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00:01:01 <shintah> at first it seemed to be the cpu 00:01:18 <shintah> but now I get out of sync at 60% cpu usage too 00:02:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> they must have gone crazy ;) 00:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> shintah: there may be some odd desync bugs in 0.4.7 00:02:52 <shintah> ok :/ 00:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> try getting the nightly, and check if it is fixed 00:03:08 <shintah> might be that 00:03:16 <shintah> as it have run perfectly good for days 00:03:24 <shintah> and just now started to disconnect me 00:04:07 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: you try yapf in release or debug build? 00:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever it gives when just typing "make" 00:04:59 <glx> it doesn't open a console when you run it 00:05:01 <glx> ? 00:05:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> no 00:05:09 <glx> so release 00:05:27 <glx> but open the ingame console, you will see a lot of debug print 00:05:35 <glx> that use cpu 00:05:43 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a4161f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:05:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, as KUDr hasn't figured out how to use debug instead of printf ;) 00:10:07 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: try with http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/yapf_debug_level.diff 00:12:37 *** Bringa2 [i=Bringa@pD9E2FD95.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:14:28 <UnderBuilder> still no response to my opinion? 00:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... this is strange... 00:17:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> it seems to crash when i activate yapf for road and ship 00:17:31 <glx> but not for trains? 00:18:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> trains is fine 00:19:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> ships is fine 00:19:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> road crashes 00:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> or rather... hangs 00:19:45 <glx> road is not optimised I think 00:21:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... road is kind of a killer task, as the 5 vehicles do not have a path to the target... 00:21:30 <glx> he he :) 00:21:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> and "no path" is like the worst case 00:22:07 <glx> and there's no cost cache for road I think 00:22:27 *** Boes [n=SerriaRo@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 00:22:52 <glx> for train the path cost is cached and updated when track is modified (if I understand well) 00:23:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah 00:23:15 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176118098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:23:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i expected that was not limited to trains 00:23:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> it should use the same code for any kind of system 00:24:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> if it is roads, water, tracks, or even landscape for AI building 00:24:40 <UnderBuilder> still no response to my opinion? 00:24:53 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE476.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:25:05 <glx> UnderBuilder: I can always raise my rating 00:25:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> UnderBuilder: obviously, your opinion does not seem to matter much ;) 00:25:36 <glx> even with 2 towns very close 00:25:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't understand the problem... 00:26:00 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 00:26:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i need to get up early... so good night 00:26:27 <glx> nigh 00:26:31 <glx> +t 00:27:47 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 00:28:03 *** [Hallo] [n=me@141.24.45.251] has quit [] 00:28:09 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 00:28:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> richk needs long for reboot ;) 00:29:22 <glx> maybe he's gone to sleep :) 00:32:52 <Sacro> lol 00:34:07 <Sacro> brb 00:34:10 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-203-170.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 00:37:28 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-203-170.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:37:37 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176113216.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37:56 <Sacro> shame you can't get screen for X 00:41:52 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 00:44:08 *** roboman [n=leojbg@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:46:56 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.117] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:48:19 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:56:15 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:04:42 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 01:08:35 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-47.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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It maybe slow hardware or a slow/bad connection 05:08:01 <Tobin> Well, "desync" sounds like it _might_ be a network issue. 05:08:07 *** Leo_ [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:08:12 <Celestar> yes I know. 05:08:22 <Tobin> It's not unreasonable to think that but people should check before posting. 05:09:32 *** Leo_ [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 05:10:44 <Tobin> What did you see that made you angry about the misunderstanding this time? 05:11:07 <Tobin> Oh, bugs.openttd.org 05:11:35 <Celestar> er what? 05:11:41 <Celestar> no I read the backlog :) 05:11:45 <Tobin> Ah. 05:11:55 <Tobin> I thought you'd seen http://bugs.openttd.org/task/52 05:13:02 <Tobin> Why was the magic bridges forum thread hidden, btw? 05:13:14 <Tobin> I asked Darkvater and he said to ask you. 05:13:43 <Celestar> some communicational problems, it will be re-actived. 05:13:50 <Celestar> activated. 05:14:04 * Celestar puts "make clearer error messages for network" on his todo-list 05:15:23 * roboman never got to see that thread, but he may have seen alot of the important stuff here 05:17:23 <Celestar> ok guys there is now an official category for bridge-branch related bug reports 05:17:37 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2F6EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:17:39 <Celestar> as to identify them from normal bug reports. 05:17:43 <Celestar> USE IT 05:19:27 *** Leo_ [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:19:42 *** Leo_ is now known as roboboy 05:19:57 * roboman goes upstairs 05:19:57 *** roboman [n=leojbg@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["going upstairs to a computer with a more stable conection"] 05:21:48 *** roboboy [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:21:57 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:24:01 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 05:29:59 <Vornicus> stupid question 05:30:29 <Vornicus> why hasn't 32bpp been put into trunk yet? 05:30:46 <ln-> it wasn't that way in the original game. 05:31:07 <Vornicus> you didn't have elrails in the original game either. 05:32:09 <ln-> i know. 05:33:06 <roboman> elrails is a realism thing 05:33:28 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D772.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:33:28 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 05:37:38 <ln-> does anyone have OS/2 Warp 4? 05:51:32 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 05:54:09 <brygge_2> darkvater: are mart3p's 3 patches going to be merged into the trunk? 06:00:28 <roboman> i know parts of his planeset patch have ben merged by peter1138 06:00:39 <roboman> ^been 06:01:16 <brygge_2> yeah i know, but he mart3p has released 2 new pathes 06:38:30 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:42:03 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has joined #openttd 06:55:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B76461.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:03:44 <Celestar> damnit 07:03:55 <Celestar> we need new cars 07:04:19 <Celestar> but what to buy ... hmmz 07:06:13 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:08:49 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 07:09:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77620.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:18:13 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 07:21:09 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 07:21:34 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:22:04 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 07:42:42 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:53:48 <peter1138> hmm 07:54:10 <peter1138> wifi on windowsill : 300-1000 ms 07:54:39 <peter1138> wifi in middle of room on floor : 3-4 ms 07:54:47 <Celestar> ? 07:54:56 <Celestar> what are you trying to say? 07:55:11 <peter1138> my wifi connection sucks this morning 07:55:43 <Celestar> wtf is windowsill 07:56:03 <Celestar> OH! 07:56:10 <Celestar> I was assuming it to be some kinda software 07:56:15 * Celestar bangs head on the desk 07:56:56 <peter1138> lol 07:57:01 <Celestar> hm .. 07:57:01 <peter1138> morning :) 07:57:13 <Celestar> I have 2 floors between my comp and my AP, and I have 1.2ms 07:57:17 <Celestar> good morning (= 07:57:45 <Celestar> with 3 floors in between things start to get ugly 07:58:15 * Celestar things he has some decent access point 07:59:27 <Celestar> ok wrong, I have 1.4-1.6ms on the average 08:01:51 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 08:01:58 <Celestar> CRAP 08:02:01 <Celestar> it took YAST 15 minutes to find out that an installation source is not accessible 08:02:05 <Celestar> maybe the timeout should be set to 5000 milliseconds instead of 5000 seconds?! 