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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st February 2011:
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01:09:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi diddly ho.
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03:24:38  <Sylf> !password
03:24:38  <PublicServer> Sylf: gargle
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03:25:22  <PublicServer> lych: gargle
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03:25:55  <PublicServer> <Sylf> ello
03:26:13  <PublicServer> <lych> hey wads up
03:26:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> not much... except wondering who's building random roads around towns
03:27:40  <PublicServer> <Sylf> dear lord, look how many forests are there around Greenpeace HQ
03:27:51  <PublicServer> <lych> lol yeah
03:28:06  <PublicServer> <lych> is it just me, or are there more forests there now
03:28:24  <PublicServer> <lych> and theyre doing pretty fine
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03:29:32  <PublicServer> <lych> anw what roads were you talking about?
03:29:47  <PublicServer> <lych> oh those tt u just removed
03:29:49  <PublicServer> <lych> lol
03:30:04  <PublicServer> <Sylf> different spots
03:30:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> especially around airports
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03:34:06  <PublicServer> <Sylf> OK, so 1 new plan since last night...
03:34:45  <PublicServer> <lych> yea... although i dont really see much of a difference
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03:35:08  <PublicServer> <lych> especially if you guys are not going to care about teh existing industries and towns
03:35:30  <PublicServer> <Sylf> Yeah.  Unless someone does something crazy like Boost game or refit game, I don't see much variations
03:36:15  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I guess the only thing we care about towns is that the chosen town(s) accept food and goods, and have a bank
03:36:44  <lych> yea
03:36:45  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I normally don't see towns being founded in cargo games
03:37:03  <PublicServer> <lych> what about industries then
03:37:13  <PublicServer> <lych> just prospect?
03:37:20  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I don't think nobody expected the greenpeace HQ area infected with so many forests
03:37:30  <PublicServer> <lych> then if its not in a convenient spot  ignore it?
03:37:40  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think most plans expected to see some ML lines through that area
03:37:54  <PublicServer> <Sylf> so those forests will add some challenges to construction
03:38:16  <PublicServer> <Sylf> otherwise, we'll just connect whatever industries that are there at the time of building
03:38:22  <PublicServer> <lych> hm i have a plan
03:38:24  <PublicServer> <lych> save the trees
03:38:42  <PublicServer> <lych> or rather, fund the tree industry
03:38:44  <PublicServer> <lych> lol
03:38:56  <PublicServer> <Sylf> and if all of them are connected and we want to populate the rails more, we prospect more industries at that point
03:39:28  <PublicServer> <Sylf> if ya wanna do some crazy wood/paper boosting plan... go for it  ;)
03:39:59  <PublicServer> <Sylf> put some restrictions, like all ML to be placed under snow line
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03:59:50  <PublicServer> <Sylf> lych, got any more specifics for the plan?
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04:12:32  <lych> woops yeah had to afk there for a while
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04:38:50  <Mark> gday
04:38:58  <lych> hey there
04:41:37  <Mark> !info
04:41:37  <PublicServer> Mark: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG 202'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 28466436  Loan: 0  Value: 28898510  (T:10, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
04:42:03  <Mark> @op
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04:50:29  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I suppose it's about time to call for the night
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08:46:04  <V453000> @stage Voting
08:46:04  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG202 (r22115) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only | Server down for maintenance: Feb 26"
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08:54:22  <V453000> !tweet come cast your vote for psg 202!
08:54:23  <PublicServer> V453000: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop
08:54:41  <V453000> @tweet Come cast your vote for psg 202!
08:54:43  <Webster> V453000: The operation succeeded.
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09:00:38  <^Spike^> you ruined my timeline on twitter! ;)
09:02:14  * ^Spike^ has to do something @ work ;)
09:03:27  <V453000> hmm :)
09:03:27  <V453000> :P
09:07:30  <^Spike^> guess installing ottd would be a bit too much though :)
09:09:34  <^Spike^> although i'm also for if you don't play don't vote :)
09:09:49  <^Spike^> and since i'm also busy with graduation stuff the next months... :)
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09:52:34  <ppetak> !password
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09:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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09:55:18  <PublicServer> <ppetak> huhu
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09:56:17  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I have just connected :)
09:56:31  <PublicServer> <ppetak> one more plan I see..
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09:58:48  <V453000> wifi of fuckup
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12:58:52  <ppetak> !password
12:58:52  <PublicServer> ppetak: earner
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13:15:25  <Sylf> !password
13:15:25  <PublicServer> Sylf: pusses
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13:17:53  <PublicServer> <ppetak> huhu
13:18:13  <PublicServer> <ppetak> viewing plans?
13:18:19  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup
13:18:54  <PublicServer> <ppetak> me too .. its difficult, I like 2 of them ..
