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00:02:52 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i think its ok 00:05:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> bad signals :/ 00:05:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> did someone do something serious? 00:06:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 00:06:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> and begin SLH/MSH/BBHs sign with a space please 00:06:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well, all of a sudden all the trains decided to come down my sl 00:06:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> no that does not change the signal problem 00:06:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> Xotic: where? 00:06:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 00:07:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> im working on ml... 00:07:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> no, they just cannot escape 00:07:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> see slonham woods 00:08:05 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hmm 00:08:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> what happened to the eastern merge of SLH06? 00:08:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm trying to improve it 00:08:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 00:09:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it was what I was doing when I suddenly noticed all the trains stuck 00:10:20 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i don't understand what's the problem with this signals 00:11:46 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> gn 00:11:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 00:12:29 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 00:12:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 00:12:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012C68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012C68.png 00:13:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i think you will see it when there are trains 00:14:26 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> the signal gap was too long i think 00:15:30 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> now it is ok or? 00:16:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i think it has something to do with waiting trains 00:18:21 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> can you correct it? 00:18:38 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> oh sorry 00:18:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 00:19:09 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i have done it, sorry 00:20:06 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i have to go sleep 00:20:55 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i'm eager to see how my slh has changed tomorrow :D 00:20:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky good night 00:21:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> we will leave it this way :) 00:21:22 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i see :D 00:23:04 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 00:23:10 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 00:24:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> guys 00:25:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you think a single reverser will do ? 00:25:36 <mfb-> where? 00:25:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> SLH xx center 00:26:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> why do you use a reverser at all? 00:26:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 00:27:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i like fancy shit 00:27:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but k :) thx 00:27:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001286C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001286C.png 00:28:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 00:29:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 00:29:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 00:29:31 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 00:29:40 *** mfb- has quit IRC 00:30:33 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:38:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well im also off see ya :) 00:38:15 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 00:38:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:38:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 00:38:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bugger you were the last 00:42:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000265D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000265D.png 00:49:31 <Xotic750> !password 00:49:31 <PublicServer> Xotic750: gables 00:50:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:50:17 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 #1 joined the game 00:50:45 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 #1 has changed his/her name to Maddox 00:51:41 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined company #1 00:51:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:57:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000C67: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000C67.png 01:12:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002456: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002456.png 01:16:48 *** LoPo has quit IRC 01:27:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000245C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000245C.png 01:42:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002260: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002260.png 01:52:35 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 01:52:37 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 01:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 01:52:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> evenin 01:53:11 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 01:54:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> anything exciting happening tonight? 01:54:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not that I know of :) 01:54:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hm. damn. 01:57:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000266A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000266A.png 01:58:53 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1 02:00:23 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I want to improve the livestock drop exit 02:00:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> the traffic is pretty unbalanced 02:02:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> V453 told me to leave it as is for now but I don't know much as I am a beginner 02:03:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what I see is that there are more trains that comes from the drop than from the pickup 02:04:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and there are more chances of those trains that come from the drop waiting at the join 02:04:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and that only happens at 1 of 2 joins 02:04:38 <Xotic750> and I thought he said that balancing the entry would be more important but I'm not sure 02:05:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> welp 02:05:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's not clogging the entry to the complex 02:05:22 <Xotic750> don't take that as gospel 02:05:33 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I guess it's okay 02:05:59 <Xotic750> as I said, I'm not really experienced enough to know 02:06:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm gonna fix the signaling at the drop though 02:06:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's one of those things - signals should be as close to the split as they can be 02:08:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not sure where you mean 02:08:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> at livestock drop.... watch this 02:08:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's where the signals were originally 02:09:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> not sure if you caught that 02:10:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> guess that must have been a accident as V453 showed me that :) 02:10:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but yeah 02:10:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it still uses the 2way-eol signaling 02:10:57 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if anyone showed you anything about it 02:11:25 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/5/55/Psg186_towndrop03.png 02:11:29 <Xotic750> just this 02:12:13 <PublicServer> <Sylf> well.... it is an example.... but doesn't say why 2-way signals should be used there.... 02:12:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> nope 02:12:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000199CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000199CD.png 02:13:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's because of the settings that coop servers use. 02:13:29 <Xotic750> and I read the blog ABR07 02:13:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> rail_firstred_twoway_eol 02:13:57 <Xotic750> no idea what that is :) 02:14:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> That particular setting says, if a 2-way signal is red, 02:14:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> then the pathfinder for any particular train should treat that path as same as dead-end 02:15:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but it only applies if that's the next signal for that train 02:15:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> once you catch on, you'll just go "Ah-huh!" 02:16:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but until then, it'll be a huge "????????" moment 02:16:08 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Penalties 02:16:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's actually more than penalties 02:16:20 <Xotic750> just searched about it :) 02:17:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but... it's like the pathfinder throwing a GIANT penalty point to that particular path 02:17:26 <Xotic750> this means that a red-two way is actually an infinite penalty 02:17:37 <Xotic750> quoted from that page 02:17:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so, it's same thing as that line ending up in a dead-end, practically. 02:17:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup. 02:18:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so, in this drop station case... 02:18:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if any of these plat forms are occupied, those 2-way signals are telling any in-coming trains "DON'T YOU EVER get any idea about coming in to this line!" 02:18:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so it prevent the train waiting outside the first bay if one is in there 02:19:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> or any of the others too 02:19:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so... yup. 02:19:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> useful to know 02:20:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that "eol" setting is not "on" by default installation of openttd 02:20:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but it's so ubiquitously used on coop servers. 02:20:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> any reason for it not being on? 02:20:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I have no diea. 02:21:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I guess, because it wasn't an option for the original ttdx 02:22:10 <PublicServer> <Sylf> brb... 02:22:13 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 02:22:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 02:26:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ...back 02:26:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> wb 02:26:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> anyway. my reason for moving those signals closer to the split actually has nothing to do with that eol setting 02:26:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's more about killing the signal gaps :) 02:27:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> eww, found a CL issue in BBH 02 02:27:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E61: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E61.png 02:28:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I've just been reworking my 1st SLH 02:28:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> looks much better now 02:29:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> 06? 