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00:01:08 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:04:15 <TheRisen> well, I am off for today 00:04:22 <TheRisen> gn8 00:04:43 <Niavmaii> Night 00:04:45 <Niavmaii> Thanks for the help 00:05:41 <TheRisen> np at all 00:05:53 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 00:13:53 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 00:36:15 <DrPizza> What are all the fake stations for? 00:36:44 <DrPizza> (in the tutorial map) 00:37:08 <DrPizza> are they just there to add penalties to the pathfinder? 00:37:35 *** thgergo has quit IRC 00:45:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 00:46:05 *** madgerm has quit IRC 00:56:39 <Sylf> which fake stations? 00:57:14 <DrPizza> there are lots of things on the tutorial map labelled "fake station" 00:57:57 <Sylf> I see one... 00:58:08 <DrPizza> I thought there were several 00:58:12 <DrPizza> dotted around 00:58:50 <Sylf> I see only one, as a part of Bumblewell Docks 00:59:03 <Sylf> and that station isn't serving any purpose 01:23:21 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 01:51:29 <PublicServer> *** Niavmai has left the game 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Number of players: 1 (0 spectators) 09:26:49 <TheRisen> !password 09:26:49 <PublicServer> TheRisen: daubed 09:27:00 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:27:02 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 09:32:56 *** heffer has quit IRC 09:34:38 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 09:38:10 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 09:38:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:40:24 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:40:25 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 09:46:17 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 09:46:17 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:50:41 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 09:50:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:51:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> -_- 09:54:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014658: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00014658.png 10:09:13 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:50 <PublicServer> *** made 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KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:48:37 <Thomas_> how is the welcome server irc channel called? 11:49:09 *** Thomas_ is now known as kuch3n 11:50:27 <KenjiE20> #openttdcoop.stable 11:51:08 <kuch3n> thanks 11:56:33 <V453000> Kenji alive \o/ :p 11:56:51 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 11:58:26 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 12:00:04 <avdg> wb 12:06:26 *** Firartix has quit IRC 12:06:38 *** lasershock has quit IRC 12:07:02 *** lasershock has joined #openttdcoop 12:30:42 *** roboboy has quit IRC 13:07:30 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 13:09:39 *** Sylf_mob_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:54 *** Intexon_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:15:32 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 13:19:34 *** DrPizza has quit IRC 13:20:50 *** ryx has joined #openttdcoop 13:25:59 *** Sylf_mob_ has quit IRC 13:26:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 13:26:46 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:27:02 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Intexon 13:27:11 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 13:27:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:27:38 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:31 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 13:28:32 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:28:32 *** Intexon_ has quit IRC 13:30:52 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:31:38 <dihedral> looks like someone was unhappy .... http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45221&start=0 13:31:41 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [Patch] Watch Other Companies GUI (at www.tt-forums.net) 13:38:18 *** davis has quit IRC 13:38:29 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop 13:39:56 <planetmaker> let me guess who annoyed him 13:47:34 <hylje> threw up a tantrum 13:47:42 <dihedral> planetmaker, guess 13:48:32 <^Spike^> is that a million dollar question? :) 13:48:55 <avdg> no, a one million billion question :p 13:49:43 <dihedral> wasn't me if that is what you are trying to say ;-) 13:49:55 <^Spike^> not what i'm saying :) 13:50:16 <dihedral> ^Spike^, you just want the money :-P 13:50:19 <dihedral> :-D 13:50:40 <^Spike^> well if you have it laying around somewhere... i willingly donate my account nr ;) 13:51:09 <SmatZ> dihedral: what happened? 13:51:37 <dihedral> sure, give me your account number, your online-banking details, username, password, ... i prefer a 'pull' over a 'push' you know? don't worry, i'll handle it for you though at no extra charge :-P 13:52:03 <^Spike^> :)\ 13:52:09 <dihedral> SmatZ, i don't exactly know, i reported his post to my thread, a day later all i see is [..] 