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Log for #openttd on 24th July 2006:
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00:36:42  <Sacro> where'd #tycoon go :|
00:38:48  <Zavior> You splitted
00:39:00  <Sacro> im still there, everyone else splitted
00:39:29  <Zavior> im still there, everyone else but you stayd there :p
00:39:51  <Sacro> :O
00:39:57  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
00:39:57  <Sacro> !logs
00:40:36  <Sacro> who killed my line
00:41:44  <Sacro> [01:42] * [Sacro] (~ben@83.100.248.98): Ben Woodward
00:41:44  <Sacro> [01:42] * [Sacro] @#tycoon
00:41:51  <Sacro> :| that cannae be right
00:42:55  <Sacro> arrgh, but SpComb's logs show me as entering and leaving :'( how come he can see that
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00:57:55  <BurningFeetMan> What's better? #tycoon or #openttd?
00:58:58  <glx> #tycoon is for ttdpatch
00:59:03  <Sacro> #openttd
01:00:39  <BurningFeetMan> Excellent
01:01:06  <Sacro> mr burns esque?>
01:02:22  <exe_> #sharpttd?
01:04:25  <Sacro> eh?
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01:19:33  <ln-> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1524780&group_id=108675&atid=651195
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01:44:12  <Sacro> ln-: pear pc wasnt works
01:44:44  <Sacro> wasnt = past tense
01:44:53  <Sacro> works = positive
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03:51:25  <spoon> afternoon all :D
03:54:04  <lws1984> there is no spoon! :p
03:56:18  *** spoon is now known as matex
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03:56:28  <Matex> but there is a Matex
03:56:32  <Matex> I forget what name I use in here
03:56:35  <Matex> is it spoon or Matex?
03:57:58  <BurningFeetMan> Matex me thinks
03:58:56  <Matex> oic
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05:25:13  <Zr40> hmm
05:25:17  <Zr40> I'm having a weird sound issue
05:35:36  <BurningFeetMan> What sort?
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05:37:51  <Zr40> well, the sounds are repeating
05:48:02  <BurningFeetMan> Constant trucks turning over, trains tooting? haha, sounds normal to me!
05:55:01  <Zr40> heh, not that kind of repeating :D
05:55:15  <Zr40> it's repeating inside the sound
05:55:22  <BurningFeetMan> What version?
05:55:24  <BurningFeetMan> What hardware?
05:55:26  <BurningFeetMan> ect ect
05:57:50  <Zr40> svn trunk (on linux), onboard realtek sound thing
05:58:32  <Zr40> but other sound-generating programs (like mplayer) do play correctly
06:00:04  <Zr40> hmm, not sure about this realtek
06:00:29  <Zr40> the windows drivers feature a realtek logo, but according to 'lspci', it's an ALi chip
06:08:21  <SpComb> someone called?
06:15:12  <peter1138> ghostbusters
06:16:04  <mikk36> Zr40, i have the same problem on my laptop... with intel sound :/
06:16:53  <mikk36> the same problem with 0.4.7 and also the latest svn
06:17:42  <mikk36> CeleronM 1.4, 512MB RAM, intel ICH4
06:18:02  <mikk36> is not related to any resolution
06:18:26  <mikk36> it echos the sound about 5 times i think
06:18:37  <Triffid_Hunter> sound works fine with my AC97 nforce2 onboard audio
06:18:45  <mikk36> in linux ?
06:18:49  <Triffid_Hunter> yup
06:18:57  <mikk36> ok
06:19:03  <mikk36> alsa ?
06:19:27  <Triffid_Hunter> if not alsa then alsa-oss emulation.. where's the setting?
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06:21:53  <Triffid_Hunter> openttd is using SDL.. no idea what SDL is using
06:23:00  <Triffid_Hunter> my libsdl is compiled with alsa support but not oss
06:23:37  <Zr40> mikk36: I'm also using the intel hd driver
06:23:50  <mikk36> i have only alsa installed there
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06:23:53  <Zr40> same here
06:25:16  <Zr40> I've recorded the audio
06:25:20  <Zr40> any preferred formats?
