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00:00:27 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-250-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 00:01:45 <Bjarni> <ln-> Bjarni: btw, sterling is quite an old airline, isn't it? what is its reputation in general? <-- it looks like WW2 recordings to me 00:02:11 <ln-> for me too, the question was not related to your link. :) 00:02:48 <Bjarni> oh, you mean the passenger airline 00:02:50 <Bjarni> hmm 00:03:04 <Bjarni> good question 00:04:06 <Bjarni> I never actually tried them 00:04:59 <Bjarni> I tried Maersk Air once and they made a somewhat hard landing (not sure if it was just bad luck). SAS, which is ok and Icelandair, who tend to have good pilots 00:05:17 <Bjarni> as for the service in the plane, it have gone downhill for all airlines lately :( 00:05:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> i only flew twice in my life... 00:06:21 <ln-> 2 > 0 00:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> once to portugal, and once to eastern USA (pre 9/11) 00:06:55 <Bjarni> btw if you go flying try to take a plastic bottle full of air and open it in 10 km height. Close it as airtight as you can and you will really see what air pressure means as the plane goes downwards 00:07:02 <jez> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5264441268727132274&sourceid=zeitgeist 00:07:04 <Bjarni> in the end, there will not be much bottle left 00:07:05 <jez> what is the HELL 00:07:06 <jez> is that 00:07:07 <ln-> i flew on sterling this summer, helsinki-bologna, and i was surprised that the whole crew, including the pilots, were finns. 00:08:06 <Bjarni> that would be ok, right? 00:08:16 <Bjarni> I mean, they know how to speak to each other ;) 00:08:35 *** Guest56 [Gono@N877P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 00:08:56 <ln-> that was one of the last sterling flights from finland. 00:09:29 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 00:09:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> is that like "the last flight from stalingrad"? :p 00:09:55 <Bjarni> I just remembered an incident. A plane from India had a security issue. The captain and the other guy got in a physical fight in the cockpit so the other crew had to take them apart and while that happened, the plane was flown on autopilot only and nobody watched if it did the right stuff 00:10:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> (my grandfather was in one of those) 00:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> because he hurt his leg 00:14:12 <jez> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2210008901821453412&sourceid=zeitgeist 00:14:13 <jez> omfg 00:14:16 <jez> a baby crawling... 00:14:17 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N893P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:29 <ln-> "you wouldn't have had much fun in stalingrad?" (monty python) 00:16:55 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 00:17:04 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:17:45 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:17:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: i can't remember that line... 00:18:01 <CIA-2> belugas * r6506 /branches/newgrf_lab/: -Delete branch: NewCurrencies is already in trunk, newcargos will be reworked lather. 00:18:27 <Bjarni> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3922849255139422394 <-- what, he have to roll 20 to break out of his cage? 00:19:33 <ln-> quiz question: to which country does the top-level domain .dd belong to? 00:21:06 <Bjarni> DDR? 00:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is not a country. 00:21:22 <Bjarni> if it really is a country 00:21:29 <Bjarni> actually I don't think so 00:21:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> not since 3. october 1990 00:21:41 <Bjarni> I don't think .dd is a country code 00:21:48 <Jonazz> hmm 00:21:52 <Bjarni> it's a trick question 00:21:57 <Jonazz> do you need to DL more than Openttd to host a server? 00:22:12 <ln-> DDR is correct. 00:22:24 <Jonazz> like a server client ? 00:22:25 <Bjarni> told you 00:22:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> you need the data files from the original game 00:22:33 <ln-> well yes, it doesn't quite exist anymore, but if i had asked in the past tense, it would have been too easy to guess. 00:22:51 <Jonazz> I have them. game is working and all. Just my m8 cudnt find my server nor I his 00:22:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> even for dedicated server 00:23:09 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> that is not a country. <-- next you will tell me that BRD is not a country either 00:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> you need to open the ports in the firewall 00:23:22 <ln-> but at least one source claims .dd was never used. 00:23:27 <Jonazz> ok 00:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> !openttd ports 00:23:45 <Jonazz> !openttd ports 00:23:47 <Jonazz> mhm 00:23:48 <Jonazz> hmm 00:23:48 <Jonazz> :P 00:23:52 <Jonazz> wasnt a command 00:23:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, that once used to work 00:24:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> !openttd port 00:24:02 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause3: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 00:24:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: was there internet back then? 00:24:42 <Bjarni> !ports 00:24:43 <Jonazz> ok thanks 00:25:00 <Bjarni> openttd port 00:25:09 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: surely internet existed, but i doubt it existed in DDR.. 00:25:29 <Bjarni> why do I always forget that one... I mean I can remember that it's possible to get the bot to tell, but how.... 00:25:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> i just did it... you can't look back 2 lines? :) 00:26:31 *** jez [monkert@client-82-2-137-179.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 00:26:35 <Bjarni> no 00:26:41 <Bjarni> I can only read the last line 00:26:48 <Bjarni> it's IRC 00:26:54 <Bjarni> you all got it right that, right? 00:27:11 <Bjarni> stay online or miss a whole lot of stuff 00:27:25 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 00:27:50 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause3: actually I commented on you finding it and I forgot how to write it... 00:27:52 <ln-> what's your (anyone's) opinion about the train driving mode of Locomotion? 00:28:07 <Bjarni> well 00:28:19 <Bjarni> I will use my great power not to answer that one 00:28:42 <Bjarni> I will not state my opinion on something I learned existed from the question :) 00:30:16 <ln-> ok, so in locomotion there's a hidden feature which enables one to drive the train. adjusting speed and breaks. 00:30:47 <ln-> it also becomes the player's responsibility to look at the signals or the end of the track. 00:30:53 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: was there internet back then? <-- Actually Germany was very much ahead in computer development. In the 30s, officially nobody had any computers, yet we got historical recordings from Germany where large groups walks around saying "seg fault. seg fault" 00:30:56 * Bjarni hides 00:31:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> ;p 00:31:19 <Bjarni> ln-: cool 00:32:21 <Bjarni> actually you can see that they had an early version since it seg faulted that often :P 00:32:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> Es gab nie eine .dd-Domain, denn "Mikröelektrönik ist kopitolistsches Spielzoisch!" 00:32:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> Sie war nur damals der DDR zugewiesen, falls diese sich entschließen sollte, ein NIC einzurichten. Ähnlich wie heute bei der Antarktis mit .aq. ;-) 00:33:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> (read that with an ironic touch ;)) 00:33:37 <Bjarni> :) 00:34:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> (especially the pseudo-saxon dialect :p) 00:34:41 <Bjarni> aq really is Antarctica.... the penguins got their own domain 00:35:01 <ln-> i've understood the procedures for entering DDR were somewhat... more complex than simply showing your passport and entering the country. 