13:52:22 <^Spike^> shamefully you would need to login within 60secs cause else the login code expires :D 13:53:11 <dihedral> ^Spike^, just give me all the details i need, preferable enough to do 10 transactions, as i do not want to transfer a lump sum ... *cough* from my account 13:53:37 <^Spike^> i still need to do most work... ;) 13:53:53 <^Spike^> 10 times using my random reader to generate codes that are valid for 1 min or so :) 13:53:55 <^Spike^> too much work :) 13:54:19 <dihedral> you're lazy :-P 13:54:30 *** TheUros has joined #openttdcoop 13:55:49 <planetmaker> well. seems history has been re-written and deleted. So nothing I can quote anymore. 13:58:51 <dihedral> still, that should not have had effect on the other patch of his 14:00:07 <dihedral> could have made a usefull remark also 14:00:09 <planetmaker> nor should him running a goal server have an impact on comments to his comments ;-) 14:00:45 <planetmaker> still his behaviour is highly childish, to say at least. 14:01:25 *** TheUros has quit IRC 14:02:20 * dihedral never commented on that :-P 14:02:55 <planetmaker> that's not true. I can quote on that 14:03:26 <dihedral> do :-) 14:07:40 <dihedral> i commented on things like letting openttd handle mysql connections 14:08:36 *** roboboy has quit IRC 14:10:41 <planetmaker> »» 16:07:09 < Muxy> i say so cause everybody know that Muxy likes heavilly patched servers»» 2010-08-16 16:47:10 <dihedral> then Muxy does not deserve any support 14:11:28 <dihedral> planetmaker, that is not a negative remark on running a goal server, that is a negative remark as to complaining about 'bugs' 14:11:32 <dihedral> and that on a patched server 14:11:51 <dihedral> without trying to even confirm that the bug exists in an official build 14:12:41 <dihedral> that kinda defeats the entire bug report 14:12:48 <planetmaker> »» 21:54:30 < Eddi|zuHause> Muxy probably has goal servers in mind... 14:12:48 <planetmaker> »» 21:56:39 < dihedral> that's kinda what made me "oh my word" on it - as the entire post is a bunch of rubbish :-P 14:13:05 <hylje> "please reproduce on unpatched build" 14:13:50 <dihedral> that is out of the context: 14:13:52 <dihedral> 21:56:07 < Eddi|zuHause> and alone skipping the savegame download needs a separate protocol 14:13:57 <planetmaker> :-) 14:14:04 <dihedral> meany 14:14:22 *** Giant has joined #openttdcoop 14:14:25 <planetmaker> I know I'm mean. Still there's a history to it. Of being not kind to eachother 14:14:51 <dihedral> if you knew how many chats i had with those luukland boys 14:15:12 <dihedral> trying to include what they could use 14:15:46 <planetmaker> dih, but the full quote from 16th August is "no patch" on that server 14:16:08 <planetmaker> so he claimed to report a bug on an unpatched trunk. 14:16:45 <planetmaker> Then stated, that he said 'unpatched' as everybody knows that he *usually* uses patched builds. And then you said that he then doesn't deserve support... 14:16:55 <planetmaker> Which he did, when he uses unpatched builds 14:17:58 <planetmaker> http://pastebin.org/985683 <-- easy reference 14:19:58 <dihedral> had a chat with him after that 14:31:30 *** luckz has joined #openttdcoop 14:31:52 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:22 <sharpy> !password 14:32:22 <PublicServer> sharpy: frocks 14:32:34 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:32:37 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 14:33:05 *** ryx has quit IRC 14:37:47 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 14:38:11 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 14:38:16 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 14:39:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026DD4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00026DD4.png 14:40:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 14:54:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002DE15: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002DE15.png 15:13:46 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 15:13:48 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:18:42 <olleman> whoops 15:18:46 <olleman> looks like I forgot to log out 15:18:52 <PublicServer> *** olleman has left the game (connection lost) 15:19:04 *** VVG has quit IRC 15:21:13 *** sharpy has quit IRC 15:36:49 *** Progman has quit IRC 15:39:23 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:39:25 <Ammler> windows guys, how do I resize a windows ntfs partition? 15:39:48 <Ammler> (with legal free tools) 15:40:39 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:41:19 <Ammler> Do I need .net 2.0, if I have .net 4.0? 15:42:42 <dihedral> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325590 <- can that help? 15:42:43 <Webster> Title: How to extend a data volume in Windows Server 2003, in Windows XP, in Windows 2000, and in Windows Server 2008 (at support.microsoft.com) 15:44:27 <Ammler> dihedral: I were there already with search too :-) 15:44:39 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:06 <Ammler> and that tool doesn't help because of dynamischen Datenträger 15:45:20 <Ammler> no idea, what that means, though 15:46:56 <Ammler> I guess, the easiest is to make a new disk and mount both disk on linux and copy the old with dd 15:47:36 <Ammler> (without mount) 15:47:57 <Niavmaii> What's this I hear about mounting? 