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07:12:52 <CIA-5> tron * r3838 /trunk/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: Demystify building bridge middle parts a bit by removing some magic numbers and generic names 07:13:04 <Darkvater> morning Tron 07:13:12 <Tron> morning, Darkvater 07:13:23 <peter1138> Darkvater: ftp://tron.homeunix.org/ottd/bridge.png << that :) 07:13:52 *** dfox [n=dfox@r2p136.chello.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:14:04 <Darkvater> THAT is nice :) 07:14:17 * Darkvater checks if it's already in or just a wip 07:14:57 <Darkvater> has Tron taken over your work peter1138 ? :) 07:15:20 <peter1138> Darkvater: no, he came up with an idea that matched what you told me last year 07:15:52 <Darkvater> what did I tell you? 07:18:34 <peter1138> something like, instead of putting track/road bits onto bridges, but bridge buts onto other tiles. or something 07:18:42 <peter1138> what you actually said was stop, cos it was toooooo big 07:19:04 <Darkvater> and? 07:19:09 <peter1138> and 07:19:12 <peter1138> i can't remember 07:19:15 <peter1138> it was years ago! 07:19:15 * Darkvater finds it interesting to hear what he has said in the past :P 07:19:44 <Tron> bridge middle parts just take up 4 bits 07:19:56 <Tron> and are stored in regular tiles 07:19:56 *** alastair [n=agh@220-244-72-6.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:20:15 <Darkvater> ah 07:20:15 <Tron> so you don't have a bridge middle part with for example rails below 07:20:29 <Tron> instead you get a normal rail tile with a bridge middle part above 07:20:30 <Darkvater> you have rails with a bridge middle part on top? 07:20:56 <Darkvater> yeah, that's better thinking :) 07:21:01 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Client Quit] 07:21:07 * Darkvater is proud to have thought of that according to peter1138 :p 07:21:08 <Tron> theoretically this works with all tile types, just most look silly/wrong 07:21:17 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:21:39 <peter1138> yeah, that 8 pixels just isn't enough mostly 07:22:00 <Tron> %svn di | grep -c ^- 07:22:00 <Tron> 574 07:22:00 <Tron> %svn di | grep -c ^+ 07:22:00 <Tron> 315 07:22:18 <Tron> 250 lines of obsolete special cases ^^ 07:22:22 <Darkvater> he, did you know that if I want to debug a minidump post-mortem with VS2005 I get a BSOD on windows? Very annoying 07:22:45 <Darkvater> Tron: I see you have been very busy last week. Are your local changes getting smaller? :) 07:23:14 <Vornicus> (8 pixels, for the record, is 1/4 the pixel height of a tile, or half the pixel height of a tile sloping exactly away from the player, or 1/8 the pixel width of a tile) 07:23:39 <Tron> my m5-struct-hack is now at 3900 lines, it was at 4800 before - that's only the accessors 07:23:54 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:23:58 <Vornicus> m5 struct hack? 07:24:14 <Tron> i turned m5 into a union of structs 07:24:26 <Vornicus> what's m5 got in it? 07:24:40 <Tron> depends on the tile type 07:24:53 <Vornicus> oh wait, there's a table on the wiki, isn't there. 07:25:02 <Darkvater> just m5? Or the whole thing 07:25:04 <Tron> for rails it holds the type (no signals, signals, depot) and the present rail bits 07:25:19 <Tron> m5. 07:25:43 * Vornicus tries to find this table, isn't sure what to look for. 07:25:52 <Tron> so this doesn't take accessors for the other attributes into account 07:26:10 <Tron> Vornicus: docs/landscape.html in the source 07:26:55 <Vornicus> ...I should probably get some new source, I'm working from 3360 or so... 07:27:14 <Vornicus> ...when was 3360? 07:28:08 <Tron> current is 3838 07:28:27 <Vornicus> ...yeah, only 500 revisions between then and now. No big deal. :P 07:30:13 <peter1138> not much changes 07:31:02 <Vornicus> no, only a lot of cleanup, a couple new toys, I think a release, and a whole bunch of other stuff. 07:32:21 <Tron> that direction stuff was a bitch 07:32:30 <Tron> and there's still some ugly stuff left 07:35:49 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 07:37:11 <Darkvater> anyone heard from KUDr ? 07:39:51 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|school 07:40:08 <Vornicus> He's been idle for 9 1/2 hours. 07:40:26 <Vornicus> so, um. the whole time since he signed on. 07:50:33 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:51:15 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 07:53:09 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.18.28] has joined #openttd 08:01:56 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.18.28] has quit ["So many reboots... [Time wasted online: 8mins 59secs]"] 08:06:36 *** BurtyB [n=chris@adsl.chrisburton.info] has quit ["brb"] 08:10:17 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:10:26 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 08:12:00 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 08:16:29 <Celaway> ok which tile types can contain a track. 08:16:33 <Celaway> railway. 08:16:35 <Celaway> road. 08:16:38 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.224.76.255] has joined #openttd 08:17:13 <Tobin> Celaway: Does water count? It can have bridges. 08:17:49 <Celaway> well, but not under the bridge. 08:17:59 <Tobin> True. 08:18:00 <Vornicus> track can be built on any tile with land. 08:18:46 <Vornicus> Though not all tiles can have any given track built on it. 08:19:30 <Vornicus> low-low-high-high tiles can have track built straight up the hill, straight across the hill, or diagonally toward the top of the hill, but not diagonally toward the bottom. 08:19:56 <guru3> /t 08:20:24 <Tron> Celaway: MP_RAILWAY, MP_STREET, MP_STATION, MP_TUNNELBRIDGE 08:20:26 <Vornicus> ridges and valleys can have any direction, as can low-low-low-high and low-high-high-high things. 08:21:08 <Vornicus> low-medium-high-medium is a little bit tricky. I'll try that right now. 08:21:47 <peter1138> ttdpatch allows double foundations on such things, i believe 08:22:24 <Vornicus> actually low-medium-high-medium can't hold any tracks of any sort. 08:22:38 <Vornicus> Which is odd, I thought they could. 08:23:26 <Celaway> ok 08:23:56 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:24:22 <Vornicus> I think that's all the different kinds of slopes. 08:25:45 <Vornicus> Note that two tracks that require two different kinds of foundations - or one needs a foundation and one needs the lack thereof - are never allowed on the same tile. 08:26:45 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:32:29 <CIA-5> celestar * r3839 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Codechange: Drawing of level crossings takes place in DrawCatenaryRailway as well 08:32:34 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 08:32:37 *** Celaway is now known as Celestar 08:32:45 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 08:35:08 *** alastair [n=agh@220-244-72-6.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:38:29 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588a8d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:38:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:57:56 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.224.76.255] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:58:12 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.224.76.255] has joined #openttd 08:59:57 *** syf [i=syf@n28z20l51.broadband.ctm.net] has joined #openttd 09:00:04 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 09:01:33 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:01:45 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:53 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:34 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 09:09:23 <Celestar> Tron: we need station_map* stuff 09:16:09 <Tron> mkay 09:17:11 *** mouse [n=mouse@213.232.194.242] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:17:37 *** mouse [n=mouse@IREX-GW-2.radio-msu.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:02 *** BurtyB [n=chris@adsl.chrisburton.info] has joined #openttd 09:31:38 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:32:15 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 09:40:33 *** init [n=init@dhcp-221-133.pdc.kth.se] has joined #openttd 09:52:37 * peter1138 wonders if splitting Cmds from tile handlers would be useful 09:52:47 * Qball doesn't wonder. 10:00:50 * Bjarni wonders why peter1138 got that idea 10:06:39 * Qball wonders why bjarni wonders that peter wonders.. 10:07:03 *** mode/#openttd [-o peter1138] by peter1138 10:07:16 * Bjarni is amazed that Qball learned to wonder that quickly 10:09:51 <Qball> you don't wonder how I did that? 10:11:32 <Bjarni> well, you cheated 10:12:01 <Bjarni> you claimed to wonder when you didn't 10:12:03 <Qball> I bet you wondered how I cheated 10:12:14 <Bjarni> I know how you cheated 10:12:19 <Qball> that is wonderfull. 10:12:23 <Bjarni> it's more like a question why 10:12:49 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:13:05 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 10:13:16 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/latest <--- yes, they accepted me 10:13:37 <CIA-5> celestar * r3840 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Fix: wires and pylons are now drawn correctly for all tilehs 10:13:41 <Celestar> tadaa 10:14:01 <Bjarni> errr, wait a minute 10:14:56 <Bjarni> where did the channel statistics go? 10:15:16 <Bjarni> I added it to the topic so I would not forget it and now it's gone :( 10:15:32 <Qball> http://www.qdb.us/?search=Bjarni&order=quote_id&sort=asc&limit=25&approved=1 10:16:11 <Celestar> Bjarni: rather test elrails please 10:17:04 <Bjarni> do you think you added endian issues in it? 10:17:39 <Bjarni> Qball: it's so typical. I get girls to talk about their sexuality and then they aren't in the same location as me, so I miss all of it 10:17:57 <Qball> http://www.qdb.us/42057 :D 10:18:56 *** Fujitsu_ [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:19:10 <Bjarni> shit 10:19:16 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:19:17 <Bjarni> the Aussies are invading 10:19:20 *** Fujitsu_ is now known as Fujitsu 10:20:28 <BurtyB> just make sure they dont have cricket bats 10:20:41 <Qball> or they start duding you 10:20:50 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?40235 <-- I like this one as well 10:21:14 <Bjarni> or they start to "mate" you 10:21:24 <BurtyB> arse against wall time 10:22:18 <Qball> http://www.qdb.us/45632 10:23:25 <Bjarni> Qball: that proofs how you should NOT test your future son in law 10:24:37 <MiHaMiX> Qball: old, but good :D 10:25:17 <Darkvater> http://www.qdb.us/56390 <-- don't you just LOVE bloomberg? :D 10:25:18 *** Plnt_ is now known as Plnt 10:25:20 <Darkvater> I should try that at work 10:25:26 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: hi! 10:25:28 <Qball> I hope his dad in law reads qdb 10:25:55 <Darkvater> 'ello MiHaMiX 10:25:58 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I see you deleted my addition to the topic :( 10:26:03 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: kerestelek :) 10:26:06 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: msg :) 10:26:51 <Darkvater> Bjarni: no bs please. Just put it in your favorites or something 10:26:55 <Qball> 32511, I now somebody who did that, thought his pc would run faster that way 10:27:34 <Bjarni> Darkvater: while you were away, somebody showed up with a windows related patch and left because you were not here 10:27:41 <Bjarni> and now I forgot his name :p 10:28:23 <Darkvater> I don't see my name related to that in the backlogs 10:28:50 <peter1138> why would it depend on Darkvater anyway? heh 10:28:57 <Bjarni> he will show up again or windows will lack this improvement 10:29:18 <Qball> golden: http://www.qdb.us/4753 10:29:21 <Bjarni> I think it was something about the mouse pointer going away when in the background in window mode or something 10:30:02 <Bjarni> Darkvater: also we still lack that timing thing 10:30:52 <Darkvater> Bjarni: oh that mouse pointer..it's on the forums as well...kinda bs if you ask me 10:32:15 <Bjarni> heh 10:32:19 <Bjarni> it's windows 10:32:22 <Bjarni> I don't care 10:32:29 <Bjarni> besides it's even in window mode 10:32:34 <Fujitsu> Yes, that was it, Bjarni... I've forgotten who... 10:33:08 <Bjarni> another aspect where the devs FORCE you to use what they want, instead of allowing you to choose. <--- bobingabout's reply to not being able to load planes with coal and iron ore 10:33:15 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:35:10 <peter1138> the aircraft refitmask hasn't been changed since r2306... 