06:25:23  <Zr40> ogg? :)
06:25:26  <mikk36> sure
06:25:38  <mikk36> should be openable by everyone
06:29:25  <Triffid_Hunter> curious.. when using alsa, it just mixes a buzz over my music
06:30:31  <Triffid_Hunter> oh wait I had my AUDIODEV set to plug:stereo instead of just stereo
06:30:34  <Tron> try setting SDL_AUDIODRIVER to alsa/oss/whatever
06:30:59  <Triffid_Hunter> SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa AUDIODEV=stereo works perfectly for me, mixing with mplayer and all
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06:32:50  <Zr40> hmm
06:33:01  <Zr40> anywhere I can upload a 240KB .ogg to? :)
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06:34:19  <Zr40> Triffid_Hunter: with those environment variables, I don't get any sound at all
06:34:48  <Triffid_Hunter> Zr40: you probably don't have a 'stereo' device like I do
06:34:58  <Triffid_Hunter> try default or hw:0 or plug:dmix instead
06:35:21  <Zr40> default works, but looks like it's default ;)
06:35:45  <Zr40> hw:0 also works, but plays way too fast and high (but is quite funny)
06:36:45  <Triffid_Hunter> Zr40: sounds like you need a more recent alsa-lib or something
06:36:59  <Zr40> like?
06:36:59  <Triffid_Hunter> i'm using 1.0.11-r1
06:37:04  <Zr40> 1.0.11 here
06:37:12  <Triffid_Hunter> kernel 2.6.17
06:37:21  <Zr40> 2.6.16-gentoo-r3
06:37:27  <Zr40> r13*
06:37:30  <Triffid_Hunter> hand-rolled /etc/asound.conf that seems to crash every other machine I try it on
06:37:41  <Triffid_Hunter> yet works perfectly here
06:37:46  <Zr40> no /etc/asound.conf :)
06:38:15  <Triffid_Hunter> mine gives me a stereo device which dmixes, as well as generating 6 channels of sound from the two input ones
06:38:32  <Triffid_Hunter> as well as separate stereo channels for front, rear and center+sub
06:38:37  <Zr40> I believe the default configuration also provides dmix
06:38:47  <Triffid_Hunter> you shouldn't need it but it's fun to play with
06:45:58  <Zr40> 'speaker-test -D cards.pcm.surround40 -c 4' plays noise on the correct speakers here
06:46:15  <Zr40> same with surround71 -c 8, without side speakers because I don't have those
06:46:24  <Zr40> but surround 51 and -c 6 doesn't work
06:47:14  <Zr40> but that shouldn't matter regarding the openttd sound problem :P
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06:59:00  <Zr40> I can't find a free storage facility. :(
06:59:10  <Zr40> I'll just dcc it to whoever it wants
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07:02:35  <Zr40> ...to whoever wants it, of course
07:02:49  <mikk36> lol
07:03:03  <mikk36> to who does ur ogg vorbis go to ? :D
07:03:16  <Zr40> to you, if you want it ;)
07:03:27  <mikk36> damn, still missed one word :P
07:03:41  <mikk36> to who does ur ogg vorbis WANT to go to ? :P
07:04:03  <Zr40> I haven't asked
07:04:09  <Zr40> :D
07:04:13  <mikk36> u don't need to send it to me, i have the same problem myself :P
07:04:30  <mikk36> and i think i've heard enough chorus :P
07:05:45  <mikk36> anyway, for free upload.. maybe this ? http://upload2.net/
07:05:56  <TheMask96> well... you don't need the music to play the game :)
07:06:08  <mikk36> TheMask96, i don't hear the music anyway :P
07:06:18  <Zr40> thanks for that :)
07:06:19  <mikk36> but all the sounds have a chorus effect
07:06:32  <Zr40> http://www.upload2.net/page/download/dJFYYpYJEwTBvcW/raw_SND_5811.ogg.html
07:07:14  <TheMask96> mikk36: I usually play it without sound, cause after one hour it really starts to get annoying :)
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07:16:23  <Zr40> mikk36: when I refresh that download page, I sometimes get a different file
07:16:33  <mikk36> :/
07:17:06  <mikk36> [Beta version]
07:17:10  <Zr40> indeed
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08:15:59  <roboboy> how much does an intercontinental airport cost
08:16:24  <peter1138> 4.2 billion pounds
08:16:30  <peter1138> maybe
08:17:04  <roboboy> hm i dont have that much
08:17:21  <peter1138> just as well i made it up
08:17:38  <peter1138> if it's buildable, why not find out the cost?
08:17:43  <roboboy> i need to know cause im playing brians server and already have planes going to a city airport
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08:18:20  <roboboy> and shift click wont work
08:18:25  <peter1138> it won't?
08:18:53  <roboboy> because theres a city airport in the way
08:19:21  <roboboy> it says i have to remove it before i can build the intercontinental
08:19:31  <peter1138> oh
08:19:32  <peter1138> lol
08:19:38  <peter1138> you can test it somewhere else though, no?
