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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 29th January 2012:
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00:00:12  <Yexo> andythenorth: but I'm far more curious how the file with all properties looks
00:00:20  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3591 (Closed): 1600P (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3591#change-9379
00:00:25  <andythenorth> Yexo: horrible
00:00:38  <andythenorth> it comes off my web cms here: http://213.133.67.181:8192/zz_dangerous_things/tt_foundry/sets/BANDIT/render_trucks_to_dicts
00:00:49  <andythenorth> I haven't figured out the nicest way to input yet
00:00:56  <andythenorth> I'm using web forms personally
00:01:04  <andythenorth> I could use tsv quite trivially I think
00:01:05  <Yexo> that is your actual input
00:01:21  <andythenorth> yup
00:01:23  <Yexo> that's code you'll be editing a lot to modify all kind of properties
00:01:33  <andythenorth> that's intermediate
00:01:37  <Yexo> I'd say it's almost only important how that part looks, not the scripts you showed before
00:01:38  <andythenorth> it's input to the build system
00:02:06  <Yexo> same as you shouldn't care how the code of nml or grfcodec looks, as long as it works
00:02:20  <andythenorth> 1 min
00:02:56  <Ammler> andythenorth: python-chameleon isn't part of standard repos, shall I add it?
00:02:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - BANDIT_build.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2372/BANDIT_build.png
00:03:01  <andythenorth> Ammler: please
00:03:07  <andythenorth> yexo I edit like so ^^
00:03:38  <andythenorth> the table is public here - the edit forms are authenticated though ;) http://213.133.67.181:8192/zz_dangerous_things/tt_foundry/sets/BANDIT/list_all_trucks
00:03:38  <Yexo> looks nice enough
00:03:56  <andythenorth> means I'm not forever reformatting the input
00:04:05  <andythenorth> I just add or remove or migrate fields in the cms
00:04:18  <andythenorth> a spreadsheet would be about as good, and less work to maintain though
00:04:22  <andythenorth> I just like the cms :P
00:04:58  <andythenorth> I might convert it to pyramid (a much more lightweight framework) and ship it with BANDIT :P
00:05:09  <andythenorth> run a webserver locally to configure you newgrf in browser
00:05:32  <andythenorth> insanity
00:06:03  <andythenorth> with the cms I get type validation and such
00:06:11  <andythenorth> and it's python so the types match
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00:08:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 141:1a7b429d7035: Codechange: correct two comments (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/1a7b429d7035
00:10:09  * andythenorth -> bed
00:10:12  <andythenorth> good night
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00:18:31  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9388
00:21:18  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 142:632dbde4381e: Codechange: simplify some code by only using one truck templa... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/632dbde4381e
00:22:28  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9389
00:26:06  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 143:96284cff2c6b: Codechange: a little more refactoring for simplicity (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/96284cff2c6b
00:27:13  <Ammler> I assume, python Chameleon does not hurt for all nml projects...
00:36:23  <Brot6> BANDIT - Bug #3621 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3621
00:41:52  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r143 still failed (#3621) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r143
00:44:54  <Brot6> BANDIT - Bug #3621: DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3621#change-9390
00:45:57  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9391
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04:35:08  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9392
04:43:37  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9394
04:49:01  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9395
07:57:39  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9396
07:58:55  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9396
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09:26:23  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3622 (New): numeric_ID should be refactored to numeric_id (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3622
09:28:54  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 144:a0f3cde1bbe9: Codechange: implement a render() method for trailers (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a0f3cde1bbe9
09:31:50  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r144 still failed (#3621) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r144
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10:36:00  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 137:5104e7ba5f18: Feature: coach SS C 1-339 (graphics by Voyager One)... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/5104e7ba5f18
10:36:00  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 138:8cf0910b921e: Feature: coach SS C 651-760 (graphics by Voyager On... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/8cf0910b921e
10:36:00  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 139:0bdd7c3d0760: Feature: coach HSM C 707-766 (graphics by Voyager O... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/0bdd7c3d0760
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11:32:10  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 145:d0a46ebb8c94: Codechange: now call trailer graphics (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/d0a46ebb8c94
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11:34:30  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r145 still failed (#3621) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r145