10:35:20 <Celestar> Darkvater: have you tested elrails a little? 10:36:20 <Bjarni> peter1138: it's not like it's sane to transport iron ore in concorde, but it appears that bobingabout didn't get that 10:36:29 <peter1138> well yeah 10:36:33 <Bjarni> maybe you need sanity to get that statement :p 10:37:18 <peter1138> maybe it was broken until i implemented cargo classes 10:37:25 <peter1138> as i changed some stuff around then 10:37:34 <peter1138> (but not the default refit masks) 10:37:47 <Bjarni> Celestar changed the refit mask ages ago 10:37:52 <Bjarni> and he is complaining about that NOW 10:37:59 <Celestar> huh? 10:38:09 <peter1138> no, dv did :) 10:38:30 <Bjarni> whatever 10:38:33 <peter1138> hmm, no 10:38:33 <Bjarni> it was ages ago 10:38:40 <peter1138> dv just rewrote it 10:38:41 <Bjarni> and he is complaining now 10:38:48 <peter1138> the masks where still there 10:38:53 <peter1138> and contained the same things, heh 10:41:42 <Darkvater> Celestar: I wish. Very very busy, half the time here, half the time packing away ski-stuff 10:42:53 <Bjarni> right now I don't think the refit mask is important or who changed it. It's more important that bobingabout makes statements in public on how he wants the game to be and calls us some sort of dictators because we didn't core it as he wanted 10:43:24 <Celestar> Darkvater: ok 10:43:28 <Celestar> Darkvater: it's close to completion 10:43:43 <Bjarni> ok, then I will try it tonight 10:44:07 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 10:44:22 <Bjarni> I think erails is enough to make a new release (when we know that it works, that is) 10:44:22 <peter1138> Bjarni: well, he can feel free to write a patch 10:44:32 <peter1138> all it takes is to just rip out a few lines of code 10:44:37 <Fujitsu> elrails will make things good :) 10:44:38 <Darkvater> peter1138: which we'll tactfully ignore ^^ 10:44:43 <peter1138> Darkvater: :) 10:44:48 <peter1138> Bjarni: elrails and partial 2cc! 10:44:53 <Celestar> Bjarni: it works :) 10:45:03 <peter1138> and maybe... http://195.112.37.102/ottd/snake.png 10:45:03 <Darkvater> eh shit 10:45:04 <Celestar> Bjarni: the drawing code needs fine-tuning 10:45:10 <Darkvater> peter1138: can you fix the signal bug? 10:45:11 <Bjarni> I meant when we tested it enough to say that it's not easy to find bugs in 10:45:16 <Darkvater> I'll get to work on the missing glyphs 10:45:27 <Darkvater> and 2 more things about CMD_parameter validation 10:45:37 <Darkvater> then backport trunk fixes to 0.4.5 and do a SP-release 10:45:49 <peter1138> you mean the 2 signals on one tile bug? 10:45:54 <peter1138> cos i found another one 10:45:57 <peter1138> that is in 0.4.5 10:46:11 <Darkvater> donnu which one. The one that Tron has brought to my attention :) 10:46:21 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/sigbug2.png < maybe? 10:46:33 <Darkvater> I think the other one. The 2-on-1 has been there for ages and is/was a feature 10:46:38 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/sigbug.diff << patch that works, but may be a better solution 10:46:46 <peter1138> s/may/there may/ 10:46:49 <Darkvater> that looks like a bug 10:46:50 <Celestar> Darkvater: how long are you going skiing? 10:46:53 <Bjarni> I fixed fullscreen on x86 OSX, but it's done by redrawing everything each time. I can't really fix it right unless somebody with x86 OSX tells me what goes wrong besides it crashes in the buffer copy line 10:47:11 <Darkvater> also I saw some forum posts about the tunnel screwing up signals on the station above? 10:47:14 <Darkvater> Celestar: I just got back 10:47:16 <peter1138> Celestar: i think he's just been? 10:47:20 <Celestar> Darkvater: how was it then? ;) 10:47:23 <peter1138> Darkvater: yeah, that's old too :( 10:47:29 <peter1138> pathfinder issue 10:47:38 <Darkvater> Celestar: ... awesome :D 10:47:41 <peter1138> i guess we need to check for tunnel entrances in the pathfinder 10:47:47 <Darkvater> only 3 days of sun, but just great snow 10:47:50 <Bjarni> Celestar: didn't you notice that Darkvater turned mute for the last couple of days? 10:47:55 <Celestar> Darkvater: where ya been? 10:48:01 <Darkvater> I just had to put down my stick and it went at least 60cm deep without any effort 10:48:02 <Celestar> Bjarni: no I didn't. I was busy coding elrails 10:48:03 <Bjarni> back yard? 10:48:08 <Bjarni> it had snow ;) 10:48:19 <Darkvater> we were to France, Val Cenis 10:48:29 <Bjarni> yikes 10:48:32 <Darkvater> oh and almost every day there were avalanches...just w00w 10:48:33 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/2cc5.png << saveload code works now 10:48:35 <Bjarni> they speak... French 10:48:43 * Darkvater slaps Bjarni 10:48:53 <Fujitsu> Goodnight. 10:49:00 <Darkvater> gn Fujitsu 10:49:24 <Fujitsu> Bye. 10:49:24 <Qball> http://www.qdb.us/48894 10:49:27 <Qball> ha ha ha 10:49:35 <Fujitsu> Good busyness, Darkvater :P 10:49:50 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm16.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:50:15 <peter1138> crap 10:50:19 <peter1138> it's 10:50 10:50:23 <peter1138> and i've eaten my lunch :( 10:50:26 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd ["Leaving."] 10:52:50 <CIA-5> celestar * r3841 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: 10:52:50 <CIA-5> -Cleanup: Removed tons of unused stuff 10:52:50 <CIA-5> -Fix: Small problem due to incomplete 0x00 > 0xFF replacement. 10:52:50 <CIA-5> -Cleanup: Use GetTrackBits where approprieate 10:53:18 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/IMG_0604.jpg 10:53:19 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/IMG_0605.jpg 10:53:42 <Celestar> COOL Darkvater is that the new GUI? :P 10:53:54 <Darkvater> the second one is the avalance 10:53:57 <Darkvater> avalanche 10:54:40 <peter1138> that's nice 10:54:47 <Celestar> wow. 10:54:47 <peter1138> did you add the lens flare later? ;) 10:54:56 <Celestar> the next commit will be the LARGEST commit even in openttd 10:55:08 <peter1138> nah, that was pbs 10:55:26 <CIA-5> celestar * r3842 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Fix: Sign problem with pylon offsets 10:55:43 <syf> lens flares are awesome 10:55:52 <Celestar> - const char y_ppp_offsets[DIR_END] = {-3, 0, -3, +4, +3, 0, -3, -4}; 10:55:54 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/IMG_0615.jpg <-- that's me skiing 10:55:55 <Celestar> + const char y_ppp_offsets[DIR_END] = {-3, 0, +3, +4, +3, 0, -3, -4}; 10:56:18 <syf> looks cold, where is it 10:56:18 <Darkvater> peter1138: no! they suck. It was just the sun shining from that side 10:56:36 <peter1138> syf: well it's snow... 10:56:45 <Darkvater> Val Cenis - France. It was about -8C 10:56:46 <Celestar> that's you monoskiing? :P 10:56:52 <syf> ah 10:56:53 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.224.76.255] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:56:57 <syf> nice place 10:57:03 <Darkvater> Celestar: with 2 ski's yes :) 10:57:17 <Celestar> I saw only one :P 10:57:20 <Darkvater> I've perfected the art of skiing with parallel ski's in my 20 yearsof skiing 10:58:18 <Darkvater> it was great, really. Too bad I'll have to wait a year to do it again...bleh 10:58:37 *** Skiddles [n=notme@cm16.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:01:11 <CIA-5> celestar * r3843 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Codechange: Drawing of stations takes place in DrawCatenaryRailway as well 11:01:33 <Celestar> 5 commits today \o/ 11:02:22 <Darkvater> :) 11:04:33 <peter1138> so what *doesn't take place in DrawCatenaryRailway? :p 11:04:43 <peter1138> bridges 'n tunnels i guess 11:05:28 <Celestar> peter1138: not yet. 11:05:34 <Celestar> I'm trying to unify this also. 11:06:08 <Celestar> Tunnels will not be included I guess. 11:06:19 <Skiddles> Do we have elrails for OTTD? :D 11:06:41 <Celestar> Skiddles: In a few days. 11:06:57 <Skiddles> Woo! 11:06:59 * Skiddles dances 11:07:06 <Celestar> Skiddles: there is a branch already, which has some minor problems I'm just addressing 11:07:38 <peter1138> slopes :) 11:07:44 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B825A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:07:46 *** Skiddles is now known as Skiddles^ 11:08:29 <Tron> Celestar: sorry, it was me who had the smallest commit already: i added a single # 11:08:59 <Celestar> Tron: well I changed a "-" to a "+" .. that's about the same amount :P 11:09:26 <Tron> but i was earlier (: 11:09:29 <peter1138> :) 11:09:57 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:10:05 <Darkvater> hmm I wonder 11:10:19 <Darkvater> do we want 'autosave interval' saved with a game at all or not? 11:10:31 <Darkvater> I know Tron is against it, but I'd like to hear different opinions 11:10:53 <peter1138> it's not really a game option... 11:11:19 <Darkvater> so no/yes? 11:11:44 <Darkvater> I guess you are inclined towards a no 11:11:50 <peter1138> no from me 11:11:51 <Tron> i hate, Hate, HATE IT!!!!!!11111onehundredandeleven *berserk* 11:11:56 <peter1138> lol 11:12:30 <Tron> *ehem* 11:12:38 <Tron> i'm against saving it 11:13:12 *** Hinrik [i=hinrik@ns.hax.is] has joined #openttd 11:13:27 <Darkvater> Tron: we got the message :P 11:14:25 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm16.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:16:49 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 11:19:29 <CIA-5> celestar * r3844 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: 11:19:29 <CIA-5> -Codechange: Staticized local const variables 11:19:29 <CIA-5> -Fix: an elrail depot would cause an assert 11:20:23 <MiHaMiX> okay, wiki, docs and nightly will be gone for an hour or so, upgrading apache to 2.0 11:21:11 *** MiHaMiX changed the topic of #openttd to: WIKI, DOCS and NIGHTLY is DOWN due to maintenance | Translator is under reconstruction | Website: *.openttd.org (Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs) 11:27:36 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176124126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:27:49 <peter1138> try 11:27:49 <peter1138> finally 11:27:49 <peter1138> free 11:27:50 <peter1138> end; 11:27:50 <peter1138> o_O 11:29:29 <Tron> ? 11:30:34 <peter1138> some delphi i'm working with 11:31:18 <Tron> 11:53 < Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/IMG_0604.jpg <--- you found the yeti? 11:31:43 <Darkvater> the feet are not so big :'( 11:32:07 <MiHaMiX> :DD 11:35:56 <syf> lol 11:36:27 *** Pixelz` [i=pix@pix.pp.se] has joined #openttd 11:37:33 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 11:39:02 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Skiddles^, eQualizer, Tron_, vrak, RoySmeding, blathijs, coppercore, Nubian, mouse, Scia, (+24 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 11:39:12 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 11:39:31 <CIA-5> celestar * r3845 /branch/elrail/ (elrail.c rail_cmd.c): 11:39:31 <CIA-5> -Add: Waypoints will get wires any pylons now 11:39:31 <CIA-5> -Codechange: Universal function to obtail track bits 11:40:10 *** Netsplit over, joins: A1win 11:40:14 <Tron> any? 11:40:41 *** Netsplit over, joins: Scia, init, mouse, Nubian, Tobin, RoySmeding, Skaz, Mek, blathijs, Kalpa (+1 more) 11:40:43 <Celestar> obtain. 11:40:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: vrak 11:40:54 <Celestar> not yet, it's still being expanded :) 11:41:10 *** irCuBiC [n=ircubic@80.213.18.68] has joined #openttd 11:41:13 <Tron> i mean the -Add: line 11:41:20 *** tank [i=tank@213.239.249.194] has joined #openttd 11:41:22 <Celestar> s/any/and 11:41:28 *** Netsplit over, joins: Triffid_Hunter, stefan 11:41:33 <Celestar> I really really should get lunch it seems :S 11:41:50 <hylje> :E 11:41:54 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm16.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:41:59 *** dev|ant [i=dev@ppp79-147.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:02 <Celestar> k guys. 11:42:09 <Celestar> someone else resume the coding now. 11:42:14 <Celestar> I need food & got work 11:42:17 *** Netsplit over, joins: Tron_ 11:42:28 *** Gameseeker [i=Gameseek@084202119117.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 11:42:33 *** Netsplit over, joins: coppercore 11:43:19 <Tron> Celestar: what about the bridge ramps and tunnels? 