08:02:20 <Tron> peter1138: any news regarding _custom_sprites_base? 08:03:02 <peter1138> hmm, thought i'd already removed that o_O 08:03:05 *** mouhez [i=mouhez@on.tiukka.biz] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 08:03:06 <Tron> be glad it wasn't 5000 seconds, because that would be almost one and a half hour 08:03:25 * Celestar thinks time is approprieate for some breakfast 08:04:11 <Tron> peter1138: i see 4 occurrences 08:04:23 <peter1138> i know, it's still there 08:04:44 <peter1138> i've got the tiny patch here too 08:04:45 <peter1138> hmm 08:05:20 * peter1138 recompiles just in case 08:06:31 *** mouhez [i=mouhez@on.tiukka.biz] has joined #openttd 08:07:40 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:13:03 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4917 /trunk/ (newgrf.c oldloader.c): - NewGRF: remove _custom_sprites_base, now used only to rejig vehicle images from ttd games, as we redetermine all vehicle images after game load anyway. 08:19:06 <peter1138> ini: trailing characters at end of setting 'lan_internet' 08:19:07 <peter1138> hmm 08:19:33 <peter1138> bool -> uint8 ?? 08:21:03 <Celestar> ===> Compiling player_gui.c 08:21:03 <Celestar> player_gui.c: In function 'DrawPlayerEconomyStats': 08:21:03 <Celestar> player_gui.c:46: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type 08:21:34 <Celestar> I don't like the sound of this 08:21:42 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:22:01 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:22:43 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:24:48 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181077000.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:28:54 <Celestar> anything we do about that warning 08:28:55 <Celestar> ? 08:32:30 <KUDr> is it on gcc? 08:32:35 <peter1138> gcc 4 08:32:56 <Celestar> yes 08:34:27 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 08:34:38 <peter1138> stupid casts anyway 08:35:20 <Celestar> (gdb) whatis p->yearly_expenses + 2 08:35:20 <Celestar> type = int64 (*)[13] 08:35:20 <Celestar> (gdb) whatis tbl 08:35:21 <Celestar> type = int64 (*)[13] 08:35:33 <Celestar> and WHAT is incompatible about this? 08:36:37 <peter1138> Celestar: http://fuzzle.org/o/tblfix.diff 08:36:52 <peter1138> (should do the same, right?) 08:37:02 <Tron> the warning seems wrong 08:37:13 <Celestar> it appears wrong to me as well 08:37:29 <Tron> if you remove the const from the tbl declaration it goes away 08:37:37 <Tron> but *p is a const Player 08:37:51 <Tron> so p->yearly_expenses is a const int64[3][13] 08:38:19 <peter1138> o_O 08:38:20 <Tron> so a line in this array is a const int64(*)[13] 08:39:57 <Celestar> maybe the const isn't propagated properly? 08:43:21 <Tron> well, build a 5 line test case and file a bug report to gcc 08:43:47 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:44:08 <Celestar> I'm already doing so 08:46:55 <KUDr> hmm i can't get that warning anyway (gcc 4.0.1) 08:47:03 *** joed_ [n=James@CPE-139-168-1-3.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:47:10 * peter1138 has 4.0.3 08:47:39 <peter1138> hmm 08:47:44 <peter1138> actually i don't anymore 08:47:45 <peter1138> i did 08:48:06 <Tron> struct foo { 08:48:06 <Tron> int x[2][10]; 08:48:06 <Tron> }; 08:48:06 <Tron> void f(void) 08:48:06 <Tron> { 08:48:07 <Tron> const struct foo bar; 08:48:09 <Tron> const int (*baz)[10] = bar.x; // should be ok 08:48:11 <Tron> int (*qoox)[10] = bar.x; // should warn 08:48:13 <Tron> bar.x[0][1] = 23; // error: asignment to const 08:48:15 <Tron> (*qoox)[1] = 23; 08:48:17 <Tron> } 08:49:13 <Celestar> http://pastebin.com/727834 08:49:44 <Tron> peter1138: your diff won't work, btw. check the line "tbl--;" 08:50:15 <peter1138> *nod* 08:52:29 <Celestar> is it me, or should the warning be the other round than it is? ;) 08:52:38 * Celestar trashes another attempt at drawing new signals 08:53:18 <Celestar> I need some artist 08:54:11 <roboman> purno drew a set of dutch signals for the dutch trainset including pbs 08:54:29 <Celestar> they don't help 08:55:09 * roboman just realised they probably wouldnt 08:56:21 <guru3> do you reckon porting openttd to the nokia 770 would be viable? 08:57:25 <guru3> haha never mind someone's already doing it 09:01:35 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04:04 <Celestar> why are people calling from Italy to sell me noodles? 09:07:39 <guru3> lol 09:07:58 <guru3> maybe they're really drunk 09:16:03 *** dvoid [n=krawwz@c-4683e255.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:16:05 <dvoid> hello :) 09:17:05 <dvoid> i was doing some coop playing yesterday and damn i missed a marker funcion. is there any? and why not? :D 09:18:48 <Celestar> marker function? 09:18:48 <guru3> signs? 09:19:09 <Celestar> but I know what you mean, like select a location to return to later on? 09:19:41 <dvoid> yea like put a flashing marker on the map so other players can se what you are talking about , like "hay can you build a bussstop here" *flash on map* 09:19:55 <guru3> you can use the tile info 09:19:59 <guru3> and scrollto in the console 09:20:14 <guru3> signs 09:20:18 <guru3> signl ist 09:20:20 <guru3> *sign list 09:20:23 <Celestar> dvoid: post a feqture request :) 09:21:00 <dvoid> guru3: but signs are not as fast used 09:21:16 <Celestar> dvoid: as I said, post a feature request for 0.6.0 09:21:16 <dvoid> would be nice if one could like replicate the mousecursor or something 09:21:20 <guru3> well how would you disinguish between markers 09:21:46 <dvoid> if i want to say "make the track go like this" and then show with my marker 09:21:48 <Celestar> high-end AV receivers cost up to 4000 EUR :S 09:22:00 <guru3> ouch 09:22:16 * Celestar goes to the second model 09:22:19 <Celestar> 1600 EUR 09:22:20 <Celestar> much better 09:22:40 <guru3> lol 09:22:47 <guru3> not if you're poor like me 09:22:50 <Celestar> well. 09:22:56 <Celestar> it's not for me 09:23:03 <Celestar> it's for my sister who's a professions musician 09:23:08 <Celestar> she needs a decent device 09:24:08 * Celestar wonders why Sony lists the number of input with decimal places 09:24:50 <Celestar> it's not that I could have half an optical input, right? 09:26:38 <Celestar> SACD is such a braindead format 09:26:46 <guru3> lol 09:27:33 <Celestar> 5.1 CD with 96 kbit 09:27:37 <Celestar> but only analog outputs 09:27:56 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83C6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:27:59 <Celestar> I mean the fuck WHY? 09:28:01 <guru3> didn't know analog could handle 96kbps 09:28:14 <Celestar> analog doesn't care about sampling rates guru3 .... 09:28:22 <Celestar> analog doesn't KNOW what a sampling rate is 09:28:27 <guru3> i suppose not 09:28:34 <guru3> but still seems odd 09:28:49 <Celestar> it is because of line losses 09:29:02 <Celestar> and the stupid chinch-connectors have high losses as well 09:29:10 <guru3> :s 09:29:15 <Celestar> I wish Home Audio Systems would come with decent connectors 09:29:19 <Celestar> XLR or something 09:29:26 <guru3> i just wish i had speakers :/ 09:29:27 <guru3> and a room 09:29:38 <guru3> so that i could use speakers 09:29:44 <Celestar> http://www.answers.com/topic/xlr-connector 09:30:06 <guru3> that's xlr? 09:30:10 <guru3> old skool 09:30:11 <Celestar> yes 09:30:13 <Celestar> nah 09:30:22 <Celestar> it's the standard in high-end audio devices 09:30:23 <guru3> been around a while 09:30:32 <guru3> tru 09:30:33 <guru3> e 09:30:47 <Celestar> well, there hasn't been much improvement in how to build a plug in the past 2 decades ^^ 09:31:03 <Celestar> I hate plugs that don't firmly LOCK into the socket 09:31:28 <guru3> that's true 09:31:30 <Celestar> like USB for example :S 09:31:32 <guru3> keep tripping over those 09:31:53 <Celestar> well, if you trip, a not-so-firm connection is maybe not bad ^^ 09:32:03 <Celestar> as to not toss devices around the room :) 09:32:39 <guru3> yeah but some of the audio stuff is so heavy >< 09:33:13 <Celestar> hm 09:33:26 <Celestar> 30kg for an amp is nothing unusual 09:33:35 <Celestar> and those things eat up to 600 Watts 09:33:46 <Celestar> ... well you can have that with a cheap Xeon server as well 09:33:48 <guru3> well 30kg of amp 09:33:52 <guru3> will hold you down 09:34:24 <Celestar> destroying 30kg of amp (and 4000 bucks) by tripping over a cable will hold you down as well :) 09:34:32 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 09:34:39 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:34:44 <guru3> potato potahto 09:34:54 <Celestar> nice song :) 09:35:03 <guru3> song? Oo 09:35:13 <Celestar> there's a song about that ... :) 09:35:18 <Celestar> me->gone(); 09:35:22 <guru3> mmm k 09:35:26 <guru3> cu 09:35:35 <Celestar> people TEST THE BRIDGE BRANCH and post problems on the tracker. 09:35:48 <guru3> what's special about the bridge branch? 09:36:05 <[Shaman]> It's speshul 09:47:27 <Darkvater> morning 09:49:30 <[Shaman]> lo 09:49:52 <roboman> is there a compiled exe i can get 09:50:31 <[Shaman]> roboman: http://www.openttd.org/downloads.php 09:51:10 <roboman> i meant for the bridge branch 09:51:48 <[Shaman]> you'd have to compile it yourself. 09:52:02 *** Hallo [n=me@i251.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 09:59:14 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:59:44 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:03:27 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:10:47 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:12:09 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 10:21:20 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54945911.