11:37:25  <andythenorth> ^ that could be fixed I think, but I don't understand python os.path well enough
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11:44:36  <andythenorth> how interesting
11:44:53  <andythenorth> a file was missing, but hg st didn't mention it, not .hgignore
11:45:40  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 146:ebb8bbf2c2ac: Fix: add missing file; might fix devzone compile(?) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/ebb8bbf2c2ac
11:48:06  <Brot6> bandit: update from r135 to r146 done (783 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/r146
12:01:09  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 140:49d6334da441: Feature: coach NCS B 111-126 (graphics by Voyager O... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/49d6334da441
12:01:09  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 141:f11e10bdfaa6: Feature: coach SS ABd 7516 (graphics by Voyager One... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/f11e10bdfaa6
12:01:09  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 142:682f21191c26: Feature: coach RTM BD 438 (graphics by Voyager One)... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/682f21191c26
12:01:11  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 143:515bd0066904: Feature: baggage wagon SS E 129 (graphics by Voyage... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/515bd0066904
12:01:15  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 144:3dee65ba1c7f: Feature: baggage wagon HSM D 1916 (graphics by Voya... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/3dee65ba1c7f
12:01:19  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 145:66aeb5a6e0ba: Feature: coach HIJSM 4, 8, 10 (graphics by Voyager ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/66aeb5a6e0ba
12:01:23  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3336 (Closed): Old pax coaches (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3336#change-9397
12:48:17  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 146:03150bb21ee4: Feature: future IC-DD coach (graphics by Voyager On... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/03150bb21ee4
12:48:17  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3447 (Closed): IC-DD futuristic (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3447#change-9398
13:12:26  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 147:7f06275af1c0: Feature: future electric HS-1 (graphics by Voyager ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/7f06275af1c0
13:12:26  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 148:e6a0ccbca967: Feature: future electric HS-2 (graphics by Voyager ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/e6a0ccbca967
13:12:26  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3545 (Closed): HS001 futuristic electric (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3545#change-9399
13:12:27  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3554 (Closed): HS002 futuristic electric (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3554#change-9400
13:19:30  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3623 (New): trailers don't need numeric ids providing by cms output, calculate ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3623
13:39:07  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 147:e2e99e16e84c: Change: build trailers when needed (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/e2e99e16e84c
13:41:58  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 859:b2fe09ff9ada: -Codechange: remove duplicate variable and add sprite numbe... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/b2fe09ff9ada
13:47:48  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 148:30681eaa3230: Change: build correct number of trailers in a sane way (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/30681eaa3230
13:51:30  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 860:5821f6c8d69f: -Codechange: unify (some) of the code for writing the size ... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/5821f6c8d69f
13:56:26  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9401
13:57:32  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 149:76682d6f8fbd: Feature: superheavy flatcar (graphics by Voyager On... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/76682d6f8fbd
13:57:33  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3435 (Closed): Superheavy Flatcar (futuristic) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3435#change-9402
14:11:10  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 861:2f5ac57fb411: -Codechange: rework reading/writing the sprite info to make... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/2f5ac57fb411
14:29:17  <Yexo> planetmaker: I'll review nml (and do the release if you're not here) tonight, right now I have to go
14:29:38  <planetmaker> Thanks, Yexo, that's fine.
14:29:59  <planetmaker> I most probably won't find much time today anyway
14:37:45  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 149:a22ff455683d: Change: restored refitting on subtypes (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a22ff455683d
14:40:53  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 150:e79c5d905a1f: Feature: future silowagon (graphics by Voyager One)... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/e79c5d905a1f
14:40:53  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3506 (Closed): Silo Wagon (futuristic) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3506#change-9403
14:45:32  <Ammler> andythenorth: something is still broken with the lang file
14:45:50  <Ammler> no idea, why makefile runs a ls
14:46:13  <andythenorth> me neither
14:46:19  <andythenorth> the makefile.in might be bad
14:46:21  <Ammler> where do you need the Chameleon module?
14:46:22  <andythenorth> I copied it from cets
14:46:36  <andythenorth> where in the path, or where in the project?