11:43:48 *** Netsplit over, joins: Darkvater 11:43:56 <Singaporekid> :o 11:44:12 <Celestar> Tron: that'S the next step 11:44:17 <Celestar> Tron: but first food. 11:44:35 <Celestar> stomach noise is > 85dB(A). so I either get food or earplugs 11:44:41 <Tron> earplugs 11:44:47 <Tron> cheaper and faster to obtain 11:44:54 *** Netsplit over, joins: tokai|ni 11:44:58 <Celestar> cheaper yes, faster no. 11:45:09 <Celestar> the workshop is further away than the cafeteria 11:45:12 <Tron> + if (IsRailWaypoint(ti->tile) && GetRailType(ti->tile) == RAILTYPE_ELECTRIC) DrawCatenary(ti); if (IsRailWaypoint(ti->tile) && HASBIT(_m[ti->tile].m3, 4)) { 11:45:29 <hylje> and food is better in the long term 11:45:36 <Tron> factor out the common part of the if 11:45:44 <Tron> s 11:45:59 <Celestar> whoa. One should scroll a little further down when editing files :P 11:46:39 <Celestar> static const CatenarySprite Wires[15][TRACK_END][4] = { <= this is too big :S 11:47:53 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:48:27 *** peter1138 [n=peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:18 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["kwiet"] 11:49:25 *** valhallazzzw [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #openttd 11:50:51 <peter1138> well that was nice 11:51:08 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:51:35 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:52:06 <Celestar> ? 11:52:15 <Celestar> I love bank applications 11:52:36 <Celestar> "Cannot logout: Your login session expired. To complete the operation, please log-in again" 11:52:41 <SpComb> whee 11:54:08 <hylje> :D 11:55:46 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:57:19 *** Plnt [n=someone@goodspeed.vscht.cz] has joined #openttd 11:57:30 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 11:58:17 *** Prof_Fri1k [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:00:21 <peter1138> "I found another bug when returning from subsidiaries patch (based on nightly r3755) to latest nightly r3833. The AI controlled ALL my road vehicles, but there was NO AI in the game. The computer stopped my trucks and when the facility was free again, it re-started the trucks. Very annoying. But it's still a GREAT patch." 12:00:26 <peter1138> lol 12:00:28 <peter1138> that'll be the multistop changes :P 12:00:36 *** MiHaMiX changed the topic of #openttd to: Translator is under reconstruction | Website: *.openttd.org (Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs) 12:00:40 <Singaporekid> :o 12:01:03 <MiHaMiX> services should be working. in case of any error please feel free to report to mihamix (at) openttd (dot) org 12:01:10 <MiHaMiX> bbl 12:02:22 <Celestar> peter1138: ? 12:02:32 <peter1138> Celestar: well, it stops and starts vehicles... 12:02:55 <Celestar> peter1138: :) 12:03:19 <Celestar> " Very annoying. But it's still a GREAT patch" <= conflicting inputs 12:03:38 <peter1138> no, he thinks it's to do with subsidiaries 12:03:43 <peter1138> which it's not :) 12:04:07 <Celestar> ^^ 12:05:08 *** KUDr [i=KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:05:17 *** e1ko_AfK [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:05:27 <Celestar> as I said: no more coding today. 12:05:29 <Celestar> time for work 12:05:41 <Darkvater> hmm fuck 12:05:50 <Darkvater> I can't identify my nick 12:05:52 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@pcsousek.fit.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:06:00 <Darkvater> 13:05 -!- nickserv: No such nick/channel 12:06:02 <peter1138> yeah, nickserv isn't around 12:06:10 <Darkvater> so I can't PM :( 12:06:14 <peter1138> lol 12:06:18 <peter1138> nice feature lilo :P 12:06:24 <Celestar> lol 12:06:27 <Darkvater> fking freenode...stupid spamasses 12:06:39 <Darkvater> Tron: so no PM for you :/ 12:07:56 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:09:59 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:09:59 *** Prof_Fri1k is now known as Prof_Frink 12:14:56 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 12:15:10 <peter1138> implementing public/private key encryption within existing delphi code is... a pain 12:18:02 <Celestar> peter1138: do something useful :P 12:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can't see why that would be a delphi-specific problem 12:19:15 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176124126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:19:18 <FauxFaux> peter1138: I'm installing win95 machines, count yourself lucky :p 12:19:23 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause2: well, delphi isn't my strong point ;p 12:19:31 <Celestar> delphi sucks 12:19:45 <Celestar> very big time 12:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... i never did more than simple console applications... 12:21:39 <Darkvater> Tron: ok, got the glyphs http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/glyphs.png 12:22:01 <Celestar> whatcha need that for? 12:22:15 <Darkvater> missing glyphs 12:22:51 <Darkvater> Tron: I guess the ^2, ^3, X and % need an offset in the y-axis 12:29:42 <Qball> it's going swell with Freenode 12:30:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> what does 'swell' mean anyway? 12:31:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> (it sounds so ironic) 12:32:05 <Qball> hmmm I wanted to type well 12:32:21 <Qball> but swell does have some odd possible translation 12:32:47 <Qball> 3. To raise to arrogance; to puff up; to inflate; as, to be 12:32:47 <Qball> swelled with pride or haughtiness. 12:32:48 <Qball> [1913 Webster] 12:33:23 <Qball> freenode seems to have lost itself 12:33:49 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81D8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:34:18 <FauxFaux> !dict swell 12:34:21 <FauxFaux> Aaaw. 12:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&relink=on§Hdr=on&spellToler=on&search=swell <- about 2 dozens of possible translations ;) 12:34:57 *** Pixelz` is now known as Pixelz 12:35:11 <Qball> Eddi|zuHause2: your trying to be the channel's bot? 12:35:19 <DjViper> lol 12:35:25 <Qball> !insult Darkvater 12:35:32 <Qball> hmmm you are broken 12:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> that was totally unrelated :p 12:36:00 <FauxFaux> Darkvater: Qball told me to tell you that you smell!111oneoneoneoneoenoenoeoeeo 12:36:00 <Qball> you are not just broken as a bot? 12:36:14 * Darkvater does not forget these things 12:36:17 <FauxFaux> Ooh, nasty lag there. 12:36:24 <Darkvater> just you wait till nickserv is back and I'll ban both of you 12:36:30 <FauxFaux> YAY 12:37:06 <Qball> Darkvater: the force isn't with you anymore? 12:38:38 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81D8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:38:45 <Qball> I told you the move to the dark side was bad 12:42:51 <SpComb> "and keep you informed" 12:46:31 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 12:48:22 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:48:37 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 12:49:44 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B825A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:50:31 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B825A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:50:32 <Qball> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=23957 12:50:36 <Qball> ha ha 12:51:59 <peter1138> we FORCE a lower resolution, just for him 12:54:25 <tank> hm... 12:54:37 <tank> i thought this could be resolved through editing the makefile or so 12:54:48 <tank> afair there was some entry for the maximum resolution 12:55:26 <CIA-5> tron * r3846 /trunk/ (5 files): Add functions to set the type of stuff (clear, water, rail, road) under bridges 12:55:52 <Qball> http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/archives/2006/03/hond_bijt_penis_af_op_bevel.html 12:56:46 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36279.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:57 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 12:57:25 *** dev|ant [i=dev@ppp79-147.lns1.mel3.internode.on.net] has quit [] 12:59:10 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> that link sounds... intresting... 13:00:22 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 13:06:15 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 13:06:20 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 13:11:45 <SpComb> lilo spam! 13:12:33 <Qball> we need p2pirc 13:15:01 <SpComb> we od? 13:15:19 <Qball> yes 13:15:23 <Qball> no more big irc servers 13:15:48 <Qball> no more lilo spam 13:15:55 <Qball> (then it will remain in the boot sector) 13:16:17 <Qball> gimme 1.10^6 euro and I will code it for you 13:16:51 * Eddi|zuHause2 imagines the kind of spam going around in an uncontrolled super-network 13:18:12 * Eddi|zuHause2 looks in an arbitrary e-mail folder to get inspiration 13:18:21 <Qball> : 13:18:25 <Qball> D 13:18:49 *** ]asd [n=Tank@rrcs-72-43-243-104.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:19:19 <SpComb> hmm, DoS attack on freenode? 13:20:16 <Qball> hmm 13:20:30 <SpComb> the high packet loss bit sounds a bit like that 13:24:40 <FauxFaux> Qball: Heh, with ipv6 a broadcast udp irc would be really really pro :p 13:25:17 <SpComb> no, just implement the IRC networking with RIP, so IRC networks don't have to be acyclic trees 13:25:18 <Qball> but you never know if your message is recieved 13:25:25 <SpComb> so a higher level of routing in the servers 13:25:39 <SpComb> then if a server goes down, only the users that are connected to it are affected 13:25:53 <SpComb> you could have fully redundant network 13:25:56 <FauxFaux> Qball: You don't now. :) 13:26:16 <Qball> I vote for smoke signals anyway 13:27:50 <Prof_Frink> Carrier pigeons are more efficient, but suffer from H5N1 packet loss 13:27:59 <SpComb> IP over avian 13:28:07 <SpComb> rhrh 13:29:10 <Qball> you know everybody on the world via just 10?? friends? 13:29:19 <Qball> or hops, how you casll it 13:29:29 <Qball> so just chat that way 13:29:40 <Qball> big latency, and BER rate, but it will work 13:30:03 * Prof_Frink thought it was 6 or 7 13:30:20 <Qball> even better 13:32:34 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:35:22 *** ]asd [n=Tank@rrcs-72-43-243-104.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [] 13:36:34 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:37:20 *** ]asd [n=Tank@rrcs-72-43-243-104.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:38:26 *** tank [i=tank@213.239.249.194] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:38:28 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 13:38:56 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:39:09 *** ]asd is now known as Tank 13:39:22 *** Tank [n=Tank@rrcs-72-43-243-104.nys.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 13:40:42 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.2.217] has joined #openttd 13:41:35 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:43:29 *** tank_ [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 13:45:38 *** Turulo [n=weed@233.Red-83-54-155.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 13:45:39 <Celestar> I REALLY should quit coding elrails today :S 13:45:48 <Qball> no 13:46:10 <hylje> no not really 13:46:28 <Qball> if you stop, you know I will get somebody to kill you 13:46:45 <Qball> bjarni: Do you have an opening for a quick hit-and-run job? 13:47:23 <hylje> run a train over him 13:47:38 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:48:56 <CIA-5> celestar * r3847 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Feature: Pylons no longer appear all on the same side of the track, but in a more eye-candyish way on alternating ones 13:49:11 <Celestar> there you go :P 13:49:17 <Qball> more! 13:49:28 <Celestar> Qball: what about first testing THIS one?! 13:49:47 <Qball> svn co svn://svn.openttd.org/erail/ openttd-erail/ what was it? 13:50:20 <Qball> got it 13:54:49 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit ["Windows, the best game ever: Try to see how many blue screens you can get per hour and then try to beat that record!"] 13:55:07 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 13:55:07 <peter1138> Celestar: \o/ 13:55:15 <Celestar> peter1138: 13:55:17 <Celestar> ? 13:55:42 <Qball> when is e-rail availible? 13:55:47 <Qball> I am in 1990 still don't see it 13:56:25 <Scia> Celestar: nice work! 13:56:52 <Celestar> thanks 13:57:08 <Celestar> Qball: as sooon as you have have elrail-vehicle 13:57:14 <Celestar> Qball: you needa build it.. 13:57:15 <Qball> hmmm 13:57:36 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6401.