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00:03:20 <glx> wow Bjarni's still awake! :) 00:03:25 <Tobin> It's the distribution of tt-forums users around the world, isn't it? 00:03:35 <Tobin> Morning Bjarni. 00:04:08 <Bjarni> I'm not really sure that I'm still awake 00:04:34 <Bjarni> since I don't get how a 3rd party can figure out where the forum users live 00:04:52 <Tobin> They don't you add yourself. 00:05:33 <Bjarni> oh 00:05:40 <Bjarni> 63 people... 00:05:49 <Bjarni> I think the forum got more people than that 00:06:11 <glx> hmm no 64 peoples :) 00:06:38 <Tobin> 65 now... 00:06:41 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-110-97.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 00:07:33 <Bjarni> now I know why Thor Rune can say such weird stuff 00:07:44 <Bjarni> no sane person would live where he lives 00:07:46 <Bjarni> :p 00:08:46 <Tobin> Where does he live? 00:09:03 <vrak> rather north in norway 00:09:12 <Tobin> Oh, I see now. 00:10:43 *** _FredNeuberger [n=fred@geekhosting.de] has joined #openttd 00:11:53 <vrak> huh, they've mislabeled the place i live in 00:12:08 *** FredNeuberger [n=fred@geekhosting.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:14:30 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 00:17:11 <Bjarni> <vrak> huh, they've mislabeled the place i live in <-- well, I just zoomed really close in on Thor Rune, and it appears that he lives in a lake :D 00:17:19 <Bjarni> with no road connection 00:17:41 <Bjarni> at least it's kind of close to a nearby town 00:19:06 <Bjarni> glx: wow, you live at an expensive address 00:19:20 <Bjarni> AFAIK everything that close to Paris got insane prices 00:19:55 <Bjarni> I better get some sleep now. It's getting late 00:19:56 *** BJH__ [n=chatzill@e176117069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:19:57 <glx> my father bought the house from my grand-father in 1976 00:20:07 <glx> so it was not that expensive :) 00:21:08 <Bjarni> I once heard of a flat in the middle of the City, that was for sale for 40 million franc o_O 00:21:17 <Bjarni> it was not even that big 00:22:05 <Bjarni> goodnight (what's left of it anyway) 00:22:11 <glx> night Bjarni 00:22:14 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46af7.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:27:20 <CIA-3> belugas * r4838 /trunk/ (newgrf.c openttd.h): Newgrf : Add empty base for newcargos 00:27:52 <Tobin> Oooer, new cargoes. 00:34:39 <ln-> new cargos such as? 00:34:45 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:39:28 <Belugas_Gone> BEER! 00:42:48 <Belugas_Gone> That will be nice : bring some water (already a cargo), add some grain (already a cargo) and you get beer :) 00:43:18 <Belugas_Gone> Problem, before anything can really be happening, newindustries must be done :( 00:43:29 <Belugas_Gone> and that is a big one to do 00:45:09 <valhallasw> :) 00:45:15 <valhallasw> what kind of beer? 00:45:33 <Belugas_Gone> Belgian, the best ones, of course :D 00:45:38 <valhallasw> :) 00:45:54 <Belugas_Gone> Blondes, I simply cannot resist them 00:45:59 <Belugas_Gone> beer.. not girls... 00:46:10 <Belugas_Gone> already marrider, so look but don't touch ;) 00:46:25 <Belugas_Gone> s/marrider/married 00:46:35 <Belugas_Gone> pff... already drunk... 00:46:40 <Belugas_Gone> good night all 00:47:35 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallazzzw 00:56:38 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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It was you wasn't it!?"] 04:15:56 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2E9ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:15:56 *** dp is now known as dp-- 04:23:02 *** PandaMojo [n=panda@66-146-188-50.skyriver.net] has quit [] 04:30:22 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37548.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:31:49 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 05:07:44 <hector3d> You guys drink to much. 05:17:12 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2CCE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:29:14 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:37:05 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2F8CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:37:05 *** dp is now known as dp-- 05:40:14 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:42:16 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:52:27 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 05:52:44 *** Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Gussoh, MiHaMiX, dfox 05:54:35 *** gryph [n=gryph@130.225.245.182] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:55:14 *** Netsplit over, joins: dfox, MiHaMiX, Gussoh 05:58:53 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:04:36 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B75287.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:06:27 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:07:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75561.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:07:38 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:13:46 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:16:38 *** LadyHawk [n=here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:16:52 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:20:10 *** stillunknown [n=unknown@82-168-179-194.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 06:22:46 <LadyHawk> hey everyone 06:23:09 <guru3> lo 06:23:23 <peter1138> hello 06:24:42 <LadyHawk> there's a bug in nightly build 4813 and i just noticed it isn't fixed in the newest one 06:25:00 <LadyHawk> it fails to load scenarios i just created 06:26:02 <peter1138> in the same version? 06:26:59 <peter1138> hmm, indeed 06:27:11 <peter1138> it does load in the scenario editor though 06:27:53 <peter1138> ah 06:27:56 <peter1138> did you add a town? 06:28:10 <LadyHawk> oh is that a known thing lol 06:28:22 <peter1138> seems you can't have no towns in a scenario 06:28:30 <peter1138> would be nice if it created random towns for you 06:28:39 <peter1138> LadyHawk: well, no, i just tested it :) 06:28:58 <LadyHawk> didn't it at some point refuse to save the scenario in the editor if there weren't any towns? 06:29:36 <LadyHawk> it would pop up a message 06:29:40 <peter1138> hmm 06:30:19 <KUDr> it would be bad to refuse save without towns 06:30:33 <LadyHawk> why would it be? 06:30:43 <LadyHawk> at least nobody will run on that error wondering what's going on 06:30:47 <blathijs> because you can't continue later on 06:30:47 <peter1138> cos you might not have finished making the landscape 06:31:05 <peter1138> i reckon we should allow scenarios without towns, though 06:31:08 <KUDr> you can want to prepare land-only half made scenario and save it 06:31:35 <KUDr> it should be detected on load 06:31:42 <LadyHawk> save it with a small town on 1 square of land in a remote corner 06:31:57 <LadyHawk> remove when finished landscaping 06:32:00 <KUDr> it is warkaround, not a solution 06:33:19 <LadyHawk> but what good is a scenario with no towns to play anyways, cant place industries either.. a solution wouldn't be very helpful 06:33:54 <peter1138> well, it could be used to get a nicer landscape 06:34:01 <peter1138> hmm 06:34:23 <peter1138> i generally don't play scenarios as the towns are usually too developed 06:35:22 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 06:35:22 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:38:08 <LadyHawk> :p 06:40:25 *** _FredNeuberger is now known as FredNeuberger 06:42:11 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:48:11 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:48:12 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 07:05:06 *** Red479 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 07:10:38 <MiHaMiX> ZsoL: hi 07:10:48 <MiHaMiX> ZsoL: azaz szia :) 07:13:04 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 07:16:39 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:20:51 <MiHaMiX> bbl, shopping 07:26:29 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 07:28:34 <Celestar> morning 07:28:50 <peter1138> hi 07:32:09 <Celestar> whats new? 07:32:17 <Celestar> Darkvater: you there? 07:34:12 <Celestar> peter1138: opinion: does a branch need to be backward compatible (like be able to load older savegames of the same branch?) 07:35:20 <peter1138> no 07:35:25 <peter1138> only of trunk 07:35:51 <peter1138> MiHaMiX: what's the issue with ³ in the webtranslator? 07:36:12 <Celestar> peter1138: ok 07:36:19 * Celestar resumes modifying the bridge branch 07:37:04 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46af7.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:37:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:38:01 <Fujitsu> Evening, Bjarni. 07:38:29 <Bjarni> evening??? 07:38:32 <Bjarni> I just woke up 07:38:37 <Bjarni> now that sounds bad 07:41:58 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:43:02 <peter1138> Bjarni: what was the issue with ³s? 07:43:30 <peter1138> and it's 8:45 07:43:32 <peter1138> i should be going 07:44:02 <Darkvater> baaah, I can't get freetype to work correctly 07:44:10 <Darkvater> somehow I can't export its functions decorated 07:44:15 <Darkvater> even with WINAPI 07:44:29 <peter1138> o_O 07:44:36 <Celestar> Darkvater: opinion: does a branch need to be backward compatible (like be able to load older savegames of the same branch?) 07:44:36 <Bjarni> <peter1138> Bjarni: what was the issue with ³s? <-- MiHaMiX's translator displays it as ? 07:45:04 <Bjarni> Celestar: not really, since it's a branch 07:45:20 <Bjarni> but if it is the 0.4 branch... 07:45:21 <Darkvater> Celestar: brb, need reboot 07:45:46 <Celestar> Bjarni: nope, bridge branch 07:47:29 <Bjarni> go ahead and kill all bridge branch savegames. People are warned that it could happen, so you should not bother too much or even hold back patches due to this issue 07:48:51 <Fujitsu> I won't mind :) 07:50:58 * Celestar starts installation of 10.1 07:51:11 <Celestar> Darkvater: your reboot takes LONG :S 07:52:02 <Bjarni> 10.1 of what? 07:52:24 <ThePizzaKing> Go Celestar! 07:52:34 <ThePizzaKing> SuSE Linux I presume 07:53:26 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 07:53:41 <Celestar> ThePizzaKing: yes. 07:53:46 <Bjarni> why do we have so many Australian visitors now? 07:53:52 <Fujitsu> SuSE... /me shudders. 07:53:53 <Celestar> because Down Under rocks :) 07:53:56 <Bjarni> Do we normally have that at this hour? 07:54:09 <Fujitsu> Yes. 07:54:20 <ThePizzaKing> I'm usually here now 07:54:28 <Fujitsu> I'm always here now. 07:54:35 <Fujitsu> It /is/ 1800. 