00:35:30 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:39:12 <ln-> something like in today's USA. 00:39:15 <CIA-2> belugas * r6507 /branches/newhouses/: 00:39:15 <CIA-2> -Create Branch: This is a collective effort to bring in the newhouses feature of newgrf. 00:39:15 <CIA-2> It is based on Maedhros's code. 00:39:15 <CIA-2> Among noticeable features, the map array will be expanded, and not only for houses. 00:39:15 <CIA-2> The branch is open for all devs to fix, update, synch etc... 00:42:14 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Einen Tiefpunkt in der Entwicklung der DDR-eigenen Forschung markierte 1974 die Absetzung des fähigen Professors Werner Hartmann als Leiter der Arbeitsstelle für Molekularelektronik Dresden (AMD)" :p 00:43:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> (30 years later "AMD" got back to Dresden :p) 00:45:20 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 00:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> <ln-> i've understood the procedures for entering DDR were somewhat... more complex than simply showing your passport and entering the country. <- entering was not really the problem... exiting was 00:47:19 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by glx|away))] 00:47:27 *** glx|away is now known as glx 00:47:41 <ln-> but for foreigners.. 00:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i cannot speak for foreigners... 00:48:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was citizen of the DDR until 3. oct 1990 00:50:07 <ln-> my mother spent some time in DDR in the end of 70's, and she said getting in involved standing in a row beside a wall and many questions being asked. 00:50:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> that was not even a week after my 9th birthday 00:51:45 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:52:08 <ln-> should OpenTTD support suddenly splitting the map into a federal republic and a democratic republic, and then merging these two back together later in the game? 00:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> that story is a little more complicated than that 00:53:50 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: how did the end of DDR change the life of a 9-year-old? 00:54:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> because first you have to dress as poles and ambush a radio station 00:54:15 *** publunch [~publunch@87.112.95.14.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:55:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: that is funny, because on that day, i asked my brother: "do you feel any different now?" ... 00:55:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> because i didn't 00:56:11 <ln-> do you feel any different *now*? 00:56:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> and what actually changed was, that all those strict youth organisation disappeared 00:56:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> ("FDJ" and all things attached) 00:57:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> let's say it like this: i cannot imagine a life in the old system... 01:04:21 <ln-> was there any resistance against merging with the west? 01:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> the system was too strict and organized, so i could never have the life i am having right now 01:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... there were certainly different opinions about how it should be done, but i don't know of any actual resistance 01:07:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> and the way it was done was definitely not the best possible way... 01:08:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> but i was 9, i don't know much about the politics involved 01:08:45 <ln-> do you recognize this man: http://www.ylioppilaslehti.fi/2001/010119/nukkumatti.jpg 01:14:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> sure 01:14:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> everybody knows the Sandmännchen 01:15:00 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 01:15:20 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 01:15:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> i watched that each evening at 18:50 01:17:12 <Gonozal_VIII> kinder, liebe kinder, es hat mir spaß gemacht 01:17:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> nun geht ins bett und schlaft recht schön 01:18:00 <Gonozal_VIII> dann will auch ich zur ruhe gehn 01:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> eh auch ich zur ruhe geh (glaube ich) 01:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> (ist ne weile her) 01:18:37 <Gonozal_VIII> ka.. aber so ähnlich jedenfalls 01:18:38 <ln-> in finland he didn't say anything, he just arrived with some vehicle in the begin of a children's programme, and left at the end. 01:18:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that's the text of the song that is playing 01:20:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> and it was always an attraction, with what vehicle he was coming this time... helicopter, plane, rocket (on some other planet), or more daily things, like a trabbi, or bike ;) 01:20:56 <ln-> was he a plotless person originally? at least here there was no plot besides the altering method of transportation. 01:21:22 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:22:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... there was not really a plot... 01:22:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i think there was only the song.. but i don't remember exactly 01:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> he arrived somewhere, where kids were (a house, or often some fairy tale scene) 01:22:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> then they switched on the TV 01:22:59 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 01:23:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> and watched the "Abendgruß" (an actual story) 01:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> and then he threw the "sleeping sand" 01:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> and went away 01:24:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> so it was basically a "framework" around that real story 01:25:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84791.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:24 <ln-> ok, similar to the finnish way of using him then.. 01:25:44 <ln-> was the real story related to the context where he arrived in? 01:25:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> no 01:25:58 <ln-> here neither 01:28:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> there were some standard stories, that were rotating based on the day of week (Fuchs & Elster, Pittiplatsch, Frau Puppendoktor Pille mit der großen runden Brille...) 01:29:13 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 01:29:13 <DaleStan> !logs 01:29:22 <Gonozal_VIII> *lol* 01:31:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> and it was a thousand times better and more educating than those imperialistic "teletubbies" are :p 01:32:19 <Gonozal_VIII> igiiitt 01:32:35 <ln-> or communistic smurfs 01:33:05 <Gonozal_VIII> smurfs are better than teletubbies 01:33:22 <ln-> the turtles are better than pokémon. 01:33:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> btw. "imperialistic" was a word to describe basically everything that came from the west ;) 01:33:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i do not remember seeing smurfs on east german TV ever... 01:34:27 <ln-> was there anything special about two o'clock? ... something that would explain why a wall clock manufactured in DDR had a red heart instead of then number '2'? 01:34:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... i have no idea 01:35:27 <ln-> dunno how common that was, we just happen to have such a clock at home, still operational. 01:39:44 <ln-> is/was there a russian minority in the east? 01:41:26 <ln-> i remember seeing some cyrillic graffitis somewhere near wittenberg. 01:42:02 <cantares> Und beten sie das ihr sohn nicht den Weg der Angst wählt... o.o 01:42:19 <Gonozal_VIII> ? 01:45:13 <cantares> filmzitat 01:45:29 <Gonozal_VIII> aus welchem? 