14:46:56  <andythenorth> for clarity - I copied makefile.in from cets, not chameleon ;)
14:47:16  <Ammler> yes, I just wonder, why I had to add Chameleon
14:47:21  <andythenorth> templating library
14:47:33  <Ammler> but is it already used on building?
14:47:36  <andythenorth> yes
14:47:43  <Ammler> so that works
14:47:47  <andythenorth> seems to :)
14:47:52  <andythenorth> I haven't tested the built grf
14:47:53  <Ammler> ok, nice :-)
14:47:58  <andythenorth> 'thanks for the add' :D
14:48:07  <andythenorth> it was trivial to install chameleon?
14:48:24  <Ammler> yes, it has a "better" setup.py as nml :-P
14:48:42  <andythenorth> worked first time for me too
14:48:47  <Ammler> hmm, well it ahs also less dependencies
14:48:55  <Ammler> (none)
14:49:32  <andythenorth> I guess I'll have to add installing that dep to BANDIT readme sometime
14:49:40  <Ammler> a suse guy made a script, which you can simply create rpms from pypi packages
14:50:04  <Ammler> and as soon I have a rpm, I can add it
14:50:44  <Ammler> I will commit the package to the official suse packages
14:51:29  <Ammler> also be aware that python package names are case sensitive, it is Chameleon, not chameleon
14:53:04  <Ammler> or rather, they aren't case sensitive, that is why you find both types :-)
14:53:23  <Ammler> but rpms are
15:03:57  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3624 (New): push-pull trains (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3624
15:05:03  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 150:b5e452a1d3ac: Cleanup: remove deprecated template (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/b5e452a1d3ac
15:05:52  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 151:cd07de8f44d1: Cleanup: remove deprecated template - no longer need to clear... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/cd07de8f44d1
15:06:57  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3189 (Closed): Wrong Speed TRAXX (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3189#change-9404
15:11:54  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3190: Disabling other tracktypes (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3190#change-9405
15:12:49  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3298 (Closed): cargo will be drawn in fire cycle and recoloured from ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3298#change-9406
15:57:21  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 862:7a3fa64f0deb: -Codechange: add method to read words/sprite sizes from the... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/7a3fa64f0deb
16:05:22  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 151:4ba00d6bda9f: Feature: car transporter (graphics by Voyager One) ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/4ba00d6bda9f
16:05:22  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 152:232737658a30: Feature: container carrier (graphics by Voyager One... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/232737658a30
16:05:22  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3502 (Closed): Car Transporter (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3502#change-9407
16:05:23  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3495 (Closed): Container Carriers (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3495#change-9408
16:08:05  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3495 (Feedback): Container Carriers (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3495#change-9409
16:09:11  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 153:3e038215cc2b: Fix: steam engines had cargo capacity (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/3e038215cc2b
16:13:16  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 863:ea00a8e3f041: -Codechange: add sprite numbers to decoding errors as well (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/ea00a8e3f041
16:22:04  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9410
16:42:55  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3495: Container Carriers (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3495#change-9411
16:45:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 152:93602ae60275: Change: restore trailers change capacity according to refit s... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/93602ae60275
16:45:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 153:db9f7d53211c: Cleanup: remove redundant templates (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/db9f7d53211c
16:45:53  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 154:c9769d7f7b87: Feature: parameter to have original Dutch vehicle n... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/c9769d7f7b87
16:45:53  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3619 (Closed): Parameter to set train names (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3619#change-9412
16:59:04  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3566: NS 1500 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3566#change-9413
17:03:37  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 154:dd8f97a9a3de: Change: use trailer capacities instead of constant 50t (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/dd8f97a9a3de
17:05:17  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3493 (Feedback): NedTrain Vossloh G400B (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3493#change-9414
17:10:54  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r857 to r863 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r863
17:20:52  <Brot6> bandit: update from r146 to r154 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/r154
17:22:38  <Brot6> dutchtrains: update from r119 to r154 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtrains/nightlies/r154
17:23:13  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 155:7dcf9d51f65a: Change: move vehicle IDs after 155, breaking compat... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/7dcf9d51f65a
17:23:13  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 156:c99baee93e57: Feature: parameter to not disable original rail/mon... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/c99baee93e57