07:54:45 <Prof_Frink> no 07:54:48 <Prof_Frink> it's 2006 07:55:00 <Prof_Frink> They didn't have IRC in 18000 07:55:08 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink beat me to write that :/ 07:55:09 <SpComb> there was no 18000 07:55:23 <Bjarni> well, Australia can be a bit backward 07:55:43 * ThePizzaKing goes Woooooo for backwardsness 07:55:43 <Prof_Frink> SpComb: Bah. 07:56:29 <Celestar> Fujitsu: any more stuff tested with bridges? 07:56:39 * Fujitsu kills Bjarni. 07:56:54 <Fujitsu> I've been at TAFE the past two nights. Tertiary education takes priority... 07:58:34 <Celestar> TAFE? 07:58:45 <Bjarni> Australian 07:58:59 <Bjarni> don't think too much about it 08:00:04 <Bjarni> * Fujitsu kills Bjarni. <-- that would be silly. Then you will miss out on a lot of great stuff in OTTD 08:00:13 <Fujitsu> Very true. 08:00:20 * Fujitsu reincarnates Bjarni. 08:00:23 <Bjarni> for instance, I'm currently working on bringing the Danish translation up to date 08:00:34 <Fujitsu> Technical and Further Education, Celestar. 08:00:38 <Bjarni> you would not miss out on something as great as that 08:00:42 <vondel> that's a translation i'm going to miss anyway 08:01:05 <Fujitsu> ie. tertiary. 08:01:18 <Fujitsu> Oh dear. I'm going to die of a lack of pastry :P 08:01:48 <Celestar> ternary :P 08:04:43 *** roboman [i=leojbg@blaax9-b143.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:06:22 <Fujitsu> Tertiary, foolish Celestar. 08:11:44 <Bjarni> is the forum down? 08:12:05 <roboman> i cant get there 08:12:15 <peter1138> ternary! 08:12:22 <Bjarni> ok, then it's not just me 08:12:35 <Bjarni> !slap Fujitsu 08:12:36 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni is burning Fujitsu's defected 4x mitsumi cd-rom device . Watch those flames! woah! 08:12:50 * Fujitsu wonders why he was slapped. 08:12:54 <Fujitsu> !insult Bjarni 08:12:55 <jmp_ghli> >Fujitsu> fujitsu tells Bjarni: Why don't you give me your address so I can go and see where a semi-trained chimp with a limp lives when its not banging its paws on the keyboard? 08:12:58 * roboman thought it might have been because he was using dial-up temporarily 08:13:05 <Bjarni> Celestar is not a fool. I know that for a fact 08:13:17 <Fujitsu> When he says ternary he is. 08:13:27 <Bjarni> !insult Fujitsu 08:13:27 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells Fujitsu: I don't know what makes you so stupid, but it really works! 08:13:28 <Fujitsu> Otherwise, he is not, from what I've seen at lease :P 08:13:36 <Celestar> Bjarni: hm? 08:13:46 <peter1138> tertiary education, what a waste of time :) 08:13:49 <Fujitsu> *least 08:13:54 <Darkvater> sorry Celestar. Had to crash once and reboot twice before I could use this pc 08:13:54 <Fujitsu> peter1138, no uni, then? 08:14:10 <peter1138> not for me 08:14:11 <Fujitsu> Tut tut. What OS, Darkvater? 08:14:28 <Bjarni> online education from an unknown uni, that only exists online? 08:14:41 <Bjarni> sounds like windows, but I'm not sure 08:14:50 <peter1138> Darkvater: short fix for the unsupported variables: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/unsup.diff long fix: unsup2.diff 08:15:59 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 08:16:55 <peter1138> hmm, dunno how that makefile change got there ;p 08:17:10 <Darkvater> Celestar: no, only trunk needs bw compatiblity 08:17:21 <Darkvater> Fujitsu: win2k@shell on a PII 450 or something 08:17:35 <Fujitsu> Oooh. 08:17:39 * Fujitsu shudders. 08:17:44 <Fujitsu> Win2k is never a good thing. 08:17:53 <Celestar> Darkvater: ok. 08:18:00 <Darkvater> peter1138: didn't you already commit unsup.diff? 08:18:03 <Celestar> Tron isn't here :S 08:18:04 <Darkvater> tell me? 08:18:10 <Darkvater> ok, back to work 08:19:19 <roboman> bye:( 08:19:19 <peter1138> Darkvater: no 08:20:06 *** roboman [i=leojbg@blaax9-b143.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:21:01 <peter1138> oh for exceptions... try { value = GetVariable(...); } catch { /* value not supported */ } 08:23:45 <Darkvater> whaaat? 08:24:13 <Celestar> Darkvater: later today, could you make some binary for the bridge patch? 08:24:16 <peter1138> heh 08:24:41 <peter1138> so, the first or second patch? :P 08:27:05 <Darkvater> later, later 08:28:00 <peter1138> (or something else) 08:29:25 <Darkvater> hmm both of them are weird;p 08:30:56 <peter1138> indeed 08:31:14 <peter1138> could do return foo; -> value = foo; break; 08:31:37 <peter1138> then return true at the end (with default: being return false) 08:32:36 <peter1138> or return an int64, hah 08:33:00 <peter1138> or be assemblish, and set a processor flag... 08:33:34 <Darkvater> ;p 08:33:42 <Darkvater> I told ya to use the registry 08:34:00 <Fujitsu> Of course. 08:34:05 <Fujitsu> We all <3 Windows. 08:34:07 <peter1138> xml rpc 08:34:29 <Bjarni> ok, now I know that Fujitsu is either corrupt or insane (or both) 08:34:38 <peter1138> http://rpc.openttd.org/newgrf/vehicle/getvariable 08:34:45 <Darkvater> why don't we use SOAP? 08:34:58 * Fujitsu hasn't used Windows for more than a couple of consecutive minutes in the past year :D 08:35:05 <peter1138> http://soap.openttd.org/gfx/getsprite 08:35:14 * Fujitsu chokes Darkvater to death by stuffing SOAP down his throat. 08:35:23 * Fujitsu goes to dinner, stuffs food down his throat. 08:35:35 <Darkvater> pet \o/ 08:35:53 <peter1138> perhaps i'll do the first one, as it's smaller... 08:36:15 <peter1138> perhaps some other dev could put forward opinions ;po 08:38:08 <peter1138> Bjarni's perfect 08:38:12 <peter1138> for the job 08:38:18 <peter1138> not for anythign else ;p 08:41:11 <Darkvater> ;p 08:41:16 <CIA-3> celestar * r4839 /branch/bridge/openttd.c: [bridge] -Fix: When loading old savegames, point v->tile to the correct tile (a bridge head) 08:41:38 <Tobin> Hehe, http://www.google.com/trends?q=openttd%2C+ttdpatch 08:42:37 <Tobin> Celestar: So, bridges behave like tunnels now? I.e. they're worm holes and the vehicle moving between the ends is just the way it's drawn? 08:42:41 <peter1138> hmm 08:42:43 *** Koalabaerchen [n=koala@124.v103.ae0.core01.fra1.unitedcolo.de] has joined #openttd 08:42:49 <peter1138> and no Tron to tell me it's all shit :( 08:42:49 * Tobin hasn't actually looked at the code 08:42:50 *** Koalabaerchen [n=koala@124.v103.ae0.core01.fra1.unitedcolo.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:42:54 <Celestar> Tobin: basically, yes? 08:43:04 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:13 <Tobin> Goodoh, nice to know. 08:43:33 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:48:58 <Celestar> Tobin: why? 08:49:51 <Tobin> Just curiosity. I was wondering how crossing bridges could work given the "flat" nature of the map array. 08:50:14 <Celestar> :) 08:50:17 <Celestar> wormholes 08:50:23 <Tobin> Have bridges always been this way or did it change after the bridge branch was created? 08:50:31 <Celestar> it has been changed. 08:50:37 <Tobin> Thought so. 08:50:46 <Celestar> actually the bridge branch is less mystical in that behavior 08:50:51 <Celestar> +u 08:50:53 <peter1138> Tobin: crossing tunnels work... so :) 08:51:10 <Tobin> Yeah, I noticed. 08:51:12 <Tobin> :) 08:51:50 <Tobin> Man, Google trends is nifty. 08:53:02 <Tobin> Kind of like what Googlefight would be if it wasn't trying so hard to be cute. 08:53:55 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:19 <peter1138> hmm 09:01:29 <CIA-3> celestar * r4840 /branch/bridge/bridge_map.h: [bridge] -Codechange: Change the meaning of bits for bridge middle parts. One bit is used for bridges in X direction, another for Y direction 09:03:25 <Tobin> Hmmmm, http://www.google.com/trends?q=safari+browser%2C+firefox+browser%2C+opera+browser%2C+internet+explorer+browser&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all Firefox's trend is interesting: spikes, highpoint, mostly flat... 09:07:09 <Bjarni> <peter1138> Bjarni's perfect <-- that goes without saying, but what do you want me to do? 09:08:22 * Fujitsu worships Bjarni. 09:10:21 <Bjarni> ... 09:10:28 <Bjarni> that's bad 09:10:32 <Fujitsu> You are the Mac person. 09:10:33 <peter1138> moo 09:11:02 <Bjarni> now I'm being worshipped by a corrupt and insane man, that is sitting upside down 09:11:15 <peter1138> Bjarni: unsup.diff / unsup2.diff 09:11:37 <Bjarni> ? 09:11:47 <Fujitsu> I'm upside down, corrupt and insane? 09:11:55 <peter1138> @ http://195.112.37.102/ottd/ 09:12:49 <Bjarni> newgrf stuff? 09:13:09 <peter1138> ya 09:13:24 <Bjarni> >_< 09:13:40 <Bjarni> I have still to figure out how grf files work 09:14:07 <peter1138> not to read that diff 09:14:44 <Bjarni> another thing, that would be nice would be to have time to read the diff 09:15:00 <Bjarni> I'm about it leave and odds are that the train will not wait for me if I'm late 09:15:21 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-156-127.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 09:15:48 <Bjarni> so I will be away for the rest of the day 09:15:50 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:16:51 <Bjarni> <Fujitsu> I'm upside down, corrupt and insane? <-- you are Australian and <Fujitsu> We all <3 Windows. 09:17:08 <Fujitsu> I /adore/ Windows. 09:17:13 <Fujitsu> And I am in fact Canadian. 09:17:23 <Fujitsu> I /love/ Billy G. 09:17:32 <Fujitsu> So I use Ubuntu. 09:17:35 <Bjarni> so you are gay as well? 09:17:50 <Fujitsu> Ha. Ha. 09:19:19 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:54 <Darkvater> OMG how STUPID is VBA? 09:27:22 <Darkvater> after about 6 hours I finally figure out how to call a function in a module of another excel file 09:27:29 <Darkvater> Application.Run ActiveWorkbook.Name + "!CAS" 09:27:46 <Darkvater> but if that file has spaces in its name or other weird stuff it WILL not work, ever 09:27:50 <Darkvater> o_O 09:27:59 <Darkvater> that took me another 2 hours 09:28:33 <Darkvater> so what does a man do? Create a stub function in the given file that calls through to the real function 09:28:36 <Darkvater> Call ActiveWorkbook.Sheets("input").CAS 09:28:51 <Fujitsu> Er... Not use VBA? 09:29:00 <Darkvater> Sub CAS() Call Module1.CAS 09:29:00 <Darkvater> End Sub 09:29:15 <Darkvater> and say a BIG FUCK YOU to this retarded language 09:29:40 <Darkvater> Fujitsu: unfortunately that is not an option I have 09:29:55 <Fujitsu> :O 09:29:59 * Fujitsu pities Darkvater. 09:30:28 <Darkvater> it keeps me on the edge :) 09:33:11 <Fujitsu> How can you do it!? 09:33:22 <Fujitsu> It's one of the most retarded lasnguages ever. 09:33:27 <Fujitsu> *languages. 