02:29:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 02:29:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> still have 1 bit that's weird 02:29:49 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what's that? 02:29:56 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1 02:30:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what about it? 02:30:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> is it about the split for the trains exiting toward west? 02:30:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I tried some thing and that was the best solution I could work out 02:31:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes to west 02:31:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I don't know why the trains prefer the inner ML track 02:31:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> BTW, go fix the !CL 02:31:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I added that long feedback you can see to stop them piling in that track 02:32:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that thing has to do with the penalties that trains see in each path 02:32:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> finding that penalty value is... beyond me 02:32:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what you have will work okay for now 02:33:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> other wise, you can also add an artifitial penalty using a 2-way path signal 02:33:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that was the best I could figure out, some people said to try adding road crossing but that didn't help 02:33:53 <PublicServer> <Sylf> like that 02:34:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> still seems to prefer that track 02:34:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> actually, the trains now prefer the outer track more 02:36:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, that seems to be working :) 02:36:49 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that path signal gives just enough penalty for the pathfinder. 02:37:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> anyway, go fix that !CL I marked in the same SLH 02:37:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, that area wasn't much used and I was going to work there :) 02:37:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> easy fix. 02:38:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 02:38:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> s) 02:38:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but otherwise - it looks ok? 02:38:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ;{ 02:38:23 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yu. 02:38:25 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup 02:38:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> damn cat D: 02:38:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> sorry, my cat is literally on my hand/keyboard 02:39:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bbs 02:42:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E5B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E5B.png 02:53:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bk 02:55:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just need some wood in my little area and then I could see the rest of my SLH working :) 02:57:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hmmm, looks like SLH 10 is somewhat broken 02:57:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000115E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000115E1.png 02:58:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> he was coming back later to finish it 02:58:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> he was working with lopo I think 02:58:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and they said they would continue 02:58:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I somehow created a loop that bunch of trains are using 03:00:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> whaaaaat TF 03:00:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ? 03:01:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> trying to figure out 03:01:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> why the trains are coming to the new station 03:02:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ah, mystery solved 03:12:51 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there, we now have a forest attached to SLH 06 03:12:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003665: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003665.png 03:13:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok :) 03:13:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's ugly as sin though 03:15:54 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Is Maddox around? 03:16:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I haven't heard a peep from him all night... 03:18:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> dunno 03:18:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'll give him a few minutes to reply... 03:19:01 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Idling without presence defeats the setting of minimum active player of 2 03:19:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I got scorned once for that exact same action in my earliest days :) 03:19:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> what's the idea behind that? 03:19:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> This is a coop server. 03:19:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> You can't do cooperative playing with 1 player 03:20:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but not if all the player are in the same TZ :) 03:20:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> *other 03:20:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I know, which is actually an unfortunate side effect of the fact that most of the players of this game are from Euro zone 03:20:57 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has left the game (leaving) 03:21:01 <PublicServer> <Sylf> We need more players from other time zones :) 03:21:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :o He was active 03:21:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I guess, not really paying much attention, except to have nickalert on 03:22:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> IRC in game is a bit painful 03:22:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It only takes only a few weeks of getting used to it 03:22:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have my client running too, but it alerts me every time I send a message 03:23:14 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Web IRC is pretty smart about that... 03:23:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I have XChat running 03:23:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> Else, you can add Public Server in your ignore list 03:23:58 <PublicServer> <Sylf> And use just slightly different nick between X-Chat and the game 03:24:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> XChat alerts mer whenever it see my name in the message :P 03:24:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so you can add your in-game nick to your alert list 03:24:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I could just turn off alerts but then I deaf to other channels 03:24:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I was X-Chat user too, until my ubuntu irc proxy crapped out on me... 03:25:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> So I know that frustration, and I found my own work-around 03:25:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> So, disable any alerts if the alert is coming from PublicServer 03:26:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but then I don't notice people when they call out my nick, lol 03:27:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I don't always see the message at the bottome of ottd 03:27:07 <PublicServer> <Sylf> So, use different nick in the game... like X0tic750 03:27:14 <PublicServer> <Sylf> then force alert for that word 03:27:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> wait... that doesn't work... 03:27:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, I should sort it out 03:27:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but you get the idea 03:27:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 03:27:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CF56: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CF56.png 03:28:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I need to go fix my own situation :P 03:28:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> My broken Ubuntu box.... *sigh* 03:28:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm on F14 03:29:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> Fedora 14 03:29:54 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm too lazy to run fedora 03:30:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> or re-learn rpm 03:30:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I haven't touched rpm since... early Red Hat days 03:30:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just yum it does it 03:30:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, I kinda found yum 03:31:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and for rpm's just yum install rpmname 03:31:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but I forget "yum" too fast :P 03:31:22 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :P 03:31:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oops, that shows my age 03:32:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I was a RH user ;) 03:34:03 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and before that a number of other unix's 03:34:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> infact when I started with the internet, there was mail, telnet and ftp, lol 03:34:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ah, kernel 1.0 user. 03:35:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think the first I used was Xenix 03:35:54 <PublicServer> <Sylf> *shudder* 03:36:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> the original microsoft unix 03:36:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> on an Olivetti L1M20 03:36:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> with 5 1/4 floppies and a massive 5Mb HDD :P 03:37:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and that was a top of the range machine back then, really expensive 03:37:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I don't go that far back. Far from it 03:39:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> aaaanyway. 03:39:22 <Xotic750> although it was Xenix I think they called the OS - PCOS 03:39:35 <Xotic750> http://www.z80ne.com/m20/ 03:39:44 <Xotic750> now that shows my age :P 03:40:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hahahah XD 03:40:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> at least it look like it's a "micro" computer 03:41:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, but so did the PET 03:41:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> No idea. 03:41:55 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 03:42:02 <Xotic750> http://oldcomputers.net/pet2001.html 03:42:04 <Webster> Title: Commodore PET 2001 computer (at oldcomputers.net) 03:42:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I didn't come to the presence of *nix until '96 03:42:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> holy.... crap... 03:42:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C361: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C361.png 03:42:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no unix available to me then, all the machines ran BASIC or machine code 03:43:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol 03:43:19 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh, one of THOSE machinges 03:43:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> BASIC was THE instruction language... 