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00:08:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:08:53 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:46 <amazon10x> is there a way to rotate the view? 00:19:47 <glx> no 00:20:11 <amazon10x> hmm, is there any plans to add that? 00:20:15 <amazon10x> are* 00:21:17 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 00:21:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but that is a looooong time to go 00:22:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> meaning, 32bpp support and total graphic replacement 00:22:49 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4635 /branch/yapf/ (disaster_cmd.c rail_map.h): [YAPF] Fix: missing YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange() when track is deleted by disaster (thanks XeryusTC) 00:23:22 <KUDr> XeryusTC: here we go 00:24:49 <ln-> hyvää vappua 00:32:22 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-142-82.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 00:35:27 <amazon10x> what's a good amount of time for the servicing interval? 00:35:42 <KUDr> 1 day 00:35:43 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Client Quit] 00:38:12 <amazon10x> seriously... 00:39:11 <ln-> never 00:39:20 <KUDr> no idea - i have disabled breakdowns and always force trains to pass depots 00:46:18 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:46:37 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:56:57 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:59:04 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 01:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> breakdowns are teh suxx0r :p 01:08:26 *** Xaroth [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:29:02 <black_Nightmare> back 01:30:02 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:31:10 <PandaMojo> Is anyone else having problems connecting to wiki.openttd.org ? 01:31:38 <glx> yeah it's down 01:32:06 <PandaMojo> Bleh. At least it's not the fault of my connection this time I guess :-) 01:34:26 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 01:34:51 <black_Nightmare> heh 01:35:04 <black_Nightmare> just curious but how often are nightly builds released on average? 01:35:08 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:35:20 <glx> every night 01:35:42 <black_Nightmare> hmm this night must be a skip then :p 01:35:54 <glx> the server is down :) 01:35:54 <black_Nightmare> (brianetta still using same ver as yesterday night) 01:36:01 <black_Nightmare> lol... :p 01:36:04 <black_Nightmare> fair enough 01:36:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> nightlies get compiled at 20:00 CEST, unless something fails 01:36:18 <black_Nightmare> if it fails..its held to the next day..right? 01:36:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> in this case, obviously it failed :p 01:36:22 <glx> and briannetta compiles it's own 01:37:03 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: maybe it compiled fine, but it's not available :) 01:37:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is quite possible ;) 01:40:47 <black_Nightmare> ughh..dayumm..this no fun.. 01:40:55 <black_Nightmare> I need a building deleted but noone else is on at all 01:40:58 <black_Nightmare> ^_^ 01:41:02 <black_Nightmare> oh well hehe 01:44:43 <black_Nightmare> guess I'll go off soon and let the server pause then hope someone is on in morning :p 01:49:32 *** ln- [i=lauri@turunturvatekniikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:54:46 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:02:45 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@82-37-135-45.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:02:56 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 02:09:56 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:10:00 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.106.143.153] has quit ["bye"] 02:10:21 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 02:14:43 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:16:16 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 02:29:16 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:30:29 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 02:34:19 *** MaulingMonkey [n=chatzill@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:47 <MaulingMonkey> Anyone know if there's any plans to increase the display width limit beyond ~2048? 02:36:39 <MaulingMonkey> (and/or if this is something trivial to change in source) 02:37:19 <MaulingMonkey> It stretches up to 1.5 screens wide, I want 2 :( 02:41:18 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 02:48:12 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 02:48:25 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:58:07 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 03:13:08 *** amazon10x [n=bleh@gmp-inet36-7-67.gmpexpress.net] has left #openttd [] 03:17:04 *** amazon10x [n=bleh@gmp-inet36-7-67.gmpexpress.net] has joined #openttd 03:19:37 <Vornicus> there's I think something like MAX_SCREEN_WIDTH somewhere in the source, but I believe it's used to determine the size of the blocks that get redrawn. 03:20:23 <MaulingMonkey> Guess I'll take a peek at that later, thanks 03:20:35 <Vornicus> So increasing it may require increasing some other things as well... in which case you're probably better off getting an answer from someone who has some idea at all what they're doing. 03:21:38 <MaulingMonkey> I guess I'll just use the 1/2 screen part for the windows in the meantime :) 03:22:03 <Vornicus> heh 03:23:00 <Vornicus> But yeah, there's a reason it's currently only so big, something about bigger screen chunks requiring more time to process. A reason that, if you have a v. good computer, you can reasonably ignore. 03:24:26 <MaulingMonkey> It's good enough I'm not noticing any slowing down or anything at the max width, except during saving 03:24:45 <MaulingMonkey> even then, only noticed that due to being in fast forward 03:29:28 <Vornicus> Really the whole graphics system needs a rewrite to take advantage of modern graphics cards. 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It was you wasn't it!?"] 06:04:43 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:15:10 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:21:26 *** MaulingMonkey [n=chatzill@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"] 06:38:17 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:38:43 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4636 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: when dealing with vehicle types other than trains, set the parent scope vehicle to be the same as self scope. (Thanks mart3p) 06:38:49 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 06:40:31 <brygge_2> the link "http://nigthly.openttd.org" is broken..... 06:43:33 <peter1138> yes 06:43:49 <brygge_2> when willl it be fixed? 06:43:54 <brygge_2> will* 06:44:09 *** egladil [n=egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [] 06:44:48 <peter1138> when truelight hears of and can fix it 06:45:00 <brygge_2> ok 06:50:17 *** egladil [n=egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 06:54:44 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.2.100] has joined #openttd 07:01:27 *** ln- [i=lauri@turunturvatekniikka.fi] has joined #openttd 07:03:55 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 07:07:09 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:34:05 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2454.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 07:35:19 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 07:39:53 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.146.181] has joined #openttd 07:46:40 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.146.181] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:54:54 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-22-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:09:53 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.146.181] has joined #openttd 08:11:40 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 08:12:33 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4637 /branch/yapf/train_cmd.c: [YAPF] Remove: YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChanged() calls from DeleteLastWagon() - reverts changes made to train_cmd.c by r4615 08:16:34 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 08:19:52 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 08:23:02 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 08:26:31 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 08:29:39 <Celestar> morning peops 08:30:08 <KUDr> gm 08:31:24 <Celestar> oh man 08:31:29 <Celestar> I had some fun with the AI ... 08:33:16 <KUDr> what fun? bridge building? 08:33:22 <Celestar> yeah 08:33:35 <KUDr> can imagine 08:33:43 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/fun_ai/0.png 08:33:48 <Celestar> also 1.png, 2.png, 3.png, 4.png 08:34:31 <KUDr> crossing bridges! 08:34:34 <KUDr> nice 08:34:41 <Celestar> not really crossing (yet) 08:34:45 <Celestar> just Bridges of Bridgeheads 08:35:02 <Celestar> crossing bridges come a bit later 08:36:02 <KUDr> it looks like it was expected - more AI freedom - more stupid layouts 08:36:07 <Celestar> yeah. 08:36:21 <Celestar> the AI should MAYBE look at path costs. 08:36:37 <Celestar> KUDr: once PBS and newsignalling is completed, what about using YAPF for AI? (= 08:36:54 <KUDr> why not? 08:37:07 <KUDr> but somebody must explain me rules 08:37:11 <Celestar> ok I will 08:37:19 <KUDr> what is expected from it to do 08:37:21 <Celestar> (like post 0.5.5 or even post 0.6.0) :) 08:37:26 <KUDr> ok 08:37:37 <Celestar> oh I wanted to write down more signalling concepts .. 08:37:48 <Celestar> btw: did anyone ever sue Chris Sawyer? 08:37:50 <KUDr> heh 08:37:56 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4638 /trunk/airport.h: - Codestyle: replacing aligning tabs with spaces 08:37:58 <KUDr> but now you are at work i guess 08:38:11 <Celestar> no 08:38:20 <Celestar> I'm not at work the entire week. 08:38:21 <KUDr> also no 08:38:33 <KUDr> happy man Celestar 08:38:38 <Celestar> peter1138: check those images (= 08:38:40 <Celestar> yeah. 08:38:43 <Celestar> needed a week off. 08:38:48 <Celestar> got TONS of paperwork 08:38:57 <peter1138> looking 08:38:59 <peter1138> fun 08:39:14 <Celestar> ^^ 08:39:19 <Celestar> good for testing... 08:42:14 <Celestar> peter1138: KUDr I wonder what happens if a permit the AI to build on slopes .. 08:42:34 <KUDr> heh 08:42:53 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:10 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: !! I need that tracker !! 08:43:11 <KUDr> my imagination is not so good 08:43:19 <Celestar> neither is mine 08:43:21 <peter1138> i love the passing segments with bridge over the top 08:43:27 <peter1138> it seems to do that alot 08:43:35 <Celestar> yeah. 08:43:42 <KUDr> yes 08:44:14 <Celestar> building bridge THROUGH towns (over roads) is very popular as well ... 08:46:48 <Celestar> hm .. 08:46:52 <Celestar> I like Terragenesis 08:49:52 <XeryusTC> <CIA-3> KUDr * r4635 /branch/yapf/ (disaster_cmd.c rail_map.h): [YAPF] Fix: missing YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange() when track is deleted by disaster (thanks XeryusTC) <- Yay! :D 08:50:18 <KUDr> :) 08:52:28 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 08:52:41 <jnmbk> celestar, can you look at the turkish town name generator now? http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1462983&group_id=103924&atid=636367 08:53:07 <Celestar> jnmbk: looking 08:53:57 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:54:09 <Celestar> jnmbk: but I need another 5 minutes to finish reading through another patch :) 08:54:30 <jnmbk> ok, I can wait whole day :) 09:00:38 * peter1138 arghs 09:00:54 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:01:54 <Celestar> peter1138: ? 09:02:14 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:02:55 <peter1138> missus is on a cleaning urge today 09:03:26 <Celestar> :( 09:03:27 <peter1138> == i have to as well or she'll be pissy 09:03:39 <Celestar> what do we use to convert some user input into a number? 09:03:52 <Celestar> atoi or strtol? 09:06:42 <Celestar> hm ... 09:06:55 <Celestar> what encoding system do we use currently for the chars? 