Log for #openttd on 26th May 2006:
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00:32:48  <[Shaman]> [Sacro]: errm, tried to open a 6MB PDF with Azureus running << Ram++
00:32:59  <Sacro> [Shaman]: cant afford any
00:33:11  * [Shaman] shrugs
00:33:27  <Sacro> lol, hmm its half 1
00:33:30  <[Shaman]> 512 should be able to manage quite a bit
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00:33:49  <[Shaman]> opened 4 15mb jpg files in photshop on my laptop
00:33:49  <Sacro> yeah, i know
00:33:57  <Sacro> i dunno how much ram this has actually
00:33:59  <[Shaman]> without it going "OMFGNOESFUCKOFF!"
00:34:40  <Sacro> hmm, 479MB
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00:34:54  <[Shaman]> 512 with some 'stolen' by the OS :p
00:35:03  <Sacro> yeah
00:35:10  <Sacro> and 114MB swap used
00:35:16  <[Shaman]> O_O
00:35:22  <[Shaman]> turn up swap a bit?
00:35:37  <[Shaman]> bit higher swap means programs like azureus work from there
00:35:42  <[Shaman]> at least
00:35:45  <[Shaman]> they tend to do that
00:35:51  <Sacro> youch, azureus using 80MB
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00:36:05  <[Shaman]> that way adobe won't go berserk when you open pdf files
00:36:10  <glx> azueus is a java app
00:36:28  <Sacro> i dont use adobe for pdfs
00:36:40  <Sacro> yeah, i should really use a non java torrent app
00:36:42  <[Shaman]> s/adobe/whatever you use for pdfs
00:37:19  <Sacro> probably doesnt help that im runnig KSirc under GNOME
00:37:20  <[Shaman]> half 2 here, going to sleep.
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05:31:37  <roboman> hello
05:48:44  * roboman wants the latest win nightly so he can play on brianettas server
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06:21:17  <Celestar> morning
06:23:33  <peter1138> hi
06:23:49  <peter1138> roboman: get it then?
06:24:53  <Celestar> morning peter1138 ;)
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07:17:35  <roboman> hello
07:17:58  <roboman> the compile farm didnt compile it
07:22:20  <Fujitsu> `it'?
07:23:47  <peter1138> it's there
07:23:51  <peter1138>
07:24:12  * peter1138 wonders why the page isn't showing it
07:24:31  * roboman couldnt find it in the list
07:24:36  <roboman> heh
07:24:52  <roboman> thanx peter
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07:47:43  <roboman> i am now on his server and taking goods from youre steel
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07:58:20  <peter1138> oh aye
07:58:29  <peter1138> roboman: can you get me a screenie? i can't play atm :(
07:58:52  <roboman> ok
07:59:11  <roboman> ill just have to get the town expanded a bit more
07:59:16  <peter1138> heh
08:01:53  <peter1138> i can join!
08:01:57  <peter1138> muwahah
08:02:00  <peter1138> 1941. hmm.
08:02:10  * peter1138 pays off loan
08:05:52  <MatryxWrk> !summon [Shaman] or Xaroth
08:06:01  <MatryxWrk> also, morning everyone :)
08:06:05  <peter1138> hmm
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08:22:28  <Celestar> ...
08:24:55  <peter1138> sup?
08:25:08  <Celestar> my tax advisor is here ...
08:25:19  * Fujitsu advises Celestar to tax-evade.
08:25:26  <Prof_Frink> Advice: pay your taxes
08:27:23  <MatryxWrk> Prof_Frink: you're hired as my tax advisor. You seem qualified.
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08:29:38  <peter1138> TRANSFORMERS
08:29:53  <Celestar> taxes? pay??
08:29:54  <peter1138> robert's in the skies
08:30:42  <roboman> peter to get that town to expand ive forced it towards my station
08:31:33  <MatryxWrk> I wonder, if you buy land in a strip (=====) around a town, can you force it to expand in a very long line?
08:31:48  <Celestar> build roads ...
08:32:29  * roboman blocked it with buy land signs
08:32:49  <Fujitsu> Matryx, hehehe
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08:45:18  <Celestar> hi Darkvater
08:45:32  <roboman> hello
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08:50:23  * [Shaman] prods MatryxWrk
08:50:30  <MatryxWrk> ooo
08:50:38  <MatryxWrk> what did you think of the savegame I sent you last night then?
08:50:40  <Celestar> hi Darkvater
08:51:47  <[Shaman]> Haven't had time to test it yet
08:51:51  <[Shaman]> other half is here now
08:51:51  <MatryxWrk> ah ok :)
08:51:54  <MatryxWrk> *nod*
08:55:58  <[Shaman]> mini_IN or normal?
08:56:11  <MatryxWrk> mini_IN
08:56:36  <[Shaman]> lol that edit-industry-production thingie is fun
08:56:47  <[Shaman]> got 16 trains on 1 line earning 230k each run
08:56:49  <[Shaman]> and it's a non-stop line
08:57:03  <MatryxWrk> pfft - cheats are for pussies :)
08:57:24  <[Shaman]> 326k/run even
08:57:33  <[Shaman]> just testing something
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09:01:15  <Celestar> hi Darkvater
09:01:28  <KUDr_wrk> hello master
09:01:41  <MatryxWrk> you know, when he reconnects straight after a "reset by peer" thing, I'm 99% certain it's an auto-reconnect :)
09:02:16  <Celestar> lol
09:02:29  <KUDr_wrk> but master is master
09:02:42  <KUDr_wrk> even automaster counts
09:03:00  <Celestar> rofl
09:03:06  <MatryxWrk> =)
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09:04:17  <Celestar> bbl
09:07:16  <[Shaman]> nice line, Matryx.
09:07:22  <[Shaman]> but too.. line-ey for me :P
09:07:25  <MatryxWrk> =)
09:07:33  <MatryxWrk> it's rather realistic, imo
09:07:37  <Celestar> geeky
09:08:23  <MatryxWrk> I think if I were to start again, I'd include more turning points
09:08:33  <MatryxWrk> like that double-bit near the middle
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09:10:56  <[Shaman]> check mail
09:11:10  <[Shaman]> those are my kind of 'lines' :P
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09:12:53  <[Shaman]> note, it's modified for testing purposes.
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09:13:20  <peter1138> Darkvater: behave!
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09:30:32  <MatryxWrk> shaman - will have to wait till I get home, will will check it out
09:31:00  <[Shaman]> k
09:31:07  <[Shaman]> I'll be gone all day anyways :P
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09:37:17  <MatryxWrk> I'll probs be gone all weekend
09:37:24  <MatryxWrk> if anyone asks where I am :)
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09:42:57  <Celestar> so
09:43:01  <Celestar> wtf is wrong with DV?
09:45:03  <Vornicus> He's gone insane
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10:42:44  <Fujitsu> Prof_Frink, having enough issues there?
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10:44:55  <Prof_Frink> Hopefully no more
10:45:13  <Prof_Frink> but with the bcm43xx driver, who knows...
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10:47:17  <Fujitsu> Silly Broadcom.
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12:02:00  <Celestar> ...
12:02:04  <Celestar> lots of traffic todaya
12:02:28  <glx> yeah :)
12:02:39  <peter1138> *nod*
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12:07:36  <Celestar> so
12:07:42  <Celestar> what about merging the bridge branch?
12:08:01  <glx> it works so why not
12:11:44  <Celestar> yeah
12:11:55  <Celestar> only I have some fights with autoreplace
12:11:58  * Fujitsu nods viciously.
12:12:48  <peter1138> what does autoreplace have to do with it?
12:13:06  *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight
12:13:14  <peter1138> morning truelight
12:13:21  <TrueLight> morning
12:13:31  <Fujitsu> Morning TL.
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12:15:18  <peter1138> hmm, 13:35... not quite morning :)
12:15:43  <Fujitsu> Well, it's 22:15 here, so not at all morning.
12:19:45  <TrueLight> and here it is 14:19
12:19:51  <TrueLight> I think peter1138 his clock is wrong
12:19:58  <JVassie> 13:19 here
12:20:15  <glx> all british people have wrong clock :)
12:20:15  <JVassie> peter1138, your wrong clocks wrong i think ;)
12:20:19  <JVassie> i dont
12:20:22  <JVassie> :p
12:20:29  <peter1138> 's isn't short for his :P
12:20:58  <peter1138> JVassie, yeah, I mean 13:15, I think...
12:22:28  <glx> Fujitsu: I though your clock was UTC :)
12:22:37  <Fujitsu> glx, it is.
12:22:50  <Fujitsu> But I'm talking about local time, as UTC isn't very useful in this situation.
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12:24:07  <Celestar> autoreplace isn't autoplacing wagons here :S
12:24:08  <Sacro> afternoon all
12:24:51  <peter1138> Celestar, well stab bjarni :-)
12:27:10  <Celestar> hell I love this game
12:27:16  <Celestar>
12:27:28  <peter1138> The game-of-stabbing-bjarni?
12:27:36  <peter1138> woo, nice
12:27:48  <peter1138> if a bit messy
12:27:53  <Celestar> just a bit
12:27:56  <XeryusTC> o_O teh bridges O_o
12:28:01  <peter1138> are bridges-over-bridges disabled now?
12:28:07  <Celestar> currently yes
12:28:11  <peter1138> k
12:28:17  <Celestar> first I wanna merge what we have,
12:28:20  <Celestar> then repair the BBs
12:28:20  <peter1138> yus
12:28:24  <peter1138> noo
12:28:26  <Celestar> and then look at crossing bridges
12:28:32  <Celestar> noo?