09:33:29 <valhallazzzw> VB is not that bad 09:33:35 <valhallazzzw> it's just the implementation that's bad 09:34:36 <Darkvater> you have no idea how much excel/vba is used professionally 09:35:15 <valhallazzzw> I don't want to ;) 09:44:48 <mikl> valhallazzzw: wrong: VB is bad. Weakl and implicit typing... :( 09:46:06 <Darkvater> it IS bad 09:46:34 <mikl> 90% infernal :) 09:46:45 <valhallazzzw> mikl: you, sir, have never used VB 09:47:14 <mikl> valhallazzzw: I'd say that's a pretty wild guess 09:47:29 <valhallazzzw> if you complain about implicit typing 09:47:33 <valhallazzzw> it's a pretty good one 09:47:44 <valhallazzzw> as you fail to realize perl does the same 09:48:01 <valhallazzzw> and fail to realize both programming languages have the same fix 09:48:25 <mikl> valhallazzzw: I never said perl was a good programming language either :P 09:48:49 <valhallazzzw> I see no-one complaining about perl's implicit things 09:49:02 <valhallazzzw> it's just a great thing to bash VB with, isn't it? 09:49:07 <mikl> but implicit is not bad in itself, but if you combine it with weak typing, then you get problems 09:49:40 <valhallazzzw> define 'weak typing' 09:51:40 <Darkvater> valhallazzzw: I have VERY valid reasons to bash VB 09:52:33 <mikl> valhallazzzw: when something is not type-safe 09:53:19 <valhallazzzw> Darkvater: you have very valid reasons to *bash microsofts implementation of VBA in Office* 09:53:36 <Darkvater> valhallazzzw: yep, VBA 09:53:47 <Darkvater> also I also have very valid reasons to bash VBScript 09:53:51 <Darkvater> my god 09:54:18 <valhallazzzw> note the difference between a *language* and an *implementation* 09:55:12 <Fujitsu> VBScript is shocking. 09:55:28 <Fujitsu> valhallazzzw, Visual Basic is flawed. BASIC itself is flawed. 09:55:37 <valhallazzzw> Fujitsu: no, no 09:55:50 <hylje> what we would do without C.. 09:55:50 <Celestar> ok guys. 09:55:59 <Celestar> what is "GetBridgeHeight" supposed to do? 09:56:17 <Fujitsu> Celestar, you've been trying to work that out for days... 09:57:01 <hylje> i think it gets the height of the bridge 09:57:21 <Fujitsu> hylje, I would presume so. But that'd be too simple. 09:58:13 <mikl> nothing is rarely simple when it comes to C ;) 09:58:14 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-202.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:59:14 <Fujitsu> mikl, does that imply things are rarely complex? 09:59:28 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 09:59:36 <hylje> at least when you break the complex thing into simple tasks 09:59:39 <mikl> Fujitsu: not really - that came off wrong :) 10:03:54 <Celestar> Fujitsu: nah, I've removed it and rewritten from scratch 10:04:12 <Fujitsu> Celestar, good! 10:04:37 <Celestar> I'm just not sure whether I should commit it 10:04:57 <Fujitsu> Celestar, why not? 10:05:45 <Celestar> well, I'm still testing stuff 10:05:50 <Darkvater> because he doesn't know what it does ;p 10:05:57 <mikl> for patch in brain: 10:06:01 * Celestar slaps Darkvater 10:06:02 <mikl> commit() 10:06:11 <Fujitsu> !slap Darkvater 10:06:12 <jmp_ghli> >Fujitsu> fujitsu has a picture about Darkvater getting a big red lollipop as a birthday present. 10:06:15 <hylje> commit(suicide); 10:06:18 <Fujitsu> Celestar, learn how to do it properly :P 10:06:38 <Celestar> !botsnack 10:07:08 * Fujitsu goes into #ubuntu-au and gives ubotu a snack. 10:07:17 * Fujitsu pats ubotu. 10:07:50 <Darkvater> you guys are unnice 10:08:04 <Fujitsu> Why? 10:08:36 * Fujitsu wonders what other features are on the way. 10:11:06 <Darkvater> peter1138: I hope to get freetype working though over the weekend. We just have to decide which components to compile 10:11:22 <peter1138> hmm 10:11:30 <Darkvater> peter1138: eg i found zlib/gzip compression useless, added the patented autohinter and truetype 10:11:31 <mikl> 3D-graphics! Spaceships! :) 10:12:09 <peter1138> heh 10:12:13 * Darkvater thinks he will have to write a .def file for the library which he has no intention of doing :s 10:12:15 <Fujitsu> FreeType for fonts? 10:12:26 <peter1138> yes 10:12:35 <Fujitsu> Sounds good. 10:12:43 <Fujitsu> I have a little experience... 10:12:55 <Darkvater> peter1138: do large fonts work for you? Cause when I tried it ottd crashed 10:13:08 <Darkvater> also I had some weird '?' characters in for example the station-build window 10:13:18 <Darkvater> at a place where there shouldn't be any strings 10:13:28 <peter1138> hmm 10:13:38 <peter1138> there are a couple of bugs with the version you've got 10:14:02 <peter1138> the sprite width/height needs to be a minimum of 1 pixel 10:14:10 <peter1138> that's what is crashing 10:14:28 <peter1138> fontcache.c:113 & 114 10:14:43 <peter1138> add a max(1, ...) 10:14:51 <Darkvater> hmm ok. so you're not using stable version of freetype2? 10:15:06 <Darkvater> cuase I needa compile it anyways so it's best to ick the right one 10:15:07 <peter1138> um? 10:15:20 <Darkvater> ah..the diff is buggy 10:15:30 <peter1138> my patch, yes ;p 10:15:32 <Darkvater> I thought the freetype version I've got is buggy 10:15:37 <peter1138> (who'da funk it) 10:15:58 <Fujitsu> Hahaha 10:17:13 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 10:17:38 * Fujitsu fiddles with GTKmm. 10:20:54 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-105196.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 10:21:53 <Darkvater> 'ello Hackykid 10:22:04 <Hackykid> hey Darkvater 10:22:46 <Fujitsu> Evening, Hackykid. 10:23:13 <Hackykid> hmmm, more like afternoon really :-p 10:25:32 <Fujitsu> No, 8:25pm here :P 10:25:54 <Hendikins> Anyone feel like a game? 10:26:04 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [] 10:27:32 <Fujitsu> I /would/ but bandwidth usage is an issue :( 10:29:21 <Hendikins> ottd uses buggerall bandwidth 10:29:44 * Hendikins has played it on 24000bps dial-up before 10:30:15 <Fujitsu> Yeah. 10:30:23 <Fujitsu> I often play it over 28.8kbps. 10:30:33 <Fujitsu> But, 1GiB download limit doesn't go far... 10:30:38 <Fujitsu> And it adds up. 10:32:30 <Hendikins> Why bother with cable if you're going to have a 1 gig limit? 10:32:48 <Fujitsu> Try telling my parents that. 10:33:16 <Fujitsu> I can do ~2MiB per second from good sites. 10:33:24 <Fujitsu> 500s to exceed download limit >_< 10:33:51 <Hendikins> I thought you were on a cable node, not ADSL2+? 10:33:59 <Fujitsu> Cable, yes. 10:34:03 <Fujitsu> > 10Mbps. 10:34:20 <Hendikins> Optus doesn't commercially offer anything above 10mbps/256k 10:34:29 <Fujitsu> Theoretically, yes. 10:34:30 * Hendikins is on Telstra cable at 21mbps/256k 10:34:51 <Fujitsu> But I can get very close to 2MiB/s 10:34:56 <Hendikins> ...with backup ADSL at 512/128 10:34:58 <Darkvater> OMG 10:35:03 <Hendikins> I can get 2.4 megabytes per second. 10:35:06 <Darkvater> I can't do a for loop in VBA which goes i-- 10:35:12 * Fujitsu would like to be on some ADSL2+ plan, WITH A HIGHER LIMIT THAN 1GiB. 10:35:17 <Celestar> Darkvater: ? 10:35:19 * Darkvater is going to kill somebody very soon 10:35:20 <Fujitsu> Step -1, Darkvater? 10:35:22 <Celestar> STEP -1 ? 10:35:33 <Darkvater> for i = 5 to 1 .. next i 10:35:34 * Fujitsu isn't proud of his BASIC heritage. 10:35:43 <Hendikins> Tried bargaining with the parents? Offering to pay the difference? 10:35:44 <Celestar> FOR I = 5 TO 1 STEP -1 10:35:45 <Fujitsu> For i = 5 to 1 step - 1 10:35:46 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176117069.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:35:56 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, I have no source of income to pay the difference. 10:36:17 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has joined #openttd 10:36:37 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-179-202.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 10:36:51 * Darkvater is still going to kill somebody 10:37:02 <Darkvater> I solved it with a do/while loop though 10:37:23 <Hendikins> Fujitsu: They're not willing to stretch extra when you're obviously getting capped? Even my parents aren't that abd 10:37:25 <Hendikins> er, bad 10:37:43 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, mine area. 10:37:45 <Fujitsu> *are 10:37:54 <Fujitsu> Even though we often get capped after the 15th or so. 10:38:01 <Fujitsu> Last month it was the 12th >_> 10:38:37 <Hendikins> What's the point in having broadband if you're shaped to slower than dialup for most of the month? 10:38:44 <Hendikins> ...and are you a Whirlpool user? 10:39:09 <Fujitsu> I don't regularly visit Whirlpool. 10:39:55 * Hendikins does 10:40:04 <Hendikins> but I suppose on a 1 gig limit... 10:40:06 * MiHaMiX is here 10:40:12 <Fujitsu> Hi, MiHaMiX! 10:40:18 * Hendikins did more than a gig a month on dial-up 10:40:48 <Celestar> ARGGH 10:40:53 <Celestar> towns build houses under bridges : 10:40:54 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 10:41:08 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: do you still want my answer? :) 10:41:25 <peter1138> what was my question? 10:41:51 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, I used to too. 10:42:14 <Hendikins> How old are you? 10:42:54 <mikl> harr, it compiles! 10:43:04 <MiHaMiX> [[09:36]] <peter1138> MiHaMiX: what's the issue with ? in the webtranslator? 10:43:08 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, 15 and 3 weeks. 10:43:10 <peter1138> lol 10:43:11 <peter1138> ³ 10:43:13 <peter1138> the cubed sign 10:43:19 * Fujitsu cubes peter1138. 10:43:36 <Fujitsu> peter1473760072 10:43:46 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: yes. afaik that is not included in iso8859-15 10:43:51 <peter1138> it is 10:43:51 <Fujitsu> ... 10:43:58 <Fujitsu> Why ISO8859-15Q? 10:44:00 <mikl> lol, it is now possible to get everything in OTTD in SI-units :D 10:44:01 <Fujitsu> *5? 10:44:11 <MiHaMiX> bbl, work, 10 minutes 10:44:12 <Fujitsu> Any reason for no UTF8? 10:44:28 <mikl> Fujitsu: ottd doesn't support it yet 10:44:42 <Hendikins> Fujitsu: Hrm. Tried the old excuses of school and everything? 10:44:46 <Fujitsu> mikl, why ISO8859-15, then? 10:44:49 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, doesn't work. 10:44:55 <Fujitsu> Been trying for two years now :'( 10:44:58 <peter1138> yet: http://195.112.37.102/ottd/utf8-jp3.png 10:45:05 <mikl> Fujitsu: because OTTD supports that :) 10:45:19 <Fujitsu> peter1138, what window decorations are they!? 10:45:42 <Hendikins> Fujitsu: I hear McDonalds are hiring... 10:45:55 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, perhaps. 