15:49:18 <dihedral> Ammler, would parted or gparted help? 15:49:29 <dihedral> would have to boot with a live cd, but could be possible 15:52:54 <Ammler> yeah, trying.. 15:58:44 <Aali> did you ever run a FIRS coop game? 16:00:32 <dihedral> Aali, PSG1 was the FIRS(T) :-P 16:00:43 <dihedral> sorry - that was just smiling at me :-P 16:01:12 <V453000> @psgsave 188 16:01:12 <Webster> PSG 188 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_181_-_190#gameid_188 16:01:20 <V453000> @psgsave 168 16:01:21 <Webster> PSG 168 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_161_-_170#gameid_168 16:01:25 <V453000> ^ 16:01:29 <Aali> dihedral: thats a terrible joke 16:01:39 <V453000> 178 actually :) 16:01:42 <V453000> 188 and 178 16:02:40 <dihedral> yes, i know, Aali - but i could not resist :-S 16:03:34 <Aali> dihedral: dont worry, jesus still loves you 16:03:40 <Ammler> hehe, PSG1 wasn't the FIRS(t) 16:03:53 <Aali> PSG188 was exactly what I was looking for 16:04:07 <Aali> with RVs moving supplies back to primaries 16:04:12 <Ammler> wb Aali btw. :-) 16:04:21 <V453000> Aali: iirc we had different settings there though 16:04:30 <Aali> I figured I wasn't the first person to come up with that 16:04:42 <V453000> industries were allowed to die if they didnt have enough supplies 16:04:54 <V453000> which wasnt really well manageable in large scale :) 16:05:13 <Aali> Ammler: I'm not back 16:05:22 <Aali> Ammler: don't tell anyone I'm here 16:05:30 <V453000> he is still gone btw 16:05:35 <Ammler> ah, you never were gone :-) 16:06:06 <Ammler> is2 could use some updates :-P 16:06:39 <Aali> lalalalalala can't hear you! 16:07:00 <V453000> does anyone use that thing anymore? 16:08:07 <Ammler> the last release was from last december 16:08:17 <V453000> ok :D 16:08:32 <Ammler> but there were mostly at least one MP server on 16:08:38 <Ammler> dunno, how it is now 16:08:48 <V453000> dont know about any 16:12:35 <Niavmaii> Lol, oh god I'm scared D: 16:12:52 <Niavmaii> I just built my first 2+1->2 16:12:58 <Niavmaii> And now I need to add signals ._. 16:15:50 <Niavmaii> Lmfao, yep 16:15:52 <Niavmaii> Messed it up already 16:19:08 <planetmaker> Niavmaii, is your other nickname actually TruePikachu? 16:19:26 <Niavmaii> No? O.o 16:19:52 <planetmaker> ok :-) 16:21:08 <Niavmaii> Why? 16:31:52 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 16:34:47 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 16:38:12 *** avdg has quit IRC 16:38:41 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:42:49 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 16:43:44 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 16:45:43 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 16:53:44 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 16:58:49 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 17:12:12 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 17:12:25 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 17:16:49 *** Hylkevd has joined #openttdcoop 17:16:57 <Hylkevd> !dl win32 17:16:57 <PublicServer> Hylkevd: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20801/openttd-trunk-r20801-windows-win32.zip 17:18:05 <Hylkevd> !password 17:18:05 <PublicServer> Hylkevd: enrich 17:18:41 <PublicServer> *** Hylke joined the game 17:26:22 <PublicServer> *** Hylke has left the game (leaving) 17:26:32 *** Hylkevd has quit IRC 17:29:15 <Ammler> dihedral: feature request for ap+ :-) 17:29:23 <Ammler> don't allow pm from banned people 17:35:02 *** roysvork has joined #openttdcoop 17:35:12 <roysvork> !dl win32 17:35:12 <PublicServer> roysvork: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20801/openttd-trunk-r20801-windows-win32.zip 17:35:16 <V453000> Ammler: got it too :p 17:35:40 <Ammler> ? 17:35:55 <V453000> message from CB 17:37:28 *** roysvork has quit IRC 17:43:16 <Niavmaii> o_o 17:45:58 <Ammler> I told hime to use /msg... 17:46:16 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 17:46:17 *** roysvork has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:21 <roysvork> !Password 17:46:26 <roysvork> !password 17:46:26 <PublicServer> roysvork: enrich 17:46:43 <dihedral> Ammler, don't allow messages from people not in the channel 17:46:53 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:46:53 <PublicServer> *** roysvork joined the game 17:47:03 <Ammler> dihedral: just teh password command 17:47:39 <PublicServer> *** roysvork has left the game (connection lost) 17:47:39 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:47:48 <dihedral> you mean banned in game? 17:47:51 <dihedral> that will not work 17:47:58 <roysvork> boooo, my laptop cant handle it :/ 17:48:11 <V453000> dih: well he isnt banned on #openttd :p 17:48:36 <roysvork> who would have thought openttd of all thing would be so cpu intesive :) 17:48:51 <dihedral> which banned do you mean? 17:48:57 <dihedral> channel? openttd? 