12:28:33  <peter1138> merge, add custom bridge heads
12:28:42  <Celestar> the BBs are repaired
12:28:45  <Celestar> it just need comitting
12:28:50  <peter1138> then let me see if i can work some BB bridge magic
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12:29:46  <Celestar>
12:29:49  <Celestar> try this diff
12:29:56  <glx> there's a display bug with bridge over tunnel entry
12:30:05  <Celestar> glx: not with the diff above ..
12:30:24  <Celestar> (I hope)
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12:30:33  <Celestar> ok I gotta go
12:30:34  <Celestar> cu later
12:31:12  <peter1138> +static const SpriteOffsetCorrector soc[] = {
12:31:13  <peter1138> +#include "corr.h"
12:31:13  <peter1138> +};
12:31:14  <peter1138> ugggly
12:31:31  <peter1138> (especially as the diff doesn't contain corr.h)
12:32:13  <glx> I'm trying to compile :)
12:32:26  <peter1138> doesn't look like that's needed
12:32:53  <peter1138> the big switch block sucks though
12:33:20  <valhallazzzw> nice Celestar :D
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12:37:26  <Celestar> peter1138: er .. I think that diff is old :o
12:37:36  <Celestar> peter1138: Tron insisted on a switch instead of a table
12:37:47  <glx> and corr.h is missing :)
12:38:35  <peter1138> Celestar, that makes changing the list depending on newgrf impossible
12:38:36  <Celestar> corr.h is not needed actually
12:38:52  <Celestar> peter1138: so, table or switch?
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12:39:08  <Celestar> corr.h was because I was to lazy to copy stuff ...
12:39:32  <glx> ok, but I can't compile then
12:39:42  <Celestar> glx: just remove that whole portion
12:40:14  <Celestar> peter1138: I'll clean that thing up over the weekend.
12:40:18  <Celestar> cu later
12:40:20  <Celestar> g2g
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12:44:41  <Sacro> JVassie: ping
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12:45:55  <RichK67> darkvater, peter1138: ping
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12:45:58  <peter1138> pong
12:46:10  <RichK67> hi peter
12:46:13  <peter1138> 'sup?
12:46:40  <RichK67> i have a request for creating a branch for MiniIN - celestar said i should check with you and DV
12:46:57  <peter1138> fine by me
12:47:08  <Sacro> RichK67: great idea :)
12:47:13  <RichK67> great - just DV now :)
12:47:36  <Sacro> RichK67: he aint here
12:47:52  <peter1138> Celestar, merge it already, i need to play with it!
12:48:02  <RichK67> sacro: i will be sole uploader/maintainer, but it will mean people can easily download latest and build patches against it
12:48:14  * Sacro starts a chant *merge merge merge merge*
12:48:39  <Sacro> RichK67: thats fine, i was up till gone 5am laying in bed thinking about new patch ideas
12:48:57  <RichK67> lol - been there, done that ;)
12:50:19  <Bjarni> peter1138: why do you want me to use a stopwatch when reading
12:52:43  <DarkSSHClone> hi guys
12:52:49  <RichK67> hi DV
12:52:50  <DarkSSHClone> I seem to have been disconnected :s
12:52:59  <Bjarni> o_O
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12:53:09  <DarkSSHClone> 11:02 < KUDr_wrk> but master is master
12:53:10  * Bjarni slaps DarkSSHClone
12:53:10  <DarkSSHClone> 11:02 < KUDr_wrk> even automaster counts
12:53:13  <DarkSSHClone> amen ^D
12:53:23  <Bjarni> don't toy with my cloning device
12:53:35  <RichK67> RichK67: i have a request for creating a branch for MiniIN - celestar said i should check with peter1138 and DV
12:53:39  <DarkSSHClone> wtf's going on with this server? dammit
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12:54:31  <Darkvater> RichK67: and?
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12:55:01  <RichK67> do you approve, and if so, who do i get to give me write permission to create the branch>
12:55:01  <RichK67> ?
12:55:13  <Darkvater> you don't have SVN access?
12:55:14  <Darkvater> hmmz
12:55:29  * Darkvater reads on on the svn handbook
12:56:06  <RichK67> i dont think i do; but i havent checked - i assumed all non-devs were read-only
12:56:46  <glx> RichK67: when you have write access, start by copy trunk into branch, them commit your changes
12:57:07  <Darkvater> hmm I needa ask TrueLight
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12:57:26  <RichK67> yup, i read the SVN book last night; looks straightforward
12:58:40  <RichK67> i have MiniIN up to date wrt trunk, so once the branch is ready, it should be simple to get it to update
13:00:01  <Darkvater> RichK67: pm-ping
13:00:22  <RichK67> sure, fire away
13:00:33  <Darkvater> PM
13:02:09  <Darkvater> goddammit
13:02:10  <Darkvater> fucking
13:02:12  <Darkvater> fuck
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13:02:25  <RichK67> ok - im confused; do you mean youve sent a PM on forums, cos i havent got one.... if open a pm window - ive got one open... ???? (RichK67 took dumb pill today)
13:02:34  <Darkvater> no pm here
13:02:41  <Darkvater> but fucking freenode and it's unregistered users crap
13:02:43  <Darkvater> GOD
13:04:49  * Sacro -> afk()
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13:12:55  <peter1138> heh
13:13:10  <Darkvater> heh
13:13:13  <Darkvater> <mirrored>
13:13:23  <peter1138> lies
13:13:25  <Bjarni> heh
13:13:33  <JVassie> hmm
13:13:33  <peter1138> now that was mirrored
13:13:34  <Bjarni> <reflected>
13:13:35  <Darkvater> noo!
13:14:08  <RichK67_> ty DV
13:14:27  <JVassie> how do we get an op in a channel on freenode?
13:14:38  <RichK67_> **ANNOUNCE** MiniIN will be available as a separate branch tonite :)
13:14:43  <Bjarni> image how many billions and years to invent the internet and the computers, and we just use it to write "heh" to copy other people
13:14:44  <peter1138> :-D
13:14:47  <Bjarni> nice going :p
13:14:52  <peter1138> Bjarni, heh
13:15:22  <KUDr_wrk> RichK67: good! Will it contain yapf?
13:15:48  <glx> it could, depends if RichK67 copy trunk or yapf :)
13:15:48  <Bjarni> JVassie: you find a girl to spend the night with an operator in the channel in question
13:15:54  <Bjarni> JVassie: you wanna be op in here?
13:16:00  <RichK67_> nope - it has old PBS in it, and i fear trying to install YAPF will blow it sky high!
13:16:14  <KUDr_wrk> aha
13:16:15  <XeryusTC> <@Bjarni> image how many billions and years to invent the internet and the computers, and we just use it to write "heh" to copy other people <- heh, so true :)
13:16:23  <RichK67_> however, the yapf dev could d/l MiniIN, and patch YAPF to it, then offer me the working patch :)
13:16:33  <Prof_Frink> < XeryusTC> <@Bjarni> image how many billions and years to invent the internet and the computers, and we just use it to write "heh" to copy other people <- heh, so true :) <- heh
13:16:52  <Bjarni> XeryusTC, Prof_Frink: I rest my case
13:17:09  <KUDr_wrk> RichK67: it is too complicated
13:17:10  <XeryusTC> heh :P
13:18:01  <RichK67_> yapf, or merging with Mini IN?
13:18:30  <KUDr_wrk> patching yapf with patch obtained from patched trunk
13:18:38  <peter1138> RichK67, how did you fix PBS at stations in the MiniIN ?
13:18:45  <peter1138> (or is it not up to date)
13:18:48  <glx> KUDr_wrk: yeah too much work
13:19:06  <RichK67_> it doesnt - i put a "i wont fix PBS" notice in the thread ;)
13:19:27  <KUDr_wrk> RichK67: then you can do it without PBS
13:20:20  <RichK67_> personally i would prefer Mini IN without PBS, and then i can have lots of other goodies easily. however the Mini IN users are addicted to PBS....
13:20:38  <KUDr_wrk> hmm
13:21:08  <peter1138> Matt-W, progress?
13:21:59  <XeryusTC> RichK67: you *could* just leave PBS out of the Mini IN and people just have to like it or not :)
13:22:16  <XeryusTC> aka a "not my problem" situation :P
13:22:24  <peter1138> they don't *have* to upgrade
13:23:38  <Matt-W> peter1138: not really done anything. should do.
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13:25:39  <peter1138> bah
13:27:03  <glx> Celestar: the diff works :)
13:27:24  <Sacro> any Op's around?
13:27:46  <Sacro> from any channel :) not just this one
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13:28:09  <glx> Sacro: what do you want to know?
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13:28:23  <Sacro> glx: how do i add an Op to a channel that i created?
13:28:38  <glx> you are op yourself?
13:29:42  <JVassie> type !adduser nick <accesslevel>
13:29:46  <JVassie> i think
13:31:47  <Bjarni> that's not how I do it
13:32:11  <Bjarni> first, you  need to be op yourself
13:32:28  <Bjarni> then it's something like /access add nick accesslevel
13:32:34  <Bjarni> or something like that
13:32:50  <Bjarni> it got a nice help text, so it's not that tricky to figure out
13:34:14  <JVassie> hmm
13:34:33  <JVassie> not how they do it on with chanserv
13:35:42  <Bjarni> I only know freenode
13:35:51  <Bjarni> other servers might do it differently
13:35:52  <JVassie> hmm
13:36:02  <JVassie> thought it might be same as they have the same bot ;p
13:36:10  <JVassie> but quakenet is the easiest imo
13:36:35  <glx> JVassie: just use /msg chanserv to send the command
13:37:25  <Sacro> sorry, jkust on the phone
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13:39:02  <valhallazzzw> irc.ogamenet :r
13:39:07  * valhallazzzw hides
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13:45:12  <Sacro> lol
13:45:37  <JVassie> valhallazzzw: why?