17:23:13  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3190 (Closed): Disabling other tracktypes (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3190#change-9415
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17:57:09  <Brot6> ogfx-biggui: compile of r15 still failed (#3606) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-biggui/nightlies/ERROR/r15
17:58:04  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 155:1e48a20d0c77: Add: copy of the file the cms uses for rendering dicts for pa... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/1e48a20d0c77
17:58:52  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 156:06307dc92ad9: Change: updated input dicts with truck capacity correctly set... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/06307dc92ad9
18:04:56  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: bros (1 warnings), transrapidtrackset, 2cctrainset (78 warnings), cets (377 warnings), worldairlinersset, heqs, basecosts, water-features, isr (2 warnings), 32bpp-extra (2 warnings), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 12), snowlinemod, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), fish, ttrs (7 warnings), ogfx-trees, smts (Diffsize: 8), chips (1 warnings), comic-houses (3
18:04:56  <Brot6> warnings) (Diffsize: 22)
18:22:06  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 157:4841e7bf7d61: Codechange: move total capacity calculation from cms to local... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/4841e7bf7d61
18:24:28  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 158:80df8e84150e: Codechange: update a comment (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/80df8e84150e
18:43:28  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 159:387392257d15: Codechange: remove over-engineered building of trailers in bu... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/387392257d15
18:45:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 160:d46b26859654: Codechange: improve formatting, commenting; remove an outdate... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/d46b26859654
18:47:04  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 161:a3959f6e9415: Codechange: improve comments (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a3959f6e9415
18:52:27  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 162:33d3adfdef84: Codechange: rename the input file for config data to somethin... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/33d3adfdef84
18:53:41  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 163:0519b97fe055: Codechange: formatting (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/0519b97fe055
19:00:30  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3566 (Assigned): NS 1500 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3566#change-9416
19:02:59  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3495 (Closed): Container Carriers (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3495#change-9417
19:03:33  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 157:1810bd4b64d3: Feature: black livery for NS 1500 (closes #3566) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/1810bd4b64d3
19:03:33  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3566 (Closed): NS 1500 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3566#change-9418
19:13:09  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3493: NedTrain Vossloh G400B (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3493#change-9419
19:14:07  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 158:b0766ca110ff: Change: graphics of G400B (issue #3493) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/b0766ca110ff
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19:54:09  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 164:83a1ba7bb71d: Change: move more property setting from cms to local build sc... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/83a1ba7bb71d
20:00:09  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 165:0cb245eb1a89: Codechange: remove use of trailers_properties dicts from cms ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/0cb245eb1a89
20:02:34  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3623 (Closed): trailers don't need numeric ids providing by cms output, calcula... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3623#change-9420
20:25:27  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 166:4d65c1342ed6: Codechange: use numeric_id not numeric_ID (closes #3622) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/4d65c1342ed6
20:25:27  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3622 (Closed): numeric_ID should be refactored to numeric_id (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3622#change-9421
20:34:34  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3580 (Closed): CMS needs to insert truck and trailer lengths (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3580#change-9422
20:34:34  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3579 (Closed): CMS needs to insert trailer graphics files (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3579#change-9423
20:35:38  <Brot6> BANDIT - Bug #3621 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3621#change-9424
21:10:28  <Hirundo> andythenorth: Did you notice yet, that the 'shorten_vehicles' RV property is missing in NML despite being available to NFO?
21:11:23  <Hirundo> Yexo: planetmaker: I propose to change 'shorten_vehicle' to 'length' in NML 0.3, with a deprecation / grace period to convert
21:11:46  <Yexo> we can just support both for now
21:11:50  <planetmaker> yes ^^
21:11:52  <Yexo> user will be responsible for only using one
21:12:23  <Hirundo> They will end up using both, I fear
21:12:47  <Hirundo> not using both requires reading, which users don't while stuff works
21:13:17  <Hirundo> Then they change one but not the other, and stuff breaks
21:15:36  <Hirundo> Deprecating one of them at least provides a warning, even if we don't actually remove shorten_vehicles in a long time
21:18:28  <Yexo> ok, that's fine
21:19:50  * andythenorth has no opinion on this :)
21:19:54  <andythenorth> NML is only 0.3
21:20:03  <andythenorth> people who use it should expect to maintain their sets
21:20:33  <andythenorth> will it raise error / warning when compiling a deprecated property?
