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00:00:00 <trogdorx> PREFIX=./openttd 00:00:05 <trogdorx> hopefully that will help 00:00:13 <trogdorx> and maybe even work 00:00:43 <trogdorx> nope 00:01:15 <Sacro> :S 00:01:16 <glx> trogdorx: just move openttd lang/*.lng and data/* 00:01:32 <trogdorx> lang and data? 00:01:33 <trogdorx> ok 00:03:28 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 00:03:41 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:04:08 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 00:04:12 <Sacro> i have a trunk folder for svn and make, and then a Nightly folder for actually running in 00:07:24 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176123165.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:09:02 * Sacro yawns 00:12:28 *** bulio|out [n=bulio@Toronto-HSE-ppp3786218.sympatico.ca] has joined #openttd 00:20:07 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-195-126.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Gone"] 00:21:58 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176102026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:22:44 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 00:24:06 <trogdorx> what the shit 00:24:11 <trogdorx> how do i give money to people in 0.4.7? 00:24:14 <trogdorx> is it moved? 00:24:34 *** bulio|out is now known as bulio 00:25:30 *** Mukke` [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 00:26:48 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:27:06 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:31:15 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["-"] 00:32:13 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 00:38:02 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:41:38 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:42:26 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:50:51 <trogdorx> where can i get a .cfg with the basic rules? 00:51:02 <glx> run openttd once 00:51:11 <trogdorx> yea, but those rules suck :\ 00:51:28 <glx> what settings do you want? 00:51:34 <trogdorx> the popular ones 00:51:59 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:58:20 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-211-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! 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Nothing spectacular. 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So don't let the terraforming toolbar try to close them, they aren't open then anyway. 05:56:13 <CIA-3> Also remove an empty case 05:58:40 *** k-man [n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man] has joined #openttd 06:05:04 <k-man> does the area of influence of a station have to cover all of the tiles of the supplier? 06:07:52 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:10:29 <peter1138> no 06:10:31 <CIA-3> tron * r5396 /trunk/ (pathfind.c rail_cmd.c road_cmd.c): 06:10:31 <CIA-3> - Remove two fixed parameters 06:10:31 <CIA-3> - Simplify an expresssion: c ? f(x) : f(y) -> f(c ? x : y) 06:11:02 <peter1138> morning 06:12:29 <CIA-3> tron * r5397 /trunk/settings.c: -Fix: Redraw the screen, when switching the signal side 06:12:49 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 06:16:19 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["-"] 06:17:44 <CIA-3> tron * r5398 /trunk/unmovable_cmd.c: Rename checkRadioTowerNearby() to IsRadioTowerNearby() and flip its return value to make it a bit less ambiguous 06:19:35 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:21:06 <CIA-3> tron * r5399 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: Simplify a conditional expression: (a && b) || (!a && !b) -> a == b 06:31:57 <peter1138> Tron: status = (cs->status <= lengthof(stat_str) ? stat_str[cs->status] : "unknown"); 06:32:04 <peter1138> shouldn't that be just < ? 06:35:04 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit ["Connection not reset by peer."] 06:35:19 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 06:46:19 <CIA-3> tron * r5400 /trunk/console_cmds.c: Typo in 5391, spotted by peter1138 06:47:11 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa16.6.tellas.gr] has left #openttd [] 07:09:57 <k-man> is there any plans for an OpenLocomotion? 07:14:52 <roboman> nope 07:15:40 <roboman> we still know who owns the coppyright and they are likely to act on that sort of thing 07:16:54 <peter1138> plus it's crap 07:17:36 <k-man> oh 07:17:42 <k-man> two good reasons 07:17:58 <k-man> what about some improvements to the graphics of openttd? 07:18:04 <k-man> and multi depth tunnels? 07:21:43 *** |AciD| [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 07:22:05 <ln-> roboman: we still know who owns the copyright of ttd. 07:22:55 <roboman> yeah, but not for sure and they wont admit it/look 07:30:12 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.84.32.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 07:38:08 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 07:43:00 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.83.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 07:51:33 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 07:58:30 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 07:58:54 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 07:58:58 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 07:58:58 <Darkvater> morning 07:59:16 <roboman> hello 07:59:55 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:00:02 <peter1138> mr darkvater! 08:00:54 <Darkvater> ohoh, that can't be good 08:00:55 * Darkvater hides 08:01:34 * roboman is startin to like ottd 08:02:11 * roboman is spending just as much if not more time playing some random version of ottd than ttdp 08:02:32 <Darkvater> were you ttdp-man? 08:02:44 <Darkvater> gogo english skills ;p 08:02:44 <roboman> by random i mean either the latest stable or the latest nightly 08:02:47 <roboman> yep 08:03:10 <Darkvater> what made you switch, even if temporarily, and what do you miss most? 08:03:34 <roboman> multiplayer is what made me switch 08:04:14 <peter1138> roboman misses the about box the most ;) 08:04:18 <roboman> the music as i have dos ttd installed on my 98 and have never been able to get the music to work in ottd 08:04:21 <roboman> nope 08:04:31 <roboman> that was something different 08:04:32 *** tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:44 <peter1138> Darkvater: sea-level canals... shall i add it? 08:04:45 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:04:47 *** tron_ is now known as Tron 08:04:54 <Darkvater> hi Tron 08:04:56 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3D64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:58 <Darkvater> peter1138: how buggy isit? 08:05:03 <Tron> hi 08:05:10 <roboman> ive got sound effects working just not the music 08:05:28 <peter1138> um, not very ;P 08:06:30 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:06:33 <roboman> which of the files in dos ttd do i need to get the music and where do i need to put it 08:06:49 <peter1138> dos ttd's music isn't supported 08:06:54 <roboman> ah 08:07:00 <peter1138> i needs the .gm files from the windows version 08:07:02 <peter1138> +t 08:07:05 <roboman> thats why 08:13:50 <Darkvater> yep 08:14:00 <Darkvater> peter1138: well, I think it's doable 08:14:15 <Darkvater> peter1138: how's 0.5 progress? (UTF8 and newgrf-save) 08:14:42 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:15:45 <White_Rabbit> hi 08:15:49 <White_Rabbit> has anyone read this? http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25861 I think you should be able to edit the value, like wait_one/twoway_signal 08:16:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B76516.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:16:45 <White_Rabbit> btw, is wait_one/twoway_signal universal in a multiplayer game, or clientside? 08:19:29 <Darkvater> from the deep silence I assume progress is not going that well ;) 08:19:38 <Darkvater> White_Rabbit: I would say universal 08:20:35 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 08:20:44 <ln-> where is Bjarni? 08:20:47 <White_Rabbit> ok 08:21:04 <Darkvater> not here 08:21:36 <ln-> i vote for swapping the functionality of Ctrl and Cmd on the Mac OS X version. at least an option to do so. 08:22:09 <peter1138> Darkvater: what's doable? dos music or ? 08:22:23 <Darkvater> canals 08:22:29 <peter1138> Darkvater: was on phone and talking to boss, heh 08:22:43 <peter1138> ah, sea-level canals is done. it's 5 KB patch, including a lang change, heh 08:22:48 <ln-> in EVERY piece of Mac software Ctrl+click is the same as right-click. but no, not in OpenTTD, where Cmd-click is the way to go. 08:22:54 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/canals2.diff 08:23:26 <peter1138> ln-: pester bjarni :P 08:23:48 <peter1138> or better, get a proper mouse 08:24:32 <Darkvater> stupid osx and their mouse 08:25:02 <ln-> i don't usually use a mouse with my ibook. 08:28:51 *** Richk67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:29:31 <ln-> has the ear ring bug been fixed? 08:30:11 <Darkvater> ello Richk67_wrk, good morning to you :) 08:30:40 <Richk67_wrk> hi DV 08:31:13 <Darkvater> are you happy, all satisfied? 08:31:22 <Darkvater> can I assist you in any way :) 08:31:26 <Richk67_wrk> dunno - ask me when ive woken up 08:31:33 <Richk67_wrk> :) 08:31:38 <Darkvater> but you're ok, righ? 08:31:39 <Darkvater> t 08:31:58 <Richk67_wrk> err.... yeah... why??? bad news? 08:32:06 <Darkvater> good, so can I complain now? 08:32:12 <Darkvater> ^^ 08:32:13 <Richk67_wrk> lol - ok 08:32:33 <Darkvater> about r5376 (building osprey, new error message) 08:32:47 <Darkvater> 2 points 08:33:15 <Darkvater> 1. the philosphy is wrong, airplanes should not even show up in the buy-list for a helidepot, or anywhere they cannot be built 08:33:32 <Darkvater> 2. remove new error message since the only time you would see that is if you hacked your client 08:34:10 <Richk67_wrk> 2 only applies if the work for 1 has been done 08:34:22 <Darkvater> yes 08:34:29 <Darkvater> that is why it is 2. :) 08:34:42 <Darkvater> that was all, we can continue being happy again ^^ 08:34:49 * Darkvater feels just like a teletubby ;p 08:34:58 <Richk67_wrk> i am happy for someone else to work out how to exclude the aircraft from the helidepot list - i have no idea how to do it 08:37:14 <Darkvater> peter1138: perhaps change this to ? 08:37:15 <Darkvater> + if (IsTileOwner(tile, OWNER_WATER)) { 08:37:15 <Darkvater> td->str = STR_3804_WATER; 08:37:15 <Darkvater> } else { 08:37:15 <Darkvater> td->str = STR_LANDINFO_CANAL; 08:37:32 <Darkvater> Richk67_wrk: the same you you exclude building them? 08:37:34 <peter1138> hmm, perhaps 08:37:46 <peter1138> originally it was all like that, then i remembered old saves ;) 08:37:50 <peter1138> ok 08:37:57 <Darkvater> Richk67_wrk: you know the airport type, you know what type the plane in question is, so you know what to exclude 08:38:06 <Darkvater> hehe 08:38:17 <Darkvater> 'ocean tiles' < just funny ;p 08:38:21 <peter1138> (woo, r5400) 08:38:24 <peter1138> sea tiles? 08:38:26 <peter1138> water tiles? 08:38:27 <peter1138> heh 08:39:02 <Richk67_wrk> DV: err no.... i need to break in before the creation of the list. my original solution just involved trapping it when trying to build the aircraft itself - very different location 08:39:54 <Darkvater> err yes... you need to filter the buy-list, just as the depot-list is filtered for non-compatible engines, I hope you agree :) 08:40:08 <Richk67_wrk> peter: you know about building the "buildable" lists.... where do i look for it? 08:40:19 <peter1138> in the gui code ;) 08:40:36 <Darkvater> there are always 2 things: 1. make it ok in the gui, 2. disable in command in case someone is not playing nicely 08:41:35 <Darkvater> dammit, dollar is down to 1.2564 08:41:48 <peter1138> Richk67_wrk: aircraft_gui.c:140 08:41:52 <peter1138> add a check there 08:42:08 <Darkvater> it was almost 1.30 on the sixth 08:42:47 <Richk67_wrk> ty peter 08:43:45 <Darkvater> and 118 08:44:42 <peter1138> hmm, i wonder what my mp3 player will make of an access database 08:44:59 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 08:45:14 <Darkvater> a mess? :P 08:45:55 <peter1138> hehe 08:46:28 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 08:46:38 <Richk67_wrk> ok - so how do i get that routine to know what depot/station the aircraft is being built at, since the code is currently unaware? 