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:15 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 10:32:59 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has joined #openttd 10:41:03 <Celestar> bah 10:41:09 <Celestar> my family is fucking nuts 10:41:51 <Noldo> how come? 10:42:10 <Celestar> I've lost track about who talks or does not talk to whom 10:42:53 <Noldo> what have they done to each other? 10:43:03 <Celestar> that is a good question 10:43:42 <Celestar> I seem to have lost track about that as well 10:45:56 <Noldo> I wonder if they take that as an insult and stop talking to you 10:46:26 <Celestar> not yet. 10:46:41 <Celestar> I'm the only one who doesn't have a blood feud with anyone 10:47:09 * Fujitsu blood-feuds Celestar. 10:47:27 <Noldo> that reminds me that I should play some more King of Dragon Pass today 10:47:44 *** joed_ [n=James@CPE-139-168-1-3.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Client exiting"] 10:48:30 <Celestar> ok food time 10:48:34 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 10:48:52 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176118098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:04:23 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:04:38 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 11:07:43 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 11:11:23 * valhallazzzw stumbles around 11:11:30 * valhallazzzw needs brianetta >:( 11:12:25 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:12:42 * Fujitsu throws a Brianetta at valhallazzzw. 11:13:26 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:13:26 <valhallazzzw> :D 11:16:24 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:25:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:36:17 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:46:59 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:04:12 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:06:34 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:14:21 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E916.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 12:25:07 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:29:09 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:01 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 12:34:15 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 12:36:17 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4716.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:39:54 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E916.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 12:58:40 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE476.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 13:13:01 *** gryph [n=gryph@130.225.245.182] has joined #openttd 13:22:45 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.10.129] has joined #openttd 13:26:12 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 13:32:41 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-185-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:36:12 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-142-107.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 13:36:52 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:38:15 <Sacro> afternoon all 13:38:52 <hylje> morning 13:39:09 <Sacro> hylje: how are you? 13:39:29 <hylje> rather fine 13:39:36 <hylje> waiting for GNOME to compile 13:40:12 <Sacro> hmm, thats a slow process 13:41:00 <hylje> tru 13:41:02 <hylje> -_- 13:42:42 <Sacro> i might sync gnome in a bit, see what its like 13:42:49 <Sacro> ive ditched KDE for XFCE4 13:44:49 <hylje> emerge 82 of 95 of GNOME 13:44:55 <hylje> almost there, yay 13:45:07 *** Boes [n=SerriaRo@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 13:46:08 <Sacro> hehe, it has a LOT of dependancies 13:46:59 <hylje> yes. really. 13:47:01 <roboman> has anyone seen what weeve been doing on briannetas nightly 13:48:31 <hylje> no 13:49:40 <roboman> weve been making planes run out of fuel in the middle of the ocean 13:50:26 <Sacro> hehe, mad 13:50:31 <Sacro> do i still have a company on there? 13:51:29 <Sacro> ooh yay, tis still there 13:51:38 <hylje> planes have fuel? 13:51:51 <hylje> ive seen a plane be in the air for some decades 13:53:38 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:54:09 <Sacro> they crash if you remove the airport they're going to 13:55:14 <hylje> oh no it didnt 14:00:29 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:10:33 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:21:41 <roboman> gnight 14:22:55 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:23:53 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 14:30:05 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 14:31:50 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:35:26 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newstations! 14:35:33 <Born_Acorn> err.. 14:35:38 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 14:35:38 <glx> lol 14:35:43 * Belugas thinks about adding an OnClick event on Widget 14:35:53 <Belugas> you're definitively weird, Born_Acorn 14:37:40 <Born_Acorn> definitively? 14:37:55 <Born_Acorn> Or Definately? 14:38:26 <Born_Acorn> I am the definitive definition of weird. 14:38:27 <Belugas> or hopelessly? 14:38:29 <hylje> >X 14:38:57 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: definatly the definative definition 14:39:10 * Belugas would rather improve his spelling than commit anything today 14:39:51 <Born_Acorn> But if I am definately the definitive definition of being the definitive definition of weird, then who is the definitive definition of cool? 14:40:07 <Born_Acorn> definately. 14:40:22 <Belugas> Or what : South Pole 14:40:43 <Belugas> or... 0 Kelvin ^^ 14:40:49 <Sacro> thats cold 14:41:24 <Belugas> pfffff..... not my day 14:41:39 * Belugas goes silent 14:43:29 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:58:03 <Darkvater> ok let's do some 0.4/ devving 14:58:17 <Darkvater> anyone seen richk around? 14:58:32 <Darkvater> great news everybody :) 14:58:41 <Darkvater> I got twinview+tv-out+mplayer to work again 14:58:45 * Darkvater is very happyt 14:58:46 <Darkvater> -t 14:59:21 <Darkvater> behold! 14:59:22 <Darkvater> export DISPLAY=":0.0" 14:59:23 <Darkvater> mplayer -ontop -cache 4096 -subfont-text-scale 3 -vf expand=0:$expandBy -sub-fuzziness 1 -subpos 80 -osdlevel 1 -subalign 0 -subwidth 100 -stop-xscreensaver -xineramascreen 1 -fstype -fullscreen -fs $AC3 "$@" 14:59:31 <ledow> Yeah, well I just set up Linux motion detection on 4 CCTV cameras... I'm equally as chuffed. :-) 15:00:10 <Darkvater> we're even then ^^ 15:00:32 <ledow> Although that command-line is much more scary than mine 15:00:43 <hylje> spells ! 15:00:51 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83C6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:01:16 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 15:01:26 <Darkvater> the best part is, I grab my laptop, SSH into my PC and run mplayer from here, getting the movie on the tv ^^ 15:01:31 * Darkvater is very very lazy 15:01:37 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 15:01:37 <Darkvater> hi RichK67 15:01:42 <Darkvater> was looking for ya 15:02:21 <RichK67> hi dv 15:02:28 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: ping 15:02:39 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83C6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:03:16 <RichK67> DV: what did you need me for? 15:03:20 <Darkvater> airports 15:03:26 <Darkvater> just looking for the log 15:03:45 <RichK67> ok, (2 known errors - oops!) 15:04:06 <ledow> Darkvater: In the past, I've ssh'd from my laptop into my home machine, port-forwarded a port to a linux server, used that to VNC into that Linux machine and then from there rdesktop into my girlfriends Windows machine. That windows machine is running through the TV and also through our wireless video link and all this to play on MP3'S on speakers that are upstairs in the house! 15:05:15 <RichK67> to all interested: new Mini IN posted (now with Snow in Temperate :) ) 15:05:34 <Darkvater> ledow: so why not tunnel rdp from your linux server to windows and just rdesktop to local? 15:06:03 <Darkvater> you made this awefully complicated 15:06:14 <ledow> It was never intended to do that job at all but for a one-off I did it. :-) 15:07:05 <Darkvater> RichK67: http://darkvater.openttd.org/airport.txt 15:10:44 <RichK67> hmm... ok 15:13:31 <CIA-3> tron * r4918 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Move the information about the size of airports from an global array into the struct which describes an airport 15:14:25 <RichK67> ack - another thing that breaks mini_in! 15:14:55 <Darkvater> 'a global array' ;) 15:15:51 <RichK67> except the info is now more awkward to access for the size highlight... oh well! 15:16:57 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 15:17:22 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:22:24 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 15:22:25 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:23:04 *** Hallo [n=me@i251.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:25:00 <Darkvater> wb Tron 15:35:50 *** Forexs- [n=forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:36:49 <peter1138> definitely 15:41:17 <peter1138> bah 15:41:19 <peter1138> i need a faster pc 15:44:40 <RichK67> DV: text ready - where do you want it? 15:48:12 <Darkvater> somewhere readable 15:48:17 <Darkvater> peter1138: yeah, agree 100% 15:51:45 <RichK67> pm sent 15:54:48 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4919 /branch/0.4/ (npf.c npf.h pathfind.c pathfind.h train_cmd.c vehicle.h): 15:54:48 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4812, r4008, r4110): 15:54:48 <CIA-3> NTP properly checks for railtypes on non-plain-rail-tiles 15:55:06 <Tron> Darkvater: did you merge both bridge related fixes? 