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13:48:07  <valhallazzzw> ogame is evil ;P
13:48:17  <JVassie> nah it isnt
13:48:18  <JVassie> its awesome
13:48:21  <JVassie> do you play?
13:48:26  <JVassie> or did you used to?
13:49:13  <XeryusTC> ogame is quite cool
13:49:47  <JVassie> :)
13:49:52  <JVassie> XeryusTC, you play?
13:50:00  <JVassie> what uni? which alliance?
13:50:00  <XeryusTC> yes, since two days ago :)
13:50:03  <JVassie> wicked
13:50:13  <XeryusTC> the one purno pointed out
13:50:18  <XeryusTC> something ending on wo
13:50:19  <JVassie> 3?
13:50:23  <JVassie> gung-ho?
13:50:30  <XeryusTC> yes
13:50:35  <XeryusTC> the wing alliance
13:50:37  <JVassie> :)
13:50:40  <JVassie> im leader of it!
13:50:42  <JVassie> :D
13:50:49  * valhallazzzw is valhallasw @ uni5/got-w
13:50:49  <XeryusTC> :)
13:50:56  <JVassie> koolies
13:51:00  <valhallazzzw> but hey
13:51:01  <JVassie> never noticed you
13:51:02  <XeryusTC> but i still like UC more :)
13:51:06  <JVassie> nah ;p
13:51:08  * valhallazzzw notes the name of this channel
13:51:08  <JVassie> lol
13:51:19  <valhallazzzw> iirc it sais #openttd
13:51:22  <valhallazzzw> not #ogame ;P
13:51:39  <XeryusTC> * valhallazzzw is valhallasw @ uni5/got-w <- does GoT have ogame players?
13:51:58  <valhallazzzw> yes
13:52:14  <valhallazzzw> GoT-v/w is GoT-only
13:52:21  <valhallazzzw> iirc you need SG-access to be accepted
13:52:34  <XeryusTC> i dont have a GoT account
13:52:40  <valhallazzzw> muhaha.
13:52:54  <XeryusTC> most people on GoT suck
13:52:55  <hylje> what is got
13:53:11  <XeryusTC> gathering of tweakers
13:53:25  <XeryusTC> some forum on (dutch)
13:53:53  <JVassie> lol
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14:08:23  <Born_Acorn> "Anyone posting any or URL twice in 10 minutes will be banned"
14:08:27  <Born_Acorn> Best. Rule. Ever.
14:08:56  <Born_Acorn> I applaud itscreator.
14:09:50  <glx> hmm maybe a rule "Anyone posting peter1138: new*! twice in 2 hours will be banned" could be fun too :)
14:10:44  <XeryusTC> glx: i think noone wile get banned because (almost) every op has persons saying that on ignore ;)
14:11:03  <peter1138> i don't
14:11:25  <hylje> they just ignore the requests anyway
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14:11:30  <JVassie> lol
14:11:38  <JVassie> ProfFrink! howdy
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14:19:45  <XeryusTC> lol, my first ogame attack has failed
14:19:48  <White_Rabbit> woe betide us all! where is the latest nightly build for Windows? ;(
14:19:56  <JVassie> awww
14:20:05  <XeryusTC> ?
14:20:06  <JVassie> White_Rabbit: #throughthetube ;p
14:20:10  <glx> White_Rabbit:
14:20:54  <XeryusTC> JVassie: i only had a small cargo ship attacking
14:21:56  <White_Rabbit> thanks, but why isn't it on the main nightly page?
14:22:05  <glx> I don't know
14:22:21  <glx> even nightly archive for win32 are not in the main mpage
14:22:41  <JVassie> XeryusTC: oh dear :(
14:23:45  <glx> Darkvater: maybe you know why win32 build are not on main nightly page
14:24:01  <Darkvater> perhaps because it failed?
14:24:23  <glx> no the compile log says it's ok and the zip is present
14:24:56  <Darkvater> hmm, error.log looks ok
14:25:13  <glx> it's not listed under "archive builds" too
14:25:42  <Darkvater> interesting
14:26:07  <XeryusTC> JVassie: can't you send me some resources?
14:26:37  <JVassie> lol
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14:26:41  <JVassie> how brusk ;p
14:26:45  <JVassie> how much roughly?
14:27:10  <Darkvater> lemme try a refresh
14:27:15  <XeryusTC> i need another 400 metal for small cargo
14:28:03  <Darkvater> hmm
14:30:28  <Darkvater> it seems the file is not present in that directory
14:30:52  <Darkvater>
14:31:09  <Darkvater> don't ask me why
14:31:24  <JVassie> XeryusTC: how much in total?
14:31:48  <Darkvater> TrueLight: any idea?
14:31:52  <XeryusTC> uhm
14:33:29  <JVassie> ?
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14:35:53  <XeryusTC> JVassie: i need 400 metal for a new small cargo, and another 3000 metal and 400 crystal for a light fighter to escort it
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14:41:50  <JVassie> so 3400 metal and 400 crystal yeah?
14:45:29  <XeryusTC> yes
14:46:19  <MatryxWrk> metal? crystal? fighters?  pray tell, what game are you discussing?
14:46:30  <XeryusTC> ogame
14:46:48  <MatryxWrk> ?
14:46:56  * MatryxWrk peruses the website.
14:47:08  <XeryusTC>
14:47:28  <MatryxWrk> heh - same site
14:47:30  <MatryxWrk> looks interesting
14:47:36  <MatryxWrk> if I had more free time I might give it a shot
14:48:03  <XeryusTC> i still like UC more
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14:55:52  <JVassie> XeryusTC, whats your co-ords plz?
14:56:06  <XeryusTC> 2:82:9
14:56:17  <XeryusTC> i was just looking if the fleet was already comming :)
14:56:17  <Prof_Frink> ::targetting ICBM::
14:57:41  <XeryusTC> JVassie: i have earned 200 metal now
14:58:32  <XeryusTC> JVassie: you don't need to send resources for the small cargo anymore, i have enough in 23 minutes :)
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15:04:22  <JVassie> you sure?
15:04:33  <JVassie> im rank ~1080
15:04:38  <JVassie> that much res aint a problem
15:04:43  <JVassie> i can send lots if you need it
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15:05:50  <XeryusTC> JVassie: send me as much as you can then :)
15:09:28  <Darkvater> hehe this Amarok is pretty cool
15:09:30  * Darkvater likes it
15:11:05  <TrueLight> Darkvater: I can't find no reason at all why the win32 isn't published
15:11:22  <Darkvater> it's not in the directory for some reason...really strange
15:14:25  <TrueLight> now they are
15:14:29  <TrueLight> (macosx was missing too)
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15:30:55  <Darkvater> hmm anyone got an idea why ADSL won't work (with the VPN dial-up)?
15:31:09  <Darkvater> my friend gets an 735 error code whenever he tries to get on the internet
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15:32:24  <roboman> gnight
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15:33:34  <Belugas> Darkvater : ADSL and VPN, that is my setup at home to reach the office.  It works flawlessly.  I'll search for this errorcode
15:34:22  <Belugas>
15:34:22  <Belugas>
15:34:22  <Belugas> Error 735 - The requested address was rejected by server.
15:34:23  <Darkvater> it's connection rejected or something
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15:34:37  <Darkvater> but he needs to dial from his PC INTO the modem to get internet
15:35:11  <Belugas> make sure you don't setup static IP on the VPN client and let the VPN server assign IP
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15:35:14  <Belugas> you/he
15:35:33  <Belugas> Well...
15:35:37  <Darkvater> no he needs static ip
15:35:40  <Darkvater> it's stupid :(
15:35:54  <Belugas> He needs to get on the internet before accessing VPN
15:36:07  <Belugas> thus no static
15:36:24  <Darkvater> no he needs static because he needs to CALL into the modem
15:36:32  <Belugas> ?
15:36:39  <Darkvater> the whole internet with kpn's adsl works through a vpn connection :S
15:36:44  <Belugas> last sentence is not parsable
15:37:09  <Darkvater> to get onto the internet
15:37:23  <Darkvater> he needs to VPN to ' pc1'
15:37:28  <Darkvater> and that gets error 735
15:38:07  <Belugas> modem have two addresses.  Local and external.  He accesses the modem with "inner" address
15:38:38  <Darkvater> yes
15:38:52  <Darkvater> so his pc needs a static 'inner' address so he can access the modem
15:40:20  <Belugas> yes, indeed.  My modem has a address, my router is on  But that is inner
15:40:40  <Belugas> and my main pc is on
15:41:21  <Darkvater> yes
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15:42:06  <Belugas> So, I send the command (well.. not me, the router) to launch internet to the modem.
15:42:23  <Belugas> Once done, the VPN session is established with the outer modem address
15:42:38  <Darkvater> Belugas: I know
15:42:48  <Darkvater> but it doesn't work for him and I don't know why
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15:43:05  <Belugas> Maybe it is only a setting on the server side.
15:43:12  <Belugas> after all, the error says so...
15:43:22  <Belugas> "Error 735 - The requested address was rejected by server."