10:46:40 <peter1138> window maker 10:46:52 <Fujitsu> I'm unlikely to get any IT-related jobs at 15 (even though I do have a CCNA), so I've been looking for generic ones. 10:46:53 <Hendikins> What about blackmail? "No, I will not fix your computer"? 10:47:15 <Fujitsu> Hendikins, I just get told to fix it. Even though it's a Windows one, and I refuse to deal with Windows. 10:47:55 <CIA-3> celestar * r4841 /branch/bridge/ (6 files): [bridge] -Fix: Do not allow towns to build houses under bridges 10:47:57 <Hendikins> Get yourself capped, then say you can't fix it whilst capped. 10:47:58 <Celestar> GAAAH 10:48:01 <Celestar> wrong 10:48:09 * Fujitsu reverts Celestar. 10:48:44 <CIA-3> celestar * r4842 /branch/bridge/ (6 files): [bridge] Reverted last commit, committed waaaaay too many files 10:48:57 <Fujitsu> Brb. 10:49:13 <mikl> oh, so that's why we have such a high number of commits :) 10:50:07 <CIA-3> celestar * r4843 /branch/bridge/town_cmd.c: [bridge] -Fix (attempt #2) Do not allow towns to build houses under bridges 10:50:25 <Celestar> sorry :S 10:51:43 <Celestar> BAH 10:51:46 <Celestar> map24 10:51:57 <Celestar> "Print detail map of destination area" 10:52:06 <Celestar> prints a 4cm x 4cm Map of .... Europe 10:52:12 <peter1138> heh 10:52:14 <mikl> lol 10:52:15 <Celestar> I'm not a starship :S 10:52:32 <mikl> perhaps the klingons designed it :) 10:52:55 <mikl> perhaps map24 means something dark and sinister in klingon 10:53:14 * Celestar looks for his Klingon dictionary 10:54:23 <Fujitsu> Hmm... 10:54:36 * Fujitsu hasn't updated trunk in 48 hours :O 10:54:44 <Celestar> guys 10:54:49 <Celestar> autorail suggestion: 10:54:58 <Fujitsu> WOAH. 10:55:15 <Celestar> make autorail automagically toggle between "build" and "remove" mode depending on whether a track is present or not 10:55:39 <mikl> Celestar: that could be interesting 10:55:46 <Fujitsu> Celestar, I'd really like that. 10:55:52 <mikl> I think I'd have to try it to be sure :) 10:56:36 * Fujitsu builds r4843. 10:57:02 <Fujitsu> (of trunk, in preparation to find a network game to connect to.) 10:57:07 * Fujitsu reverts to the latest nightly. 10:57:44 <Fujitsu> Stuff this, I'm going to play a network game. 10:58:57 <peter1138> just press ctrl, heh 10:59:03 <peter1138> that puts autorail in remove mode 10:59:25 <Fujitsu> Are there /any/ recent nightly servers!? 11:00:49 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:04:03 <MiHaMiX> back 11:04:06 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: so? :) 11:04:48 <mikl> It has been well observed that a trombone is not a suitable instrument for a gentleman 11:05:19 <mikl> ? ???? ????? ??? ????? ???? ?? 11:05:20 <Fujitsu> newstations makes things much more interesting :D 11:05:28 <Fujitsu> Stop your Cyrillic. 11:05:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 11:06:03 <mikl> ah, yes - sorry 11:06:11 <MiHaMiX> thanks 11:06:31 * MiHaMiX is going to commit language changes after lunch 11:06:45 <Fujitsu> 14 hours, then? 11:07:15 <MiHaMiX> say, yes 11:08:12 <ln-> what's wrong with cyrillic english? 11:08:15 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:08:33 <MiHaMiX> ln-: well, that's not english :) 11:09:00 <valhallazzzw> It can very well be english 11:09:01 <mikl> It is, just with cyrillic letters :) 11:09:06 <valhallazzzw> it's just in another character set ;) 11:09:32 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@145.74.200.162] has joined #openttd 11:09:58 <ln-> a little like the difference between hand-written and printed english. 11:10:12 <MiHaMiX> bbl, lunch 11:11:40 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181119089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:12:31 *** Red479 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:16:30 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 11:22:15 <peter1138> hmm? 11:23:57 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ai_000.png :S 11:24:32 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ai_001.png 11:26:00 <Fujitsu> In the immortal words of Marvin: What a depressingly stupid machine. 11:27:16 <Noldo> Celestar: looks so very ai 11:27:18 <Tobin> The way the AI behaves is the only reason I can see for not merging the bridge branch. :) 11:27:53 <Tobin> How's that GPMI stuff going? I'd really like to see a better AI in the game. 11:28:10 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ai_002.png 11:32:20 <Celestar> Tobin: well the AI at least doesn'T get WORSE 11:33:27 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:00 <vondel> it looks so bad in several of those screenies 11:37:33 <Noldo> how difficult is it to make a better one? 11:37:53 *** LadyHawk [n=here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:38:04 <Darkvater> Celestar: bad suggestion for autorail 11:39:15 <Darkvater> I thought you couldn't build over houses 11:41:19 <vondel> maybe a max possible span w/o pillars is needed in some of the examples 11:41:42 <vondel> the bridge over the townroad is floating in thin air 11:42:02 <vondel> not that one 11:42:15 <vondel> the wood bridge over rails is 11:46:22 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:48:26 <Celestar> Darkvater: you couldn't 11:48:34 <Celestar> Darkvater: but that doesn't mean it works VV as well. 11:52:01 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 12:02:50 <Darkvater> :) 12:04:22 <mikl> ah, sometimes, I'd like to have a standard keyboard 12:04:56 <mikl> < and > is on the same button on mine, and that is somewhat annoying at times 12:05:34 <mikl> and you'll need do use shift to make ; and Alt Gr to make { [ ] } :/ 12:09:12 <CIA-3> celestar * r4844 /branch/bridge/train_cmd.c: [bridge] -Fix: Clearing crashes vehicles off a bridge no longer crashes the game 12:15:42 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:16:08 <MiHaMiX> back 12:16:39 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:18 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm128.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:20:40 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:22:56 *** roboman [i=leojbg@blaax9-b058.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:23:03 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:25:23 <MiHaMiX> where is STR_SELECT_ALL_FACILITIES ? 12:25:58 <Celestar> in lang/english.txt ? 12:25:58 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 12:26:05 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: jk. 12:26:07 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: ... 12:26:10 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: in the start sort. 12:26:13 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: noted :) 12:26:19 <Celestar> MiHaMiX: open stattion list, right-click "all" button 12:26:38 <MiHaMiX> ajhh 12:26:41 <MiHaMiX> found it, thanks 12:27:28 <peter1138> small font for ottd w/ freetype >> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/small.bdf 12:27:34 <peter1138> (incomplete) 12:28:05 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:28:06 <Tobin> Is the plane to create one large (wide?) font with all the languages OpenTTD uses? 12:28:10 <Tobin> *plan 12:28:49 <Tobin> *char sets 12:28:58 <Tobin> Dang, you know what I mean. 12:31:41 <CIA-3> miham * r4845 /trunk/lang/ (catalan.txt czech.txt danish.txt hungarian.txt turkish.txt): 12:31:41 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-12 14:30:27 12:31:41 <CIA-3> catalan - 45 fixed by jecaro (45) 12:31:41 <CIA-3> czech - 2 fixed by Hadez (2) 12:31:41 <CIA-3> danish - 9 fixed by Bjarni (9) 12:31:42 <CIA-3> hungarian - 10 fixed by miham (10) 12:31:44 <CIA-3> turkish - 2 fixed, 1 changed by jnmbk (3) 12:32:08 <MiHaMiX> ok, ukrainian changes will be committed at evening 12:32:10 <MiHaMiX> bbl, work 12:32:13 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:34:36 <peter1138> bah 12:34:47 <Celestar> 15 years of gametime and no significant anomaly 12:34:53 <peter1138> Tobin: only for the tiny text 12:35:01 <peter1138> Tobin: as all the existing small fonts are too large 12:35:37 <Celestar> apart from the bridge-depot problem 12:35:51 <Tobin> bridge-depot problem? 12:36:11 *** CIA-3 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [K-lined] 12:36:57 <Darkvater> peter1138: so are you making chienese small-fonts as well? :P 12:37:01 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-208-181.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:37:15 <peter1138> random data would do as well for those, at 5 pixels high :P 12:37:45 * Singaporekid dances 12:38:20 * Tobin reads stuff on http://libgpmi.org 12:38:20 <Sacro> afternoon all 12:38:20 <Darkvater> hheh 12:38:35 <Tobin> So, what _is_ going on with GPMI? 12:41:24 <Celestar> Tobin: a bridge and a depot in the same signal block cause problems 12:41:54 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 12:44:02 <Tobin> Aha, a post about GPMI from TrueLight: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=428148#428148 12:46:49 *** RoySmeding_ [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:59 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36CA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:44 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:52:47 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@84-74-37-155.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openTTD 12:53:20 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: :DDDD 12:57:13 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:57:26 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36CA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:58:13 <peter1138> is there a way to see translation state on the webtranslator? 12:58:17 <peter1138> (or do i need an account) 12:58:46 <Darkvater> there is a statistics menu somwhere on tp 12:58:48 <Darkvater> top 12:58:56 <peter1138> i mean see strings, etc 12:59:19 <Darkvater> ah, account needed 12:59:27 <Darkvater> o_O 12:59:39 <Darkvater> transltor2 looks totally fucked up in IE6 here 12:59:55 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: not just there 13:00:16 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: I don't have an ie6, but I'll improve the appearance in IE6, too 13:00:25 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: you need this: http://translator2.openttd.org/languages/GlobalStat 13:00:27 <peter1138> gurgle 13:00:30 <peter1138> i'm hungry :/ 13:00:50 * Singaporekid feeds peter1138 13:01:02 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: no that's just an overview. I think peter1138 wants to see *which* strings are done 13:01:05 <Darkvater> right? 