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:57:53 <Scia> I like the way you hanle the pylons: it doen't switch sides as for as I've tested it 13:58:38 <Scia> only in curves :P 13:58:58 <Celestar> Scia: they switch sides from track to track, into on one track 13:59:06 <Celestar> s/into/not 13:59:27 <Qball> wtf. why don't I get emu's 13:59:37 <Qball> aah there we go 13:59:54 <Celestar> ? 14:00:22 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:00:36 <Celestar> ok 14:00:38 *** stefan__ [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 14:00:49 <Scia> I'm sorry, it don't get what you mean :S 14:00:57 <Celestar> how can one 100MBPs upload onto a server eat 70% CPU :S 14:01:22 <Celestar> Scia: I just modified stuff a little 14:01:49 <Scia> hmm ok 14:02:05 *** stefan__ [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Client Quit] 14:02:28 <Aankhen``> Celestar: Bad to no hardware network controller? 14:02:35 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit ["Windows, the best game ever: Try to see how many blue screens you can get per hour and then try to beat that record!"] 14:03:02 <Celestar> Aankhen``: 0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82541GI/PI Gigabit Ethernet Controlle 14:03:05 <Qball> hmmmm only the left of the 2 tracks has electification 14:03:47 <Aankhen``> Celestar: Onboard controller? 14:03:51 <Celestar> Aankhen``: nah 14:03:52 <Celestar> PCI 14:03:54 <Aankhen``> Ah. 14:03:55 <Celestar> and that's where the problem is 14:04:05 <Qball> intel should be good enough 14:04:07 <Celestar> because the freaking RAID controller is in the very same bus 14:04:13 <Aankhen``> Mmm. 14:04:18 <Aankhen``> PCI Express, yah baby. 14:05:12 <Celestar> not xpress 14:05:16 <Aankhen``> Instead of 32 lane SLI motherboards, we should get 32 lane non-SLI motherboards with the extra lanes divided up among x4, x2 and x1 slots. 14:05:24 <Celestar> boring crappy PCI 14:05:30 <Celestar> 1.08 GBps for all devices 14:05:33 <Aankhen``> Celestar: Yea, I was just implying that PCI Express would rawk there. :-) 14:05:36 <Qball> Celestar: only the erails on the left is electrified 14:05:44 <Qball> with to tracks next to eachother 14:05:53 <Celestar> Qball: ? 14:06:01 <Scia> Qball: convert them to elrails! 14:06:21 <Qball> they are 14:06:30 <Scia> hmm... it works fine here... :S 14:07:49 <Qball> http://images.qballcow.nl/openttd-erail.png?orig=1&offset=10 14:08:48 *** n00blet [n=Crono@c83-248-89-176.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 14:10:16 <Scia> it all looks wrong... 14:10:29 <Scia> any special grfs using? 14:10:33 <Qball> no 14:10:33 <Celestar> what EXACTLY did you download there? 14:10:36 <Qball> it's a clean checkout 14:10:42 <Qball> of the elrails branch 14:10:48 <Celestar> which one? 14:10:52 <Qball> (ps. it's on ppc machine) 14:11:09 <Qball> /branch/elrails/ 14:11:16 <Qball> where the commits went 14:11:46 <Celestar> something is very fishy :) 14:11:57 <Qball> how should it look 14:12:07 <Celestar> DCC me the savegame please 14:12:53 <Qball> send 14:14:20 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/elrail.bmp 14:14:41 <Qball> are you endian proof 14:14:51 <Celestar> yes 14:15:19 <Scia> I did get a warning when i compiled 14:15:58 <Scia> elrail.c:74: warning: ?OwnedPPPonPCP? defined but not used 14:16:13 <Scia> I don't know if it has anything to do with it... 14:16:16 <Celestar> Scia: because I' 14:16:22 <Celestar> Scia: because I'm not using that array maybe? 14:16:42 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 14:16:45 <Scia> Celestar: I don't know anything about programming :P 14:16:49 <Celestar> Qball: what colordepth do you have? 14:16:59 <Qball> 24bit 14:17:07 <Celestar> Qball: because the color of the wire changes over the length 14:17:14 <Celestar> from white to grey and back to white 14:18:49 <Qball> I'll blame it on the moonshine 14:19:26 * Qball is listening to Melua, Katie - Blame It On The Moon 14:20:09 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:20:30 <Belugas> Good day to you all 14:21:43 <Celestar> hi 14:21:55 <Qball> Celestar: but it seems to work 14:22:01 <Celestar> great :) 14:22:34 <Qball> aah and it doesn't drive on a non-erail track 14:22:35 <Qball> good 14:23:01 <Celestar> yes :) 14:23:12 <Celestar> Belugas: fill me in on tfc_newmap :) 14:24:12 <Qball> why can't I connect a normal rail to a e-rail? 14:24:21 <Celestar> only on a tile edge. 14:24:29 <Celestar> becase otherwise you have to rewrite the map code. 14:24:32 <Qball> that sucks 14:25:32 <peter1138> we can make it upgrade the railtype were it would be mixed 14:26:09 <peter1138> won't need that many changes 14:26:18 <Belugas> Celestar : What do you want to know about it ? 14:26:51 *** n00blet is now known as Gerami 14:26:53 <Celestar> Belugas: 1) Purpose, 2) Status, 3) Roadmap 14:29:03 *** Gerami [n=Crono@c83-248-89-176.bredband.comhem.se] has left #openttd [] 14:42:52 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:08 *** Gameseeker [i=Gameseek@084202119117.customer.alfanett.no] has quit ["#norbits.cs *kos*"] 14:46:38 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B841D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:47:48 *** lc_ [n=lc@pchelix1.univ-lyon1.fr] has joined #openttd 14:51:26 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B841D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:53:59 <Celestar> man man 14:54:23 <Celestar> you move from W2K Server onto a W2K3 Server and suddenly EVERYTHING is different :thumbs down: 14:55:42 <Qball> 3 years different 14:56:43 <Celestar> where did the Server Manager go :S 14:57:23 <init> Celestar: I just tried the elrails branch, and it looks good. 14:57:42 <Celestar> init: thanks. 14:57:56 <Celestar> I hope to have it mergeable in < 96 hours. 14:58:43 <Qball> Celestar: who motivated you in this coding streak? 14:58:55 <Celestar> Qball: frustration at work? :P 14:59:07 <Qball> good 14:59:25 <init> Celestar: However, I found one small visual bug, where a piece of elrail track connected to a piece of ordinary track removes the end support for the catenary, which makes the ending piece of catenary just float without supports. You might be aware of this already. :) 14:59:39 <Celestar> init: :o no I'm not 14:59:50 <peter1138> ah, if (railtype != ELRAIL) bits = 0 ? 14:59:57 <peter1138> neighbour stuff 15:00:15 <peter1138> mmm, more stuff to slow it down :( 15:00:22 <Celestar> peter1138: it shouldn't be slow. 15:00:28 <Celestar> drawing doesn't take place too often 15:00:42 <init> Celestar: It does not happen every time you connect different types of rail though... 15:00:51 <Celestar> init: I know when it happens :) 15:00:56 <Celestar> thanks for reporting 15:00:58 <init> Celestar: Okay 15:02:50 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81D8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:03:04 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81D8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:03:07 <Celestar> well address later 15:04:47 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD89237.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:02 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7F014.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:22 <CIA-5> celestar * r3848 /branch/elrail/elrail.c: -Fix: Neighbouring tiles are taken into account if it contains electrified rail 15:08:25 <Celestar> init: there you go. 15:09:11 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.96.41.180] has joined #openttd 15:10:39 <glx> Celestar: is it possible that you prefix your commit message with [elrail] ? 15:11:30 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:11:37 <Celestar> glx: yes. can do. 15:11:38 <Celestar> sorry 15:11:40 <Scia> In r3848 I get an error: openttd: tile.h:62: GetTileType: Assertion `tile < MapSize()' failed. 15:12:07 <guru3> how are elrails going these days? 15:12:14 <Scia> when generating a map that is bigger than 128x128 :S 15:12:19 <Celestar> guru3: nearing completion. 15:12:23 <guru3> grand 15:12:25 <Celestar> Scia: trunk? 15:12:30 <Scia> yes 15:12:35 <Celestar> :q 15:13:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> Celestar: how hard would it be to implement it like this: on single tracks, you have pylons on alternating sides, on double tracks you have a pylon in the middle with wires on each side, and on multiple tracks you have pylons on the outside spanning the entire line? 15:13:16 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:13:29 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: that is planned for version 2.0 of elrails. 15:13:32 <Celestar> but it is slow 15:14:05 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:14:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> nice ;) hopefully not too slow 15:14:21 <Celestar> Tron: ping 15:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> keep up the great work ;) 15:15:25 <Tron> Celestar: yes? 15:15:48 <Celestar> "we" have a problem 15:16:09 <Qball> pregnant? 15:16:20 <Celestar> svn HEAD. creating a new map. openttd: tile.h:62: GetTileType: Assertion `tile < MapSize()' failed. 15:16:33 <Celestar> problem in tunnelbridge_cmd.c:546 15:16:43 <Tron> mom 15:17:28 <Tron> size? map type? 15:18:05 <glx> Scia when generating a map that is bigger than 128x128 :S 15:18:08 <Celestar> map_x = 7 15:18:10 <Tron> hmhm 15:18:12 <Celestar> map_y = 8 15:18:13 <Tron> checking 15:18:24 <Celestar> type temperate 15:20:19 <Celestar> somewhere between r3833 and head 15:20:47 <init> Celestar: You have obviously fixed "my" bug in r3848 :) 15:20:54 <Scia> r3838 still worked 15:21:04 <Celestar> yes that's been the idea init :) 15:21:37 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 15:21:38 <init> Celestar: Ahh, I should have looked a bit higher in the irc backlog... 15:21:48 <Celestar> ^^ 15:22:38 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:22:39 <Tron> ok, found it, stupid bug 15:24:25 <peter1138> FUCKING IDIOTS! 15:24:33 <SpComb> :O 15:24:40 <peter1138> "i asked you to delete this account, and now it's asking me for the password" 15:24:42 <peter1138> well duh 15:24:54 <SpComb> huh? 15:25:20 <Celestar> ?! 15:26:00 <peter1138> you'd think, if you had asked for an account to be deleted, you'd realise you have to... stop trying to log into it... 15:26:05 <init> Celestar: And by the way, I have a related suggestion to the one Eddi|zuHause2 had about pylons for double-track lines: In Sweden, where I live, all double-track lines have two pylons on the sides of the tracks instead of one in the middle, so I suggest that this should be configurable setting. 15:26:41 <Celestar> init: most countries have pylons on the outside 15:26:47 <Celestar> but all this is difficult 15:26:53 <Celestar> because it involves scanning lots of tiles 15:27:46 <init> Celestar: I thought so, but I wasn't sure...:) 15:29:01 <init> Celestar: And I'd say that this is no rush, getting elrails working will be great even without these additional suggestions. 15:29:40 <Celestar> wouldn'T change gameplay in the first place. 15:30:24 <Scia> hmm, the AI obviously does not yet know how to buy locomotives on electrified tracks :) 15:30:49 <Celestar> ^^ 15:31:00 <Born_Acorn> Wow. All those erails commits Celestar. You need rest! 15:31:01 <Celestar> I care little about that, as the AI can't get any worse :P 15:31:57 <Scia> hehe, yes, the best AI is no AI :P 15:32:23 <Matt-W> the AI makes me wish I'd paid more attention in my AI lectures... 15:32:56 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit ["Windows, the best game ever: Try to see how many blue screens you can get per hour and then try to beat that record!"] 15:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> init: you mean a configurable setting the same way as driving on left/right? 