01:45:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> cantares: "daß"/"dass" 01:46:12 <cantares> das/daß/dass is mir doch egal o.o 01:46:22 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 01:46:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> aber mir nicht ;) 01:46:26 <ln-> es kann nicht egal sein 01:46:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> egal ist der käse... er stinkt von allen seiten 01:46:53 <cantares> solange das geschriebene verstanden wird 01:46:53 <glx> cantares: use an utf8 client please :) 01:47:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> always those guys with ancient mirc versions... 01:48:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> how can you even survive in the net with mirc < 6.17? 01:48:21 <Gonozal_VIII> <--6.17 01:48:22 <cantares> why should i update something that works ? o.o 01:48:31 <glx> I don't understand german but I can detect when wrong chars are displayed 01:48:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> because it DOES NOT work (with utf-8) 01:48:59 <ln-> old mIRCs have security problems, too. 01:49:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> within 2 days after release of 6.17, the standard encoding in all channels i am in changed to utf-8 01:49:41 <cantares> it doesn't interrest me that it doesn't work with utf-8 mostly i don't use any special characters.. 01:50:18 <glx> you do when you type some german chars 01:50:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> because "mirc does not support it" was basically the only reason to reject it 01:50:21 <ln-> i saw cantares's characters correctly, and i don't even know what charset he's using. 01:50:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, most "sane" clients detect, if the encoding is utf-8 or not 01:51:00 <cantares> glx: that was only in case of pedantic writing correction... 01:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> (where "or not" is usually windows-1252 or iso-something, which are pretty similar anyway) 01:52:23 <cantares> i think it is iso-????-15 01:53:50 <cantares> i usually don't use anything that goes over the ASCII... so i am UTF-8 compatible.. 01:54:08 *** FrankBA_ [~fbas@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> ä/ö/ü do go over ASCII 01:54:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> so you are not 01:55:02 <cantares> I DONT USE ä/ö/ü USUALLY ... do i speak SPAIN ? 01:55:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> but you did use ß above 01:55:25 <glx> it's "spanich" not "spain" :) 01:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's "spanish" even ;) 01:55:55 <glx> :P 01:56:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> what you meant is "spinach" ;) 01:56:10 <ln-> what's wrong with the city of Annecy, France? 01:56:11 <cantares> In cause of YOUR pedantic correction of "dass"/"da(ss)" ... 01:56:16 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw5-0-0-cust493.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 01:56:22 <glx> ln-: dunno 01:56:51 <ln-> how can such a small city be so full of cars that getting out of there took two hours? 01:57:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> * ist ja nu kein grund, gleich ausfallend zu werden... * 01:57:39 <cantares> ist auch kein grund deswegen eine grundlegende utf-8 oder nicht utf-8 diskussion anzufangen... 01:58:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> das war ja auch nicht ich... 01:58:06 <cantares> ich nutz doch nicht utf-8 nur weil alle utf8 nutzen.. ich kann mit fue rmich nicht lesbaren utf-8 schnipseln leben 01:58:43 <cantares> nicht angefangen aber mitgewirkt o.o 01:59:11 <glx> good night 01:59:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> ja, weil ich die "deine umlaute sind kaputt" diskussion schon viel zu oft mitgemacht habe 01:59:55 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:00:04 <cantares> meine umlaute sind nicht kaputt ich nutze sie normalerweise garnicht... 02:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> und die antwort ist in 98% aller fälle: update dein total veraltetes mirc 02:01:50 <Gonozal_VIII> thou shalt have no other chars before utf-8 02:02:57 <Belugas_Gone> goodnight glx... sorry you've gone so fast :( 02:03:34 <cantares> ich bin dagegen alles so zu erweitern das es fuer alles passt.. ich find man sollte schauen mit ascii klarzukommen... 02:04:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> dann benutz keinen computer, man sollte schauen, ohne elektrizität auszukommen 02:04:26 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ erinnert mich an meine oma, als es hieß, sich ne waschmaschine zuzulegen.. handwäsche geht doch genauso gut 02:04:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> (so ein hirnverbranntes argument... also ehrlich) 02:05:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: so ähnliche stories kenne ich auch... allerdings über meine (mir unbekannte) uroma 02:06:01 <cantares> eddi: was hat computer oder nicht computer mit kommunikationsformaten fuer computer zu tun ? 02:06:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> es ist das selbe argument... "ging früher auch so... wieso was neues und besseres benutzen?" 02:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> (zumal ich häufig nicht nur umlaute, sondern auch griechische und mathematische symbole benutze) 02:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> außerdem war ich es leid, wenn die bulgaren losplapperten, immer nur "iaaaaeeiiooiouo" (mit diversen akzenten) zu sehen 02:09:46 *** FrankBA_ [debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:10:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> anstatt kyrillische symbole 02:10:18 <cantares> das ist so wie grosse bunte knoeppe in allen programmen die man so findet... man braucht sie nicht es nimmt nur bildschirmplatz und speicherplatz weg... 02:10:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> das ist eben einfach nur falsch 02:10:43 <ln-> cantares: DU KONNTE AUCH NUR GROSSE LETTERS BENUTZEN, WEIL DIE ERSTEN PRINTERS HABE NUR DIE GEKANNT. 02:11:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: the first printer i know could only do numbers, or if you programmed really good, + and * 02:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> cantares: ein gut platzierter "tu es" knopf ist um meilen besser als ein, erst nach 2 wochen verständliches, kommandozeilen-tool mit 24 millionen parametern 02:14:10 <Gonozal_VIII> bitte im metrischen system bleiben, danke ;-) 02:14:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> äh... wie du meinst ;) 02:14:56 <cantares> eddi: ein gut programmiertes kommandozeilen-tool mit guten parametern ist um _kilometer_ besser als ein programm mit 24 millionen symbolen, knoeppen und dropdown menues... 02:15:40 <CIA-2> belugas * r6508 /branches/XTDwidget/ (24 files): 02:15:40 <CIA-2> [XTDwidget] -CodeChange : Scheme name of the widget accessors is changed. 02:15:40 <CIA-2> New format specifies "Window" keyword when Window *w parameter is involved. 02:15:40 <CIA-2> This makes it easier to know what are the parameters of the function 02:15:44 <Gonozal_VIII> ich mag knöpfchen :-) 02:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> naja, man kann natürlich alles ad absurdum treiben... aber für manche sachen braucht man einfach bilder... 02:16:16 <cantares> eddi: Das argument kannst also knicken.. man kann alles scheisse programmieren.. oder vernuenftig... aber ein gut platzierter knopf.. muss keine 24 bit farben haben.. und auch nicht 50 x 50 pixel gross sein... 02:19:00 <cantares> mich kotzt dieser trend an das alles bunt mit bilder und huebsch huebsch vielen farben sein muss... alles nur noch software fuer vollidioten... 02:19:32 <cantares> uii wir haben mehr rechenleistung.. wir verbraten sie mit nutzloser sch.... .. 02:19:54 <cantares> uiii 500GB festplatten.. uii packen wir voll mit unnoetig aufgeblaehter sch... software... 02:21:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> das ist aber alles kein argument gegen utf-8 02:21:48 <cantares> kein besonders gutes... :p 02:22:22 <cantares> ich hab auch nicht viel gegen utf-8 mehr gegen die leute die rumterzen updaten zu muessen... 02:22:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> und meine 500GB sind wohl zu 90% mit filmen voll ;) 02:23:19 <cantares> ich hol mirn bier.. 02:23:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> allerdings ein großteil MPEG-2 fernsehmitschnitte, die man mal umkodieren sollte... 