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00:01:35 <Ihmemies> looks like openttdcoop server won't be up anytime soon :P 00:03:32 <RichK67> problems? 00:06:13 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 00:07:40 <XeryusTC> it has been down for a few hours 00:07:49 <XeryusTC> only the SB is down though :( 00:08:59 <CIA-14> richk * r5305 /branch/MiniIN/ (11 files in 3 dirs): [MiniIN]: [RefitInfo]: Added Purchase Window Refit Info patch. 00:09:26 <[Shaman]> e// my new autopilot thingie is working xD 00:09:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75EBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:10:34 <RichK67> Frostregen: ping 00:12:06 <Sacro> RichK67: nice one :) 00:13:29 <RichK67> np - next one coming up ;) 00:17:47 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:18:51 <Ihmemies> and nothing ever happens in the "real" coop server :P 00:23:05 <Frostregen> hm? 00:23:09 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 00:23:33 <[Shaman]> darn 00:23:47 <[Shaman]> just the 2 things my app uses are NOT implemented in MONO 1.1.15 yet :/ 00:24:30 <[Shaman]> ah well 00:24:31 * [Shaman] zzz 00:25:41 <arex\> huh 00:25:42 <arex\> coop? :) 00:26:42 <Frostregen> [02:12:35] <RichK67> Frostregen: ping 00:26:45 <Frostregen> ? 00:28:35 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:29:16 <Sacro> Frostregen: its RichK67: pong :P 00:29:46 <CIA-14> richk * r5306 /branch/MiniIN/ (32 files in 5 dirs): 00:29:46 <CIA-14> [MiniIN]: [CopyPaste]: Added Copy Paste patch. 00:29:46 <CIA-14> Thanks to Frostregen for MiniIN version of patch. 00:29:57 <RichK67> i found the answer ;) 00:30:08 <Frostregen> ok ;) 00:30:23 <Frostregen> what was it btw? 00:30:45 <RichK67> i needed to know which were the extra new files; just command_queue.h, command_queue.c, and copy_paste_gui.c ... yeah?? 00:30:53 <Frostregen> exactly 00:30:56 <RichK67> and copypaste.grf 00:31:29 <RichK67> ok - added all 4 to SVN, and set linestyle to native, and keywords to Id :) 00:32:10 <Frostregen> as long as it works ;) 00:32:17 <RichK67> seemed to 00:32:42 <RichK67> didnt check it all, but it cut/pasted the COAL DROPOFF in Pile Transport nicely :) 00:33:26 <RichK67> though it does seem weird cut/pasting one end of a tunnel, but not the other! 00:33:58 <Frostregen> yeah, the check for the second tunnel exit is not implemented 00:34:11 <RichK67> could be dangerous 00:34:21 <Frostregen> it is dangerous ;) 00:34:36 <RichK67> lol ok... i was being kind ;) 00:34:42 <Sacro> oooh, segfaultage 00:37:37 * Sacro considers putting his name down for medical trials 00:39:19 <Frostregen> the tunnel problem is nr. 2 on my todo list. will be fixed soon anyway 00:42:29 <RichK67> i think the solution is "if no tunnel entrance & exit, do not build tunnel" 00:48:24 <RichK67> time to go... gn 00:48:29 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 00:49:53 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-38-90.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 00:50:20 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498DE59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 01:20:49 *** orudge [n=orudge@81.157.18.207] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:30:29 *** StarLite [n=Star@ip51cdf126.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:44:19 *** ceed [i=ceed@ceed.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:49:41 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-103-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 02:07:22 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:40:41 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [] 02:41:25 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 02:53:59 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 03:44:31 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 03:51:03 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Connection error: In Soviet Russia, connection takes over Soviet Russia!"] 03:52:28 *** egladil_ [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:01:55 *** egladil_ibook [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:04:41 *** Frostrain [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-140-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 04:09:34 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:17:05 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:20:11 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:21:23 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:28:42 *** Vornotron [n=vorn@64-252-96-54.adsl.snet.net] has joined #openttd 04:31:18 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 04:37:35 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:37:53 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 04:38:22 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 04:39:41 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@69.0.80.191] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:45:55 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81508.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:54:28 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:01:27 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:17:30 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:36:01 <DaleStan> !seen Truelight 05:40:50 <DaleStan> TL|Away: The DOS TTDPatch nightly completely failed to build for some reason. (Didn't even try to build, AFAICT) ItNot a problem for me, but I thought you might want to look into it. 06:21:06 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 06:51:27 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387D4FE.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:55:32 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:08:35 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387D04C.