15:33:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> i could live with that ;) 15:34:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> Celestar: maybe, in order to speed things up, some things about neighbouring tiles should be stored instead of calculated each time 15:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> (i don't know how that is handled currently) 15:34:52 <init> Eddi|zuHause2: That's correct 15:34:58 *** kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 15:35:00 <Scia> or the side of the pylons could depend on the signal side 15:35:07 <peter1138> hmmm 15:35:17 <peter1138> i had the ai making elrails 15:35:22 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 15:35:35 <peter1138> though i don't remember it building vehicles... hmm... 15:35:40 <init> Scia: No, I think that it should be separate. But that's just me. :) 15:36:53 <Scia> yes, preferably it should be seperate ofcourse :) 15:37:23 <Scia> but I thought it might be simpler the implement 15:38:02 <TL|Away> Windows build is _broken_ 15:38:08 <TL|Away> win32.c: In function `ShowOSErrorBox': 15:38:08 <TL|Away> win32.c:81: error: `_exception_string' undeclared (first use in this function) 15:38:08 <TL|Away> win32.c:81: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once 15:38:08 <TL|Away> win32.c:81: error: for each function it appears in.) 15:38:08 <TL|Away> win32.c: In function `WinMain': 15:38:08 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: currently, we'Re very low on storage spcae 15:38:09 <TL|Away> win32.c:1159: warning: implicit declaration of function `Win32InitializeExceptions' 15:38:57 <CIA-5> tron * r3849 /trunk/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: Fix bug in r3846 15:40:07 <TL|Away> and broken for a long time as far as I can see 15:40:10 <TL|Away> (no-SDL build btw) 15:41:14 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:45:00 <Tron> Celestar: you don't have to store it on the map 15:45:19 <Tron> it doesn't need to be saved or anything 15:45:57 <peter1138> heh, i've never built without SDL :) 15:46:06 <init> Celestar: I noticed another thing about elrails: Couldn't it be possible to upgrade ordinary rail to electrified rail even with trains on the track, since this upgrade does not impact the steam/diesel trains in any way? 15:46:50 <Celestar> init: well, sooner-or-later. 15:46:57 <peter1138> one step at a time :) 15:47:15 <init> In understand, just a suggestion. You make the piorities. :) 15:47:18 *** wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:48:14 *** Xeryus|school is now known as XeryusTC 15:50:27 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:52:10 <syf> what gameplay things does elrail add anyway? 15:52:24 <syf> as opposed to regular rail 15:53:01 <Qball> more costs to run emu's 15:53:04 <Qball> more realism 15:53:12 <Qball> Celestar powered fun 15:53:14 <syf> ah, higher costs? oki 15:53:22 <peter1138> the costs don't change (yet) 15:53:28 <peter1138> excepting having to upgrade 15:53:32 <Qball> you can to convert the track 15:53:54 <Qball> I don't know if e-trains are more expensive then diesels 15:53:57 <Qball> I kinda doubt it 15:54:07 <peter1138> depends 15:54:08 <Qball> and cities should be happier with emu's then dmu's 15:54:15 <init> syf: You can convert those parts of the track where you want to run fast electric loco's without having to worry about your non-electric trains... 15:54:18 <peter1138> they have a different running cost base 15:54:41 <Celestar> I find this idea recently that certain cargo types cannot be loaded on elrails not bad actually 15:55:09 <syf> mm 15:55:10 <Qball> Celestar: why? 15:55:12 <init> Celestar: Such as? 15:55:16 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 15:55:33 <Prof_Frink> syf: Most .grf train sets require elrails 15:55:38 <Celestar> well. 15:55:46 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B80843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:53 <peter1138> oh yea 15:55:56 <Celestar> as someone pointed out. ever tried to load logs of wood with the catenary inyour way? 15:55:57 <peter1138> i didn't add the newgrf flag 15:56:26 <Qball> what would be cool is (not erail releated) if you can make signs that depend on cargo type, so you can have goods+pax go an a fast (f.e. elrails) and rest on slow. 15:56:32 <Qball> normal. 15:56:46 <syf> Qball, that'd be pretty awesome 15:56:58 <peter1138> waypoints would be better for that 15:57:07 <peter1138> as they actually exist on the map, heh 15:57:23 <peter1138> and, oh look, you can already do that! 15:57:26 <Qball> I hate having to mess with waypoints 15:57:30 <peter1138> (but manually routed, of course) 15:58:54 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: newstations! 16:00:02 <peter1138> lies 16:02:50 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36279.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:03:41 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:06:25 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B841D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:06:46 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B841D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:07:21 <CIA-5> peter1138 * r3850 /branch/elrail/newgrf.c: [elrail] Add electrified rail TTDPatch compatibility flag for NewGRF 16:07:30 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B80843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:08:00 <peter1138> you imagined that 16:08:07 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:08:29 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm16.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has left #openttd ["Raah"] 16:12:58 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6401.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 16:13:48 <peter1138> now you can try out the us set 16:13:52 <peter1138> or the canadian set 16:16:30 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 16:17:02 <TL|Away> [New News] Electric Rails -- Help us test (binaries available) -- http://www.openttd.org/ 16:17:42 <hylje> could you make the elrail stuff work with the vanilla 16:18:00 <hylje> mm 16:18:03 <hylje> nevermind 16:18:39 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36279.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:53 <hylje> TL|Away: in the news post, s/sent/send 16:19:18 <peter1138> Therefor -> Therefore :P 16:22:51 <Tron> TL|Away: please add a warning that savegames generated with this could be unrecoverably broken 16:23:18 <hylje> mm 16:23:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77D2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:39 *** tank_ is now known as tank 16:31:12 *** lc_ [n=lc@pchelix1.univ-lyon1.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 16:42:04 <hylje> why elrail and ordinary rail cost the same 16:42:14 <hylje> shouldnt elrail be slightly more expensive 16:43:42 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B7714F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:45:34 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.96.41.180] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:45:59 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:40 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.240.23.241] has joined #openttd 16:54:18 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:54:35 *** stefan_ [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 16:56:07 *** stefan_ is now known as stefan 17:00:25 *** Skaz is now known as Zajin 17:02:31 <Tron> Darkvater: set the map size to something different, start a game, go back to the main menu -> the map size change got lost 17:03:22 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:15:46 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 17:18:44 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588a8d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:18:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:19:09 <Bjarni> what did I miss? 17:19:21 <Prof_Frink> The point. 17:19:27 <BurtyB> loads of girls came in n partied 17:19:40 <Bjarni> it's typical. It appears that it dropped the connection like 5 minutes after I left 17:20:01 <Bjarni> but before I left, everything worked just fine 17:20:16 <Hinrik> the girls were all asking for you, but you were nowhere to be found :P 17:20:17 <Bjarni> no way I should be able to get a log of what happened 17:21:08 <Bjarni> Hinrik: http://www.qdb.us/50186 <-- so you mean that it's kind of like this? 17:21:20 <Bjarni> I get girls to talk about sex, but I don't see it 17:21:47 <Hinrik> hehe 17:22:36 <Bjarni> it's a conspiracy 17:22:47 <Bjarni> the net is full of sex, just not when I'm around 17:23:38 <peter1138> hylje: notice that monorail and maglev cost the same too 17:23:50 <hylje> :o 17:24:11 <peter1138> Tron: custom currencies are broken too 17:27:14 <Bjarni> \o/ 17:27:18 <Bjarni> I checked out elrails 17:27:25 <Bjarni> 7th time is the charm 17:27:26 <Bjarni> :p 17:27:53 * Bjarni don't know why svn didn't like checking out a branch 17:29:56 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:30:36 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 17:39:25 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@88.240.23.241] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:40:28 <Bjarni> wtf happened to currency display in the cheat menu? 17:40:30 <FauxFaux> Bjarni: Currency in *options? 17:41:05 <Bjarni> I don't know how long it have been there since I don't usually cheat. I just needed to get electric engines fast 17:41:08 <peter1138> Bjarni: yeah, that too 17:42:00 <Bjarni> are there anybody working on it right now? 17:42:15 <Bjarni> btw it's in the elrail branch 17:42:49 <peter1138> no 17:42:52 <peter1138> it's in trunk 17:42:52 <peter1138> too 17:44:13 <peter1138> remove the gui and replace it with console commands ;) 17:44:28 <Eddi|zuHause> lol :) 17:44:41 <Bjarni> elrail.c:74: warning: 'OwnedPPPonPCP' defined but not used 17:47:31 <peter1138> yes yes 17:51:16 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:51:20 <init> Bjarni: I tried clicking on the add money cheat, and it adds the right amount, it just seems to be the display that is wrong...*also trying out elrails* 17:52:15 <hylje> elrails look quite messy when you have a lot of them :x 17:52:24 <hylje> also 17:52:56 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 17:54:36 <init> hylje: Want to see some other fun thing with elrails? Try building a four-tile steel girder bridge on land (two actual bridge tiles and two ramps). The catenary will go up the ramp, over the bridge and down the ramp without any supports...:) 17:54:54 <hylje> :-)) 17:55:03 <peter1138> w.i.p. 17:55:18 <init> peter1138: Oki 17:56:13 <Bjarni> damn, it's slow to upload to the forum 17:56:25 <Bjarni> also, there is no progress bar :s 17:56:27 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:57:30 <Scia> yeah the ai has built an electic locomotive with the US set 17:57:38 <Scia> only without carriages :P 17:57:40 <Scia> :D 17:57:41 <peter1138> lol 17:57:42 <hylje> :> 17:57:53 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.2.217] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:58:04 <Bjarni> ok, so catenary support is not the only thing to fix 17:58:09 <hylje> could >3 parallel eltracks have overhead-supported catenaries 17:58:21 <Bjarni> o_O 17:58:32 <Bjarni> I'm only uploading with 2-3 k/s to the forum 17:59:01 <hylje> instead of several pylons 17:59:07 <Bjarni> ahh, finally done :D 17:59:23 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 17:59:28 <Prof_Frink> hylje: It would probably look weird 17:59:36 <hylje> perhaps 17:59:36 <Prof_Frink> The tracks are too far apart 17:59:37 <init> hylje: We discussed that with Celestar earlier. Possibly in Elrails 2.0. 17:59:45 <hylje> k 18:00:02 <hylje> and we're in around .5 now? :D 18:00:27 <Prof_Frink> .000497817236 18:00:38 <hylje> really 18:00:48 <Prof_Frink> .000497817237 now 18:01:09 <Scia> lol, I know what the I did, he thought he bought carriages, but it were 5 locomotives which are still in the depot :) 18:01:19 <Scia> *I=AI 18:01:38 <peter1138> lol 18:01:49 *** init [n=init@dhcp-221-133.pdc.kth.se] has quit ["Leaving..."] 18:03:21 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-20288.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 18:03:42 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:18 *** KUDr [i=KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 18:09:27 *** vasi [n=vasi@modemcable032.248-37-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 18:10:17 <vasi> hey, i'm playing a Tropical map, and i'm noticing one of my stations no longer accepts food 18:10:27 <vasi> it looks like only houses take food, big buildings don't 18:11:09 <vasi> so um, apparently TTDPatch has an option to enable office towers accepting food...is that an option in openttd? 18:11:15 <vasi> and if not, any objection if i add it? 18:17:45 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.84.38] has joined #openttd 18:18:35 *** e1ko_AfK is now known as e1ko 18:18:42 *** fusey [n=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:14 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 18:20:43 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:44:19 <Born_Acorn> It makes sense for offices to accept food 18:44:42 <Born_Acorn> Most places of work have canteens/vending machines. 