08:47:24 <Darkvater> almost always w->window_number is abused as the stationid 08:48:38 <Darkvater> or as the tile the station is at 08:48:54 <Darkvater> in either case, it's trivial to get the station pointer :) 08:49:03 <Richk67_wrk> ahh... hence " if (w->window_number == 0) SETBIT(w->disabled_state, 5);" <-- for the "depot" in the "your aircraft" list 08:49:14 <peter1138> yeha 08:49:15 <Darkvater> aircraft_gui.c:235 08:49:16 <Darkvater> w->window_number = tile; 08:49:21 <peter1138> that'll be the tile 08:49:36 <Darkvater> aircraft_gui.c:230 even 08:50:07 <Richk67_wrk> 228 08:50:20 <Darkvater> so peter1138, utf8/newsave? ;p 08:50:52 <Richk67_wrk> hrm... ok i will have a go (late) tonite... im out the rest of the evening 08:51:00 *** scia_ [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 08:51:34 <peter1138> + 2cc + newsounds + ... 08:52:17 <Darkvater> peter1138: no, 0.5 :) 08:52:24 <peter1138> hmm 08:52:27 <Richk67_wrk> btw DV: that code you complained about was already in the patch you verified... :) the only thing that has changed is the string name :) 08:52:32 <peter1138> but they're done, just need tidying up for committage 08:53:10 <peter1138> anyway, what about 0.4.8-RC1 ? :P 08:54:36 <Darkvater> tonite 08:54:48 <peter1138> k 08:55:10 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 08:55:11 <Darkvater> Richk67_wrk: oh, so now I get the blame? :). The string was a bad idea though 08:55:22 <Darkvater> peter1138: utf8/newsave is done? utf8 input as well? 08:57:54 <Ihmemies> implement self-planting trees for subtropical lumber mills, please 08:58:40 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:00:50 <Richk67_wrk> when i fit in the "list-only-helis" bit, do you still want to leave the current check in? 09:01:02 <peter1138> Darkvater: no... 09:01:20 <peter1138> Darkvater: well, you can input utf8 via random keypresses ;p 09:01:55 <Richk67_wrk> brb 09:04:01 <Darkvater> peter1138: that's halfway there :P 09:04:30 <Darkvater> Richk67_wrk: yes, because if someone changes the code then the gui would allow it to build airplanes. which will give MP troubles 09:04:48 <Darkvater> Richk67_wrk: just the new string isn't needed, because in practice nobody would see it ever 09:05:12 <Darkvater> Ihmemies: and give you an automatic money-press? lol 09:05:44 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 09:05:54 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:06:20 <White_Rabbit> has there been any thought concerning wider waypoints (without new_nonstop) or allowing waypoints to be built as normal stations? 09:06:21 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 09:08:09 <peter1138> no 09:09:27 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 09:10:17 <White_Rabbit> but it would be nice if those were possible 09:17:02 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 09:22:34 <Darkvater> yes 09:23:53 <Richk67_wrk> time to work :( bbl 09:24:07 *** Richk67_wrk is now known as RichK67_wrk|work 09:34:15 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 09:37:56 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:38:02 <Ihmemies> Darkvater, it's just annoying to replant trees manually :P 09:38:13 <Ihmemies> better to replace the lumber mills with normal forests, like in temperate land 09:40:28 <Darkvater> no, don't think so. this is what makes lumber mills so unique and exciting 09:40:34 <Darkvater> they interact! with the environment 09:40:56 <Darkvater> like farms should: you kill off their fileds with junctions, rails, etc. production should drop 09:41:48 <White_Rabbit> maybe you should be able to deliver grain/wheat to a farm, to increase livestock production? ;) 09:42:37 <Zavior> Or like 09:42:44 <Zavior> Deliver livesteck and grain to coal min 09:42:45 <Zavior> e 09:42:46 <Darkvater> a farm produces grain/wheat :) 09:42:50 <Zavior> To increase coal production! 09:43:02 <Darkvater> deliver livestock to power plant is more likely 09:43:06 <Darkvater> animal fuel!! :D 09:43:09 <Zavior> :D 09:46:31 <Ihmemies> Darkvater, really? 09:46:45 <Ihmemies> does production drop when farm has less fields? :D 09:46:50 <Darkvater> it should imho 09:46:55 <Ihmemies> ;O 09:47:28 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22"] 09:47:31 <Ihmemies> should? :) 09:48:08 <White_Rabbit> if it did, you also should be able to deliver grain/wheat because the less land is available for farming/grazing, the less there is to feed your livestock 09:48:08 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:48:54 <Ihmemies> farms produce already grain&livestock :F 09:49:39 <Darkvater> White_Rabbit: livestock eats the grass on the lands they're on. if there is less land there is less livestock 09:49:45 * Darkvater has never seen cows eat grain 09:49:51 <Darkvater> cattle even 09:54:49 <ln-> finns det någon här som talar svenska som modersmål eller annars bra? 09:55:06 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:55:18 <White_Rabbit> but I've done some research, and cattle can and do eat grain, especially when fed in factory farming 09:56:31 <Darkvater> look at the farms, the animals are living on land 09:58:05 <White_Rabbit> I can't see any animals on the land.. 09:58:24 <Darkvater> :) 10:04:13 *** ammler_away [n=chatzill@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has joined #openttd 10:05:24 *** ammler_away is now known as ammler 10:10:30 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:11:46 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-157-191.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:11:54 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:21:58 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387E02E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:23:49 <peter1138> you can hear them :) 10:23:58 <Sacro> who? 10:24:02 <Sacro> newsounds? 10:24:05 <peter1138> THEM 10:24:12 <Darkvater> he 10:24:22 <peter1138> Darkvater: hmm, should i commit my "remove fields when a farm is closed" patch? heh 10:24:32 <Darkvater> Is sacro married to a cow? Find out on today's Jerry Springer! 10:25:25 <Darkvater> peter1138: makes the land look so desolate no? 10:25:37 <Sacro> no...i cant hear them 10:25:56 <peter1138> better than strange fields that make you think there's a farm there when there isn't... 10:26:42 <Darkvater> don't agree 10:27:28 <peter1138> i shall take taht as a no then... 10:27:28 <peter1138> oh well 10:31:45 <Darkvater> peter1138: anyways, you don't know which fields belong to which farms 10:32:55 <peter1138> erm 10:33:01 <peter1138> you do with the patch :P 10:33:45 <Darkvater> ah, but then you can implement farmland <> production 10:33:54 <peter1138> yeah 10:34:22 <peter1138> it puts the industry id in m2 10:34:27 <peter1138> of the field 10:34:56 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 10:35:14 <Darkvater> what I would do though, is slowly remove the fields over the course of a year or something... with a counter. Much nicer 10:35:20 <peter1138> ... 10:35:24 <Darkvater> but ok I think this can wait 10:35:41 <peter1138> did you think i meant it would disappear instantly? :P 10:35:56 <peter1138> true 10:36:00 <Darkvater> I do not know what you mean :) 10:36:36 <peter1138> rarely does anyone 10:38:04 <Darkvater> :) 10:38:05 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5401 /branches/utf8/ (110 files in 13 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r5321:r5400 from trunk 10:38:07 <Darkvater> < food 10:38:16 * peter1138 eats Darkvater 10:38:34 <ln-> a completely off-topic question, which will not help free software in any way: what would "Digital video surveillance application" be in German/Dutch/other language? 10:39:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Digitale Videoüberwachungsanwendung"? 10:39:54 <ln-> sounds good. 10:40:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> there would probably be better translations if you gave context 10:40:50 <ln-> a brief description for an application that records video from surveillance cameras. 10:41:33 <hapo> ln-: you're _here_ as well :) 10:41:55 <ln-> i have always been here (except when banned). :) 10:41:58 <hapo> hehe 10:45:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... 'Software' is probably better than 'Anwendung' 10:46:36 <ln-> ok 10:47:27 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 10:47:35 <Sacro> ln-: its pretty much the same in english 10:48:17 *** Gussoh^ [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has joined #openttd 10:49:00 <Sacro> i love these e-mails i get for tablets, they allways have a random section of story at the bottom 10:49:40 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:49:41 <ln-> Sacro: i thought "Digital video surveillance application" already is english.. :) 10:49:51 <Sacro> ln-: ahhh, that makes sense :P 10:52:55 *** scia_ [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 10:53:09 <ln-> but feel free to tell me translations to other languages. :) 10:55:43 <Sacro> igitalday ideovay urveillancesay applicationay 10:56:57 <Sacro> ln-: theres one for you :P 10:59:25 <Brianetta> plicationay, you meant 10:59:35 <Brianetta> Your vowel handling sucks (: 11:00:59 <Sacro> Brianetta: with a vowel, it stays the same and you just add ay 11:04:45 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:08:55 <Brianetta> Hmm. My grandmother taught me it wrongly, then 11:09:13 <Sacro> Brianetta: im sorry to say so, but it does look that way 11:09:19 <Brianetta> Either that, or things changed over the last 20 years 11:09:26 <Sacro> vowels and silent consonants stay 11:09:27 <Brianetta> I rather suspect the latter 11:09:34 <Sacro> thats quite possible too 11:10:12 <Brianetta> Lunchtime. 11:10:54 <Sacro> ooh, so it is 11:12:48 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 11:18:16 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 11:19:49 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:33:43 <Darkvater> peter1138: you dare eat me? I am apalled 11:34:38 *** ammler [n=chatzill@zux181-026.adsl.green.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 11:35:47 <peter1138> you can't talk 11:35:50 <peter1138> you're already digested 11:36:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> that word sounds really disgusting ;) 11:37:44 <Darkvater> are you a kodo? 11:38:22 <Darkvater> http://www.battle.net/war3/orc/units/kodobeast.shtml 11:39:03 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 11:39:31 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 11:40:12 <Brianetta> This conversation crossed my reality threshold into surreal 11:40:38 <Darkvater> prepare to enter the twilight zone *scary music* 11:42:05 * Brianetta reads the topic 11:42:12 * Brianetta loads bash.org 11:42:15 <Brianetta> It's inevitable 11:42:25 * Darkvater starts time 11:42:25 <Darkvater> r 11:42:53 <Brianetta> I am not normally moved to post bash quotes back to IRC 11:43:00 <Brianetta> I think of that as a feedback loop, and best avoided 11:44:35 <Darkvater> :) 11:48:10 *** Damme__ [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:48:30 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:52:18 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 11:56:07 <Sacro> damnit, why cant you insert and eject cdrws over vnc/ssh 11:56:36 <Darkvater> is 'eject' disabled in SSH? 11:57:01 <Sacro> well, i can eject, but i cant take the disc out, label it, but it in a wallet, and insert a fresh one from the spindle 11:57:19 <Darkvater> no shit 11:57:41 <Sacro> isnt fair, means i have to walk 11:57:56 <Darkvater> I have my mother do that, it's funny to hear her freak out seeing the pc do all kinds of weird stuff on its own 11:58:21 <Sacro> ive just realised, all 4 machines in this house have cd/dvd rw's, that'd make my live so much easier 11:58:36 <Sacro> errm *hides from the mpaa* 11:58:48 <Brianetta> I once had an IRC friend from the USA come over to stay. While I was at work, I'd entertain her as she monged about my flat, by playing MP3s and stuff to her. 11:58:56 <Brianetta> She thought it rocked. made her feel less lonely. 11:59:45 <Sacro> ssh scares my mum, she doesnt see how i can shut my pc down without coming upstairs 11:59:54 <Sacro> i can also ssh into my router and reboot it 12:00:21 * Sacro suddenly realises that without changing the default password, that maybe anyone can do that 12:00:30 <Frostregen> :D 12:00:34 * Brianetta slaps Sacro 12:00:43 <Brianetta> You know you deserved that. 12:00:51 <Sacro> ow *rubs face* what was that for 12:01:41 <Sacro> the scarier thing is is that i configure these routers for student houses to earn money 12:02:28 <peter1138> # i, will, find, out 12:02:48 <Sacro> peter1138: ? 12:05:18 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:08:24 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 12:33:58 *** Dred_furst 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<Sacro> hehe 12:57:51 <C-Funky> well, can anyone explain? i downloaded the progyy with all addons as written in the wiki... 12:58:10 <Darkvater> you're not telling us what the problem is 12:58:51 <peter1138> my car won't start... what's wrong? 12:58:52 <C-Funky> i start the program, i have some nice green @ and i have no idea what to do now... 12:59:13 <Darkvater> cygwin you mean :) 12:59:16 <C-Funky> what do i do with the .diff file or .patch files i downloaded? how do i add them to the game? 12:59:44 <Sacro> patch -p0 -i /path/to/file.diff && make 13:00:00 <Darkvater> C-Funky: a patch or diff file (isn't this on the wiki?) is source code changes which you need to apply. 13:00:10 <C-Funky> yeah i know what it is, just not how to do it 13:00:11 <Darkvater> C-Funky: for this you juse patch -p0 < myfile.diff 13:00:19 <Darkvater> C-Funky: then you tell the gme to compile with 'make' 13:00:45 <C-Funky> patch command not found... 13:01:24 <Sacro> C-Funky: it needs installing then 13:01:33 <C-Funky> ohh well.... 13:01:52 <C-Funky> will minGW be a more simple proggy'? 13:02:23 <Darkvater> no :) 13:02:42 <Darkvater> a simple proggy in your terms would be 'visual studio 200 express' and 'tortoisesvn' 13:02:46 <Darkvater> 2005 13:03:07 <C-Funky> bahh, i'll stop by later when i have more time for this... 13:03:09 <C-Funky> gtg now 13:03:34 <C-Funky> bye 13:03:36 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 13:03:38 <Darkvater> bye 13:03:46 <Sacro> minGW == cygwin in many wya 13:03:48 <Sacro> *ways 13:04:03 <Darkvater> isn't mingw just the gcc crosscompiler for win32? 13:06:35 <Darkvater> sadfasdf 13:06:38 <Sacro> yeah it is 13:06:42 <Darkvater> hmm, I'm still here 13:06:47 <Sacro> :) fraid so 13:07:09 <Darkvater> i think I'm gonna break my excel record today 13:07:17 <Sacro> what are you doing? 13:07:26 <Darkvater> crashing :P 13:07:30 <Darkvater> got it up to 9 now 13:07:45 <Darkvater> latest was when closing a file (not saving it even) 13:08:27 <Sacro> ouch 13:08:49 <CIA-3> miham * r5402 /trunk/lang/ (czech.txt french.txt italian.txt unfinished/ukrainian.txt): 13:08:49 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-28 15:08:19 13:08:49 <CIA-3> czech - 15 fixed by Hadez (15) 13:08:49 <CIA-3> french - 1 fixed, 3 changed by belugas (4) 13:08:49 <CIA-3> italian - 1 changed by sidew (1) 13:08:50 <CIA-3> ukrainian - 1 fixed by znikoz (1) 13:09:10 <Darkvater> well I do get paid for it ^_^ 13:09:19 <Sacro> well thats a bit better then 13:09:45 <Darkvater> :) 13:10:18 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 13:10:50 <Sacro> suppose i best do some jobs around the house 13:12:48 <Sacro> pmsl, bobingabout reckons he's going to write a patch 13:13:24 <RichK67_wrk|work> lol 13:13:34 <Sacro> thought that'd amuse you 13:13:44 *** RichK67_wrk|work is now known as RichK_wrk 13:13:52 <Sacro> he wants me to go over and install linux for him... now which distro shall i put on 13:13:58 <RichK_wrk> yeah, whats he got against you anyway 13:14:11 <Sacro> we went to college together 13:14:28 <Sacro> hes got it against a lot of us, because he's now working back there as a technician 13:14:39 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:16 <Darkvater> Sacro: give him an install-floppy to gentoo and make him compile the whole thing 13:15:19 <Darkvater> starting with gcc 13:15:32 <RichK_wrk> ah... scum of the earth then ;) hated by students, ignored by staff ;) 13:15:46 <Sacro> Darkvater: i was thinking LFS 13:16:22 <Sacro> hehe, i could give him BSD, or something 13:16:35 <Sacro> ooh, OpenSolaris 13:17:16 <Darkvater> give him OS/2 and say it's a cool version of linux 13:17:21 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:17:46 <Sacro> Darkvater: ahhh...now that'd be fun 13:17:48 <Sacro> RiscOS 13:18:10 <Sacro> or ReactOS 13:19:10 <Sacro> something hardly supported... 13:20:29 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:21:07 <Sacro> or i could just give him ubunto, and tell him its gentoo, and bother #gentoo for support...hehehehe 13:27:27 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:31:09 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 13:31:18 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E02E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:35:17 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 13:35:43 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-210-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:48 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387E02E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:48:49 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:55:04 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:59:46 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 14:05:01 <hapo> startkeylogger 14:05:18 <blathijs> hapo: that one's pretty old... 14:05:42 <Kjetil> older than the internets 14:06:27 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:46 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:09:55 *** d3x7r0 [i=meireles@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 14:10:20 <Darkvater> I don't get it 14:10:44 <[Shaman]> an old norton version 14:10:52 <[Shaman]> would 'crash' mIRC if somebody would say that 14:11:22 <vondel> !google startkeylogger 14:12:02 <Sacro> [Shaman]: i thought it just made it go into lockdown and block ALL services 14:12:25 <SpComb> [Shaman]: not mIRC, but the firewall would reset the connection if that came in from a port in the irc range (6667 or thereabouts) 14:12:33 <[Shaman]> ah 14:12:34 <[Shaman]> even better :P 14:12:39 <SpComb> yeah 14:12:42 <hylje> :o 14:13:14 <hylje> another thing like taht was the dcc send 14:13:15 <SpComb> freenode set up a alternative port (something like 8080), because the startkeylogger didn't have any effect on that 14:13:20 <SpComb> dunno about that one 14:13:34 <SpComb> in any case, it was a really, really bad idea from norton :P 14:13:40 <SpComb> using 'user data' like that 14:13:45 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81BA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:13:49 <Darkvater> ah I see 14:13:52 <Darkvater> kinda like typing 14:13:53 <hylje> a certain router firmware reset the connection if a certain "dcc send xxxx" string came from a irc connection 14:13:54 <Darkvater> .x. 14:14:03 <Darkvater> and getting a reply from all infected clients you could take over 14:14:04 <Sacro> 14:14:07 <Sacro> hmm 14:14:08 <Darkvater> ~8-9 years ago 14:14:42 <hylje> people then said that on large channels *cough*#gentoo*cough* and dozens of people dropped :b 14:15:01 <Sacro> you'd think people on #gentoo wouldnt be using norton firewalls... 14:15:10 <hylje> that was the router bug 14:15:16 <Sacro> ahh yeah 14:15:23 <vondel> their windows machine while they were still in stage 1 ;) 14:15:33 <hylje> when freenode was compromised, one attacker said that "dcc send" thing in global notice 14:15:41 <Darkvater> :D 14:15:49 <Sacro> hehe, impressive 14:16:26 <Sacro> hmm, CTCP send startkeylogger over a whole channel 14:18:17 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:18:22 <[Shaman]> for the dutchies: http://www.regiowebtv.net/video/2/913/vandaag_is_rood_de_kleur.html 14:36:55 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:39:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:05 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 14:49:06 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 14:52:48 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 14:56:47 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387DCC6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:06:40 <Darkvater> < home 15:07:50 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:10:57 <[Shaman]> now to see if there's a debian package for some svn server :o 15:14:29 <hylje> apt-get subversion ? 15:14:57 <[Shaman]> subversion comes with it's own server as well? :o 15:14:59 * [Shaman] checks 15:15:07 <[Shaman]> ah yar, svnserve 15:15:08 <[Shaman]> ta 15:15:10 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 15:15:19 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E02E.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:19:03 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:20:48 *** hapo [i=pr@kapsi.fi] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 15:20:50 *** hapo [i=pr@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 15:21:37 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 15:22:01 *** ammler [n=chatzill@121.145.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:23:57 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 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could design a ready connection! 15:42:32 <Ihmemies> and just drop it here, without disturbing the traffic for years :D 15:44:26 <[Shaman]> yep, or create multiple lines by just making it once and copy/pasting it a fuckton of times :p 15:45:55 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:47:11 <ammler> No, a noob like me has also the change to make a hub or station... 15:47:42 <ammler> when you copy everthing will be done to fast 15:48:08 <[Shaman]> true 15:48:19 <[Shaman]> you can just have pre-defined 1-2-3-4-lines hubs saved 15:48:24 <ammler> *chance 15:48:28 <[Shaman]> then it's just.. 'hmmm' <select> <paste> 15:49:23 <ammler> like chose a engine for the train... 15:49:27 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 15:50:04 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:51:20 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 15:52:37 <[Shaman]> damnit 15:52:42 <[Shaman]> svnserve doesn't log anything >_< 15:53:39 *** Frostregen_ [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-113-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:53:51 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 15:54:52 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:55 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:58:00 <[Shaman]> anybody aroud with some 'experience' with svnserve ? 15:58:17 <hylje> yes 15:58:28 <[Shaman]> ok, quick question, if you don't mind 15:58:43 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:59:03 <[Shaman]> i added a svn line to inetd.conf , which 'seems' to work (since it repsonds, duh), i added the folders and all, added a svn user which has permissions to the rep folders 15:59:09 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 15:59:23 <[Shaman]> added a conf/svnserve.conf in the rep root folder, with settings 15:59:34 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181122011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:59:51 <[Shaman]> only if i do svn co svn://localhost/ 15:59:54 <[Shaman]> i get "svn: Malformed network datarver: inetd." 16:00:57 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 16:01:20 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 16:01:31 *** prencher [n=prencher@0x535ca79a.banxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:02:03 <[Shaman]> eh s/rver: inetd// 16:02:10 <[Shaman]> console messup >_< 16:02:36 <_bitwise> [Shaman]: what happens if you telnet to port 3690? 