03:45:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> nah, you could also program in HEX or binary too if you wanted :P 03:45:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> then you had some pneumonic languages too 03:46:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but that's really get sad :) 03:46:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah. Insanity in my view. 03:48:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I need to join this steel inject back into the system 03:48:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what's that? 03:48:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I redid the balancer I made on the entrance 03:48:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think it looks more correct now? 03:49:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well, looking at the wiki anyway 03:49:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> still on SLH 06? 03:49:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> at steel pickup 03:50:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ah, the injection 03:50:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> tightened it up a bit, and changed the signalling like in the wiki 03:50:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> let me offer you some more stuff 03:51:25 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there, we have some prio, right 03:52:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> sorry where 03:52:25 <PublicServer> <Sylf> at Steel Train Injection 03:52:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I just notivced that there is another injection earlier in the system 03:52:41 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I thought that's where we were 03:53:07 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh.... there's also an injection by V... 03:53:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 03:53:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's the one I disconnected when I revised the balancer above it 03:54:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> V's injection works by having so much delay between series of trains being dispatched 03:54:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> the new injection is more about injecting steel trains in balanced manner 03:55:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so we get rid of V's ? 03:55:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's disconnected... no need to destroy it 03:55:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 03:56:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's good to know why it's built the way it is though 03:56:50 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hrm, we can do something about that balancer next to V's injection though.... 03:57:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there. 03:57:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but that's different to the wiki? 03:57:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C75F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C75F.png 03:58:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the wiki has a entry, combo and exit 03:58:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's all about having enough waiting space for each trains, without blocking other trains unnecessarily 03:58:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I'm not sure which wiki page you read 03:59:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but now it doesn't havve the same function as before 03:59:44 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Balancing 04:00:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ah, that page... 04:00:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that really apply more for the hubs 04:00:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I know, copying the examples is the first step of the learning... 04:01:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we'll try to extend the sampled knowledge 04:01:31 <Xotic750> and here it's different again 04:01:32 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/7/74/Pre_balanced_roro.PNG 04:01:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> see, where I just turned the track to maglev... 04:01:53 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's 3 tiles 04:02:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> enough space for a train to sit and wait 04:02:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> in any balancer, you want to have that space for any post-split lines 04:02:36 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, but what about this as signalling then, watch near maglev 04:03:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there's the entry signal A 04:03:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> When a train goes through A, we have the choice to take the northern or southern route 04:04:00 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if either light is red, the train will take the other route 04:04:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if both are red, A will be red too. The train will wait at A. 04:04:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so the balancer works perfectly that way. 04:05:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> now you changed some of those block signals to pre-signals 04:05:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm trying to see if there is any difference with them signalled in these 2 ways just now 04:06:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it kinda makes sense, but it's actually meaningless 04:06:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> let me show you why 04:06:21 <Xotic750> yes, that was what I was thinking 04:06:32 <Xotic750> but it shows it like that in the wiki 04:06:32 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/7/74/Pre_balanced_roro.PNG 04:06:40 <PublicServer> <Sylf> beceause there's the split right there, where I change to maglev 04:06:50 <PublicServer> <Sylf> when a train is sitting in those 3 tiles, 04:07:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> both of those entry signas would be red by default 04:07:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so it's same as having signals that way 04:07:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, I guess the wiki needs updating for newbies like me :) 04:08:00 <PublicServer> <Sylf> except both will turn green a bit faster than if they were pre-signals 04:08:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, those wiki pages really need serious updates... 04:08:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> most of the knowledged players are too lazy to update :P 04:08:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> they are alot of what I have to work with 04:08:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> including myself 04:08:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 04:10:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but more importantly.... 04:10:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if anyone notice that trains are getting stuck at these spots very frequently, 04:10:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's a sign that steel pickup should be expanded :P 04:11:12 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we have an extra signal on tha bottom line of the balancer now? 04:11:14 <PublicServer> <Sylf> instead of trying to optimise the balancer without much useful impromements 04:11:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that bottom line signal is... 04:11:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that waiting spot being accounted for 04:12:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what I just marked is .... 04:12:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 04:12:17 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oops, that's 4 tiles... 04:12:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but there's still enough for 3TL trains to get in without blocking the other line 04:12:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CF57: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CF57.png 04:13:26 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, this is a pathetic point... when we really start counting those tiles at EACH split 04:13:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but that 's what makes the effective balancer 04:14:17 <Xotic750> so the balancer at goods pickup is wrong then 04:14:51 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the line under the bridge 04:14:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not enough space? 04:14:57 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there we go 04:15:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> you were right about that 04:15:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> so I made a dirty fix with PBS 04:16:09 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that an entry signal still? 04:16:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's actually a 1-way PBS 04:16:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> see the red light 04:17:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the one before the split of the bottom of the balancer? 04:17:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> see the difference detween those 2? 04:17:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> top is entry block sig 04:17:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> bottom is 1-way PBS 04:18:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, they are using different to normal ottd signals 04:18:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's why 04:18:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup. 04:18:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that makes it difficult for me 04:18:48 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It might be attached to the YARR grf.... not sure 04:18:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> as I'm colour blind :) 04:19:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> e 04:19:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> red color blind? 04:19:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> red/green 04:19:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yikes. 04:19:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's deadly in this game 04:20:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and why the eol for the other signal? 04:20:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we have eol set for both lines after that split 04:21:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yes, but why in this case? 04:21:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> let's just say, it's a good practice to place 2-way block signals in these cases, where we have a split right after a PBS 04:22:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> see that one maglev section 04:22:40 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's exactly 3 tiles long 04:22:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> y 04:23:14 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if a train is in that spot, that block before the 2-way signal is open for the following train 04:23:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but because of the 2way-eol rule, the following train should take the other line 04:23:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 04:24:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's that kind of thinking process that people make 04:24:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> how long have you been playing this? 04:24:57 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I joined this server about 14 months ago 04:25:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> before that, I played OTTD for couple of months 04:25:25 <PublicServer> <Sylf> before that, I never even heard of TTD 04:26:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I remeber playing with TTD when it irst came out on the Amiga 04:26:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but now this is my second game :) 04:26:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but I never went into such detail 04:27:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I never knew there was such thing as transport... or train tycoon or anything like it....... 04:27:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I just happened to read something about this "OTTD" thingy hitting version 1.0 on ./ 04:27:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CFD3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001CFD3.png 04:28:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it was some time ago, around 92 I think 04:28:58 <PublicServer> <Sylf> ./ -> -/. 