17:49:06 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 17:49:08 <Ammler> the channel, where ap is in 17:49:24 <dihedral> then do not let it handle !password if the person is not in the channel 17:49:27 <Ammler> but I guess, it is easiest to just output password to the channel 17:49:39 <dihedral> in fact, set it so it does not allow ony chat from people not in the channel 17:51:22 *** roysvork has quit IRC 17:57:18 *** avdg has quit IRC 17:57:23 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:15:08 *** einKarl has quit IRC 18:16:26 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:22:26 <olleman> still building huh 18:34:14 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:36:10 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 18:39:42 *** avdg has quit IRC 18:39:44 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:36 <Niavmaii> Mooo 18:44:17 <Niavmaii> V453000: OpenTTD2: Seallife actually sounds crazy badass. :p 18:44:31 <Niavmaii> Or some crazy interplanetary thing xD 18:44:48 <V453000> moo. 18:47:35 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:55:20 <planetmaker> mäh 18:55:38 <V453000> moo? 18:56:04 <planetmaker> mäh mäh 18:56:24 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:31 <TheRisen> hi there 18:56:34 <TheRisen> playercount 18:56:37 <V453000> quack quack :) 18:56:38 <TheRisen> !playercount 18:56:38 <PublicServer> TheRisen: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 18:57:08 *** gnemo has quit IRC 19:23:07 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 19:24:51 * TheRisen slaps Niavmaii around a bit with a large fishbot 19:25:57 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:07 <TheRisen> niavmaii, what is your game doing? 19:26:31 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 19:26:57 <Niavmaii> Being silly. >_> 19:27:18 <Niavmaii> I managed to replicate the hub on the next junction :x 19:27:23 <Niavmaii> And now I need to do the other one 19:29:02 *** dihedral has left #openttdcoop 19:32:33 *** kuch3n has quit IRC 19:32:35 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:41 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:06:26 *** perk11 has quit IRC 20:10:03 <TheRisen> wow, i just finished my first 4+4-> joiner 20:10:13 <TheRisen> *4+4-->4 20:10:27 <V453000> depends what technique you using ;) 20:11:27 <V453000> you can always show me if you need feedback :p 20:12:16 *** Tray has quit IRC 20:18:46 <TheRisen> http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2288/vvnlbbrb_png.htm 20:18:48 <Webster> Title: Directupload.net - Dvvnlbbrb.png (at s1.directupload.net) 20:19:10 <TheRisen> if u want to have a look at it 20:19:21 <V453000> oh this way 20:19:45 <V453000> TL3? 20:20:01 <TheRisen> TL4 20:20:22 <planetmaker> missing quite some signals, TheRisen ? 20:20:30 <V453000> it isnt done probably :p 20:20:35 <SmatZ> TL4 for slow trains :) 20:20:42 <V453000> but still, it will be quite slowly reacting :p 20:20:50 <SmatZ> hmm though there are some TL1 curves 20:20:59 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 20:21:04 <V453000> that too :) 20:21:11 <V453000> but mainly the splits into choices will make trouble 20:21:24 <V453000> most likely, anyway 20:21:35 <planetmaker> depends upon the signaling 20:21:40 <planetmaker> I think it will be ok, though 20:21:41 <jondisti> !password 20:21:42 <PublicServer> jondisti: enrich 20:21:58 <planetmaker> I'd tune the 1st one at least. there the track layout is not optimal 20:21:58 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 20:22:08 *** mixrin has quit IRC 20:22:16 <V453000> :) 20:22:24 <TheRisen> do it like the other ones? 20:22:39 <planetmaker> yes 20:23:03 <planetmaker> TheRisen: each branch should at best be able to hold one entire train 20:23:07 <planetmaker> or be much shorter 20:23:36 <TheRisen> that will be fixed in use 20:23:52 <TheRisen> i don't know exactly how long the waitng bays should be 20:23:55 <SmatZ> "fixed in use", huh? 20:23:58 <SmatZ> you know TL :) 20:24:38 <TheRisen> yes 20:25:03 <SmatZ> [22:21:01] <SmatZ> hmm though there are some TL1 curves <== should be "CL1" 20:25:44 <TheRisen> at the double bridges, yes 20:26:47 <SmatZ> also, the way you put exit signals won't work 20:26:48 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:26:58 <SmatZ> because the combo will be green when at least one of exits is green 20:27:05 <SmatZ> not "only when both are green" 20:27:06 <TheRisen> ouch 20:27:14 <TheRisen> of course 20:29:17 *** kuch3n_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:29:23 <V453000> @coopstats 20:29:23 <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html 20:29:27 <V453000> hmm havent seen this in a while :) 20:29:40 <V453000> oh :D shit 20:31:12 <SmatZ> V453000: you and Vitus are the most aggressive people here :p 20:31:24 <V453000> yes cause he slapped he like 10 times in a row :D 20:31:37 <SmatZ> :) 20:32:12 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 20:32:24 <V453000> hmm the 38k lines remind me that I should really finish that damn blog article already :D its endless 20:32:24 *** benom has quit IRC 20:32:31 *** jondisti has quit IRC 20:32:36 <SmatZ> :) 20:32:51 <SmatZ> @seen PeterT 20:32:51 <Webster> SmatZ: PeterT was last seen in #openttdcoop 3 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <PeterT> !screen 20:33:01 <V453000> I need only images but when I add images, I add another 20% of text :D 20:33:31 <SmatZ> :) 20:34:34 <TheRisen> argh, fuck it 20:34:48 <V453000> TheRisen: thats how I do it :p 20:35:07 <TheRisen> i fucked up 80% of my prios 20:35:10 <TheRisen> damn it 