15:43:52  <Darkvater> could be
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15:44:03  <Darkvater> perhaps they kicked him/us off because we used a router :O
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15:47:12  <Belugas> only two ways to find out
15:47:21  <Belugas> 1) try somewhere else
15:47:28  <Belugas> 2) contact admins
15:48:46  <Darkvater> yeah, we're doing 2)
15:50:03  <Darkvater> I always hated this totally noob ADSL crap
15:50:13  <Darkvater> I had BBNED and you turned on your pc and it worked
15:50:18  <Darkvater> non of this stupid shit
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16:01:23  <XeryusTC> roflmaao
16:06:29  <peter1138> you and bjarni are on the
16:06:36  <peter1138> i guess it's going down hill
16:06:55  <peter1138> especially as it's one of bjarni's doesn't-make-any-sense sentences
16:07:15  <XeryusTC> i am on where?
16:07:32  <peter1138> the latest latest
16:08:10  <XeryusTC> ah that one
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16:43:05  <ploppy> hello there, I can't get the yapf branch to work on my system
16:43:19  <ploppy> the app asserts, presumably because the _patches data structure looks like this when that happens:
16:44:28  <KUDr> ploppy: what system?
16:44:48  <ploppy> mac os x powerpc
16:44:53  <KUDr> aha
16:45:04  <KUDr> it is exactly what causes problems
16:45:24  <KUDr> LE-BE 4 bytes bool issue
16:45:50  <KUDr> i can't repair it as i don't have PPC
16:46:02  <KUDr> can you do little research?
16:46:12  <ploppy> sure
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16:46:34  <KUDr> ok, take trun (not yapf) and change bool to ne unsigned int
16:46:41  <KUDr> and try to run it
16:47:08  <KUDr> take trunk (not yapf) and change bool to be unsigned int
16:47:16  <KUDr> sorry for typos
16:47:26  <ploppy> checking trunk out now
16:48:24  <ploppy> btw, i don't think that's the main issue, because the other (non-bool) values in _patches get set to really weird values (i.e. rail_crossing_penalty = 2094826640)
16:48:48  <KUDr> this is because it gets shifted
16:48:51  <KUDr> probably
16:48:58  <KUDr> by C++ bool that is 4 bytes
16:49:05  <KUDr> and C bool is 1 byte
16:49:09  <KUDr> on PPC
16:49:27  <KUDr> so you read it from weird addresses
16:50:18  <ploppy> ah
16:50:36  <KUDr> not sure but this was issue on morphos
16:50:41  <KUDr> also ppc
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17:12:14  <ploppy> KUDr: done; the game seems to be running fine
17:12:49  <Sacro> afternoon all
17:13:15  <KUDr> ploppy: can you make sure that bool is now 4 bytes?
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17:23:37  <bobingabout> evening
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17:24:11  <bobingabout> not very chatty is it?
17:24:21  <Sacro> yeah, think they all gone to sleep
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17:26:53  <bobingabout> bjarni! darkvater!
17:27:09  <Sacro> bobingabout: don't tease the devs
17:27:17  <bobingabout> sacro!
17:28:12  <bobingabout> dunno why i'm even here actually...
17:28:29  <Sacro> nah you should join #throughthetube
17:28:51  <bobingabout> they probably won't won't to talk to me anyway after i said on the forums that openttd was crap
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17:29:56  <bobingabout> i take it that dark names mean idle or something?
17:30:01  <Sacro> cant remember
17:31:46  <peter1138> bobingabout: that would be assuming that we care what you think :P
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17:32:34  <Sacro> hey peter1138
17:32:35  <bobingabout> i was kinda refering to the non-costomisability of it compaired to the patch
17:32:45  <bobingabout> spacificly refering to how you can't turn of erails
17:33:15  <bobingabout> sugesting that might be why people are complaining about it in ottd when they never when the patch did it
17:33:43  <bobingabout> anyway, hi peter :P
17:34:15  <Sacro> isnt there a patch to add a cheat option so that eltrains can run on conv rails?
17:35:13  <glx> Sacro: yes
17:35:28  <Sacro> glx: that in nightlies?
17:35:42  <glx> yes in nightlies
17:36:14  <Sacro> im thinking of doing some 3rd rail sprites
17:36:22  <glx> but it's only for single player mode
17:36:57  <Sacro> cant it be mapped to a patch option?
17:37:22  <glx> ask Celestar but I don't think so
17:41:27  <bobingabout> hmmm
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17:43:56  <bobingabout> hi
17:44:32  <bobingabout> bye all
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17:49:46  <Sacro> its oh so quiet
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17:58:50  <anboni> evening
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17:59:38  <anboni> KUDr: ping?
17:59:46  <KUDr> pong
18:00:08  <anboni> i've been thinking about that loadbalancing stuff we chatted about last night a bit more
18:00:38  <anboni> got some pseudo-pseudo code written down, wanna take a look at it?:)
18:02:07  <KUDr> yes, but not now - i have some problems with my PC
18:02:12  <anboni> doh ok
18:02:17  <anboni> anything i can help with?
18:02:18  <KUDr> try to create new topic on forum
18:02:24  <KUDr> no
18:02:37  <anboni> ok, i'll toss it on the forum
18:02:37  <KUDr> VS2005 crashed and no longer works
18:02:42  <anboni> ouch
18:02:53  <KUDr> quite normal in M$ world
18:03:17  <anboni> tell me about it... i fix that shit for a living...
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18:04:16  <Brianetta> lang/slovak.txt:327: FATAL: STR_UNITS_WEIGHT_LONG_IMPERIAL: Invalid number of plural forms. Expecting 3, found 1.
18:04:45  <valhallazzzw> 'lo Brianetta
18:04:59  <valhallazzzw> anboni: you work at MS? :+
18:05:07  <anboni> luckily no
18:05:34  <anboni> but i'm a sysadmin, i basically get to work around MS' shit
18:06:54  <Brianetta> We rolled out Windows 2003 across our servers this week
18:06:57  <Brianetta> No more NT4
18:07:06  <anboni> that's at least some improvement
18:07:22  <Brianetta> Got my Linux box authenticating against the AD instead of the domain just fine
18:07:30  <anboni> luckily, i'm running a shop with Netware in the backend.. so i just have to deal with MS shit on the desktop
18:07:56  <anboni> (and even there, we're using Novell Zenworks to make that shit at least somewhat manageble :) )
18:07:58  <Brianetta> Well, that's all closed source stuff
18:08:08  <anboni> like W2k3 isnt :)
18:08:21  <Brianetta> My desktop machine certainly isn't
18:08:49  <Brianetta> so I'm spared the hassle
18:09:04  <anboni> we may actually start seeing Novell (open source) stuff on the desktop within the next year or so:)
18:10:04  <Brianetta> I have Novell stuff on my desktop - Beagle, for instance
18:10:24  <Brianetta> Beagle's excellent unless your home directory is on an NFS server ):
18:10:48  <anboni> i'm talking about full blown OS.. Novell is about to release Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10.. and from what i've seen of it so far, it looks pretty good
18:11:04  <Brianetta> I just switched away from Suse
18:11:15  <Brianetta> Too difficult to remain up to date
18:11:16  <anboni> i havent yet gotten the hang of beagle.. dont really see the advantage yet :)
18:12:14  <Brianetta> Beagle lets you find all the source files in OpenTTD that reference <random function>
18:12:31  <Brianetta> and also all the MP3s that have that name in the ID3 tags, while it's at it
18:12:42  <anboni> i guess if i were doing a lot of programming, that could be useful :)
18:12:52  <Brianetta> I use it for searching my IRC logs
18:12:56  <anboni> and my mp3 collection is pretty strictly ordered as it is :)
18:13:10  <anboni> ok, now it's getting somewhat more useful to me :)
18:13:13  <Brianetta> Unfortunately, I could never figure out a good way to order a conversation...
18:13:18  <anboni> haha
18:13:28  <Brianetta> It also indexes my GAIM logs and emails
18:13:35  <Brianetta> all in one interface
18:13:43  <Brianetta> It's good, and fast
18:13:48  <Brianetta> like locate versus find
18:13:56  <anboni> that's pretty sweet
18:14:29  <anboni> i had it sniffing my disks when i just finished installing fc5, but i killed it because i didn't like it nosing through my files :)
18:14:39  <Brianetta> It indexes web pages IU visit, but I told it not to index Google
18:15:00  <anboni> hmm.. index the index.. nah, you wouldn't want that :)
18:15:05  <Brianetta> So if it's not obvious from my history where I read that cool joke, Beagle will find it
18:15:33  <anboni> hmm.. maybe i should reevaluate beagle sometime soon
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18:16:02  * valhallazzzw hugs Darkvater
18:16:09  <valhallazzzw> ( )
18:19:25  <peter1138> heh
18:19:26  <anboni> let's see what people think of my loadbalancing idea :)
18:20:12  <anboni> lol
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18:33:37  <peter1138> Brianetta: where did your nightly go?
18:33:44  <Brianetta> Is it noit there?
18:34:12  <peter1138> hmm
18:34:15  <peter1138> 'tis
18:34:36  <peter1138> next question
18:34:39  <Brianetta> (:
18:34:44  <peter1138> why is the nightly 4977 not 4978?
18:34:56  <Brianetta> Damn, it got rebuilt again?
18:34:59  <peter1138> no
18:35:00  <peter1138> but
18:35:01  <Brianetta> My nightly was the 7:00 nightly
18:35:16  <peter1138> but the last rev was 4978
18:35:24  <Brianetta> Latest nightly was built from revision r4977, created at Fri May 26 20:00:03 CEST 2006.