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08:22:06  <roboboy> nope mountaines map
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08:32:03  <mikk36> roboboy, start ur own map from year 2030 ?
08:32:14  <roboboy> found out
08:32:39  <mikk36> and how much is it then ?
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08:32:53  <mikk36> mornin', RichK67_wrk
08:33:47  <RichK67_wrk> hi
08:34:48  <roboboy> hello
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08:37:17  <BurningFeetMan> Err, is it possible to rename trains in 0.4.7?
08:37:53  <mikk36> why shouldn't it be possible ?
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10:44:39  <Frostregen> OwenS: how far did you play?
10:48:15  <OwenS> For a while, until I got hit with an assert on the server :(
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10:50:46  <OwenS> Aah well, most of my junction is still there :)
10:52:55  <OwenS> It's up BTW]
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10:57:37  <Frostregen> have to write an exam now, and work at evening
10:58:10  <Frostregen> if there is not much to do at work, i'll join
10:58:15  <OwenS> OK :)
10:58:48  <Frostregen> 13:00 now. 18:00 work begins. so around 19:00 i try to join
10:58:50  <Frostregen> cya :)
10:59:04  <OwenS> OK, bye
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11:14:57  <Nickman87> hi OwenS
11:15:03  <OwenS> Hi
11:15:10  <Nickman87> How are you? :)
11:15:13  <OwenS> Fine
11:15:20  <OwenS> I'm all alone on the NAD coop server though :(
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11:15:44  <Nickman87> ooooh
11:15:54  <Nickman87> I would like to join, but I had a version mismatch :s
11:16:12  <OwenS> Ill send you mu sources :)
11:16:18  <Nickman87> :D
11:16:37  <Nickman87> make shure it compiles on VC :p
11:16:42  <OwenS> `lol
11:17:02  <Nickman87> so don't forget the include...
11:19:51  <OwenS> Oh, youll need to add that
11:20:10  <Nickman87> maybe that's what the version mismatch causes?
11:20:26  <OwenS> Nah, you probably got a different MiniIN version
11:20:32  <Nickman87> can be :)
11:21:20  <Nickman87> I get: norev000
11:21:39  <OwenS> I wouldn't think showing a dialog requires RNG calls
11:22:00  <Nickman87> ?
11:22:06  <OwenS> Random number generator
11:22:10  <Nickman87> :)
11:22:15  <OwenS> Oh wait. that doesn't make version mismatches
11:22:19  <OwenS> You did get a different rev :P
11:22:20  <Nickman87> nope
11:22:25  <Nickman87> that makes desyncs :p
11:26:26  <OwenS> Uploading it now
11:26:31  <OwenS> 15 mins :(
11:27:10  <Nickman87> :)
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11:27:27  <ln-> end of discussion!
11:27:30  <Nickman87> damn AMD has bought ATI :| :(
11:28:05  <tank_> poor amd...
11:28:15  <OwenS> I would havge prefered them to buy nVidia ):
11:28:21  <tank_> now i'll have to go and buy via cpus  :(
11:28:28  <OwenS> lol, why?
11:28:36  <Nickman87> yeah :p
11:28:37  <Nickman87> haha :D
11:28:45  <Nickman87> I like AMD + Nvidia better :(
11:28:51  <Nickman87> NForce chipsets rule...
11:29:02  <Biff_> have they actually bought it now?
11:29:08  <Nickman87> yep
11:29:19  <OwenS> Not yet
11:29:26  <OwenS> Thje transaction closes Q4 06
11:29:32  <tank_> OwenS: i once had an ati graphics card. i used it under linux for some time. since then i said, that i will never buy anything again from ati.
11:29:36  <Nickman87> 5,4 billion dollar
11:29:44  <Nickman87> haha :D
11:29:55  <Biff_> anyone have a link to news article about it?
11:29:59  <Nickman87> yeah, but AMD bbought ATI, so you can still buy AMD cpu's ;)
11:30:05  <Nickman87> I have a dutch one... :p
11:30:05  <Biff_> i only read they had put in a bid for it
11:30:07  <OwenS> It's probably mostly 5.4 in shares
11:30:09  <OwenS> http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_14197_14198,00.html?redir=goBG01
11:30:33  <Nickman87> I'll be back in about 15 minutes, gonna take shower ;)
11:30:48  <Biff_> thanks OwenS
11:30:58  <OwenS> Its ironic since AMD just teamed up with nVidia to produce SLI Memory.....