20:35:12 <V453000> xD 20:35:13 <V453000> oh 20:35:15 <V453000> thats bad : 20:35:17 <V453000> :) 20:35:22 <TheRisen> YES it is 20:35:40 *** kuch3n has quit IRC 20:35:50 <TheRisen> i have to rebuilt the whole thing 20:36:11 <V453000> be patient :) 20:36:26 <V453000> I rebuild large stuff often :) usually cause a few tiles (mostly ONE freaking tile :D) 20:36:54 <V453000> SmatZ: im still here, only dissapeared from stable :P 20:36:58 <SmatZ> oh :) 20:37:01 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:04 <V453000> article dive :p 20:43:43 *** kuch3n_ has quit IRC 20:48:43 *** Firartix has quit IRC 20:57:06 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 20:57:11 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:43 *** greenlion has quit IRC 20:59:41 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 21:00:33 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 21:01:03 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:06:07 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 21:09:17 <TheRisen> !playercount 21:09:17 <PublicServer> TheRisen: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators) 21:09:53 <TheRisen> !password 21:09:53 <PublicServer> TheRisen: enrich 21:10:05 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 21:10:49 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:10:49 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:15:42 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 21:17:58 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> does the wood coal exit rly need an additional lane? 21:18:12 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it's getting along quite good 21:18:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't know, but I bet its a yes 21:19:46 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> what else is to do? 21:20:08 <PublicServer> * avdg studies !this lane 21:20:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> there seems no single space on that line 21:21:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> and still, not jamming at the begin of the ml (join) 21:21:57 *** Fuco has quit IRC 21:22:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:22:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> and if there is a gap, its filled very quickly 21:23:34 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> should we penalize this joining track? 21:23:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> don't know 21:23:47 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> to make trains prefer another one 21:24:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> penaltilize can really result in unknow stuff 21:24:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> or nothing 21:24:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002827D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002827D.png 21:25:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> don't do that :p 21:25:56 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i was too slow 21:26:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> no, not only for that reason 21:26:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> look upstream 21:26:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are many small jams on it 21:27:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> compacting the space will only result in bigger slowdowns 21:28:41 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> the middle lane has a much higher joining capacity 21:28:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> but not that much 21:29:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> detouring a bit of traffic may already result in an overfull line 21:30:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> look what happens when the line is at full capacity 21:31:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:32:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> takes long time before that jam restarts 21:32:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> <!small jam 2 <- better result 21:34:12 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i don't see a jam 21:34:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> watch the speed 21:34:32 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yes they are slowing down tehre 21:35:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats a capacity loss 21:35:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> but if you solve that one, you still have many of them further 21:36:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> check ! < small jam 3 21:36:17 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> are trains slowing down, when heading diagonal? 