15:55:17 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:55:18 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 15:56:08 <Darkvater> Tron: were there any more? Looking through trunk/ I could find only this 15:56:19 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:56:33 <Darkvater> brb 15:56:40 <Tron> this what? 15:57:10 <Tron> Darkvater: r4750 and r4766 15:59:15 <ln-> http://tmbo.org/offensive/images/picpile/i_would_not_put_my_kids_in_this_kindergarten.jpg 16:03:28 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-214-231.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 16:05:05 <hylje> haha 16:06:22 <peter1138> means nothing to me 16:07:02 <ln-> it's not the text, it's the characters 16:07:21 <ln-> .. not characters as in chars, but as in animals 16:07:37 <Tron> this is plain scary... 16:12:56 <Darkvater> Tron: 4750 is done, looking at 4766 16:13:24 <Darkvater> Tron: 4766 was not present in branch/0.4 16:13:48 <Darkvater> peter1138: Happy Tree Friends? :) 16:14:13 <Darkvater> http://mondo.happytreefriends.com/ < just watch one 16:14:16 *** iridium is now known as iridium`nh 16:14:58 <Born_Acorn> I watched em all. 16:15:01 <Born_Acorn> Good times. 16:15:11 <Darkvater> yeah it's pretty sick 16:15:40 <Born_Acorn> And that preschool has used large images. Ho ho ho. 16:19:03 * Vornicus fights with SVN and the mini_IN patch 16:19:48 <RichK67> Vorn - 4918 has broken MiniIN and new airports - im fixing now 16:20:17 <Vornicus> mmmh. actually the problem is that the patch fails on openttd.dsp 16:20:49 <RichK67> ah... M$ - not supported ;) 16:20:51 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.131.72] has joined #openttd 16:22:39 <Vornicus> ah, it's an MSVS file 16:22:40 <Vornicus> okay 16:24:56 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.131.72] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:26:23 * Vornicus is now building the latest mini_IN. 16:29:43 <Vornicus> ...oh, biscuits. 16:30:01 <Vornicus> Dammit, I need to get rid of all non-controlled files in my source tree. 16:30:31 <Magus_X> ((Vornicus)): wow, giveme the link pelase 16:30:32 <Magus_X> please 16:30:36 <Magus_X> of the latest mini_in ;) 16:30:48 <Magus_X> holy shit 16:30:53 <Magus_X> happytreefriends LOL 16:31:00 <Magus_X> i prefer ogrish.com 16:31:01 <Magus_X> ^^ 16:31:24 * Vornicus is working on making it build. ask rich 16:32:34 <Magus_X> [Vornicus]: you are the builder of miniin? 16:33:12 <Vornicus> I make the OSX build. 16:33:24 <Magus_X> hm... 16:33:32 <Magus_X> i will download the latest win32 16:33:42 <Vornicus> Hopefully I won't have to for much longer, mine doesn't seem to work on some other people's computers 16:33:57 <Vornicus> and I can't make universal binaries 16:43:56 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:46:40 <CIA-3> tron * r4920 /trunk/ (industry_cmd.c table/build_industry.h town_cmd.c): 16:46:40 <CIA-3> Remove parameters, which get only used in certain functions, by splitting those functions. 16:46:40 <CIA-3> At least in the case of checking for oil industry restrictions this makes the check conditions more clear. 16:47:54 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:57:19 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:58:33 *** Boes [n=SerriaRo@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 17:00:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 17:06:14 <Darkvater> orudge: :) 17:06:21 <orudge> Hello 17:06:27 <orudge> and yes, I know what you're going to ask ;) 17:06:33 <Darkvater> :) 17:06:34 <Sacro> hello 17:06:41 <orudge> all I'm going to say is "exams" 17:06:45 <orudge> but they'll be done soon :p 17:06:47 <Darkvater> :) 17:07:11 <Darkvater> ladies and gentlemen, you have just witnessed the power of the ':)' 17:08:02 <orudge> :) 17:08:14 <Sacro> :) 17:08:18 <orudge> D: 17:08:40 <hylje> (: 17:11:12 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4921 /branch/0.4/ (5 files): 17:11:12 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4825, r4826, r4829): 17:11:12 <CIA-3> Game crashes when cloning/autoreplace reaches train-limit 17:14:59 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4922 /branch/0.4/terraform_gui.c: 17:14:59 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4827): 17:14:59 <CIA-3> The build-tree window button defaulted to a place-push-button on opening where 17:14:59 <CIA-3> no treetype is selected. 17:15:26 * DaleStan wonders how auto-replace can reach the train limit. 17:15:41 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping 17:16:07 <Darkvater> DaleStan: single-headed to dual-headed or something. ask Bjarni 17:17:30 <ln-> does someone have OS/2 Warp 4 in some format? 17:17:58 <Sacro> me 17:19:09 <ln-> i have 4.52, but it won't run under VMware nor QEMU, and that's annoying. 17:20:07 <RichK67> hi DV 17:20:23 <Sacro> i got 4, not sure what version 17:21:06 <ln-> 4.52 has never been officially released. 17:21:58 <Sacro> lol 17:22:21 <ln-> IBM accidentally had it on their FTP server for some time. 17:22:50 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4923 /branch/0.4/network_gui.c: 17:22:50 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4892): 17:22:50 <CIA-3> Crash when sorting an empty server list. 17:23:38 <ln-> anyway, i'm looking for version 4 now, and i'd be happy to find it. 17:24:11 <Born_Acorn> All of Darkvater's 0.4 work has increased my SVN Digests a lot! 17:24:15 <Darkvater> pppp ppee pppeeeeepp peter1138 17:25:10 <Sacro> :) i got it 17:25:34 <ln-> interesting how the commit messages often describe the opposite of what was really changed. i bet darkvater's commit didn't introduce a crash, but fixed it. :) 17:25:51 <Darkvater> :) 17:27:54 <peter1138> hmm? 17:28:20 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 17:28:27 <ln-> sacro, on cd? 17:28:48 <Darkvater> peter1138: r4859 do you have an example of this? So I can check it for 0.4/ 17:28:59 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 17:30:05 <peter1138> yeah 17:30:48 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newsounds! 17:31:04 <Born_Acorn> (keep wanna say newstations, but thats already happened!) 17:31:29 <peter1138> Darkvater: i don't think it affects 0.4 though 17:31:53 <Darkvater> peter1138: that's why I want to test it but don't know where it is exhibited 17:33:45 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4924 /branch/0.4/rail_cmd.c: 17:33:45 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4906): 17:33:45 <CIA-3> Refresh build vehicle window (if opened) when converting rail depot 17:33:48 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37B78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:27 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 17:35:14 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4925 /branch/0.4/ai/default/default.c: 17:35:14 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4911): 17:35:14 <CIA-3> The AI no longer attempts to build signals under bridges. 17:36:07 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4926 /branch/0.4/aircraft_cmd.c: 17:36:07 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4914): 17:36:07 <CIA-3> Aircraft can now serve as feeders 17:36:42 <peter1138> Darkvater: actually... 17:37:12 <peter1138> Darkvater: you've introduced it was 4919, heh 17:37:29 <Darkvater> :) 17:37:37 <Darkvater> so do you have an example? 17:37:43 <Darkvater> or lemme check 17:37:46 <peter1138> is 0.4.8 getting elrails then? 17:38:19 <peter1138> or did you backport the tpf->railtypes thing for fun? 17:38:32 <Darkvater> nop, it's working on rail-crossings 17:38:48 <Darkvater> peter1138: I needed it for another fix concerning compatible railtypes under bridges 17:39:29 <Darkvater> <@peter1138> Darkvater: you've introduced it was 4919, heh 17:39:33 <Darkvater> does not compute 17:40:34 <peter1138> err, was = in :P 17:41:07 <Darkvater> still road-crossing incompatible railtypes seem correctly handled in 0.4/ 17:41:22 <Darkvater> unless the bug is really present in some weird special case 17:41:44 <peter1138> no, the logic is wrong 17:42:22 <Darkvater> but it works? 17:43:04 <peter1138> i've got a save, but it needs ukrs loaded 17:43:17 <peter1138> let me try to engineer one 17:43:23 <Darkvater> ss? :) 17:47:01 <peter1138> doesn't show much 17:47:15 <peter1138> basically 17:47:20 <peter1138> if the tile is a street 17:47:25 <peter1138> and the railtype matches 17:48:03 <peter1138> then the part before the || is false 17:48:10 <peter1138> so it checks the part after the or 17:48:41 <RichK67> DV: in your comments on airports, you say "I believe we have an airport flag that tells us what flying devices can landat that airport"... any idea what it is, cos for the life of me, i cant find it. (airport_subtype would make sense, but doesnt exist) 17:48:44 <peter1138> GetRailType doesn't assert, it just returns the bits 17:49:05 <peter1138> but in this case it's returning the owner of the road 17:49:21 <Darkvater> RichK67: will look at it in a min 17:49:22 <peter1138> it works if you're the only player, and it's your crossing 17:49:26 <RichK67> ty 17:49:32 <Darkvater> very busy doing lang-merges 17:49:49 <peter1138> assuming tpf->railtypes has normal rail set 17:49:51 <Darkvater> peter1138: ok, will merge it then 17:50:53 <peter1138> should i be watching dr who? 17:51:10 <RichK67> ooo.... cybermen :) 17:51:13 <Belugas> peter1138 : no, tyranny.diff 17:51:18 <RichK67> food up - brb 17:51:20 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:54:12 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- 100,000+ downloads can't be wrong"] 17:54:28 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:56:03 <ln-> Sacro, you have it on cd? 17:56:25 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54945911.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["und wech"] 17:56:28 <Sacro> ln-: iso 17:57:19 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-233-059.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:24 <ln-> ok.. 18:02:45 <Sacro> mmm, gnome'y goodness 18:02:57 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E89E.