13:01:07 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: I've been in Burger King and I'm no longer hungry.. in fact, I ate a bit too much 13:01:26 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: [[14:58]] <peter1138> is there a way to see translation state on the webtranslator? 13:01:41 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: translation state is something like a statistics, isn't it? 13:02:01 <peter1138> i just want to be nosy ;) 13:02:08 <Celestar> ok guys 13:02:13 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: yes? 13:02:14 <Celestar> I'm going to Frankfurt in a couple of minutes 13:02:22 <Celestar> till early next wekk 13:02:25 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.91.79.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:02:27 <Celestar> s/ek/ee/ 13:02:28 <Darkvater> have a safe trip :D 13:02:30 <peter1138> slackewr 13:02:33 <peter1138> -w 13:02:35 <Celestar> thanks Darkvater 13:02:43 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.89.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 13:02:46 <peter1138> code on laptop? 13:02:47 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: have a safe trip! wear condoms! :DDD 13:03:02 <Celestar> peter1138: will do of course 13:03:12 <peter1138> :) 13:03:40 * peter1138 ponders trip to tesco 13:04:07 <Darkvater> tesco's good 13:04:16 <Darkvater> they have great chocolate muffins there *D 13:04:29 <Singaporekid> Chocolate muffins! :D 13:04:31 <Darkvater> at least they had in Portsmouth last time I was there ^^ 13:05:06 <MiHaMiX> yes, they had at london, too :) (at least last time when I was there :) 13:06:14 <Sacro> peter1138: there be thunderstorms afoot 13:06:26 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: at london? ;) 13:06:34 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: yes. 13:06:47 <Darkvater> in 13:06:55 <MiHaMiX> ahh 13:07:04 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 13:07:04 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: kicsire nem adunk, nagy meg nem szamit :D 13:08:04 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@84-74-37-155.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 13:08:06 <Darkvater> hat igen, egyesek szerint ^ 13:08:34 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: okay, let's switch back to english :D 13:09:14 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: if you would have eaten as much for lunch as me, you would also made the same mistake :D 13:09:16 * peter1138 is from portsmouth, heh 13:09:30 <Darkvater> 'have made' 13:09:31 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:09:32 <Darkvater> you are? 13:09:33 <Darkvater> cool 13:09:52 <Darkvater> peter1138: why didn't you say so earlier? I was there in November to visit my father 13:10:05 <Darkvater> we were about 15 minutes from the Spinnacker 13:10:11 <Darkvater> or however you spell it 13:10:24 <peter1138> i don't live there anymore, heh 13:10:31 <peter1138> oh, have they finished that now? 13:10:38 <Darkvater> yeah 13:11:33 <peter1138> right 13:11:37 <peter1138> need to obtain lunch 13:11:38 <peter1138> bbl 13:12:28 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:12:30 <Celestar> ok guys. 13:12:38 <Celestar> enough committing for today. 13:12:57 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:37 <Celestar> I gotta go 13:13:49 <Celestar> Darkvater: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/bridgesource.tar.gz <= could you please post binaries of this on the forum? thanks 13:18:18 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@145.74.200.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:18:53 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 13:21:00 *** Aeoris [n=Aeoris@62-15-90-96.inversas.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:21:02 *** Aeoris [n=Aeoris@62-15-90-96.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:21:57 <MiHaMiX> hm 13:22:06 <MiHaMiX> where is CIA ? 13:22:27 <Darkvater> MIA? 13:22:40 <MiHaMiX> CIA-X ? 13:22:54 <MiHaMiX> where X is an arbitrary number between 1 and 9 13:23:14 <glx> hmm more than 9 :) 13:23:18 <Kjetil> CIA is k-lined ? 13:23:29 <Darkvater> MIA 13:23:42 <Darkvater> Missing In Action 13:24:01 <MiHaMiX> ahh 13:24:17 <Kjetil> 14:38:43 -!- CIA-19 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [K-lined] 13:24:37 <glx> http://cia.navi.cx/ <-- celestar is one of most active authors today 13:24:44 <MiHaMiX> ok, so ..Committed revision 4849. 13:30:03 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:30:29 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 13:32:24 <Celestar> glx: I don't see myself listed? 13:33:31 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: I see your name 13:33:32 <glx> Celestar: you were on the last line when I typed it 13:33:46 <glx> now you aren't (after a refesh) 13:34:00 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: hmm. your name disappeared :) 13:34:13 <glx> but openttd is still here :) 13:34:13 * Celestar thinks he has to commit something 13:34:19 <MiHaMiX> but OpenTTD is still in the list 13:36:35 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:37:04 <Celestar> jah 13:37:24 <Celestar> 32 open bug reports :S 13:37:52 <Darkvater> hmm weren't you already leaving? 13:38:05 <Celestar> I'm waiting for $GF to pick me up 13:38:14 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/166 <= I mean this can be anything 13:38:35 <Celestar> including SBME 13:39:14 <KUDr_wrk> any user action 13:39:24 <Celestar> SBME == single bit memory error 13:39:31 <MiHaMiX> ahh 13:40:11 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:40:38 <Celestar> I had this once. 13:40:46 <Celestar> took me weeks of debugging to figure it out 13:41:12 <MiHaMiX> Celestar: instead of trying with badmem patch :) 13:41:56 *** CIA-3 [i=cia@69.90.211.97] has joined #openttd 13:42:19 <glx> wb CIA-3 13:42:22 <glx> :) 13:44:15 * Darkvater kicks CIA-3 13:44:15 <CIA-3> ow 13:44:19 <Darkvater> ass 13:44:19 <hylje> :D 13:44:39 <Celestar> he he 13:47:15 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:18 *** roboman [i=leojbg@blaax9-b058.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:51:42 * [Shaman] slaps CIA-3 around a bit with a large trout 13:52:35 * Darkvater kicks [Shaman] 13:52:55 <[Shaman]> !!! 13:53:14 <MiHaMiX> /kick [Shaman] don't slap around and don't shout! :D 13:53:18 <MiHaMiX> :D 13:53:40 <[Shaman]> I wasn't shouting 13:53:43 <[Shaman]> just exclamating :( 13:53:47 * [Shaman] goes sob in a corner 13:54:03 <MiHaMiX> poor [Shaman] :) 13:54:08 <[Shaman]> ^^ 13:54:15 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:54:40 <Celestar> man 13:55:05 <[Shaman]> thing 13:55:16 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:39 <Darkvater> swamp 13:58:14 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:40 <Celestar> Darkvater: you got Windows running currently? 13:58:59 <Darkvater> @work 13:59:00 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: ping 13:59:05 <KUDr_wrk> pong 13:59:14 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/155 <= KUDr_wrk can you reproduce this? 13:59:39 <KUDr_wrk> no 13:59:43 <KUDr_wrk> this worked fine 13:59:47 <KUDr_wrk> for me 13:59:52 <KUDr_wrk> ready to close i guess 14:00:12 <glx> works for me too 14:01:33 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: also with 0.4.7? 14:01:52 <KUDr_wrk> hmm 14:01:57 <KUDr_wrk> good question 14:02:04 <KUDr_wrk> it was with trunk 14:03:16 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD70DEB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 14:04:22 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: newstations! 14:04:36 * peter1138 ponders finishing it off 14:04:47 <Celestar> peter1138: what's missing? 14:04:52 <glx> peter1138: I had some problems with freetype-config 14:05:15 <peter1138> Celestar: triggers 14:05:31 <peter1138> and a way to redraw a whole station 14:05:53 <Celestar> peter1138: MarkWholeScreenDirty(); ? 14:05:59 <peter1138> Celestar: too slow ;p 14:06:59 <Celestar> peter1138: span the station rectangle and mark all Tiles that are MP_STATION. 14:07:24 <peter1138> possibly no faster 14:07:43 <peter1138> should be able to mark single rectangle 14:08:02 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:08:12 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: now i have it loaded into 0.4.7 and works fine too 14:08:32 <Celestar> then I close the bug report? 14:08:42 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:10:09 <Celestar> bah map24 sucks 14:10:24 <vondel> then use google 14:10:26 <peter1138> map24? 14:11:09 <Sacro> or just say where from and 2 :) 14:11:17 <glx> Celestar: I just tried #155 savegames with 0.4.7 : no crash 14:11:25 <peter1138> oh 14:11:29 <Celestar> I want to set waypoints :S 14:11:45 <Darkvater> you can (with map24) 14:11:49 <Celestar> how?! 14:11:50 <black_Nightmare> someone mind try join a multiplayer -- I want see if I've figured out the router or still not yet? 14:11:58 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: version and location? 14:12:09 <black_Nightmare> mind pm sacro? 14:13:13 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-105196.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:13:20 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: one way to find out :) 14:13:31 <black_Nightmare> lol 14:13:43 <vondel> Celestar: i meant, use maps.google.com instead of map24 14:14:36 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 14:14:50 <glx> black_Nightmare: what is your server name? 14:15:07 <glx> just to know if I can see it in the list 14:15:31 <black_Nightmare> glx... ugh one second 14:15:34 *** Serotonin_ [n=not@CPE-72-135-2-46.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:15:34 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: yes, i think you can close it 14:15:53 <black_Nightmare> Dragon's server (test) 14:15:55 <black_Nightmare> thats the name ^^^ 14:16:39 <black_Nightmare> server_advertise says its on 14:17:09 <black_Nightmare> glx...sacro says its offline so... meh I think its not going show in the list anyhow 14:17:17 <Sacro> hmm 14:17:18 <black_Nightmare> at least I tried...guess I'll have to look into this a bit more another time 14:17:24 <glx> don't see it in the list :( 14:17:41 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: if you have a bit of time over the weekend, could you have a look at this? http://bugs.openttd.org/task/156 14:19:57 <Darkvater> Celestar: once you have a route it is shown on the left panel. there is something like 'your route -(add middle-point)' 14:20:02 <Darkvater> and you just click on it 14:20:38 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable065.248-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 14:21:05 <Darkvater> 'add stopover' in english 14:21:27 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:18 <glx> Celestar: no assert for #156 with 0.4.7, but I have the assert with current svn 14:23:29 <peter1138> hmm 14:27:24 <[Shaman]> Hm, question about the pathfinding you guys made.. are you using a A* (or variant) per tile, or is it cut up in regions first, before doing the tiles? 14:30:16 <[Shaman]> (ship pathfinding that is :o) 14:30:24 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: hmm i would like to but i don't know anything about ottd ai, sorry 14:30:24 <peter1138> hmm 14:31:06 <KUDr_wrk> Shaman: A* with node = Tile/TrackDir (or Tile/ExitDir), no regions 14:31:32 <KUDr_wrk> Shaman: ships will need regions or something similar 14:33:46 <Noldo> I think using a network of those floating things might be nice 14:33:53 <Noldo> for ships that is 14:34:06 <blathijs> buoys 14:34:15 <Noldo> yeah 14:34:38 <Noldo> I found the letters but they just wouldn't order right 14:34:38 <blathijs> yes, store a graph of buoys in network, and make ships always take paths past buoys 14:34:56 <KUDr_wrk> Noldo: maybe, but i can't imagine the algorithm 14:36:21 <Noldo> it wouldn't be globally optimal, but quite fast with a pseudo realistic touch to it 14:36:55 <KUDr_wrk> Noldo: try it 14:37:24 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 14:40:11 <[Shaman]> [KUDr_wrk]: Shaman: ships will need regions or something similar << Eve online uses A* for their pathfinding, but instead of only calculating solar system jumps (it's a space game :P) they also use constellations and regions when calculating.. i tried mimicing that and you can notice a pathfind going from a few dozen seconds down to 0.2 seconds when you go from 1 side of the world to the other 14:40:19 <[Shaman]> might work as well on ottd :o 14:41:07 <Noldo> [Shaman]: how to do the regioning? 14:41:10 <[Shaman]> eh 14:41:12 <[Shaman]> 8x8 grids? 14:41:18 <[Shaman]> with bigger regions of 64x64 14:41:27 <[Shaman]> you use the regions to find a path 14:41:44 <KUDr_wrk> Shaman: yes, it is well know fact, but who will implement it? 14:42:06 <[Shaman]> If i were that much a hero in C i'd do it :P 14:42:21 <KUDr_wrk> Shama: so do it in any othe lang 14:42:26 <KUDr_wrk> i can rewrite it 14:42:29 <[Shaman]> I made the mimic thing in C# 14:42:38 <KUDr_wrk> if the code will be understandable 14:42:43 <Darkvater> I think [Shaman] is now stuck to coding it 14:42:54 <[Shaman]> C# looks gay compared to C tho :p or other way around depending what language you code xD 14:43:43 <peter1138> heh 14:43:50 <peter1138> i code both... 14:44:06 <[Shaman]> (( We got ourselves a rewriter? :P )) 14:44:07 * [Shaman] hides 14:44:45 <[Shaman]> I'll fire up the lappy and get my code :o 14:44:46 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:44:58 <Darkvater> :) 14:45:11 <[Shaman]> It's got some wierd caching thing though, but that's cuz of something different i was fiddling with 14:45:22 <Darkvater> we had that idea about regions, eg regions(big) = (deep)sea 14:46:32 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:49:36 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:50:03 <[Shaman]> k, got the code, you want it KUDr? 14:50:30 <KUDr_wrk> Shaman: make new topic on forum for it 14:50:38 <KUDr_wrk> we can discuss it there 14:50:51 <KUDr_wrk> and post the code there too 14:50:58 <Tobin> Night all. 14:51:16 <Sacro> night Tobin 14:51:18 <KUDr_wrk> heh, gn Tobin 14:51:40 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:56:30 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:57:47 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit ["kthxbye"] 15:02:08 <Darkvater> damn I'm bored 15:02:18 <Darkvater> and i gotta be here for another 30 minutes :s 15:03:18 <|Jeroen|> get a beer 15:03:36 <Darkvater> funny guy 15:04:05 <|Jeroen|> or are u still at work ? 15:04:19 * peter1138 looks at pipian's unicode ideas 15:04:42 <Darkvater> |Jeroen|: why do you think I'm bored? :) 15:04:54 <|Jeroen|> lol 15:05:18 <peter1138> seems to include newgrf for some reason... 15:05:42 <Darkvater> peter1138: I think he went the way of newgrf-unicode, not freetype/sdl_ttf or some other 15:05:52 <peter1138> Darkvater: well 15:06:16 <peter1138> if you compile my patch without freetype, it supports loading of glyphs from newgrf, heh 15:06:28 <peter1138> but not in the way envisaged 15:06:47 <peter1138> (i added that as it was easy, and there's already a specification for it) 15:07:12 <Darkvater> :) 15:07:25 <glx> peter1138: --static-libs is not valid for my freetype-config 15:07:58 <peter1138> hmm 15:08:00 <peter1138> did i add that? 15:08:09 <glx> in makefile 15:08:14 <peter1138> hmm 15:08:34 <peter1138> don't define STATIC then? 15:08:40 <Darkvater> If Bush opts to overweight technology, intelligence may turn 15:08:40 <Darkvater> out to be one more policy area in which the president is duped by 15:08:40 <Darkvater> someone else's fantasy. Life isn't like the TV show ``24,'' where 15:08:40 <Darkvater> fail-safe equipment can trace every phone call, surveil every 15:08:40 <Darkvater> building, follow and foil every terrorist. 15:08:44 <Darkvater> hehe, how true 15:08:52 <peter1138> oh, it can't be static, hehe 15:08:55 <peter1138> cut & pasto :) 15:09:43 * peter1138 takes that out 15:09:54 <peter1138> glx: guess i didn't notice as i never compile statically 15:09:56 <Noldo> KUDr_wrk: you don't happen to a nice class diagram of yapf :) 15:10:29 <KUDr_wrk> Noldo: i am too lazy - there is enough description in the code 15:11:07 <Darkvater> use rational rose? 15:11:11 <KUDr_wrk> Noldo: and if you know what A8 is about, and know C++, you will understand it easily 15:11:26 <KUDr_wrk> Rational Rose Shit? 15:11:39 <KUDr_wrk> 4 years ago i tried it 15:11:49 <KUDr_wrk> for one project 15:11:53 <KUDr_wrk> fuj 15:12:12 <Darkvater> heh 15:12:14 <KUDr_wrk> heh A8 -> A* 15:12:17 <Darkvater> it works pretty nicely 15:12:26 <Darkvater> but it might choke on your c++ magic 15:12:32 <Darkvater> o which reminds me 15:12:41 <KUDr_wrk> yes, works, but we had lot of problems with their licence server 15:12:54 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: do you know of a way to make a .def file automatically when compiling a static library? 15:13:02 <Darkvater> ooh, i never have such problems *cough* 15:13:39 <KUDr_wrk> .def is for DLLs or not? So why for static libs? 15:14:09 <Darkvater> cause they are exported undecoreatedly and my vs2005 fails to link with them :s 15:14:48 <KUDr_wrk> like missing underscore and '@<number>'? 15:14:52 <Darkvater> yes 15:15:28 <KUDr_wrk> and why they need to be decorated? 15:15:49 <Darkvater> because otherwise I get linker errors in openttd 15:16:02 <KUDr_wrk> still have difficulties to get together static library and export 15:16:18 <Darkvater> had the same probs with libpng and zlib in the past, but those supplied def files 15:16:20 <KUDr_wrk> i must be dumb 15:16:24 <Darkvater> no 15:16:30 <Darkvater> or I'm dumb as well 15:16:43 <Darkvater> which is a possibility 15:16:45 <Darkvater> of course 15:16:50 <Darkvater> we can't rule it out 15:17:09 <KUDr_wrk> you are better - you already dominate the world 15:17:15 <Darkvater> ^^ 15:17:35 <Darkvater> that bush cracks me up 15:17:40 <Darkvater> Congress Vows Hearings on U.S. Phone-Record Collecting Program 15:17:44 <Darkvater> Bush, responding to the outcry, made a hastily arranged 15:17:44 <Darkvater> appearance at the White House where he defended the 15:17:45 <peter1138> Darkvater: maybe you could get cracking on drawing sprites instead ;) 15:17:57 <Darkvater> administration's spying efforts as necessary to fight terrorists. 15:17:57 <Darkvater> He didn't confirm or deny the program, which was reported 15:17:57 <Darkvater> yesterday by USA Today. 15:18:23 <KUDr_wrk> heh 15:18:27 <Brianetta> (: 15:18:27 <Darkvater> peter1138: ugh. I did that (small ones) for some missing glyphs. Took me a week to get tron off my back and finally satisfied 15:18:35 <peter1138> hehe 15:18:54 <Darkvater> ``The privacy of ordinary Americans is fiercely protected in all our activities" 15:19:11 <KUDr_wrk> "shared privacy" 15:19:16 <Brianetta> Who gives a sh*t about Americans? 15:19:17 <Darkvater> :P 15:19:30 <peter1138> hmm 15:19:39 <KUDr_wrk> but they have no problems to accept it 15:19:44 <peter1138> i guess i need to add iconv support for filenames 15:19:55 <Darkvater> peter1138: ./configure --with-iconv 15:19:59 <KUDr_wrk> i know lot of them and they tell "if it must be, why not?" 15:20:03 <peter1138> oh, that's there? 15:20:09 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:20:10 <Darkvater> of course :D 15:20:18 <peter1138> suppose i need to change it to use utf8 instead of latin15 internally, though 15:20:31 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P4a4e.p.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:20:32 <Darkvater> peter1138: just didn't want to put in 0.4.7. Only active for macosx currently 15:20:35 <peter1138> hmm, only for unix 15:20:50 <peter1138> is iconv available on windows? 15:20:54 <Darkvater> that's pretty easy. I have defined the internal charset, so changing that is all you needa do 15:20:54 <peter1138> #define INTERNALCODE "ISO-8859-15" 15:20:57 <peter1138> nice :) 15:21:08 <peter1138> ISO8859-15 though, surely 15:21:19 <Darkvater> it should be. Another static library coming up :) 15:21:25 <Darkvater> no iconv wanted this format 15:21:30 <Darkvater> I think 15:21:30 <peter1138> hmm 15:21:31 <Darkvater> anyways 15:21:33 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 15:21:33 <peter1138> how odd 15:21:34 <Darkvater> I'm off home 15:21:38 <Darkvater> \o/ 15:21:43 <peter1138> have fun 15:21:52 <KUDr_wrk> me too 15:22:00 <KUDr_wrk> bye for now 15:22:04 <peter1138> hmm, we'll need iconv in a few more places 15:22:15 <peter1138> translating old savegames... 15:22:28 <peter1138> mind 15:22:34 <peter1138> that's only in one place isn't it 15:22:58 <glx> peter1138: I have iconv on windows (needed for xgettext) 15:25:47 <[Shaman]> KUDr: Posting :o 15:25:56 <[Shaman]> if it ever uploads the file >_< 15:26:18 <peter1138> hmm 15:26:26 <peter1138> Load_NAME is nice 'n' simple 15:29:13 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tsch??"] 15:29:47 *** Red845 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:12 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181119089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 15:34:45 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:43:17 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691922079.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 15:49:23 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 16:01:20 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:01:50 <MeusH> hey 16:01:57 <peter1138> mr meush 16:03:04 <Sacro> hello MeusH 16:03:09 <MeusH> hello everybody! 16:03:30 <MeusH> did anything interesting happen in last two days? 16:03:34 <hylje> no 16:04:54 <Prof_Frink> The world ended 16:05:18 <MeusH> no! 16:05:25 <MeusH> that's not true 16:05:28 <MeusH> that's impossible 16:05:33 <MeusH> you are not my father! 16:05:37 <peter1138> we restarted it 16:05:39 <peter1138> from a backup 16:05:46 <Prof_Frink> Search your feelings, you know it to be true 16:05:46 <MeusH> oh, that's nice 16:06:01 <MeusH> okay, let me grep them 16:07:19 <Prof_Frink> sudo /etc/init.d/world restart 16:07:43 <MeusH> hmm grep returns nothing 16:07:53 <MeusH> you were right! 16:08:02 <MeusH> now where was backup of my feelings? 16:08:05 <MeusH> on windows? 16:08:07 <MeusH> noo 16:08:24 <MeusH> windows didn't restart after end of the world 16:08:27 <MeusH> I'm doomed! 16:08:36 <Prof_Frink> yes 16:08:45 <Prof_Frink> it was removed because it was too buggy 16:10:43 * MeusH greps his room for Windows 98 Start Floppy Disc 16:11:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh i really hated that disk ;) 16:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> it uncompressed itself in a 2MB ram disk 16:11:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> which was really horrible with a 4MB ram system :p 16:11:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead i found myself a disk that was formatted to 1.7MB 16:12:07 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm128.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has left #openttd ["/me scuttles off"] 16:12:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> and made an uncompressed version of the disk 16:12:34 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P4a4e.p.pppool.de] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.3/2006042618]"] 16:12:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> all hail VGACOPY ;) 16:14:04 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 16:16:48 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has left #openttd [] 16:18:45 <Darkvater> home 16:19:46 <MeusH> hey Darkvater 16:21:18 <glx> peter1138: assertion in gfx.c when news is displayed, is it normal? 16:21:40 <peter1138> apparently ;p 16:21:51 <peter1138> width > 0 ? 16:22:00 <glx> height > 0 16:22:34 <peter1138> fontcache.c:132 & 133 16:22:43 <peter1138> add a max(1, ...) to each 16:24:18 <glx> done, compiling 16:24:49 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:58 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82326.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:26:22 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-208-181.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:29:03 *** Tefad_ [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:18 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:31:22 *** Tefad_ is now known as Tefad 16:31:57 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 16:36:13 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494499A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:07 <glx> peter1138: now it works :) 16:42:09 <CIA-3> miham * r4850 /trunk/lang/ (dutch.txt german.txt hungarian.txt): [WebTranslator2] Updating languages to 2006-05-12 18:40 <<original commitlog lost, bug under investigation>> 16:42:16 *** Neonox_RA [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-174-203.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 16:45:16 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:45:16 *** |MeusH| [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:45:16 <CIA-3> miham * r4851 /trunk/lang/brazilian_portuguese.txt: [WebTranslator2] Updating languages to 2006-05-12 18:40 <<missed a file from last commit>> 16:46:28 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:48:07 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:48:28 *** |MeusH| is now known as MeusH 16:50:55 *** Torrasque [n=jerome@84-74-157-134.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 16:55:58 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:57:16 *** Neonox_RA [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-174-203.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 17:00:28 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-156-127.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:02:30 <glx> peter1138: another question: is it normal that I can't enter accentuated chars (and that these chars are not displayed (?) ) ? 17:03:18 <peter1138> yes 17:03:21 <peter1138> input is not handled yet 17:03:40 <glx> and display from lang file? 17:04:09 <peter1138> lang files need to be converted to utf8 17:04:24 <Bjarni> that should be easy 17:04:28 <Bjarni> btw back 17:04:29 <peter1138> yes 17:04:31 <glx> ok so if I convert french.txt to utf-8 it will work 17:04:33 <Bjarni> I'm finally home again 17:04:34 <peter1138> but out of the scope of my patch 17:04:40 <Bjarni> stupid trains 17:04:45 <peter1138> (because a diff of the changes is larger than the actual file) 17:04:48 <peter1138> glx yeah 17:05:17 <Bjarni> the schedule says one each 20 minutes, I waited 45 minutes and during that time, two trains went through the station without stopping o_O 17:05:56 <Bjarni> peter1138: use iconv to convert the lang files, then it's done in less than a minute 17:06:02 <peter1138> Bjarni: i know 17:06:13 <Bjarni> if you don't know how, then MiHaMiX said that he can do it in less than a minute 17:06:30 <peter1138> Bjarni: but i'm not adding that to my patch 17:06:39 <peter1138> patch of 80KB becomes several MB 17:08:54 <glx> yeah it works better now :) 17:09:57 <glx> I get 2 "Warning, include utf8 sequence" when I start openttd 17:10:04 <peter1138> include = invalid 17:10:08 <peter1138> i can't type messages 17:10:12 <peter1138> but i took that out anyway 17:10:23 <peter1138> latest language 17:10:29 <peter1138> http://195.112.37.102/ottd/utf8-ukr.png 17:11:18 <peter1138> glx: i'm in the process of making a small font 17:11:30 <peter1138> it latin-15 already 17:11:33 <peter1138> +supports 17:11:36 <glx> how ? 17:11:40 <peter1138> and a lot of extra chars 17:11:46 <peter1138> using xmbdfed 17:12:29 <CIA-3> miham * r4852 /trunk/lang/unfinished/ukrainian.txt: Webtranslator2: first utf-8 commit: ukrainian. everything went wrong, but I succeeded to get it through :-) 17:17:05 <peter1138> but still wrong :) 17:17:39 <MiHaMiX> :( 17:17:44 <MiHaMiX> yes, I feared it 17:17:57 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:18:06 <hylje> *BZZT* 17:19:05 <Tefad> *FOOM* 17:19:20 <MiHaMiX> /kick hylje *BOING* 17:21:28 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:42 <hylje> are you sure / is your "command character" ? 17:22:48 <Tefad> heh.. 17:22:59 <Tefad> ./ 17:23:08 <Tefad> \/foo 17:23:09 <Tefad> hmm 17:23:22 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@*.elisa-laajakaista.fi] by Bjarni 17:23:32 <DaleStan> /me wonders why having a line start with a / should imply that / is not the command character. 17:23:32 <Bjarni> tested if / is my "command character" 17:23:39 <Bjarni> it appeared to work 17:23:41 <Bjarni> hmm 17:23:47 <Bjarni> how to unban... 17:24:00 <Tefad> new kernel woot REBOOT. 17:24:02 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*@*.elisa-laajakaista.fi] by Bjarni 17:24:04 <Tefad> (but not this box) 17:24:20 <Bjarni> / works when unbanning as well 17:24:36 <hylje> i believe you should tune your ban scope a bit 17:24:43 <hylje> as it is now you ban whole isps. 17:24:51 <Bjarni> so? 17:25:03 <hylje> pretty good chance of misfiring 17:25:13 <Bjarni> hmm 17:25:24 <Bjarni> it's .fi only, so what do I care? 17:25:27 <Bjarni> :p 17:25:58 * Bjarni sets ban on *!*@*.fi 17:26:02 <hylje> i believe your bans are not restricted on *.fi 17:26:16 <hylje> so if you ban someone else.. 17:26:32 <hylje> anyway 17:26:33 <hylje> -> 17:26:52 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4853 /trunk/lang/unfinished/ukrainian.txt: - Languages: update broken ukrainian.txt 17:27:19 <peter1138> ok, it's good now 17:30:09 <peter1138> heh 17:30:20 <peter1138> truelight is making ttdpatch nightlies now 17:34:17 <Darkvater> ttdp? 17:36:00 <peter1138> yeah 17:36:12 <peter1138> how kind :) 17:36:15 <peter1138> thus make it get extremely hot and\or bright, I'd think. 17:36:15 <peter1138> 18:34 < jon_`> this was just a drill 17:36:16 <Darkvater> please elaborate 17:36:16 <peter1138> errr 17:36:23 <peter1138> http://nightly.ttdpatch.net/ 17:36:28 <Darkvater> ooh for them 17:36:39 <peter1138> well not for himself :) 17:36:40 <Darkvater> I thought making some weird gpmi ttdp nightly 17:36:42 <peter1138> i assume 17:36:44 <peter1138> heheh 17:36:56 <Darkvater> next thing you know we copied nightlies from ttdpatch ;p 17:37:07 <peter1138> lol 17:38:18 <Darkvater> how fucking typical 17:38:33 <peter1138> what? 17:38:34 <Darkvater> my small test of .lib with cdecl/stdcall works 17:38:40 <Darkvater> flawlessly I might add 17:38:41 <peter1138> hmm 17:38:43 <Darkvater> grrr 17:39:03 <peter1138> did you see the ukrainian screenshot? 17:39:12 <Darkvater> text overflow in order window ;p 17:39:30 <peter1138> yeah 17:39:35 *** axadhus [n=mav@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:39:44 <peter1138> but overall 17:39:46 <peter1138> works well :) 17:39:48 <Darkvater> but pretty awesome might I add 17:41:35 <peter1138> hmm 17:41:37 <peter1138> date looks odd 17:42:02 <orudge> Mmm, UTF-8 at last then, is this? :) 17:42:08 <peter1138> yah 17:42:13 <peter1138> none of that utf-16 bollocks 17:42:15 <Darkvater> so I will investigate this a bit further...until then I'm off (~midnightish) 17:42:19 *** chu_ [n=chu@chu.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #openttd 17:42:26 <orudge> Ta ta, Darkvater 17:42:36 <peter1138> (and it's your game, owen, heh) 17:42:40 <chu_> hi 17:42:44 <Darkvater> orudge: you still haven't added up the donations :) 17:42:49 <orudge> ooh, good thinking 17:42:52 * orudge shall do his accounts 17:43:07 <orudge> Heh, I recognise it now actually, peter1138 :) 17:43:07 * Darkvater puts vmware into sleep-mode 17:43:12 <chu_> Celestar: thank you for integrating station sort! 17:43:17 <orudge> Ah, and the whole "Owen Transport Ltd." thing ;) 17:46:18 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:46:30 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:47:39 <peter1138> gives it away, somewhat 17:49:07 * orudge was looking at the Ukranian text :p 17:49:58 <peter1138> :) 17:51:32 <peter1138> ····memcpy(buff, GetStringPtr(STR_0162_JAN + ymd.month), 4); 17:51:32 <peter1138> ····buff[3] = ' '; 17:51:34 <peter1138> oof 17:51:40 <peter1138> it assumes it's 3 characters 17:52:51 * peter1138 changes it to copy chars like the other routines 17:54:10 <chu_> Celestar: there is a tiny bug in the _player_stations_widgets struct 17:54:13 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 17:56:22 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-237-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:01 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:06:31 <chu_> Celestar: i put a report on bugs.openttd.org 18:06:50 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-254-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11:36 <Brianetta> *** AUTOPILOT ENGAGED *** 18:11:36 <Brianetta> Nightly updated. 18:12:41 *** chu_ [n=chu@chu.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de] has left #openttd [] 18:21:23 <valhallazzzw> heh. 18:23:46 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-121-141.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:31:38 <MeusH> cya 18:31:42 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[bbl] 18:33:12 <Brianetta> peter1138: Ping? 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18:56:28 <glx> us coal station? 18:57:30 *** MeusH[bbl] [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:58:50 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:03:22 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 19:04:02 <glx> Brianetta: livestock station seams to not have catenary too 19:04:45 <Brianetta> Just as well! 19:04:48 <Brianetta> Fried beef 19:05:09 <glx> I think I know why this happen 19:13:42 <Sacro> im curious abuot this remakes.org thread, it seems awfully like comparing Unix to GNU/Linux 19:15:40 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:15:46 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:15:57 <peter1138> glx: the default is wrong, i think 19:16:28 <glx> indeed I check if there's a pylon 19:16:43 <glx> but no pylons for coal or livestock 19:18:06 <glx> works better with wires :) 19:18:35 <glx> but the drawing is still wrong cause it puts pylons where we should not have pylons 19:19:48 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:20:30 <glx> peter1138: still station refreshing problems? 19:21:52 <peter1138> not written it yet ;p 19:22:36 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P4a4e.p.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 19:22:36 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:22:51 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:28 <glx> peter1138: I think we need to store pylons and wires bits in map 19:23:43 <peter1138> not enough map, heh 19:23:49 <glx> I know 19:23:57 <peter1138> there will be later, i hope 19:24:06 <Sacro> dont think theres enough cable either 19:24:07 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:24:09 <glx> but elrail.c needs to know where he can place pylons 19:24:19 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:23 <glx> s/he/it :) 19:25:03 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:25:05 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:26:29 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:30 <peter1138> yeah 19:26:54 <peter1138> glx: it can use the slow function for now? 19:27:11 <glx> hmm it needs a new slow function :) 19:28:02 <glx> there's one to detect if we should draw catenary, and one to see if we can place pylon 19:30:06 <glx> but the "can we draw pylon"-function can wait 19:30:29 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.11.160] has quit ["Sleep"] 19:30:55 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4854 /trunk/strings.c: 19:30:55 <CIA-3> - Codechange: don't assume a short format month is 3 characters -- copy the string in the same way the other parts 19:30:55 <CIA-3> are copied. 19:33:03 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:04 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:23 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-230-165.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 19:40:20 <TL|Away> So, TTDPatch has a nightly build too :) Hehe :) 19:40:23 <TL|Away> nice aint it? :p 19:40:44 <peter1138> :) 19:40:57 <TL|Away> bye all :) 19:40:59 <peter1138> shame you need windows / wine to run it... 19:40:59 *** ector [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 19:41:03 <peter1138> ah, bye 19:42:59 * peter1138 ponders a gui-mod for dropdown lists that fall off the bottom of the screen 19:44:05 <SpComb> *kerplonk* style? 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21:03:22 <Sacro> _gass_: they're in the 0.4 releases, but not the trunk 21:03:38 <_gass_> ok 21:03:40 <_gass_> thanks 21:04:35 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:11:27 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:11:38 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:16:18 *** Red845 [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:23:40 *** znikoz [n=1@193.227.251.17] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:24:58 *** _gass_ [n=any@81.84.150.30] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:46:39 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48:36 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4855 /trunk/strings.c: - Fix r4854: Remove 4 character offset, as buff is already in correct place. 21:49:50 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.1.82] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:50:21 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-230-165.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 21:52:18 <Darkvater> KUDr: pong 21:52:46 <KUDr> did you read PM? 21:53:06 <Darkvater> just back 21:53:19 <Brianetta> (: 21:55:11 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-230-165.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 21:55:15 * peter1138 mutters at having to cast "char **" to "const char **" 21:55:17 <Darkvater> peter1138: why don't you use ttd_strlcpy() for r4854? 21:55:24 <Darkvater> peter1138: or ttd_strlcat? 21:55:47 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-230-165.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:56:22 <peter1138> ^^ 21:56:55 <peter1138> what do i give as size? 21:57:05 <Darkvater> size of buff? 21:57:18 <peter1138> i have no idea what size buff is, at this point 21:57:19 <Darkvater> whole strings.c is buffer-overflow-ish 21:57:22 <Darkvater> totally not safe 21:57:26 <peter1138> (it's a buffer overflow haven) 21:57:34 <Darkvater> yeah :S 21:58:36 <peter1138> so i thought about making Utf8Decode return the value, and consume characters itself 21:59:12 <peter1138> should make the code that uses it simpler 21:59:23 <XeryusTC> hi everyone 21:59:39 <peter1138> but it needs a cast for non-const char*s 22:02:12 *** YoG [n=zevele@bzq-88-153-4-216.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 22:03:39 <peter1138> c = *str++; becomes c = Utf8Decode(&str); 22:03:53 <peter1138> but 22:03:54 <peter1138> sleep 22:03:55 <Darkvater> like grf_load_byte 22:04:02 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7C9DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:04:03 <Darkvater> unknown command 22:04:06 <peter1138> heh, i suppose 22:04:32 <peter1138> nini 22:10:32 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:41 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:22:50 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:22:50 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37:12 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.1.82] has joined #openttd 22:37:16 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 22:37:20 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.1.82] has quit [Client Quit] 22:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> [13.05. 00:01] <peter1138> so i thought about making Utf8Decode return the value, and consume characters itself <- shouldn't you then rename it to something like "GetNextUtf8Char" to make clear what it does? 22:38:55 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-218.res.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:40:02 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-234-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:40:23 <Sacro> evening all 22:47:08 <Sacro> someone whose not me has passworded my company 22:47:41 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping 22:47:56 <glx> I think he's gone to sleep 22:48:09 * Darkvater slaps peter1138 awake 22:48:44 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: is sleeping. 22:54:52 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7C9DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 22:55:13 <MiHaMiX> bbl, good night 22:58:28 <Darkvater> gn Ihmemies 22:58:31 <Darkvater> gn MiHaMiX 22:59:09 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-218.res.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [No route to host] 23:00:06 <|MeusH|> goodnight everybody 23:00:08 <|MeusH|> I'm off, too 23:00:10 <|MeusH|> cya 23:00:16 *** |MeusH| [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 23:02:14 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:07:48 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:15:52 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:32:54 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 23:35:54 *** axadhus [n=mav@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:44:26 <CIA-3> glx * r4856 /trunk/newgrf_station.c: - Newstations: catenary was not drawn on some station tiles 23:46:23 <blathijs> gn 23:46:36 <Belugas_Gone> i know someone who is getting addicted to commitage ;) 23:46:40 <glx> gn blathijs 23:46:44 <Belugas_Gone> by blathijs 23:46:47 <Belugas_Gone> +e 23:48:04 <glx> Belugas_Gone: this part was mine so it's logical that I fix it :) 23:48:12 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-121-141.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:48:34 <Belugas_Gone> good work :) 23:55:03 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494499A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["n8"] 23:58:03 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 23:59:05 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:59:54 <Tobin> Morning all.