18:47:30 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:49:39 <peter1138> hmm 18:53:47 *** DmitryKo [n=chatzill@ppp85-140-134-125.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:56:43 *** DmitryKo [n=chatzill@ppp85-140-134-125.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Client Quit] 19:02:18 * peter1138 wonders when his keypresses will register 19:02:30 <peter1138> have been trying to login to a machine for about... 25 minutes 19:02:46 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:02:48 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 19:03:57 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:04:51 <TL|Away> Tron: updated, tnx 19:05:38 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@139.222.236.198] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:06:15 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 19:06:17 <peter1138> wb 19:07:12 *** glx is now known as glx|away 19:07:49 *** tank_ [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 19:16:46 <peter1138> still waiting 19:19:04 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:33:05 <SpComb> it makes more sense for offices to acecpt food than *residential housing* 19:33:13 <SpComb> I mean, how many people have food delivered to them from a factory? 19:33:22 <SpComb> it goes to a store, and they buy it from there... 19:33:53 <peter1138> still waiting 19:34:22 <Belugas> You're compiling ? ;) 19:34:25 <peter1138> no 19:34:26 <SpComb> commit random acts of violence against the computer? 19:34:46 <peter1138> SpComb: these days the supermarkets do deliver... 19:35:04 <peter1138> Belugas: trying to get into an unresponsive server 19:35:17 <BurtyB> want me to DoS it peter1138 see if that helps? 19:35:20 <SpComb> supermarkets, perhaps 19:35:30 <peter1138> heh 19:35:31 <SpComb> but not food factories! 19:35:32 <Scia> hmm... what needs to be the setting of restart_game_date so it never restarts? 19:35:42 <peter1138> SpComb: it's the next step! 19:35:46 <SpComb> restart_game_date=Please_don't_restart 19:35:57 <peter1138> direct from the supermarket warehouses 19:35:58 <peter1138> Scia: 0 19:36:18 <Scia> peter1138: doesn't work anymore... 19:36:23 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 19:36:43 *** TL|Away [n=kvirc@83.68.4.9] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:36:48 <peter1138> oh yeah 19:36:55 <Scia> openttd automagically changes that to 1920... 19:37:01 <peter1138> it needs a flag adding 19:37:10 <peter1138> ZEROISDISABLED or something 19:37:16 <peter1138> but i'm going home 19:37:28 <Scia> ok 19:37:29 <Scia> bye 19:37:49 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@139.222.236.198] has joined #openttd 19:40:13 <MiHaMiX> aaaarrgh 19:40:21 * MiHaMiX fixed a fucking annoying bug 19:40:50 <MiHaMiX> the bug was caused by PEAR's Auth_HTTP package :) 19:41:14 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: are you still on diesel power? 19:41:17 <BurtyB> PEAR sucks donkey cock and so do the PEAR devs attitude sadly :( 19:41:24 <Bjarni> or did the power company actually do something good? 19:42:00 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: they've fixed it 19:42:09 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: so we're running on normal AC 19:42:29 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: but it's heavily snowing here from yesterday evening 19:42:42 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: and the traffic is a real mess now 19:42:49 <Bjarni> and now the maintenance guys got a job to do before next power failure ;) 19:43:12 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: i don't know that :) 19:43:55 <Bjarni> btw when the power dies, will all the servers die or do they have batteries so they survive until the generator is running? 19:44:08 <MiHaMiX> BurtyB: yes, certain PEAR packages looks like a real mess 19:44:31 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: there is a 40kVA USP dedicated to our server room 19:44:32 <Bjarni> btw it sucks if the generator should start manually :p 19:44:45 <MiHaMiX> which should last for an hour or so 19:45:23 <Bjarni> nice 19:51:29 *** tank_ is now known as tank 20:02:53 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has joined #openttd 20:09:07 *** znikoz2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has joined #openttd 20:12:40 <CIA-5> tron * r3851 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c train_cmd.c): Rail depots only have an entrance at one side, therefore use UpdateSignalsOnSegment() instead of SetSignalsOnBothDir() 20:16:54 <peter1138> PEAR -> PHP -> SUCK 20:17:24 * BurtyB has no problems with PHP 20:17:36 <tokai> who uses PEAR anyway:) 20:17:46 <tokai> everone should write his own wrapper:) 20:18:01 <BurtyB> people who think its as good as CPAN is for perl then realise its not 20:19:06 <peter1138> 20:13:47 up 232 days, 16:08, 3 users, load average: 155.09, 164.28, 207.48 20:19:09 <peter1138> woo 20:19:20 <BurtyB> lol @ load avg 20:19:20 <peter1138> that's um, not good. 20:20:03 <peter1138> it's only shown the top line so far 20:20:04 <peter1138> that's from top 20:21:36 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36279.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:22:44 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: php is not suck. certain php codes suck, but mostly because some underskilled persons wrote them. 20:22:59 <MiHaMiX> 21:22:55 up 234 days, 2:59, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 20:23:34 <peter1138> php sucks 20:23:56 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: you don't know PHP in this case good enough 20:23:57 <MiHaMiX> :) 20:28:23 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:30:36 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 20:31:34 <hylje> omg uptime 20:31:38 <hylje> 22:30:06 up 306 days, 8:41, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 20:31:39 <hylje> :< 20:33:53 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:34:17 <Bjarni> "you are a lying liar" <-- are there any other kinds? 20:34:30 <Belugas> Fucking liar ? 20:34:51 <Bjarni> I meant liars, that don't lie 20:35:13 <Bjarni> lying is useless since liar tells it all 20:36:23 <syf> php5 fixed a lot of the suckage in 4 20:37:20 <MiHaMiX> syf: and created new ones :D 20:37:32 <MiHaMiX> syf: but, basically, php5 is way better than php4 :) 20:37:53 * BurtyB will be sticking to php4 for devel for quite a while yet i imagine 20:38:23 * MiHaMiX writes WT2 in PHP5 20:38:26 <syf> true 20:38:32 <syf> wt2? 20:38:38 <MiHaMiX> WebTranslator2 20:38:49 <syf> ah 20:39:08 <syf> the default copy object behaviour in 4 was annoying as hell 20:39:09 <Belugas> Mmmh... PHP5 must be hard to write... 20:39:12 <Bjarni> how is wt2 going? 20:39:30 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: http://translator2.openttd.org/images/screenshots/screenshot_edit_2.png -> http://translator2.openttd.org/images/screenshots/screenshot_edit_5.png 20:39:35 <BurtyB> Belugas theres little difference to php4 for the most part 20:40:52 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-20288.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:40:54 <Belugas> BurtyB : it was a joke. MiHaMiX is working on his translator for quite a long time, now :) 20:41:07 <Belugas> Thus the "must be hard" 20:43:12 <syf> looks good -_- 20:43:22 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: Belugas: well.. currently the php codes are 28k lines(!) 20:43:42 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: well, including compiled smarty template files. 20:45:07 <MiHaMiX> er... included the complete old webtranslator's source :DD 20:45:14 <MiHaMiX> and some other codes as well :DDD 20:45:33 <hylje> php5 is fun 20:45:51 <hylje> and high line amounts arent that bad as long as the code is properly structured 20:46:13 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36279.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:36 <MiHaMiX> 2633 total 20:46:45 <MiHaMiX> this is the total :D 20:46:47 *** KUDr [i=KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:47:08 <peter1138> hylje: it was more the load average i was concerned with 20:47:10 <BurtyB> hmm my current project is 2.4K lines of php and 1.8K of javascript *shudder* 20:47:20 <peter1138> Swap: 1024880K total, 1001624K used, 23256K free, 18744K cached 20:47:22 <peter1138> generally not good 20:47:27 <MiHaMiX> sorry, had some 'redundancy' in the source structure (storing every old snapshot of WT1) 20:47:41 <MiHaMiX> total used free shared buffers cached 20:47:41 <MiHaMiX> Mem: 8159836 8114408 45428 0 9640 7660840 20:47:41 <MiHaMiX> -/+ buffers/cache: 443928 7715908 20:47:41 <MiHaMiX> Swap: 4194296 83572 4110724 20:47:43 <BurtyB> that looks fine peter1138 20:48:54 <MiHaMiX> BurtyB: well, not to mention JS codes.. 20:49:07 <Osai> hi all :) 20:49:12 <MiHaMiX> BurtyB: 172 lines of JS :) 20:49:16 <peter1138> Tron: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ccur.diff 20:49:23 <BurtyB> MiHaMiX :), i wish I only had that much 20:50:00 <Tron> peter1138: hm? 20:50:11 <MiHaMiX> BurtyB: I understood you, i have another project in which I have 944lines of JS and it'll surely increase :) 20:50:16 <peter1138> (char)(unsigned long)p doesn't work 20:50:21 <lc> you could play a 8192x8192 map on that machine 20:50:33 <MiHaMiX> lc: to me? :) 20:50:38 <peter1138> *(char*)ptr = *(char*)p does, but maybe i missed something... 20:50:41 <MiHaMiX> lc: i don't really believe :) 20:50:42 <lc> MiHaMiX: yes 20:50:54 <MiHaMiX> lc: postgresql wouldn't like that situation :D 20:51:26 <MiHaMiX> lc: 95% of HDD cache is for caching Postgresql database files into memory :) 20:51:43 <peter1138> lc, it might've been free -b ;) 20:52:21 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: it's for you: 20:52:24 <MiHaMiX> # free -b total used free shared buffers cached 20:52:24 <MiHaMiX> Mem: 8355672064 8308998144 46673920 0 9871360 7844769792 20:52:24 <MiHaMiX> -/+ buffers/cache: 454356992 7901315072 20:52:24 <MiHaMiX> Swap: 4294959104 85577728 4209381376 20:52:25 <Kjetil> freebe ? 20:52:35 <peter1138> hehe 20:52:48 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: we have 4 box like this :D 20:53:07 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: and 14 like this: 20:53:08 <MiHaMiX> total used free shared buffers cached 20:53:08 <MiHaMiX> Mem: 4153454592 4093345792 60108800 0 4997120 2843439104 20:53:08 <MiHaMiX> -/+ buffers/cache: 1244909568 2908545024 20:53:10 <MiHaMiX> Swap: 4294959104 0 4294959104 20:53:15 <peter1138> heh 20:54:01 *** MeusH [n=kvirc@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 20:54:04 <MeusH> hello 20:54:17 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: hi 20:54:25 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i'll upgrade the wiki tomorrow 20:54:29 <MeusH> great 20:55:07 <MeusH> I'll have spare time tommorow, in about 17-18 hours 20:55:33 *** wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:55:35 <MeusH> 14:30 GMT I think 20:55:41 <MiHaMiX> that'll be perfect, since I'm planning to upgrade the wiki at around 11 am CET 20:55:52 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:56:07 <MiHaMiX> i think the upgrade will took at most 30 minutes 20:56:13 <MiHaMiX> but that's the max 20:56:21 <MeusH> i've been just enlighted, we live in the same timezone, right? :) 20:56:30 <MiHaMiX> lol, yes :DD 20:56:34 <MeusH> great 20:56:47 <MeusH> do you switch to daylight save time? 20:57:01 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: yes 20:57:19 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: it's 21:57 here 20:57:26 <MeusH> same here 20:57:29 <MeusH> okay, that's perfect for our relationship 20:57:31 <MeusH> o_O dang 20:57:38 <MiHaMiX> :DD 20:58:17 <MeusH> what would you like me to do? 20:58:41 <MeusH> anyway, is there a blacklist variant that looks for bad words in the whole article, not only links? 20:58:54 <MeusH> or anything that can filter out "viagra"? 