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<Rubidium> maybe toggle the fifo loading patch setting? 00:40:12 <KeeperOfTheSoul> although I can't say for certain, I forget what's in patches, whats in trunk to whats in releases :) 00:43:23 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:43:48 <Rubidium> KeeperOfTheSoul: patches as in the 'Configure patches' GUI 00:44:05 <KeeperOfTheSoul> no, patches as in diff 00:44:43 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I do like being able to tweek the little things to suit one's self :) 00:46:52 <Rubidium> yes, but the problem that one train is loaded at a time can, AFAIK, be solved by toggling that patch setting 01:02:05 *** TPK [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:04:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8695 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (14 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: changed AssignWidgetToWindow() and InvalidateWidget() into Window methods 01:06:17 *** TPK [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 01:09:09 *** 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OpenTTD: bjarni * r8696 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (6 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: changed GetMenuItemIndex() and ResizeWindow() into Window methods 09:56:44 <Smoovious> Bjarni... you recently submitted a patch having to do with unshareing a vehicles orders by clicking delete with 'shared orders' highlighted... 09:56:57 <Smoovious> will the orders be kept now, but unshared? 09:57:25 <Smoovious> (useful for changing one entry but keeping the others intact for a slightly different route) 09:58:34 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:58:59 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:01:52 <Wolf01> hi 10:02:13 <Bjarni> you mean you want to unshare orders, but keep the orderlist, so you can change just one stop (like a waypoint)? 10:02:18 <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 10:02:41 <Smoovious> yeah 10:02:43 <Bjarni> you can't do that with the patch I committed, but it will not rule out the option of making new patches 10:03:09 <Smoovious> ok... I'll toss it up on flyspray later tonight then 10:03:46 <Bjarni> you see, when you share orders, you will make one order list and all the vehicles sharing it will use it. If you unshare the orders the vehicle will just stop pointing to those orders (list will then be empty) 10:04:14 <Bjarni> if you want to have the orders, but not share them the game will have to copy every single order 10:04:32 <Bjarni> which will be more work than my one line commit earlier :) 10:04:53 <Smoovious> yeah, I understand the way it works, and that is exactly what I would want... to keep the order list 10:04:55 <Smoovious> no prob 10:05:07 <Smoovious> perhaps, something like... 10:05:38 <Smoovious> clicking Delete with Shared Orders highlighted, will unshare the orders, retaining the list of orders... clicking Delete with End of Orders highlighted, will clear the orders 10:06:01 <Bjarni> that would be stupid 10:06:07 <Wolf01> i've seen that egladil made a new zoom out level for the 32bpp branch... good idea.. now i want to know the code so i can make a zoom in level for trunk, instead of using the ugly ctrl+d 10:06:17 <Bjarni> then you will need to copy the orders and then delete them if you want to get rid of them 10:06:20 <Smoovious> (I'd also like a shift-click on full load/unload/non-stop to set the flag on all orders at the same time too) 10:06:31 <Bjarni> which means you will have to find free orders to add 10:06:38 <Bjarni> and you risk not being able to do so 10:06:44 <Smoovious> well, I can't really think of a better way to implement it 10:06:47 <Smoovious> right now 10:07:12 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:07:22 <Bjarni> I know how to code this (I think), but I'm out of ideas for the user interface 10:07:37 <Bjarni> or maybe not 10:07:57 <Wolf01> bjarni, there is a way to make orders grabbable? i mean to change their positions, instead of delete the order and remake it in a different position 10:08:08 <Bjarni> I could add a menu with the rarely used functions (deleting all orders would be a rare event) 10:08:13 <Smoovious> just thinking that if you're doing that on a vehicle that was already on the shared route, odds are good that the new route it will be on, would be similar in most cases... I don't see someone sending a truck to the other side of the map for example 10:08:35 <Rubidium> Wolf01: zooming out != using CTRL+d 10:08:43 <Smoovious> but unsharing the orders, is effectively deleting them anyways for that one vehicle 10:08:47 <Wolf01> i mean zooming in 10:09:19 <Rubidium> but he hasn't made the zoom in level (yet) 10:09:50 <Wolf01> yeah, but he made the zoom out level and i was working on the zoom in (with ugly graphical glitches) 10:10:25 <Rubidium> so how do you think the added zoom out level will help you creating the zoom in functionality? 10:10:33 <Wolf01> why not? 10:10:42 <Bjarni> damn, even though I fix those items on my TODO list, it's still rather big 10:10:58 * Smoovious grins. 