04:29:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> anyway, the balancers are a bit better now :) 04:29:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I have a little new knowledge 04:29:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> brb 04:29:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> aaaanyway. I learned all these geeky tricks.... but now too lazy to apply it. 04:33:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 04:34:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> spose I should have a look at the forrest now that's done 04:34:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha :P 04:34:23 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh 04:34:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> pft. ugly as f*** 04:35:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well nothin else much over there except a coal mine 04:35:41 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ah, ore too 04:35:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> now that you mention that coal mine... 04:36:01 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we have 2 ore mines, and a forest too 04:36:19 <PublicServer> <Sylf> nah. too much pain. 04:36:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and another forrest and ore further down that peninsula 04:36:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> unless we connect those to SLH 09 04:37:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> 9 is closer 04:38:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there. Go nuts :P 04:38:47 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :P 04:39:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not that it helps me watching my SLH 04:39:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> waiing to see a wood go out and back :) 04:41:11 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> there wood in 04:41:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and wood out :) 04:42:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh? 04:42:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well it is my 1st SLH 04:42:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EE93: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EE93.png 04:43:44 <PublicServer> <Sylf> anyway, Fleningley Coal Mine is online now 04:43:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok the back facing pbs didn't stop the wood out using the outer track 04:44:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> back facing pbs doesn't stop anything ever 04:44:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> they only work as penalties 04:45:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, wasn't strong enough penalty I guess 04:45:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> depends on the situation 04:45:53 <PublicServer> <Sylf> now, take a look at !CL just east of there 04:45:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oh bugger 04:46:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I must have miscounted 04:46:33 <PublicServer> <Sylf> looks like we have to resort to using PBS there 04:47:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> dope 04:47:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's much harder without the guidelines 04:47:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> actually... 04:48:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so do we need the 2 wayblock signals in this case? 04:48:09 <PublicServer> <Sylf> what to do with that new !CL 04:48:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we can use 2way there too... 04:49:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> bugger, lol 04:51:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hrmrmrm 04:54:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> grrr 04:57:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C5C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001C5C.png 04:59:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that should do it 04:59:54 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is the pbs necessary ther? 05:00:06 <PublicServer> <Sylf> at the split? 05:00:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh, which PBS? 05:00:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, does it not fit? 05:00:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> looks like it fits 05:01:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> thare we go 05:01:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> nice 05:01:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and you do your prios in a different way, any reason? 05:02:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> like, which prio? 05:02:30 <PublicServer> <Sylf> is it different? 05:03:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that kind of differenc? 05:03:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> or.... 05:03:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guess not, just longer and with track in middle 05:03:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that kind? 05:04:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> see the ones I copied a little to the west 05:04:09 <PublicServer> <Sylf> any of those are same 05:04:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> at my exit 05:04:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> actually, that's better 05:05:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there's no possible way for ML line to trying to make through the prio line 05:05:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> otherwise, it's all the same 05:06:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but yes, you have extra tracks in midlle 05:06:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oooooooh, that. 05:06:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's so that we don't have the lapse of red light on the side line 05:07:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> wthout that line there, you may see a flicker of signal on the side line 05:08:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so mine are bad then 05:08:12 <PublicServer> <Sylf> nope. 05:08:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's good, because it's short. 05:08:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's relative to the length of the trains we're using 05:09:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there, I added an extra line in yours 05:09:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> but it's actually no different without that extra line 05:10:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> when you really catch on, you'll be counting tiles CONSTANTLY 05:10:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so you could do short ones like that instead of your longer ones and they would be fine too? 05:11:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> the size of splits, size of balancer, size of prio... etc 05:11:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yours isn't realy that short 05:12:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but yours are twice as long 05:12:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just trying to understand 05:13:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004C77: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004C77.png 05:13:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> there, I just built A and B 05:13:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> they're actually exactly the same thing 05:14:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but the flickering is because of the length no? 05:14:51 <PublicServer> <Sylf> if there's no middle line in the version A, the entry presignal will flicker 05:15:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and that's because we're using TL3 05:15:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I think it might flicker with TL5 05:15:41 <PublicServer> <Sylf> But with TL6 and longer, we wouldn't need that middle line in version A 05:16:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> aha, the pre signals are actually different 05:17:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> you don't have the 2 way combo 05:17:35 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we can actually extend A version easier 05:18:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> now we have the longer version 05:19:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and we still have pbs infront of the bridge right? 05:19:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah. 05:19:28 <PublicServer> <Sylf> anything beyond A or B are irrelevant 05:20:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and we should have the 2 way block again then? 05:20:49 <PublicServer> <Sylf> oh yeah 05:22:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, so I wonder if the back facing pbs will work now 05:23:04 <PublicServer> <Sylf> like that? 05:23:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 05:23:20 <PublicServer> <Sylf> hrm 05:23:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> as the outer track always appears busier 05:23:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we should put it like that 05:23:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> in that direction 05:24:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> train coming 05:24:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> he went to outside 05:24:38 <PublicServer> <Sylf> apparently, that line still has lower penalty 05:25:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> another one coming soon 05:26:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and the penalty point is competed as sum of distance to the destination, number of red signals within next 10 signals, number of uphills, number of curves, etc... 05:26:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> went to inside that time 05:27:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> maybe the otherone already had a route planned 05:27:16 <PublicServer> <Sylf> who knows.... 05:27:34 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and we only have 2 trains that will ever use that balancer :D 05:27:37 <PublicServer> <Sylf> It's not biggy 05:27:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I know, it's more for understanding 05:28:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C59: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001C59.png 05:28:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's why I haven't really branched off and doing other things 05:28:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> outside this time, lol 05:29:05 <PublicServer> <Sylf> sounds like... too conservative 05:29:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and now sits there for ages waiting a gap 05:29:46 <PublicServer> <Sylf> nice 05:29:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hurrah he made it out, lol 05:29:59 <PublicServer> <Sylf> that's a living example of a prio 05:30:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> outside again 05:30:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> does adding more back facing pbs add more penalty? 