09:06:58 <peter1138> hmm 09:07:24 <peter1138> airport_movement.h contains static array initializations, and is included in several places. isn't that bad? 09:07:30 <Celestar> peter1138: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1462983&group_id=103924&atid=636367 <= would this work? 09:07:44 <Celestar> peter1138: slightly. 09:08:10 <Celestar> well "bad"... it just increases the size of the binary. 09:08:14 <Celestar> otoh ... 09:08:21 <Celestar> it's const no? 09:08:28 <peter1138> yeah 09:09:44 <Celestar> vici@rivendell:[/home/vici/openttd/branch/bridge]> nm openttd | grep _airport_moving_data_country | wc -l 09:09:48 <Celestar> 8 09:09:48 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 09:10:03 <Celestar> why EIGHT times? 09:10:31 <peter1138> it's included in airport.h 09:10:50 <Celestar> oh. 09:11:45 <Celestar> that's a couple of kilobytes in the binary we waste 09:12:19 <Celestar> jnmbk: trying your patch ... 09:12:44 <peter1138> Celestar: i'll tidy it up 09:13:20 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1038603/L/ <= hell this is narrow. 09:13:26 <Celestar> cramped rather. 09:13:29 <Celestar> peter1138: how so? 09:13:43 <peter1138> by reorganising it 09:14:41 <Celestar> jnmbk: one what system did you create that patch? 09:14:45 <peter1138> look like toy planes :) 09:15:01 <Celestar> peter1138: yeah. 09:15:06 <jnmbk> celestar: I use linux 09:15:09 <Celestar> just some 747 toy planes, about 400 tons. 09:15:27 <Celestar> jnmbk: we need testers on win and MacOS, I'm not sure about the special chars. 09:15:37 <Celestar> (at least they cause sorting trouble ^^) 09:15:51 <jnmbk> hmm, they work for turkish.txt 09:16:09 <Celestar> good point. 09:17:21 <Celestar> Towns beginning with "Çay" are sorted wrongly .. hmmz 09:17:55 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:18:44 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 09:18:59 <Celestar> jnmbk: that needs a bit of thought (= 09:19:23 <peter1138> especially when we have to deal with utf-8 09:19:34 <Celestar> otherwise the patch is clean. 09:20:15 <jnmbk> only "ç" letter has sorting problem 09:20:22 <Celestar> yes. 09:20:36 <Celestar> peter1138: will that issue be addressed with UTF-8 implementation? 09:20:47 <Celestar> peter1138: i.e. shall we apply turkish town names? 09:21:25 <peter1138> it's only a minor problem anyway 09:21:54 <Celestar> so that's a yes? 09:22:28 <peter1138> it will have to be addressed 09:22:32 <peter1138> i haven't addressed it yet 09:23:04 <Celestar> ok no worries. 09:23:08 <Celestar> so add turkish town names or not? 09:23:49 <peter1138> go for it 09:23:56 <Celestar> good 09:24:03 <jnmbk> o>-< 09:25:27 <CIA-3> celestar * r4639 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Feature: Turkish town names (jnmbk) 09:25:39 <Celestar> there we go. 09:25:42 <peter1138> nm openttd | grep _airport_moving_data_country -c 09:25:42 <peter1138> 1 09:25:44 <peter1138> better 09:25:48 <Celestar> peter1138: kind of (= 09:26:19 <Celestar> peter1138: but how much does that strip off the binary? 09:26:48 <peter1138> didnt' check ^^ 09:27:14 <Celestar> RichK will not be amused (= 09:27:24 <peter1138> :D 09:27:33 <peter1138> lemme compile without 09:28:12 <Celestar> (release build, stripped and unstripped) 09:29:31 <peter1138> -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 4196594 2006-05-01 10:28 openttd 09:29:33 <peter1138> -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 4149854 2006-05-01 10:29 openttd 09:29:35 <peter1138> hmm 09:29:53 <peter1138> -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 1069224 2006-05-01 10:29 openttd 09:29:56 <peter1138> -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 1031880 2006-05-01 10:29 openttd 09:30:08 <Celestar> hm .. 09:30:10 <Celestar> 30k 09:30:33 <Celestar> well, fits into my cache anyways (= 09:31:06 <Celestar> not in L1 I fear. 09:31:12 <ln-> did i hear someone mention utf-8? 09:31:34 <Celestar> ln-: yes you did 09:32:47 <ln-> hmm, why something so modern? wasn't latin-0 supposed to be enough for anyone? 09:32:59 <Celestar> :P 09:33:29 <Celestar> who said that? 09:33:42 <Celestar> hm crossing bridges are not simple. 09:33:59 <jnmbk> ln: çö?ü? it cant handle these for example :) 09:34:30 <CIA-3> matthijs * r4640 /trunk/ (. direction.h station_cmd.c): 09:34:30 <CIA-3> - Add: IsValidDiagDirection, IsValidDirection and IsValidAxis functions. 09:34:30 <CIA-3> - Codechange: Use IsValidDiagDirection() in CmdBuildRoadStop(). 09:36:02 <ln-> yeah, i know. but there has been a patch for cyrillic letters, and a russian translation for years, but no effort has been paid to integrate that into the trunk. 09:37:28 <Darkvater> morning 09:37:34 <Darkvater> damn this game is addictive :P 09:38:06 <Celestar> Darkvater: yes, it is. 09:38:54 <Darkvater> got me up till 4am 09:38:54 <Darkvater> bah 09:39:07 <Darkvater> stupid africa scenario... it's too good 09:39:08 <Celestar> me too. 09:39:11 <Celestar> but I was WORKING 09:39:14 <Celestar> on bridge problems 09:39:34 <Darkvater> :) 09:42:32 <peter1138> Darkvater: Celestar: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/airporttidy.diff 09:42:46 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104110.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 09:42:53 <peter1138> ln-: because we should do it properly, not as a hack? 09:43:22 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2CCA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:45:38 <Darkvater> +const AirportMovingData* GetAirportMovingData(byte airport_type, byte position) 09:45:42 <Darkvater> +{ 09:45:44 <ln-> it doesn't have to be a hack. but the last time utf-8 was suggested, Darkvater and others were like "oh no, we don't have a strlen() that supports utf-8! we cannot do anything." 09:45:44 <Darkvater> + return &_airport_moving_datas[airport_type][position]; 09:45:50 <Darkvater> * one place to the right 09:45:58 <Darkvater> probably assert airport_type :) 09:45:59 <peter1138> whoops, tronised 09:46:28 <Qball> well if they want they can just copy the strlen from glib's source 09:46:38 <peter1138> ln-: well, don't worry, i've already written utf-8 support and it works 09:46:47 <peter1138> (although input needs to sorted) 09:47:02 <Darkvater> peter1138: hmm, isn't the airport table still in airport_movement.h? 09:47:17 <peter1138> Darkvater: yes 09:47:27 <peter1138> but it's only included once instead of 8 times 09:47:35 <Darkvater> k 09:47:57 <Darkvater> hmm I sould probably get some breakfast 09:48:12 <peter1138> (or 9 times, if i include mart3p's patch as is) 09:48:54 <ln-> peter1138: is it too much to hope that filenames would be in utf-8, too? 09:49:29 <Darkvater> ln-: they already are 09:49:37 <Celestar> ln-: FILENAMES? 09:49:49 * Celestar detests those filenames. 09:50:12 <Celestar> I'm just busy to somehow restrict our fileserver to accepting 7-bit-ASCII chars as filenames 09:50:15 <Darkvater> ln-: just compile with WITH_ICONV 09:55:12 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104110.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [] 09:55:18 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:56:07 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 09:57:37 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 09:57:55 <black_Nightmare> hey 09:58:46 <CIA-3> matthijs * r4641 /trunk/: * Remove svk property added with the last commit. Bad svk, bad svk! Sorry for that. 09:59:27 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2CF5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:59:27 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 09:59:42 <Celestar> svk!? 10:00:45 <blathijs> yes, so I can work on ottd while offline 10:00:52 <blathijs> (on my laptop in the train, for example) 10:06:36 <Celestar> what is it? 10:08:02 <ln-> it's a vehicle that moves on iron rails and transports passengers or cargo. 10:08:13 <vondel> google suggests it's: "A decentralized version control system based on subversion." 10:09:39 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 10:11:43 *** csuke is now known as Red 10:12:10 <Celestar> aaaahhh 10:12:25 <Celestar> Crossing Bridge are giving me headaches 10:13:48 <black_Nightmare> how come? 10:15:54 <Celestar> because they don't work 10:19:29 <black_Nightmare> ohh ic... :-S 10:20:18 <blathijs> Celestar: It is an svn based program that can mirror svn repositories locally and merge them back upstream later 10:20:30 <blathijs> Celestar: and it has some cool branching features I have not yet explored 10:20:57 <Celestar> YAY!!! 10:21:14 <blathijs> hm? 10:22:11 <Celestar> I got them 10:23:18 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge.png 10:23:22 <Celestar> LOOK :) 10:24:05 <TSC> Cool 10:24:21 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 10:24:51 <vondel> nice 10:25:23 <vondel> do crossing bridges have a height property? hanging bridge looks higher than a tube bridge 10:25:53 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge2.png 10:25:58 <Celestar> look again (0 10:26:26 <black_Nightmare> celestar....not to jump up n down too much but if THAT can be included into the nightly build some time soon I'll love to test it out a -lot- to be sure there's no bugs :p 10:27:10 <Celestar> black_Nightmare: I already have about 3-4 major bugs on my list (= 10:27:29 <Celestar> Tron's done a huge part of the work (= 10:28:03 <Celestar> vondel: the tracks do not, and can not, intersect 10:28:14 <black_Nightmare> nice but seriously...bug or not it'll be great to try build bridges over others like that :-D 10:28:39 <vondel> Celestar: i meant: the hanging is bridge's towers are that high that they forbid construction even a level above 10:28:51 <Celestar> vondel: yes. that will be addressed next. 10:28:59 <Celestar> I have tons of display artifaces 10:29:04 <Celestar> artefacts 10:29:08 <Celestar> artifacts? 10:29:11 <Celestar> damnit. 10:29:11 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494534F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:29:31 <Celestar> (elrail drawing is completely disabled as well on bridges) 10:29:53 * Celestar wonders how the AI deals with this feature ^^ 10:30:45 <Celestar> did Tron say where he went? I need him. 10:31:17 <black_Nightmare> hmm that reminds me.... 10:31:38 <black_Nightmare> what the hell does that pin button on right titlebar side do in most dialogs? 10:31:55 <black_Nightmare> all it does is changing between pointing diagonal and down when I click on it..or am I missing something? :p 10:32:24 *** Mek [i=marijn@cc9952-a.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:39 <ThePizzaKing> black_Nightmare: when you use the delete button, it doesn't close the ones that have been pinned 10:33:08 <vondel> very usefull feature when lots op dialogs have opened 10:34:44 <Celestar> brb loo 10:35:16 <blathijs> is bugs.openttd.org slow (broken?) for anyone else? 10:36:04 <ThePizzaKing> I think all those things are broken 10:36:09 <ThePizzaKing> wiki too 10:38:57 <peter1138> how do you sync a branch with trunk? 10:39:51 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:41:18 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176118010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:42:18 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:42:26 <Celestar> peter1138: svn merge svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk -rFROMREV:TOREV . 10:43:26 <black_Nightmare> thepizzaking...oh I see...thanks 10:44:03 <Celestar> I have some issues ... 10:46:49 <Celestar> hmm ... 10:47:01 <Celestar> crossing tunnels under crossing bridges cause problems .. 10:47:25 <Qball> crossing bridges? 10:47:59 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge2.png 10:48:48 <peter1138> ^^ 10:49:23 <Celestar> peter1138: well, it's NOT photoshop ^^ 10:49:38 <Qball> fancy 10:50:03 <Celestar> yeah ^^ 10:50:43 <Celestar> still problematic tho. 10:51:11 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8FEFFE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 10:54:00 <Celestar> hey Born_Acorn 10:54:22 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:54:33 <Celestar> hey Brianetta (= 10:54:57 * Celestar 's in rather good a mood today *jumps up'n'down* 10:55:39 <Darkvater> hehe why so? 10:56:27 <black_Nightmare> brianetta..tell me what you think of this: http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge.png -- would be GREAT to finally have it :)) hehe [celestar posted it first btw] 10:56:34 <Celestar> Darkvater: first I have 1 week of vacation 10:56:43 <Celestar> Darkvater: second http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge2.png 10:57:16 <C-Otto> how exactly do i push a factory from 32k to 200k or so? 10:57:35 <Celestar> Darkvater: third $GF's coming over in an hour or two 10:57:43 <Celestar> C-Otto: deliver more goods. 