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03:58:20 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: execution expired 05:40:50 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:11:54 *** Zuu has quit IRC 07:23:43 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 08:17:35 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 10:36:06 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:36:26 <Hazzard> Hello 10:37:53 <Hazzard> What is the devzone for? 10:39:30 <planetmaker> It's an offer developers of NewGRFs, AIs, GameScripts, patches to host them on 10:39:34 <planetmaker> *for 10:39:44 <planetmaker> including build service 10:39:53 <planetmaker> and issue tracker 10:39:55 <planetmaker> etc 10:40:01 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org 10:40:37 <planetmaker> Provided that the thing in question follows and open source license 10:52:40 <Hazzard> Thanks 11:01:45 <planetmaker> basically an open development platform for anything approx. related to OpenTTD 11:02:06 <planetmaker> free to everyone 11:09:24 <Hazzard> I cant seem to figure out how to start a newGRF project 11:10:04 <Hazzard> Hmm 11:10:53 <Hazzard> Nvm, I think I found some help page 11:11:23 <Hazzard> planetmaker: Is TortoiseHg required? 11:14:04 <planetmaker> no 11:14:26 <planetmaker> But you need *some* version control system. Preferentialy mercurial 11:14:38 <planetmaker> And for mercurial the most popular GUI client is TortoiseHG 11:14:44 <planetmaker> (not that I ever use it) 11:15:05 <planetmaker> But in principle we can also offer git, svn or bazaar 11:15:20 <planetmaker> But that needs manual setup. Thus we recommend hg :-) 11:17:00 <Hazzard> So the devzone is not just upload/download for hosting projects? 11:20:23 <planetmaker> indeed, it's not that. 15:01:47 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 15:16:54 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:53:11 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:00:44 *** Zuu has quit IRC 16:10:56 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 16:59:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:07:53 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:15:53 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 17:38:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:46:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3965: Hotels too cheap to build (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3965#change-10813 17:47:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2845:afa2fa221496: Fix: palette wrong for Quarry (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/afa2fa221496 17:47:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2846:df8fe685d563: Change: reduce contrast of Cement Plant ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/df8fe685d563 17:47:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2847:e730bde0ad01: Fix: Hotels were too cheap to build (clo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e730bde0ad01 17:47:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2848:31f010cc83fe: merge (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/31f010cc83fe 17:47:27 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3965 (Closed): Hotels too cheap to build (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3965#change-10814 17:51:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2849:c4a132893f1f: Update: Hungarian translation (Brumi) (c... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c4a132893f1f 17:51:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3956 (Closed): Hungarian translation update (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3956#change-10815 17:56:56 <Brot6> firs: update from r2844 to r2848 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2848 17:59:20 <Brot6> firs: update from r2848 to r2849 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2849 18:52:10 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 19:00:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3319: Enable closure for industries that have max availabil... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3319#change-10816 19:02:00 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2850:bfc9b23d2197: Change: increase production at Smithy Fo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bfc9b23d2197 19:03:08 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #3970 (New): Default livery of manly-morel becomes fruit (and several others t... (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3970 19:10:35 <Brot6> firs: update from r2849 to r2850 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2850 19:12:04 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 19:18:48 <Ammler> planetmaker: is #3969 serious? 