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:03:25 <CIA-3> tron * r4927 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c road_cmd.c tunnelbridge_cmd.c): Replace 3 big ifs (which regard foundations) by a bit less confusing code 18:03:53 *** dvoid [n=krawwz@c-4683e255.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:04:36 <Darkvater> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/4886 < what am I to do with this? 18:04:44 <Darkvater> 'corrected localecodes' 18:04:50 <Darkvater> does 0.4/ need it?? 18:06:13 <ln-> what's the purpose of 'fixing' them? 18:06:19 <Darkvater> I have no idea 18:06:25 <Darkvater> otherwise I would've decided myself ;) 18:06:41 <ln-> i fear it may have some undesirable side effects. 18:07:31 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-185-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:07:58 <ln-> what happens if you are using a locale which is not one of the 'fixed' ones, will you get english or what? e.g. de_AT. 18:08:14 <ln-> (deutsch, austria) 18:08:39 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P6d75.p.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 18:08:41 <ln-> in which case 'de' would be the desired language. 18:08:46 <Tron> yay, even more cases in which the foundations are drawn wrong 18:09:46 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-208-203.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 18:10:21 *** johnny83 [n=chatzill@P6d75.p.pppool.de] has left #openttd [] 18:10:41 <CIA-3> belugas * r4928 /trunk/newgrf.c: 18:10:41 <CIA-3> CodeChange : Rename functions referring to "Vehicle" for "Feature". 18:10:41 <CIA-3> Mainly because newgrf deals with more than just vehicles. 18:15:33 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81EC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:15:56 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B81EC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:18:33 <Sacro> ahh, laptop in kitchen 18:20:45 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:21:56 <White_Rabbit> hey 18:22:44 <peter1138> Tron? 18:23:04 <White_Rabbit> no, that's not me 18:23:22 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3FFAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:23:22 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181112202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:57 <Born_Acorn> peter1138. you should have watched Dr Who. 18:27:00 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 18:28:01 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:29:52 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:30:06 <Brianetta> Who did basic_platformsw.grf? 18:31:27 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B83C6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:31:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83C6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:31:57 <White_Rabbit> Cornelius 18:32:04 <White_Rabbit> but they're part of PGS too 18:32:11 <Brianetta> AH, right 18:32:13 <Brianetta> I have PGS 18:32:16 <Brianetta> so I can remove that 18:32:38 <Brianetta> ukwaypointsw.grf was peter1138 18:32:42 <Brianetta> and somebody 18:33:02 <Brianetta> Since he's the one insisted I have it, I'm assuming permission to make available on my page (: 18:34:20 *** Ibigoo [i=Ibigoo@82-77-102-185.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 18:34:25 <Born_Acorn> I am the somebody! 18:34:31 <Ibigoo> hi there 18:34:35 <White_Rabbit> hi 18:34:58 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181077000.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:35:32 <White_Rabbit> you shouldn't use platformsw.grf from Aegir's 'official' download site, Brianetta...the old basic_platformsw.grf from the old PGS site is so much better 18:35:46 <Born_Acorn> Expect a new version of UKWaypoints soon. 18:36:11 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:36:13 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:36:16 <Brianetta> White_Rabbit: I hav the long named one 18:36:51 <Brianetta> Basically, I'm removing all grfs form my nightly for which I have no license to redistribute 18:37:05 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.140] has joined #openttd 18:37:31 <Tron> there are more license manics out there like Michael Blunk? 18:37:41 <Brianetta> I don't even want to know 18:37:47 <hylje> yes 18:38:05 <Brianetta> I believe I have a Blunck set 18:38:17 <Brianetta> but I am adhering to the guidelines in the readme 18:38:38 <Born_Acorn> That says you can redistribute as long as its with the readme, I think. 18:38:40 <Tron> "if you don't want your stuff distributed DON'T PUT IN ON TEH FUCKING INTARWEB!" 18:38:42 <Brianetta> yes 18:38:57 <Brianetta> Tron: The law is on the side of the creator, though ): 18:40:18 <UnderBuilder> I think that the local autority in OTTD sometimes hurts. For example when there are two cities near is impossible raise ratings on one of them 18:40:40 <UnderBuilder> or in a big city 18:40:52 * Brianetta removed bare_tiles.grf 18:41:09 <Brianetta> Invisible station squares suck like a black hole 18:41:19 <Darkvater> whohoo 18:41:19 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4929 /branch/0.4/lang/ (17 files): 18:41:19 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r's and lots of it): 18:41:19 <CIA-3> Language changes. It seems no strings are missing, good job translators :D 18:41:27 * Belugas plans a cities merging patch 18:41:38 <hylje> yay for merging cities 18:42:16 <Sacro> merging citys FTW 18:42:18 <White_Rabbit> wait, actually, bare tiles doesn't just have invisible station tiles, but also introduces 'naked' rail as a station 18:42:24 <White_Rabbit> which can look good in certain situations 18:42:33 <hylje> what about shrinking and splitting cities too 18:43:11 <Brianetta> White_Rabbit: That's also in another grf, because it's still an option 18:43:31 <Brianetta> but an invisible non-rail tile int he middle of a city sucks for player and competitor alike 18:43:36 <White_Rabbit> which one? 18:43:40 *** Hallo [n=me@i251.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:44 <Brianetta> White_Rabbit: No idea which one 18:44:02 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4930 /branch/0.4/pathfind.c: 18:44:02 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4859): 18:44:02 <CIA-3> Fix issue with train pathfinding over level crossings. 18:44:43 <White_Rabbit> afaik, there was only one with bare rails 18:45:01 * Brianetta shrugs 18:45:39 <Born_Acorn> I can see how bare rails could be happy. 18:45:43 <Born_Acorn> good even. 18:46:18 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=445603#445603 < thoughts 18:48:21 <SpComb> boo 18:48:25 <hylje> oob 18:48:34 <SpComb> boon 18:49:15 <hylje> what really happens when someone quits freenode with the message "Success" 18:49:27 <SpComb> try it? 18:49:51 <hylje> no 18:50:16 <Belugas> Darkvater : 4753 for sure 18:50:19 <hylje> its an ircd quit message, it doesnt have the "Quit:" in front of it 18:50:42 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["success"] 18:50:48 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:51 <hylje> or here it appears its just "quoted" 18:51:27 <SpComb> yeah... 18:57:46 <Tron> Darkvater: 4766? 18:58:13 <Darkvater> Tron: the bridge-speed-limit? 18:58:17 <Darkvater> it's not present in 0.4/ 18:58:31 <Tron> what? 18:58:45 <Darkvater> -Fix: Vehicles on a sloped tile under a bridge were affected by the bridge speed limit 18:58:58 <Darkvater> this bug is not present in 0.4/ so no need to backport it 18:59:08 <Darkvater> I tested it about two weeks ago 18:59:16 <Tron> i wouldn't have marked it as -Fix if it wasn't there 18:59:35 <Darkvater> I am sorry but it really didn't exhibit there 18:59:54 <Darkvater> I had sloped rails with a TIM under 4 consecutive wooden bridges 19:00:04 <Darkvater> and it sped below them at 160km/h 19:00:08 <Darkvater> not slowing down 19:00:53 <White_Rabbit> I haven't used the default vehicles in a very long time...do TIMs really only go at 160km/h? 19:01:05 <Darkvater> I donnu what it was, about 160 19:02:04 <White_Rabbit> well, the default trains tend to be ridiculously slow...a Ginzu goes at 128km/h 19:02:27 <Tron> Darkvater: ftp://tron.homeunix.org/bug.png 19:02:36 * Sacro only understands mph 19:02:40 <White_Rabbit> no, the TIM goes at 241km/h 19:03:28 <Darkvater> ah slopes like that... 19:03:31 * Darkvater will test again 19:03:35 <Darkvater> brb 19:03:47 <Tron> are there other slopes than the sloped ones? 19:03:47 <Sacro> hmm, Eurovision again 19:04:19 <Ibigoo> by all, good night 19:04:22 *** Ibigoo [i=Ibigoo@82-77-102-185.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has left #openttd [] 19:05:44 <White_Rabbit> hm, I wonder if Pikkabird took the Eurostar straight from the Asiastar and added a second company colour 19:07:04 <Tron> Darkvater: hm, no exclamation marks, do you mean question marks? 19:07:42 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.131.72] has joined #openttd 19:07:53 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@64.237.131.72] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:09:38 <White_Rabbit> argh! why are the industrial stations gone from your nightly, Brianetta? 19:09:53 <White_Rabbit> they were the most popular ones 19:12:15 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:12:42 <UnderBuilder> nobody responses to my question? 19:13:29 *** e1ko [n=31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 19:18:37 <Belugas> what was the question? 19:19:22 <Tron> Celestar: ? 19:21:17 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-113.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 19:24:14 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-138.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:24:32 <UnderBuilder> I think that the local autority in OTTD sometimes hurts. For example when there are two cities near is impossible raise ratings on one of them 19:24:33 <UnderBuilder> nobody responses to my question? 