10:57:50 <Celestar> raw materials rather 10:58:16 <Darkvater> Celestar: hmm $GF = bad for ottd 10:58:19 <Celestar> ^^ 10:58:20 <Darkvater> the other is good :) 10:58:29 <Celestar> Darkvater: servers are broken... 10:58:43 <Darkvater> hmm yeah MiHaMiX is needed 10:58:51 <Darkvater> he has wiki/nightly and translator 10:58:56 <Darkvater> and those are broken 10:59:02 <C-Otto> Celestar: uhm, sorry, i meant: how do i push a raw-thingy-producer.. :) 10:59:14 <Darkvater> C-Otto: cheats 10:59:19 <Celestar> C-Otto: very high ratings and patience. 10:59:22 <Celestar> or cheats (= 11:00:16 <C-Otto> ratings, hm. 11:04:05 <Celestar> black_Nightmare: not to stop your enthusiasm, but it'll take weeks before that is in bridge-branch (=, let alone trunk. 11:04:23 <black_Nightmare> celestar..wouldn't matter as long as its promised to be out eventually :-) 11:04:31 <Celestar> it crashes more often than not currently. 11:04:44 <black_Nightmare> can image looking at someone's diagonal track and just ram a bridge .. instead of having to tunnel 11:04:46 <black_Nightmare> :-) 11:05:06 <Celestar> and I still have flying trains here and there 11:05:40 <black_Nightmare> lol....hover trains!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:05:54 <black_Nightmare> an upgrade from the maglev and no traffic bottleneck anymore except at stations 11:05:56 <black_Nightmare> :p 11:07:38 <Celestar> the problem is, they're uncontrollable. 11:07:46 <Celestar> they just leave the map eventually. 11:10:13 <black_Nightmare> :-> 11:10:32 <black_Nightmare> would be new for "train is lost.....OFF THE EARTH!" dialogs 11:10:33 <Celestar> cause a black hole. 11:10:35 <black_Nightmare> tehehehehehe 11:10:50 <Celestar> which cause the universe to collapse 11:11:15 <black_Nightmare> :p 11:11:31 <Celestar> at least the game-universe 11:12:33 <Brianetta> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=400058&highlight=dvt#400058 11:13:16 <Celestar> Brianetta: yes I'm thinking about "no train reversing" .. like post-0.6.0 11:13:43 <Celestar> along with some realistic depots 11:13:53 <Brianetta> Celestar: Your ideas are a Good Thing 11:14:02 <Brianetta> (the URL was for black_Nightmare who didn't know what a DVT was) 11:14:09 <Celestar> what IS a DVT? 11:14:18 <Darkvater> DarkVaTer? 11:14:19 <Brianetta> Read that post 11:14:37 <Celestar> later on. 11:14:41 <Celestar> I'm busy debugging 11:15:07 <Celestar> and trying to find out whether the AI is using crossing bridges 11:16:13 <Brianetta> OK I'll sum up 11:16:22 <Brianetta> A DVT is a Driving Van Trailer 11:16:29 <Brianetta> It's a normal coach or van 11:16:33 <Brianetta> but with a driver's cab 11:16:33 <Celestar> ah 11:16:49 <Brianetta> It's basically a remote control unit for the loco at the other end 11:16:53 <peter1138> (and no way of telling such within ottd) 11:16:56 <Celestar> but it requires a remote-controllable engine. 11:17:00 <Brianetta> It does 11:17:06 <Celestar> like: no steamer (= 11:17:12 <Brianetta> The Class 91 (IC-225) is such a lcoo 11:17:16 <Brianetta> Celestar: no! 11:17:34 <Brianetta> The forthcoming 5AT (www.5at.co.uk) will be DVT capable 11:17:50 <Brianetta> Not for running at speed, but for backing out of stations to a Y 11:17:56 <Celestar> true. 11:18:16 <Brianetta> It can only do 45mph backwards, as a tender enging 11:18:24 <Celestar> what about that 5AT? 11:18:59 <Brianetta> expand 11:19:13 <Celestar> will it be built? 11:19:23 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:21:26 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@82-37-135-45.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:21:26 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.146.181] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 11:23:10 <Qball> most emu's here can run both directions, and they all have remote control option. 11:23:18 <Qball> and same for dmu's 11:23:48 <Qball> it's fun to see sometimes, when they are moving some wagons, they machinest sits with a portable remote on the last wagon. 11:24:09 <Qball> (there not allowed to control them from the ground anymore after some accidents) 11:24:33 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:25:03 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:25:31 <Celestar> me->food(); 11:27:44 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4642 /trunk/ (5 files): - Codechange: reorganise airport.h and airport_movement.h to avoid having 8 copies of the airport FTAs, and make the enums used available elsewhere. 11:30:38 <Brianetta> ok 11:30:44 <black_Nightmare> mind pm or rather like it here brianetta? 11:30:53 <Brianetta> Don't mind - here's fine 11:30:59 <Brianetta> It's on topic (: 11:31:02 <black_Nightmare> ok.... 11:31:47 <Brianetta> Celestar: Wardale are looking for buyers, but yes, it's a going concern 11:32:00 <black_Nightmare> take the left kenford station and destory the road facing north end...then add a 1x1 platform to there (touches the sawmill) then..with that finished..delete the dock and delete the two parallel roads and add a 4th platform right there....its a thought 11:32:21 <Brianetta> Can't 11:32:22 <black_Nightmare> 4th platform can be only 4 tiles long 11:32:24 <Brianetta> Bridge is in the wayt 11:32:27 <Brianetta> I did consider it (: 11:32:31 <black_Nightmare> delete it? :p 11:32:38 <black_Nightmare> its not even connecting anywhere so don't need that bridge 11:32:44 <Brianetta> Oh, I can blow it up (: 11:32:48 <Brianetta> I thought that was off 11:32:52 <black_Nightmare> damn city lol 11:33:43 <black_Nightmare> there you go :-D 11:33:55 <Brianetta> Odd 11:34:02 <Brianetta> Normally I have extra dynamit off 11:34:20 <Brianetta> so there was a road and a bridge there I shouldn't have been able to demolish 11:34:30 <Brianetta> Now I have no depot 11:35:20 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4643 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: Add support for ttdp aircraft states. This involves mapping from our own state. (heavily based on mart3p's code) 11:35:45 <black_Nightmare> brianetta....what you doing with the signs? 11:36:01 <black_Nightmare> (and btw..put a depot at wrunton station perhaps 11:47:47 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 11:51:49 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:52:39 <Tron> + if ((i = SeedModChance(0, 5, seed)) == 0) { 11:52:51 <Tron> Celestar: no assignments in ifs if it's not necessary 11:54:38 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 11:56:05 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-197-224.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 11:57:07 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 11:58:11 <ln-> you're the one who decides? 11:59:24 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...can I ask a quick favour? (just a tiny bit landscaping thats all) 12:00:17 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4644 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: support for variable 0x44, aircraft information. (mart3p) 12:04:41 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 12:05:01 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...if you don't mind it I was wondering if you could flatten the terrian around my sign (together with lowering the tracks there) and take your road bridge out so I could try make a long single-track bridge across to have a third track reach the powerplant on my own? 12:05:26 <black_Nightmare> you can leave your depot 12:05:33 <black_Nightmare> I just need your junction flattened then I can bridge 12:07:47 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4645 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: pretend to be the last alpha version of TTDPatch in our version value. 12:11:26 * peter1138 -> out 12:11:37 <peter1138> backness later 12:15:31 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@82-37-135-45.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:17:15 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7644D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:39 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 12:37:36 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4646 /branch/yapf/disaster_cmd.c: [YAPF] Cleanup: use DoCommand() instead of DoClearSquare() - does the same as r4635, but much better way (thanks Tron) 12:38:50 <Celestar> Tron: what are you talking about? where's that line from? 12:40:28 <Celestar> oh 12:40:29 <Celestar> I see. 12:40:37 <Celestar> sworry. 12:41:06 * vondel notices more svn commits today, holiday-effect :) 12:41:12 <Celestar> hehe ^^ 12:41:25 <KUDr> yes 12:43:52 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 12:44:00 <Celestar> hey hey Belugas (= 12:44:40 <Belugas> Hello All! 12:44:49 <KUDr> hello 12:45:35 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:46:08 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:46:28 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:46:49 <XeryusTC> hi Belugas 12:47:39 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 12:52:55 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4647 /branch/yapf/disaster_cmd.c: [YAPF] Cleanup: removed forgotten include of yapf.h 12:53:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:54:08 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040505]"] 12:55:09 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-82-41.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 12:56:29 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B76EF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:57:17 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:57:43 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.105.34] has joined #openttd 12:59:58 <XeryusTC> is it *somehow* possible to get the tgp patch working with the yapf branch? 13:00:27 <KUDr> what is tgp? 13:00:37 <XeryusTC> terragenesis perlin 13:00:43 <KUDr> then no problem 13:01:30 <XeryusTC> turtoise svn had problems with lines that were different then those specified in the patch 13:02:01 <KUDr> what rev. is that patch against? 13:02:19 <XeryusTC> 4601, but i tried to patch it against that yapf rev too 13:02:47 <KUDr> and what can be different in YAPF? 13:04:00 <XeryusTC> dunno :P 13:04:27 <KUDr> there is that diff? I can try it 13:05:29 <KUDr> ohh s/there/where 13:05:31 <XeryusTC> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=435759#435759 <- the snow in temperate is also included 13:06:16 <KUDr> TGP+snow_r4601.patch? 13:06:34 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:06:35 <XeryusTC> yes 13:09:31 <KUDr> yes, there are some conflicts - will look at it 13:11:17 <UnderBuilder> What is better, C or C++? I am thinking on a mini-game for introducing in C/C++ 13:11:19 <XeryusTC> ok :) 13:11:20 <KUDr> hmm: The patch seems outdated! The file line 13:11:20 <KUDr> bool quick_return = false; 13:11:20 <KUDr> and the patchline 13:11:20 <KUDr> if (GetTropicZone(tile) == TROPICZONE_DESERT) { 13:11:20 <KUDr> do not match! 13:11:37 <XeryusTC> KUDr: you'll get alot of those :P 13:11:51 <KUDr> UnderBuilder: then start with C 13:11:58 <KUDr> XeryusTC: yes i did 13:12:12 <KUDr> dunno why 13:12:28 <KUDr> i didn't touch those files 13:12:37 <KUDr> must ask RichK 13:12:54 <UnderBuilder> mmm.... all the guides that I find are for C++, I will try searching again in google 13:12:56 <XeryusTC> ok 13:12:58 <KUDr> sorry i can't serve you now 13:13:30 <KUDr> UnderBuilder: C is base, later you can look at C++ 13:13:32 <XeryusTC> UnderBuilder: C++ supports everything that C supports, and some more 13:14:00 <KUDr> but C++ alone could be a bit confusing 13:17:20 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:20:05 <Darkvater> Celestar: I think you broke HQ-enlargement 13:20:33 <Darkvater> Celestar: unmovable_map.h. That 'if (size <= _m[t].m5 - UNMOVABLE_HQ_NORTH) return;' should be 'size*4' imho 13:21:02 <Darkvater> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4196 < changeset 13:21:32 <Darkvater> I was playing and playing and my HQ just wouldn't upgrade :P 13:23:49 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:24:40 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4648 /trunk/unmovable_map.h: - Fix (r4196): Company HQ's were not upgraded during the monthly loops. 13:24:53 <Darkvater> weird nobody noticed this in almost 500 revisions 13:25:37 <vondel> who really cares about HQ's 13:25:43 * Darkvater 13:26:03 <vondel> we're all megalomaniacs, so the HQ is always at the highest state 13:26:36 <Darkvater> hmm yes but without this fix it was always this pathetic little shed if you started a new game 13:27:19 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:27:53 <vondel> strange, i remember a game, less than 500 revs ago, where i had a full size HQ 13:28:43 <Darkvater> trust me 13:34:05 <UnderBuilder> well, I find a C guide but... what compiler-'source editor' (I don't know the exact word) is recommended? 13:34:43 <glx> UnderBuilder: which OS? 13:36:30 <ln-> wtf is "compiler-'source editor'"? 13:36:40 <UnderBuilder> Windows 13:36:50 <UnderBuilder> I don't know the exact word 13:37:24 <glx> compiler-'source editor' looks like IDE for me :) 13:38:26 <UnderBuilder> I mean the program where you make changes to the sourcecodes, like Visual C++ 13:38:50 <glx> yes it's called IDE 13:39:37 <glx> you can edit the sourcecode with any text editor 13:44:24 <ln-> UnderBuilder: and do try to realize that the compiler and the editor are two separate things, but an IDE comfortably integrates them (that's IDE for Integrated Development Environment). 13:47:05 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:47:49 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-196-17.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:47:53 <Sacro> afternoon all 13:48:00 <UnderBuilder> hlo 13:48:19 <XeryusTC> hi Sacro 13:48:29 <Sacro> have i missed anything today? 13:49:45 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 13:55:46 *** Moriarty [i=user@cpc2-cdif3-0-0-cust686.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:03 <Moriarty> It looks like the website is having some issues 13:56:21 <Moriarty> (I can't get to either the nightly or wiki subdomain on openttd.org) 13:57:01 <Moriarty> 106 users online and no-one in? Hmmm 13:57:16 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-224-160.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:33 <Sacro> was dead yesterday too 13:59:44 <Sacro> the *.openttd.org domain needs restarting 13:59:54 <hylje> dns is just fubar? 14:00:00 <Moriarty> Well I did just manage to download the nightly (took ages to initialise), but the web-pages are definately dead 14:00:17 <Moriarty> yes just the DNS, as I could successfully ping it (nightly.openttd.org) 14:01:39 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549474D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:09 <Brianetta> My nightly server has six clients connected (: 14:07:31 *** kujeger [n=kujeger@host-81-191-145-149.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 14:11:45 <Moriarty> Hmm, ok the nightly didn't download (the finished file is only 1k!?) 14:12:26 <Moriarty> what's the URL of the nightlies (without using the nightly Subdomain) 14:12:48 <Moriarty> http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php - works but the links all point to nightly.ottd 14:13:40 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:14:38 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:18:16 <Celestar> IDE makes me shudder 14:18:50 <Celestar> Moriarty: the wiki/nightly/bugs server is dead. 14:18:53 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181071107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:18:57 <Celestar> bbl 14:19:07 <peter1138> vim == best ide ;) 14:19:16 * Celestar agrees with peter1138 14:19:58 <Celestar> ok .. bbl really 14:20:12 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:21:49 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@82-37-135-45.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:23:20 *** amazon10x [n=bleh@gmp-inet36-7-67.gmpexpress.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:34 *** amazon10x [n=bleh@gmp-inet36-7-67.gmpexpress.net] has left #openttd [] 14:23:39 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:29:53 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181066168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:30:28 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4649 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: limit helicopter rotor animation frames to the number of sprites in the set. 14:39:40 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:43:57 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@82-37-135-45.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:46:48 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 14:47:12 <MeusH> hey 14:49:01 *** _Jango_ [n=kvirc@puritan.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:49:09 <Celestar> hey MeusH , _Jango_ :) 14:50:11 <_Jango_> hello :) 14:50:21 <_Jango_> anything interesting happening? 14:50:26 <Celestar> _Jango_: kinda 14:51:12 <_Jango_> what's that then? 14:52:07 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge2.png 14:52:25 <_Jango_> ah :) 14:52:26 *** Moriarty [i=user@cpc2-cdif3-0-0-cust686.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has left #openttd [] 14:52:27 <_Jango_> buggy? 14:52:34 <Celestar> not much 14:53:00 <Celestar> crossing tunnels under crossing bridges seem to act up a little with trains wormholing all over the place. 14:53:03 <_Jango_> looks good 14:53:04 <glx> NPF can manage that? 14:53:09 <Celestar> and NTP is not yet finished. 14:53:18 <Celestar> glx: partially, I'm just beefing it up. 14:53:54 <_Jango_> what's the status with the new map array? has it been cancelled again? 14:54:10 <Celestar> that little game shown in the screeny works flawlessly. 14:54:29 <Celestar> _Jango_: the "new map array" is an evolutionary process, not revolutionary 14:54:38 <Celestar> and parts of it is what you can see there. 14:55:00 <glx> tunnel/bridge separation :) 14:55:33 <_Jango_> ok, sure 14:55:50 <peter1138> Celestar: can you have parallel bridges? 14:56:19 <Darkvater> is it just me or are the animated radars on the airports not animated after a while in trunk/? 14:57:00 <MeusH> Darkvater: these do not rotate for a long time 14:57:05 <Darkvater> hmm 14:57:11 <MeusH> the windsock is animated, however 14:57:11 <Darkvater> who broke'em? 14:57:26 <peter1138> rotates for me 14:57:27 * MeusH repeats the question and moves back 14:57:31 <Darkvater> no the radar is turning I"ve seen it in my game just.....but it just stops after a while 14:57:51 <peter1138> i have noticed animations stop before 14:58:10 <Darkvater> and some don't even want to start rotating 14:58:22 <peter1138> happens with industries too 14:58:52 <Darkvater> hmm someone must've broken them with all these accessors because it works just fine in 0.4.7 14:58:53 <Celestar> I have some major suckage going on with tunnel.s 14:58:56 <Celestar> peter1138: nope. 14:59:00 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 14:59:39 <peter1138> Darkvater: i noticed it sometimes way before 0.4.5 14:59:58 <Celestar> peter1138: this is as crazy as it gets: http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge3.png 15:00:33 <Darkvater> hmm 15:00:36 <Celestar> ERR 15:00:39 <Celestar> stupid transparency 15:00:55 <Darkvater> hmm it could also be of course that if there are too many animated tiles 15:01:00 <Darkvater> it just doesn't add new ones 15:01:07 <_Jango_> i do think that the high bridges patch coupled with being able to build on uneven surfaces is fantastic 15:01:08 <peter1138> too many? 15:01:11 <_Jango_> i've been using it a lot 15:01:12 <peter1138> hmm 15:01:13 <MeusH> Hey, is building on slope data saved somewhere in the array or _height array? 15:01:17 <peter1138> i didn't know there was a limit 15:01:19 <Darkvater> that could be it because a new game works just perfectly (256 map) 15:01:23 <MeusH> "Five attributes hold the information about a tile. These attributes are referred to as "type_height", "m1", "m2", "m3", "m4" and "m5". The most important value is the class of a tile, stored in the upper 4 bits of the type_height array." 15:01:32 <Celestar> reload 15:01:44 <Celestar> MeusH: nope, it is computed on the fly. 15:01:44 <Darkvater> peter1138: TileIndex _animated_tile_list[256]; 15:01:52 <Celestar> that is NOT a lot. 15:02:05 <MeusH> oh, it grabs height of corners of surrounding tiles? 15:02:09 <Celestar> considering each lift is an animated tile... 15:02:11 <Celestar> MeusH: yeah. 15:02:19 <MeusH> okay 15:02:20 <Darkvater> oh yeah that's it :(. And when the list is full no more is added :s 15:02:25 <peter1138> we want to change that 15:02:32 <peter1138> does it remove items from the list? 15:02:37 <Darkvater> yes 15:02:40 <hylje> :( 15:02:43 <Celestar> one might think a modern computer can handle more than those ... 15:02:49 <Darkvater> texteff.c:320 and 336 15:02:49 <MeusH> Celestar: so is it possible to make a build on slope the other way? Not a ramp, but excavation in the slope? 15:02:55 <peter1138> texteff !? 15:03:04 <Darkvater> AddAnimatedTile, DeleteAnimatedTile 15:03:11 <MeusH> Celestar: Possible* - with the current array 15:03:22 <Celestar> MeusH: I have thought of it already, it is POSSIBLE. 15:03:34 <Celestar> but not simple (= 15:03:38 <Darkvater> Celestar: that SS..OMG 15:03:48 <Darkvater> is that you or AI? 15:03:51 <Celestar> me :) 15:03:56 <MeusH> \o/ Celestar 15:04:03 <Celestar> AI doesn't use high bridges it seems. 15:04:34 <Celestar> Darkvater: http://www.fvfischer.de/fun_ai/0.png , 1-4.png <= this is the current AI 15:04:48 <Darkvater> yeah seen those :) 15:04:51 <Celestar> ^^ 15:05:13 <Celestar> Darkvater: funny thing is. bridges work, tunnels under bridges are causing the trouble 15:05:22 <Celestar> but I'm positive I'll solve that problem soon 15:05:32 <Darkvater> tunnels under bridges? 15:05:41 <Darkvater> that is very strange. If both are teleports 15:05:51 <Darkvater> there should be no conflict whatsoever one would say 15:05:58 <hylje> ::D 15:06:19 <Celestar> all the bugs I have found until now are rather minor problems, a bit here a bit there. 15:06:31 <Celestar> plus: the entire tunnel and bridge code is already much cleaner (= 15:06:48 <Belugas> 256 animated tiles :( 15:07:09 <peter1138> and using 0 instead of INVALID_TILE 15:07:21 <Darkvater> that absolutely sucks with bigger maps :) 15:07:47 <Belugas> MAX_ANIM_TILE * map_size ? 15:07:57 <Belugas> made-up names... 15:08:17 <Belugas> why a limit ? 15:08:29 <Celestar> make an animated tile pool \o/ 15:08:45 <Belugas> heheheh 15:08:51 <Belugas> So many projects :D 15:08:58 <peter1138> i've got non-animating tiles on my 128x128 map 15:09:14 <peter1138> is it possible that some where is not deleting one when it should? 15:09:21 <Celestar> naaahh 15:09:27 <Celestar> not another animated tile leak. 15:09:44 <Celestar> maybe I f*cked up lifts? 15:10:09 <Celestar> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1038603/L/ <= wish my mom could park a car that precisely 15:10:20 <Belugas> maybe I did it on industry? 15:10:48 <Belugas> I don't think so... not gone far enough 15:10:50 <Darkvater> donnu... a bit hard to check 15:10:59 <Belugas> why ;) 15:11:04 <MeusH> Celestar: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6558186083786660765 :D 15:12:00 <Darkvater> Belugas: because animation addition and removal are dictated by game logic 15:12:13 <Celestar> MeusH: yeah, but that thing is not 71 meters long 15:12:24 <Celestar> and has 64 meters wingspan 15:12:52 <Celestar> LAX boards 747s with single airbridge :S 15:12:54 <Darkvater> hmm, bbl 15:13:01 <Celestar> me, too 15:15:15 <_Jango_> Celestar: which airport is that? 15:15:33 <_Jango_> the cars look like they're driving on the left 15:15:58 <_Jango_> ah 15:16:01 <_Jango_> LAX 15:16:01 <_Jango_> you did say 15:21:26 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 15:21:34 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D564.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:23:50 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:39 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 15:30:34 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D564.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 15:30:51 <Belugas> _animated_tile_list is saved in savegame 15:32:14 <Belugas> strange... there must be a reason for that 15:32:32 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:33:25 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:35:25 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F284.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:36:10 <MeusH> D A M N 15:36:22 <MeusH> I just burnt my DVD recorder 15:36:27 <MeusH> it stinks 15:36:38 <MeusH> my cds stink with burnt plastic 15:37:10 <_Jango_> how? 15:37:15 <MeusH> archivising CDs... four hours of constant reading 15:37:16 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:37:29 <MeusH> at least I don't have to archivise CDs and I've got some free time 15:37:47 <MeusH> and hopefully OpenTTD doesn't require compact disc reader :D 15:38:55 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:40:01 <C-Otto> give me a money cheat please 15:40:18 <MeusH> Ctrl+Alt+C 15:40:19 <C-Otto> found it. 15:40:20 <C-Otto> thanks 15:40:30 <wonea> when 4.8 due out? 15:40:36 <wonea> 0.4.8 15:42:02 <C-Otto> okay, 170x10^6 euro for flattening the whole land 15:43:23 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 15:44:43 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 15:47:51 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3FBC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:48:25 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-196-17.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:49:34 <Born_Acorn> http://www.fvfischer.de/xbridge3.png <- wow. Is that for real? 15:49:51 <wonea> thats amazing 15:49:59 <wonea> I want those bridges! 15:50:56 <MeusH> Born_Acorn: yes 15:51:02 <MeusH> and it works :) 15:51:10 <Born_Acorn> shocking stuff. 15:51:15 <MeusH> I'd like to see non-transparent view, too 15:51:19 <Born_Acorn> Is it the one in that branch> 15:51:31 <MeusH> nvm that 15:52:13 <Born_Acorn> so its not? 15:54:55 *** iridium is now known as iridium`nh 15:57:19 <KUDr> XeryusTC: here is your tgpsnow_r4647.patch: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=437186#437186 15:57:59 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 15:58:51 <blathijs> Anybody wanna test a patch? 15:59:06 <blathijs> I've got a working implementation of the new memory pools 15:59:07 <blathijs> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/13 16:00:03 <blathijs> Celestar: Darkvater: Tron: Bjarni: I've got a full diff of my memory pools online which requires testing and comments 16:00:53 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 16:05:12 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:05:17 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 16:06:14 <Darkvater> back :) 16:06:22 <Darkvater> 17:30 < Belugas> _animated_tile_list is saved in savegame < sync, desync 16:06:28 <Darkvater> Celestar: ping 16:07:01 <Darkvater> blathijs: bugs/wiki/nightly is doen :( 16:07:04 <Darkvater> down even 16:07:56 <MeusH> blathijs: revision 313? 16:08:07 <MeusH> Darkvater: it isn't 16:08:10 <MeusH> MiHaMiX fixed it 16:08:27 <Tron> <Darkvater> blathijs: bugs/wiki/nightly is doen :( <-- the former isn't 16:08:34 <Darkvater> hmm weird ok 16:08:38 <Belugas> Right... synch, desynch.. I alwasy think as a single user :( Thanks Darkvater 16:08:41 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 16:09:36 <Darkvater> ugh, that patch is HUGE 16:10:36 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 16:11:53 *** Born-Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8FEFFE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:41 <Darkvater> blathijs: can you like present a clean version? It is a big mess 16:13:09 <Darkvater> for example changes like s/IsVehicleIndex/IsValidVehicleID/ 16:13:14 <Darkvater> are totally irrelevant 16:13:52 <MeusH> Darkvater: why do you think these are wrong? 16:13:54 <Darkvater> probably _total_industries replaced by GetNumIndustriesUsed is as well since it's just encapsulation 16:14:07 <Darkvater> MeusH: because it makes the diff impossibly huge to look through 16:14:21 <peter1138> irrelevant != wrong 16:14:27 <blathijs> Darkvater: the thing is, I've unified the pools 16:14:42 <blathijs> so there are functions IsValid<something>ID now 16:14:52 <peter1138> hmm 16:14:57 <blathijs> but the originial functions had differing names I think 16:15:01 <MiHaMiX> evening boys 16:15:03 <peter1138> automatically generated? 16:15:09 <MeusH> hey MiHaMiX! 16:15:30 <peter1138> then pre-stages could be renaming one of those at a time, or simething 16:15:35 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: hi 16:15:42 <MeusH> I tink blathijs' "IsValid*ID" is better than the current function 16:16:12 <Darkvater> it is irrelevant 16:16:12 <Darkvater> askldjfa 16:16:22 <Darkvater> sdf 16:16:22 <Darkvater> sdasdf 16:16:25 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: ? 16:16:34 <Darkvater> ok, jmajro lag 16:16:40 <MiHaMiX> ahh 16:16:46 *** Darkvate1 [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:16:53 <Darkvate1> as I was saying 16:16:55 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: I believed you're drunk :D 16:16:59 <blathijs> Darkvater: Irrelevant, perhaps, but I can't give you a version without those changes 16:17:14 <blathijs> Darkvater: The old pools had functions like IsVehicleIndex manually defined 16:17:30 <blathijs> so they differ between pools 16:17:32 <Darkvate1> it is irrelevant whether the names are better or worse, the fact is that it makes the diff impossible to check and view through 16:17:33 <Darkvate1> I don't even want to think about getting that committed in 1 chunk 16:17:39 <blathijs> my new pool defines these automatically 16:18:32 <blathijs> so I can't change the name for specific pools, only for all pools 16:18:44 <Darkvate1> you can change the function IsVehicleIndex to return the same thing as IsValidVehicleID or something as a first step 16:19:25 <blathijs> hmm 16:19:27 <blathijs> I could, yes 16:19:32 <peter1138> perl -pi -e 's/IsVehicleIndex/IsValidVehicleID/g' *.[ch] 16:19:36 <peter1138> (lazy) 16:20:23 <Darkvate1> hmm CmdBuildAircraft(). I think the current behaviour is better 16:20:30 <Darkvate1> call the same function which returns false if full 16:20:41 <Darkvate1> right now two different things are done which is confusing 16:20:58 <blathijs> Darkvater: k, I will look at reducing the size of the patch (It did turn out a lot bigger than I anticipated, due to the loose interface of the old pools) 16:21:01 <blathijs> Darkvater: lemme see 16:21:19 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8FEFFE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:21:41 <blathijs> Darkvater: problem with that is that you need to de-allocate them if DC_EXEC is not set 16:21:53 <Darkvate1> or IsValidStation(st) vs st != NULL ? < changed behaviour? 16:22:11 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:22:23 <Darkvate1> blathijs: hmm. how ugly is executing allocatevehs in testmode only? 16:22:34 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-196-17.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:22:35 <Sacro> back all 16:22:48 <blathijs> Darkvate1: I think allocating and de-allocating is pretyy ugly to see if the pool is not full 16:23:05 <MeusH> hey Sacro 16:23:06 <Darkvate1> " allocatevehs in testmode only" 16:23:24 <Darkvate1> testmode of course doesn't alloc ;) 16:23:34 <blathijs> you mean, an extra argument to AllocateVehicle or something? 16:23:59 <Darkvate1> yes. but that might be ugly as well and/or confusing in other places 16:24:21 <blathijs> I think AllocateVehicle should do just that 16:24:23 <Darkvate1> what does the diff actually do? :) 16:24:33 <blathijs> Darkvate1: Improve the interface of the memory pool 16:24:37 <blathijs> no functional changes 16:24:38 <Darkvate1> how? 16:25:01 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:25:04 <blathijs> by, for example, explicitely de-allocating memory, instead of implicitely 16:25:04 <Darkvate1> the bugreport doesn't say too much 16:25:15 <Tron> +#define MAX_VALUE(type) ((((uint64)1) << sizeof(type) * CHAR_BIT) - 1) 16:25:44 <Tron> #define MAX_VALUE(type) ((type)~(type)0) 16:25:45 <blathijs> also, it greatly improves the performance of pools, since allocating is now O(1) instead of O(n0 16:26:18 <Sacro> how do i find out who owns/runs a server? 16:26:20 <Darkvate1> ah 16:26:34 <blathijs> Tron: Hmm, seems nicer :-) 16:26:34 <Darkvate1> I suppose the FOR_ALL macros only return valid entries? 16:26:38 <blathijs> yes 16:26:47 <Darkvate1> Tron vs blathijs 1 - 0 :P 16:27:01 <blathijs> since the pool now knows what entries are valid and what are not 16:27:03 <Sacro> battle to the death? 16:27:15 * blathijs is off for 20 minutes or so, gotta buy some breakfast before stores close :-) 16:27:22 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:27:52 <blathijs> Do continue flinging comments at my head please ;-p 16:28:54 <Darkvate1> I do can see certain steps in this diff. For example leave all IsValidObject() there but make them return true only; then remove the functions 16:28:57 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:29:44 * Darkvate1 wonders where the actual pool diff is. Only at 10% now 16:29:48 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2454.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 16:30:38 <Darkvate1> diff is inconsistent. 16:30:40 <Darkvate1> -fr->from = from = GetTown(RandomRange(_total_towns)); 16:30:40 <Darkvate1> fr->from = from = GetRandomTown(); 16:30:48 <Darkvate1> but +fr->from = i = GetIndustry(RandomRange(GetNumIndustries())); 16:30:59 <Darkvate1> No GetRandomIndustry() ? :) 16:31:35 <Darkvate1> economy.c:940? if (t->xy == 0 || t->population < 900) <-- t->xy should be removed I suppose 16:31:49 <Darkvate1> same for the industry thing a few lines below 16:32:25 <MeusH> brb 16:32:26 <Darkvate1> + EngineRenew* er = (EngineRenew*)drop; 16:32:26 <Darkvate1> + ZERO_AND_INDEX(EngineRenew, er) 16:32:33 <Darkvate1> don't get this. Just cast drop there? 16:33:21 <Darkvate1> - ss = GetSign(cmp1); 16:33:22 <Darkvate1> + ss = GetSignStruct(cmp1); 16:33:25 <Darkvate1> ?? wth 16:33:38 <Darkvate1> we have GetStationStruct() next? 16:34:23 <Darkvate1> actually...I was thinkng about starting backporting for 0.4.8 16:34:55 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 16:36:05 <Darkvate1> I think multstop is backportable without a savegame bump 16:37:06 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:37:08 <Darkvate1> also as a first step you can leave all the object->xy in. It is a noop anyways since it won't be zero, but greatly cuts down on diff size 16:37:32 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:37:52 <Darkvate1> blathijs: are you going the Tron way or not? Inconsistent usage of 'Type *var' and 'Type* var' 16:38:30 <Darkvate1> - RunVehicleDayProc(_date_fract); 16:38:31 <Darkvate1> + RunVehicleDayProc(); 16:38:39 <Darkvate1> don't know what this has to do with mempools 16:39:04 <Darkvate1> +SPRITE_GROUP_PUDDLE_SIZE = 128 < eh? 16:39:23 <hylje> where did you lose your "r" 16:40:13 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-200-84.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:35 <Darkvate1> -static bool LoadOldOrder(LoadgameState *ls, int num) 16:41:35 <Darkvate1> +static bool LoadOldOrder(LoadgameState *ls, int index) 16:41:35 <Darkvate1> also these codechanges can be left out 16:41:35 <Darkvate1> hylje: eh? 16:42:01 <blathijs> Darkvate1: the way to iterate the vehicles daily is dependent on the pool implementation 16:42:02 <Darkvater> - Order *order; 16:42:04 <Darkvater> + ZERO_AND_INDEX(Order, drop); 16:42:07 <Darkvater> and some 16:42:10 <Darkvate1> times you don't cast 16:43:01 <blathijs> I have this nasty tendency to make stuff more consistent (as with the s/num/index) while I go along... 16:43:07 <Darkvate1> fuck this diff's huge 16:43:07 <Darkvate1> 5K 16:43:15 <blathijs> what do you mean with those ZERO_AND_INDEX? 16:43:20 <MeusH> hylje: <@MiHaMiX> Darkvater: I believed you're drunk :D 16:43:35 <Darkvate1> yes me as well...but I have seperate it out later..bah much work 16:44:00 <Darkvate1> blathijs: for the industry above if you read back, you cast drop to EngineRenew* 16:44:04 <Darkvate1> here you leave it at void8 16:45:19 <Darkvate1> I hope you don't mind that I won't give style-issues/advice at this stage :) 16:45:52 <blathijs> Darkvate1: probably because I copypasted that engine renew function from somewhere else, where something was done apart from zeroandindex 16:45:58 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 16:46:14 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:46:21 <blathijs> (/me is off for 5 more minutes to eat the dessert he's just bought) 16:46:24 <Darkvate1> yes, something was done, but you added both the cast and zero_ yourself :) 16:46:55 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:47:26 <blathijs> Darkvate1: I mean I copied InitializeEngineRenew from InitializeVehicle I think 16:47:32 <blathijs> Darkvate1: and the cast is needed there 16:48:01 <blathijs> (not for the ZERO_AND_INDEX, but for the code below in the InitializeVehicle function) 16:48:05 <blathijs> brb 16:48:21 <Darkvate1> go eat you 16:48:50 *** Ramesess1 [i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 16:48:58 <Ramesess1> wenassss 16:49:26 <Ramesess1> hay alguien?? 