05:31:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup. 05:31:09 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's 1500 penalty point per PBS 05:31:15 <PublicServer> <Sylf> or.... 05:32:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's like I was trying with the other one earlier 05:32:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, I remember 05:32:41 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but looks better :P 05:33:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> choo choo 05:33:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> inner 05:33:56 <PublicServer> <Sylf> obvious choice :P 05:35:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but this isn't really about penalties in this case, it's actual feedback from thh ML 05:35:27 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup. 05:35:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> from the prio 05:35:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> inner :) 05:36:10 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :o I missed it 05:37:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> we'll try 2 back-facing PBS 05:37:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> one coming but I need to get my tea before it gets cold :P 05:38:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> inner 05:39:08 <PublicServer> <Sylf> drats 05:39:14 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it's way past midnight 05:39:36 <PublicServer> <Sylf> i'ma gonna go goodnight 05:39:39 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no shit, it's 6.39 in the morning, :P 05:39:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> lol 05:39:53 <PublicServer> <Sylf> not that bad here 05:39:57 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:39:57 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:39:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> inner 05:40:43 <Sylf> aight. g'night 05:40:53 *** Sylf has quit IRC 05:40:55 <Xotic750> yeah, have a good one ;) 05:43:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E58: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E58.png 05:54:42 <Xotic750> !password 05:54:42 <PublicServer> Xotic750: feting 05:55:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:55:08 <PublicServer> *** Maddox joined the game 05:55:11 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined company #1 05:55:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:58:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000010A4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000010A4.png 06:13:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000AD8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000AD8.png 06:22:08 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 06:28:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000006D1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000006D1.png 06:43:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000068C6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000068C6.png 06:58:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000016DA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000016DA.png 07:07:10 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined spectators 07:07:10 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:10:18 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 07:13:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000068BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000068BE.png 07:19:07 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:23:59 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has joined company #1 07:23:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:28:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000AA9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000AA9.png 07:28:47 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017BDB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017BDB.png 07:44:10 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 07:58:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A170: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A170.png 08:01:28 <V453000> !password 08:01:28 <PublicServer> V453000: extols 08:01:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 08:01:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 08:02:08 <PublicServer> *** Maddox has left the game (leaving) 08:02:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 08:06:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> starting to look busy 08:06:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> goods ML in particular 08:06:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> but not just there :) 08:07:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> reworked my SLH 08:07:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 08:07:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not as pretty without the loop though :) 08:13:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002459: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002459.png 08:17:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:17:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 08:17:45 <V453000> later 08:17:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> cya 08:19:01 *** Firartix has quit IRC 08:28:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000263: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000263.png 08:32:23 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 08:39:57 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has left the game (leaving) 08:40:24 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:41:39 <pugi> good morning :D 08:43:33 <V453000> greetings dark liege pugi 08:43:51 <pugi> dark liege? 08:46:24 <pugi> !password 08:46:24 <PublicServer> pugi: flunks 08:46:34 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:46:34 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 08:50:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> 128+816 tonnes forests :D 08:50:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> and 560 tonnes forest 08:50:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> 40/30 trains are still not enough :D 08:51:05 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 09:59:44 *** Phazorx_ is now known as Phazorx 10:15:03 *** Razaekal has joined #openttdcoop 10:15:03 *** Razaekel is now known as Guest15535 10:15:03 *** Razaekal is now known as Razaekel 10:17:13 <dihedral> Ammler? i could do with your attention regarding an email ;-) 10:17:49 <dihedral> a misconfiguration caused a bounce .... it came from your mailserver 10:17:53 <dihedral> originated from startcom 10:18:28 *** Guest15535 has quit IRC 10:22:46 <dihedral> or someone who can check the mail kept you our mail server (perhaps planetmaker?) 10:27:56 <planetmaker> sorry, the pw for that is at home :-) 10:29:59 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** LXSJason has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** orudge has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** `real has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** md_ has quit IRC 10:35:21 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 10:35:32 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop 10:35:49 *** md_ has joined #openttdcoop 10:36:17 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 10:38:42 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 10:42:50 <dihedral> hehe 10:42:58 * dihedral greets the Phazorx :-) 10:45:47 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 10:45:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 11:00:50 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:02:27 <Phazorx> the Phazorx? 11:02:30 <Phazorx> ... like there are any others 11:02:42 <Phazorx> heya dih 11:02:44 <Phazorx> what's new? 11:08:40 <dihedral> :-) 11:10:17 <dihedral> not much 11:13:04 <Phazorx> did something fun for a halloween? 11:34:07 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 12:51:07 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:55:57 *** ODM has quit IRC 14:12:08 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 14:12:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 14:18:08 *** thomashauk has joined #openttdcoop 14:18:11 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 14:18:24 *** thomashauk has joined #openttdcoop 14:24:56 <thomashauk> Ah, its been a while 14:25:04 <thomashauk> !download 14:25:04 <PublicServer> thomashauk: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 14:25:04 <PublicServer> thomashauk: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 14:25:50 <thomashauk> !download autottd 14:25:50 <PublicServer> thomashauk: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD 14:26:59 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 14:27:15 <pugi> !password 14:27:15 <PublicServer> pugi: flunks 14:27:35 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:27:35 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 14:29:23 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 14:38:54 *** thomashauk1 has joined #openttdcoop 14:40:25 <thomashauk1> !password 14:40:25 <PublicServer> thomashauk1: flunks 14:40:35 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:40:36 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 14:45:21 *** thomashauk has quit IRC 14:46:47 <thomashauk1> Wait, an imposter! 14:47:00 *** thomashauk1 is now known as thomashauk 14:47:06 <thomashauk> That's better 14:49:59 <pugi> :D 14:51:55 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 14:52:25 <thomashauk> Looks about done already 14:54:26 <pugi> nooo 14:54:29 <pugi> there is more to be done :D 14:54:31 <pugi> more primaries 15:02:28 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:07:55 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:17:17 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 15:27:24 <pugi> !playercount 15:27:25 <PublicServer> pugi: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 15:28:48 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 15:35:21 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:14 <Tray> !password 15:37:14 <PublicServer> Tray: flunks 15:37:25 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:37:28 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 15:50:39 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:07 <Thorinbur> Welcome all. 15:51:20 <Thorinbur> Do you still remember me? 15:51:26 <V453000> sure we do, hi :p 15:51:38 <Thorinbur> It;s been a loong time since my last visit 15:51:59 <Thorinbur> Whats going on on the server? I think i will join later today 15:52:24 <Thorinbur> Even if only to spectate for a little while. 15:53:02 <Thorinbur> !download win64 15:53:02 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-windows-win64.zip 15:58:56 <Thorinbur> ok i am off to play some L4D2 will be back later today 15:58:59 *** Thorinbur has quit IRC 16:00:38 <pugi> i wonder why noone recommends ottd autoupdate here 16:00:46 <pugi> it is so easy with it... 16:01:04 <pugi> you just click on it 16:01:05 * planetmaker does recommend it... 16:01:28 <pugi> well, didn't you program it? :P 16:16:47 <planetmaker> I didn't 16:16:56 <planetmaker> iirc it is Zuu's creation 16:17:33 <V453000> yes Zuu :) 16:17:51 <V453000> or at least he presented it on the forums 16:18:10 <pugi> ^^ 16:18:15 <pugi> i like it 16:18:21 <pugi> and use it always to start 16:18:32 <pugi> just click on it, enter the password and you can play 16:18:55 <planetmaker> yup. Very nice and easy 16:19:02 <V453000> you dont even need the password with genkey, do you 16:22:10 <pugi> well, it would be nice, if you can automate it 16:23:49 <TWerkhoven> if a member makes you a genkey, you can put that url in the password field in the launcher 16:24:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:24:43 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 16:26:43 <pugi> ah okay 16:26:44 <pugi> great 16:26:51 <pugi> V, DO EET! 16:27:50 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1 16:27:50 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:33:52 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 16:39:06 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:28 *** thomashauk1 has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021573: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00021573.png 16:43:46 <thomashauk1> !players 16:43:49 <PublicServer> thomashauk1: Client 1518 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 16:43:49 <PublicServer> thomashauk1: Client 1529 (Orange) is TWerkhoven, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 16:44:03 <pugi> !password 16:44:03 <PublicServer> pugi: primer 16:44:03 *** thomashauk1 is now known as thomashauk 16:44:11 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 16:44:27 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 16:51:07 <XeryusTC> <Thorinbur> Do you still remember me? <- no 16:54:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:54:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:58:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E392: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E392.png 17:13:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038E83: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038E83.png 17:14:11 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 17:14:24 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:54 *** Thorinbur has joined #openttdcoop 17:16:05 <Thorinbur> !password 17:16:06 <PublicServer> Thorinbur: stinks 17:19:17 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur joined the game 17:20:41 *** pugi has quit IRC 17:21:30 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop 17:25:52 <PublicServer> *** Thorinbur has left the game (leaving) 17:26:11 *** DayDreamer2 has joined #openttdcoop 17:26:41 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 17:27:51 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop 17:27:54 <LoPo> hello 17:27:58 <LoPo> !password 17:27:58 <PublicServer> LoPo: aprons 17:28:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CFA4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003CFA4.png 17:28:36 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 17:29:34 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 17:30:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> HELLO! :D 17:30:58 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> ello 17:31:08 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Hello 17:34:14 *** Alastair_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:34:23 <Alastair_> !password 17:34:23 <PublicServer> Alastair_: aprons 17:34:38 <PublicServer> *** Alastair joined the game 17:34:39 <PublicServer> <Alastair> Hey 17:35:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 17:35:27 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:35:31 <PublicServer> *** Alastair has joined company #1 17:35:35 <PublicServer> <Alastair> Hi 17:37:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:41:55 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 17:41:55 *** Tray has quit IRC 17:42:26 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:40 <PublicServer> <Alastair> caN I add primaries to slh 09? 17:43:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038724: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00038724.png 17:43:32 <MrD2DG> !password 17:43:32 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: haloed 17:43:41 <PublicServer> *** Alastair has left the game (leaving) 17:43:47 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hi 17:43:47 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG joined the game 17:45:44 <Alastair_> !password 17:45:44 <PublicServer> Alastair_: haloed 17:46:12 <PublicServer> *** Alastair joined the game 17:46:21 <PublicServer> *** Alastair has left the game (leaving) 17:46:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thomashauk: why did you connect to west while there is no grain anyway? :P 17:46:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at SLH 07 17:46:54 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Just about to add some grain 17:47:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm 17:47:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> fair enough but fix that CL ;P 17:48:01 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Where? 17:48:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at your grain station 17:50:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thomashauk: it can be easialy fixed ;) 17:50:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> check this :) 17:50:50 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 17:51:20 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Now the super long bridge is even longer 17:51:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> longer? 17:51:37 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 17:52:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> if your looking for super long bridges look in the north west ;p 17:54:53 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 17:55:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do we have a station which showes howmuch grain is w8ing? 17:57:16 <V453000> I think containers are usable for that, thought not too sure 17:58:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006F42: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006F42.png 17:58:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nope :( but thx for the suguestion 17:58:53 *** Nico has joined #openttdcoop 17:59:06 <Nico> Hi there 17:59:15 <Nico> My name is Nico 17:59:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> orly? 17:59:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 17:59:32 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> We'd never have guessed 17:59:38 <Nico> lol 17:59:50 <Nico> Are you having a good game? 18:00:14 <V453000> we sure are, welcome :p 18:00:56 <Nico> I have already played coop a few years ago, and I'm amazed that there are still coop games running today 18:02:10 <Nico> I have a couple of questions. I don't want to annoy you, and I know there's a great coop website here with plenty of useful info 18:02:12 <V453000> why would they not :P we still have something to improve 18:02:24 <V453000> dont ask to ask, ask :p 18:02:35 <Nico> here's the deal 18:02:40 <Nico> i have linux 18:02:51 <Nico> but i'm a linuw newbee 18:03:20 <Nico> i dowloaded openttd from the ubuntu software library 18:03:47 <Nico> i can play nthe game in its 1.0.0 version 18:03:48 <hylje> you'll need something a little more sophisticated 18:03:52 <thomashauk> We use a nightly version 18:03:55 <hylje> !dl 18:03:55 <PublicServer> hylje: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x 18:03:55 <PublicServer> hylje: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r23044 18:03:57 <hylje> !dl lin64 18:03:57 <PublicServer> hylje: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 18:04:21 <thomashauk> !dl lin 18:04:21 <PublicServer> thomashauk: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 18:04:29 <thomashauk> He might be on 32 bit 18:04:51 <Nico> i think i'll try the 32 bits version 18:05:51 <Nico> @publicserver: what does "!dl" mean? 18:06:03 <thomashauk> Download 18:06:33 <Nico> ok, thanks 18:07:08 *** Zeknurn has quit IRC 18:07:22 <Nico> is it something i have to type in that linux program window thing? 18:08:04 <Nico> btw, any germans here? 18:08:09 <thomashauk> No, its command we use in here to show the download links 18:08:54 <Nico> alright 18:09:31 <Nico> so, i clicked the first link and then clicked the 32 bit download link 18:09:36 <Nico> save or open? 18:09:46 <TWerkhoven> save 18:09:51 <TWerkhoven> and then extract 18:10:41 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined spectators 18:10:42 <Nico> extract into any folder? 18:10:55 *** Zeknurn has joined #openttdcoop 18:11:02 <TWerkhoven> yes, where you want the game to be installed 18:11:51 *** Alastair_ has quit IRC 18:12:00 <Nico> oh, cool, the game is inside the folder and it works 18:12:11 <Nico> i guess i have to install the opengfx now 18:12:12 <TWerkhoven> !autostart 18:12:12 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 18:12:25 <TWerkhoven> and get the grf pack as well 18:13:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg 18:13:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003AC04: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003AC04.png 18:13:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> my house was on fire :| 18:13:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but its oky now :P 18:14:19 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 18:14:58 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 18:14:59 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:15:25 <Nico> the link (http://svn.openttdcoop.org/ottdbash/autostart/) has plenty of folders and files, what should i dl? 18:15:50 <TWerkhoven> !quickstart 18:15:54 <TWerkhoven> @quickstart 18:15:55 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:15:57 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:05 <TWerkhoven> try that one, autostart is something else 18:16:17 <Nico> k 18:17:37 <Nico> "join irc" done 18:17:54 <Nico> "get correct openttd version" done?? 18:18:40 <TWerkhoven> yup 18:20:40 <Nico> ok, newgrf package dowloaded and extracted 18:21:52 <TWerkhoven> ottd working? 18:22:09 <planetmaker> !dl ottdau 18:22:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater 18:22:20 <TWerkhoven> hes on linux pm 18:22:39 <planetmaker> aye :-) then autostart is the only feasible 18:23:09 <Nico> i found the server 18:23:16 <Nico> can i have the password pls? 18:23:28 <TWerkhoven> !password 18:23:28 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven: indict 18:23:51 <V453000> read @@quickstart please 18:23:52 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:26:28 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:30 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:32 <KyleS> !password 18:26:33 <PublicServer> KyleS: impels 18:26:36 <Maraxus> !password 18:26:36 <PublicServer> Maraxus: impels 18:26:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:26:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:26:44 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 18:26:53 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 18:27:08 <Nico> it seems i can't join the game because i haven't got all the newgrf needed 18:27:19 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 18:27:23 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 18:27:45 <PublicServer> <KyleS> Nico, can you download them using the online content thing at the opening screen? 18:28:09 <Nico> there is a red dot in front of them so i can't clik on dl 18:28:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C1E9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C1E9.png 18:28:47 <PublicServer> <KyleS> :( 18:29:47 <V453000> Nico: read the quickstart, that will solve your issues 18:30:01 <Maraxus> !grf 18:30:01 <PublicServer> Maraxus: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 18:31:54 <Nico> i'm lost, that's so much infoirmation... i'm reading that bananas webpage now, we'll see... 18:36:44 <Nico> !password 18:36:44 <PublicServer> Nico: impels 18:37:01 <PublicServer> *** Nico joined the game 18:37:05 <PublicServer> <Nico> hi there! 18:37:12 <PublicServer> <KyleS> hai! 18:37:42 <PublicServer> <Nico> wow it's been a long time since i last played 18:37:52 <PublicServer> <Nico> oh, by the way... 18:38:14 <PublicServer> <Nico> I am a troll and I'm going to destroy all your stations!!! 18:38:18 <PublicServer> <Nico> JUST KIDDING 18:39:16 <PublicServer> <Nico> that's a lot of wwater 18:39:31 <PublicServer> <KyleS> mhm 18:39:54 <PublicServer> <KyleS> and really long bridges O: 18:40:15 <PublicServer> <Nico> so 'ima watch first, before i build anything 18:40:51 <PublicServer> <Nico> an,y tips on things i should observe to get an idea of how you work? 18:41:29 <PublicServer> <Nico> if i remember, you have like subsidiary lines, main lines, branch and stufs... 18:41:41 <PublicServer> <KyleS> well in these games we have a network plan 18:42:01 <V453000> which ... is in the quickstart 18:42:13 <PublicServer> <Nico> i know... 18:42:24 <PublicServer> <KyleS> many dots ....... 18:42:27 <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol 18:42:41 <PublicServer> <Nico> he way, just a suggestion: you should delete the "quick" in quickstart ;) 18:43:09 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 18:43:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i think it is quick O_o 18:43:25 <Dominik2000> hello 18:43:35 <Dominik2000> !password 18:43:35 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: kimono 18:44:04 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 18:44:36 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 18:46:31 <planetmaker> hm... kimono :-) 18:47:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol 18:47:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the injector is not connected 18:48:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at steel 18:56:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 18:58:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000142C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000142C8.png 18:58:35 <PublicServer> <Nico> ok guys, i'm going to read the quikstart guide further and i'll be back 18:58:39 <PublicServer> <Nico> cya 18:58:45 <PublicServer> <KyleS> k, later 18:59:28 <PublicServer> *** Nico has left the game (leaving) 18:59:35 *** Nico has quit IRC 19:01:22 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:02:11 <pugi> :) 19:02:32 <pugi> !playercount 19:02:32 <PublicServer> pugi: Number of players: 6 (1 spectators) 19:02:53 <V453000> !genkey 19:02:53 <PublicServer> V453000: !genkey [-d|--delete] nick: generates a key for autojoin 19:03:00 <V453000> !genkey pugi 19:03:00 <PublicServer> V453000: Key sent to pugi 19:03:07 <pugi> :O 19:03:18 <pugi> awesome =) 19:03:20 <V453000> I dont know how it works but this sould do it 19:03:51 <hylje> !genkey 19:03:51 <PublicServer> hylje: !genkey [-d|--delete] nick: generates a key for autojoin 19:03:55 <hylje> !genkey hylje 19:03:55 <PublicServer> hylje: Key sent to hylje 19:03:57 <Xotic750> !password 19:03:57 <PublicServer> Xotic750: benign 19:04:02 <pugi> i'll try to find out :D 19:04:09 <V453000> that is a good way :P 19:04:18 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 joined the game 19:04:24 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 19:04:32 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 19:04:48 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 19:04:52 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 19:10:34 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 19:11:01 *** KyleS has quit IRC 19:11:29 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> Is anyone working on SLH 11? 19:13:05 <pugi> aha! 19:13:11 <pugi> Generates a key for the user to get the server password from the internet. The URL is relative to http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/ for the Public Server and http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/ for the Pro Zone 19:13:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002797B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002797B.png 19:13:57 <pugi> it worked =) 19:13:58 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 19:16:39 <V453000> :) 19:19:03 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 19:19:06 *** Dominik2000 has quit IRC 19:19:13 *** sla_ro|vista has joined #openttdcoop 19:21:16 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:28:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025172: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025172.png 19:37:24 *** DarkTomas has joined #openttdcoop 19:37:30 <DarkTomas> Hello 19:37:37 <DarkTomas> where i can find an about ? 19:37:54 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 19:38:07 <pugi> about what? 19:38:18 <DarkTomas> what is openttdcoop 19:39:18 <pugi> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:39:21 <pugi> i guess... 19:39:22 <pugi> kind of 19:39:26 <V453000> we are a group of people with severe mental illness, come join us!! =D 19:39:29 <pugi> do you know openttd? 19:43:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010DDE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010DDE.png 19:43:36 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:20 <DarkTomas> sry i was afk 19:48:40 <DarkTomas> pugi yes 19:49:01 <pugi> okay 19:49:01 <V453000> well, then we are the freakiest freaks that there are when you look at openttd players :p 19:49:27 <V453000> our playing is based on playing together in one company, making huge things 19:49:41 <DarkTomas> sounds interesting 19:49:57 <pugi> openttdcoop is basically we all are in one company and make one huge network 19:50:10 <V453000> and as you might have heard somewhere already, more heads know more, and thanks to the fact that we have a long history of playing and make progress based on archives and written articles, we constantly are making progress 19:50:18 <pugi> by chosing a network plan in the beginning 19:50:37 <V453000> unlike the "general public" which has just individuals who play for a while and then people change with time but "knowledge level" is constant 19:50:40 <pugi> in the plan it usually says where each industry is and how they should be connected 19:51:19 <V453000> in other words, if you want to play openttd with all the depth of thinking it offers and have fun with people, then this is the place for you :p 19:54:19 <DarkTomas> mkay 19:55:06 <V453000> @archives 19:55:08 <V453000> !archive 19:55:08 <PublicServer> V453000: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 19:55:27 <V453000> ^ good place for a quick look 19:55:37 <V453000> for longer look, there is both the wiki and blog :) 19:58:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029B67: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029B67.png 20:04:15 <DarkTomas> Okay thank you 20:04:27 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1 20:08:50 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (leaving) 20:12:20 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:12:25 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> looks as if jam at SLH02 is not easily solvable... 20:13:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028B6A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028B6A.png 20:13:57 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:15 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 20:17:21 <mfb-> hi 20:17:29 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 20:17:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 20:22:13 <TWerkhoven[l]> hi 20:24:14 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:27 <thomashauk> Oh 20:24:39 <thomashauk> !password 20:24:39 <PublicServer> thomashauk: seizes 20:24:58 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 20:28:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A387: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A387.png 20:31:06 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (connection lost) 20:31:26 <thomashauk> Resetting router brb 20:34:14 <thomashauk> !password 20:34:15 <PublicServer> thomashauk: bruise 20:34:27 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk joined the game 20:34:28 <thomashauk> Lets see if that fixed it 20:40:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH02 :/ 20:41:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3rd line up to BBH? 20:42:48 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> from SLH02? 20:42:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> or just move the SLH injection 20:43:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002805B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002805B.png 20:43:33 <TWerkhoven[l]> !password 20:43:33 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven[l]: hanger 20:43:52 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} joined the game 20:47:53 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 20:58:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028F7D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028F7D.png 20:59:03 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 20:59:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> gn 20:59:09 <TWerkhoven[l]> gnite 20:59:15 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 20:59:26 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:02:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> jam near SLH09 21:03:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> comes from BBH04 21:03:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, that stuff again 21:13:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002957A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002957A.png 21:14:33 *** Macha has joined #openttdcoop 21:14:59 <Macha> My new laptop's keyboard is missing two keys - the one with ¦ and the one with 21:15:01 <Macha> # 21:15:17 <Macha> This makes joining IRC very annoying for the second one (and using Linux in general very annoying for the first) 21:15:31 <Macha> !dl win64 21:15:31 <PublicServer> Macha: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-windows-win64.zip 21:15:56 <TWerkhoven[l]> you get used to linux 21:16:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is not the point... 21:16:16 <KenjiE20> Macha: use an IME 21:16:19 <KenjiE20> :) 21:16:57 <Macha> Twerkhoven: My problem is not with Linux (It's usually my primary OS, just not using it atm due to wifi driver problems), but with the inability to pipe commands around because of that missing key. :( 21:17:03 <Macha> Also, what's an IME? 21:17:13 <KenjiE20> Input Method Editor 21:20:54 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 21:26:36 <Macha> !password 21:26:36 <PublicServer> Macha: stalls 21:26:48 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 21:26:58 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:27:19 <PublicServer> *** Macha joined the game 21:28:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025193: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00025193.png 21:31:24 *** Mucht has quit IRC 21:33:50 <PublicServer> *** Macha has left the game (leaving) 21:43:12 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 21:43:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029578: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029578.png 21:44:36 *** Firartix has quit IRC 21:44:44 <DarkTomas> i have to go i come back 21:46:18 <thomashauk> Wow the webcam was documenting my failiure 21:46:29 <hylje> that's what it's for 21:50:27 <LoPo> !players 21:50:30 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1613 is mfb, a spectator 21:50:30 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1621 (Orange) is thomashauk, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:50:30 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1596 (Orange) is Xotic750, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:50:30 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1625 (Orange) is TWerkhoven[L], in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:51:17 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 21:52:49 *** DarkTomas has quit IRC 21:57:47 <Vinnie_nl> Vinnie time 21:57:50 <Vinnie_nl> !password 21:57:50 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: singly 21:57:53 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> ey Vinnie 21:57:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> OH NOES 21:58:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000211D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000211D9.png 21:58:54 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 21:59:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 21:59:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 22:01:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH04 - Goodsdrop is beeing trippled. 22:01:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can i help? 22:02:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> they want to kill my slh :D 22:02:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH01? 22:02:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 22:02:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> does it have to die for expansion or did they gave an other reason? 22:03:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> just rebuild for third line 22:03:11 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> could always rebuild it yourself 22:03:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 22:03:19 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> then it would still be yours 22:03:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> all the primaries in that area are already mine :P 22:03:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> pugi wanna rebuild it with me because BBH04 really jams when this part is LL_RR 22:04:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or can i do it solo 22:04:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> the merge/split of the sideline is also bad... 22:06:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn hill 22:06:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> i know :D 22:07:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> :O 22:08:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> think in solutions :) 22:10:34 *** DayDreamer2 has quit IRC 22:13:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003524B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003524B.png 22:14:13 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> i really shouldve built slh11 with 3rd line in mind 22:14:37 *** Macha has quit IRC 22:17:16 <PublicServer> <thomashauk> I have no idea how it's going to fit into 12 22:17:56 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> 12 has plenty of empty space 22:18:02 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> 11 not so much 22:18:24 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> and its not needed yet 22:18:37 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> but its getting a bit busy, so i figured i'd prepare it 22:19:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 01 like this pugi? 22:19:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> sure... 22:19:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> but only one sl exit line... 22:19:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, we'll have to wait for a few minutes 22:20:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that SL exit line has doubled bridge 22:20:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah... 22:20:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so it will unjam 22:20:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> i hope :D 22:20:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is really 22:20:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> full 22:20:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> SLH 02 is wrong 22:21:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> i have almost 100 trains for wood alone on my island :D 22:21:10 *** Tray has quit IRC 22:21:31 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[L] has left the game (connection lost) 22:21:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... they still jam 22:21:53 <TWerkhoven[l]> thats not gonna help me get it built 22:21:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah 22:22:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> can we move SLH02 !here so the BBH has some room to expand? 22:22:20 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 22:22:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo/ 22:22:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 04 and SLH02 are like one now 22:22:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hey 22:22:35 <TWerkhoven[l]> ey maz 22:22:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 22:22:49 <TWerkhoven[l]> !password 22:22:49 <PublicServer> TWerkhoven[l]: pollen 22:23:03 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} joined the game 22:24:42 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[L]} has joined company #1 22:24:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb are you still listening? 22:26:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> perfect i consider that a Carte blanche 22:26:31 <TWerkhoven[l]> lol 22:26:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bye SLH 02 22:27:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> it unjammed :D 22:28:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B449: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B449.png 22:32:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> boom time 22:32:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> boom goes the dynamite? 22:33:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> big boom even.... 22:33:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that was all crap 22:35:49 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven[L]> gnite all 22:35:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> gn 22:35:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 22:35:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye 22:36:07 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[L] has left the game (leaving) 22:36:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> night 22:36:20 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 22:37:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i really broke it :) 22:38:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes :D 22:38:22 <PublicServer> *** thomashauk has left the game (leaving) 22:38:22 *** thomashauk has left #openttdcoop 22:38:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke whao wants to make a merger 22:39:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not all at once 22:39:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, you started it 22:39:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2/3rd of the BBH needs an upgrade atm 22:41:33 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 22:41:51 *** Godde has joined #openttdcoop 22:42:00 <Godde> !dl win64 22:42:00 <PublicServer> Godde: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23044/openttd-trunk-r23044-windows-win64.zip 22:42:43 <Godde> !password 22:42:44 <PublicServer> Godde: enrage 22:43:02 <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game 22:43:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke BBH 04 now and its done 22:43:15 <PublicServer> <Godde> herro 22:43:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 22:43:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028850: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028850.png 22:43:57 <PublicServer> <Godde> i'm liking the grf set 22:44:14 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 22:44:21 <PublicServer> <Godde> i'd help out, but bf3 is fucking awesome :> 22:44:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> missing signals at SLH01 (fixed) 22:44:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i feel your pain 22:44:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty 22:44:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm, where? 22:44:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oops. 22:44:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf is that 22:45:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nowhere important. 22:45:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL1? really? 22:45:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No other option I can see. 22:45:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 22:45:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> then look some more :P 22:45:43 <PublicServer> <Godde> well 22:45:47 <PublicServer> <Godde> good luck guys, i'm off to bed :) 22:45:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That was not an option, before. 22:46:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> where was the missing signal, mfb? :D 22:46:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> why? 22:46:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> something important? 22:46:07 <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (leaving) 22:46:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> wait, the farm just died? :D 22:46:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> that solves the problem :) 22:49:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm, vinnie... in my opinion long tunnel directly from the mainline as slh is bad... 22:49:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bugger 22:49:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> as two trains going to SL would make the others always wait 22:50:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know now but BBH04 is main issue 22:50:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 04 is kind of out of order 22:50:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bigger prio then a SLH 22:56:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> could someone help me 22:57:38 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:58:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002644F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002644F.png 22:58:36 *** Godde has quit IRC 23:02:35 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 23:02:59 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 23:05:27 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 23:08:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:09:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice jam 23:10:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> :) 23:10:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 23:12:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> but now we have 19 trains that can't get to the station just driving around... 23:12:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed 23:12:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> ;) 23:12:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes because tray made a station inside my merger 23:12:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah... 23:13:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> we should just remove them 23:13:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024047: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00024047.png 23:17:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> wait... 23:17:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> we are missing one station 23:17:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no the signs are ontop of eachoter 23:17:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah okay 23:17:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> LV 23:17:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok 23:17:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> with x pressed you can see North has someting to hide behind it 23:18:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> same tile... 23:18:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> crap 23:18:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> yeah, that 23:19:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> ... 23:20:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> keep inside of BBH04 LL or make it also RRR 23:20:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or LLL 23:20:52 *** sla_ro|vista has quit IRC 23:21:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, merge to two lines should work 23:21:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> right after the tunnels for example 23:21:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes ok 23:21:53 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 23:23:04 *** LoPo has quit IRC 23:23:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only merge to goods left 23:24:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> merge one line from the west to all other 3? 23:28:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there flow is ok again 23:28:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 23:28:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> good job :) 23:28:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000086A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000086A.png 23:28:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> took 2.5 hour :( 23:28:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i must be faster then that 23:33:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice 23:33:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH03 is about to break 23:35:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 23:36:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh there 23:36:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that merger sometimes blocks 1 or 2 trains 23:36:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> all trains want to go to sawmill 23:39:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> better 23:40:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> missing one connection :P 23:40:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know i am looking 23:41:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 23:43:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there 23:43:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003465A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003465A.png 23:44:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> something has to fail. i want to make something 23:44:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 23:45:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ahh BBH 4 again :) 23:54:52 <Vinnie_nl> !screen 23:54:53 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie_nl made screenshot at 0000EE87: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EE87.png 23:55:53 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 23:58:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000C67: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000C67.png