13:19:40  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I remember Chris Booth wanting to vote by proxy
13:19:47  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I forgot which plan though
13:19:58  <PublicServer> <ppetak> problem ... :)
13:20:41  <PublicServer> <ppetak> and he is idle from yesterday evening I bet ..
13:25:28  <Sylf> I'll have to think some more.  For now, it's time for shower, then work
13:25:56  <PublicServer> <ppetak> I'm a work now :/
13:27:56  <V453000> !dl win32
13:27:56  <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22115/openttd-trunk-r22115-windows-win32.zip
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14:05:50  <V453000> !password
14:05:50  <PublicServer> V453000: altars
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14:07:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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14:19:14  <lych> !password
14:19:14  <PublicServer> lych: altars
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15:35:55  <DJNekkid> on a linux system, what would be the 'standard' way of finding some text in a file?
15:36:12  <DJNekkid> i know the dir (ish) where the mentioned text is, but not what file :)
15:37:13  <Mazur> grep "text" *
15:37:27  <Mazur> in terminal
15:37:34  <DJNekkid> oki, ty :D
15:37:40  <Mazur> Or in vi: /text
15:38:01  <Mazur> CTRL-F is often attached to find
15:39:01  <DJNekkid> yea, but i didnt know what file it were in :)
15:39:08  <DJNekkid> but i do now, and thanx :D
15:40:00  <Mazur> grep -l "text" *
15:40:19  <Mazur> -l lists only the file names.
15:41:07  <DJNekkid> and now, figureing out actionB with messagetype 4 :)
15:46:29  <Mazur> No idea what that means.
15:48:38  <DJNekkid> it were apparently really easy peasy :)
15:50:30  <Mazur> s/were/was/
16:00:19  <Mazur> !password
16:00:19  <PublicServer> Mazur: altars
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16:04:45  <mrfrenzy_> !dl
16:04:45  <PublicServer> mrfrenzy_: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
16:04:45  <PublicServer> mrfrenzy_: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r22115
16:04:49  <mrfrenzy_> !dl osx
16:04:49  <PublicServer> mrfrenzy_: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22115/openttd-trunk-r22115-macosx-universal.zip
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16:29:16  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello
16:29:50  <Mazur> SmatZ.
16:30:05  <Mazur> Time to phote.
16:30:05  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yes
16:30:13  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> that's why I am here :)
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16:42:49  <Mazur> Ah, following my lead: spreading the vote to avoid everyone immediately flocking to V's plan.
16:42:59  <Mazur> :-)
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16:56:47  <Mazur> Yay!  Success!
16:57:00  * Mazur now has pax percentage in town directory.
16:57:08  <Mazur> belatedly.
17:03:27  <V453000> hm, we might have to go to some different way to vote, since it obviously becomes just a sport of controlling others minds and "trying to spread" the votes
17:04:30  <^Spike^> V that might be an idea idd
17:05:06  <V453000> all it would take is just some form where people cannot see what the others voted for
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17:05:20  <V453000> which basically means moving it out of openttd :|
17:05:36  <^Spike^> giving plans a number
17:05:41  <^Spike^> is the way
17:05:48  <V453000> not really
17:05:50  <^Spike^> instead of plan <name>
17:05:54  <V453000> that is the same
17:06:03  <V453000> the problem is that people just do not use brain and just follow the rest
17:06:10  <^Spike^> who says the user assigns the number ;)
17:06:13  <V453000> the problem is that they see what others vote for
17:06:44  <planetmaker> what is the problem with that?
17:07:06  <V453000> and then there is the other group of people which is trying to spread the votes around ... which means they do not care about the actual plans
17:07:06  <ppetak> !password
17:07:06  <PublicServer> ppetak: pundit
17:07:23  <Mazur> I do care about the actual plans.
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17:07:51  <V453000> pm: the problem is that we usually have 5 votes that are given without thinking, only based on luck and how the voting already progressed
17:08:11  <planetmaker> how do you know?
17:08:21  <PublicServer> <ppetak> hu
17:09:11  <PublicServer> <ppetak> well, I think most of the names I see on voting board are experienced people who think about what to vote ...
17:09:19  <V453000> pm: when all these people are walking around the server for 2 days not calling the vote, then one person votes, and everybody votest the same as he did, it is kind of suspicious
17:09:20  <planetmaker> how would you know I cast my vote based on a die than me actually looking extensively and then making a well-founded decision based on the plans and my current desire to play a thing along <whatever> lines
17:09:24  <PublicServer> <ppetak> And my will be there soon :)
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17:10:08  <DJNekkid> whats the opposite of gG ?