02:24:15 <ln-> meine damen und herren, in wenigen minuten treffen wir in schlafe ein. 02:24:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> "die bahnsteige befinden sich auf der rechten seite" ?!? :) 02:24:51 <Gonozal_VIII> die türen schließen selbstständig 02:25:03 <ln-> vorsicht bei der abfahrt. 02:25:44 *** ThePizzaKing_ [~thepizzak@c211-28-161-159.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:25:58 <ln-> die bahnsteige -dinge ist etwas neues.. ich erinnere mich nicht daß ich es in 1998 gehören hätte. 02:26:26 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ThePizzaKing_))] 02:26:28 <Gonozal_VIII> hab ich auch noch nie gehört 02:26:34 *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing 02:26:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> das ham sie mitunter in IC und ICE zügen angesagt 02:27:21 <cantares> die tueren schließen selbsttätig hoert man haeufig 02:27:22 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2CE7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:28:00 <Gonozal_VIII> weils immer welche gibt, die dran rumzerrn oder blöd rauswinken bei der abfahrt *gg* 02:28:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> hach das waren noch zeiten, als wir (vor der wende) noch auf abfahrende züge aufspringen konnten 02:28:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> weil wir mal wieder zu spät losgekommen sind 02:29:22 <Gonozal_VIII> wir ham noch mechanische türen teilweise 02:29:25 <cantares> gibbt inzwischen bestimmt gesetze gegen die das verbieten 02:29:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> damals wurden die selbstschließenden türen gerade eingeführt, aber noch nicht in allen wagen 02:30:20 <CIA-2> belugas * r6509 /branches/XTDwidget/ (19 files): [XTDwidget] -CodeChange: Finishing convertion of all click_states to widget wrappers (Rubidium) 02:31:36 <Gonozal_VIII> haben teilweise seltsam zusammengestellte züge, uraltwaggons mit brandneuen loks und sowas 02:33:40 <cantares> ich will in die klapse o.o 02:33:49 <cantares> da muessen lustige leute rumrennen 02:34:01 <Gonozal_VIII> kann doch nicht so schwer sein, da reinzukommen 02:34:20 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2E069.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:34:45 <cantares> was meinst wieviele echte wiedergeborene jesusse da schon drinhaengen... 02:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> du schaust zu viel fern... 02:35:24 <Gonozal_VIII> da ich weder an jesus noch an wiedergeburt glaube... 0?^^ 02:35:52 <cantares> genau :) 02:38:15 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3FC4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:38:42 <CIA-2> belugas * r6510 /branches/XTDwidget/window.h: [XTDwidget] -CodeChange: Removing click_state from accessors and replacing them by according widget status bit (Rubidium) 02:38:46 <Gonozal_VIII> wobei jesus.. warum nicht... rennt einer rum, macht paar tricks, die für die damaligen leute nur durch gotteswerk erklärt werden können, die geschichte wird rumerzählt und aufgebauscht und schon hamma nen fertigen jesus da 02:39:37 <cantares> christentum ist eh die reinste verarsche 02:41:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> die frage ist ja nicht, ist christentum verarsche, sondern was ist denn _nicht_ verarsche? 02:42:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> und zu der frage nach gott sage ich immer: ich kann mir sehr gut vorstellen, daß jemand root-rechte am "universe simulator" hat 02:42:21 <cantares> Das filmzitat von vorhin war uebrigens aus Donnie Darko... 02:42:43 <cantares> Let's hack the universe-simulator! o.o 02:44:02 <cantares> da muss ich an das ulkige "hackers" (film) equipment denken... 02:44:48 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D1D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 02:44:55 <Gonozal_VIII> religion ist ne gute sache, wenn sies schafft, die menschen besser miteinander auskommen zu lassen und so das leben für alle besser zu machen... 02:47:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> wie man leicht sieht ... [rhetorische pause, um die sehr ironische einleitung setzen zu lassen] ... schafft sie das allerhöhstens lokal mit kleineren gruppen, global wird das immer ne katastrophe 02:47:29 <Gonozal_VIII> das is ja das problem 02:47:42 <cantares> Globalisierung ist das problem 02:47:56 <cantares> du kannst keine loesungen finden die auch 6 milliarden menschen passen 02:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> globalisierung ist kein problem, sondern ein fakt 02:48:33 <cantares> keine die ein 6 millionen passen... keine die auf 600.000 passen.. keine die auf 6000 passen.. vllt welche bei 600.. aber eher bei 60 leuten.. da kannte sachen finden die passen 02:48:34 <Gonozal_VIII> muss nicht für alle passen, müsst nur jeder den andren so akzeptiern wie er is 02:49:04 <cantares> Gonozal_VIII: tut doch niemand.. oder akzeptierst du auch leute die dich beleidigen und angreifen und beklauen? 02:50:14 <Gonozal_VIII> sag ja jeder müssts 02:50:26 <cantares> funktioniert nicht.. 02:50:34 <Gonozal_VIII> leider 02:50:37 <cantares> ist nicht umsetzbar.. 02:51:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> alle gesellschaftlichen ansätze scheitern immer am selben problem 02:51:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> dem menschen an sich 02:51:25 <cantares> Globalisierung funktioniert nicht.. eine loesung die in sagen wir sibirien klappt funktioniert nicht in californien... man muss es anpassen.. 02:51:32 <cantares> leute muessen ungleich leben.. ungleich handeln.. 02:51:42 <cantares> gleichmacherei fuehrt schlussendlich zum niedergang... 02:52:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> den zusammenhang zwischen globalisierung und gleichmacherei seh ich gerade nicht 02:53:09 <Gonozal_VIII> seh auch in der globalisierung kein so großes problem in dem zusammenhang, solche probleme gabs schon immer, auch lokal 02:53:20 <cantares> naja als beispiel.. europäische waehrungsunion.. 02:53:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> das ust was gutes... und egal, was die ganzen polulisten immer verzapfen, ein erfolg 02:54:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> und es geht noch lange nicht weit genug 02:54:33 <cantares> Das was niedergeht ist die kultur der einzelnen laender/landstriche 02:54:50 <cantares> naja ansich schon eine illusion das die weltreligionen davon etwas uebrig gelassen haetten... 02:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> der zusammenhang zwischen dem, was auf den papierfetzen steht, und der lokalen kultur ist jetzt auch irgendwie untergegangen 02:56:40 <cantares> hm wenn du wirklich intresse daran hast ließ nach.. ich geh jetzt gleich spazieren... 02:56:50 <cantares> also 02:56:51 <cantares> jain 02:56:54 <cantares> nicht nachlesen 02:57:01 <cantares> was ist denn deine kultur? 02:57:06 <cantares> das ist die intressante frage 02:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> na jedenfalls nicht, ob auf den total unwichtigen und unpersönlichen fetzen jetzt "Mark", "Deutsche Mark" oder "Euro" draufsteht 02:58:41 <cantares> die frage war nicht was deine kultur _nicht_ ist 02:58:44 <CIA-2> belugas * r6511 /branches/XTDwidget/ (11 files in 2 dirs): [XTDwidget] -Synch with trunk r6501:r6510 02:58:48 <cantares> sondern was sie ist... 02:59:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> meine kultur ist zum beispiel korrekte rechtschreibung und grammmatik (minus großschreibung) 02:59:51 <cantares> das waere deine ausdrucksart.. 02:59:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> -m 03:00:10 <cantares> falls dich das thema wirklich irgendwie intressiert... finde herraus was deine kultur ist... 03:00:18 <cantares> ansonsten..-. 03:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> oder das sandmännchen 03:00:31 <cantares> isses mir eh egal.. 03:00:34 <cantares> bin mal bissl weg 03:01:24 <Gonozal_VIII> bin mal wieder webcomics lesen.. kultur pur :-) 03:02:23 <Belugas_Gone> bed time for me 03:02:36 * Belugas_Gone have a heachache :( 03:02:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it is 5AM ;) 03:02:48 <Belugas_Gone> 23:05pm ;) 03:03:23 <Belugas_Gone> night guys, however you say in german :D 03:03:24 <Gonozal_VIII> 23 is always pm^^ where are you? 03:03:41 <Belugas_Gone> canada, quebec, and... in my bed 03:03:47 <Gonozal_VIII> ah 03:03:54 <Gonozal_VIII> good night 03:03:57 <Belugas_Gone> *click* 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11:52:52 <kbrooks> peter1138, cool 11:53:13 <Sacro> peter1138: news hounds! 