16:50:32 <Darkvate1> e 16:50:33 <Darkvate1> n 16:50:33 <Darkvate1> g 16:50:34 <Darkvate1> l 16:50:35 <Darkvate1> i 16:50:37 <Darkvate1> s 16:50:40 <Darkvate1> h 16:50:44 <Darkvater> . 16:50:52 <Ramesess1> e 16:50:52 <Ramesess1> s 16:50:53 <Ramesess1> p 16:50:55 <Ramesess1> a 16:50:56 <Ramesess1> n 16:50:57 <Ramesess1> i 16:50:58 <Ramesess1> s 16:51:01 <Ramesess1> ?? 16:51:07 <Ramesess1> jejejej 16:51:10 <Ramesess1> X-DD 16:52:04 <MeusH> heyasss itsaa greeata timee buut yoo can sttoop postin' da spama 16:52:39 <tokai> Ramesess1: isn't it español? 16:52:45 <MeusH> by the way of stupid posts, take a look at reply of http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=435401#435401 16:52:46 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4650 /trunk/ (newgrf.c newgrf.h): - NewGRF: use the correct type for _cur_spriteid 16:53:19 <peter1138> hmm? 16:53:24 <peter1138> oh, it's CIA 16:53:25 * peter1138 hides 16:54:01 <Darkvate1> eh? 16:54:14 <Ramesess1> yo soy españo 16:54:14 <Darkvate1> hmm, serious lag here 16:54:14 <Darkvate1> dammit 16:54:16 <Ramesess1> l 16:54:25 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4651 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: support loading of catenary sprites from NewGRF files. This actually works by replacing our hardcoded sprites. 16:54:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Tron] by ChanServ 16:54:31 *** Ramesess1 was kicked from #openttd by Tron [Tron] 16:54:32 *** Ramesess1 [i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 16:54:39 <Ramesess1> halguien para jugar una pratida 16:54:49 <glx> Ramesess1: speak english 16:54:51 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] by Tron 16:54:51 *** Ramesess1 was kicked from #openttd by Tron [Tron] 16:55:05 *** mode/#openttd [-o Tron] by Tron 16:55:10 <Darkvater> thank you tron 16:55:21 <Darkvater> my serious lag prevented me of even opping 16:55:35 <blathijs> back :-) 17:02:49 <Darkvater> hmm 17:02:54 <Darkvater> router's fucked 17:02:54 <Darkvater> bbl 17:04:37 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 17:05:17 <blathijs> Darkvate1: about the SignStruct thing, the actual struct is called "SignStruct", so the pool functions use that too 17:05:45 <blathijs> 18:39 < Darkvate1> +SPRITE_GROUP_PUDDLE_SIZE = 128 < eh? <-- what about that? 17:06:22 <blathijs> I've fixed the GetRandomX inconsistency you mentioned 17:06:52 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 17:09:51 <blathijs> and the ZERO_AND_INDEX inconsistency 17:13:35 <blathijs> Darkvate1: 5k diff isn't too bad I guess, considering that 1k of it is the new pool's actual implementation ;-) 17:19:01 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:26:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Tron] by ChanServ 17:26:34 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] by Tron 17:26:43 *** mode/#openttd [-o Tron] by Tron 17:30:23 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:35:12 *** Johnny_ [n=chatzill@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:36:02 *** Johnny_ is now known as Serotonin_ 17:36:34 *** _Jango_ [n=kvirc@puritan.demon.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:41:35 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:43:30 *** Ramesess1 [i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 17:43:58 <Ramesess1> hello 17:44:38 <Ramesess1> somebody wants to throw a game? 17:45:24 <Born-Acorn> peter1138, yay! Catenary! 17:45:34 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-169-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:47 <Ramesess1> there is somebody? 17:58:20 <hylje> no not really 17:59:02 <Ramesess1> we played ? 17:59:19 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:19 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 18:00:25 <Sacro> what kinda game you after? 18:00:35 *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH 18:01:21 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 18:03:28 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-224-160.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07:26 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:08:11 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 18:09:48 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:10:12 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:27 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:15:43 *** Ramesess1 [i=yo_lesta@62-14-113-126.inversas.jazztel.es] has quit [" MESIAS 7.3 by: Lois & JAP- http://www.lois.infierno.org"] 18:17:33 * Brianetta makes screenshots 18:17:44 <peter1138> of? 18:18:01 <Brianetta> Kenford 18:18:04 <Brianetta> Wonderful town 18:18:07 <Brianetta> Enjoyable game 18:18:23 <Brianetta> Posts will be made in the pictures thread (: 18:20:56 <Sacro> lol 18:21:49 <peter1138> i've still not played a proper game since elrails was merged 18:23:09 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040505]"] 18:24:06 <Sacro> peter1138: join ussssssss 18:24:07 <Brianetta> peter1138: Feel free to join tonight's game 18:24:17 <peter1138> that would require having it set up 18:24:20 <Tron> does anybody see the logic behind _industry_sound_tile? 18:24:27 <Brianetta> "Nobody is connected to this server at the moment. The game began on 1922-01-01 and is currently at 1922-01-01." 18:24:34 <Belugas> I think I do Tron 18:24:40 <Belugas> it is a bit... strange 18:24:48 <Tron> strange is an understatement 18:24:52 <Belugas> :) 18:25:00 <peter1138> hmm 18:25:07 <Belugas> It looks like a temporary deposit of sound. 18:25:15 <peter1138> it is only set in one place? 18:25:28 <peter1138> where it plays a chainsaw sound 18:25:30 <Belugas> IT is picked up and then goes to another value, like a chain 18:25:33 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 18:25:36 <Tron> oh, i see _how_ it works 18:25:43 <peter1138> hmmm 18:25:45 <Tron> but i don't understand why 18:25:52 <Tron> check _which_ sounds get played 18:26:39 <Tron> (yes, i just triple- and quadruple-checked i translated the sound numbers to the correct enums) 18:26:45 <brygge_2> KUDr: when i try to test the yapf exe i get "invalid version of language pack" 18:27:04 <MeusH> you need YAPF strings 18:27:06 <Belugas> Tron, We're doing it twice then ;) 18:27:26 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:47 <brygge_2> the lang file are not included in the zip 18:27:57 <KUDr> brygge_2: did you unpack also english.lng from the zip file? 18:28:00 <Belugas> I think that it is the way they have found to make sounds "animated" 18:28:05 <KUDr> ahaaaa 18:28:30 <Belugas> The only one that seems to be avoiding the process is the minning machinery's one 18:28:45 <KUDr> brygge_2: it is there 18:28:53 <KUDr> englisg.lng 18:28:56 <brygge_2> yes i unpacked the file 18:28:58 <KUDr> english.lng 18:28:58 <Tron> Belugas: i think you miss my point 18:29:27 <Tron> Belugas: i see how it works, but the sounds which get played are a bit strange 18:29:40 <brygge_2> its there 18:30:44 <KUDr> brygge_2: PM 18:31:36 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:36 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:31:45 <MeusH> brygge_2: make sure both .lng and .exe come from the same .zip 18:31:50 <peter1138> or is it just the names are strange? 18:31:58 <KUDr> brygge_2: are you there? 18:32:00 <Belugas> Tron : and maybe out of range too? Well.. taht is assuming sound.g is completed 18:32:04 <MeusH> to make sure, remove other .lngs and .txts from lang\ 18:32:14 <Tron> Belugas: i wrote sound.h 18:32:16 <brygge_2> ok i will try 18:32:24 <Tron> peter1138: the sounds sound strange 18:32:48 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 18:33:07 <Belugas> OnTick_INdustry : 75, 160 are out of range, so Industry)_Coiund_Ctr have another meaning then SoundFX 18:33:49 <brygge_2> that dosen't help 18:34:13 <Tron> Belugas: what are you talking about? 18:34:50 <Tron> Belugas: _industry_sound_ctr is just a timer 18:35:09 <Belugas> Ok... i'm wrong then :( 18:35:10 <MeusH> hello 18:35:16 <MeusH> please I need help from german speaker 18:36:08 <Tron> ja? 18:36:15 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:20 <MeusH> I need to help my cousin with irregular words 18:36:33 <MeusH> I'm almost sure 18:36:44 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:36:47 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:47 <MeusH> spielen - it is regular, so Ich spiele, Du spielst... ja? 18:37:18 <Tron> er, sie, es spielt, wir spielen, ihr spielt, sie spielen 18:37:33 <MeusH> okay 18:37:35 <MeusH> malen is also regular 18:37:45 <Tron> (spielen - german for "to play") 18:37:53 <Tron> MeusH: PM 18:37:57 <MeusH> ok 18:38:11 <Kuja^> heh :) 18:40:05 <brygge_2> KUDr: i can't get it to work. I downloaded the newest nightly and then i downloaded your zip file. The .lang file is there, but it still says "Invalid Version of language file" 18:40:20 <KUDr> try download new zip 18:40:27 <KUDr> i just updated it 18:41:24 <brygge_2> KUDr: yay! it finnaly works. thanks KUDr 18:41:36 <KUDr> ok 18:42:03 <Sacro> aww, i wanted to learn some more german :( 18:42:48 <LIIT> Sacro: get som Rammstein then ;-) 18:43:51 <LIIT> DU, DU HAST, DU HAST MICH, DU HAST MICH GEFRAGT, DU HAST MICH GEFRAGT UND ICH HAB NICHTS GESAGT 18:44:02 <LIIT> hmm, sorry about the caps, copy-pasted 18:44:45 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:50 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:45:24 <peter1138> hmm, removing a track bit from a tile doesn't mark it brown 18:46:15 <Zr40> that means the construction crew is really careful not touching the grass ;) 18:47:20 <hylje> :> 18:49:06 *** Serotonin_ [n=chatzill@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]"] 18:49:07 *** brygge_2 [n=brygge_2@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 18:49:23 <peter1138> yeah 18:51:36 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:52:15 <hylje> when maglev comes into action 18:53:07 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-22-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:54:36 <YoG> hi, I'd like to crosscompile openttd, can someone give me some directions? 18:57:47 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4652 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: support loading of foundation and canal graphics from NewGRF files via action 5 18:58:01 <Sacro> YoG: from what to what? 18:58:17 <YoG> from pc (Ubuntu) to openzaurus 18:58:21 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:32 <glx> YoG: linux to linux? 18:58:38 <Darkvate1> Belugas: ping 18:58:53 <MeusH> Belugas: ping 18:59:00 <Darkvate1> whohohoo peter1138 :D 18:59:07 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:59:20 <MeusH> peter1138: custom foundation and canals? 18:59:23 <Belugas> pong -> Darkvate1 & MeusH 18:59:32 <YoG> glx: yes 18:59:32 <peter1138> MeusH: ish 18:59:34 <Sacro> YoG: you'll need GCC, glibc, SDL, and binutils for your target CPU 18:59:39 <peter1138> canals actually have another way of being specified 18:59:43 <peter1138> but i'm not bothering with that 19:00:04 <Brianetta> peter1138: Screenshots posted. 19:00:09 <Brianetta> Have fun browsing (: 19:00:36 <YoG> Scro: I know I have GCC (I have an SDK I downloaded), I need to search for the other... 19:00:37 <Darkvate1> hmm 19:00:40 <Darkvate1> hang on a sec Belugas 19:00:46 <Sacro> Brianetta: i notice the older shots of your HQ 19:00:51 <Darkvater> ok 19:00:54 *** Darkvate1 [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["leaving"] 19:01:05 <Darkvater> Belugas: you are working on industries, right? 19:01:14 <Belugas> quite true 19:01:36 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.34.28] has joined #openttd 19:01:51 <Darkvater> Belugas: what I want you to do, which you might already be doing, is to handled everything as a global CargoID and start phasing out the local, climate-specific cargo-ids 19:02:07 <Darkvater> I think that will be a great step towards getting to the goal 19:02:36 <peter1138> heh, i looked at that once 19:03:47 <Brianetta> Sacro: That HQ was moved frequently, in the beginning, to increase passenger levels at certain stations 19:04:08 <Belugas> I think i know what you are talking about Darkvater 19:04:12 <YoG> Sacro: I'm a bit lost here... what exactly am I looking for? I have the gcc, that I know, I have bunch of files named "binutils.mo"... 