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17:10:29  <DJNekkid> ehm, wrong channel :P
17:10:31  <V453000> pm: okay, but making a blind-voting without knowing what the current voting state is, is much better ... just like for the title screen
17:10:31  <planetmaker> V453000, it may be suspicious. And yes, it may be that way. But IMHO the trouble of voting differently is not worth it
17:11:32  <Mazur> What I am only trying to do is batle hte blindly voting for the current favourite.  _If_ there are other plans of merit.
17:12:53  <Chris_Booth> one of the problems is people are sheep and will vote the same way, the other is people always vote for V453000 plans
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17:14:26  <Mazur> Tobe fairm, they are generally the most interesting/feasible/realistic/best plans.
17:14:47  <Chris_Booth> Tobe Fairm sounds like a cool guy
17:14:54  <Mazur> He is.
17:14:57  <Chris_Booth> never seen him here befor though
17:15:27  <Mazur> Silent as the breeze, invisible like light from the side.
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17:15:38  <Chris_Booth> lol
17:15:49  <Chris_Booth> maybe Tobe should make a plan :'(
17:15:53  <Chris_Booth> lol
17:16:13  <Chris_Booth> I tend to vote for what even plan looks the nicest or doesn't use the fastest loco
17:16:16  <Mazur> He has one, but this is not the map to try it out.
17:16:37  <Chris_Booth> danr it
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17:17:21  <Chris_Booth> I will add him to the voting board and Blindly Vote for Tobe
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17:28:00  <mfb-> hi
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17:28:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Alo.
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18:48:34  <planetmaker> ppetak, you're the first one to actually explain why you chose which titlegame as your favourites :-)
18:51:35  <ppetak> well, i felt that it behoves :)
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18:58:35  <V453000> felt like spamming you to me :p
19:09:26  <ppetak> well, pub calls :) Today will be special beer, made by old technology from 19th century.
19:09:48  <ppetak> when voting ends? Tomorrow morning?
19:11:54  <planetmaker> voting ends March 1st. So still some days to go
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19:13:48  <scrlk> !password
19:13:48  <PublicServer> scrlk: snares
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19:39:52  <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi
19:39:54  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
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19:55:57  <CyberSoul> @info
19:56:03  <CyberSoul> !info
19:56:03  <PublicServer> CyberSoul: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG 202'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 45324525  Loan: 0  Value: 46211507  (T:11, R:0, P:10, S:0) unprotected
19:56:31  <CyberSoul> @stage
19:56:31  <Webster> CyberSoul: (stage <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "topic set 3 STAGE: ".
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20:13:22  <mrfrenzy_> !dl osx
20:13:22  <PublicServer> mrfrenzy_: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22115/openttd-trunk-r22115-macosx-universal.zip
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20:32:04  <mrfrenzy_> do I need autopilot from trunk to run with openttd r22115?
20:45:07  <planetmaker> quite likely
20:47:07  <mrfrenzy_> 2f60dc8a1b7c is the latest?
20:48:27  <Ammler> mrfrenzy_: not trunk
20:48:34  <Ammler> use the hg repo
20:48:39  <Ammler> !version
20:48:39  <PublicServer> Ammler: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.58f4971eecea)
20:48:53  <Ammler> hmm, might be patched here
20:49:04  <planetmaker> seems likely ;-)
20:49:30  <Ammler> well, just use the latest from hg.openttdcoop.org
20:50:09  <Ammler> and yes, you need it, other don't work anymore
20:59:46  <mrfrenzy_> I did a hg qclone and got the latest version
20:59:56  <mrfrenzy_> when I try to run it I get the following error: http://paste.debian.net/108425/
20:59:57  <Webster> Title: debian Pastezone (at paste.debian.net)
21:04:00  <mrfrenzy_> solved it
21:04:32  <mrfrenzy_> 1.0.5 was the debian package and found the data and lang files in /usr/share, this trunk did not, and gave the above strange error when trying to run it from outside it's build dir
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21:10:59  <lych> !password
21:10:59  <PublicServer> lych: backer
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21:14:17  <PublicServer> TheDarkPassenger: backer
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21:25:55  <PublicServer> scrlk: chatty
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21:26:03  <scrlk> hi all!
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22:35:41  <TheDarkPassenger_> !password
22:35:41  <PublicServer> TheDarkPassenger_: quorum
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23:41:48  <ppetak> !password
23:41:48  <PublicServer> ppetak: rashes
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23:42:20  <PublicServer> <ppetak> huhu
23:42:39  <PublicServer> <ppetak> V is leading the board ..
23:46:41  <PublicServer> <ppetak> not many voters so far ..
23:47:08  <Razaekel> as usual
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23:50:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> narrowly.
23:51:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, I wonder where they are at.
23:51:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Probably in the pub, hmno, weeknight.
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