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:15:46 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181112134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:15 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 07:20:33 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has quit [Client Quit] 07:25:53 *** Mackensen [n=cfulton@carbon.deepthought.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:35:55 *** peter1138 [n=peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:39:56 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:43:56 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:48:23 *** peter1138 [n=peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 07:49:28 <CIA-14> tron * r5307 /trunk/saveload.c: Remove two unnecessary indirections which used function pointers instead of directly calling the functions 07:53:35 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 08:09:50 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:10:22 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:53 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 08:25:30 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:26:11 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 08:26:20 <Wolf01> hi boys 08:27:13 <Wolf01> can someone look my diff for errors? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=456030#456030 08:31:30 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 08:33:55 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181088049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:34:32 <peter1138> Wolf01: you've not actually changed _display_opt from a byte to a word... 08:34:43 <Wolf01> oh 08:35:13 <Wolf01> where is to change? 08:35:28 <TL|Away> DaleStan: and the nightlies are 2 hours late.... 08:35:59 <TL|Away> DaleStan: but it did try to compile the DOS 08:36:06 <TL|Away> just some minutes after you reported it 08:37:16 <peter1138> Wolf01: just search for it 08:37:55 <Wolf01> there are at least 15 files with _display_opt, i have to change it in each file? 08:38:27 <peter1138> no 08:38:32 <peter1138> there's only one with a declaration 08:38:50 <anboni> morning folks 08:40:01 <Wolf01> is only the VARDEF byte _display_opt; in variables.h? 08:40:15 <anboni> could anyone tell me why a {STRING1} in the language file eats two arguments? ie, it uses my SetDParam(0,...), then discards my SetDParam(1,...) which was supposed to get used by the {NUM} next in the string 08:40:52 <Wolf01> and about disabling the transparency on main title, i done it correctly? 08:41:30 <peter1138> Wolf01: that's the one 08:41:36 <peter1138> Wolf01: probably, didn't look too hard 08:44:02 <peter1138> anboni: string1 = a string that consumes one argument 08:44:02 <Wolf01> variables.h:271: error: `word' does not name a type ?_? 08:44:08 <peter1138> i.e. it's supposed to happen 08:44:11 <peter1138> Wolf01: uint16 08:44:46 <Wolf01> -_- 08:44:48 <anboni> peter1138, but isn't argument 0 the one it's supposed to consume? 08:45:16 <peter1138> argument 0 is the string. argument 1 is the parameter for that string 08:46:00 <anboni> so the string i feed to it could have variable tags included itself? 08:46:16 <peter1138> yes 08:46:37 <anboni> cool, that may be useful for the next step of my 'project' :) 08:47:09 <anboni> so what tag should i then use if i just have 1 piece of text to display? 08:47:37 <peter1138> {STRING} 08:49:11 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181112134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:49:33 <anboni> hmm.. that one is kinda too obvious :) from what i read from strings.c, i sorta concluded (clearly wrong) that {STRING} wasn't supposed to be used 08:49:56 <anboni> yay! it's working.. thanks :) 08:51:41 <Wolf01> ok, it works :D thank you peter1138 08:58:34 <TL|Away> t 08:59:26 <peter1138> hmm 08:59:36 <peter1138> not sure on this tgp map generation 08:59:39 <peter1138> looks nice 09:00:11 <peter1138> separate hilly/mountainous & smooth/rough controls don't make much sense 09:00:26 <peter1138> and i've got no oil refineries :( 09:01:23 <peter1138> hmm, now there's a bug 09:01:41 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:01:41 <peter1138> fund industry with not enough money will still terraform land 09:01:48 <peter1138> Hackykid: fix it :D 09:02:08 <Hackykid> eh 09:02:12 <Hackykid> morning 09:05:01 <Wolf01> hi Hackykid, i did the patch! 09:06:55 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:07:07 <peter1138> ah, it's a TGP bug, heh 09:08:05 <Hackykid> Wolf01: congrats! :-) 09:08:14 <Wolf01> do you want to try it? 09:10:32 <Hackykid> heh, sure, gimme 09:10:41 <Wolf01> here is it http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=456030#456030 09:10:52 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DE59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:12:08 <Wolf01> maybe i can upload also a compiled binary and the lang file, so more people can try it 09:12:09 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:14:17 <Wolf01> i was thinking about a transparency cycling with shift+X which cycle all 4 transparencies plus all four together, and also make catenary transparent 09:15:55 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 09:25:03 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54947BAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:25:52 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 09:26:56 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946A5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:38 <Hackykid> hmm, yay, reverting the additional orders stuff allowed me to load my savegame again 09:30:56 <anboni> how would i insert a number into a string if i didn't want to use {NUM}? 