11:53:30 <peter1138> i need another week off work 11:54:24 <peter1138> just to fiddle with ttd stuff :D 12:28:21 *** dougp [~dougp@c58-107-196-244.thoms2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34:15 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:35:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-200-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41:16 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:43:14 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:45:19 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:55:12 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: You have the urge to do some accounting...] 12:56:26 <Born_Acorn> Newest article! http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Cargos 12:57:41 <peter1138> what horrible colours 12:57:57 <peter1138> and missing toyland 12:59:31 *** ost2life [~main@cpc1-port1-0-0-cust71.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:59:32 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:17 *** ost2life [~main@cpc1-port1-0-0-cust71.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 13:03:02 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, nobody wants to document Toyland. :p 13:03:21 <peter1138> therefore, you must 13:03:43 <Born_Acorn> nevar! 13:08:06 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:08:24 *** dariius [~dariius@82.138.86.21] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:43 *** dariius [~dariius@82.138.86.21] has joined #openttd 13:12:05 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: http://iThought.dk/ ] 13:19:01 <Belugas> good work, Born_Acorn. But... I have to agree with peter1138... Toyland has some (very few, agreed) fans... 13:19:11 <Belugas> come on... a little good will ;) 13:19:29 <SpComb> kill toyland! Burn it down! 13:23:07 <Belugas> heheh 13:23:41 <tokai> whats wrong with toyland? :) 13:23:43 <Belugas> this might indicate that Toyland has less a fan 13:25:16 <Belugas> personnaly, i find it too bright. Same reason i don't play sub arctic 13:25:50 <Born_Acorn> Toyland is the least liked climate of OpenTTD due to its bright and jarring colours, as well as it's overall cheesyness and cliches. All factories and goods are replaced with surreal ones, such as "Toffe Mines" or a "Battery Farm". Toys replace valuables. 13:26:06 <Born_Acorn> (From t'wiki) 13:27:34 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: Document toyland as "Mine eyes! They burn! They buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!" 13:28:11 <Born_Acorn> I'd document Toyland, but mine eyes doth blindeth me. 13:28:46 <Kjetil> hhHAHA 13:29:14 <Belugas> I remember a grf (really nice one) that turns temperate to night-temperate. It has a smoothung effect on toyland, IIRC 13:29:23 <Belugas> i loved that grf :) 13:30:49 <tokai> Toyland: If you ever wanted to experience an epileptic attack... ;) 13:39:22 <peter1138> the toyland -> mars conversion grf should be made compulsory 13:40:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@149.254.200.216] has joined #openttd 13:46:03 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:46:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 13:56:53 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:56:55 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:58:37 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw5-0-0-cust493.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:02:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@149.254.200.216] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 14:28:27 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:29:02 <Torm> question: in a network game of openttd, can the game be saved and come back to later? 14:29:47 <Torm> ie: can all players come back and continue where they left off later on down the track? 14:30:07 <peter1138> yes 14:30:13 *** canta__ [cyrus@p50875733.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:15 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, news hounds! 14:30:23 <Born_Acorn> Belugas, yay newhouses branch! 14:30:24 <peter1138> but with one caveat, company passwords are lost. 14:31:47 <Torm> kk thanks :) 14:33:39 <Belugas> Born_Acorn : you know what is fun with a branch? Everyone can see what happens in it, how far it's going, when it's ready ;) 14:34:01 <Born_Acorn> I know, thats the best part! 14:34:32 <Torm> peter1138: how you mean passwords are lost? (soz, never played a network game) 14:34:40 <Torm> actually, i might go read the wiki :) 14:34:47 <peter1138> well, they aren't saved 14:37:03 *** cantares [cyrus@p50875313.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:03 *** canta__ is now known as cantares 14:39:37 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.5/2006091003]] 14:50:17 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 14:52:58 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-214-221.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 14:54:51 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:07:48 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:54 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]] 15:37:23 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-212-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! 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16:23:05 <eleusis> it's annoying how it starts up and you just hear the *clang clang clang* of a railway crossing 16:23:09 <eleusis> :( 16:23:30 <Bjarni> rename data/opntitle.dat to something else 16:23:37 <bananafly> Although i think i need to upgrade :) 16:23:40 <Bjarni> then you will get the same screen, but the map will be all water 16:23:44 <bananafly> I'll try that and see if it works 16:23:44 <eleusis> aha 16:24:32 <eleusis> Bjarni: works :) 16:24:44 <eleusis> hm 16:24:47 <Bjarni> I know ;) 16:24:55 <eleusis> is there a way to kick someone off your company? 16:25:27 <eleusis> i was in a multiplayer game about an hour ago, and some loser joined the most profitable company (wasn't password protected) and started lowering all the land to sea level 16:25:36 <eleusis> the other player in the company couldn't get rid of him 16:25:40 <Bjarni> you removed the savegame to show, so it generates an empty map to to at least have something to show 16:27:14 <bananafly> by the way is there a precompiled development version out there? 16:27:33 <eleusis> development version? 16:27:41 <Bjarni> there is the nightly build 16:27:46 <Bjarni> it's compiled once a day 16:27:59 <Bjarni> http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php 16:28:01 <bananafly> eleusis: http://www.openttd.org/screens.php 16:28:08 <eleusis> once a night ;) 16:28:09 <bananafly> top of the page, nice screenies :) 16:28:10 <Bjarni> it is as is, so it might be buggy 16:28:14 <bananafly> i know 16:28:20 <Bjarni> and sometimes it even fails to show up (fails to compile) 16:28:25 <bananafly> im running a lot of nightlies 16:28:33 <Bjarni> also it may break your savegames 16:28:34 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:28:55 <eleusis> just build from svn 16:29:00 <bananafly> backups solve that 16:29:07 <TrueLight> Attention: 3 oktober 2006 most openttd.org network services will be down for 2 or 3 ours, excluding translator, nightly, wiki, bugs and docs 16:29:26 <bananafly> eleusis: nah, takes time 16:29:31 <TrueLight> MasterServer, www and SVN explicit will be down at that moment 16:29:34 <bananafly> plus i dont have a good compiler 16:29:38 <TrueLight> DNS should continue to work 16:29:47 <TrueLight> End of attention ;) 16:29:59 <eleusis> heh, good compiler? tried gcc? :P 16:30:02 <TrueLight> (this message will self repeat at 2 okt 2006 ;)) 16:30:02 * bananafly stops paying attention 16:30:05 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:30:30 <bananafly> eleusis: yea, but i have to add libs and stuff, and gcc is buggy in winodws 16:30:44 <eleusis> o_O 16:30:47 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 16:31:06 <eleusis> mingw should do it, i think.. 