20:59:03 <hylje> regular expressions 20:59:08 <MeusH> usually viagra selling sites doesn't contain "viagra" in their names 20:59:15 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i don't know, please look after that. I'm just performing certain administrative tasks 20:59:22 <MeusH> okay 20:59:33 <MeusH> I'll learn more looking at the links 20:59:35 <lc> don't you read spam ? cialis is far better than viagra 20:59:38 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: if you name an extension to MW which will do that I'll try to install 20:59:56 <BurtyB> all natural too 21:00:07 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: and i'd like you to check the integrity of the wiki pages after the switch 21:00:42 <MeusH> okay 21:01:10 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:23 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: thanks 21:01:30 <MiHaMiX> bbl, WT2 21:01:59 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:02:33 <MeusH> WT2? What's that? 21:02:36 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-54.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 21:03:34 <MiHaMiX> ??info WT2 21:03:41 <MiHaMiX> WT2: WebTranslator2 21:04:34 <MeusH> okay 21:04:36 <MeusH> w8 a sec 21:04:50 <MeusH> Bruce98 pointed me to http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup&returnto=Main_Page 21:05:18 <MeusH> we'll see this protection method tommorow, won't we? 21:06:29 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i hope :D 21:07:26 <MeusH> okay 21:15:32 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: It was a bit tiring task, but I finished the blacklist 21:15:33 <MeusH> http://blacklist.chongqed.org/ 21:15:37 <MeusH> :P 21:16:07 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: you got this from squidguard blacklist? 21:19:59 <MeusH> dunno 21:20:07 <MeusH> but I've found more "official" things 21:20:07 <MeusH> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist 21:20:24 <MeusH> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBlacklist/cleanup.php < cleanup script, to remove past spam 21:21:07 <MeusH> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_Filter < this one is a big project, give me some time to read this page 21:23:32 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: the first 2 links are known for me 21:23:47 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: we're using the first one as a basic spamlist 21:24:23 <MeusH> also, the rewriteme authorisation should take care of spambots, I think 21:25:50 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:29:22 <peter1138> Darkvater: ping? 21:32:30 *** glx|away is now known as glx 21:32:36 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6401.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 21:33:28 <peter1138> 4910 mysql 14 0 25568 13M 2904 D 0.2 2.7 0:01 mysqld 21:33:28 <peter1138> 4912 mysql 14 0 25568 13M 2904 D 0.2 2.7 0:01 mysqld 21:33:28 <peter1138> 4935 mysql 13 0 25504 13M 2816 D 0.2 2.7 0:01 mysqld 21:33:32 <peter1138> * a lot 21:33:57 * peter1138 brutually kills it. muwhahaha 21:34:14 <peter1138> well, i will if my terminal responds 21:34:19 *** fyzix [n=pascal@0x503ee01d.virnxx9.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:34:47 <Bjarni> peter1138: you are cruel 21:35:07 <peter1138> bjarni: you are bjarni 21:35:07 <Bjarni> you killed my sql and it didn't do you anything 21:35:10 <Bjarni> o_O 21:35:10 <fyzix> Can anybody tell me how to make my trains to go the same way around when I've made a circle? 21:35:21 <hylje> oneway signals 21:35:26 <peter1138> put signals on it 21:35:28 <Bjarni> fyzix: one way signals 21:35:38 <fyzix> yeah. how do I make them oneway? 21:35:52 <Bjarni> ... 21:36:12 <Bjarni> I just replied to one n00b question. Now somebody else have to take over 21:36:17 <Bjarni> everybody knows this one ;) 21:36:20 <hylje> well 21:36:21 <Bjarni> err 21:36:27 <Bjarni> well, almost everybody 21:36:30 <fyzix> lol. allright, please help 21:36:40 <hylje> "build" signals on existing ones to toggle twoway and oneways 21:36:52 <Bjarni> try to "build" a signal on a signal you already have 21:37:14 <MeusH> put a signal on a existing signal 21:37:30 <MeusH> also try it with ctrl to get pre-signals 21:37:31 <fyzix> AHHH. ok. Thanks... that wasn't quite so obvious as it might seem 21:38:17 <Bjarni> but it's the way it have always been 21:38:38 <Bjarni> TTD works like that too and TTDpatch and we had it like that even from version 0.1.1 21:38:56 *** XeryusTC is now known as XeryusW3 21:39:29 *** TrueLight [n=kvirc@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:39:38 <Bjarni> TrueLight! 21:39:45 <Bjarni> I thought you were asleep 21:39:46 <peter1138> ooh, it's catching up 21:40:22 <peter1138> Bjarni: found the cause of the cheats window being stuffed, by the way 21:40:27 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:40:41 <Bjarni> peter1138: good. Is it fixable? 21:40:52 <peter1138> yes 21:40:56 <Bjarni> :) 21:41:02 <peter1138> Darkvater replaced a SetDParam64 with a SetDParam 21:41:04 <peter1138> "doh" 21:41:11 <Bjarni> lol 21:41:16 <Bjarni> why did he do that? 21:42:05 <peter1138> typo, or thinko? 21:42:06 <peter1138> heh 21:42:45 <Bjarni> btw Brianetta asked if he should use his nightly server for elrails. What do you guys say? 21:43:18 <Bjarni> it would get people to play them a lot 21:43:46 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:44:05 <peter1138> if he wants 21:44:06 <Bjarni> oh that line reminds me 21:44:22 <Bjarni> <peter1138> if he wants <-- he is asking us what we think 21:44:42 <MeusH> Celestar, you are the one and the only! 21:44:43 <peter1138> i don't think 21:44:47 <MeusH> :[ 21:44:50 <MeusH> OpenTTD is awesome! 21:44:53 <MeusH> really 21:44:58 <peter1138> is it? 21:45:06 <MeusH> It rocks everything 21:45:15 <Bjarni> gone is the state your characters get if they fail to save vs spells when somebody cast distengrate on them in Pools of Darkness (kids: none of you have ever seen this game) 21:45:15 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 21:45:22 <peter1138> bah 21:45:25 <peter1138> killing mysql hasn't helped :( 21:45:40 <peter1138> Bjarni: what? 21:46:02 <Bjarni> it was a respond to --- Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:46:31 <Bjarni> but so much happened in between that it seemed out of context 21:47:08 <Bjarni> I just mean I thought like "shit, now I lost him and all the items I gave him" :p 21:47:41 <Bjarni> however Belugas tend to show up again after being gone and then he have what he had when he went gone 21:47:50 <Bjarni> so gone in Canada is not that bad 21:47:50 * peter1138 kills all php processes 21:48:04 <Bjarni> :( 21:48:12 <Bjarni> peter1138 turned into a serial killer 21:48:14 <MeusH> peter1138, please tell me what's 2ccmap.grf 21:48:48 <peter1138> it's an imaginary file 21:49:13 <MeusH> a dummy to make 2 company colour vehicles looking nice in-game? 21:50:19 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:57:41 <Bjarni> MeusH: why do you post something on the forum INSTEAD of saying it in the channel? 21:59:41 <Bjarni> MeusH: do you keep this page up to date? 21:59:42 <Bjarni> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/New_Features_Since_0.4.5 21:59:50 <Bjarni> the rest of us forget to do so :( 21:59:53 <peter1138> anyone can, heh 22:00:02 <peter1138> hehe 22:00:17 <peter1138> ffs 22:00:21 <peter1138> mysql just isn't dying :( 22:00:33 * Bjarni gives peter1138 a bigger gun 22:00:47 <Born_Acorn> I can't sort any vehicle list :( 22:01:13 * Bjarni gives peter1138 an AK47 22:01:24 <Bjarni> cheap and fully automatic 22:01:42 * SpComb gives peter1138 a PHALANX 22:01:45 <Bjarni> aims like shit thought, so you will get a lot of misfires, but that's not my problem 22:01:49 <SpComb> for that matter, why not two? 22:01:51 <BurtyB> and one for evey man alive or some stupid stat 22:02:10 <SpComb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phalanx_CIWS.jpg 22:02:18 <SpComb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C-RAM_3.JPG <-- the internals 22:02:25 <SpComb> fits nicely in a backpack 22:03:08 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: why not? it works for me... 22:03:13 <Bjarni> I would still go with the plasma rifle 22:03:23 <Born_Acorn> Where are the doodads to do it? 22:03:24 <Bjarni> lighter and more efficient 22:03:49 <peter1138> uh... on a vehicle list... 22:04:30 * Bjarni charges his plasma rifle and aims it at.... 22:04:35 <Bjarni> SpComb 22:04:39 * Bjarni fires 22:04:58 * SpComb ducks before Bjarni fires 22:05:00 <Bjarni> oops, I need to fix this rifle. Now I killed Born_Acorn 22:05:11 <Bjarni> the aim is all fucked up 22:05:16 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 22:05:19 <SpComb> like on a AK47? 22:05:27 <Bjarni> not unlikely 22:05:39 <Bjarni> and now it hit TrueLight :( 22:05:44 * SpComb revvs up his PHALANX 22:05:46 <SpComb> rawr 22:06:04 <SpComb> The basis of the system is a 20mm M61 Vulcan gatling gun linked to a radar system for acquiring and tracking targets. The gun fires at a variable 4,500 rounds per minute (hydraulic models only fired 3,000 rounds per minute): it is mounted in a self-contained turret along with an automated fire control system. The system automatically searches, detects, tracks, engages and confirms kills using its computer-controlled radar system. The entire unit weighs 5625 kg or 6120 kg. 22:06:06 * Bjarni bypass the auto target device and aims manually 22:06:23 * Bjarni watches SpComb's PHALANX melt 22:06:27 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:06:30 <SpComb> it's fully automatic 22:06:38 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:06:51 * SpComb sets it up in the middle of #openttd on a 10 second timer, and leaves quickly, locking the door behind him 22:06:56 <Bjarni> we better stop this 22:07:06 <Bjarni> Nubian melted too 22:07:09 <Born_Acorn> Where on a vehicle list? I can't see anything! 22:07:14 <Bjarni> and Mucht is sleeping with the fishes 22:07:18 * SpComb watches everyone get slaughtered 22:07:59 <ThePizzaKing> damn, I think that's the tenth time I've been killed on this channel, some whay or another 22:08:28 <Bjarni> err 22:08:43 <Bjarni> ThePizzaKing: we can't kill you 22:08:48 <Bjarni> you are already below ground 22:08:56 <Bjarni> even lower than 6 feet under 22:08:58 <Scia> damn... I'm not waterproof anymore 22:09:09 <ThePizzaKing> oh yeah, I forgot 22:09:11 <Scia> thanks Bjarni :( 22:09:12 *** irCuBiC_ [n=ircubic@ti231210a080-4672.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 22:09:20 <Bjarni> Scia: you mean you leak? 22:09:30 *** znikoz2 [n=1@193.227.251.17] has quit [] 22:09:42 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! The only things on this vehicle purchase list clickable are X, The trains, Build Vehicle and Rename! 22:09:44 <Scia> yes, they put holes in me 22:09:50 <SpComb> !insult Bjarni 22:09:52 <Born_Acorn> (and the scrollbar) 22:09:55 <SpComb> crap 22:10:01 <Bjarni> !insult SpComb 22:10:02 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells SpComb: You have less value than a shovel full of horse shit. Do yourself and everyone else a favor: paint crosshairs on your forehead and walk across a rifle firing range, you unicycle-pedalling blubberhead in floppy clown shoes. 22:10:23 <Bjarni> my trusted servant stopped taking orders against me 22:10:25 <SpComb> drive a unicycle in clown shoes? 22:10:56 * SpComb paints corsshairs on his forehead and commences to aim his thought energy at Bjarni 22:11:04 <Bjarni> !insult SpComb 22:11:04 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells SpComb: If you ever waste my time again with another one of these sonnets to your stupidity, I will uppercut your jaw so hard that your head snaps backward and then snaps forward in perfect synchronicity for me to head butt you into a seven-year coma. 22:11:06 <SpComb> through the crossairs! 22:11:27 <Bjarni> hey it gave that insult to AlexFili as well 22:11:54 <Bjarni> somehow it worked better on AlexFili 22:12:05 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: oh, the purchase list 22:12:10 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: no, that's not sortable 22:12:44 <Bjarni> heh 22:12:47 <Bjarni> not yet 22:13:39 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, "2006-02-04 r3546 - [NewGRF] Implement manual sorting of vehicle purchase list " 22:13:51 <Born_Acorn> its wrong! 22:14:42 <SpComb> yes, all wrong 22:14:50 <SpComb> I vote we remove Born_Acorn immdeiatly 22:15:13 <Bjarni> ok 22:15:15 <Born_Acorn> *immediately 22:15:22 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6401.