18:35:29  <peter1138> yeah
18:35:35  <Brianetta>
18:35:36  <peter1138> there are no changes in trunk
18:35:36  <peter1138> but
18:35:47  <Brianetta> but everybody who downloads the nightly build
18:35:52  <Brianetta> will have that revision
18:35:58  <peter1138> Brianetta: i'm not questioning why *your* nightly is 4977
18:36:05  <peter1138> i'm questioning why *the* nightly is 4977
18:36:19  <Brianetta> It always happens
18:36:29  <peter1138> no, it's always the latest
18:36:29  <Brianetta> If changes are committed to branches
18:36:44  <Brianetta> This isn't even the fourth time
18:36:52  <Brianetta> I used to svn update at 19:00 exactly
18:36:59  <Brianetta> but tat way led to suffering
18:37:29  <Brianetta> because the nightly isn't the current trunk if that revision was for another branch
18:37:48  <Brianetta> I can't tell you why, but TrueLight might
18:38:40  * Brianetta is away watching B5
18:39:15  <Sacro> bbl, tea
18:39:55  <TrueLight> What was the question?
18:40:33  <peter1138> why is the nightly 4977 when the last revision (albeit to a branch) is 4978
18:40:52  <TrueLight> Because the latest TRUNK version is 4977
18:40:54  <TrueLight> very simple
18:40:56  <Sacro> the nightly revision is the same as the last trunk update, not the last SVN update
18:41:05  <TrueLight> Say that between today and tomorrow there are _only_ commits to branches
18:41:12  <peter1138> and how do i determine that?
18:41:14  <TrueLight> does that mean that tomorrow theer will be a new nightly version?
18:41:18  <peter1138> when i svn up is takes me to 4978 :/
18:41:25  <TrueLight> run 'svn info'
18:41:31  <TrueLight> it tells you what the latest version is
18:41:39  <TrueLight> I btw do consider it a bug in the default compile system
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18:44:30  <peter1138> well, i'm convinced anyway :)
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19:14:11  <Sacro> its all quiet in here
19:14:52  <hylje> no
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19:28:47  <CIA-3> KUDr * r4979 /branch/yapf/ (Makefile os/macosx/Makefile.setup stdafx.h): [YAPF] PowerPC on osx and morphos should now use 4 bytes bool (thanks to ploppy)
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19:39:00  <RichK67> hi all
19:39:41  <RichK67> does anyone here have experience creating branches in SVN??
19:39:59  <Sacro> RichK67: i havent
19:41:06  <Sacro> RichK67: try #svn
19:41:18  <KUDr> RichK67: with tortoise
19:41:21  <RichK67> yup
19:42:37  <glx> RichK67: you don't have svn CLI?
19:42:57  <RichK67> no, i use a WIMP interface ;)
19:43:03  <Sacro> WIMP?
19:43:06  <Rubidium> RichK67:
19:43:14  <RichK67> Window, Icon, Mouse Pointer
19:43:16  <KUDr> i guess: right clic/Tortoise/branch tag/copy to URL (set url + add log message)
19:43:21  <Sacro> RichK67: ah yes
19:43:41  <RichK67> ive read the docs, but it doesnt answer my question
19:43:47  <glx> RichK67: but be sure you copy a clean trunk
19:43:51  <KUDr> what question?
19:44:06  <RichK67> i want to create the Mini IN, but i already have my trunk populated with the Mini IN code
19:44:20  <KUDr> not good
19:44:31  <RichK67> should i just revert, and then patch in current state
19:44:33  <KUDr> start with clean copy from trunk
19:44:41  <RichK67> after the branch?
19:44:43  <KUDr> then commit your code
19:45:00  <RichK67> ok - so its not as nice as i hoped... but doable
19:45:06  <glx> RichK67: what name do you want for the branch?
19:45:08  <KUDr> do it elsewhere
19:45:18  <KUDr> or i can create it for you
19:45:27  <glx> I'm doing it :)
19:45:27  <RichK67> no thanks... i need to learn this
19:45:33  <RichK67> no please dont
19:45:41  <KUDr> hehe
19:45:46  <glx> it's easy with CLI
19:45:46  <Sacro> stop fighting over him!
19:45:57  <KUDr> it is not fight
19:46:10  <Sacro> KUDr: why do u have your handbag out then :P
19:46:14  <Rubidium> RichK67: that URL I gave is especially about TortoiseSVN (so _no_ CLI, but GUI)
19:46:28  <RichK67> it may be easy, but i am using SVN & Tortoise under windows at work, and trying to convince ppl to use it - so i need to know all
19:46:42  <KUDr> Sacro: i threw it already
19:47:09  <RichK67> Rub: i read that - its in the help file of tortoise; didnt help
19:47:25  <glx> but it's clear
19:47:58  <KUDr> RichK67: so start the Copy branch/tag dialog
19:48:04  <KUDr> there it is clean
19:48:16  <RichK67> glx: have you stopped your create?
19:48:20  <glx> yes
19:48:46  <RichK67> ty - i will go for it then; revert, then branch, then patch, then commit
19:49:22  <RichK67> is there a format for the branch comment?? eg. [MiniIN]: Initial branch.  ??
19:50:00  <KUDr> RichK67: choose some - you are author
19:50:53  <RichK67> yeah, but the correctness police jump on you if it doesnt match their perfect (unwritten/unpublished) rules ;)
19:51:15  <KUDr> heh
19:51:17  <RichK67> decided to checkout a fresh copy
19:51:47  <RichK67> oh well - 7th copy on my system ;)
19:52:21  <glx> I think copy uses url directly in this case, so no need to do a fresh checkout
19:52:46  <RichK67> in tortoise, the option "Branch" is only available from a checked out version
19:53:39  <KUDr> checkout trunk and do it
19:54:00  <KUDr> (or start from yapf)
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19:54:26  <CIA-3> richk * r4980 /branch/MiniIN/: [MiniIN]: Initial branch.
19:54:35  <RichK67> woohoo!!
19:54:47  <KUDr> RichK67: congrat!
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19:55:21  <glx> good :)
19:55:47  <RichK67> patched - no errors ;)
19:55:47  <glx> now you can add patch one by one
19:56:03  <KUDr> yes
19:56:22  <KUDr> one by one and always commit
19:56:25  <RichK67> im not going to unpick it, and rebuild
19:56:34  <KUDr> hmm
19:56:38  <KUDr> you shoud
19:56:43  <KUDr> should ;)
19:57:02  <glx> it's easier to maintain if you add each patch separately
19:57:03  <RichK67> hmmm.... and throw away 2 months of bug fixes?
19:57:12  <KUDr> this is how they teach me
19:57:21  <RichK67> yeah, long term id agree...
19:57:23  <KUDr> hmm
19:57:27  <KUDr> probably not
19:57:31  <RichK67> hmm.... no PBS :)
19:58:21  <RichK67> if i add one patch at a time, i would dump PBS - and let someone else find a way to integrate it
19:58:39  <glx> good idea isn't it?
19:58:50  <peter1138> doing it one at a time would make it easier to integrate bits into trunk, too
19:58:53  <RichK67> yeah, i like that part
19:59:14  <RichK67> true - so we could extract individual patches :)
19:59:25  <glx> start by adding your patches
19:59:34  <RichK67> ok - i have all weekend :)
20:00:25  <Sacro> RichK67: nooooooo, dont dump pbs
20:00:26  <glx> btw if someone want you to add his patch, he will make it against miniIN branch so less work for you
20:00:58  <KUDr> true
20:00:59  <RichK67> yup
20:01:03  <RichK67> that was the idea
20:01:51  <RichK67> sacro - once all the other patches are in, someone else can have a go at integrating PBS against the MiniIN directly; it will be easier for them too
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20:02:13  <Sacro> RichK67: well YAPF might be in soon
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20:02:29  <glx> Sacro: wrong person :)
20:02:31  <RichK67> KUDr: how close i yapf to going in?
20:02:37  <RichK67> i-is
20:02:49  <KUDr> into trunk?
20:03:06  <RichK67> well, trunk or patchable?
20:03:17  <KUDr> ready to go to trunk
20:03:21  <Sacro> glx: dont confuse me :)
20:03:35  <Sacro> KUDr: well push the button and INTEGRATE :D
20:03:50  <RichK67> so how would i include it into MiniIN?
20:03:52  <KUDr> Sacro: permission needed
20:04:17  <glx> RichK67: diff between yapf and trunk then patch miniIN
20:04:18  <KUDr> RichK67: you can start with it
20:04:21  <Sacro> KUDr: permission granted
20:05:06  <RichK67> glx: sounds good; how to diff YAPF branch?
20:05:15  <KUDr> simply rewrite sources
20:05:33  <KUDr> exclude .svn dirs from copy
20:05:50  <RichK67> is YAPF current against latest trunk?
20:05:56  <KUDr> no
20:06:01  <KUDr> i will sync
20:06:02  <KUDr> wait
20:06:45  <RichK67> KUDr: so best way is I checkout a YAPF branch, then just copy the files across (minus .svn)??
20:07:32  <KUDr> all .svn directories must go out, but i don't think it is the best way
20:07:42  <KUDr> as you must also add files
20:07:47  <KUDr> using tortoise
20:07:56  <RichK67> you'd suggest i directly branch off yapf??