16:03:16 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:04:07 <[Shaman]> _bitwise: it gave me an answer, or at least a hunch 16:04:23 *** Damme__ [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:05:54 <[Shaman]> hm, something worked 16:05:58 <[Shaman]> now it gives "svn: Connection closed unexpectedly" 16:08:32 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:10:46 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-158-245.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10:47 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:12:39 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:17:34 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E89B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:18:23 <[Shaman]> hylje: Any ideas? 16:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... how can i get grep to search files recursively? 16:18:27 <hylje> no 16:18:35 <[Shaman]> Eddi|zuHause2: grep -R iirc 16:18:42 * [Shaman] goes to food, pondering about the error 16:18:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 16:20:58 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2 : on WinXP, if I do "grep ?", it says -d- Search subdirectories 16:21:06 <Belugas> maybe it is what you are looking for ;) 16:21:36 <hylje> grep -r 16:22:01 <hylje> as demonstrated in `grep -r fuck /usr/src/linux' if linux kernel source code is available 16:22:27 <Sacro> grep whatever `find .` 16:24:50 <Belugas> cool... winxp does NOT have -r 16:25:03 <Belugas> grep for winxp, i mean 16:25:11 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> you mean mingw? 16:26:20 <Belugas> Heheh... no... But I just discovered that it is a grep 5.5, copyright Inprise Corporation 16:26:31 <Belugas> meaning Borland 16:26:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> aha 16:30:33 <peter1138> part of your silly delphi toolkit ;p 16:30:41 <peter1138> winxp doesn't have grep 16:30:54 <Belugas> so i figured :) 16:31:47 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 16:31:57 <Belugas> I just never needed grep before knowing you twisted command-liners freaks and see how powerfull it can be, so, rather new heheh 16:32:07 <Wolf01> hi all 16:32:32 <hylje> command line is useful assuming you know how to use it 16:32:49 <Belugas> or whst to gain from it... 16:33:09 <RichK_wrk> problem with command lines, is there aint no such thing as "intuitive" 16:34:03 <Belugas> true. That is why i have created a series of batch files, already configured for this or that. 16:34:48 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:32 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 16:37:48 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 16:41:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, command line can be a bitch sometimes ;) 16:42:07 <Sacro> or a mistress 16:42:52 <hylje> :b 16:43:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> YaST seems to be incapable of setting up a network bridge, so i am trying to figure it out manually, i meanwhile know all the console commands, but now i need it to do that at startup... 16:46:16 <Belugas> gui can be as crap... what's the use of having to read tons of docs to make it work... and if it is as intuitive as it may seems, why is there (almost every time) a button for help? 16:46:49 <Belugas> point is, either gui or cli, if it is well written, well coded, it doe snot matter 16:46:50 <RichK_wrk> which is useless ;) 16:46:59 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-129-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:47:26 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: i think you'll find YaST will most likely changeit back 16:47:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> we will see that once i actually manage to change it ;) 16:48:26 *** Osai is now known as Osai^away 16:48:53 <gigajum> tron here or any other of the devs? 16:54:56 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 16:55:50 <Sacro> gigajum: there was a RichK_wrk a while back 16:56:41 <gigajum> oh i only found two bugs in trunk caused trons commit yesterday evening 16:57:09 <gigajum> one was fixed from belugas 16:57:14 <RichK_wrk> i aint no dev ;) 16:57:20 <Belugas> yup 16:57:20 <gigajum> the other not 16:57:35 <Belugas> what is the other one? 16:57:38 <gigajum> if i click on Replace Train the replace window won't come up 16:57:52 <Belugas> RichK_wrk : new airport in trunk = you are dev... 16:57:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> it might be helpful if you actually stated your problem instead of spamming metaquestions ;) 16:58:06 <gigajum> Eddi|zuHause2 kk 16:58:22 <Belugas> RichK_wrk : like it or not :) 16:58:36 <RichK_wrk> lol - ok ... maybe a bit... ive just not bought into some of the OTTD dev ethos ;) 16:59:16 <Belugas> yeah... thus the distinction made by Celestar : devs and lead coders 16:59:43 <RichK_wrk> ah ok 16:59:47 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78879.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:00:10 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E89B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 17:00:40 <Belugas> i'm looking at it now, gigajum 17:00:48 <gigajum> ok 17:01:20 <RichK_wrk> i think its a perspective thing... i see the OTTD dev work as primarily making a *game* with fun new features, and minimising bugs... i think some devs see it as a development project that happens to be a game, and want it all coded to some level of dev project perfection 17:01:24 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 17:02:45 <[Shaman]> lo, RichK. 17:03:04 <RichK_wrk> lo shaman 17:03:45 <Belugas> so, basically, it is all about dev-ing :) 17:05:05 <RichK_wrk> i see a lot of passion from some devs - not for ace new features - but for coding style and adherence to "standards"... its a game folks :) 17:05:38 <Sacro> hence why i like MiniIN 17:05:47 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:06:13 <RichK_wrk> ok it needs some standards, hence keeping branches & trunk separate, but it should be a *lot* quicker to go from a patch to trunk if it is a fun feature 17:06:29 <RichK_wrk> as you say sacro; hence MiniIN 17:07:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... let's see if that works... brb 17:07:48 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 17:08:12 *** TinoDidri is now known as Jezral 17:08:20 <Sacro> RichK_wrk: yep 17:08:26 <Belugas> don't forget, RichK_wrk, taht each new feature has to be quite stable before going in trunk. Imagine the fun it would be that, if not properly written, a bug pops up and no one wouldbe able to tell why it's there, becasue it has been stuffed under countless new features... 17:09:24 <Belugas> so, standards, coding style, testing, good coding... it's all pointed toward same goal : better, stronger game 17:09:28 <RichK_wrk> sure - but some small features are just fun trivia (eg. waypoint counters) 17:10:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:05 <RichK_wrk> i get the impression that the "plan" is king... and all else is ignored, no matter how useful it is... eg. the new autoreplace feature - allows quicker conversion from one railtype to another... likelihood of being in trunk in 2006?? very low 17:11:17 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:11:36 <Sacro> it could end up that theres a huge split in OpenTTD 17:11:41 <Sacro> between trunk and MiniIN 17:12:19 *** BobingAbout [n=BobingAb@adsl-83-100-150-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:12:30 <BobingAbout> evening all 17:12:44 <RichK_wrk> well, i wont let that happen - MiniIN will always be compatible with trunk... but if 90% of OTTD users migrate to MiniIN, then that should be saying something massive about what users want... 17:13:12 <valhallasw> the question is wether ottd should be what 'users want' 17:13:26 <valhallasw> and you don't know if that 10% doesnt just hate the MiniIN 17:13:30 <Sacro> RichK_wrk: thats what i mean 17:13:41 <Eddi|zuHause> wow... this REALLY worked on the first attempt ;) 17:13:44 <RichK_wrk> sure - thats choice 17:13:46 * valhallasw is back codding 17:14:03 <RichK_wrk> depleting fish stocks again ;) 17:14:19 <Eddi|zuHause> after 2 hours working through manpages and configuration files ;) 17:15:05 <RichK_wrk> as you can guess, im running a large background test batch, and so have idle computer time to use ;) 17:15:11 <BobingAbout> sacro: did you see my semephore graphics? 17:15:37 <RichK_wrk> bobingabout: last time i checked, the distant is always at the top 17:15:52 <Sacro> BobingAbout: very nice 17:15:53 <Belugas> strangely enough, i have always been under the impression that MiniIN was only a gatherer of user patches... 17:15:56 <Sacro> and RichK_wrk is right 17:16:01 <Belugas> well maintained,but till.. 17:16:02 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 17:16:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm a person of theory... i can make up how something works in a few minutes, and then spend about 20 times that time trying to tell the computer what i want 17:16:13 <Sacro> also, why are there 4 different positions? it can either be up, or down 17:16:16 <RichK_wrk> distant always rises first, then local signal rises 17:16:18 <BobingAbout> Richk: strange, i looked at several sites, and distant was allways at the bottom... 17:16:21 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: hehe, me too 17:17:00 <RichK_wrk> the ones i knew were yellow, and at the top, with a cut notch in the end 17:17:09 <Eddi|zuHause> what actually is a local/distant signal? 17:17:16 <Sacro> ooh yes, that was the other thing, distants have a cut notch 17:17:22 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: home shows red/yellow 17:17:29 <Sacro> red/greeen even 17:17:31 <RichK_wrk> a distant shows that the next sector is green or not 17:17:36 <BobingAbout> you try drawing a cut notch when its only 2 pixels wide... 17:17:43 <Sacro> and distant shows green if next is clean, and yellow if next is red 17:17:49 <BobingAbout> i tried to do it with the diagonals though 17:17:50 <RichK_wrk> lol - i could see them - a good job :) 17:18:12 <Sacro> why the 4 positions though? 17:18:35 <BobingAbout> the format of the yelsig2.grf goes red, green, yellow, doubleyellow 17:18:41 <BobingAbout> so the 4th is a repeat of the 3rd 17:18:45 <RichK_wrk> yay - 2798 tests down, 1403 to go 17:18:58 <BobingAbout> i don't think its actually used 17:19:04 <Eddi|zuHause> you sound really bored RichK_wrk ;) 17:19:18 <Sacro> hmmm, if i tilt the laptop, the light goes on and off... 17:19:18 <RichK_wrk> sequence is red/double yellow/yellow/green 17:19:37 <Sacro> this is surely not good 17:19:45 <BobingAbout> shouldn't it be red, yellow, doubleyellow, green? 17:20:15 <BobingAbout> number of yellows tells you how many free blocks before the red 17:20:25 <RichK_wrk> hrm... yeah, maybe... time to go home i think 17:20:31 <BobingAbout> ttyl 17:21:05 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [") td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ ("] 17:21:19 <Sacro> hmm 17:21:22 <Sacro> this is not right 17:21:41 <Eddi|zuHause> what was the url of those signal graphics again? 17:22:07 <BobingAbout> mine? they on the forums somewhere, in a thread called "Priority signals" page 2 17:22:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that is nothing i can just click on ;) 17:22:56 <Sacro> hmm, my b-1 key doesnt seem to be v+1orking 17:23:16 <Sacro> aaawwaf 17:23:46 <Wolf01> RichK_wrk, please apply the bugfix for transparency options -> http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=50987 17:24:06 <Sacro> hmm, brb 17:24:11 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-157-191.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Gone"] 17:24:38 <BobingAbout> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25766&start=20 17:24:43 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:24:45 <RichK_wrk> http://www.roscalen.com/signals/index.htm <-- bobingabout.... you are right!! bah!!! first signs of senility ;) 17:25:03 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82E67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:25 <RichK_wrk> wolf01: i wont be in until late tonite... please link to it from the MiniIN thread, and ill get round to it 17:25:32 <RichK_wrk> time to go... 17:25:35 <RichK_wrk> cya 17:25:39 <BobingAbout> :P 17:25:40 *** RichK_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 17:25:53 <Wolf01> ...is already on miniIN topic :P 17:27:08 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... those signals are FAR too loaded 17:27:17 <Eddi|zuHause> and too many options 17:27:45 <Eddi|zuHause> a new signal system must be much more simple than the current one 17:28:25 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to make some simplification from real signals 17:28:59 <BobingAbout> Its a work in progress... 17:29:14 <Wolf01> also i think so, but they are cool, and i like the possibility to see the state of the back front-ed signal 17:29:27 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82E67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:29:46 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, there are some nice ideas behind it ;) 17:31:45 <BobingAbout> i need to think of something for 1 of the semaphores too, notice how 1 of them the bars are both behind the pole? you can tell the difference with red, but yellow and green look the same 17:32:01 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:08 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5403 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): - Feature: Allow building canals at sea-level, using ctrl to toggle canal or plain water tile. This allows building of non-raisable sea-level water ways (useful in multiplayer) and dikes for low-level areas. 17:33:21 <BobingAbout> probably just have the lights visable 17:33:55 <Wolf01> and what about showing some colored globes over the signal which reminds the signal lights? 17:34:31 <BobingAbout> eh what? 17:34:56 *** magnus_1986 [n=chatzill@82.178.88.225] has joined #openttd 17:34:58 <BobingAbout> they do have a light... its just 1 pixel though 17:35:01 <Wolf01> like this: ooo (===)------- 17:35:08 <Wolf01> turn it with o to top 17:35:25 <BobingAbout> i don't get what you trying to say... 17:35:36 <Wolf01> i paint it for you 17:35:46 <magnus_1986> I just came after a long time.... was hoping 0.5.1 or something must have been out... 17:35:46 <BobingAbout> these for semephores or lights? 17:39:57 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:40:02 * Wolf01 ftp://wolf01.game-host.org/IMG_HOST/signal.PNG 17:40:15 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 17:40:28 <black_Nightmare> anyone want take over an online co? :p 17:40:45 <peter1138> no 17:41:08 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81BA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause> btw. i think 1-pixel lights are too small 17:41:17 <BobingAbout> wolf: this for the signal preview thing? 17:41:43 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81BA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:42:10 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:42:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:43:17 <Wolf01> no, this is to show lights of back front-ed signals, instead of use coloured bands on the signal it self 17:43:20 * Sacro considers looking at YAPF 17:45:10 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 17:45:10 <BobingAbout> don't get what you mean... 17:45:35 <BobingAbout> for signals where you can only see the back? 17:45:49 <Sacro> i think they should be left 17:45:49 <Wolf01> yes those 17:46:18 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:46:26 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22"] 17:46:39 <black_Nightmare> hey brianetta :) 17:46:50 <Brianetta> hi 17:46:53 <Brianetta> that was an accidental quit 17:46:57 <CIA-3> belugas * r5404 /trunk/train_gui.c: 17:46:57 <CIA-3> Fix (r5391) : Yet another typo. Nothing specatular :) 17:46:57 <CIA-3> Spotted by gigajum 17:47:03 <Brianetta> I meant to quit my openttd game and autopilot 17:47:11 <black_Nightmare> lol :)) 17:47:12 <Sacro> hey Brianetta 17:47:39 <black_Nightmare> well I'm looking to go off computer soon and so far not sighted anyone that wants to take the co I'm running now...figures, guess that adds one more co I've bankrupted myself 17:47:45 <black_Nightmare> staying here for a while just cause 17:50:33 <CIA-3> miham * r5405 /trunk/lang/ (dutch.txt hungarian.txt): 17:50:33 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-28 19:50:13 17:50:33 <CIA-3> dutch - 1 fixed by webfreakz (1) 17:50:33 <CIA-3> hungarian - 1 changed by miham (1) 17:51:06 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:24 * Sacro has lost BobingAbout's signals 17:51:39 <BobingAbout> sacro you frube... 17:51:55 <Sacro> BobingAbout: ahh who cares 17:52:19 <black_Nightmare> oh well....I'm going off bye (and lose 28 million..lol) 17:52:46 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 17:52:48 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 17:52:56 <BobingAbout> this what you want ben? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25766&start=20 17:53:12 <Sacro> who told you my name? 17:53:41 <BobingAbout> you did when we first met about 6 years ago 17:53:54 <Sacro> lies 17:54:02 <BobingAbout> maybe it was jon 17:54:24 <Sacro> hmm 17:54:26 <BobingAbout> remember, we gave you the name "Sacro" 17:54:34 <Sacro> lies 17:55:27 *** magnus_1986 [n=chatzill@82.178.88.225] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 17:58:16 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82E67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 17:59:08 <Eddi|zuHause> a /whois would tell you the name also ;) 18:01:17 <Sacro> damnit 18:01:29 <Sacro> also gives my address too :( 18:03:49 <MiHaMiX> lol 18:04:01 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 18:05:29 *** ammler is now known as Ammler 18:06:35 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:06:58 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-200-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:07:36 <BobingAbout> not very active... 18:08:13 <Noldo> who what where? 18:08:23 <Rens2Sea> i'm active 18:08:25 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 18:08:26 <Rens2Sea> i'm very active 18:09:12 <Eddi|zuHause> says the person who says something for the very first time ;) 18:09:22 <Rens2Sea> indeed 18:09:46 <Rens2Sea> but not saying anything doesn't mean i can't be active :p 18:09:47 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=459907#459907 somebody can tell me why if i change that code the X key is not more catched? 18:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i can't decide what to watch on TV... 18:10:32 <hylje> watch irc 18:10:50 <Eddi|zuHause> there's the Final Fantasy movie, or the final of SGA Season 1 (rerun, season 2 starts in a few weeks then) 18:11:02 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 18:11:04 <Rens2Sea> old! 18:11:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i do know that ;) 18:11:37 <hylje> all shit on tv is generally fucking old 18:11:45 <hylje> you can pirate it all a year before 18:11:53 <hylje> it actually airs 18:11:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i do know that also ;) 18:13:08 *** prencher [n=prencher@0x535ca79a.banxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has left #openttd [] 18:14:09 <BobingAbout> what you think i should do about the lack of space at the bottom of the 4 state signals? should i try and make the signal itself taller? 18:15:25 <BobingAbout> (i could do the same thing with the home+distant semaphores) 18:18:41 <BobingAbout> thoughts? 18:21:16 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:23:11 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 18:24:33 <_bitwise> hmm, industry density is much lower than default on sandbox, where is that adjusted? 18:25:45 <hylje> _bitwise: difficulty setting 18:26:31 <_bitwise> ah the original settings menu 18:26:32 <_bitwise> thx 18:32:30 <hylje> np 18:33:15 <Darkvater> > home 18:35:20 <Sacro> BobingAbout! newsignals! 18:35:47 <BobingAbout> what? 18:35:57 <Sacro> finish the semaphores 18:36:22 <BobingAbout> do what to them? 18:36:31 <Sacro> make a grf 18:36:51 <BobingAbout> answer my last question then i might 18:38:01 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-129-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 18:38:02 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5406 /trunk/water_cmd.c: Fix assertion in TileLoop_Water() caused by oil rigs also using it... 18:38:08 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 18:38:50 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:39:10 <Sacro> BobingAbout: put distant at top, make sure theres only 2 semaphore positions per angle 18:40:57 <BobingAbout> what? 18:41:06 <BobingAbout> distants are suposed to go under homes 18:41:58 <BobingAbout> the question i asked was: to get around the lack of space at the bottom of these new signals, to place pre-signal signs, should i make the signals taller? 18:42:07 <hylje> where in the roadmap are NewRoadTraffic? :b 18:42:33 <peter1138> what's NewRoadTraffic? 18:42:56 <Sacro> yes, make them taller 18:43:03 <Sacro> peter1138! newsounds! 18:43:08 <peter1138> taller? 18:43:17 <peter1138> oh, signals, not roads 18:43:21 <hylje> more manageable road traffic, ie. highways, more junction choices, traffic lights.. 18:43:27 <Sacro> peter1138: heheh, more tarmac needed 18:47:44 <BobingAbout> slight problem here.... 18:47:53 <BobingAbout> the graphics are not on my removable hard drive... 18:48:02 <BobingAbout> the semephore ones i mean 18:48:22 <Sacro> dovvnlod them from the forum 18:48:29 <BobingAbout> could do 18:48:29 <[Shaman]> can anybody "svn info svn://80.60.31.82/Main" and see if it actually works? 18:49:31 <Wolf01> how is called this drawing method in english? http://www.livignosport.net/aghiaccio/immagini800x600/part24.jpg 18:49:43 <Darkvater> [Shaman]: it works 18:49:44 <Darkvater> rev 0 18:50:49 <[Shaman]> k, ta 18:51:16 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 18:52:43 <Darkvater> btw 18:52:51 <Darkvater> if I am lucky I might have internet during the holiday 18:53:05 <Darkvater> we have big plans of "stealing" cable and internet from the neighbours :D 18:53:41 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 18:54:13 <Belugas> wifi? 18:54:37 *** d3x7r0 [i=meireles@84.90.228.100] has quit ["Fui embora"] 18:54:38 <Darkvater> no, utp 18:54:52 <Darkvater> if in luck we're gonna install a switch and just split it 18:55:06 <Darkvater> same thing with cable. Dig a trench, put in and voila *D 18:56:01 <Sacro> Darkvater: what country are you in? 18:56:26 <[Shaman]> .nl o_O 18:56:26 <Belugas> I share my adsl with neighbour on wifi. we split the charges, every one is happy 18:56:40 <BobingAbout> :P 18:56:53 <BobingAbout> till nsomeone decided to download loads of stuff 18:57:06 <Belugas> no download limit 18:57:08 <[Shaman]> wifi + download = crap speed :p 18:57:10 <Belugas> no upload limitr 18:57:24 <BobingAbout> still can affect speed though 18:57:48 <Belugas> downloading ottd code does not require a T1... 18:57:55 <[Shaman]> http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=video&file=duckandcover.wmv << wtf, madman :/ 18:57:56 <BobingAbout> lol 18:59:07 <Darkvater> [Shaman]: I'm going to Hungary 18:59:08 <Sacro> impressive 18:59:15 <Sacro> Darkvater: im hungry too :( 18:59:22 * Darkvater slaps Sacro 18:59:41 * Wolf01 me too 18:59:55 <Sacro> !slap Darkvater 19:00:02 <Sacro> hmm, no bot 19:00:04 <hylje> :o 19:00:32 <Sacro> i wanna 19" SLI notebook :( 19:00:52 <Wolf01> sacro, help me plz, see query window 19:01:17 <Sacro> query window? 19:01:54 <hylje> thats not a notebook 19:01:56 <Wolf01> are you using a query-less client? 19:01:59 <hylje> its a desktop replacement 19:02:03 <Sacro> a what now? 19:02:19 <hylje> *cough*private message*cough* 19:02:21 <Sacro> hylje: yes, it would be 19:02:28 <Sacro> hylje: dont have any pms 19:02:45 <Darkvater> register your nick 19:02:49 <Darkvater> freenode is being a nazi 19:02:51 * Sacro has 19:02:54 <Sacro> i think 19:03:05 <glx> identify yourself then 19:03:11 <Sacro> glx: im me :D 19:03:30 <glx> :) 19:03:42 <hylje> Darkvater: although i believe network rules state that "no nazism"? 19:03:51 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd ["Ex-Chat"] 19:03:56 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:03:57 <Sacro> hmm 19:04:14 <glx> wrong button? 19:04:43 <Wolf01> sacro, pm me 19:04:48 <Sacro> yeah, im used to KSIRC opening up a NickServ window 19:04:52 <Sacro> X-Chat doesnt... 19:05:25 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 19:05:27 <Sacro> :o if i order a notepad from alienware today, it gets sent on my birthday 19:05:35 <Wolf01> ...single way pms? 19:05:55 <Wolf01> i can read you... you can read me? 19:06:19 <glx> Wolf01: are you registered and identified ? 19:06:24 <Wolf01> yes 19:06:25 * Darkvater sends Sacro notepad.exe 19:06:43 <Sacro> hmm 19:07:21 <Sacro> £2,748.32 <-- all donations gratefully received 19:07:26 <hylje> :b 19:07:34 <hylje> notepad 19:07:41 <Wolf01> uhm, i'm not identified.... why this network doesn't put back +r on nick when i regain it? 19:07:52 <hylje> stupid network? 19:07:56 <Sacro> +e isnt it? 19:08:06 <hylje> should be 19:08:22 <Sacro> now, desktop, workstation, or server... 19:08:46 <hylje> get a workstation 19:08:47 <hylje> :b 19:08:51 <hylje> a high end one at that 19:09:07 <Sacro> whats the difference? 19:09:31 <Sacro> from 3.2k :| 19:09:37 <hylje> desktop is designed for tasks not needing performance, ie. text editing 19:09:50 * Sacro wants a 500k loan and a country with no trains :( 19:10:03 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176123165.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:10:03 <hylje> workstation is designed for tasks demanding performance, ie. graphical stuff 19:10:04 <BobingAbout> lol 19:10:15 <Sacro> hehe, 64bit emacs 19:10:16 <hylje> server is designed to run server processes 19:10:22 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 19:10:45 <hylje> notebook does what desktop does, although its smaller and can be used on the go 19:11:18 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:12:43 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 19:12:52 <Sacro> hmm, just spent 5k on a pc :( 19:13:13 <Sacro> i only have .005k available: ( 19:13:59 *** Osai^away is now known as Osai 19:14:03 <hylje> what did you get 19:14:15 <Sacro> everything... 19:14:34 <hylje> id be interested in your specs 19:14:49 <Sacro> if i could actually afford to buy it 19:16:26 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:17:16 <Sacro> 700W PSU, AMD64 FX-62, 2x1GB PC-6400 SDRAM, 4x512MB graphics, 1 Physx processing unit, 2.5TB HDD, 2x16xDVDRW, SB X-FI 19:17:41 <Sacro> hmm, all that and no screen 19:18:12 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 19:18:22 <hylje> that looks rather high-end 19:18:28 <hylje> quad sli? :b 19:18:31 <Sacro> hylje: yes 19:18:37 <Sacro> will run OpenTTD like a drea 19:18:38 <Sacro> m 19:18:56 <hylje> definitely 19:19:01 <Sacro> hehe 19:19:10 <glx> ottd doesn't need quad sli 19:19:24 <Sacro> glx: doesnt NEED it, but it cant harm it 19:20:05 <glx> and can be used for other games 19:20:19 <Sacro> other...games...? 19:20:24 <hylje> is there any? 19:20:28 <hylje> worth playing? 19:20:49 <Sacro> ah yes, 1.4K extra for a 30" 2560x1600 screen 19:21:06 <BobingAbout> i was looking at 1 of those once 19:21:06 <glx> nice screen:) 19:21:36 <BobingAbout> i got a 20.1" 1600x1200 screen instead 19:22:03 <hylje> 30" screens are nice 19:22:11 <hylje> a rather local apple store has one 19:22:14 <Sacro> but i havent the desk space 19:22:14 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa100.12.tellas.gr] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 19:22:19 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Client Quit] 19:22:35 <BobingAbout> you need a "Duellink DVI" graphics card to run 1 though... 19:23:04 <Sacro> BobingAbout: im sure my 4x512MB will cover that nicely 19:23:06 <hylje> most pro/highend cards have one 19:23:18 <BobingAbout> :P 19:23:31 <BobingAbout> now tell them what you really have :P 19:23:37 <BobingAbout> is it still that 2500 barton? 19:23:43 <Sacro> i wish 19:23:47 <Sacro> 2100 palamino 19:23:59 <BobingAbout> what happened to your barton? 19:24:00 <Sacro> on the desktop, here ive got a 2.4 P4 19:24:04 <Sacro> never had a barton 19:24:16 <BobingAbout> thought you di... 19:24:27 <BobingAbout> mines a 3200 barton 19:26:56 <BobingAbout> s'like the best 32-bit AMD processor you can get 19:27:46 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 19:28:29 <Sacro> mines the 2nd best palamino 19:28:38 <BobingAbout> lol 19:36:59 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@121.145.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:37:05 <BobingAbout> you find my hard drive yet sacro? 19:37:52 <Sacro> BobingAbout: no 19:51:50 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #Openttd 19:54:33 <Ihmemies> now this rules 19:54:45 <Ihmemies> i got an invitation to one game's beta 19:55:00 <Ihmemies> but i can install it only to c:/program files/ ... :DDD 19:55:05 <Ihmemies> well, that was it i guess 19:55:21 <hylje> :b 19:55:33 <hylje> what game was it 19:55:59 <Ihmemies> readme states the following: "- Choose a location to install to" .. Dungeon RUnners, http://www.dungeonrunners.com/ 19:56:09 <Ihmemies> i have no idea wtf that game is about. some kind of diablo clone maybe? 19:56:30 <hylje> yes 19:56:42 <Ihmemies> anyways :P 19:56:49 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd ["Client exiting"] 19:57:27 <Sacro> a 19:57:42 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:43 <Sacro> Anyone bothered about newsignals for OpenTTD can join me and KUDr in #newsignals 19:58:05 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:00:36 <Darkvater> peter1138: ping 20:00:45 <peter1138> pong 20:01:07 <Darkvater> 5402 is that introduced by trunk or is always present? 20:01:15 <Darkvater> got a testcase for it? 20:01:19 <Darkvater> Fix assertion in TileLoop_Water() caused by oil rigs also using it... 20:01:21 <peter1138> no 20:01:25 <peter1138> it's my bug 20:01:38 <peter1138> (didn't know oil rigs call it o_O) 20:01:56 <Darkvater> ok, so bug caused by 5403? 20:02:09 <peter1138> and i'm now attempting to find out why the toolbar is munged 20:02:14 <Darkvater> please DO say so in the commit log 20:02:16 <Darkvater> eg 20:02:26 <Darkvater> - Fix [r5403]: .... 20:02:27 <Darkvater> or 20:02:32 <Darkvater> - Regression [r5403] 20:02:40 <peter1138> yes, sorry, slipped my mind 20:02:42 <Darkvater> makes it SO much easier to read :) 20:02:54 * Darkvater fires up svnadmin 20:03:05 <peter1138> i thought maybe "fix bug, nothing spectacular" 20:03:12 <peter1138> but that little joke's run its course 20:04:10 <Darkvater> :) 20:04:15 <peter1138> hmm 20:04:17 * Belugas is humming quietly 20:04:26 <peter1138> why do we have a function called 'IsBuoy_' ? 20:04:40 <Darkvater> it probably conflicts with OSX ;p 20:04:46 <peter1138> hehe 20:04:51 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:04:55 <Bjarni> I don't think so 20:05:13 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5407 /branches/0.4/settings_gui.c: 20:05:13 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r5397): 20:05:13 <CIA-3> Redraw the screen when switching the signal side 20:05:27 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:05:27 <Bjarni> at least I never noticed that function, so I guess it's not an OSX fix 20:05:37 <Bjarni> also we make fixes like that in a different way 20:07:02 <Wolf01> anyone knows how works the zoom code? 20:07:54 <Darkvater> you zoom in and out? 20:08:10 <Wolf01> yes 20:08:22 <Darkvater> that's how it works 20:08:36 <Wolf01> i want to add other 2 levels 20:08:58 <glx> I think someone already tried that 20:09:34 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5408 /branches/0.4/lang/ (9 files): 20:09:34 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (Webtranslator2): 20:09:34 <CIA-3> Language changes. Galician, Icelandic seems to have lazy translators.. 20:09:43 <Darkvater> -s 20:10:37 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2FBC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:12:42 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:15:32 <Darkvater> blathijs: ping 20:16:14 *** BobingAbout [n=BobingAb@adsl-83-100-150-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 20:16:36 <Sacro> Darkvater: pong 20:18:18 <Ihmemies> hmh, I installed that dungeon runners to program files anyways.. the game is at version 0.0.0.2 20:18:29 * MiHaMiX thinks Sacro will be kicked since he sniffing the network and responding to other's ICMP echo requests 20:20:35 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Excess Flood] 20:21:18 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:21:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:21:47 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-15.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 20:24:16 <Bjarni> hey, it was Sacro, that needed to be kicked, not me >_< 20:24:27 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 20:25:00 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: wasnt ICMP 20:26:18 <MiHaMiX> [[22:21]] + Bjarni has quit [Excess Flood] 20:26:35 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2CEB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26:37 *** dp_ is now known as dp-- 20:27:36 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5409 /trunk/misc_gui.c: - Regression [r5391]: WE_CLICK event of SelectScenarioWndProc() cascaded to WE_RESIZE handler, causing the Save and Map toolbar widgets to be altered. Fix by putting the break; back. 20:28:01 <peter1138> oops 20:28:29 <peter1138> peter1138 * r5409 /trunk/misc_gui.c: - Fix: nothing spectacular 20:28:33 <hylje> :D 20:29:07 *** Sedated [n=gokeefe@S01060050da7af46c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:31 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 20:32:57 <Bjarni> <MiHaMiX> [[22:21]] + Bjarni has quit [Excess Flood] <-- this is actually pretty interesting as I was truly idling at the time 20:33:38 <Bjarni> I think freenode fucked up 20:33:43 * Bjarni sues freenode 20:33:49 <peter1138> that'll be a surprise 20:35:13 <Bjarni> I'm full of surprises 20:35:26 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:36:14 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Client Quit] 20:36:44 <Bjarni> that was a short visit 20:43:08 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 20:43:59 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2EBC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:17 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2EBC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:46:32 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2EBC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:31 <Darkvater> Logins to SourceForge.net are currently disabled. 20:47:33 <Darkvater> great :S 20:48:00 <hylje> :b 20:48:22 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 20:50:05 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:52:29 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 20:55:45 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:21 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2FBC7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:57:21 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 20:57:35 <Darkvater> bjarni 20:57:38 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 20:57:50 <Darkvater> Bjarni: can you check 1394799 and 1395628 on sourceforge? 