10:11:15 <Bjarni> because it's like when I fix one thing you guys go "oh, can you do this as well, because it's kind of similar", so fixing one item adds 2-3 new items 10:11:24 <Rubidium> because zoom level 0 are the normal sprites 10:11:34 <Rubidium> everything zoomed out is just a downscale of those sprites 10:11:49 <Smoovious> could use another zoom-in level too... granted, all the pixels would be doubled (or squared), but with the hi-res screen I'm using, wouldn't be that big a deal 10:12:15 <Rubidium> adding a zoom level at the zoom out is 'just' increasing some constants, the other way around is much more difficult as you need to remap the zoom levels 10:12:27 <Bjarni> an extra zoom in level would be ok with 32 bit graphics. We could add the option to make twice a big sprites 10:12:52 <Wolf01> i use often the ctrl+d but it doubles also the gui, which i don't want, if there is a way to double only the sprites that should be a great improvement 10:13:13 <Smoovious> yeah, but I'm thinking even without using new sprites, I'd still be happy with further zooming in... even if what I see is slightly pixelated 10:13:24 <Rubidium> Wolf01: there was such a patch not very long ago 10:13:27 <Smoovious> yeah, the ^D just ... that's not a good substitute 10:14:29 <Wolf01> i've never seen that patch... or it was just my tryout 10:15:42 <Wolf01> i remapped successfully the zoom levels, but something was wrong 10:16:17 <Wolf01> now it is 10:16:17 <Wolf01> NORMAL 10:16:17 <Wolf01> ZOOM_IN 10:16:17 <Wolf01> ZOOM_OUT 10:16:17 <Wolf01> or something like that 10:16:48 <Wolf01> i made 10:16:48 <Wolf01> ZOOM_IN 10:16:48 <Wolf01> NORMAL 10:16:48 <Wolf01> ZOOM_OUT 10:16:48 <Wolf01> ZOOM_MORE_OUT 10:17:11 * Smoovious grins. 10:17:25 <Wolf01> all worked like now but not the ZOOM_IN 10:17:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8697 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (misc_gui.cpp station_gui.cpp window.cpp window.h): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: changed IsWindowOfPrototype() is a Window method 10:17:43 <Smoovious> what's wrong with ZOOM-2, ZOOM-1, ZOOM+0, ZOOM+1, ZOOM+2 10:17:50 <Smoovious> :D 10:18:26 <Wolf01> ZOOM-2 is useless.. at least if you don't want to see what happen into houses :P 10:18:40 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|Break 10:18:41 <Smoovious> dunno if you can use a signed 8-bit integer, but maybe zoom(#) where # can be from -127 to 128 10:18:48 <Smoovious> or however many bits are being used 10:19:33 <Smoovious> Zoom-2 would be more for getting an overview of what's nearby... like, seeing how the terrain is laid out while you're laying track from A to B 10:19:58 <Smoovious> besides... I usually have transparent buildings on so I don't see the houses themselves anyways :D 10:20:29 <Smoovious> which reminds me... gotta have a way to still see the depots in their company colors... I waste so much time trying to figure out where my inner-city bus depots are all the time 10:21:19 <Smoovious> usually I just grab a nearby bus, send it to the depot, and watch where it goes :D 10:24:30 *** Wolf01|Break is now known as Wolf01 10:26:39 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8698 /trunk/src/ (11 files): -Codechange: enumify the returns of VehicleEnterTile 10:27:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8699 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (7 files): [cpp_gui] -Cleanup: removed the word Window from some Window method names as just being Winddow methods indicates that it's working on a window 10:27:29 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 10:30:31 <Wolf01> <Smoovious> [...] I waste so much time trying to figure out where my inner-city bus depots are all the time 10:30:31 <Wolf01> use the transparency options :D 10:33:57 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:34:02 <Bjarni> it's cheating to loop though objects :P 10:34:14 <Bjarni> who do you think he is? Superman? :P 10:35:17 <lolman> Ello all :) 10:37:06 <lolman> Hah, I knew people were scared of me 10:37:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DCE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:54 <boekabart_> Wolf01: egladil made an extra zoom OUT patch 10:40:06 <boekabart_> not zoom in, that would be a bit less trivial 10:41:09 <boekabart_> anyway, either on aren't easy to do in trunk since you'd have to write a new sprite blitter at 1/8 zoom level; for 32bpp patches it's easy to do since it already uses a (down)scaling blitter for every zoom level 10:41:13 <Smoovious> what transparency options? 10:43:14 <boekabart_> In (proposed) 32bpp, the current zoom level would be the '-2' zoom level (now tile sprites are 32 wide, then will be 4x as big, 128 wide). 10:43:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8700 /trunk/src/train_cmd.cpp: -Fix (8698): replaced a magic number with the wrong enum :( 10:46:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8701 /trunk/src/ (7 files): -Codechange: replace magic numbers with enums for u.rail.track. 10:48:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:49:28 <Wolf01> thank you boekabart_, i already know this 10:49:50 <Wolf01> <Smoovious> what transparency options? 10:49:50 <Wolf01> my patch :D 10:50:22 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80581.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:50:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:50:52 <Smoovious> sorry... I wasn't able to set my computer up to make my own compiles... unfortunately... :( 10:51:54 <Smoovious> 2 years ago, I upgraded 98se to 2000pro instead of 2000server like I wanted to... not noticing I hit the wrong selection... then when I realized it, figured I'd just downgrade back, and re-upgrade like I've done before, but 2000pro didn't include that possibility this time around 10:52:40 <Smoovious> so the only upgrade path for me now is XPpro... which I SOOOO don't wanna go to... and I can't upgrade to 2003... so I'm stuck for the time being, since one of the packages I need to install involving DirectX, won't install on 2000... 