19:04:16 <peter1138> you think? 19:04:25 <Darkvater> think? 19:04:29 <Darkvater> what is there to think about? :) 19:04:35 <Belugas> I already have some cleaning done 19:04:41 <Belugas> well.. 19:05:02 <Belugas> the cargo spec reuses the same ids 19:05:06 <Belugas> on different climates 19:05:23 <Belugas> which is a bit confusing sometines 19:05:45 <Darkvater> and a deathtrap for world-climate :) 19:05:50 <Belugas> So i think you mean make it so that each cargo is un-climate related 19:06:17 <peter1138> global cargo ids 19:06:17 <Sacro> YoG: im not sure, isnt there a devkit available? 19:06:21 <peter1138> we already have them 19:06:31 <peter1138> the only issue is sometimes even they change 19:06:38 <peter1138> valuables / gold / diamonds 19:06:56 <Belugas> http://openttd.belugasmasques.org/Cargos_cleaning.diff 19:07:01 <peter1138> wheat / grain... 'n summat 19:07:03 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176124236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:07:20 <Sacro> Brianetta: ah right, didnt notice 19:07:21 <Belugas> this is a gathering of most of the cargos stuff i could find 19:07:36 <Belugas> (industry sound stuff's not supposed to be there ;() 19:07:52 <Belugas> after that, i was aiming for unclimate it 19:07:59 <Belugas> IIMSS 19:08:03 <peter1138> CargoTypesValues needs to be rearranged the other way 19:08:05 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:08:06 <Sacro> YoG: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6830035793.html 19:08:08 <YoG> Sacro: I'm trying to find out with the openzaurus (the foreign architecture, or whatever you call that) people... 19:08:09 <peter1138> so it's an array of struct 19:08:12 <Belugas> yes, step 3 19:08:13 <peter1138> not a struct full of arrays 19:08:44 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:08:45 <Belugas> I first wanted to define and gather as much as I can before fiddling the structs 19:09:22 <YoG> Sacro: thats for the "Sharp-rom" I have something for the Open-zaurus... 19:09:36 <Darkvater> shit, got some work to do :( 19:10:55 <YoG> Sacro: ok the guy said that I have glibc and binutils... but no sdl 19:11:08 <Sacro> YoG: well im sure you can compile it 19:12:11 <YoG> Sacro: there is one compiled on the openzaurus feed, but the guy says that I'll need all the deps... 19:12:19 *** Hacky-Kid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:13:12 <Brianetta> Hacky-Kid (: 19:13:20 <YoG> btw, what does afk stands for? 19:13:33 <Qball> away from keybord 19:13:33 <Brianetta> AFK: away from keyboard 19:13:51 * Brianetta has a database of those 19:13:54 <YoG> thanx 19:13:55 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:15:18 <Sacro> YoG: what are the deps? 19:15:45 <YoG> Sacro: eh....... i don't know 19:16:08 <YoG> Sacro: will the compiled sdl lib be enough? 19:16:16 <Sacro> YoG: not sure 19:16:21 <YoG> Sacro: (for cross compiling) 19:16:46 <YoG> Sacro: well, we can try... 19:16:47 <Sacro> YoG: http://zsi2.stonekeep.com/index.php?v=d&a=2127 is worth a look-in 19:17:22 <MeusH> Sacro: was it you who wrote the river generator for OpenTTD? 19:17:35 <XeryusTC> hi all 19:17:46 <Brianetta> Hello, XeryusTC 19:17:53 <XeryusTC> MeusH: if you mean terragenesis, richk wrote that 19:18:07 <Sacro> MeusH: depends whether your looking for someone to praise or bugfix :) 19:18:51 <MeusH> no, I'm just asking who made a river generator 19:18:57 <MeusH> using IIRC sinus function 19:20:15 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:20:29 <MeusH> Because IMO it would be really nice if RichK67's TerraGenesis had rivers 19:20:38 <YoG> Sacro: all these aren't compatible with openzaurus. They compiled openttd 0.4.0 for openzaurus, and I'd like to compile the 0.4.7, and learn in the process something about crosscompiling... 19:20:38 <MeusH> and that river patch was really nice, indeed 19:20:41 <Brianetta> MeusH: re the forum, we don't flame DaleStan for his views or for his advice and suggestions. We're just starting to grow weary of the way he presents them. 19:21:54 <MeusH> Brianetta: yes, and belive me, I'm with you. I just wanted to cool the sitiuation so it won't end with closed threads and warnings 19:22:04 <MeusH> I wrote that his short replies aren't the best, too 19:22:26 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176118010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:24:58 <Sacro> YoG: is it linux or bsd based? 19:25:13 <YoG> Sacro: linux 19:25:37 <YoG> Sacro: I think it forked from debian a while ago... (but not sure) 19:26:22 <peter1138> not really a fork, more a separate work based on it (aiui) 19:26:43 <YoG> peter1138: do you know openzaurus? 19:26:49 <peter1138> no 19:27:24 <peter1138> had ubuntu in my head o_O 19:27:38 <Zr40> ew... 19:27:58 <YoG> you sure ubuntu is not a fork? 19:28:07 <XeryusTC> wasnt ubuntu meant to make linux experts cry? :P 19:29:01 <YoG> Sacro: anyway, how do i start the crosscompilation? I need to change the makefile somehow right? 19:29:02 <Sacro> made me cry 19:29:13 <YoG> why? 19:29:25 <Sacro> YoG: you need to make the binaries, libraries and includes point to the correct files 19:29:36 <Sacro> YoG: and change the $CHOST 19:29:49 <YoG> Sacro: :( 19:30:00 <peter1138> YoG: a fork implies splitting a project and taking separate paths 19:30:14 <YoG> Sacro: I'm not that clever... 19:30:30 <YoG> peter1138: and thats exactly what happend with ubuntu, no? 19:31:04 <Sacro> yeah, ubuntu was a debian fork 19:31:27 <Sacro> YoG: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted 19:33:32 <YoG> Sacro: I have the SDK. the only thing I needed to do is to add the bin directroy to the PATH. 19:33:38 <Sacro> YoG: just an idea, #openzaurus :) 19:33:55 <YoG> Sacro: do you suggest I need to set some more variables 19:34:00 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:34:01 <Sacro> PATH=/path/to/bin:$PATH 19:34:53 <YoG> Sacro: I have the openzaurus channel open... 19:35:06 <YoG> Sacro: PATH was already setup... 19:35:39 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 19:35:41 <YoG> Sacro: can I use the makefile from the openttd source to do the compilation? 19:35:54 *** ector-- is now known as ector 19:36:00 <peter1138> yes, that an configure are set up to do cross compiling easily 19:36:04 <peter1138> *and 19:36:16 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 19:36:51 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:37:13 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 19:37:15 <YoG> peter1138: how? (sob) 19:37:50 <peter1138> pass :) 19:38:23 <Sacro> peter1138: there is no configure 19:38:24 <Bjarni> bbl 19:38:27 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46add.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:38:35 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181071107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 19:38:45 <peter1138> Sacro: there is 19:39:00 <Sacro> ah, Makefile.config 19:39:04 <peter1138> no 19:39:06 <peter1138> -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter peter 6471 2006-04-16 18:10 configure 19:39:10 <peter1138> looks like configure to me 19:39:14 <Sacro> i dont have a ./configure 19:39:25 <YoG> peter1138: me niether 19:39:28 <hylje> there is no configure on the source tarball 19:39:33 <peter1138> hmm 19:39:45 <Sacro> peter1138: custom builds dont count :) 19:39:58 <peter1138> well, trunk has configure 19:40:09 <peter1138> i guess it's too new for 0.4.5 + bugfixes 19:40:36 <Brianetta> There's a configure script? (: 19:40:41 <Rexxie> me and a friend is trying to play OTTD 0.4.7 in MP but he keeps desyncing like a second after he joins 19:41:00 <Rexxie> is there any known problems with huge maps? (2048x2048) 19:41:02 <Jpl> same versions? exactly same grf files? 19:41:06 <YoG> where do i get this configure script? 19:41:17 <peter1138> with huge maps, ensure pause_on_join is enabled in openttd.cfg on the server 19:41:29 <Rexxie> ah ok, I'll try that 19:42:12 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 19:42:19 <Rexxie> which section does that go under? 19:42:31 <Rexxie> ah, network :p 19:42:53 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:49 <Rexxie> yay, thanks :D 19:45:13 <Sacro> gtg, night all 19:45:15 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-196-17.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!"] 19:46:08 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:46:39 <YoG> peter1138: so where ca i get this configure script? 19:47:29 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 19:48:00 <peter1138> Rexxie: did that do the trick? 19:48:31 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 19:51:38 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:52:00 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:14 <Rexxie> sure did, thanks 19:54:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:54:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:56:30 * Brianetta pimps the screenies he posted to the pictures thread 19:56:38 <Brianetta> Go on, look at the pictures of Kenford! 19:58:13 <XeryusTC> Brianetta: i saw them, nice job :) 20:00:03 <Brianetta> (: 20:02:38 <Born-Acorn> peter1138! peter1138! bakers man, bake me newstations as fast as you can! 20:02:57 <peter1138> i've got a problem 20:03:08 <peter1138> well, i don't, but it will... displease others 20:03:27 <peter1138> adding what i need for newstations will use up all the map array bits available to station tiles 20:03:40 <peter1138> so no room for... pbs 20:04:40 * valhallasw pokes Brianetta >:) 20:04:42 <XeryusTC> peter1138: that is a problem :P 20:04:43 * valhallasw takes a look 20:05:11 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4653 /trunk/aircraft_cmd.c: - NewGRF: enable use of custom helicopter rotors in game (but not GUI windows yet) (mart3p) 20:07:03 <peter1138> (yes, no silly helicopter blade on the zeppelin) 20:08:09 <Brianetta> valhallasw: Poke? 20:09:39 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:11:14 <valhallasw> Brianetta: yeah, something like ping :p 20:11:23 * valhallasw is going to watch some tv 20:11:23 * Brianetta is poked 20:11:34 <valhallasw> I like the story-with-pictures though :p 20:11:47 <valhallasw> like a comic from the early days ^_^ 20:12:13 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-200-84.red.bezeqint.net] has left #openttd [] 20:16:16 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:16:31 <Born-Acorn> peter1138! still newstations! 20:17:52 *** Hacky-Kid is now known as HackyKid 20:19:22 <Celestar> hm. 20:19:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:19:39 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:19:42 <Celestar> progress :) 20:20:23 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 20:20:53 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 20:23:24 <Born-Acorn> HackyKid! Tractive Effort! 20:23:34 <Born-Acorn> REMIND. 20:24:16 <Celestar> ok 20:24:19 <Celestar> me->bed(); 20:24:50 <Celestar> peter1138: there will be more bits sooner or later (mextra) 20:24:58 <Celestar> bridges only use 2 of them. 20:25:04 <Celestar> that makes 4 free 20:25:05 <Celestar> night 20:25:07 <hylje> celestar->delay_bed(); 20:25:56 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:40 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:28:32 <HackyKid> hmm, Tractive Effort.... 20:34:10 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2454.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:37:18 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-158-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:37:22 <Sacro> im back, evening all 20:37:53 <MeusH> hey 20:38:16 <XeryusTC> heya Sacro 20:39:00 <Sacro> missed much? 20:39:36 <MeusH> [22:03:43] <peter1138> adding what i need for newstations will use up all the map array bits available to station tiles 20:39:45 <MeusH> [22:25:07] <Celestar> peter1138: there will be more bits sooner or later (mextra) 20:40:04 <MeusH> oh, forgot 20:40:04 <MeusH> [22:03:56] <peter1138> so no room for... pbs 20:40:25 * Sacro screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 20:40:37 <XeryusTC> pbs is for lazy people :P 20:42:51 <Sacro> like foobar it is 20:43:02 <HackyKid> lazy is just another word for efficient :-p 20:43:15 <hylje> foo 20:43:46 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 20:43:48 <HackyKid> maximum results with minimal effort hehe 20:44:21 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-169-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 20:44:41 <XeryusTC> pbs doesnt always have to be efficient 20:45:01 <XeryusTC> i can imagine a lot of my junctions that would be very inefficient if i made it out of 1 pbs block 20:45:11 <HackyKid> of course 20:45:25 <Sacro> a lot of junctions are more efficient with PBS 20:45:30 <HackyKid> pbs isnt a magic "solve all traffic problems" button 20:45:35 <HackyKid> its still needs thought :-p 20:45:57 <XeryusTC> my current big station design is as effient with pbs or with presignals 20:46:08 <XeryusTC> but presignals are a bit more work 20:46:11 <HackyKid> screeny? 