11:31:15  <BurningFeetMan> http://www.explosm.net/comics/608/
11:31:56  <RichK67_wrk> maybe thats the point - you buy out ATI to eliminate the rival to our shared technology
11:32:05  <OwenS> Aaah
11:32:09  <OwenS> Possibly
11:32:31  <RichK67_wrk> if nVidia bought ATI it would be monopoly situation
11:32:49  <RichK67_wrk> regulators would be interested
11:33:24  <OwenS> Although its more a branding thing than anything...
11:33:33  <OwenS> SLI memory has nothing to do with SLI
11:33:57  <Nickman87> what is SLI memory? O_o
11:34:27  <OwenS> DDR2 which can be reclocked to work better with the processor
11:34:50  <OwenS> Will it be renamed Crossfire Memory now? XD
11:51:28  <Nickman87> haha :D
11:51:30  <Nickman87> who knows ;)
11:51:35  <Nickman87> is the source yet up? :D
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11:53:30  <Nickman87> OwenS?
11:53:40  <OwenS> Yep
11:53:42  <OwenS> Oh, sorry
11:53:53  <OwenS> http://res1.humgun.com/ttdnand/serverin.tar.bz2
11:54:21  <OwenS> Hmm
11:54:25  <OwenS> Somethings messed up there
11:54:44  <OwenS> It no longer matches the server revision :s
11:54:53  <OwenS> Hang on
11:54:58  <Nickman87> :p
11:55:16  <Nickman87> make shure the project files are still there ;)
11:55:19  <OwenS> I'm gonna change the server's exe over :P
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11:57:11  <Nickman87> :D
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11:57:24  <Nickman87> should I download those source files now?
11:57:28  <OwenS> Yep
11:58:13  <Nickman87> they are on their way
11:58:15  <OwenS> OK, ive gotta go now. Ill put it back up in a bit
11:59:26  <Nickman87> when will you be back ?
12:06:27  <Sacro> :O
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13:26:07  <Belugas> Mister Bjarni! Hello
13:31:22  <Bjarni> hi people
13:31:28  <Bjarni> anything interesting happening?
13:33:01  <Belugas> not much, all is quite
13:33:14  <Belugas> in new year's day
13:34:33  <Bjarni> o_O
13:34:39  <Bjarni> new year's day???
13:34:49  <Bjarni> it's the 24th of July
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13:35:23  <Bjarni> Belugas: now I got to burn you for using a false calendar
13:35:40  <Belugas> no sens of humour
13:35:47  <Belugas> that or no musical history
13:35:50  <Belugas> :P
13:35:56  <Belugas> maybe both!
13:36:13  <Bjarni> everybody, who knows me rules out #1 right away
13:36:34  <Belugas> no musical history then...
13:36:41  <Bjarni> and I would like to say, that #2 is not entirely true either
13:37:11  <Belugas> That were the two first sentences of U2, New Year's Day
13:37:11  <Bjarni> I think you think of some Canadian thing :P
13:37:19  <Bjarni> ahh
13:37:24  <Belugas> "All Is Quite"
13:37:31  <Belugas> "On new year's day"
13:37:48  <Bjarni> <Belugas>	in new year's day
13:37:49  <Bjarni> <Belugas>	"On new year's day"
13:37:54  <Bjarni> make up your mind :P
13:38:29  <Belugas> heheh
13:39:14  <Belugas> i'm buzy controling service manager for windoz, so, kind of not completely there...
13:39:30  <Belugas> for work, not OTTD
13:47:09  <glx> Belugas has a mono-task brain :)
13:48:12  <Belugas> yeah
13:48:20  * Bjarni wonders how to install a dualcore brain in Belugas to ensure better multitasking
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13:48:41  <Belugas> I'm good at what i'm doing, as long as i can concentrate on it completely
13:48:49  <Belugas> Bjarni, don;t touch my brain
13:49:20  <Bjarni> <Belugas>	I'm good at what i'm doing, as long as i can concentrate on it completely <-- well, it's better than being good at multitasking and nothing else ;)
13:49:29  <RichK67_wrk> yeah, you dont want to accidentally trigger a core dump ;)
13:49:36  <Belugas> indeed :)
13:50:44  <Belugas> by the, Bjarni, speaking on doing things : tgp TODO.tgp ;)
13:50:49  <Eddi|zuHause> err... yuck...
13:51:53  <Belugas> Bjarni: I was not aware you were still around, saturday night, so it is why I did not told you so ;)
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13:52:29  <Bjarni> ?
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13:55:00  <Belugas> Yeah, when i said that apart from you and DV, everyone else did commited something in tgp
13:55:39  <Belugas> and it is now a collective work rather than an individual effort
13:56:22  <Bjarni> ahh that
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13:56:50  <glx> and TL is putting map generation in a thread (so we can see progress)
13:57:36  <RichK67_wrk> and its looking COOL too :)
13:57:43  * RichK67_wrk has seen progress :)
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13:58:57  <RichK67_wrk> its like seeing a print develop in a darkroom... first the land, then towns, trees, then industries, then ready...
14:02:34  <Belugas> could not tell, too buzy with home improvemnt, have not seen it yet :(
14:03:49  <RichK67_wrk> its not perfect yet, but the test version lets you scroll around the map while it is being built :)
14:04:29  <RichK67_wrk> problem is that sometimes causes asserts due to conflicting graphics updates :(
14:05:16  <RichK67_wrk> ie. it starts drawing something, but by the time it has finished, the sprite at that location has changed... it gets ugly ;)   occasionally :)
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14:15:30  <Nickman87> when will the thread be done? :)
14:16:12  <Belugas> * sight *
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14:17:25  <Nickman87> :p
14:18:00  <Belugas> wrong question Nickman87.  Good work takes long.
14:18:11  <Belugas> It is almost impossible to tell.
14:18:53  <Nickman87> k ;), I thought he was working on it right now ;)
14:19:32  <Belugas> even if he was...
14:20:05  <Belugas> I'm working on newcargos for more then 2 months, not able to tell when it's going to be finished either
14:20:14  <RichK67_wrk> TL is doing wonders on TGP... it will be worth waiting for
14:22:03  <Rexxie> whatever happened to PBS? are there any plans to ever implement it again?
14:22:11  <Eddi|zuHause> yes
14:22:29  <Eddi|zuHause> but it needs a lot of preparational work first
14:23:04  <tron_> if thread synchronisation is taken into account beforehand it's pretty much impossible to get it right afterwards
14:23:10  <tron_> s/is/isn't/
14:25:34  <Rexxie> but there hasnt been any concrete work done on it since.. well since the last commit to the PBS branch?
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14:30:35  <Rubidium> Rexxie: YAPF was done as a prepatory step towards a new PBS
14:30:48  <glx> Rexxie: PBS needs a total rewrite
14:31:36  <Rexxie> ah, ok
14:31:50  <Rexxie> seemed like too good a feature to leave out ;)
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14:33:12  <Rubidium> it rather seemed like a too buggy feature to leave in :(
14:33:25  <OwenS> I'm back :)
14:34:54  * Rexxie throws confetti
14:34:59  <OwenS> lol
14:35:05  <OwenS> Bjarni: Have you got any idea how I could mark a tile as passed by this invocation of the signalling engine?
14:35:30  <OwenS> Marking it on the tile won't work, as I would have no way of trackiing past tiles
14:35:44  <OwenS> An associative array would be good, but theres no implementation already in OpenTTD of one
14:36:30  <peter1138> well it's not php, heh
14:36:53  <OwenS> If it were C++ I could use a std::map...
14:37:13  <OwenS> Java, a java.util.HashTable
14:37:21  <tron_> how about writing an associative array?
14:37:21  <OwenS> But theres no standard C implementation
14:37:43  <Bjarni> what are you talking about?
14:37:52  <OwenS> Associative arrays
14:38:17  <OwenS> So I can mark tile 1048 as passed this invocation without a 1048 element array
14:40:41  <Bjarni> what do you mean by passed?
14:40:54  <Bjarni> the signal thing?
14:40:57  <OwenS> Yeah
14:40:59  <Belugas> waht is an Associative Array?