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 22:15:28 <Scia> How do you want to do that? he gained some weight with all the lead in him :P 22:15:28 <Born_Acorn> I vote we don't. 22:17:32 <SpComb> I vote we ignore Born_Acorn's vote 22:18:37 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: sorting via newgrf info 22:18:49 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: i.e. your ukrs list is in the correct order 22:20:24 <SpComb> GAME OVER - You Win! Click Here to start a new game. 22:20:32 *** irCuBiC [n=ircubic@80.213.18.68] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:20:48 <Born_Acorn> Back to 2cc! 22:24:07 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:29:52 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 22:30:20 <MeusH> <@Bjarni> MeusH: do you keep this page up to date? <-- no, I'm busy keeping wiki out of spam... or looking for anti spam protection 22:30:34 <MeusH> tommorow, however, spam shouldn't be a problem anymore 22:30:39 <MeusH> so this page will be updated 22:31:13 <MeusH> MeusH: why do you post something on the forum INSTEAD of saying it in the channel? <-- you mean that electrified railways suggestion? 22:37:07 <Bjarni> yeah 22:37:39 <Bjarni> a lot of posts on the forum will never be read by the developers 22:38:06 <MeusH> allright 22:38:16 <peter1138> also 22:38:40 <MeusH> I can take a look at the code and try making that feature, but I'm aware that patch can rest on bugs.openttd.org for ages, too 22:38:50 <Bjarni> also instead of proclaiming it to a lot of people, it would be faster to tell peter1138 right away so he can code a fix before anybody else notice it ;) 22:39:28 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176116115.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 22:40:42 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CDDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 22:41:07 *** dfox [n=dfox@r2p136.chello.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:41:08 <MeusH> allright 22:41:12 <MeusH> remove that post then 22:41:17 <Bjarni> no 22:41:22 <Bjarni> now you wrote it 22:42:06 <Bjarni> but I meant in the future, if you want to tell peter1138 something, tell him in the channel when you are both here instead of leaving IRC to write a message for him on the forum 22:42:51 <MeusH> okay 22:43:05 <Bjarni> it reminds me of the guy, who sent me an Email with a question and I walked the 3 meters to him to talk about it and he insisted on getting a reply in his mainbox 22:43:08 <MeusH> sorry, I got it 22:43:25 <MeusH> lol, nice one 22:43:49 <MeusH> so anyway, is peter1138 going to code it? 22:44:00 <Bjarni> let's ask him 22:44:25 <Bjarni> peter1138: are you going to code what MeusH wrote on the forum, but didn't say in here? 22:44:48 <MeusH> :P 22:45:00 <MeusH> I'll tell it now. Be prepared 22:45:24 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498E83C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:45:30 <MeusH> Railway should be changed to Electrified Railway when placing Electrified Railway track on Railway tile 22:45:32 <peter1138> i might 22:45:37 <peter1138> however 22:45:46 <peter1138> i'd already thought about that several days ago :P 22:45:53 <MeusH> imagine you've got a straight Railway track 22:45:58 <MeusH> try to cross it with Electrified Railway 22:46:01 <MeusH> you won't be able 22:46:14 <peter1138> lol 22:46:15 <peter1138> ok 22:46:20 <peter1138> i think i fixed this server 22:46:28 <MeusH> this should be able to be done, so Railway need to be changed to Electrified Railway 22:46:36 <peter1138> 22:46:30 up 232 days, 18:40, 3 users, load average: 0.68, 2.80, 13.51 22:46:53 <MeusH> also this would reduce the build time, since player wouldn't have to click on convert tool 22:47:08 <peter1138> are you still talking? 22:47:14 <MeusH> no, I just finished. 22:47:21 <Bjarni> I didn't say anything 22:47:57 <MeusH> I should go sleep now 22:48:17 <MeusH> let me know if you take it, or you leave it for me to do 22:48:18 <MeusH> cya 22:48:20 <Bjarni> MeusH: I got a question for you 22:48:25 <MeusH> uh, what? 22:48:58 <Bjarni> whenever somebody says Poland, I think of a place with a lot of dirty coal mines. Any idea why? 22:49:08 <Bjarni> I mean I think of the mines exclusively 22:49:19 <Bjarni> is it like all you got or something? 22:49:27 <MeusH> southwestern part of Poland has lot of dirty mines 22:49:39 <MeusH> it isn't rich part of the country, most people mine there 22:50:18 <MeusH> nevermind it, when someone says Czech I think if place with a lot of dirty coal mines 22:50:25 <Bjarni> heh 22:50:44 <Bjarni> I think I think like that because I have burned a lot of Polish coal 22:50:54 <MeusH> anyway, southwestern part is industrial, while rest ist arigutical 22:51:03 <Bjarni> I have burned German coal as well, yet Germany is not a place with a lot of dirty coal mines 22:51:11 <MeusH> yeah, polish coal is good :D 22:51:16 <Bjarni> yeah, it is 22:51:36 <Bjarni> some of the German is as well, but not all of it 22:51:37 <MeusH> Germany has lot of dirty mines in "Ruhra valley" or whatever you call this place 22:51:47 <MeusH> also heavy industrial area 22:51:53 <Bjarni> I know 22:52:23 <MeusH> Poland is much more a rural area with lot of farming fields, and business done only in cities 22:52:59 <MeusH> there are still villages without fresh water (if you call a stream or well fresh water, then most villages has fresh water) 22:53:25 <Bjarni> somehow I'm not surprised 22:53:36 <MeusH> yep, that's what I thought 22:53:44 <MeusH> And you live in Denmark, don't you? 22:53:51 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176124126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:54:02 <Bjarni> communism is not known to take good care of everybody in the country 22:54:41 <Bjarni> <MeusH> And you live in Denmark, don't you? <-- no, I just stole this DNS, so people don't know that I live in Peru 22:54:52 <Bjarni> people tend to think less of Peru than Europe 22:55:01 <MeusH> I don't use whois command much :) 22:55:09 <MeusH> It was nice speaking with you but I really need to go, I've got only 5 hours of sleep 22:55:10 <MeusH> cya 22:55:20 <Bjarni> oops 22:55:22 <Bjarni> same here :( 22:55:28 *** MeusH [n=kvirc@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"] 22:55:41 <Bjarni> ok, a bit more than 5 hours, but I'm not sleeping yet 22:55:44 <Bjarni> goodnight 22:55:49 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588a8d.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:00:29 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping-reply 23:00:58 *** XeryusW3 is now known as XeryusTC 23:04:41 <peter1138> Darkvater: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/miscfixes.diff 23:05:16 <Darkvater> peter1138: you would've been better off committing it cause I have the same fixes :) 23:05:32 <Darkvater> well except for misc_gui.c which is better here 23:06:09 <peter1138> heh 23:06:23 <peter1138> well, i'm going to bed now :) 23:06:33 <peter1138> nn 23:06:35 <Darkvater> hmm is the D0 23:06:44 <Darkvater> for restart_game_date 23:06:45 <peter1138> 's way past my bed time 23:07:01 <peter1138> dunno how that works really, but restart_game_date == 0 means disabled, so... 23:07:15 * peter1138 > gone 23:07:16 <Darkvater> so that already works? 23:10:08 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r3852 /trunk/settings.c: - Revert r3733 which fixed the default value loading for char, but broke loading a set value. Added a better fix which needs a char value to be a string (eg enclosed in double-quotes) 23:13:23 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r3853 /trunk/misc_gui.c: - Fix a change of SetDParam64 to SetDParam in r3713 that caused slightly vibrating text when pressing the cheat-button. Thanks to peter1138 for noticing. 23:14:14 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:14:38 <Brianetta> Guys 23:14:40 <Brianetta> For the elrail server I need either a source patch or a non-SDL binary 23:15:34 * Brianetta pokes everybody 23:16:25 <Scia> Brianetta: svn://svn.openttd.org/branch/elrail 23:16:49 <Brianetta> ta 23:17:36 <Scia> I hope the restart_game_date will be fixed soon 23:17:48 <Brianetta> That isn't just me, is it? 23:17:55 <Scia> your server was empty due to that the last few days... 23:18:08 <Brianetta> I have no idea what it should be set to to disable it 23:18:13 <Brianetta> I#ve put it to 2090 23:18:21 <Brianetta> but it treats 0 as 1920 23:18:24 <Scia> Brianetta: it can't be disabled yet 23:18:53 <Brianetta> Well, I never set it to 0 but there's where it was. 23:18:56 *** KUDr [i=KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 23:19:01 <Brianetta> Hey KUDr 23:19:03 <Scia> yes 23:19:08 <KUDr> cau 23:19:29 <Scia> It should have been 0, but Openttd replaces that by 1920 automagically 23:19:39 <Scia> hi KUDr 23:19:47 <KUDr> :) hi 23:20:11 <Brianetta> OK, elrails server going 23:20:26 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r3854 /trunk/settings.c: - Fix restart_game_date to default to zero and allow a value of 0 which got screwed up during the patch-rewrite. Thanks peter1138 23:20:51 <Darkvater> behold 23:21:17 <Brianetta> I put it at 2090 which is a date my games rarely reach 23:21:27 <Brianetta> I suppose 2090 would work better, as the game can't reach that at all (: 23:21:32 <Brianetta> 2091 even 23:21:32 <Scia> :D nice work Darkvater 23:22:36 <Darkvater> some things went a bit wrong with changing the ~100 patches....sorry 23:22:40 <Scia> and peter1138 also ofcourse 23:22:57 <Brianetta> Magic numbers, yes? 23:23:12 <Brianetta> Get rid of a magic number, then find out what it did 23:24:16 *** fyzix [n=pascal@0x503ee01d.virnxx9.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:24:43 <Brianetta> cd data ; svn info * | grep "Not a versioned" 23:24:57 <Brianetta> That should tell me the files I need to copy over to elrail from trunk, shouldn'#t it? 23:25:47 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bed 23:27:12 <Brianetta> Hmm 23:27:23 <Brianetta> is r3853S the version that was posted to the forum? 23:28:16 <Darkvater> why do you want to copy over files? 23:29:24 <glx> Brianetta: a branch is like a stand-alone version 23:29:26 <Brianetta> Darkvater: There are no required files from TTD left 23:29:30 <Brianetta> ? 23:29:37 <Scia> how can I 'downgrade' to r3853S? I have r3854 of elrails :S 23:29:54 <glx> Brianetta: grf and sample.cat as always 23:30:01 <Brianetta> Scia: I'll try to get the server to match, don't worry 23:30:18 <Brianetta> glx: "as always" - like I do this every day 23:30:39 <Brianetta> Checked out revision 3854. 23:30:46 <Scia> k :) 23:31:03 <Brianetta> Wait, did smoething just get sommitted? 23:31:27 <glx> yes but in trunk :) 23:31:47 <Brianetta> r3854S now 23:32:03 <Brianetta> Which version are the posted binaries? 23:32:15 <Brianetta> Most testers will have those 23:32:35 <Scia> r3848 23:32:55 <Scia> how do you get the 'S' behind it? 23:33:09 <Scia> I will check out a binarie 23:33:13 <Scia> see what that says 23:33:57 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B80843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 23:34:01 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0/2006013012]"] 23:34:01 * Brianetta reverts to 3848 23:35:29 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:35:48 <Brianetta> Any joy, Scia? 23:36:16 <Scia> Brianetta: the binary says r3848, so without an S 23:36:52 <Brianetta> OK, can you connect? 23:37:06 <Brianetta> wait 23:37:09 <Scia> yes 23:37:25 <Scia> wait i need to set up the newgrfs 23:37:28 <Brianetta> It's binding to all IPs 23:37:50 <Brianetta> Which newgrfs need specifying? 23:38:11 <Scia> is it just the three as usual? 23:38:20 <Brianetta> Oh, UK 23:38:27 <Brianetta> I wasn't going to put that on at first 23:38:30 <Scia> Brianetta: elrails is loaded automatically 23:38:33 <Scia> oh ok 23:38:36 <Brianetta> Then go for it 23:38:46 <Scia> pass? 23:39:00 <Brianetta> electric 23:39:12 <Scia> there I am 23:39:18 <Brianetta> It's all on the web page in the server name 23:39:31 *** irCuBiC [n=ircubic@ti231210a080-4672.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 23:39:35 * Brianetta compiles a client 23:39:47 <Brianetta> elrail.c:74: warning: `OwnedPPPonPCP' defined but not used 23:40:50 <Scia> Brianetta: I know, but I was too lazy :P 23:40:52 <Scia> ;) 23:44:30 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@139.222.236.198] has quit ["/quit"] 23:46:09 *** glx|away [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:47:02 *** Zajin [n=zajin@dslb-088-072-033-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:47:56 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye"] 23:48:34 *** glx|away is now known as glx 23:53:30 *** irCuBiC_ [n=ircubic@ti231210a080-4672.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:57:33 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2D4D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd