhm... and it's hard to lay those without TF? 20:57:33 <PublicServer> <Spike> since the mountains there were flat 20:58:20 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 20:58:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's not like: Hey i need space... 20:58:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> and then flatten out the whole area 20:58:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> now there is a need to fit those bridges in a gap i made 21:00:18 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 21:01:28 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 21:05:19 *** KyleS_ has quit IRC 21:05:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FF42: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FF42.png 21:09:08 <PublicServer> <VVG> one more exit line needed there :( 21:18:30 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 21:20:32 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 21:20:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FF32: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FF32.png 21:24:39 <PublicServer> <VVG> looks like it will suffice fow low traffic 21:26:30 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 21:27:23 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 21:30:49 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (connection lost) 21:32:24 <PublicServer> <VVG> i connected 3rd line from slh03 to bbh03 21:32:44 <PublicServer> <thgergo> fine the opposite lane is finished by me too 21:32:59 <PublicServer> <thgergo> the jam is getting diminishing 21:35:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000214EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000214EB.png 21:42:41 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 21:43:12 <V453000> !password 21:43:12 <PublicServer> V453000: misers 21:43:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> someone made a forced jam :) 21:43:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:43:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:43:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> hello 21:43:32 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hello 21:43:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi V 21:43:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:43:38 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm back btw 21:43:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Something new? 21:43:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> who is working at bbh02? 21:43:56 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I am 21:43:56 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 21:44:00 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Signed and everything 21:44:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> that 3rd line is fully connected down there 21:44:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Whoa, the balancer at BBH02 is huge :D 21:44:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> nvm anymoe 21:44:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I mean 21:44:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BBH03 21:45:02 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:45:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I guess we could remove the signs about Trident joins now, right? :) 21:46:01 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Yea :( 21:46:26 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah, they were in the way :p 21:46:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, I was worrying about the balancer at BBH02 - without a reason, though :P 21:47:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Good job, Combuster 21:47:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> because I didn't connect the 3rd line to save downstream some issues? 21:48:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm not sure what exactly do you mean now :P 21:49:24 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Because I semi-purposefully made a jam there? 21:49:36 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 21:49:36 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 21:50:35 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Anyway, there's enough space to put a trident join back there :) 21:50:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> not that it's needed atm 21:50:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021AE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00021AE9.png 21:51:10 <PublicServer> <VVG> slh03? i don't see how 21:51:21 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 21:51:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> added an arrow :) 21:52:32 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 21:52:33 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 21:53:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BBH03 looks strange now :P 21:54:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Two massive balancers on one side 21:54:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And next to nothing on the other 21:54:56 <PublicServer> * Combuster sees some inspiration for a 3-level balancer... 21:55:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm yes, that would be possible, I think :) 21:56:34 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 21:57:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> thre is a cl issue at !cl and i don't have any ideas how to fix it 21:58:31 <PublicServer> <Combuster> really? 21:58:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Fixed :) 21:58:44 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I saw a CL3, if that's what you mean? 21:58:52 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's not a proper fix :) 21:58:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nope, it was slow corner indeed 21:59:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> the gap there was already over the limit :) 21:59:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But it's SL 22:01:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> you know when ppl go overkill when they use math you don't do from the top of your hard to play a game 22:01:16 <PublicServer> <Spike> head* 22:01:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 22:01:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I was just interested how zig-zags work 22:01:55 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 22:02:38 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm 22:02:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> hehe 22:03:02 <PublicServer> <thgergo> slh3 is very stressed still:P 22:03:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Thinking about how to split the bridges in two 22:03:26 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Why does a CL3 turn works, but TL3 zigzags don't :/ 22:03:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at math :P 22:03:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's formulae from source code 22:04:32 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 2 curves over 6 halftiles... 22:04:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, three direction changes 22:04:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But the first one isn't counted 22:05:39 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 22:05:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> -_- 22:05:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> there are a ton of problems like that around here 22:05:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00027B3B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00027B3B.png 22:06:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Got idea! 22:06:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damnit 22:06:20 <PublicServer> <Combuster> fail! 22:07:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> no need anymore 22:07:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Something like this could work 22:07:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> (I know, it's not synced :P ) 22:07:50 <PublicServer> <Combuster> apart from the desync... 22:07:50 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 22:08:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't think it matters that much on SL 22:08:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> "it's an sl" (c) :p 22:08:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There's also merge after the bridges anyways 22:08:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> with eol shouldn't matter i think 22:08:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, you don't need eol here 22:09:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Red exit signals have PF penalty of 10000 22:09:42 <PublicServer> <Combuster> *wonders when the CL rules got changed 22:09:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> zigzagging like that used to work... 22:10:06 <PublicServer> <thgergo> like where? 22:10:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, but only when CL=TL 22:10:34 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 22:10:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 22:10:40 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 22:10:45 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> hola 22:10:50 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:10:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 22:11:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> lo 22:11:23 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (connection lost) 22:11:32 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 22:11:34 <[com]buster> Well, I'm off to bed 22:11:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight 22:11:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> gn 22:11:53 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 22:11:59 <Ramsus08191> !password 22:11:59 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: trumps 22:12:08 <Vitus> Good night 22:12:14 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 22:12:16 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hello 22:12:19 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 22:13:19 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 22:13:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> i love how ppl try to hide their bad connections under a bridge 22:13:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hm? 22:13:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:13:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> hide bridges look @ bbh3 22:14:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> that's not how we've learned to built 22:14:18 <PublicServer> <Spike> if i need to sign it... 22:14:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 22:14:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is how the early PSGs were built :p 22:14:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Interesting 3->2 indeed :) 22:15:12 <PublicServer> <VVG> it got low traffic anyway :) 22:15:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC does similar stuff in stations :p 22:15:25 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's low traffic... so i'm allowed to build CL1 stuff 22:15:54 <PublicServer> <Spike> it's still ML 22:16:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It just needs more space under bridges 22:16:26 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well no much room for it 22:16:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You can always move the bridges 22:16:40 <PublicServer> <thgergo> I brothered higher the really used mainline 22:16:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> what's that o_o TF sign is? 22:17:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt that TF high? :) 22:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is obvious even from the present point of view :) 22:18:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> no idea, iirc it was all that plain 22:18:12 <PublicServer> <Spike> vvg It's been TFed 22:18:24 <PublicServer> <Spike> i built the hub to fit in the land as it was 22:18:27 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> bridge genocide! 22:18:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> it was all on lowest level 22:19:03 <PublicServer> <Spike> i barely TFed the area cause i though it was perfect for a hub 22:19:09 <PublicServer> <Spike> even CB didn't TF to make balancers 22:19:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> and well.. i'm known for usually.. well TF tool is on a very easy shortcut... 22:19:58 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 22:20:17 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F52C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002F52C.png 22:21:35 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 22:23:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Think I got it 22:23:32 <PublicServer> <VVG> bbh03? 22:23:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, the balancer under bridges 22:23:56 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> the war factory has a low(ish) goods rating, can I add more trains? 22:25:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I think it should be OK now (the balancer at BBH03), prios and proper waiting spaces are there. 22:26:04 <PublicServer> <VVG> why the need for prios? 22:26:13 <PublicServer> <thgergo> its not a proper mixer 22:27:04 <PublicServer> <thgergo> not all 3 incoming lanes can enter the 2 exit lanes 22:27:24 *** Combuster has quit IRC 22:27:53 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:27:56 <^Spike^> thgergo you can try to fix it.. be sure to equip the TF tool first... 22:28:02 <^Spike^> nothing left of my bbh anyway as i did it 22:28:18 <PublicServer> <thgergo> ? 22:28:19 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 22:28:19 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:30:21 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> is there anyway to fix !this ? 22:30:45 <PublicServer> <VVG> what's wrong with it? 22:31:06 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> the trains almost always pick the outer track even when it is full 22:31:09 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well thats still an ungly balancer thing indeed 22:33:44 <PublicServer> <thgergo> thats just a quick 3 rd line join :D 22:34:05 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it still needs improvements 22:35:08 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it should be ok now 22:35:15 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> ty :) 22:35:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, maybe you could just build 5->2 at the exit, either full balancer or just the half-one :P 22:35:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032738: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032738.png 22:36:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, it's 6->2 actually. But I don't think you can get 3rd line from north through the balancer valley :P 22:36:27 <PublicServer> <thgergo> well it doesnt really matters when the end tracks are only LLRR 22:36:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> and what? the only remnat of the old hub will be a sign? :) 22:37:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This has happened to me many times :P 22:37:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Like in last PSG :) 22:39:31 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (leaving) 22:39:37 *** Ramsus08191 has quit IRC 22:39:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Zebra Battle Base no.79 is missing industry it seems 22:39:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And trains do not have full load 22:41:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Remove them after :) 22:41:48 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> how does it work? 22:42:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The PF trap forces trains to go into depot 22:42:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And the red exit signal keeps them in the depot 22:42:48 <PublicServer> <VVG> you know, you can just place a depot at exit :p 22:43:03 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> I see how, now that it's been changed :) 22:43:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Why cannot I have something special? :D 22:44:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> ied? 22:44:54 <Vitus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device 22:44:55 <Webster> Title: Improvised explosive device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 22:45:27 <VVG> nah 22:45:36 <VVG> trains are still alive after being caught :) 22:45:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Shh 22:45:57 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> zomg! They've been hijacked? 22:46:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> more like IID, improvised imprisonment device :) 22:46:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I want to see if it actually works :P 22:46:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yay! 22:47:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> behold the power of EOL 22:47:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> EOL is nasty thing if the PF cannot find other way to its current target, though :) 22:48:33 <PublicServer> <VVG> seems like a depot is a suitable destination point in all cases 22:48:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nope 22:49:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I can show you simple case where it fails 22:49:06 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> ooh, Penguin Tactics Center Copper Ore Mine is producing 1,665 tonnes of copper ore 22:49:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: Are you watching? :) 22:49:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> was briefly afk 22:50:04 <PublicServer> <VVG> now am back 22:50:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000268A5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000268A5.png 22:51:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Voila 22:51:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> T_T 22:51:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now look: 22:51:51 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:52:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm 22:52:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Worked last time I checked :D 22:52:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup 22:52:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> hm 22:53:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> now i don't get why that trap upthere worked 22:53:05 <V453000> !password 22:53:05 <PublicServer> V453000: redraw 22:53:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> since depot was much farther away than 2way red sig 22:53:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:53:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look what the train sees: 22:53:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's pretty clear which path it'll choose 22:54:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now, in the case below 22:54:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Train sees something like: 22:55:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Only ashes left :P 22:55:52 <PublicServer> <VVG> the wind of our victory will blow them away 22:55:58 <PublicServer> <VVG> soon 22:56:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Indeed 22:56:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> :) 22:56:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There 22:56:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I had a savegame about this kind of problems somewhere on tt-forums 22:56:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You might want to check it 22:56:56 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:56:59 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> or just use PBS :) 22:56:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> how will i find it? 22:57:11 <Vitus> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=129614 22:57:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> well, with proper track layout and signaling those problems may be overcome 22:57:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just note that it doesn't work correctly since... r19896 I think 22:57:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> (the PBS overflows I mean) 22:57:51 <VVG> oh 22:58:18 <VVG> well then, what is the reason to check a savegame showing problems that doesn't work anymore? :) 22:58:20 * Vitus hates r19896. 22:58:25 <Vitus> They mostly work 22:58:28 *** Zuu has quit IRC 22:58:30 <Vitus> Only PBS overflow doesn't 22:58:43 <Vitus> You can fix that by making it presignal overflow, shouldn't change a thing 22:58:44 <VVG> it did before? 22:58:59 <Vitus> Yes, it did. Before r19896 22:59:30 <Vitus> I should note that this only affects trains w/o orders or lost trains 23:00:11 <Vitus> However most SRNWs have train-reverse overflow and thus trains are "lost" 23:01:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: I've tried to understand how PF works in these cases, but I failed. 23:01:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look, for example, !here 23:01:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Try to remove it :P 23:02:06 <PublicServer> <VVG> remove what? 23:02:12 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:02:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> "here 23:02:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And "this" 23:02:54 <PublicServer> <VVG> i just got here 23:02:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Right 23:03:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 23:03:06 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's easy 23:03:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look: 23:03:26 <PublicServer> <VVG> train desn't see eol there, it sees a possibility to make a choice 23:04:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> i explored a bit that setup in last firs game together with Vnumbers 23:04:01 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:04:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, I also think that's the reason why something works and something doesn't :P 23:04:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> However, I have this information is based only on observations, I don't have any proof it really works this way 23:04:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> *w/o have :P 23:05:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> trains pick a possibility to make a choice at next crossing over the eol 23:05:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Again, that's pretty much broken in some cases 23:05:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00030490: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00030490.png 23:06:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Should be there now 23:07:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> eh 23:07:05 <PublicServer> <VVG> check the jam up north there 23:07:09 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I see that 23:07:18 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it caused some missing signals 23:07:33 <PublicServer> <thgergo> it should be fixed now:S 23:08:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: This is because of r19896 23:08:12 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 23:08:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Trains prefer back of oneway signal instead of choice (as you'd say) 23:08:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> why such a sudden change? back signals wasn't a safe point before 23:09:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> which seems logical to me 23:09:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It seems logical to me too, but ask michi_cc. He has different opinion 23:09:51 <Vitus> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3908 23:10:03 <Vitus> caused by http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3803 23:10:49 <V453000> which is just and only retarded building style ... 23:10:59 <V453000> so to fix retarded building style, we have broken PBS 23:11:04 <V453000> isnt that awesome? 23:12:41 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> erm... wtf @ !wtf 23:12:53 <Vitus> Basically, bugfix that causes more problem than it fixes 23:13:02 <V453000> "bugfix" 23:13:14 <PublicServer> <thgergo> signal flood:D 23:13:33 <V453000> when you look at it, trains never consider safe "block" into backwards 2wayPBS 23:13:38 <VVG> that train in last link, why it stays there and not try to go aroud the loop? 23:13:49 <V453000> my last line :p 23:14:08 <Vitus> You mean in FS3803? 23:14:08 <planetmaker> safe = no crash will occur, if a train waits there. 23:14:10 <V453000> if you play with using actually any brain, you never do that 23:14:15 <planetmaker> and hello back :-) 23:14:17 <V453000> hi 23:14:24 <Vitus> Hey 23:14:27 <PublicServer> <thgergo> hi 23:14:28 <VVG> hey 23:14:42 <Vitus> VVG: Because if you look at the station, there's no safe waiting spot 23:14:50 <Vitus> Or, there *shouldn't* be 23:14:53 <V453000> yea 23:15:00 <VVG> will adding two twoway pbs sigs at another side of station help? 23:15:05 <Vitus> Yes 23:15:06 <VVG> in that picture with old setup 23:15:08 <Vitus> That's the point 23:15:14 <V453000> exactly 23:15:20 <VVG> err 23:15:21 <V453000> so you solve only bad building style 23:15:24 <Vitus> If you want to make station two-way, then make it twoway as it should 23:15:25 <V453000> but it all made sense 23:15:54 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 23:15:55 <V453000> planetmaker: some success with SE rails on stable server :p they look nice as everyone often admits :p 23:16:20 <planetmaker> :-) 23:16:28 <Vitus> btw, V.: see r18648 23:16:32 <V453000> CS rails tunnels = utterly no response 23:16:39 <Vitus> That works perfectly and doesn't cause any problems 23:17:08 *** leg3nd has quit IRC 23:17:38 <Vitus> Also mentioned in FS3908 I think 23:18:10 <planetmaker> well, I guess I have to go w/o those tunnels then... :-( 23:18:33 <VVG> wasn't there some reason backside of 2way pbs wasn't made a safepoint in the first place? 23:18:43 <V453000> BK tunnels look nice there and the original too :p 23:18:53 <V453000> BK tunnels actually look exceptionally awesmoe 23:18:58 <V453000> with SE rails 23:19:06 <planetmaker> does that work? 23:19:09 <Vitus> I sometimes wish we had enhanced tunnels from TTDP 23:19:17 <V453000> planetmaker: surprisingly yes :D 23:19:23 <VVG> wait 23:19:25 <planetmaker> which grf order then? 23:19:31 <V453000> see stable server 23:19:34 <V453000> it is there atm 23:19:46 <planetmaker> I first would need to compile, not now ;-) 23:19:47 <VVG> if a backside of 2way pbs is a safe point now, do 2way station still work? 23:19:59 <VVG> without deadlocks 23:20:05 <V453000> BK tunnels are above SE rails 23:20:20 <V453000> but im not sure if that actually matters 23:20:22 <Vitus> VVG: Yes, they do 23:20:53 <Vitus> But strangely, they work even when you *do not* enclose them with two-way PBS 23:20:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038198: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038198.png 23:21:09 <Vitus> Which is totally wrong 23:21:11 <V453000> they dont I think 23:21:20 <V453000> in the psg 189 they didnt at least 23:21:21 <Vitus> Hmmm, let me check 23:21:30 <V453000> we tried with spike at that rubber drop 23:21:43 <Vitus> No lost trains? 23:22:01 <V453000> well they didnt even get into tthe station :) 23:22:32 <PublicServer> <VVG> seem to work 23:24:17 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> slh06 is getting busy :) 23:24:38 *** mixrin has quit IRC 23:24:40 *** Leg3nd has joined #openttdcoop 23:24:46 <V453000> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org:81/index.php?page=servers&s=stable 23:24:52 <V453000> there it is visible a bit 23:25:42 <Vitus> I'm going off, take care. 23:25:47 <Vitus> And good night :) 23:25:49 <PublicServer> <thgergo> me too 23:26:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> gn 23:26:25 <V453000> im off too 23:26:28 <V453000> cya 23:26:34 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> bye 23:26:38 <PublicServer> <thgergo> gn all 23:27:50 <PublicServer> *** thgergo has left the game (connection lost) 23:28:22 *** Vitus has left #openttdcoop 23:28:48 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 23:28:48 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:28:53 <VVG> !players 23:28:57 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 479 (Orange) is Hippidy, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 23:29:08 <VVG> oh 23:29:15 <VVG> you aren't building anything, are you? 23:29:27 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> na, just watching mainly 23:29:30 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 23:33:44 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 23:35:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034932: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034932.png 23:46:18 *** themroc has quit IRC 23:50:03 *** thgergo has quit IRC