21:36:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> yes 21:36:58 <V453000> use higher signal density? :p 21:37:00 <V453000> should work 21:37:29 <V453000> unless you have absolute packing like we had in PZG13, it should work :) 21:37:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> in the end it is some kind of micro optimizing 21:38:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> solving this will only move the jam if you aren't carefully enough 21:39:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> good place is before a split, but not any split will allow such a high troughput 21:39:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> filter by "slowdown fix experiment" 21:39:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> I had to move the split to get quite good results 21:39:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028231: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028231.png 21:40:00 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 21:40:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> what also could work is using the tricks of the bridges 21:40:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> parallel tracks 21:40:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> but using them too much and you have a new line :p 21:42:18 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 21:45:29 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 21:49:38 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> these little jams affect the overall capacity of the network not that much 21:50:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> no, but they can make the diffrends between a new line which is hard to build or not building one 21:50:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> but that just 1 option 21:50:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> jam? 21:50:59 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> jam? 21:51:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:51:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like the jam is located arround slh07 21:51:36 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> slh 06 21:51:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> but I'm not sure 21:51:41 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> is full 21:51:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh 21:52:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:52:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> too much traffic 21:52:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> and thatjammed back the wohle line 21:52:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe better to install an overflowlane till the next bbh 21:53:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> slh 07 is full 21:53:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> someone removed that overflow 21:53:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> what caused the jam :p 21:54:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> nederlanda oil 21:54:29 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> yes 21:54:48 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> probably due to the rebuilt of slh7 21:54:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032221: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00032221.png 21:54:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 21:55:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> nederlanda oil had always moments when it needed an overflow 21:55:11 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> why are people doing this then? 21:55:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno why 21:55:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> overflows are kinda anti-patterns 21:56:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> not because they are bad 21:56:56 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> we need to rebuilt it 21:57:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> or re-add the overflow 21:57:17 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> y 21:57:22 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> that's what i meant 21:57:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> that should help for now 21:59:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> cleanup :) 21:59:23 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 22:00:08 *** Deamonhunter11 is now known as Guest216 22:00:41 *** Guest216 is now known as Deamonhunter11 22:01:37 <Deamonhunter11> !password 22:01:41 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: blithe 22:01:55 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 22:02:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi 22:02:15 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello 22:02:25 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> still on this one 22:02:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 22:02:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> and we are only 200 trains further 22:09:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F480: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002F480.png 22:10:04 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (connection lost) 22:10:06 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 22:11:20 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (connection lost) 22:11:22 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:11:36 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 22:20:59 *** Giant has quit IRC 22:24:29 <TheRisen> gn8 guys 22:24:32 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 22:26:12 <Niavmaii> Gnate? 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