19:24:37 <UnderBuilder> sorry the last 19:24:46 <UnderBuilder> or in a big city 19:25:03 <Belugas> Mmm.... I see a comment, not a question 19:27:51 <Sacro> yeah, me too 19:28:02 <UnderBuilder> sorry I mean opinion 19:28:08 <Sacro> UnderBuilder: if its a question, end it with '?' 19:29:00 <Belugas> Coule end with a "?", but would have words lile "Why", "How", "When", "Is it possible"... 19:29:33 <Brianetta> White_Rabbit: They aren't supposed to be 19:29:34 <Belugas> s/Coule/Could 19:36:48 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has quit ["reboot"] 19:37:06 * Vornicus sees no question 19:37:37 <peter1138> urgh 19:37:46 <peter1138> this eurovision song is terrible 19:37:56 <Sacro> hehe, join us in #eurovision 19:39:15 <UnderBuilder> I think that the restrinctions of the local autority should be less, so you always can build a railstation, and all the buildings should require a maximum of 'good' ratings 19:39:17 <vrak> s/song// -.- 19:39:37 <vrak> s/this// too 19:40:04 <Vornicus> if you can't increase the rating of a town at all, there's no room in the town to build a station anyway. 19:42:02 <Belugas> I think the local autority should not be removed. If it is low, it's mainly because you've behaved badly around. 19:42:42 <Belugas> Everybody complains about the game been too easy. Why remove a level of difficulty? 19:42:54 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.10.129] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 19:43:24 <Belugas> You have to wait until you can actually build something on that town, or bribe them :) 19:43:48 <glx> or build trees 19:43:53 <Vornicus> yey trees 19:43:59 <hylje> yes mass trees 19:44:43 <Belugas> or only a timy little buss station and keep on visiting it 19:45:12 <glx> rating should be good enough to build bus station :) 19:45:42 <Sacro> yeah, but sometimes you get so low you cant even build a station to get it higher, and theres nowhere left to plant trees? 19:46:04 <UnderBuilder> sacro: I mean that 19:46:08 <White_Rabbit> bulldoze all trees 19:46:13 <White_Rabbit> you cannot have your rating go lower 19:46:21 <glx> that's true 19:46:39 <glx> and then you can plant new ones 19:47:07 <White_Rabbit> and also good way to make your opponents anger the LA by planting trees where they're building tracks ;) 19:49:12 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E89E.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:49:32 <mikl> I wonder why all the LA are tree-huggers 19:50:18 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-208-203.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:50:27 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 19:50:58 <UnderBuilder> <Sacro> [...] and theres nowhere left to plant trees? <----- I mean that is the doomish part 19:51:45 *** Gregg_Daemon [n=Gregg@mar92-5-82-226-127-245.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:49 *** orudge [n=orudge@res05-ocr2.res.st-and.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:52:54 *** Gregg_Daemon [n=Gregg@mar92-5-82-226-127-245.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 19:53:08 <Vornicus> the LA are treehuggers because trees hide all that ugly construction and stuff 19:53:32 <hylje> mass more trees 19:54:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 19:56:13 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 19:56:55 <UnderBuilder> when I make the bug posted in http://bugs.openttd.org/task/154 and start the train in question, the game crashes, I guess that us must know that 19:57:20 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:57:30 <UnderBuilder> but that bug was fixed =) 19:57:44 <UnderBuilder> (fixed in what revision?) 19:59:16 <UnderBuilder> don't worry, I see it 20:00:06 <UnderBuilder> but I have r4890 and the bug is still there =S 20:01:45 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02:03 <Vornicus> try the latest. we're currently up to 4930 20:02:53 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:03:48 <Tron> UnderBuilder: provide a savegame where it happens 20:05:11 * Vornicus fddles with terrain generation options, finds a very strange game... 20:06:20 <RichK67> back... hi guys 20:06:22 <Vornicus> it's a 256x256 map, with three smallish islands and a whole bunch of tiny islands 20:08:51 <RichK67> Darkvater ping 20:09:15 <Vornicus> Rich, is there a way to determine the seed of a tgperlin game after you've started? 20:09:44 <RichK67> if it was the last thing you did (no reloads), then yes 20:10:09 <Vornicus> okay, how? 20:10:19 <RichK67> abandon the game, go into the scenario editor, and go to create a random terrain... 20:10:31 <RichK67> it should still have the same seed 20:11:10 <Vornicus> cool. 50065, very flat, high water, very rough. 20:11:57 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B837D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:47 <Vornicus> you should get three islands 20:12:55 <RichK67> cool - 3 islands and some barrier reefs ;) 20:13:11 <Vornicus> indeed. 20:13:23 <Vornicus> And on my game the three islands are absolutely crammed 20:13:25 <RichK67> is this MiniIN 4917? 20:13:45 <Vornicus> 4593; I can't get 4917 to build because I can't figure out how to clean out my SVN working copy 20:14:11 <RichK67> check out a new one is usually easiest :) 20:14:37 <Vornicus> and patch doesn't yell when you patch a file that should be empty/nonexistant at the start, but does yell when you patch a file that should be empty/nonexistant at the end. 20:15:22 <ln-> lordi 20:15:25 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:16:11 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4931 /branch/0.4/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: 20:16:11 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4766): 20:16:11 <CIA-3> Vehicles on a sloped tile under a bridge were affected by the bridge speed limit 20:16:14 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:16:21 <Darkvater> Tron: I was thinking of sloped tiles on foundations, sorry 20:16:34 <Darkvater> RichK67: yes, have time now to read PM in detail 20:16:50 <RichK67> ty 20:17:46 <Tron> Darkvater: they are affected, too 20:17:53 <RichK67> DV: ive done almost all the changes you asked for - except new gui (want more feedback), and i need the station subtype variable that indicates what type of airport it is... is it "facilities"?? 20:18:11 <Darkvater> Tron: yes but not when the foundationed-tile is level, which I tested :) 20:18:30 <RichK67> that will allow me to sort out the "cannot build aircraft at heliports" problem 20:18:35 <Tron> facilities is a bitmask of present station types (airport, bus stop, truck stop, dock, railroad station, buoy) 20:19:03 <Darkvater> RichK67: pm 20:19:16 <Vornicus> http://vorn.dyndns.org/~vorn/ottd/cram.png 20:19:21 <RichK67> hi tron - do you know if there is an indicator in the airport station struct to show if it is helis only? 20:23:03 <Tron> well, the only info of this kind i know about is in the finite state machine 20:23:41 <Tron> if it has a state of type HELILANDING then helicopters can land 20:23:50 <Tron> if it has a state with LANDING then planes can land 20:24:29 <RichK67> apparently there is an item in the airport struct "acc_planes" which matches to the vehicle subtype :) 20:27:02 <Tron> so, what's your question then? 20:30:08 <RichK67> problem solved , thanks 20:30:41 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:32:48 <Tron> UnderBuilder: i suppose this was false alarm and the problem isn't there anymore 20:36:10 * Vornicus solves his checkout problems, maybe. 20:39:57 <RichK67> btw, tron - good work on moving the airport sizes into the airport struct, much more logical. i was worried of effect on new airports, but the conversion was easy 20:41:02 <Darkvater> this stuff has lingered for a long long time. I was planning to unify and externify it to addon files, but never got around so didn't touch :) 20:41:31 <Tron> no... what's that? 20:41:48 <Tron> why did you place GetTileMaxZ() in tunnelbridge_cmd.c? 20:43:47 <Darkvater> cause it's only used there, it's only for 0.4/ and have put all the other added getters in there 20:44:24 <Tron> why the extra complication? 20:44:33 <Tron> what if there's another fix which uses it? 20:44:46 <Tron> a simple merge would've been less work for you, too 20:45:03 <Tron> i don't understand this 20:45:12 <Darkvater> perhaps..it was in tile.c/h right? 20:45:13 * Vornicus also eyes this game 20:45:28 <Vornicus> where on earth do I start? 20:45:40 <Tron> yes, it belongs in tile.[ch] 20:45:43 <Tron> what's the matter? 20:47:06 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.140] has quit [" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 20:47:21 * Vornicus also grabs the grfs and puts them into the data folder so make builds them in 20:48:56 <Tron> grf files are not compiled into anything 20:49:19 <Vornicus> They're built into the OSX bundle 20:49:31 <Vornicus> which is what I'm building 20:50:03 *** Ibigoo [i=Ibigoo@82-77-102-185.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 20:50:04 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:50:06 <Tron> that's a bug. a misfeature at best 20:50:07 <Ibigoo> hi there 20:50:28 <Celestar> Darkvater: so we can remove openttd.ds[pw] files? 20:50:44 <Darkvater> hi Ibigoo 20:50:46 <Darkvater> Celestar: no 20:50:57 <Celestar> why not? 20:50:58 <Darkvater> Celestar: yapf isn't merged, until then they're perfectly valid 20:50:59 <Belugas> Celestar : no 20:51:00 <Vornicus> Tron, the point is so you can copy the application bundle alone and get a working game 20:51:01 <Belugas> please 20:51:12 <Celestar> Darkvater: apart from the fact that they contain loads of trailing whitespace? 20:51:15 <Vornicus> ...that you need the extra stuff from the original sucks, though 20:51:16 <Celestar> Belugas: ? 