16:31:12 <eleusis> or you can try cross-compiling.. 16:31:14 <bananafly> mingw is buggy 16:31:18 <bananafly> never got it to work 16:31:25 <bananafly> I have Dev-C++ though 16:31:27 <eleusis> all of which is less fun than playing openttd :P 16:31:30 <bananafly> and it works :) 16:31:57 <eleusis> whoa 16:32:07 <eleusis> what's that big railway station? http://www.openttd.org/screens.php?image=images/screens/Development/japan_national_railway_3_aug_1984 16:32:34 <bananafly> cool :O 16:33:13 *** Bjarni changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.4.8 | 08:30 UTC 3 oktober 2006, all openttd.org servers will be down for 2-3 hours, excluding wiki, translator, docs and nightly | Website: *.openttd.org (Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs, Bug-reports: bugs) 16:33:22 <eleusis> haha 16:33:27 <eleusis> this one's awesome: http://www.openttd.org/screens.php?image=images/screens/Development/suntfingford 16:33:39 <eleusis> industrial area :D 16:34:11 <peter1138> i spy some more goodies coming 16:34:41 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:51 *** smeding_ [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:56 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:20 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:00 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6513 /trunk/ (15 files): 16:48:00 <CIA-2> -Codechange: unified the code to draw depot windows 16:48:00 <CIA-2> This change is intended to make it easier to make depot behaviour consistent 16:48:00 <CIA-2> and faster to code when adding more features in the future 16:48:00 <CIA-2> The user interface should hopefully not be affected by this 16:49:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:58:53 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-214-221.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 17:05:41 <peter1138> whew 17:05:44 <peter1138> sweaty feet :/ 17:07:01 <hylje> interesting 17:07:03 <hylje> eww 17:07:12 <peter1138> $ xgamma -gamma 1 17:07:13 <peter1138> Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0". 17:07:14 <peter1138> o_O 17:10:10 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: +++ OK ATH OK] 17:10:28 <eleusis> :| 17:35:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:36:20 <Wolf01> hi 17:38:10 *** bananafly [~NEDM@81-236-246-254-no28.tbcn.telia.com] has left #openttd [] 17:39:44 <Born_Acorn> Maedhros, two questions, when did you get commit access, and why didn't you secretly commit diagonal crossings when nobody was looking? :p 17:40:09 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:41:28 <Belugas> Maedhros is only allowed to commit in newhouses branch. 17:42:03 <Belugas> but...who knows what the futur has in reserve for him ;) 17:42:30 <Belugas> after all, tfc_newmap got the same kind of access (kinda..) before becoming devs ;) 17:47:46 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C87C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:51:13 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC62E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:51:29 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC62E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:02 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C87C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:10 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:02:04 *** jorgur [Jorgur@216-22-244.521110.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #openttd 18:19:07 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:14 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-165-186.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:22:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:22:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-141-201-19.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:25:52 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:18 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 18:36:40 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> Maedhros, (...), and why didn't you secretly commit diagonal crossings when nobody was looking? :p <-- do you think nobody would notice and that nobody would read the commit log for new people? 18:36:50 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: that was a really good one :D 18:37:09 <hylje> commit log? that's just a smokescreen 18:38:41 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, it's possible everyone who would care could become blinded for a week. 18:38:55 <Born_Acorn> Extremely unlikely, but possible. 18:40:15 <ln-> Bjarni: one doesn't need to tell the truth in the commit log if the goal is to do something secretly. 18:43:47 <Bjarni> good point 18:43:58 <Bjarni> I never wrote "added easteregg" 18:44:01 <Bjarni> err 18:44:12 <Sacro> :o he admits it 18:44:22 * Bjarni wonders if he should have written that now 18:44:39 <Bjarni> forget that I said anything ;) 18:44:56 <Bjarni> actually what I meant is that we also look at the diff files 18:45:14 <Bjarni> specially if the commit is somewhat interesting, like from a new guy 18:45:57 <hylje> somewhat interesting commit -- wtfy? 18:48:41 <Sacro> whoo im moving out soon :D 18:53:02 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:57:55 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> join the navy, see the world? :) 18:59:07 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B35E42.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:03:20 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-186-244.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 19:07:34 <CIA-2> miham * r6514 /trunk/lang/ (estonian.txt swedish.txt): 19:07:34 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-26 21:05:50 19:07:34 <CIA-2> estonian - 40 fixed by t2t2 (40) 19:07:34 <CIA-2> swedish - 34 fixed, 3 deleted, 49 changed by cjw (86) 19:11:36 *** FrankBA_ [debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:18 *** FrankBA_ [~fbas@thing2thing.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:01 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-165-186.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:20:41 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6515 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Feature: added "start all" and "stop all" buttons to the depot windows 19:21:13 <Bjarni> one click to rule them all 19:23:29 <hylje> so you're merging miniin features to trunk 19:26:15 <Bjarni> actually I just wrote this one 19:26:40 <Bjarni> it was fairly easy after I made a function to get a list of all vehicles in a depot and merged the depot GUI stuff 19:27:24 <Bjarni> also notice: I didn't have anybody else to credit for this one ;) 19:28:01 <hylje> :x 19:28:13 <hylje> also 19:28:26 <hylje> could you do start/stop all for vehicle lists 19:28:38 *** Rysh [rysh@emm250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29:23 *** Rysh [rysh@emm250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:30:42 <Bjarni> you mean somebody wrote a start all patch for MiniIN? 19:30:51 <Bjarni> I looked, but didn't see it in the list 19:30:59 <Bjarni> maybe I looked at an out of date list 19:32:01 <hylje> you could take a look at miniin for new features 19:32:12 <hylje> theres plenty of stuff which is fairly priceless 19:32:18 <Belugas> [15:30] <@Bjarni> also notice: I didn't have anybody else to credit for this one ;)<---- nor did you've shown it before commit ;) 19:32:22 <hylje> like auto-complete for signal 19:32:36 <hylje> (although that is buggy still) 19:35:02 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B830DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:58 <Bjarni> Belugas: yeah... well, it was fairly simple compared to the other stuff I made lately ;) 19:39:29 <Bjarni> <hylje> like auto-complete for signal <-- I looked at that one recently. It even failed to apply to the trunk 19:39:33 <Bjarni> :( 19:39:53 <hylje> then check what it does and reimplement 19:40:44 <hylje> and make sure it doesnt crap out when you have track like this: --x- where x is a bend without connection to --, each character is a tile 19:40:45 <Bjarni> that would take a while 19:41:01 *** pumpkin [~ram@p54A655CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:21 <ln-> what would you say if the map was divided into countries? 