20:07:57  <glx> I'm sure tortoise can make a diff between urls
20:08:22  <KUDr> hmm, maybe easier, but there must be a way
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20:09:25  <RichK67> how many new/extra files?
20:09:35  <KUDr> ha!
20:09:40  <KUDr> merge from yapf!
20:09:46  <KUDr> it should work
20:09:58  <KUDr> i use it to sync with trunk
20:09:59  <RichK67> sounds interesting... /me goes read
20:10:41  <peter1138> RichK67...
20:10:43  <peter1138> you realise...
20:10:47  <peter1138> this almost makes you a dev :P
20:11:11  <RichK67> arrrggg ;)    i'll start liking C next ;)
20:12:27  * RichK67 thinks - odd timing; this week, 18yrs after graduating I finally get a job that matches my degree title; software engineer...
20:12:55  <peter1138> muwhah
20:13:04  <CIA-3> KUDr * r4981 /branch/yapf/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Sync with trunk (4967:4980)
20:13:57  <RichK67> ah - section 5.17.2 Merging two different trees :)
20:15:10  <RichK67> Merge: start url = yapf, end url=mini IN ??
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20:18:23  <glx> yes, should be that :)
20:18:32  <KUDr> From: YAPF, To: MiniIN
20:18:36  <KUDr> yes
20:19:31  <KUDr> hmm, but it will not work i guess
20:19:50  <KUDr> you are at trunk now
20:20:00  <KUDr> yapf was also synce with trunk
20:20:07  <KUDr> synced
20:20:12  <RichK67> sorry - brb
20:20:16  <KUDr> so it will be there twice
20:20:26  * XeryusTC updates yapf :)
20:20:43  <Sacro> this is confusing
20:20:47  <XeryusTC> mostly translations :(
20:21:03  <XeryusTC> and something that triggers a complete recompile :((
20:22:22  <KUDr> XeryusTC: stdafx.h
20:22:30  <KUDr> that bool
20:22:39  <XeryusTC> ok
20:26:32  <KUDr> aha! From: MiniIN To: YAPF - sounds crazy but it works
20:27:07  <glx> KUDr: why do you want to do that??
20:27:11  <RichK67> hmm... im trying yapf: 4181-4981, to miniIN
20:27:36  <KUDr> RichK67: read doc
20:27:43  <KUDr> there is from: trunk
20:27:53  <KUDr> while merging feature into trunk
20:28:13  <KUDr> so From: target To: source
20:29:15  <KUDr> you are merging yapf feature into MiniIN (trunk)
20:30:21  <RichK67> huh??? it should still be From: yapf, To: miniIN, StoreIn: miniIN
20:30:36  <KUDr> StoreIn: miniIN yes
20:30:51  <KUDr> but opposite i guess, but try what you like
20:31:04  <KUDr> we both are learning
20:31:36  <KUDr> i tried dry run as i told and seems ok
20:32:48  <RichK67> trying again, but from 4180, not 4181
20:33:00  <KUDr> should be same
20:33:04  <KUDr> i did head, head
20:33:35  <RichK67> hmm - i got zippo on that - no files to change!
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20:33:46  <KUDr> zippo?
20:33:52  <KUDr> aha
20:33:55  <RichK67> nothing - zip, nada
20:34:05  <KUDr> try opposite from/to
20:34:19  <KUDr> and it will go
20:34:51  <RichK67> how weird, but yes, it does
20:35:07  <KUDr> exactly as in that example in doc
20:35:26  <KUDr> but agree that it is weird
20:35:49  <KUDr> probably there is some higher logic deep inside
20:36:07  <RichK67> weird, but yes, its section 5.17.2
20:36:24  <Belugas> higher, deep... sound strange on the same sentence :)
20:36:36  <Belugas> COngrats RichK67, and welcome to the club !
20:36:50  <RichK67> muhahahaha... :>
20:36:55  <KUDr> Belugas: same as from target to source
20:37:22  <RichK67> jeepers - yapf is BIG
20:37:24  <Belugas> yes KUDr :) I agree
20:38:24  <RichK67> added 46: updated 219.... that sound about right, KUDr?
20:38:32  <KUDr> no
20:38:40  <KUDr> i must check it
20:38:49  <KUDr> not finished yet
20:38:56  <RichK67> thank god its a dry run then ;)
20:39:17  <KUDr> heh i do merge
20:39:23  <KUDr> want to see it
20:39:34  <KUDr> and try to compile
20:39:44  <KUDr> it should be exactly the yapf
20:41:02  <KUDr> compiles fine
20:41:58  <KUDr> and works!
20:42:06  <KUDr> and it is yapf!
20:42:11  <KUDr> so ok
20:42:30  <RichK67> ok, talk me thru
20:45:27  <KUDr> RichK67: what should i talk about? :)
20:45:58  <RichK67> how i can merge it - it either offers me the numbers i said; or nothing
20:46:09  <KUDr> head, head
20:46:15  <RichK67> yup
20:46:16  <KUDr> they are synced
20:46:24  <KUDr> from MiniIN
20:46:27  <KUDr> to YAPF
20:46:34  <RichK67> from MIniIN to YAPF okies
20:46:34  <KUDr> and merge
20:46:45  <KUDr> stupid i know
20:46:51  <KUDr> but...
20:46:56  <KUDr> works
20:46:58  <RichK67> and the numbers of files are ok?
20:47:07  <KUDr> dunno
20:47:18  <RichK67> ok - ill go for a merge and hope
20:47:37  <KUDr> anyway i didn't modify 216 files
20:47:47  <KUDr> it is problem of the method i guess
20:48:02  <KUDr> or 219
20:48:09  <RichK67> its sure weird
20:48:41  <glx> it will be easier to wait yapf merge in trunk :)
20:49:03  <KUDr> glx: no - it is better to learn something
20:49:13  <KUDr> for me it is very good experience
20:49:24  <KUDr> i will need it at work too
20:49:28  <KUDr> very soon
20:49:28  <RichK67> yeah, agreed - good learning, but a headache!
20:50:23  <KUDr> RichK67: because you feel the responsibility to don't do mistake
20:50:30  <KUDr> but we have good devs
20:50:38  <KUDr> they can repair our mistakes
20:51:08  <RichK67> true, but i also need it for my work, having persuaded them to use SVN & Tortoise (from nothing)
20:51:19  <RichK67> so ive got to be the in-house expert
20:51:24  <KUDr> the same for me
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20:51:34  <Markavian`> hello, anything new?
20:51:39  <RichK67> ok = merged... now to compile & test
20:51:51  <KUDr> i also forced my devs to leave CVS
20:52:28  <KUDr> Markavian`: weekend is here!
20:53:01  <Markavian`> yipeh
20:53:47  <Belugas> Talk for you KUDr :(  I am still chained to my workstation
20:54:22  <KUDr> heh
20:54:26  <KUDr> why?
20:54:43  <Belugas> Not same continent, maybe ;)
20:54:48  <glx> different time zone :)
20:55:05  <KUDr> ah
20:55:30  <RichK67> ok compiling - what is a good test for yapf?
20:55:32  <KUDr> Belugas: you are in US?
20:55:40  <Belugas> close, Canada
20:55:46  <KUDr> aha
20:55:53  <KUDr> RichK67: run
20:56:11  <KUDr> default setting is yapf on for trains and RVs
20:56:25  <KUDr> so demo game must work
20:56:30  <RichK67> lol
20:56:37  <KUDr> and any saved game too
20:56:49  <RichK67> okies - i will try a 0.4.5 game
20:56:55  <KUDr> ok
20:57:02  <RichK67> (i never downloaded 0.4.7!)
20:57:32  <KUDr> i did - to gather some info about crach report
20:58:01  <KUDr> but not big success
20:59:13  <RichK67> compiled
20:59:46  <KUDr> good
20:59:52  <KUDr> then it should be ok
21:03:31  <RichK67> ok - impressed - lag free Pile Transport :)
21:03:35  <KUDr> RichK67: probably you should then sync with yapf
21:04:02  <KUDr> instead of trunk
21:04:20  <RichK67> i can see why, but its the how that kills me ;)
21:04:49  <KUDr> so now i know how to merge yapf into trunk! good experience, really
21:05:18  <KUDr> so only i need permission
21:05:44  <KUDr> and then you will sync with trunk again
21:06:19  <RichK67> yup - sounds good... time to make my first MiniIN patch commit :)
21:06:40  <KUDr> ok
21:07:27  <KUDr> now i see how better SVN is than CVS
21:07:38  <glx> RichK67: don't forget [miniIN] :)
21:07:47  <RichK67> yup, i know ;)
21:09:19  <RichK67> come on CIA
21:09:37  <peter1138> if it's a big commit, CIA won't get it
21:09:48  <KUDr> hmmm
21:09:51  <RichK67> yeah, quite big
21:09:55  <RichK67> :)
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21:10:18  <peter1138> you would've been better off branching directly from YAPF...
21:10:41  <RichK67> yeah, we know that now ;)
21:10:44  <peter1138> as it is you've lost history of all his changes
21:11:01  <KUDr> aha
21:11:05  <KUDr> it is true
21:11:21  <Belugas> on the other hand, it shows how YAPF reacts merging with a simili trunk :)
21:11:27  <Bjarni> ahh, back again :D
21:11:34  <RichK67> yup - clean as a whistle :)
21:11:43  <Bjarni> you all missed me a lot all day, right?
21:11:54  <KUDr> Bjarni: of course
21:12:01  <peter1138> RichK67: you could've deleted the branch and recreated it...