20:51:29 <Darkvater> Celestar: doesn't matter, VS6 does that..fucktard program 20:51:34 <Tron> Celestar: how can they contain trainling whitespace? 20:51:41 <Tron> there's a script which prevents this 20:51:55 <Darkvater> it's added as windows-endline file that circumvents it 20:51:59 <Belugas> I use MSV6 20:52:01 <Darkvater> that's how KUDr did it :) 20:52:12 <Tron> uh... WTF?! 20:52:29 <Darkvater> r4746 20:52:32 <Tron> every single text file in the repo is supposed to be of svn:eol-style native and NOTHING ELSE 20:52:36 <Darkvater> Property svn:eol-style changed from native to CRLF 20:53:16 <Celestar> because MSVS6 deliberately adds trailing whitespace according to some random scheme 20:53:18 <Darkvater> Tron: I think for the time being openttd.dsp can be left CLRF. VS6 has this nasty habit of adding trailing spaces to the file whenever you change it. I talked it out with KUDr and decided to leave it at that 20:53:34 <Tron> it wasn't CRLF for 4746 revisions 20:54:01 <Darkvater> I always edited it by hand. Seems some people are not that handy. Doesn't matter though 20:54:02 <Belugas> Further more, only Windows (CRLF) uses MSV6 20:54:11 <Tron> nobody mentioned this problem for 4746 revisions 20:54:19 <Celestar> Darkvater: it SUCKS 20:54:30 <Darkvater> Belugas: you shouldn't put up such a fight though. When yapf is in, vs6 is out 20:54:36 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-48-88.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 20:54:59 <Belugas> well... i'm not a fighter, but a lover... Give me time to adjust ;) 20:55:22 <Tron> Celestar: something is fishy in elrail.c:219 20:55:23 <Celestar> ;) 20:55:28 <Vornicus> oh, and the latest svn's make release fails on Mac; it looks for README_if_game_crashed_on_OSX.txt in docs but that file doesn't exist 20:55:33 <Celestar> Tron: trunk that is assume? 20:55:40 <Tron> yes 20:55:43 <Darkvater> Belugas: get up to speed and DL vs2005+windows SDK 20:55:56 <Celestar> line 219 is empty for me? 20:56:33 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r4932 /branch/0.4/ (tile.c tile.h tunnelbridge_cmd.c): - Codechange: (r4931): move GetTileMaxZ to tile.[ch] instead of lingering it in tunnelbridge_cmd.c. Might be needed some day for some other backport commit (Tron). 20:56:58 <Tron> Celestar: 218 then 20:57:06 <Belugas> Darkvater : I have it at home. Can they both coexist? 20:57:18 <Darkvater> Ibigoo: any luck with grf-coding? ;) 20:57:23 <Darkvater> Belugas: of cousre 20:57:29 <Darkvater> I have VS6, VS2003 and VS2005 here 20:57:33 <Belugas> that is the only thing stopping me getting rid of it 20:57:46 <Darkvater> although I must admit, VS6 only on my USB stick, but works just the same :P 20:57:50 <CIA-3> celestar * r4933 /branch/bridge/ (64 files in 5 dirs): Sync with trunk up to r4931, apart from openttd.dsp, because it contains trailing whitespace 20:58:00 <Darkvater> all have their own directories seperated so there is no problem whatsoever 20:58:02 <Celestar> Tron: looking 20:58:11 <Tron> Celestar: the comment in 217 and the code in 218 deviate 20:58:25 <Celestar> Tron: yes I noticed. 20:58:43 <Tron> Celestar: also the executed code in the then part is exactly the opposite of one part of the condition 20:59:46 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:59:48 <Tron> Celestar: also considering the next few ifs this looks like there should be a switch on the tile type 21:00:07 <Belugas> ok, thanks Darkvater 21:00:37 *** gryph [n=gryph@130.225.245.182] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:01:54 <Darkvater> Belugas: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24969 21:02:30 <Ibigoo> Darkavter: I read the tutorials yet :) 21:03:33 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:03:33 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 21:03:36 * peter1138 yawnsa 21:03:44 <Darkvater> is that a newsound? 21:04:13 <peter1138> do-do 21:04:45 <CIA-3> celestar * r4934 /trunk/elrail.c: -Fix: Correct a misleading comment, and remove an unneeded condition from the corresponding if (thans Tron for pointing it out) 21:05:24 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:05:31 * Celestar thinks Munich has the most braindead Mayor that ever existed on this planet 21:05:33 <Tron> Celestar: did you see my last comment? 21:05:40 <Celestar> Tron: now, yes :) 21:05:44 <Darkvater> ok I think I needa go to sleep 21:05:52 <Darkvater> so you sometime tomorrow evening 21:06:23 * peter1138 commits Darkvater 21:06:25 <peter1138> ls -l 21:06:29 <Belugas> I'm going home. My f****** working day is over :) 21:06:39 <peter1138> it's saturday, you fool 21:06:39 <Belugas> Bye all 21:06:45 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:06:57 <Celestar> this whole foundation idea is stupid. 21:07:10 <Celestar> we finally need to store ALL FOUR CORNERS of a tile :S 21:07:23 <Tron> it's just not consistently designed and implemented 21:07:31 <Belugas_Gone> peter1138 : no kidding??? I REALLY did not noticed. grrrrrrr 21:07:39 <Belugas_Gone> gone 21:07:52 <Celestar> nite Belugas_Gone 21:08:05 <Celestar> Tron: is that some attempt at British Understatement? 21:08:38 <Vornicus> "this foundation idea is stupid" - which one? 21:08:43 <Celestar> hr hr some News Headlines really rock: "Hell Freezes Over: Dell Goes AMD" 21:08:46 <Ibigoo> adieu Gentlaments 21:08:48 <Ibigoo> good night 21:09:03 *** Ibigoo [i=Ibigoo@82-77-102-185.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 21:24:51 *** Sacro__ [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-180-138.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:25:37 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-155-138.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:25:41 *** Sacro__ is now known as Sacro 21:27:27 * Vornicus decides that starting with a fleet of oil tankers sounds good. 21:27:48 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181112202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:30:20 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:31:40 <Sacro> hmm, maybe 21:33:00 <Vornicus> only 11 tankers to service this one oil well! 21:33:20 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:35:56 * Celestar thinks he should find is "realistic_ships.diff" 21:36:09 <Celestar> they were ... larger 21:36:36 <RichK67> phew - finished my reply to DV 21:36:43 <Celestar> concerning? 21:36:48 <RichK67> new airports 21:36:51 <Celestar> ah :) 21:36:53 <RichK67> ive done most changes 21:37:04 <Celestar> that sounds promising 21:37:27 <RichK67> there is a graphic glitch (its the nose of plane disappearing into tarmac one) 21:38:05 <RichK67> i think that is not my airports code, but a generic graphic glitch 21:38:16 <RichK67> foundations related?? 21:39:25 <RichK67> any ideas? 21:39:25 <Celestar> yeah 21:39:27 <Celestar> it is 21:39:43 <RichK67> so am i let off having to bugfix that one?? ;) 21:40:54 <RichK67> DV has not mentioned about losing the district airports... is this still going to happen? 21:41:33 <Celestar> you cannot bugfix it that easily 21:43:31 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:44:24 <RichK67> Celestar: is it possible to have a Mini IN branch created, so I can better control my updates to/from it? (ie. I can upload, but everyone else can only download) 21:45:11 <Celestar> RichK67: yeah it's possible 21:45:13 <Tron> RichK67: the bounding boxes of planes on the ground are way too small 21:45:17 <Tron> that's the problem 21:45:23 <Celestar> RichK67: but not today please :) 21:45:26 * Vornicus would love it if the compile farm handled the build of it, too, because his build is known to not work in some places 21:45:35 <Tron> so the pixels of sprites (ground and plane) may overlap 21:45:41 <Tron> but the bounding boxes don't 21:45:42 <Celestar> ... 21:45:48 * Celestar thinks we need dynamic BBs :S 21:45:55 <Vornicus> bbs? 21:46:00 <Tron> the sort order sprites to be drawn is determined by the bounding boxes 21:46:00 <RichK67> tron: thanks... as long as it aint my fault ;) 21:46:17 <Celestar> Vornicus: Bounding Boxes 21:46:19 <Vornicus> ah 21:46:24 <Vornicus> yes, that would help 21:46:29 <Tron> Celestar: i have no idea what a dynamic BB would be, but correct BBs are totally sufficient 21:46:31 <peter1138> hmm, ukrs maglev 21:46:40 <RichK67> Celestar: thanks, a Mini IN branch would be a great help 21:46:46 <Celestar> Tron: "dynamic" as in "not hardcoded into the grf" 21:46:59 <RichK67> lol - what ukrs maglev ;) 21:47:03 <Tron> there's not BB information in the grf 21:47:28 <Celestar> so what prevents us from repairing that problem then? ;) 21:47:35 <RichK67> peter1138: its only mail, passengers & goods. useless for heavy freight 21:47:41 <peter1138> RichK67: and? 21:47:42 <Tron> somebody needs to check if there are side effects 21:47:48 <peter1138> actually valuables would be nice 21:47:56 <Tron> maybe a larger BB could cause problems with hangars 21:47:56 <peter1138> but i don't fancy carrying coal 21:48:09 <Tron> (maybe, i don't know, i never tested it) 21:48:12 <Celestar> Tron: talking about side effects, do you have some bug lists for the bridge branch? 21:48:22 <peter1138> Celestar: if it was in the grf, it wouldn't be *hard* coded ;p 21:48:28 <Celestar> lol 21:48:41 <Tron> Celestar: not right now, but i should know some problem, which aren't mentioned in the bugs file 21:48:47 <Celestar> because body temperature rises over 37°C again today. 21:49:06 <Celestar> Tron: just post in in the tracker please? I'll have some bugfix time tomorrow ... 21:49:28 <Tron> when i remember the problems 21:49:31 <Celestar> or dump the whole file somewhere where I can read it :) 21:49:37 <Vornicus> richk67: who made the nice towns patch? 21:49:40 <RichK67> Vorn: Truelight has modified the compile farm to handle the miniIN, but its manually triggered. give it a couple of weeks, and im sure we'll have a front end and nightly builds 21:49:49 <Celestar> Tron: actually the bridge branch solved on AI assert ;) 21:49:52 <Vornicus> woot 21:50:14 <Celestar> s/on/one 21:50:24 <RichK67> hmm... town growth.... 