19:41:26 <Belugas> joking, Bjarni :) 19:41:38 <Bjarni> heh 19:42:04 <Bjarni> ln-: the last time I looked in my atlas, it was divided into countries 19:42:20 <ln-> Bjarni: it's been obsoleted by the schengen agreement. 19:43:08 <ln-> well seriously, we entered germany from austria by car at night, and i really couldn't tell where the border was. 19:43:32 <ln-> but that's a little beside the point. 19:43:58 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-138-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:38 <hylje> at least sweden-denmark border is two signs to each direction 19:44:56 * peter1138 has no problems with finding the border 19:45:50 <Bjarni> ln-: at the Danish/German border, there is a house on the border (built before the border was moved in 1920) so the border goes though the bedroom. Imagine living there and your wife is all the way in another country.... just 1 or 2 meters away 19:46:32 <Bjarni> moving a bottle of wine from one end of the house to the other one would technically be smuggling 19:47:45 <ln-> nice 19:49:27 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-173-194.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:38 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:50:34 <ln-> ok, everyone successfully avoided commenting my real suggestion. \o/ 19:51:20 <hylje> :D 19:51:31 <hylje> mission accomplished 19:57:16 *** Rysh [rysh@emm250.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:16 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-64.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:22 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-97.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:05:45 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 20:07:22 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-186-244.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 20:07:48 *** UnderBuilder [~usuario@168.226.106.186] has joined #openttd 20:17:19 *** Spitfireleet [~samuelpou@host86-133-25-74.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:18:21 <Spitfireleet> is openttd compatiable with puppyos? 20:18:28 <Born_Acorn> Puppies! 20:18:33 * Born_Acorn loves puppies! 20:18:51 <hylje> Spitfireleet: dunno lol, should be portable enough 20:19:03 <Spitfireleet> :) 20:19:37 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't... they grow up and dogs are loud and they byte end smell 20:19:41 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: news hounds! 20:20:03 <Gonozal_VIII> e<>a 20:20:04 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! Ploppable Buildings" 20:20:05 <Born_Acorn> " 20:20:13 <peter1138> yes! 20:20:15 <Gonozal_VIII> ploppable? 20:20:15 <peter1138> PLOPPABLE 20:20:20 <Born_Acorn> With a P 20:20:50 <UnderBuilder> erm.... I was thinking on playstation2 port of OpenTTD but that is silly 20:20:50 <Gonozal_VIII> wtf are ploppable buildings? 20:21:25 <Born_Acorn> Basically a feature which allows you to plop any building onto the landscape. 20:21:38 <peter1138> in the scenario editor 20:21:40 <peter1138> of course 20:21:43 <UnderBuilder> (idea based on PSX port of TT 20:21:52 <Born_Acorn> Or a Sandbox mode, peter1138! 20:21:59 <peter1138> well, the psx version'll work on a ps2, won't it? ;p 20:22:06 <peter1138> sandbox mode! 20:22:33 <Born_Acorn> Yes! 20:22:35 <UnderBuilder> trouble will be non-original disks, those aren't read by normal ps2's 20:22:47 <peter1138> yikes, my last newgrf save/load code stuff was r4442 20:23:01 <peter1138> maybe i should start it again ;p 20:34:43 <ln-> http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=5457212&nav=0w0v 20:35:40 <Born_Acorn> The J Gonzalez law firm! 20:35:42 <Born_Acorn> Wow! 20:36:53 <peter1138> mad 20:37:50 <peter1138> i saw "outs" and wondered why her being gay mattered... 20:43:34 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:47:10 *** spkka [~squarepus@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:47:15 <spkka> hi all 20:48:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:49 <spkka> i got a question: is it possible to create new models for ttd and if yes with what 20:50:29 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F326.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:43 <Belugas> i have a question for you too spkka : models of what? 20:50:49 <spkka> yer 20:50:58 <spkka> busses 20:50:59 <spkka> trains etc 20:51:05 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 20:51:07 <spkka> i was jus wondering 20:51:41 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:52:38 <peter1138> spkka: yes 20:52:52 <spkka> sry to lazy for the forum haha its being real slow thats why 20:53:10 <spkka> ah what do yu guys use for it? 20:53:15 <peter1138> spkka: 1) you need an image editor 2) http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=GRFTutorial 20:53:35 <peter1138> ms paint is actually pretty popular, apparently 20:53:40 <Belugas> damed... peter1138 beat me to it :( 20:53:43 <spkka> haha <3 20:53:46 <spkka> hah belugas 20:53:50 <spkka> ez nice to meet yu guys 20:53:54 <peter1138> paint shop pro or gimp or whatever would do fine 20:54:14 <spkka> its awesome, i got it a few days ago and i saw theres still lot of development going on 20:56:10 <Belugas> and so many more to do :( 20:56:21 <spkka> yer 20:56:33 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 20:56:33 <spkka> unlimited right 20:56:34 <spkka> hah 20:58:05 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:59:31 *** Nigel__ [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 21:00:29 *** Nigel__ is now known as Nigel 21:01:12 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B35E42.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:21 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:02:59 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B817C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:03:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:06:10 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:32 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-57.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 21:11:22 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:23 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C87C.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:13:41 *** smeding_ [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:52 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:15:38 <spkka> so what are the latest additions to ttd? 21:16:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> there are no changes to ttd... there are to openttd, though 21:17:37 <spkka> ye 21:17:41 <spkka> but what? 21:18:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> svn.openttd.org has the changelog 21:18:23 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.5/2006091003]] 21:19:21 <spkka> thnx 21:20:03 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:14 *** Spitfireleet [~samuelpou@host86-133-25-74.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 21:23:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 21:24:39 *** glx|away [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:09 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by glx|away))] 21:25:22 *** glx|away is now known as glx 21:25:52 <UnderBuilder> now you dont are voice :) 21:26:11 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 21:26:37 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 21:26:45 <UnderBuilder> :( 21:27:41 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 21:27:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> all your voice are belong to us? 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22:06:16 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:06:26 <Born_Acorn> Not yet, we need support for new music first. 22:06:35 <spkka> already thought that 22:06:40 <spkka> becus its still midi huh? 22:07:07 *** mikk36[EST] [mikk36@pc143.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 22:07:22 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc143.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by mikk36[EST]))] 22:07:25 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 22:07:26 <spkka> anyone already workin on the support? 