19:18:48 <Brot6> Ammler: planetmaker: #3969 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3969 "Bug #3969: Corrupt OpenGFX+ Trains repository (r468) - DevZone Help Center - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:34:44 <frosch123> Ammler: it is not corrupt 19:35:03 <frosch123> but it is 350MB in size which you cannot download in time with a normal connection, before the server cancels the connection 19:35:31 <frosch123> it works if you pull 10 revisions at a time starting from around r300 (when 32bpp gets added) 19:36:18 <Ammler> I wonder, if hg doesn't have a method to pulll single changes 19:36:30 <frosch123> you can use the -r option 19:36:34 <frosch123> but you have to do it manually 19:36:56 <frosch123> the annyoing part is, that if it is canceled hg reverts all it got 19:40:15 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3969: Corrupt OpenGFX+ Trains repository (r468) (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3969#change-10817 19:54:20 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:07:10 <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, it's a real limitation which we should better find a solution to 20:07:25 <planetmaker> and it's a limitation of http as working via ssh gives no issues 20:08:00 <planetmaker> and pulling single changesets - that's not the idea if I do a "hg commit" or a "hg pull" 20:09:48 <planetmaker> Ammler: and the problem is: with more projects using possibly 32bpp, giving all people ssh might not be the way we want. Or we need to do it in a way that ssh only works on the per-project basis 20:10:05 <planetmaker> Ammler: but to my knowledge that then involves more work for us - or does redmine support that, too? 20:10:11 <planetmaker> (or chiliproject) 20:10:24 <frosch123> planetmaker: that would exclude annoymous pulls 20:10:35 <planetmaker> also true. Not good 20:10:43 <frosch123> would be kind of simuscapeish :p 20:10:48 <planetmaker> :-P 20:10:58 <frosch123> "you need a ssh-key to be allowed to get it" :p 20:11:05 <planetmaker> though shall not use swearwords ;-) 20:11:14 <planetmaker> *thou 20:50:56 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:59:13 *** Zuu_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:59:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:00:20 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 21:03:40 *** Nat_AFK is now known as Nat_aS 21:04:04 *** Zuu has quit IRC 21:15:09 *** Zuu_ has quit IRC 21:16:53 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:19:39 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3969: Corrupt OpenGFX+ Trains repository (r468) (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3969#change-10818 21:50:55 *** Nat_aS is now known as Nat_AFK 22:38:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: the advise on #mercurial isn't really helpful :-P 22:40:44 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3969 (Confirmed): Corrupt OpenGFX+ Trains repository (r468) (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3969 22:40:44 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #3969 (Confirmed): Corrupt OpenGFX+ Trains repository (r468) (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3969#change-10819 22:54:35 <planetmaker> yes, not exactly very helpful. But the ssh shows that it's not exactly a mercurial issue either 23:07:23 <Ammler> the hg issue is that it does not allow to pull single changes 23:07:38 <Ammler> (automatically) 23:08:57 <Ammler> or limit bundles 23:13:10 <planetmaker> well. You want to pull everything when you pull. 23:13:19 <planetmaker> Afterall you do request a full update 23:13:37 <planetmaker> but it might be that the request sizes or whatever are too big. Not sure 23:26:42 <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, but I would not care, how hg does the pull internally, it would not need to bundle the whole repo 23:27:03 <planetmaker> dunno what it does 23:27:17 <planetmaker> it surely doesn't bundle the whole repo 23:27:18 <Ammler> it does bundle the whole repo 23:27:25 <Ammler> of course it does 23:27:42 <planetmaker> uhm... not on a pull. It'll only send the difference, pretty sure 23:27:46 <Ammler> well, ask in #mercurial to get confirmation 23:27:58 <Ammler> yes, it bundles all changes 23:28:15 <planetmaker> did you ask? 23:28:27 <Ammler> no, I assume it, it is quite logical 23:28:30 <planetmaker> then you can surely quote me on "it always transmits the whole repo" 23:28:51 <planetmaker> it's absolutely not logical. As it's an abysmal amount of traffic also for 'nothing to pull' 23:29:09 <planetmaker> and that doesn't happen when I pull a repo 23:29:12 <Ammler> oh, it does not pull the whole repo everytime :-P 23:29:15 <planetmaker> Did you compare clone time and pull 23:29:17 <Ammler> just the new changes 23:29:22 <planetmaker> yes 23:29:31 <Ammler> but it does bundle those 23:29:41 <planetmaker> maybe 23:29:44 <Ammler> so you basically have "one file" 23:30:19 <Ammler> why does pull single changes work without issue but pull 100 chagnes doesn't? 23:30:37 <Ammler> the bundle is the issue