09:35:19 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:37:15 <CIA-14> tron * r5308 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: Replace an array of function pointers with a switch: It's shorter, more comprehensible, less dependent on magic numbers 09:44:00 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolfolo|AWAY 09:44:00 <Wolfolo|AWAY> Sono away:[ afk ] lasciate pure un messaggio in segreteria 09:47:09 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has joined #openttd 09:59:49 *** v12aml [n=v12aml@62.140.240.206] has joined #openttd 09:59:57 *** v12aml [n=v12aml@62.140.240.206] has left #openttd ["ÎÁÄÏÅÌÏ..."] 10:12:34 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:18:20 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has joined #openttd 10:18:52 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:19:57 *** Trenskow^ is now known as Trenskow 10:23:21 <anboni> i dont suppose using sprintf is the right way for constructing strings for in-game display? :) 10:26:28 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:01 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:29:50 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-197-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:33:59 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 10:35:13 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 10:35:25 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has joined #openttd 10:40:44 *** StarLite [n=Star@ip51cdf126.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:49:33 <KUDr> [11:00:23] <peter1138> and i've got no oil refineries :( <-- did you try to increase "Max distance from edge for Oil Refineries" in "Patches/Terrain"? 11:00:29 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 11:03:14 <anboni> hmm.. a train with 42 engines (or in this case 21 Millennium Z1) does some interesting things... leaves the depot at 2kph then accelerates to somewhat normal speeds, then for no obvious reason drops to 2kph again for a loooong time 11:03:53 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:04:40 <hylje> 42 engines.. :D 11:04:53 <eleusis> :-\ 11:05:10 <anboni> i was bored :) 11:06:27 <anboni> and i'm still trying to figure out a way to make my loading indicators work properly and display all cargo instead of just the first 11:07:32 <eleusis> loading indicators? 11:08:11 <anboni> http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/yay3.png 11:09:02 <eleusis> cool 11:09:16 <eleusis> what do the numbers mean? :) 11:09:26 <anboni> :/ 11:09:41 <anboni> first is currently loaded, second is total capacity 11:09:43 <eleusis> what :-\ 11:09:54 <eleusis> ok 11:10:09 <eleusis> what's the 'LV' or something, in front of that? 11:10:25 <anboni> it's the abbreviation for the cargo type (livestock, in this case) 11:10:29 <eleusis> ahh 11:10:51 <eleusis> why not show a percentage instead of loaded/capacity? ;) 11:11:46 <anboni> hmm... now that isn't such a bad idea at all :) 11:11:54 <eleusis> :D 11:12:20 <eleusis> or even a nice little progress bar, if it's not too hard! ;P 11:14:09 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:16:54 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:24:36 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176127133.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:31:29 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 11:31:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 11:31:39 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 11:31:47 <Darkvater> morning (in certain timezones) 11:31:53 <XeryusTC> hmm 11:32:02 <XeryusTC> there is a terraform bug in r5298 11:32:10 <anboni> morning Darkvater 11:32:23 <XeryusTC> afternoon Darkvater 11:32:30 <Darkvater> what kind? 11:32:46 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946A5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [""cal 9 1752""] 11:33:17 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 11:33:22 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946A5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:33:31 <XeryusTC> http://xeryustc.cjb.net/openttd/bug.pcx <- to lazy to convert 11:34:11 <Darkvater> why people just don't save SS in PNG is beyond my comprehension 11:34:24 <XeryusTC> because i dont have libpng :P 11:34:45 <Darkvater> which is stupid 11:34:47 <XeryusTC> still need to download it 11:34:54 <Darkvater> what OS? 11:34:55 * XeryusTC lazy 11:35:00 <XeryusTC> windows 11:35:08 <Darkvater> how damn hard is it? 11:35:15 <Darkvater> I suppose you don't have zlib either? 11:35:17 <XeryusTC> dunno 11:35:26 <XeryusTC> i do have zlib 11:35:34 <Darkvater> so why don't you have libpng? 11:35:42 <Darkvater> they're in the same zip file o_O 11:35:53 <XeryusTC> hmm 11:36:12 <XeryusTC> i do have a libpng file :) 11:36:14 <eleusis> :-\ 11:36:40 * eleusis slaps XeryusTC around with a png image of a trout 11:38:09 <Hackykid> hmm, indeed, i cant seem to terraform any tile with a rail on it 11:38:33 <Darkvater> motherfcuking terraforming shit 11:38:35 <Hackykid> hmm, sometimes i can 11:38:50 <Hackykid> indeed 11:38:51 *** egladil_ [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:42:37 <anboni> http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/yay4.png+ 11:42:41 <anboni> oops http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/yay4.png 11:42:58 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:43:32 <eleusis> anboni++ :) 11:43:40 <anboni> :) 11:44:17 <XeryusTC> :) 11:44:53 <anboni> only downside.. if a vehicle can take more than one cargo type, and it's set to full load with the option set to leave when one cargo type is full... the train will leave before 100% 11:45:49 <XeryusTC> that depends on your patch settings 11:46:09 <eleusis> um 11:46:20 <eleusis> you can get the train to leave when one cargo type is full? 11:46:30 <anboni> yeah, there's a patch setting for that 11:46:31 <XeryusTC> yes 11:46:45 <eleusis> hm, never seen it.. 11:46:48 <XeryusTC> see the second patch in the Stations settings 11:46:57 <eleusis> then again, i usually have single-cargo-type trains 11:47:17 <anboni> is there a functional difference between case x: { } break; and case x: { break; } ? 11:47:17 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.138] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:47:29 <XeryusTC> anboni: no 11:47:56 <anboni> thought so.. seeing both styles used in this piece of code 11:49:29 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:49:33 <Wolf01> darkvater, i saw that you fixed the terraforming the foundations, correct, but is possible to have the possibility to terraform everywhere (into foundations limit) like TTDPatch? this help a lot when you want to place a tunnel between 2 parallel tracks without demolish them 11:50:25 <Darkvater> it is half-fixed, and now broken in other places 11:50:48 <Darkvater> and I don't think that'll be possible until we get rid of the fucking ugly foundations crap that is the legacy of ttd(patch) 11:51:30 <hylje> fugly 11:51:34 <White_Rabbit> what crap? the graphics? 11:51:43 <hylje> no, i think he means the hacky code 11:52:01 <Darkvater> the code..it's a nightmare 11:52:15 <hylje> gief examples too 11:52:32 <eleusis> btw, why aren't the source files under src/ instead of being at the root of the source tree? :) 11:52:52 <Darkvater> because all there is is source? 11:53:46 <eleusis> there are other files like COPYING, BUGS, etc 11:54:11 <Darkvater> also part of the source ;p 11:54:23 <eleusis> heh 11:58:05 *** Mackensen [n=cfulton@carbon.deepthought.org] has joined #openttd 11:59:33 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:59:53 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:01:09 <anboni> hmm.. the percentage doesnt get updated consistently :/ 12:07:02 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-103-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:09:33 <XeryusTC> anboni: that's probably because industries produce alot at the same time 12:09:58 <XeryusTC> and not just small amounts spread over the same amount of time 12:10:37 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:10:38 <anboni> well.. i have the train next to a farm, loading livestock.. and i can see some livestock get listed in the station waiting list briefly, but the % stays unchanged 12:11:07 <anboni> but this might be a problem local to this pc.. on the other pc, it seems to work better 12:12:07 <Ihmemies> coop sandbox is still.. down? 12:12:32 <XeryusTC> Ihmemies: yes 12:13:09 <anboni> so... http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/loadingindicators.diff .. any comments on the code or anything else? 12:15:52 * eleusis peeks 12:16:03 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp24-31.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 12:18:41 <XeryusTC> SetDParam(0, ((tot_cargo[0]*100)/tot_cargo[1])); -> SetDParam(0, ((tot_cargo[0]/tot_cargo[1])*100)); <- maybe use that more common form 12:19:33 <anboni> XeryusTC, that's what i had originally, but since it's uints, the / gets rounded to 0 or 1, so the display would end up either 0% or 100% :) 12:19:39 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:20:32 <anboni> i'll add a comment to explain though.. 12:20:51 <XeryusTC> ok 12:21:02 <XeryusTC> shouldn't it keep it's float value? 12:21:17 <XeryusTC> its* 12:21:25 <anboni> apperently it doesnt :) 12:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> / with 2 ints as operands will always give an int 12:21:40 <anboni> not completely sure how that's supposed to work 12:21:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> not a float 12:21:41 <Hackykid> its better to multiply first and then divide 12:21:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes 12:22:19 <Hackykid> allows you to keep using ints with a minimum of precision loss 12:22:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> either that, or cast one operand to float, and then round in the end. but that is not a wise way to do 12:22:40 <anboni> yeah.. figured floats would be overkill (and too performance expensive) here 12:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> lots of misunderstandings could be avoided if C distinguished between integer and float division (like e.g. pascal does) 12:25:13 <eleusis> can cargo_cap ever be 0? 12:25:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> engine with no wagons? 12:25:41 <anboni> ooooh 12:25:58 <eleusis> might get SIGFPE on division :P 12:26:58 <anboni> Floating point exception 12:27:03 <anboni> thanks for catching that one eleusis :) 12:27:19 <eleusis> heh 12:27:22 <eleusis> np 12:27:44 <anboni> (not that it'd be very likely, you'd have to send an engine without wagons to a station with the full load option set.. but still) 12:27:59 <Hackykid> it happens 12:28:13 <Hackykid> autoreplacing to an engine with doesnt allow freight wagons... 12:28:32 <anboni> yeah, good point.. with the more advanced grf's it could happen automatically 12:28:34 <Hackykid> quite annoying, really heh 12:28:35 <roboman> gnight 12:28:44 <eleusis> night 12:29:00 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:29:00 <eleusis> ah, another aussie :P 12:31:02 <anboni> ok, that situation's fixed as well:) 12:35:14 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181088049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 12:43:33 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Disappearing /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\"] 12:46:03 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 13:11:20 <Wolf01> i want to initialize a variable in main_gui.c, where i can put it? 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13:59:32 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-200-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:00:49 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-140-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:30 <Sacro> afternoon all 14:01:43 <Frostregen> hi 14:02:00 <Sacro> hey Frostregen, how are you? 14:02:48 <Frostregen> tired ;D 14:02:59 <Sacro> not good :( 14:03:23 <Frostregen> it is weekend, it is ok 14:04:41 <Sacro> true 14:05:45 <Frostregen> hmm, was there no nightly yesterday? 14:06:01 <Sacro> yeah there was 14:06:19 <Frostregen> 5286? 14:06:36 <glx> but brianetta didn't update his server 14:06:40 <Frostregen> ok^^ 14:07:02 <Frostregen> this is where i look 14:07:16 <Sacro> r5298 was last nightly 14:08:49 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:10:06 <Wolf01> i thought that 5306 was last nightly 14:10:46 *** egladil_ibook [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 14:11:13 <Sacro> Wolf01: dont thinkmso 14:12:53 <Wolf01> uhm, correct, i dlded it this morning :P 14:13:31 <Wolf01> directly from the svn 14:13:33 <Sacro> Latest nightly was built from revision r5298, created at Sat Jun 17 20:02:19 CEST 2006. 14:13:42 <Sacro> http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php 14:13:53 <Wolf01> yes i'm looking at it 14:14:01 <Sacro> lol :) 14:14:32 <Wolf01> sacro, go try my new wonderful feature: selective transparency :D 14:14:46 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-140-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["und weg"] 14:15:04 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=456030#456030 here is it 14:17:36 <Sacro> Wolf01: i might :) 14:17:43 <Sacro> if its what i think it is 14:17:45 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:18:03 <Wolf01> and what you think that it is? 14:18:33 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3701B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:40 <Sacro> allows you to make certain things transparent and not others 14:18:51 <Wolf01> yes it is :D 14:20:23 <Sacro> i thought about that idea 2 weeks ago when i was laid in bed trying to sleep, just never got round to coding it 14:21:11 <Wolf01> you thoughr also the selection cycling? 14:21:18 <Wolf01> with shift+X 14:21:24 <Sacro> yep 14:21:28 <Wolf01> lol 14:21:40 <Sacro> and then i woke up the next day and totally forgot 14:22:07 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:22:33 <Wolf01> uhm... i noticed now that i inverted the transparency hotkey to make all transparent (as norma behaviour) and only player's buildings... but only in the executable, i hope XD 14:23:13 <Sacro> lol 14:24:49 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:24:55 <Wolf01> case 'X' | !WKC_SHIFT | !WKC_CTRL: and case 'X': are the same thing or the behaviour is different? 14:25:07 <Sacro> ? 14:25:21 <Wolf01> (only to optimize the code a little) 14:26:06 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:26:10 <Wolf01> this because i have also ctrl+x and shift+x 14:26:57 <Sacro> hmm, it'll break against the track copying patch 14:27:21 <Sacro> if they use C_x for cut 14:28:26 <Wolf01> i can always use alt+x 14:34:51 <Sacro> true 14:35:58 <Wolf01> the next step is to make catenary become transparent 14:36:05 <Sacro> :D 14:36:30 <Sacro> avahi doesnt see samba shares :( 14:37:35 <Frostregen> there is no "cut" only ctrl+c and ctrl+v are used 14:39:53 <Wolf01> i wonder if is sufficient to copy and paste the transparent function where is the catenary code... 14:42:01 <Sacro> maybe 14:42:27 <Wolf01> but...where is the catenary drawing code? 14:42:45 <Wolf01> (maybe elrails) 14:43:16 <Wolf01> found it :P 14:44:09 <Wolf01> seem a bit more complicated than house drawing :/ 14:44:43 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:45:41 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-51-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:46:12 <Wolf01> i try, but i not hope that it will work at the first time 14:47:48 <Sacro> hmm 14:51:39 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-51-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["BRB :o"] 14:54:54 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-51-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:58:43 <Wolf01> uhm... here i need tron which is not present 14:58:59 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.134] has joined #openttd 15:06:03 *** WR-away [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:06:38 <peter1138> Darkvater: your terraform fix stops valid terraforming too :( 15:07:02 <peter1138> Darkvater: ah, you're probably aware 15:16:33 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-51-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:16:39 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-51-149.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:21:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> Wolf01: maybe it'd be sufficient to disable the catenary completely 15:22:29 <Wolf01> no, you won't see the difference between normal and elrail 15:22:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you can always turn it on and off ;) 15:22:45 <Wolf01> now i'm at half of the work, i made transparent wires :P 15:23:09 <Wolf01> now, transparent pylons 15:23:45 <Wolf01> i can always add the variable to make it invisible like trees 15:24:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh, and suggestion: make a mode that makes the electric and non-electric tracks distinguishable clours (like red and blue or something) 15:24:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> *colours* 15:25:05 <Wolf01> into the minimap? 15:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, the normal map 15:25:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> like the transparency mode 15:26:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> or even within that transparency mode 15:27:37 *** GoneWacko[LAN] [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:27:57 <Wolf01> mmmm 15:28:33 <CIA-14> tron * r5309 /trunk/ (clear_cmd.c rail.h rail_map.h station_map.h train_gui.c): Partially fix the rail header dependency fiasco: rail_map.h now depends on rail.h and not the other way round anymore 15:28:38 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:33:06 <Wolf01> good, i did it! now transparent catenary XD 15:35:43 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has joined #openttd 15:37:06 <Sacro> w00t :D 15:37:15 <Sacro> as soon as its done send it to RichK :P 15:38:04 <Wolf01> i think is done, it only needs to be rewritten in developer-style and not first-time-to-c-style 15:38:54 <Wolf01> a little optimization also, because i think that i declared some variables in the wrong place 15:38:59 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:39:54 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 15:40:21 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41:45 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 15:44:36 <Wolf01> uhm, i forget to make transparent the catenary on the bridges :P 15:46:27 <Wolf01> oh, is more complicated than the normal rail :O 15:47:07 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-166.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["und weg"] 15:54:03 <Wolf01> uhm, i found a glitch, when comes out a newspaper the viewport is not correctly re-drawn, so there are sprites with half transparency 15:54:44 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 15:55:09 <MeusH> hi 15:56:49 <ln-> MeusH: what does "you aren't even allowed at him you punk" mean, in plain English? 15:57:08 <MeusH> that was a common typo 15:57:12 <MeusH> some words were gone away 15:57:22 <MeusH> and this is the result 15:57:53 <hylje> a common typo :) 15:58:04 <MeusH> probably I ctrl+Ved the old version 15:58:11 <MeusH> replacing the one I wanted to write 15:58:13 <MeusH> it was something 15:58:21 <Darkvater> peter1138: yes I am. Found it what caused it but then there are some other terraforming problems present (although not THAT bad) 15:58:43 <MeusH> you aren't ... enough to even look at him, you punk 15:58:59 <MeusH> I didn't knew what to put as ... and I ctrl+Ved the wrong version 15:59:37 <Darkvater> will try to sort it out this evening 15:59:48 <MeusH> but hey, that dude probably hasn't found the ban log yet 15:59:56 <MeusH> TrueLight: ping time 16:00:02 <Darkvater> the point is I need to look at the tile in its ORIGINAL form, not how it is going to be... and some additional stuff as well I suppose 16:01:38 <MeusH> Darkvater: Seems TrueLight is away, I'd like to discuss about the OpenTTD website. Are you the right person, besides TL? 16:01:57 <Sacro> bbl all 16:02:03 <MeusH> bye Sacro 16:02:08 <Sacro> bye MeusH 16:02:11 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-200-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05:19 <Wolf01> ok, done also the transparent catenary over the bridge 16:19:46 <MeusH> bye 16:19:51 *** MeusH is now known as MeusH[away] 16:24:41 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has quit ["Have a nice day."] 16:29:15 <Ihmemies> coop died again. 16:29:37 <Wolf01> again vandalism? 16:30:12 <Ihmemies> server just crashed :P 16:30:23 <Ihmemies> it crashed yesterday evening too. 16:30:57 <Ihmemies> and of course the software is so ancient it doesn't boot itself up again automatically ;) 16:31:58 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:26 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 16:33:40 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:47 *** GoneWacko[LAN] 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they build a station that takes your online source of income, and then buys exclusive 20:42:59 <Trenskow> if that company is much bigger that yours, it can just keep buying it back, until you are out of money, and your officially done 20:43:29 <Trenskow> online = only 20:44:29 <Trenskow> a year without income is alot, and the only survival chance, is by selling all your trains and tracks, and try if you can make a new line 20:44:43 <Sacro> hmm 20:46:07 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498F75B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 20:46:37 <Trenskow> it doesn't make sense, that "buy exclusive" isn't exclusive 20:47:47 <peter1138> i'd like an option to disable it in MP 20:47:55 <peter1138> but then i'm too used to sandboxes ;) 20:48:10 <Trenskow> MP ? 20:48:16 <peter1138> multiplayer... 20:48:21 <Trenskow> ahh yes 20:49:24 *** egladil_ [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:50:36 <MeusH> cya 20:50:41 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 20:51:42 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:54:12 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-197-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:56:21 *** egladil_ibook [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:57:29 <[Shaman]> I wonder what happens if i try to compile Ottd from gmcs O_O 20:58:03 <peter1138> seeing as openttd is not c# ... not a lot ... 20:59:09 <[Shaman]> eh 20:59:17 <[Shaman]> or c++.net :P 20:59:24 <[Shaman]> it might just compile it normally 20:59:55 <peter1138> gmcs is a c# compiler, so... 21:00:41 * [Shaman] shrugs 21:00:43 <[Shaman]> might just work :P 21:00:43 <peter1138> but System.IO.File doesn't contain WriteAllText or ReadAllText 21:00:46 <peter1138> which is annoying me 21:01:00 <[Shaman]> It don't? :o 21:01:14 <peter1138> newp 21:01:38 <peter1138> otoh, i've only got 1.1.13.6 21:02:43 <[Shaman]> 1.1.15 is the latest beta iirc 21:02:47 <peter1138> yeah 21:03:10 <peter1138> writing C# in vim is painful 21:03:37 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 21:04:00 <peter1138> Read/WriteAllText was added in r55475 21:04:00 <peter1138> hmm 21:04:09 <[Shaman]> System.Diagnostic.Process lacks a few things as well. 21:04:15 <peter1138> 12th january 21:04:19 <[Shaman]> their at 62000-ish iirc 21:05:08 <peter1138> they're 21:10:40 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:24 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:12:32 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181088049.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:13:04 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 21:14:51 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498F75B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:49 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 21:18:43 <[Shaman]> yar, that. 21:20:05 <hylje> YARRRRR 21:20:19 <hylje> implement pirates as a disaster 21:20:26 <hylje> robs ships empty 21:21:13 <Sacro> lol 21:21:39 <Prof_Frink> hylje: draw a pirate ship as a replacement for the small sub 21:22:00 <Sacro> VIKINGS :D 21:22:12 <Prof_Frink> It won't go plundering, but it would be PIRATES! 21:22:51 <Wolf01> i want see an old galeon that tries to aboard a super oil tanker XD 21:23:18 <Prof_Frink> a supertanker... full of Ninjas! 21:23:26 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:23:33 <Prof_Frink> Let the final battle commence! 21:25:19 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.134] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 21:25:37 <Wolf01> i was thinking if is possible to slow the daytime in the game, like a day long the double 21:25:46 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:27:11 <hylje> vikings would be rather absurd 21:27:21 <hylje> likewise for a galeon 21:29:00 <Sacro> Wolf01: yeah, i did a daylength patch ages ago 21:30:19 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:31:10 <Wolf01> and it worked well? 21:31:55 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:32 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:36:51 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Don't give me logic, give me emotions!"] 21:37:36 *** valhalla1hiding is now known as valhallasw 21:37:39 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.134] has joined #openttd 21:44:39 *** Star-Lite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:44:39 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:45:19 <Wolf01> i'm looking at misc.c, there is a valid reason for limiting the year to 2090? 21:45:52 <anboni> probably because a bunch of internal time counters can't handle any more 21:46:04 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.134] 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pirates yarr 22:31:13 <Sacro> what patch? 22:31:22 <Sacro> hylje: newpirates! 22:31:32 <anboni> loading % indicators on a vehicle statusbar 22:31:34 <hylje> now on land too! 22:31:35 <hylje> :P 22:31:56 <anboni> Sacro, http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/yay4.png 22:31:57 <hylje> the landscape destroying disasters are lame 22:32:02 <hylje> gief me pirates 22:33:16 <Sacro> anboni: ah yea 22:33:44 <[Shaman]> anboni: maybe "Loading (59%)" ? 22:34:05 <[Shaman]> with an option to change it to "Loading (123/456)" 22:34:11 <anboni> although apart from the very first post in the thread about the improved order handling, no mention seems to have been made of the status bar thingy 22:34:31 <[Shaman]> I'd use the status bar thingie myself tbh :P 22:34:35 <Sacro> hylje: http://www.londonist.com/attachments/londonist_mark/captain%20pugwash.gif 22:34:47 <[Shaman]> I allways hunt down trains at stations and use the info window to see how long it takes them to fill 22:34:55 *** Zavior 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It's more likely to get in MiniIN 22:39:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> the better place for patches to be included should be flyspray 22:40:16 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause2, i'll make a post with a screenshot, and also post it in flyspray (next to the other patch i submitted as a fix for a bug i reported a while ago :) ) 22:50:15 <Wolf01> good night guys 22:50:21 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has left #OpenTTD [] 22:54:51 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 22:55:46 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 22:56:19 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498DC63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:00:38 <[Shaman]> anboni: Did you take in note the 'full load' thingie patch where it considders one type fully loaded as 100% load? 23:00:49 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:06:15 <Sacro> hmm 23:07:36 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D5DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:13:39 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:13:50 <Sacro> ooh its him :P 23:14:06 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:15:16 <RichK67> anboni: are you watching??? 23:15:22 <[Shaman]> O_O 23:15:26 *** Schamane_ is now known as SchAmane 23:15:27 <[Shaman]> clairvoyant i tell you! 23:15:31 <[Shaman]> -00:37:15- [[Shaman]]: anboni: get RichK to put it in miniIN :P 23:15:39 <[Shaman]> 45 minutes later he comes in and asks for him... 23:15:41 <CIA-14> richk * r5311 /branch/MiniIN/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 23:15:41 <CIA-14> [MiniIN]: [LoadingIndicators]: Added Loading Indicators patch. Shows loading %age in vehicle windows. 23:15:41 <CIA-14> Many thanks to anboni for patch. 23:15:55 <RichK67> :) 23:15:58 <[Shaman]> !!! 23:16:02 <[Shaman]> SEE! 23:16:02 <[Shaman]> :p 23:16:14 <[Shaman]> damnit 23:16:24 <[Shaman]> now i have to recompile miniIN again :p 23:16:28 <RichK67> one of those "so simple, why on earth isnt this in trunk?" patches ;) 23:16:39 <[Shaman]> heh 23:18:13 <RichK67> i think the loading indicator is a great little patch - purely cosmetic, and gives useful info; imo, a no-brainer for trunk 23:18:20 * [Shaman] nods 23:19:58 <[Shaman]> so, what's the next step? :P 23:20:37 <RichK67> for MiniIN?? 