22:07:50 <Born_Acorn> nope. 22:08:03 <spkka> k then im out again and wait for a new update :P 22:08:16 <spkka> good luck! 22:08:54 *** spkka [~squarepus@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 22:10:48 <ln-> what's wrong with midi? 22:15:23 <Born_Acorn> Remember those annoying monophonic mobile phone ringtones of the ninetees? 22:15:29 <Born_Acorn> I need not explains further. 22:16:00 <ln-> they were not midi. 22:16:25 <pv2b> if anything midi was the basic technology used for _poly_phonic ring tones 22:16:35 <pv2b> these days, everything's just sampled though 22:16:47 <Born_Acorn> Yes, but it's an exaggerated comparation. 22:16:50 <Born_Acorn> Leave me alone! 22:17:03 * Born_Acorn pushes people down the stairs. 22:17:30 <pv2b> midi is good. but mod is better ;-) 22:18:17 <Wolf01> 'night 22:18:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:19:07 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: FOOOOOOOOD!~] 22:27:47 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:37:36 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> europa.oftc.net quits: _42_ 22:38:06 *** Netsplit over, joins: _42_ 22:39:07 <Bjarni> any newgrf with refitable road vehicles? 22:39:26 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: you know stuff like that ;) 22:39:44 <glx> long_vehicle 22:39:58 <Bjarni> and so did glx :) 22:43:29 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:46:40 <Bjarni> something is not right 22:46:48 <Bjarni> I don't see any long vehicles :( 22:47:40 <Bjarni> I even disabled the uk train set to be sure that they didn't conflict so I only got that grf loaded 22:47:47 <Bjarni> it appears to be unaffected :( 22:48:07 <glx> hmm you tried the latest version ? 22:48:17 <Bjarni> I just downloaded it 22:48:22 <Bjarni> head revision 22:48:32 <Bjarni> of OTTD and version 4 of the long vehicles 22:48:43 <glx> LV4 is not supported AFAIK 22:48:56 <Bjarni> ok, that might explain it 22:49:17 <Bjarni> then what road vehicle set is supported and contains refitable road vehicles ;) 22:50:08 <glx> there's a thread on forums 22:50:15 <glx> I'm trying to find it 22:58:45 <Bjarni> hmm 22:59:05 * Bjarni wonders why the aircraft refit window is one line higher than the other ones 23:01:28 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: ping 23:01:37 <Bjarni> glx: nevermind. I hacked the source to show the window instead 23:01:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> ? 23:01:52 <Bjarni> so now I can see it even though I can't actually refit the vehicle 23:01:57 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-187-224.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:01:59 <glx> Eddi|zuHause2: you're using a LV set right? 23:02:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... not in a long time 23:02:22 <glx> what version did you use? 23:02:37 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> ugh... no clue... old :p 23:03:05 <lws1984> Sacro_! 23:03:12 <Sacro> lws1984! 23:03:39 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: btw something completely different 23:03:51 <Bjarni> I investigated the relation between eisen and jern 23:05:36 <Bjarni> it turned out that eisen originally started with a long e, which turned into ei. It then turned into je north of Germany, but not in German and English kept the I, but not the e 23:06:20 <Bjarni> and (don't ask why) at some time it was common for words to replace an "s" with an "r", which happened in Iron and jern 23:06:33 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: so Eisen, Jern and Iron are actually the same word 23:06:51 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: it was you, who wondered about the relationship between those words, right? 23:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah 23:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> thanks for the info ;) 23:07:36 <Bjarni> well, here you got the explanation 23:07:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> sounds interesting ;) 23:07:42 <Sacro> evening all 23:08:13 <Bjarni> and it's a really old word as some of those changes are more than 1000 years old 23:08:36 <Bjarni> and it's not impossible that it's the original word from when people started using iron in the iron age 23:09:21 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:13:19 <Sacro> Bjarni: im getting away from my mum :D 23:13:39 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 23:15:47 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F326.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:17 <Bjarni> Sacro: good for you 23:16:20 <Bjarni> I really mean it 23:16:38 <Bjarni> now the question is: where is your new hellhole? 23:16:47 <Sacro> its in Hull 23:16:55 <Sacro> but a pretty area of it 23:17:07 <Bjarni> Hull got a pretty area? 23:17:32 <Sacro> yeah, its not far from the Uni, and the college im at, andd where i work 23:18:36 <Born_Acorn> (00:16:37) <Bjarni> now the question is: where is your new hellhole? <-- You mean hullhole 23:18:44 <Bjarni> yeah 23:18:50 <Sacro> could be worse... could be wales... 23:18:57 <Bjarni> yeah 23:19:00 <Born_Acorn> But it isn't! 23:19:09 <Born_Acorn> Keep the non-alcies out! 23:19:22 <Sacro> :o 23:19:37 <Bjarni> <Sacro> could be worse... could be wales... <-- then if you get lost, you would not even be able to ask for directions because you would not be able to say the name of your new hometown 23:19:50 <Sacro> Bjarni: i'd just sneeze and hope they got it 23:20:21 * Born_Acorn lives in Wrexham. 23:20:31 <Bjarni> how do you say that? 23:20:33 <Born_Acorn> It's all very pronounicble. 23:20:55 <Sacro> pronouncable? 23:21:04 <Born_Acorn> No, pronouncible. 23:21:09 <Born_Acorn> It's better. 23:22:24 <Sacro> in what way? 23:24:21 <Born_Acorn> It has an i. 23:24:38 <Born_Acorn> There is no I in ponouncable 23:24:41 <Born_Acorn> *pro 23:28:34 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 23:31:15 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:33:43 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-187-224.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:07 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-199.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> could that be pronounceable? 23:40:25 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2CE7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:40:26 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2CE7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:23 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B35E42.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 23:46:39 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has joined #openttd 23:52:17 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.200.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:19 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: btw did you notice that I added a "start all" button to the depot windows? 23:53:41 <Bjarni> and to honour you, I added an "oops" button aka "stop all" ;) 23:53:45 <Born_Acorn> Heehee 23:53:49 <Born_Acorn> Thanks. :p 23:54:02 * Born_Acorn can undo any mistakes now. :p 23:54:30 <Bjarni> no 23:54:33 <Bjarni> not ships 23:54:39 <Bjarni> they are all released right away 23:54:52 <Bjarni> not like the other vehicles, that queue up at the exit 23:55:32 <Bjarni> I had more than 20 ships leaving at once and it looked like one ship because they were travelling at the same speed with the same destination and they all left the depot at the same tick 23:55:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> now we need dragging to select several vehicles on the map, and right clicking to give orders ;) 23:56:18 <Bjarni> ... 23:56:21 <Bjarni> shared orders 23:56:22 <Bjarni> ... 23:56:26 <Bjarni> that's the solution ;) 23:57:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> it was meant ironically... 23:58:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> (and i played too many real time strategy games :p) 23:58:25 <Bjarni> actually I wondered about that "sell all" button somebody requested. It's fairly easy to do, but I think I will need to add a popup with "are you sure" to help Born_Acorn 23:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> you need a general "undo last 10 seconds" button ;) 23:58:56 <Born_Acorn> :p 23:59:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> especially in scenario editor 23:59:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> does the scenario editor have an autosave meanwhile?