21:12:07  <Belugas> Well... yes of course indeed, very much sir Bjarni
21:12:41  <RichK67> i dont think its a major show-stopping issue
21:12:43  <Bjarni> so, what is that talk about whistles all about?
21:12:52  <peter1138> woowoo!
21:12:58  <Bjarni> LOL
21:13:01  <peter1138> newsounds did you say?
21:13:06  <RichK67> toot toot :)
21:13:11  <peter1138> do-do
21:13:19  <peter1138> hmm
21:13:23  <Belugas> bye bye
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21:13:28  <peter1138> Multistop uses NPF again, heh
21:13:46  <Bjarni> "bye bye".... we could add that when quitting the game
21:14:20  <Belugas_Gone> Diving Week-End Is Officially Started!
21:14:32  <Bjarni> diving weekend?
21:14:34  <KUDr> Belugas: enjoy
21:14:38  <Bjarni> sounds nice
21:14:50  <Bjarni> I got a reading weekend
21:14:53  <Belugas_Gone> I will very much!  A certification , plus apnea
21:14:58  <peter1138> Belugas_Gone: stop that. get back to pseudo code
21:15:00  <Bjarni> I got an exam next monday :s
21:15:12  <Belugas_Gone> 30 metres deep on one breath
21:15:18  <Belugas_Gone> good luck Bjarni
21:15:20  <Belugas_Gone>  and bye all
21:15:22  <Bjarni> thanks
21:15:41  <RichK67> apnea?? i get that :)
21:15:44  <Bjarni> I think I already passed though. It's about internet communication and the 5 layers and stuff like that
21:16:04  <Bjarni> it's just a matter of how good a passing grade I get
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21:16:59  <glx> RichK67: you killed CIA-3 :)
21:18:18  <KUDr> heh
21:21:18  <RichK67> im glad i didnt try to upload the whole MiniIN then ;)
21:22:10  <Bjarni> KUDr: I just read the diff for the big endian commit in YAPF. It looks ok
21:24:34  <Markavian`> new station gfx, very cool.
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21:26:39  <Bjarni> <--- I guess that indicates that the Dutch catenary is drawn well ;)
21:26:48  <KUDr> Bjarni: fine, not my work (i did only stdafx.h)
21:27:42  <Bjarni> KUDr: I only read the makefile part and it looks ok
21:27:52  <Bjarni> except... I just realised
21:28:04  <Bjarni> it still uses one byte on PPC linux
21:28:10  <Bjarni> I better fix that
21:28:23  <KUDr> Bjarni: hmm, ppc linux
21:28:38  <Bjarni> it's not that common, but it's out there
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21:28:43  <KUDr> if we get some, can try it
21:28:55  <Bjarni> I know of at least one guy, who compiles OTTD on his PPC linux
21:29:04  <Bjarni> hmm
21:29:14  <KUDr> then we need him to test it after you fix it
21:29:20  <Bjarni> it was a Dutch guy, but who of them....
21:29:56  <Bjarni> it's like we got too many Dutch people in here. Remembering that it's a Dutch guy is not enough :P
21:31:19  <Sacro>  /WHOIS dutch
21:31:45  <RichK67> grrr.... not beeping working
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21:37:13  <Bjarni> o_O
21:37:20  <Bjarni> EU tax on Emails???
21:37:42  <Bjarni> they got to be joking
21:38:02  <Bjarni> but then again, it's the French guys, who talks about it
21:38:24  <RichK67> KUDr: problems - with the YAPF "patch" in, i cant patch my other patches; i get source misalignments (eg. english.txt is 1 line out, etc.)
21:38:57  <RichK67> KUDr: if i back out YAPF, i can patch my other patches
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21:39:50  <RichK67> KUDr: any ideas?
21:39:55  <KUDr> hmm
21:39:58  <KUDr> thinking
21:40:05  <KUDr> yes
21:40:29  <KUDr> 1) start at the point when yapf was created
21:40:38  <RichK67> (without the yapf-merge, mine becomes trunk again)
21:40:39  <KUDr> 2) add your patches
21:40:45  <KUDr> 3) merge whole yapf
21:40:51  <KUDr> step by step
21:41:02  <KUDr> not without
21:41:03  <RichK67> what, r4181?
21:41:05  <KUDr> before
21:41:09  <KUDr> old trunk
21:41:22  <KUDr> yes probably
21:41:32  <KUDr> if possible
21:41:35  <KUDr> i dunno
21:41:59  <KUDr> when yapf will be in trunk we have the same problem
21:41:59  <RichK67> just not worth the time - ill wait for yapf-in-trunk i think
21:42:18  <KUDr> it will be exactly the same state
21:42:22  <RichK67> doesnt make sense
21:42:32  <KUDr> so we must do it somehow anyway
21:43:12  <KUDr> otherwise i can apply yapf manually on top of your patched trunk
21:43:32  <KUDr> yapf is relatively isolated
21:43:40  <KUDr> so it can be easier
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21:45:35  <KUDr> but really, when yapf is in trunk we have the same problem
21:46:00  <[Shaman]> [@Bjarni]: it was a Dutch guy, but who of them....<< Oi no dissin the dutch :o
21:46:52  <Bjarni> KUDr: just wondering about the YAPF and PPC linux.... why make such a list of all OSes, that should use it? Why not just use #ifdef TTD_BIG_ENDIAN ?
21:47:33  <KUDr> hmm, if only PPC is big endian then yes
21:47:37  <Bjarni> [Shaman]: I didn't mean to offence the Dutch and no, I was not thinking of you ;)
21:47:42  <KUDr> but what about SunOS
21:47:55  <[Shaman]> heh
21:48:17  <[Shaman]> I only fail in compiling ottd on linux :P
21:48:26  <Bjarni> SunOS is big endian, but if I understand the problem correctly, it affects all CPUs, that uses big endian
21:49:02  <Bjarni> KUDr: if you write a quick test app for this, I can test it on SunOS right away
21:49:45  <KUDr> testapp?
21:50:03  <KUDr> for bool?
21:50:36  <KUDr> printf("%d", sizeof(bool));
21:50:42  <KUDr> this is whole app
21:51:08  <KUDr> main() with the line above
21:52:09  <[Shaman]> lol @
21:52:23  <[Shaman]> (Click on center of movie thingie to start for the non-dutch-understanding people )
21:54:50  <XeryusTC> [Shaman]: that's sick
21:55:12  <[Shaman]> sick, but funny to see the response
21:55:27  <Bjarni> KUDr: err, that's a too complex app to make. Can't you think of something simpler
21:55:28  <Bjarni> :p
21:55:32  * Bjarni goes to test this
21:55:43  <KUDr> hmm :)
21:56:00  <KUDr> do it as .cpp
21:56:17  <KUDr> or force c++ compiler to treat it as C++
21:57:05  <Bjarni> test.cpp:3: error: 'printf' was not declared in this scope
21:57:12  <Bjarni> that's stdio.h, right?
21:57:20  <Bjarni> or is it something else in C++?
21:57:22  <KUDr> #include <stdlib.h>
21:57:26  * Bjarni is a C coder
21:57:32  <KUDr> or something similar
21:57:39  <KUDr> it is C
21:58:02  <KUDr> there is no C++ code
21:58:10  <KUDr> except bool type used
21:58:15  <Bjarni> there is bool
21:58:19  <KUDr> hehe
21:58:30  <KUDr> and then you can't code it?
21:58:37  <Bjarni>  /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
21:58:38  <Bjarni> ___gxx_personality_v0
21:58:42  <Bjarni> I guess not
21:58:47  <Bjarni> wtf does that mean?
21:59:05  <KUDr> you are missing personality
21:59:13  <KUDr> you are probably machine
21:59:16  <Bjarni> but how do the computer figure that out?
21:59:23  <KUDr> dunno
21:59:28  <KUDr> must be smart computer
21:59:47  <Bjarni> that goes without saying
21:59:50  <Bjarni> it's mine
21:59:54  <KUDr> smarter than intel or amd
21:59:59  <RichK67> KUDr: it looks like yapf has a mismatch - i checked out a fresh trunk, a fresh yapf; TGP applies OK to trunk, but english.txt misaligned on yapf
22:00:06  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: you shouldn't try to fake Marvin
22:00:15  <Bjarni> ...
22:00:18  <Bjarni> I'm not
22:00:28  <Bjarni> no reason to fake it
22:00:30  <KUDr> RichK67: english.txt is changed in yapf
22:00:36  <KUDr> this could be reasin
22:00:40  <KUDr> reason
22:00:47  <RichK67> it should merge ok, though
22:00:56  <Bjarni> #include <stdio.h>
22:00:57  <Bjarni> int main()
22:00:57  <Bjarni> {
22:00:57  <Bjarni> printf("%d", sizeof(bool));
22:00:57  <Bjarni> }
22:01:04  <Bjarni> that should be ok, right?
22:01:07  <glx> RichK67: or with a conflict to solve
22:01:09  <KUDr> if line numbers are shifted, then it can be problem
22:01:18  <ploppy> Bjarni, did you call the compiler as gcc/cc or g++/c++?