21:50:42 <Vornicus> because, man, these towns are nice. :) 21:51:41 <peter1138> bah 21:51:47 <peter1138> upgrading to maglev is a bitch 21:52:29 <RichK67> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21557 i think its either scrooge or dalestan 21:52:51 <Celestar> Tron: I hope I have ironed the biggest problems with bridges. However, I'm rather useless at designing signals that fit under bridge :S 21:53:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the transrapid can be refitted to valuables, too. (i believe) 21:53:35 <Celestar> I'm considering "hanging" them somewhere :) 21:55:10 <RichK67> the patch is called town_growth_finale.diff but i cant find the link 21:56:10 <Vornicus> sweet. 21:56:20 <RichK67> LOL 21:56:21 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a particular reason why most of the mini_in patches are not in trunk already? 21:56:28 <RichK67> llordi won! 21:56:51 <Vornicus> depends on the patch 21:56:53 <RichK67> eddi - most are buggy as hell ;) 21:57:13 <RichK67> even my airports patch has big holes in it 21:57:56 <Celestar> RichK67: still? 21:58:13 * Vornicus thinks TGperlin is close to prime time, but it could use some extra toys - better coastal smoothing at map edges, and a way to get the generator number for an extant map 21:58:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but there is a) no rule that bugs may not be fixed and b) that trunk may not have bugs 21:58:42 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: some things will be in trunk sooner or later, others not .. 21:58:54 <RichK67> nah - ive been killing them... its just a lot of work i didnt expecyt 21:58:57 <RichK67> expect 21:59:05 * Vornicus <3 TGPerlin, except for the map edge thing 21:59:30 <Celestar> trunk will always have bugs :P 21:59:41 <Celestar> well written C code has about 0.5-0.8 bugs / KLOC 22:00:01 <Vornicus> all code has bugs 22:00:20 <gradator> bonjour 22:01:06 <Celestar> http://www.bash.org/?642195 <= some people have too much time 22:02:01 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B837D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:02:02 <Celestar> http://www.bash.org/?642504 <= roxx :) 22:02:26 <RichK67> Vorn: yeah, TGP needs more work on the coastlines... i have an idea for it, but it will take time. devs want a more complete gui too 22:03:33 <RichK67> when TGP goes live, i'll add the gen number to the savegame, then have it accessible in the info panel 22:03:52 <ln-> lordi 22:04:18 <RichK67> great fireworks too... i work as a professional firework photographer, and they were good :) 22:04:45 <hylje> =] 22:05:06 <Vornicus> ...ah, bloodninja. 22:05:34 <Celestar> ooooh no 22:05:39 <Celestar> Air Force One on TV 22:06:02 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:06:12 <RichK67> where eagles dare later :) 22:06:58 <Celestar> there are some things about the movie which are .... not overly realistic. 22:07:12 <Celestar> a 747 is not really designed to do power-slides on a runway for example ;) 22:07:45 <RichK67> lol - and its not the millennium falcon either ;) 22:08:02 <glx> a lot of movies with planes are not realistic 22:08:37 <peter1138> like airplane 22:08:49 <RichK67> lol - a lot of movies... are not realistic ;) 22:08:50 <Celestar> Airport is one of the best 22:09:07 <Celestar> The Gimli Glider is very good 22:09:11 <RichK67> airport is a disaster; airplane was funny :) 22:09:13 <Celestar> so is the movie about UA232 22:09:36 * peter1138 > sleep 22:10:01 <Celestar> me too 22:10:07 <Tron> wrong, peter1138 is lexically before sleep 22:10:09 <RichK67> "by dawn's early light" is a great air movie 22:10:39 <RichK67> cya celestar/peter1138 22:11:40 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B837D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:14:15 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:49 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1380.lns1-c9.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:15:25 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a4161f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:15:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:15:43 <Bjarni> what did I miss? 22:15:56 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has joined #openttd 22:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> DIE UNGLAUBLICHE REISE IN EINEM VERRüCKTEN FLUGZEUG 22:16:03 <Eddi|zuHause> ("Airplane!") 22:16:03 <Eddi|zuHause> (USA, 1980) 22:16:14 <Eddi|zuHause> is that the movie you were talking about? 22:16:21 <Bjarni> I missed 1980??? 22:16:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you did ;) 22:17:14 <Bjarni> so how old do you think I am? 22:17:24 <RichK67> i cant keep a straight face every time i go to an airport and here "the red zone is for loading unloading only"... :) 22:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe we discussed that a while back 22:18:21 <Bjarni> RichK67: I thought the red zone was a dangerous one that nobody should enter 22:18:30 <Bjarni> like jet engine test area or something 22:19:50 <RichK67> its the bit in the movie where the taxis turn up, and the announcers start having an argument over which zone is for what... and then they have a marital argument :) 22:20:23 <Bjarni> nice, I got 16 svn mails today :) 22:20:40 <Bjarni> even through it states that all of them are from yesterday 22:20:47 <Tobin> Eddi|zuHause: I believe that films actual title was "Flying High" 22:21:18 <Tobin> Erm, actually that's the film RichK67 is talking about. 22:21:20 *** valhalla1zzw [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #openttd 22:21:37 <Tobin> Dang IRC client is using the same colour for both of you. 22:22:31 <Bjarni> both of who? 22:22:45 <Tobin> Eddi|zuHause and RichK67. 22:22:46 <RichK67> lol - i saw airplane at the cinema, and its start was hysterical (coming out only 3 yrs after Jaws)... the plane's fin moving about in the clouds... cracking :) 22:22:50 <Bjarni> I get the same colour for Tobin and RichK67 22:22:59 <Vornicus> I get the same color for Tobin and Bjarni 22:23:02 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause got a different one though 22:23:13 <RichK67> i get the same colour for everyone :) except me ;) 22:23:22 <Vornicus> (green) Eddi has teal, rich has blue 22:23:33 <Bjarni> RichK67: monochrome monitor? 22:23:38 <Bjarni> I once used one of those 22:23:53 <Vornicus> (many clients do not color code nicks) 22:23:58 <RichK67> trillian... yeah, about the same as mono ;) 22:24:31 <Bjarni> <Vornicus> Eddi has teal, rich has blue <-- if I recall correctly what teal is, then I got the same 22:24:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is there a decent colour-code script for mirc? 22:24:52 <RichK67> teal = greeny/blue 22:25:15 <Bjarni> I guess you could call it that 22:29:03 <RichK67> bbl 22:29:05 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 22:29:30 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-180-138.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 22:32:07 *** valhallazzzw [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:34:18 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:35:45 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:36:29 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 22:46:52 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-32-112.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:54:22 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 22:55:12 *** Magus_X [i=t7DS@201-40-176-210.paebv700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit ["The 7 Deadly Sins: Uma boa idéia. [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 22:56:19 <RichK67> back 23:17:08 <ln-> http://www.hs.fi/kuvakoostekuva/1135219957895/1135219958897 23:18:30 *** Bringuh [n=no@pD9E2FC86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:10 <Bringuh> quick question: I want to run a game on my dedicated server with custom .grfs. The dedicated server is running the Linux version (with the .grfs from the windows version of the game); I will need the windows versions of the respective custom .grfs, right? 23:20:53 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.67.229.100] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:21:16 <glx> yes 23:21:59 <glx> but all clients should use the same grfs in the same order 23:22:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:07 *** Sacro__ [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-187-18.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:23:25 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-32-112.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:23:32 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D78B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:41 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:12 <Bjarni> ln-: hmm, why do you show us a pic of you going shopping? 23:24:35 <Bjarni> do you think that we think you are such a geek that you can't figure out how to go shopping? 23:25:15 <valhalla1zzw> Bjarni: :D 23:26:06 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:26:10 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a4161f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:26:13 <valhalla1zzw> tssss 23:29:05 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:30:02 *** CobraA2 [n=Jeremiah@cpe-024-088-000-194.sc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:38:45 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:39:30 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:40:49 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-187-18.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:43:13 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 23:54:53 *** Sacro__ [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-187-18.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]