10:53:04 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:53:09 <Smoovious> so one of these days when I get my hands on another box, I'll put 2003 on that, or put a *nix on it (or both)... 10:53:28 <Smoovious> thinking about just running a *nix in a VM for the time being just for compiling tho 10:56:45 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:53 <lolman> Oh Noes 10:58:41 <lolman> Smoovious: can't you install XPPro then 2003? 11:00:07 <boekabart_> Smoovious: or reinstall the entire PC.. so worth the effort 11:00:18 <boekabart_> especially if you already upgraded from 98 ;) 11:01:55 <Smoovious> it is SO not worth the effort... reinstalling from bare, would involve well over 3 continuous weeks of work getting everything set back up the way I like it, getting all my data back in place, reconfiguring the LAN and everything else... 11:02:26 <Smoovious> I don't know if XPpro has an upgrade path to 2003server... I'd have to investigate that, but I don't think there is 11:03:31 <Smoovious> nope... not going to be cut off that long... will deal with all of the migration when I have a seperate computer to get set up at my leisure 11:05:09 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 11:05:19 <Smoovious> just reinstall is fine if you don't keep much on the computer, and never customise, or tweak, or anything else with it but play games and 1 or 2 other programs... but there is just too much to do... that kind of reinstall is a major undertaking 11:06:57 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 11:10:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8702 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (36 files in 2 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: changed the 3 window functions in widget.cpp into Window methods 11:10:08 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:09 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 11:10:47 <Bjarni> btw I'm not going to change the orders window right now. It will just make syncing the cpp_gui branch harder than it have to be 11:13:14 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:11 <Smoovious> not a problem... I figured it could be something post-0.5.0-stable... 11:19:49 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@dns1.netanday.it] has joined #openttd 11:19:49 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:05 <Wolf01> mmmh my sysadmin closed the wrong ssh client 11:20:14 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@dns1.netanday.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:35 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:20:39 <Wolf01> now i dit it 11:21:23 * Smoovious grins. 11:22:05 <Wolf01> Smoovious, why not dl the win32 from my topic on the forums? 11:22:29 <Wolf01> (about the talk of transparency options) 11:24:13 <Smoovious> ahh, well, I don't do forums that much, haven't seen it... taking a break from TTD for now anyways... catching up on a bunch of other stuff I've been neglecting the past few weeks 11:24:53 <Smoovious> webforums just annoy me... too much of a newsgroup guy 11:27:02 <Wolf01> if you want here is the direct link: http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/ottd_wolf01.zip 11:27:26 <Wolf01> built on the release 8680 11:27:33 <Wolf01> (of trunk) 11:28:24 <Smoovious> k... will set it aside for now... maybe peek at it tomorrow... ~6:30a for me now... gonna head to bed 11:28:25 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28:29 <Smoovious> 'night folks 11:28:36 <Wolf01> 'night 11:29:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8703 /trunk/src/ (ship_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange/cleanup: some magic numbers -> enums and other small coding style changes to the ShipController and TrainController. 11:38:32 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:38:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8704 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: flash_timeout and autorepeat_timeout extracted from Window::flags4 11:42:56 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:46:29 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 11:53:17 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.58.238] has quit [] 11:55:29 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:58:05 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 12:01:44 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|Lunch 12:18:52 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.58.238] has joined #openttd 12:31:57 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:34:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: celestar * r8705 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: Increased the number of airport blocks to 64. This involves changing the enum of airport blocks to a static const uint64 as SOME platforms do not support 64-bit enums 12:36:53 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 12:46:13 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 12:53:16 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:54:15 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 12:57:05 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-104-141.