22:01:25  <Bjarni> ahh
22:01:28  <Bjarni> same problem again
22:01:36  <Bjarni> forcing gcc to act as g++
22:01:43  <Bjarni> why do I do that each time? :p
22:01:44  <KUDr> aha
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22:02:43  <RichK67> glx: it should suggest a conflict
22:04:08  <Bjarni> now it got even funnier. It worked well in OSX, but when I moved it to SunOS, I got
22:04:09  <Bjarni> $ g++ -o testapp testapp.cpp
22:04:09  <Bjarni> /usr/unic/libexec/binutils/2.16/bin/ld: warning:, needed by /opt/csw/lib/, may conflict with
22:04:20  <Bjarni> it still says that the bool is 1 byte though
22:05:34  <ploppy> the size of the bool has nothing to do with the processor, it's to do with the c++ ABI of the OS
22:06:38  <Bjarni> well, now I'm checking out the yapf branch and we will see what happens
22:06:46  <Bjarni> btw what was the error when it went wrong?
22:06:54  <Bjarni> I forgot
22:07:32  <Bjarni> hey, it's James Bond time
22:07:38  <ploppy> yapf accidentally wrote over some variables because of the differing bool sizes
22:08:09  <Bjarni> yeah, but how do I quickly learn if that is the case on SunOS?
22:08:13  <KUDr> member offsets in structures differs
22:08:28  <ploppy> the game will assert quickly
22:10:45  * Bjarni wonders why it takes ages to check out the branch
22:11:45  <KUDr> depends on line speed?
22:11:52  <KUDr> i have it slow at home
22:12:00  <KUDr> but very quick at work
22:12:12  <Bjarni> it's at uni, so it's the internet backbone
22:12:30  <Bjarni> I have seen internet downloads measured in mb/s more than once
22:15:08  <gradator> mbits/s ?
22:15:10  <RichK67> im utterly baffled
22:15:29  <Bjarni> gradator: no, m bytes/s
22:16:14  <RichK67> only changes compared to trunk english.txt in TGP are the ones i want. only changes compared to trunk english.txt in YAPF are 3 simple, correct lines: try to put the two together... BANG!
22:16:16  <Bjarni> best speed so far was a 70 mb (m byte) download, that took around 30 sec
22:16:34  <gradator> 2 MB/sec here for DSL connexions (if your are near a DSLAM)
22:16:34  <ln-> milli bytes?
22:16:53  <glx> RichK67: just copy your lines by hand
22:16:55  <Bjarni> I'm not sure what's wrong with either OTTD or SunOS or something else, but I can't compile OTTD right now :(
22:17:01  <Bjarni> ln-: dream on :p
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22:17:26  <RichK67> glx: its more serious - it prevents ALL my patches from just plain patching, and im not doing 30+ patches by hand
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22:17:59  <KUDr> RichK67: so use trunk english.txt
22:18:18  <Bjarni> gradator: I wrote a few lines up, that it's the internet backbone, not DSL or anything like that, but it's directly connected to some optic fibers, so it can handle greater internet speed than your ethernet card, even if you got gigabit ethernet
22:18:36  <RichK67> KUDr: english isnt the only file though
22:18:47  <RichK67> lots have the same problem
22:18:48  <KUDr> hmm
22:18:52  <glx> RichK67: send me one of the patch, I'll try
22:19:08  <RichK67> d/l a clean YAPF then try to apply the patch
22:19:31  <gradator> Bjarni: I know, I am working for an internet operator
22:20:07  <Bjarni> nice
22:20:08  <glx> RichK67: which patch?
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22:20:31  <RichK67> ill pm one to you
22:20:37  <glx> ok
22:21:13  <Bjarni> gradator: then you know as well, that great speed on the internet.. well, it's good, but usually the servers can't keep up, so you might as well just use a decent DSL
22:21:26  <Bjarni> as a single user, you often can't tell the difference
22:22:17  <RichK67> ok, try sirkoz's Smooth Economy patch r4917
22:22:36  <RichK67> sorry 4916
22:22:51  <gradator> Bjarni: true
22:22:55  <RichK67> this time its different files that dont work
22:23:08  <RichK67> english.txt is ok ??? weird huh
22:23:23  <Sacro> anyone here can tell me how to do a bulk table drop in mysql?
22:23:39  <ln-> define a bulk table drop?
22:24:09  <RichK67>  smooth economy patch
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22:25:28  <RichK67> on my yapf checkout, it doesnt like settings.c
22:25:32  <Sacro> ln-: well DROP TABLE tttphpbb_* would be useful
22:27:21  <Markavian`> in PHP you could read the list of tables in a database and remove any tables beggining with ttphpbb_
22:27:28  <glx> RichK67: applies without problem for me
22:27:43  <Markavian`> I think I did something similar but for exporting / backing up specific MySQL tables
22:27:52  <glx> just some offsets but patch handle it well
22:28:10  <RichK67> ah - could it be a dodgy tortoise?
22:28:23  <glx> don't know I'm using patch
22:28:36  <RichK67> hmm... time to d/l patch
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22:31:05  <Sacro> stuff it, ill use sed to generate me some nice mysql script
22:33:06  <ln-> drop database; is always one chance, but...
22:33:56  <RichK67> damn command lines... no cut/paste
22:34:09  <glx> right clic :)
22:34:39  <RichK67> hmm... ta... dumb that ctrl-v doesnt work
22:35:00  <glx> would be cool :)
22:37:14  <Sacro> think i killed php
22:37:23  <Sacro> ln-: i dont want to drop the database, just half of it
22:38:35  <Sacro> whoops, mysql is bogged down
22:38:41  <Sacro> think i confused it
22:38:44  * Sacro hides
22:41:00  <Sacro> ooh ticking all the boxes and clicking drop is sooo much quicked
22:46:44  <RichK67> brb
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22:54:37  <XeryusTC> gah, i hate code that works, and that it doesn't work anymore when someone else touches a completely different part of the code :/
22:56:00  <Bjarni> yeah
22:56:56  <Bjarni> like autoreplace, that fails when reaching a certain condition due to how CmdMoveRailVehicle() acts in that condition
22:57:10  <Bjarni> (or whatever that move train wagon command is named)
22:57:31  <XeryusTC> this is really stupid, i have an important packet that doesnt arive
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22:57:48  <XeryusTC> and the funny part is that the only time it did arive was when the server crashed o_O
22:58:50  <Bjarni> lol
22:58:55  <XeryusTC> i think that he wanted to try to optimize something
22:59:15  <XeryusTC> because the loop looks totaly illogical now :(
22:59:24  <Bjarni> yeah, it works much faster when it skips sending data to the network card :p
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23:00:12  <XeryusTC> omfg, the svn log says that he fixed a logic bug, i think that he created one there
23:00:25  <Bjarni> hehe
23:01:02  * XeryusTC waits for svn to fetch
23:01:51  <XeryusTC> thats not it, but it is another bug
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23:03:24  <XeryusTC> rofl, he made a bug and then fixed it even better then the original
23:03:50  <Sacro> XeryusTC: who did?
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23:04:18  <XeryusTC> Sacro: it's not conserning ottd, im just complaining to release some irritations :)
23:04:19  <Darkvater> damn, bitches are persisting
23:04:24  <Darkvater> could hardly get rid of one
23:04:34  <Sacro> Darkvater: ?
23:05:29  <Darkvater> had some pseudo-girlfriend over
23:05:43  <Darkvater> could hardly work her out of the house
23:07:32  <Sacro> Darkvater: send her here
23:07:44  <CIA-3> richk * r4983 /branch/MiniIN/ (47 files in 6 dirs): [MiniIN]:[YAPF]: YAPF removed as something was preventing my patches applying. Probably my fault tho. :)
23:08:08  * XeryusTC is searching for one line that has changed in about 25 revisions
23:08:18  <Darkvater> Sacro: :)
23:08:55  <Sacro> theres never enough girls in this house
23:10:41  <XeryusTC> Sacro: not enough girls or not enough girls that do certain things ;)
23:11:07  <Sacro> XeryusTC: both
23:11:23  <XeryusTC> :)
23:11:37  <Sacro> theres only so much bash scripting can do
23:12:24  <XeryusTC> woow, finaly found out, the bug was always there but at first it was a very silly bug, now it is an even silier bug :/
23:15:30  <glx> I like that kind of bug :)
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23:16:38  <XeryusTC> gah, i still don't get the information
23:19:48  <Darkvater> < sleep
23:19:56  <XeryusTC> gn Darkvater
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23:27:05  <XeryusTC> AHA!
23:31:48  <CIA-3> richk * r4984 /branch/MiniIN/ (18 files in 2 dirs): [MiniIN]: [TGP]: Added TerraGenesis Perlin.
23:32:49  <Born_Acorn> I get a new digest email for every MiniIN commit! :o
23:33:06  <RichK67> many more to come :)
23:33:56  <Brianetta> Hmm
23:34:00  <Brianetta> Why isn't TGP core?
23:34:09  <RichK67> too many bug
23:34:11  <RichK67> bugs
23:34:16  <Sacro> it should be core
23:34:37  <RichK67> 64x64 causes a lot of CTDs
23:37:52  <XeryusTC> gah, i can't take it anymore *starts acting weird*
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23:49:37  <Vornicus> why does 64x64 cause ctds?
23:50:00  <RichK67> sometimes doesnt generate enough land to place a town
23:50:13  <RichK67> sometimes just blows...
23:50:21  <Vornicus> aha
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23:54:12  <Bjarni> <-- awesome :D
23:55:07  <XeryusTC> that's briliant _O_
23:56:01  <Sacro> ye gods, thats a terrible font
23:57:10  <Bjarni> I guess one guy didn't like that quote when he realised what happened :p
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23:59:13  <Bjarni> I once read that a woman sued her former working place because it was a phone sex company and he had suffered damage after masturbating for hours each day o_O
23:59:36  <gradator> hehe

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