21:21:40  <Yexo> a warning
21:21:53  <Yexo> it'll raise an error when we actually remove the deprecated property, which won't be for quite some time
21:22:38  <andythenorth> those of us with over-complicated auto-magical build systems will just change one or two lines ;)
21:22:59  <andythenorth> everyone else can find and replace, which is much faster than writing a magical build system :P
21:39:20  <Hirundo> done
21:39:23  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1801:47e81369063c: Cleanup: Fix misplaced comment. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/47e81369063c
21:39:24  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1802:7384d7b3282d: Feature: 'length' property and callback for tr... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/7384d7b3282d
21:39:24  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1803:e8cb3d9b3721: Change: Deprecate property / callback 'shorten... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e8cb3d9b3721
21:39:39  <Hirundo> Also, I copied the constant 'VEHICLE_LENGTH' from OpenTTD, it seemed useful
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22:00:50  * andythenorth should update his code :P
22:01:00  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 577:34401fc57caf: glyphs for superscript 0-9 and I,V (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/34401fc57caf
22:01:00  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 578:cde2aa2193b9: macro-expansion {SUP:XXX} to easily input... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/cde2aa2193b9
22:01:00  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 579:e1d71216bcb6: use {SUP:XXX} macro in a few places (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e1d71216bcb6
22:05:01  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #3403: Vehicle names (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3403#change-9425
22:06:02  <andythenorth> what a lot of warnings with nml tip :D
22:06:08  <andythenorth> fixed
22:08:31  <Brot6> cets: update from r575 to r579 done (364 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r579
22:08:34  <Hirundo> with your code generator generator it should be easy indeed :-)
22:09:18  <andythenorth> the words 'code generator' scare me :o
22:09:42  <andythenorth> code generator ^2 is even scarier
22:10:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 167:be9c688b3f15: Change: use nml 'length' instead of 'shorten'; also set intro... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/be9c688b3f15
22:12:57  * andythenorth ponders
22:13:23  <andythenorth> can I be arsed to replace the remaining cpp constants with some kind of global constants in python
22:13:37  <andythenorth> they work
22:13:40  <andythenorth> they're easy to read
22:13:49  <andythenorth> the only downside is they look like nml builtins
22:13:56  <andythenorth> which is thoroughly confusing
22:16:13  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1804:af2517cf7371: Fix: don't crash when a line in custom_tags.tx... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/af2517cf7371
22:16:13  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1805:dc670eca027a: Release: 0.2.2 (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/dc670eca027a
22:16:13  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1806:47d336a50f0f: Added tag 0.2.2 for changeset dc670eca027a (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/47d336a50f0f
22:20:51  <Brot6> nml: update from 0.2.1 to 0.2.2 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/releases/0.2.2
22:29:24  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 168:02c3341614fa: Codechange: trailers should also use 'length' not 'shorten' (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/02c3341614fa
22:29:24  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 169:2c1a8ab56e1b: Cleanup: removed deprecated files for refits (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/2c1a8ab56e1b
22:38:39  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3625 (New): Replace legacy cpp constants - 'global' and others (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3625
22:39:57  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 170:ef38c89e7378: Codechange: rename BANDIT vehicles config file to be more spe... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/ef38c89e7378
22:42:03  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3625 (New): Replace legacy cpp constants - 'global' and others (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3625
22:42:12  <andythenorth> hmm
22:42:39  <andythenorth> BANDIT builds about 2s slower with chameleon templates, compared to just cpp
22:49:07  <andythenorth> 1.7s to template the entire set
22:49:09  <andythenorth> seems slow
22:49:23  * andythenorth wonders how much of that is file i/o fetching templates
22:56:42  * andythenorth will waste more time pondering than could possibly ever be saved by faster templating :P
22:57:02  <andythenorth> bed time
22:57:10  <andythenorth> bye
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23:33:17  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3625: Replace legacy cpp constants - 'global' and others (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3625#change-9427
23:33:48  <Brot6> BANDIT - Bug #3626 (New): No valid graphics when refitted to some cargos (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3626
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