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8706 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (window.cpp window.h): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: few more functions turned into Window methods 13:08:01 *** Wolf01|Lunch is now known as Wolf01 13:10:03 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 13:11:51 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:28 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 13:17:01 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:19:55 <Wolf01> bye 13:19:57 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 13:27:28 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-143-026.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:31:19 *** orudge` [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:31:43 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by orudge`))] 13:31:45 *** orudge` is now known as orudge 13:39:43 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:45:05 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-217.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:48:18 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:23:00 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm136.sigma117.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:32:15 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2942F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:42:59 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:43:22 <lolman> Oh Noes 14:43:54 <Sacro|Laptop> indeed 14:45:16 <lolman> Got my hands on another machine to shove Linux on 14:47:47 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:55 <lolman> Hah 14:57:07 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 14:57:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:03 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06:39 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 15:19:34 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2942F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 15:28:15 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:34 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 15:30:39 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:26 *** balli_ [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has joined #openttd 15:31:37 *** balli_ [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has quit [] 15:31:57 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm136.sigma117.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:32:34 *** balli_ [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has joined #openttd 15:35:09 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:44 *** SacroOSX [~ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:41:50 <SacroOSX> !seen Bjarni 15:41:52 <_42_> SacroOSX, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd 4 hours 3 minutes ago (13.02. 11:38) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 2 hours 53 minutes there. 15:42:14 <SacroOSX> hmm 15:42:19 <SacroOSX> osx is different 15:42:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: celestar * r8707 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: Turn IsValidStation into a method of Station 15:44:02 *** SacroOSX [~ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 15:44:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: celestar * r8708 /trunk/src/station.cpp: -Codechange(r8514): No need to use "this->" in methods 15:45:21 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 15:52:04 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:40 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 16:25:24 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 16:25:37 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage`] 16:26:00 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:26:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:26:17 <lolman> :o 16:26:48 * Bjarni slaps lolman 16:26:58 <lolman> Bjarni: Sacro was looking for you earlier 16:27:08 <Bjarni> so what? 16:27:10 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:17 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 16:27:20 <Bjarni> I'm not going to meet him 16:27:22 <lolman> Just letting you know :P 16:27:34 <Bjarni> thanks for the warning 16:27:46 <lolman> Hrm, brb 16:29:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:35:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80581.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: celestar * r8709 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix/Codechange: Rename the function GetStationPlatforms into GetPlatformLength 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: because that is what it really does. Overload it because there is already a 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: GetPlatformLength (one gives the length of the whole platform, the other gives 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: the remaining length in a given direction). Turned both functions into methods 16:36:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: of Station. While messing around with it, fix a problem where loading times for 16:36:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: overhanging trains are miscomputed. 16:37:31 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3DFF9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B824EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:38:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:38:01 <lolman> Back :) 16:38:30 <Bjarni> (: fronT 16:38:46 <lolman> Haha 16:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> i love that commit message :p 16:39:10 <Bjarni> it says that it should say 16:39:23 <Bjarni> it gives all the needed info about what changed 16:39:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> write an essay about tiny nonfunctional changes and hide an actual change in a side clause :p 16:43:24 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D5B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:49 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 16:49:51 *** DarkSSHClone is now known as Darkvater 16:59:22 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:01:09 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:05:04 *** Roelt [~roel@e74036.