20:57:54 *** OwenS [n=OwenS@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:58:19 <XeryusTC> <Mucht> savegame could not been loaded from the server <= someone knows why? 20:58:31 <Mucht> err yes 20:58:35 <Mucht> thats what I wanted to ask *g* 20:58:55 <Mucht> its whenever I try to connect to our sandbox server 20:58:57 <Mucht> 0.4.7 20:59:34 <Mucht> ok its also on every other server :-P 20:59:38 <Bjarni> Darkvater: well.... if that is payment for fixing the issues, then yes :D 20:59:48 <Mucht> I compiled the version by myself and it worked just some minutes ago 21:00:09 <Darkvater> Bjarni: no 'that is payment', read it, both please 21:00:15 <Darkvater> Bjarni: one is autoreplace, other is osx 21:00:17 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:00:24 <Bjarni> hi Trenskow 21:00:31 <Belugas> Bye all 21:00:31 <Bjarni> do you plan on staying this time? 21:00:46 <Bjarni> I guess Belugas didn't 21:00:49 <Bjarni> bye Belugas 21:01:03 <Belugas> did what? 21:01:11 <Bjarni> plan on staying 21:01:27 <Belugas> nope :) it is time to go back to family :) 21:01:39 <Belugas> Baby Bath Time, as lord Vader would say 21:01:45 <Bjarni> good idea 21:04:59 <Sacro> Darth Belugas ? 21:05:16 <Bjarni> Darkvater: 1394799... tricky to solve. I'm not sure it's worth the time 21:07:08 <Bjarni> hmm... is it just me or is it not possible to log into sf right now? 21:07:58 <Darkvater> it's not 21:08:44 <Bjarni> ahh, now it told me that logins are disabled 21:08:57 <Bjarni> yet it tells me to log in :P 21:09:04 <Sacro> Lower cost alternatives to a buffer stop include sleepers fixed to the rails, or a pile of dirt :| 21:09:38 <Sacro> a pile of dirt hardly seems useful 21:10:20 <[Shaman]> now to figgure out why the commit hook dun work O_O 21:10:38 <OwenS> Aah Mucht found his problem... He accidentally compiled as UID1 21:10:47 <OwenS> (Root :P) 21:10:47 <Mucht> lol :-P 21:10:49 <Mucht> hehehe 21:10:58 <Mucht> I had this console open you know... 21:11:00 <Mucht> for days or so... 21:11:03 <Mucht> :-P 21:11:22 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 21:11:25 <OwenS> I wanna install Yakuake 21:11:48 <Sacro> Yakuake? 21:11:57 <OwenS> It's a Quake-Style Konsole 21:12:14 <OwenS> IE press F11 and it drops down 21:12:17 <Sacro> oooh, nice 21:12:28 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:29 <OwenS> It's a fork of the defunct Kuake 21:12:31 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I can't solve that scroll thing either since I don't have a powerbook and I haven't figured out how to code for that two finger system 21:12:49 <Darkvater> k 21:12:52 <Bjarni> I'm not sure motivation is that high since I can't even test what I write 21:13:26 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:14:32 <[Shaman]> any of you know how that CIA svn hook works? :o 21:14:41 <OwenS> Nope 21:14:51 <OwenS> Ive never really got SVN hooks working :( 21:15:06 <[Shaman]> hmf 21:15:56 <[Shaman]> just wondering if a project needs a ruleset before it actually works >_< 21:16:00 <[Shaman]> as in, the bot :P 21:17:37 <Darkvater> Bjarni: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1466027&group_id=103924&atid=636365 21:17:45 <Darkvater> do you even look at reports assigned to you? :) 21:20:52 <Bjarni> yeah 21:21:03 <Bjarni> I saw Moriarty and then I moved on :P 21:21:28 <ln-> Bjarni: i want to re-suggest swapping the functionality of Cmd and Ctrl. 21:21:33 <ln-> even optionally. 21:21:58 <OwenS> You really ought not to have 2 bug trackers... 21:22:35 <Darkvater> yeah... I know 21:22:43 <Bjarni> remember this is the guy, who made the whole channel chase the bug that was caused by his manually editing openttd.cfg to insane values 21:22:53 <OwenS> lol 21:22:54 * Sacro has thought of that 21:23:01 <Trenskow> Bjarni, hi 21:23:13 <Bjarni> now that's a lag 21:23:20 <Bjarni> 10 minutes 21:23:30 <Wolf01> http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2756.html loooool 21:23:42 <Bjarni> ln-: I still think it's a bad idea 21:23:45 <Trenskow> hehe :D 21:24:14 <ln-> Bjarni: it's not. 21:24:42 <Bjarni> Wolf01: I can't see it. I don't have the right plugin and I can't get it. I already tried. They are working on a solution 21:25:29 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:25:36 <Bjarni> ln-: well you know the rules. I say it's a bad idea, then the channel saw says it's a bad idea 21:25:44 <hylje> :o 21:26:02 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 21:26:04 *** hapo [i=pr@kapsi.fi] has left #openttd [] 21:26:12 <Bjarni> ohhh, I got a task for ln- 21:26:24 <ln-> Bjarni: see, two people immediately left after you said that 21:26:37 <Bjarni> love it or leave it 21:26:45 <Bjarni> ln-: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1395628&group_id=103924&atid=636365 21:27:04 <Bjarni> you got the hardware to test on, you know C, so give it a try to see what can be done about it 21:27:26 <Bjarni> that is, if you got time to do so ;) 21:27:43 <ln-> ah, that's the bug i've been telling you about many times. :) 21:28:31 <Sacro> hmm, we need a way to show flashing signals 21:28:41 * peter1138 considers his options 21:28:43 <Sacro> could that be done with the _tick_counter 21:28:48 <peter1138> 1) implement and commit everything 21:28:49 <peter1138> 2) go to bed 21:28:53 <ln-> i could look into it some day. 21:29:00 <Sacro> 1111111eleveltyone11111 21:29:01 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5410 /branches/0.4/ (8 files in 4 dirs): - Prepare 0.4 branch for release. Update readme's, bugs, installers and makefile, changelog, etc. to 0.4.8 21:29:24 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:29:30 <ln-> i'm quite skeptic any patch i possibly make would be committed, but at least it would be useful to myself. 21:29:39 <Sacro> ln-: MiniIN 21:29:56 <ln-> what's MiniIN? 21:30:11 <peter1138> Darkvater: who is readme, and which of its belongings are we updating? 21:30:28 <Sacro> anyone nowergian translate "appurtenan" into english for me? 21:30:34 <Darkvater> peter1138: what? 21:30:38 <peter1138> "readme's" 21:30:47 * peter1138 hides 21:30:50 <Darkvater> ugh 21:30:54 <Darkvater> copy&paste from 0.4.7 21:30:55 <Darkvater> ;p 21:31:00 <peter1138> AH 21:31:04 <peter1138> and who wrote that? ;) 21:31:18 * peter1138 > sleepage 21:31:30 <peter1138> (then i'll think about md5summing 'n stuff) 21:32:14 <Sacro> peter1138: noooooooooo commitage 21:32:25 <Sacro> then get RichK to sync before MiniIN in morning 21:32:35 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> ln-: well you know the rules. I say it's a bad idea, then the channel saw says it's a bad idea <-- hey, I meant law, not saw.... I can't believe that nobody noticed o_O 21:32:56 <Trenskow> is rick in charge of the MiniIN ? 21:33:04 <Sacro> Trenskow: RichK 21:33:17 <Trenskow> were do i post patches 21:33:30 <Trenskow> can't figure where to post my network filter patch now that it's done 21:33:43 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 21:33:48 <Sacro> errm, in the MiniIN topic, or in here when he's about 21:34:37 <Trenskow> MiniIN topic ? 21:34:59 <Sacro> yep, tt-forums 21:35:41 <Trenskow> ahh ok 21:36:55 <Brianetta> . 21:37:19 *** e1ko_AfK is now known as e1ko 21:37:44 <Bjarni> http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2703.html <-- birdstrike o_O 21:42:09 * Sacro wants simsig for linux :( 21:44:08 <Sacro> actually, that'd be a fun multiplayer evenin 21:44:10 <Sacro> g 21:44:34 <Rexxie> "appurtenan" is not a norwegian word 21:45:50 <Wolf01> 'night 21:45:57 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 21:46:38 <Bjarni> Rexxie: did anybody claim that? 21:46:39 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5411 /tags/0.4.8-RC1/: Release 0.4.8-RC1 21:46:54 <Darkvater> ugh damn 21:46:56 <Sacro> Rexxie: its on the wikipedia, was reading about Norway Signalling 21:47:29 <Rexxie> ok.. well it's not in my dictionary, nor have I heard of it.. and I'm norwegian :p 21:47:43 <Sacro> hmm :S never mind 21:50:34 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:54:03 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181114047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:56:43 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:56:57 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:57:02 <Bjarni> Sacro: URL? 21:57:19 <Sacro> Bjarni: Uniform Resource Locator 21:57:32 <Bjarni> no 21:57:33 <Bjarni> to "appurtenan" 21:57:37 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@85.165.253.187] has quit ["edgepro: Why are you staring at my shoes? They're perfectly normal."] 21:57:41 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:58:02 <Bjarni> railroad language got a lot of strange words in it, but I don't think that "appurtenan" is one of them in Norwegian 21:58:44 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_railway_signalling 22:00:42 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:01:01 <ln-> there's no "appurtenan" on that page. 22:01:24 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5412 /tags/0.4.8-RC1/: Sorry, bad tag... 22:01:26 *** Tino|Home [n=Tino@i5387DCC6.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:02:18 <Sacro> # Violet indicates that the appurtenant level crossing signal shows "Stop short of the level crossing". 22:03:33 <Sacro> ooh, it seems to be an english word 22:04:07 <Sacro> makes sense i suppose 22:04:50 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181114047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 22:05:27 <ln-> and there's a 't' in the end. 22:05:32 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:05:46 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181122011.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:05:49 <Sacro> my copy paste should have got that 22:06:32 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5413 /tags/0.4.8-RC1/ (. Makefile network.c openttd.dsp openttd.vcproj): Release 0.4.8-RC1 (try #2) 22:06:48 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 22:06:54 <Darkvater> ok there we go :) 22:07:01 <Bjarni> hopefully 22:07:36 <Bjarni> I wonder why they made a page telling about the Norwegian signals in English 22:08:04 <Sacro> i dunno, but it looks...interesting 22:08:13 *** Darkvater changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.4.8-RC1 | WebTranslator2 public beta test begun! | Website: *.openttd.org (Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Bug-reports: bugs) 22:08:18 <Darkvater> \o/ 22:09:11 <Sacro> whoo, the limit on qdb.us has been lifted 22:09:23 <Darkvater> no, it's presumed known 22:09:23 <Sacro> Please stay tuned... QDB will return soon. :( 22:10:04 <Bjarni> yeah 22:10:14 <Bjarni> it's the end of the world as we know it 22:10:52 <Bjarni> now it's much better because now you have to actually spend time in this channel and write the funny stuff instead of just reading about it 22:11:44 <OwenS> Hey... what number type does the game store the current year in (char, short, int, unsigned short, unsinged int, long int, unsigned long int)? 22:12:23 <Frostregen> isn't this stored as "days"? 22:13:11 <OwenS> I'd have thought, in this case, years made more sense 22:13:24 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_passed_at_danger <-- I know of an incident where this happened.... the train ran half a meter too long, but it was far enough for the alarm to trigger and completely lock down the entire station (6 tracks) 22:13:26 <Bjarni> shit happens :P 22:14:08 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has left #openttd [] 22:14:18 <Bjarni> I think it's stored as days since the 1st of January 1920 22:14:25 <OwenS> Hmm 22:14:33 <OwenS> Still, what number type? 22:14:49 <Darkvater> uint16 22:14:58 <OwenS> Aah 22:15:03 <Bjarni> and it overflows in 2093 or something like that 22:15:03 <Bjarni> you can figure out the number type from that ;) 22:15:10 <Bjarni> Darkvater: you made it too easy for him :P 22:15:14 <OwenS> 2091 according to Configure Patches 22:15:26 <OwenS> Yeah, thought I was right 22:15:38 <OwenS> Does the game detect it, or will we be thrown into the dark ages? :P 22:15:44 <OwenS> Like, does it loop at 2091 forever? :P 22:15:52 <glx> it loops 22:16:01 <glx> at 2090 22:16:04 <Bjarni> it's not 2091, but 2090 is a nice end year compared to 2092 or something like that 22:16:16 <OwenS> Hehe 22:16:34 <Vornicus> Does ottd know about leap years? 22:16:48 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:26 <OwenS> Shame; Screws up finances :P 22:19:01 <[Shaman]> Maybe time to change the date variable to a day and year variable, so we can play from -2000 to 99999999 AD :p 22:19:03 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19:14 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 22:19:17 * Vornicus asks Python how many years are in 65536 days, gets 179. 