20:46:36 <XeryusTC> http://xeryustc.cjb.net/openttd/roro.png 20:47:36 <HackyKid> nice :-) 20:48:29 <XeryusTC> :) 20:48:34 <HackyKid> but i see it splits each entry line into its own 6 platforms, with pbs that would not be needed 20:48:34 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:48:37 <Sacro> cool 20:48:46 <HackyKid> have 12 platforms for the 2 incoming lines 20:49:28 <XeryusTC> i have a simular station that has 2x12 platforms 20:49:40 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:50:19 <XeryusTC> but that has 2 lines that split up into 2 seperate lines that split up into 6 platforms 20:51:15 <KUDr> XeryusTC: it could be much smaller and same efficient with pbs 20:51:28 <KUDr> so better 20:51:57 <XeryusTC> KUDr: i dont think it could be smaller, it was meant to have at least 300 trains running through it, maybe even close to 500 20:52:08 <HackyKid> that soo of course :-p 20:52:38 <XeryusTC> my regular games dont have more then 250 trains because of npf limitations 20:53:05 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 20:53:14 <KUDr> XeryusTC: now you have YAPF 20:53:26 <XeryusTC> KUDr: yes, thats why i want more trains :) 20:53:45 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:54:02 <KUDr> then you'll need pbs to run it efficiently on reasonable space 20:54:07 <XeryusTC> rendering a 1024x768 screen takes 15x as much cpu as yapf does with 239 trains :) 20:54:09 <HackyKid> pbs is nice for stuff like this: http://www.tt-forums.net/files/faburg_transport__3rd_apr_1983_808.png 20:54:41 <XeryusTC> http://xeryustc.cjb.net/openttd/clover.png <- try making that one pbs block :P 20:54:53 <XeryusTC> that would be really stupid :P 20:55:27 <MeusH> looks like there is no need for PBS in that junction 20:55:34 <XeryusTC> HackyKid: that is more a case of bad design than pbs efficiency :) 20:55:37 <KUDr> yes 20:55:55 <XeryusTC> MeusH: there isnt any need of pbs, but it would make it VERY inefficient 20:55:56 <HackyKid> hehe 20:56:15 <KUDr> but if you don't have enough space, then pbs could help a lot 20:56:39 <XeryusTC> true, but i like big junctions so my trains dont have to slow down 20:56:39 <HackyKid> XeryusTC: well, it handled loads of trains with about 80% of the platforms filled at all times 20:56:50 <HackyKid> and almost no waiting by the trains 20:56:50 <KUDr> using pbs you can design much better junctions 20:57:02 <MeusH> KUDr: when is YAPF due to release? There is nothing about new pathfinder in the Roadmap 20:57:19 <XeryusTC> MeusH: when its done? :P 20:57:21 <HackyKid> hey look, the same station prepbs: http://www.tt-forums.net//files/faburg_transport__16th_dec_1979_171.png 20:57:29 <KUDr> MeusH: it should come to trunk very soon 20:57:45 <KUDr> when i will feel it is debugged 20:57:52 <MeusH> is it possible to have it in 0.5.0? 20:58:01 <KUDr> depends on number of people using it 20:58:20 <KUDr> MeusH: it IS supposed to be at 0.5.0 20:58:28 <MeusH> oh, great 20:58:41 <XeryusTC> once you go yapf you wont go npf :P 20:58:43 <KUDr> if there will be no fatal problems 20:58:58 <MeusH> do you still need some bugfinding/ideas? 20:59:07 <KUDr> yes 20:59:14 <KUDr> it is never enough 20:59:48 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:00:21 <[Shaman]> KUDr: Could it be possible to let the 'clone vehicle' thing share the waypoint list instead of copying it?.. or would that be more something for a patch that you can enable or summat? 21:00:38 <HackyKid> i think it does that if you hold control 21:00:45 <[Shaman]> it does? 21:00:51 <[Shaman]> then i must be doing something wrong :/ 21:00:56 <XeryusTC> press ctrl indeed :) 21:01:07 <[Shaman]> or my keyboard is deciding to being an ass again 21:01:07 <KUDr> yes 21:01:40 <KUDr> [Shaman]: try another keyboard 21:02:08 <XeryusTC> it would be nice if you could enable sharing in stead of copying by default 21:02:20 <KUDr> agree 21:02:27 <KUDr> i always use sharing 21:03:29 <[Shaman]> KUDr: nah, this G15 is good, it's probably the fact i use the oldest drivers availible that's screwing up 21:03:38 *** hylje [i=hylje@a84-230-90-195.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:03:59 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:05:17 <MeusH> cya 21:05:31 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 21:09:20 *** Born-Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8FEFFE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 21:09:38 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 21:10:14 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:11:06 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2454.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 21:11:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:12:02 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:12:46 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 21:14:32 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 21:15:36 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:15:45 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:47 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:23:29 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.2.100] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 21:27:06 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:30:12 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:32:06 *** Belugas_ [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 21:34:29 *** _RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 21:41:08 <peter1138> nini 21:41:24 <Sacro> peter1138: night mate 21:42:46 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:45:55 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4654 /trunk/ (newgrf.c settings_gui.c): - Fix [NewGRF]: Properly read in the GRFID. This fixes GRFID checking and activation/deactivation. Do swap the GRFID for displaying purposes. 21:47:24 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:47:48 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4655 /trunk/newgrf.c: - Fix [NewGRF r4654]: /me bangs head against the wall....gaah 21:48:10 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has joined #openttd 21:52:05 *** Nubi [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 21:57:04 <Sacro> what a commit 21:57:05 *** HackyKid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:57:31 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:42 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:57:45 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.105.34] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC"] 22:02:12 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:09:20 <XeryusTC> why is ottd so addictive? 22:10:33 <ln-> because it contains code from transport tycoon deluxe. 22:10:47 <Jpl> why you said that? 22:10:49 <Jpl> ;) 22:12:30 <ln-> let's give credit to the one who deserves it -- chris sawyer. 22:13:17 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:13:43 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:14:57 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 22:15:49 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:16:25 <izhirahider> where is he now? 22:17:04 <ln-> http://www.chrissawyer.com/ 22:18:29 <Sacro> errr, dragon, your going under 22:18:43 <izhirahider> I always thought rollercoaster tycoon was much better tt 22:18:49 <izhirahider> ln-: thanks 22:19:30 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:22:01 <Sacro> RT3 is quite good 22:22:04 <Sacro> compared to theme park 22:24:00 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: ping 22:24:28 <XeryusTC> Sacro: i don't agree on that 22:24:28 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:26:38 *** ector [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:27:25 * XeryusTC waits for a responce 22:28:07 <Brianetta> Could be waiting a while - he's playin on my server 22:29:11 <izhirahider> Sacro: never played that 22:29:11 <XeryusTC> could you kick him gently for me then? 22:31:32 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 22:32:50 * Sacro stumbles across a discussion involving him 22:33:40 *** Belugas_ [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:35:23 <Sacro> XeryusTC: you wanted me? 22:35:42 <XeryusTC> yes, i dont agree that rct3 is better then theme park 22:35:43 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549474D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 22:35:45 <XeryusTC> in my case that is theme park world :) 22:37:27 <Sacro> ahh, well ive never played TPW 22:37:45 <XeryusTC> which version did you play? 22:38:00 <Sacro> errm, amiga and PC 22:38:14 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-169-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:41 <XeryusTC> original tp is crappy, tpw is cool 8) 22:39:34 <Sacro> lol, i never went on TPW, it did always look better than TP 22:40:36 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:40:41 <XeryusTC> tpw is full 3D, and i think that people started to request the ability to ride your attraction in rct because of tpw :) 22:40:45 <black_Nightmare> back 22:40:49 <black_Nightmare> brianetta..what happened? 22:41:53 <Sacro> yeah, maybe 22:42:27 <XeryusTC> could be other tp version too btw 22:42:36 <XeryusTC> you could ride your attractions since the original :) 22:42:36 *** wonea [n=wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:44:21 <Sacro> yeah, but in the original, it was pre-rendered, 22:44:30 <Sacro> it was a generic ride, not your own park 22:44:39 <XeryusTC> i know 22:44:51 <XeryusTC> but it was still pretty neat 22:45:12 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:45:32 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:23 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 22:47:05 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: You went bust 22:47:20 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:50:03 <XeryusTC> why do people always do that in mp? :P 22:50:08 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81A72.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:01:51 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82203.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:14:57 <black_Nightmare> http://web.ncf.ca/fg438/quicknote12.PNG << for sacro and brianetta 23:15:55 *** Belugas_ [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 23:26:42 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:27:48 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:27:58 <RichK67> hi all 23:28:04 <Sacro> hey RichK67 23:28:30 <XeryusTC> heya RichK67 23:29:04 <RichK67> xeryus - whats this about "tons of errors" with TGP? 23:30:01 <XeryusTC> RichK67: i tried to put the tgp patch on the yapf branch, but some lines weren't the same as specified in the .patch file so i got alot of errors 23:30:08 <XeryusTC> but luckely KUDr fixed it :D 23:30:50 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:30:51 *** bananafarm [n=sodomy@c9119dee.bhz.virtua.com.br] has joined #openttd 23:31:06 <RichK67> it was a real worrying statement when i read it... cos it was pretty clean on trunk :) 23:32:22 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:33:12 *** CobraA1 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:33:17 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:33:29 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:29 <XeryusTC> RichK67: you shouldnt 23:38:45 <RichK67> worry? well, im running out of time to fix things... im off on 2 weeks foreign hol on Fri am, and need "final" versions of TGP and 6 airports ready for assessment 23:40:05 <XeryusTC> ok, have phun with it 23:40:10 <XeryusTC> im off to bed now 23:40:11 <XeryusTC> night 23:40:17 <RichK67> gn 23:41:45 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:47:57 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:49:04 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:49:31 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:58 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"]