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Red entry presignals have huge PF penalty afaik 10:49:21 <Vitus> !screen 10:49:21 <PublicServer> *** Vitus liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011485.png) 10:49:42 <avdg> I though they would only give penalty when the train is checking the first 10 signals (talking about the most pf points) 10:49:53 <avdg> uh next :p 10:50:13 <Vitus> But that's indeed in the 10 signals limit 10:50:35 <avdg> I don't think they have more penalty otherwise 10:50:45 <ODM> first 10 signals + the last signal before destination + normal penalty from the entire route:P 10:50:46 <avdg> the loop has a too big penalty for it 10:50:57 <ODM> and the first signal has a bigger value aswell 10:51:08 <avdg> indeed 10:51:09 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 10:51:14 <avdg> but thats variable 10:51:19 <Vitus> Probably, I'll try it :) 10:51:20 <Vitus> brb 10:55:21 <Vitus> Oh, silly me. It only applies to exit signals, there's no "first entry" penalty :) 10:55:24 <Vitus> Then it's OK 10:55:55 <avdg> but there is still a 10-ahead if thats relevant 10:56:55 <Vitus> Yes, it is. But that penalty is pretty low 10:57:09 <Vitus> First red signal is 1000 + look ahead penalty afaik 10:57:25 <Vitus> But as the entry presig is like... 6 or 7 signals away 10:57:33 <Vitus> Its penalty will be close to 200 I think 10:57:37 <Vitus> Maybe less 10:59:27 <Vitus> I'll check (again) :D 10:59:38 <avdg> well, I think we have to come up with costum builds to test that 10:59:55 <avdg> a debug-window for a train 11:00:27 <avdg> what do you think? 11:01:01 <Vitus> I'm fine with pathfinder debug :D 11:01:24 <Vitus> 2500 penalty for firstred normal signal 11:01:25 <avdg> console is hard to debug with all these trains sending there information 11:03:09 <Vitus> Hmmm, that's true 11:03:46 <avdg> well, I'm not a c++ coder 11:03:56 <avdg> for now 11:09:15 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 11:22:28 *** perk11 has quit IRC 11:23:29 *** avdg has quit IRC 11:23:37 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:40 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 11:34:58 *** r0b0tb0y has quit IRC 11:43:56 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 11:44:29 <fmauneko> Meow 11:47:12 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:50:50 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 11:51:53 <TheRisen_> !players 11:51:57 <PublicServer> TheRisen_: There are currently no clients connected to the server 12:18:00 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:27:49 *** r0b0tb0y has joined #openttdcoop 12:32:09 *** Vitus has quit IRC 12:32:35 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:42 *** robotboy has quit IRC 12:34:52 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 12:49:10 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 12:49:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 13:21:37 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:21:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:22:58 *** bothie has quit IRC 13:23:52 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 13:27:56 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:34:19 *** bothie has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:23 *** r0b0tb0y has quit IRC 13:58:46 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 14:01:41 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 14:39:08 *** r0b0tb0y has joined #openttdcoop 14:46:22 *** robotboy has quit IRC 14:56:23 <TheRisen_> !players 14:56:26 <PublicServer> TheRisen_: There are currently no clients connected to the server 15:05:26 *** VVG has quit IRC 15:13:49 *** TheRisen_ has quit IRC 15:17:03 *** VVG has joined #openttdcoop 15:19:14 *** Paltala has joined #openttdcoop 15:19:48 <Paltala> !password 15:19:48 <PublicServer> Paltala: mellow 15:20:03 <PublicServer> *** Paltala joined the game 15:22:30 <avdg> hey paltala 15:22:41 <PublicServer> <Paltala> yo 15:23:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C501: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C501.png 15:23:54 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i wish people would sign their fucking work 15:24:21 <PublicServer> <Paltala> we have too many /???'s around 15:24:21 <^Spike^> Paltalato me signing all depends on what you build and how long you've been around :) 15:24:33 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i mean stations 15:24:40 <avdg> I wish that noobs signs everything 15:24:59 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i hate it when someone makes a station but doesnt sign their name 15:25:08 <avdg> Because at the other side, I hate signs over the tracks 15:25:08 <^Spike^> on a SL ,imo don't know how other think about it, if you've been around a long time you know what can be done and what can't 15:25:11 <PublicServer> <Paltala> it takes not even 10 seconds for fucks sake 15:25:16 <^Spike^> but if you're new it's better to sign it 15:25:32 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i know 15:25:47 <PublicServer> <Paltala> im not exactly that new but i still sign the majority of my stuff 15:25:56 <PublicServer> <Paltala> like on BBH 03 down to SLH 01 15:26:06 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i leveled some land and changed the rtack layor 15:26:10 <PublicServer> <Paltala> maybe 20 tiles of work? 15:26:14 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i still signed it 15:26:21 <avdg> I fixes a lot, mostly mini optimalisations 15:26:23 <PublicServer> <Paltala> as it had an impact of network speed 15:26:33 <^Spike^> Paltala i meant stuff like SL stations 15:26:49 <PublicServer> <Paltala> yeh, that was my original rant 15:26:52 <^Spike^> you think it's needed to sign every SL station i make while i know the rules? :) 15:27:02 <PublicServer> <Paltala> when people dont sign their frikking stations 15:27:05 <^Spike^> i know exactly what's ok and what's not :) 15:27:14 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i at least like to know who made it incase they made a mistake 15:27:25 <avdg> me too, trough some people are still correcting me 15:28:01 <avdg> I don't want to attack people, its not a good thing, the only thing I want is that they learn from the error 15:28:18 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i know, thats why i do it but its annoying when people dont sign their station 15:28:29 <PublicServer> <Paltala> especially if they have an error in their signalling 15:29:02 <avdg> well, I'll purpose to attack the noobies with the "sign everything" warning 15:29:08 <avdg> lets see how that works 15:29:14 <PublicServer> <Paltala> lol 15:29:19 <PublicServer> <Paltala> i never said that 15:30:16 <avdg> well, it seems we have to do that 15:30:51 <avdg> I see it 80/20 80% of the errors are caused by 20% of us, especially by noobs 15:31:04 <avdg> I have no proof, but if it works, we don't need it 15:32:10 <PublicServer> *** Paltala has left the game (connection lost) 15:33:49 *** roysvork has joined #openttdcoop 15:33:56 *** Paltala has quit IRC 15:33:57 <roysvork> !dl win32 15:33:57 <PublicServer> roysvork: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win32.zip 15:34:26 <roysvork> !password 15:34:26 <PublicServer> roysvork: legacy 15:34:58 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork joined the game 15:38:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035149: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035149.png 15:39:13 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 15:46:26 *** r0b0tb0y has quit IRC 15:47:40 *** murr7y is now known as murr4y 16:14:20 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 16:17:50 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:20:26 <sylf> !password 16:20:26 <PublicServer> sylf: lambed 16:20:46 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 16:22:21 <Vitus> !players 16:22:24 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 226 (Orange) is Roysvork, in company 1 (Kane & Sons) 16:22:24 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 231 is Sylf, a spectator 16:24:10 <Vitus> avdg: I ran that PF debug and here are the results: firstred signal gets penalty of 1000 + another 500 from the look-ahead, if it's red exit presignal, then it gets 10000 penalty + 500 from look-ahead. 16:25:06 <Vitus> Lastred works this way too, it's lastred penalty (1000 for normal and 10k for exit) + look-ahead penalty (if the signal is within look-ahead limit) 16:26:08 <Vitus> !password for me 16:26:08 <PublicServer> Vitus: yanked 16:26:36 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:26:36 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 16:33:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 1000th train! 16:36:28 <avdg> :) 16:38:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000374A7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000374A7.png 16:39:23 *** r0b0tb0y has joined #openttdcoop 16:41:43 <fmauneko> !password 16:41:43 <PublicServer> fmauneko: bugled 16:42:03 <fmauneko> !info 16:42:03 <PublicServer> fmauneko: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Kane & Sons' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 2337031906 Loan: 0 Value: 2342317329 (T:1000, R:79, P:0, S:0) unprotected 16:42:09 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 16:42:22 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Meow 16:42:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Most of the trains have very low income, if any. GE E60C eats 26774€ a year 16:42:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 16:42:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now we have trains with three such engines :D 16:44:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, should be profit, not income :P 16:44:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 84M € income from trains last year and 71M € running costs :D 16:45:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Frak, Population from the Outpost is still decrasing 16:45:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> WTF ? 16:46:57 *** robotboy has quit IRC 16:47:44 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Btw, someone should make a NAND combo signal :p 16:50:40 <avdg> isn't there already something on the forum? 16:51:38 <V453000> there is 16:51:40 <V453000> by OwenS 16:53:18 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, yeah, the Programmable Signals 16:53:27 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 16:53:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003816A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003816A.png 16:53:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Problem is that the GUI won't compile with recent trunks 16:57:41 *** mixrin has quit IRC 16:58:06 <V453000> also NAND standalone afaik 17:00:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yeah, just found this one 17:00:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> GOing to diner :p 17:01:55 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 17:04:57 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 17:23:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000099C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000099C8.png 17:39:29 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 17:47:02 *** r0b0tb0y has quit IRC 18:01:31 <fmauneko> Damn it, I haven't found a NAND signal patch which applies correctly on the current trunk :/ 18:39:37 *** r0b0tb0y has joined #openttdcoop 18:40:34 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:41:13 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 18:42:26 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 18:44:41 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:59 *** robotboy has quit IRC 18:53:46 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:54:58 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:26 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 19:17:53 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 19:34:26 *** r0b0tb0y has quit IRC 19:54:13 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 19:56:34 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:38 <sharpy> !password 19:56:38 <PublicServer> sharpy: preyed 19:56:54 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 20:00:03 *** t4rd has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:08 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:10 *** t4rd has quit IRC 20:02:38 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:03:47 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 20:05:59 <PublicServer> *** Roysvork has left the game (leaving) 20:05:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:06:07 *** roysvork has quit IRC 20:11:56 *** mixrin has quit IRC 20:16:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:19 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 20:39:40 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 20:39:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 21:01:19 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 21:03:32 *** Chris_Booth_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:03:38 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 21:05:07 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 21:05:14 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 21:07:51 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 21:08:12 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 21:15:40 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 21:15:51 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 21:16:31 <fmauneko> Back after reboot 21:16:35 <fmauneko> GVFS was gone nuts 21:16:39 *** fmauneko is now known as fmauNeko 21:22:13 *** sharpy has quit IRC 21:24:26 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 21:27:05 *** Testney__ has quit IRC 21:33:55 *** avdg1 has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:09 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:57:23 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 21:57:33 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 22:13:42 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:13:48 *** avdg1 is now known as avdg 22:19:18 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: NFORenum - NFORenum 4.0.0 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/44> || GRFCodec - GRFCodec 1.0.0 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/43> 22:53:11 *** Vitus has quit IRC 22:53:22 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 23:02:46 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:03:55 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 23:17:44 *** kriokamera has joined #openttdcoop 23:19:33 <kriokamera> !players 23:19:36 <PublicServer> kriokamera: There are currently no clients connected to the server 23:19:50 <kriokamera> hi everything who hear me 23:20:03 <XeryusTC> hmm 23:20:09 <XeryusTC> any playing been going on? 23:20:38 <kriokamera> i don't know 23:21:09 <kriokamera> can you tell me please, what internet speed does coop server needs? 23:22:20 <kriokamera> i'm now here by GPRS, and it very slow 23:23:54 <hylje> not much bandwidth but latency is important 23:24:01 <hylje> gprs may be terrible with latency at times 23:24:37 <kriokamera> will try right now, just copy game from flash-disk 23:25:51 <kriokamera> !password 23:25:51 <PublicServer> kriokamera: hernia 23:29:23 <kriokamera> hm, mismatching newgrf. maybe, game saves downloaded grf not at it's folder 23:32:30 <kriokamera> can someone please join a game for a minute? just to see, how game will run 23:32:57 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 23:33:05 <kriokamera> Fck! 23:33:18 <avdg> I think you're internet connection isn't that stable 23:33:38 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 23:33:41 <avdg> hey mark 23:33:43 <Mark> hello 23:33:54 <kriokamera> hi 23:34:04 <kriokamera> game crashed, i didn't joined 23:34:10 <Mark> !info 23:34:10 <PublicServer> Mark: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Kane & Sons' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 2414503186 Loan: 0 Value: 2418002091 (T:1000, R:79, P:0, S:0) unprotected 23:34:24 <hylje> you got the grfpack too? 23:34:28 <Mark> i want to play :P 23:34:33 <avdg> :p 23:34:36 <avdg> finish it 23:36:02 <kriokamera> i got full revision and grf, but it doesn't runs on this computer. i can't join today - need to download r20279 23:37:14 *** kriokamera has quit IRC 23:37:35 *** kriokamera has joined #openttdcoop 23:38:29 <fmauNeko> Moar 23:39:15 <fmauNeko> I found the NANDNG patch on FlySpray, but I didn't managed to get it working with the latest trunk :'( 23:39:28 <fmauNeko> I can't build any kind of signals :p 23:40:14 <kriokamera> !password 23:40:14 <PublicServer> kriokamera: carnal 23:40:57 <Mark> did we get any nice features recently? 23:42:23 *** avdg has quit IRC 23:44:30 <PublicServer> *** kriokamera joined the game 23:44:33 <kriokamera> YES!! 23:46:13 <kriokamera> someone join please-please! 23:47:08 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 23:51:50 *** Mazur has quit IRC 23:52:33 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 23:53:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000362AD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000362AD.png 23:58:01 *** Intexon has quit IRC