23:22:02 <[Shaman]> ye 23:22:49 <RichK67> probably aircraft queuing patch - cobraA1 is looking at getting it working for the multiple runways of the intercontinental first 23:23:17 <[Shaman]> nice 23:24:01 <RichK67> i want to add the PNGload patch into TGP, (and then into MiniIN)... so you can start a new game with random towns & inds on a pre-defined terrain 23:24:26 <RichK67> ie. dont generate it, load it 23:24:32 * [Shaman] nods 23:26:53 <RichK67> however, i also want to put together a ScenGen suite; better terrain tools, etc. like my dither desert/rocks patch but for more things... 23:27:24 <[Shaman]> nice 23:29:32 <RichK67> me & KUDr will probably look at optimising the town & industry placement... shouldnt be too hard - the biggest delay is that when placing an industry, it has to check all the surrounding tiles to confirm there are no others nearby. this could be speeded up, by having an industry list that has X&Y of all industries, and just check down the list 23:30:15 * [Shaman] nods 23:31:10 <RichK67> it is daft that it takes 4-5secs to do the 2048x2048 terrain, and then 60-70secs to do the towns & industries... gotta be some slack code there needing the KUDr magic ;) 23:31:33 <[Shaman]> time to compile the new MiniIN :o 23:31:38 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallasw`hidin 23:31:42 *** valhallasw`hidin is now known as valhalla`hiding 23:32:01 <[Shaman]> eh, RichK67, I got 2048x2048 with only noise-generating down to.. 1ms? :o 23:32:22 <[Shaman]> if i add shit to it it gets worse tho 23:32:33 <[Shaman]> but the perlin part isn't that stressy 23:32:39 <[Shaman]> i think 90% is town/industry placement 23:32:50 <[Shaman]> and 10% is ottd-needed-things 23:35:41 <[Shaman]> PerlinGenTime: 485 ms 23:35:51 <[Shaman]> new added 'feature' i presume? :P 23:36:15 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:36:23 <RichK67> well - there is one quick optimisation; when it loops through the industries, it checks the distance before it checks if it is a similar type - swap those two around, and it will abandon before it does the distance calculation - gets significant on big maps 23:36:52 * [Shaman] nods 23:38:04 <RichK67> also, it doesnt check that the "ok to have industries close by" option is checked, until its done all the other checks... again, if it checks this first, it doesnt need to check the rest 23:38:07 <[Shaman]> plus the whole location list thingie might work pretty sweet 23:38:28 <RichK67> looks like it already uses the industry list for x&y 23:39:05 <[Shaman]> that creation time was for 1024x1024 btw 23:39:07 *** Sacro__ [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-161-50.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:39:07 <RichK67> unmovables are brute force though - for each transmitter attempt, it checks around 23:39:11 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-227-125.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Success] 23:39:49 <[Shaman]> might want to try adding more 'temporary debug messages' to the console, generation time for each stage 23:40:02 <RichK67> yeah - makes sense 23:40:09 <glx> [Shaman]: not possible because single thread 23:40:26 <glx> you will get all message at the end 23:40:52 <Sacro__> hmm 23:40:53 <RichK67> glx: use internal clock timings for each stage, and report as TGP does now 23:41:00 <[Shaman]> at the end of each stage it will. 23:41:14 <RichK67> you dont need to see the stages happen, only the summary at the end 23:41:19 *** Sacro__ is now known as Sacro 23:41:33 <[Shaman]> yeh, you'll end up with a nice list of things that happened 23:41:44 <glx> [Shaman]: it doesn't refresh the display between stage 23:41:55 <[Shaman]> if one is significantly bigger than the others, it -might- need optimalisation 23:41:58 <[Shaman]> glx: not needed. 23:42:05 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:42:07 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:12 <[Shaman]> as long as the text is displayed with (correct) times at the end of generation 23:42:13 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 23:42:31 <glx> ok I understand what you mean now :) 23:42:39 * glx should read better :) 23:43:16 <glx> I didn't read "generation time for each stage" :P 23:44:27 <[Shaman]> heh 23:44:28 <[Shaman]> np 23:45:08 <[Shaman]> RichK67: Does subs work in MP now as well? 23:46:11 <RichK67> dont know - i think author said it did now 23:46:21 * [Shaman] attempts 23:46:32 <[Shaman]> ah wait, it's disabled now 23:47:06 <[Shaman]> anybody mind joining the [D]oomcraft miniIN server (it's on public listing) with r5311-MinIN (pass == doom) 23:47:26 <[Shaman]> so i can see if i can crash it :P 23:48:27 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:48:29 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:31 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 23:50:41 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:52:13 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:53:42 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca243.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:54:56 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:54:58 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:55:00 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 23:57:13 <RichK67> hmmm.... interesting... on "normal" industries and "high" towns, terrain=5secs, towns=5secs, inds=~5secs, rest=2secs => total 17 23:57:37 <RichK67> on "high" industries, rest is same, but inds takes > 50secs 23:58:41 <[Shaman]> then you found your problem i think :o 23:59:05 <RichK67> yup - its the industries too close to each other checks no doubt 23:59:11 <[Shaman]> you might be able to push down terrain to 3-4s, towns maybe, but industries definatly 23:59:52 <RichK67> yeah, just do the checks in a cpu-friendly order should help