22:19:19 <OwenS> Or just make it a uint32 :P 22:19:36 <[Shaman]> OwenS: Nah, that doesn't leave enough space for 'expansion' :P 22:19:41 <OwenS> lol 22:19:45 <glx> [Shaman]: try past-2090 patch on forum 22:19:46 <OwenS> uint64 :P 22:19:47 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78879.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:20:00 <[Shaman]> soon people will realise that 2300 will be the absolute max and they go cry because they want 2301 22:20:09 <[Shaman]> glx: I'll wait till it's merged with MiniIN :P 22:20:17 <OwenS> uint64 :P 22:20:27 <OwenS> Or even silly... uint128 22:20:35 <[Shaman]> uint1024 O_O 22:20:46 <OwenS> OK an add would take a seccond :P 22:20:58 <[Shaman]> yar :P 22:21:03 <[Shaman]> hence 2 variables :P 22:21:03 <OwenS> And how long would the typedef be? 22:21:23 <OwenS> typedef unsigned long long long long long long long long <....> uint1024 22:21:46 <Sacro> s'ok, pcs will die in 2038 hehehe 22:22:25 <gradator> on 64 bits systems the time_t is a long long 22:22:28 <Vornicus> long long long long long long <--- should be enough. 22:22:41 <Bjarni> I don't think so 22:22:53 <gradator> in 2038 for sure no 32 bits system will still run ;) 22:22:54 <Vornicus> for a 1024-bit number, anyway 22:23:13 <Bjarni> I mean, our great grand children should be able to continue the games we start today even if we never stop or pause them 22:23:17 <Vornicus> no 32-bit system will run Unix with a one-register time value. 22:23:44 <OwenS> Embedded devices... 22:23:50 <OwenS> We still use 8-Bit UCs today 22:24:10 <Bjarni> OwenS: at school or in real life? 22:24:21 <Vornicus> 32 bit devices will probably still exist unless there's a complete revolution. 22:24:25 <Vornicus> in real life. 22:24:53 <OwenS> Real life 22:24:58 <OwenS> Why, look at your keyboard ;) 22:25:04 <OwenS> Or hifi 22:25:05 <Sacro> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Clapham_Junction_Railway_Station_-_Acute_end_of_the_Railway_Junction_-_London_-_240404.jpg thats a junction 22:25:06 <OwenS> Or TV 22:25:07 <Darkvater> Bjarni: now you can compile 0.4.8RC1 :) 22:25:14 <Bjarni> then you don't expect them to perform like a pentium 4 anyway ;) 22:25:33 <OwenS> Pentium 4 sucks :P 22:25:38 <OwenS> Get an Athlon 64 :P 22:25:47 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:25:52 <Bjarni> Darkvater: hopefully. I will try tomorrow. I need to dig up my universal libpng lib again 22:26:04 <Bjarni> OwenS: whatever... you get the point 22:26:07 <OwenS> In 2038 your watch will probably have upgraded to a 16-Bit CPU :P 22:26:09 <Bjarni> (or you are stupid) 22:26:12 <Bjarni> your pick :P 22:26:18 <Darkvater> Bjarni: :), SF is down anyways :S 22:26:20 <OwenS> I prefer the first :P 22:29:02 *** bulio [n=bulio@unaffiliated/bulio] has quit [] 22:30:02 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.2/2006051612]"] 22:30:48 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["quit"] 22:42:41 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:43:05 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:44:10 *** HoNgOuRu [i=hongo@r201-217-149-245.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #openttd 22:44:30 <HoNgOuRu> coulkd someone send me this file ? dev-frcy.r25 "far cry" 22:45:27 <Sacro> HoNgOuRu: probably, but i doubt anyone in here will 22:45:45 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:46:22 *** OwenS [n=OwenS@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has left #openttd ["Kopete 0.11.3 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 22:46:38 <Darkvater> < gn all 22:46:40 *** Darkvater [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit ["leaving"] 22:47:38 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.13] has joined #openttd 22:52:57 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 22:59:46 <UnderBuilder> Why the 0.4.8 RC1 isn't too disponible? 23:00:36 <UnderBuilder> now see why :) 23:01:56 <Sacro> If, for instance, a customer asks you to stop by to answer some security questions about a product, you can grab the most relevant information online--perhaps something like the number of critical patches issued by Microsoft and its closest competitors over the previous year. 23:02:16 <Sacro> surely people would want the one who'd released the LEAST patches though 23:02:59 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:04:05 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5414 /branches/0.4/readme.txt: Also update the readme file to 0.4.8 23:04:58 <XeryusTC> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25914 http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25918 <- double post in same section :o 23:05:07 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5415 /trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): - Forward-port the release-changes from the 0.4 branch back to trunk. This ensures an updated changelog, known-bugs, etc. 23:07:24 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-211-111.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:08:46 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 23:09:27 <RichK67> hi all 23:10:27 <Bjarni> night people 23:10:28 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:10:42 <XeryusTC> heya RichK67 23:12:07 <RichK67> coo - bit quiet in here... few of the normal faces 23:12:33 <RichK67> brb 23:13:44 <UnderBuilder> what is the more anoying thing that you see the AI do? 23:14:37 <UnderBuilder> I see normally that those ends a section and starts to removing the roads without reason 23:14:42 <UnderBuilder> I mean old ai 23:15:03 <RichK67> most annoying? mad loopy loopy zillion bridges tight turning railtracks when a simple straight line is easy to find 23:16:31 *** Osai^zZz [n=Osai@p54B37396.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:16:51 <UnderBuilder> but I don't understand why they destroy the lines when they have completed it =S 23:19:52 <Ihmemies> RC1 o/ \o/ 23:20:16 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:20:30 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 23:20:43 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:49 <Ihmemies> it's just a bugfix release 23:22:05 <Brianetta> I did it 23:22:20 <Brianetta> A fully working IRC <==> OpenTTD chat bridge 23:22:37 <SpComb> 'jej' 23:22:40 <SpComb> with channels? 23:22:45 <Brianetta> #openttdcoop 23:22:47 <pv2b> that's nothing. i made an extention to quake once so I could IRC in quake 23:22:49 <pv2b> :-) 23:22:56 <Brianetta> That's Quake 23:23:02 <Brianetta> This is OpenTTD (:(:(:(:(: 23:23:20 <RichK67> well done brianetta - great work 23:23:27 <Brianetta> (: ta 23:23:32 <Brianetta> autopilot gains power 23:23:32 *** Ammler [n=irc@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 23:23:39 <SpComb> is the OpenTTD chat rate-limited? 23:24:05 <Brianetta> No idea 23:24:11 <SpComb> can I find out? 23:24:18 <Brianetta> If you *must* 23:24:31 <SpComb> and attempt to flood you off IRC? 23:24:40 <Brianetta> I have no clever stuff in there 23:24:50 <Brianetta> Hell, I don't even handle PING code myself 23:25:18 *** fusey [n=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 23:25:56 <pv2b> the openttd chatr is not rate limited 23:26:06 <pv2b> there was this guy on a server i put up once 23:26:17 <pv2b> he had a script which spammed the chat 23:26:19 <pv2b> i kicked him :-) 23:26:33 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:26:36 <lws1984> ttt 23:26:39 <lws1984> meh 23:27:02 *** Ammler [n=irc@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #openttd [] 23:30:04 <Ihmemies> hnmh 23:30:09 <Ihmemies> is the game speed always default? 23:30:17 <Ihmemies> i mean the years roll always as fast, no matter what? 23:31:46 <pv2b> it's always so fast that if you listen to kraftwerk's "trans europa express", there is one game-day for every bar of the music :-) 23:31:54 <pv2b> i always though that was kinda fitting 23:31:59 <pv2b> thought 23:32:07 <pv2b> that's what i've observed though :-) 23:32:16 <Vornicus> a game day lasts 2.5ish seconds 23:32:38 <Vornicus> 2.466 seconds, to be exact - 74 frames at 30fps 23:33:15 <pv2b> nice coincidence that it matches up with kraftwerk then :-) 23:33:30 <Ihmemies> another question is how I could tweak the generated map's settings.. 23:34:18 <Ihmemies> i tried the newest miniIn build, it generates huge sea areas, hill steps are clearly visible and there's barely some random trees scattered.. 23:34:41 <Vornicus> Which settings? You can pick the inputs to TGPerlin, both seed and basis stuff. 23:34:48 <Ihmemies> hmmh 23:35:12 <Vornicus> If you want to play around with it, the scenario editor lets you rebuild the map with the same seed. 23:35:12 <Ihmemies> tgperlin? 23:35:40 <Vornicus> TGPerlin, being the map generation system in MiniIN, created by RichK67. 23:35:46 <RichK67> :) 23:36:55 <Vornicus> It is made of awesome, but iirc it still needs tuning. 23:37:16 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:37:28 <RichK67> yeah - main generation routine is pretty much it now 23:37:31 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:38:05 <RichK67> its the other parts of generation that need improving now - especially industries 23:38:33 <Ihmemies> uh, ok 23:38:34 <Vornicus> DId you manage to get the coastline map-edge coastlines to work? 23:38:35 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:38:40 <RichK67> on a 2048x2048 map, with high industries, it can take 75%+ of the time to place industries 23:38:41 <Ihmemies> btw why the music player doesn't work in miniin 23:38:51 <Ihmemies> it just scrolls through all the tracks in like 2 secs :P 23:38:59 <Ihmemies> and that's it. 23:39:04 <RichK67> vorn: yes; KUDr improved the routine completely 23:39:24 <glx> Ihmemies: do you have gm folder? 23:39:33 <RichK67> lhm: have you included your .gm folder with all the music? 23:39:46 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:39:56 <RichK67> lol.... echo... :) 23:40:13 <Ihmemies> uh 23:40:24 <Ihmemies> forgot to copy it :P 23:41:06 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:41:13 <RichK67> :) 23:41:38 <Vornicus> ...man. KUDr is everywhere, isn't he. 23:41:58 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:42:27 <CIA-3> richk * r5416 /branches/MiniIN/ (main_gui.c patches/MiniINpatches.zip settings.c variables.h): 23:42:27 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [TransparencyOptions]: Update to transparency options. 23:42:27 <CIA-3> Many thanks to Wolf01 for MiniIN patch update. 23:42:29 <Ihmemies> so.. there isn't any "more trees" option yet? ;) 23:42:55 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:43:54 <RichK67> lhm: in the ScenGen, clicking More Trees is very efficient now... it clumps and builds more on hills, especially in arctic and tropic... but for general generation, it keeps trees at a moderate level 23:45:42 <Ihmemies> ahh, now I understand :P 23:45:51 <Ihmemies> i don't have to place every tree manually in scen editor ;P 23:45:56 <Ihmemies> nor piece of land 23:49:07 <Ihmemies> only problem is that it doesn't generate lighthouses&radio masts randomly :o 23:50:45 <RichK67> err... they are, but the land is less amenable to them, so more get rejected, and so they cluster around where they can fit 23:51:17 <RichK67> that bit needs a rewrite along with industries 23:52:12 <Ihmemies> ok :P 23:52:20 <RichK67> i actually managed to trigger an infinite loop on lighthouse placement... its always been there, but was just not going to happen with the old generator 23:53:40 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:53:44 <RichK67> the lighthouse chooses a random point 3 tiles in from the edge, and then "walks" up to 20 tiles (i think) in a random diagonal direction... if it doesnt hit coast, it tries again.... TGP coasts are often now more than the "walk" from the edge 23:57:18 *** HoNgOuRu [i=hongo@r201-217-149-245.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 23:59:23 <Ihmemies> signal auto-completion is hax 23:59:44 <Ihmemies> pfffft