14:41:07  <OwenS> Where you can associate any key with a value
14:41:20  <OwenS> For example, I could have array[2000] without 2000 elements
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14:41:34  <Belugas> ho.. ok  2000 is a key, not an index
14:41:54  <Bjarni> it might have helped to know that you were talking about a reply I wrote on the forum a while ago... I have done a lot of stuff meanwhile so it was not the first thing I thought of ;)
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14:42:15  <OwenS> I wasn't :s
14:42:42  <Bjarni> you should not store "passed" tiles
14:43:04  <Bjarni> you should store "reserved train path" tiles like PBS
14:43:29  <Bjarni> so if the tile is not reserved, then it would act the same as it is passed
14:43:40  <OwenS> Sorr, I meant signals
14:43:54  <OwenS> sorry**
14:44:06  <Bjarni> heh, this just keep getting better and better
14:44:20  <OwenS> It's too hot, my brains half switched off :(
14:44:53  * Bjarni installs a safety valve at OwenS'
14:45:07  <Bjarni> watch out for the steam
14:45:46  <OwenS> It's about 30deg C temperature... Which is high for the UK
14:46:02  <Bjarni> this is not a simple change. It's something that should be done together with PBS and YAPF
14:47:13  <OwenS> This isn't to do with trains, it's to do with smarter NAND hang prevention. Rather than limiting it to triggering N segments, I limit it to changing a single signal only N times
14:48:00  <OwenS> Thus allowing almost infinite complexity NAND "circuits" but avoiding hangs
14:51:43  <OwenS> Of course I would need an associative array for it not to take up a tonne of memory...
14:52:00  <tron_> implement one
14:52:37  <OwenS> I would; But since i'm not knowledgeble on making an efficient associative array i'm afraid it would be rather slow. Or rather buggy. Or something to that effect
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15:02:17  <Bjarni> oh the NAND thing
15:02:22  <Bjarni> I completely forgot
15:02:48  <Bjarni> and... I don't intend to try to solve it. I don't think it's a good idea
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16:31:03  <Trippledence_> MERR
16:31:30  <Frostregen> OwenS: is the server still the same build as yesterday?
16:32:12  <OwenS> I had to rebuild it since I had compatibility issues
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16:32:35  <Frostregen> new patch for miniin?
16:33:31  <OwenS> Nope, just a standard source tarball
16:33:59  <OwenS> http://res1.humgun.com/ttdnand/serverin.tar.bz2
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16:57:22  <Wolf01> yo
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17:15:35  <Wolf01> OwenS, any improvement on nand patch?
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17:24:44  <OwenS> Not yet
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18:24:21  <Wolf01> bbl
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18:24:30  <black_Nightmare> just curious anyhow but whats a nice miniIN and nightly server?
18:24:34  <MeusH> evening
18:26:25  <black_Nightmare> (used to try one miniIN once with interesting airports but can't recall name now)
18:33:17  <black_Nightmare> hey meush
18:36:51  <MeusH> hey
18:36:56  <MeusH> any news in OpenTTD world?
18:37:04  <MeusH> something new in developement?
18:40:25  <peter1138> i've got unlimited engines hidden away somewhere
18:41:27  <MeusH> that's unbelievable
18:43:07  <peter1138> what, that i'd do it, or that i'd do it and hide it away?
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18:43:58  <MeusH> both
18:44:35  <peter1138> needs some ... special saveload handling
18:44:47  <peter1138> cos the vehicle stats becomes variable
18:53:16  <MeusH> that sounds good
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19:03:13  <SpComb> ping
19:03:24  <stavrosg> er... pong?
19:03:43  <SpComb> thanks
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19:37:23  <UnderBuilder> hi :)
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19:43:22  <UnderBuilder> sh*t ttdpatch is near of getting stable internet play
19:44:49  <peter1138> so?
19:45:06  <Lord_damnit> aaah, you're here for once, peter1138!!!
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19:46:13  <UnderBuilder> so ottd will have competence with ttdpatch
19:47:06  <peter1138> have what?
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19:47:56  <peter1138> Lord_damnit: yes, but if you're going to point me to a problem, make sure it actually states the problem rather than refering to a private message sent to someone else
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19:54:53  <Lord_damnit> hmmm, my irc client seems to have some pm problems. i'll just write in public.
19:55:42  <Lord_damnit> so, peter1138, in case you didn't receive what i just wrote (i guess you didn't).
19:56:48  <Lord_damnit> i need to know the possible values/meanings of v->u.air.pos and (formerly) v->u.air.unk0
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20:04:20  <peter1138> heh
20:06:37  <SpComb> if (time() % 2) struct->foo = the_value_we_have_to_store; else struct->asdf = the_value_we_have_to_store;
20:10:34  <CIA-5> miham * r5601 /trunk/lang/ (german.txt slovak.txt):
20:10:34  <CIA-5> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-24 22:10:14
20:10:34  <CIA-5> german - 1 changed by Neonox (1)
20:10:34  <CIA-5> slovak - 10 changed by lengyel (10)
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20:31:37  <Frostregen> OwenS: hmm, no i had some time, but server is offline
20:31:55  <Frostregen> *now
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21:34:20  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
21:34:20  <Sacro> !logs
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