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:10:27 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC4B6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:51 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:52 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 17:41:53 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [] 17:43:23 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-141.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:43:31 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-141.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:44:43 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2942F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:49:49 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 17:56:10 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 18:03:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:03:52 <Wolf01> evening, morning, afternoon... sunday monday happy days 18:04:16 <Bjarni> it's not Sunday anywhere on the planet :P 18:04:27 <Bjarni> and no Mondays either 18:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> aaah... he's gone completely crazy 18:04:42 <Bjarni> so no change? 18:04:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarni: not to speak of happy days ;) 18:05:08 <Bjarni> yeah 18:05:15 <Bjarni> usually days don't have moods 18:07:27 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:07:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8710 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (12 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: yet another two functions are turned into Window methods 18:12:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:28 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:19:44 <izhirahider> how can I move a buoey to an adjacent tile? 18:20:45 <Bjarni> build a new one and delete the old one 18:22:09 <scia> buoy-walking :D 18:23:13 <Bjarni> station walking with buoys :D 18:23:35 <Bjarni> well, by design they can't be moved 18:23:43 <SpComb> zonk 18:25:11 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I was wondering about a move function for waypoints/depots/etc so that you could shift them without breaking all the things that relied upon them 18:25:32 <SpComb> the station doesn't go away right after you blow up the station 18:25:42 <SpComb> well, at least the station sign doesn't 18:25:58 <SpComb> if you build another station close by then it replaces the old one 18:26:06 <Bjarni> waypoints aren't stations by design 18:26:10 <KeeperOfTheSoul> that doesn't help with relocating depots though 18:26:15 <Bjarni> it would need a redesign of them to be able to do that 18:26:27 <Bjarni> the same goes for multiple tile waypoints 18:26:36 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Bjarni: even for a simple relocate function? 18:26:46 <Bjarni> yes 18:26:59 <Bjarni> well, maybe depots would be able to do it, but not waypoints 18:27:11 <Bjarni> they are hardcoded to the TileIndex they are in 18:27:32 <KeeperOfTheSoul> so the orders store the tile index of the waypoint? 18:28:20 <Bjarni> moving it to a new tile would be like having a function that builds a new one, copies the name from the old to the new one and then loops all orders and change the orders to the new tile and then delete the old one 18:28:24 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 18:28:25 <Bjarni> all that in one function 18:28:34 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489EFA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:35 <Bjarni> could take a while to code 18:28:36 <KeeperOfTheSoul> basically, that's what I was thinking 18:29:05 <Bjarni> but the idea of reusing the same waypoint and just change the tile will never work 18:29:30 <Bjarni> however my description would... I think 18:29:35 <Bjarni> I better write it down 18:29:49 <KeeperOfTheSoul> not needed, it's just the updating of orders I don't like if I need to shift a depot to a new location 18:30:21 <KeeperOfTheSoul> could make it more generic even, so the option to update waypoints is part of the station/depot/waypoint instead of having a specific move function 18:30:25 * Bjarni is still talking about waypoints 18:31:39 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:32:59 * Tefad talks about URMOM 18:34:17 <KeeperOfTheSoul> that would work well, some sort of ability to say - for all vehicles which have this item as an order [insert order before/after/replace order with] order ... 18:35:05 <KeeperOfTheSoul> which would work well with my other common scenaro where a station grows and I want all current trains to go via a particular waypoint to the station, and certain other trains via a different waypoint to the station 18:35:46 <KeeperOfTheSoul> and as an update to that once working some sort of selection criteria, such as all trains that carry grain, etc 18:39:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host176-60-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:41:39 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:42:31 <Wolf01> 20:25:11 < KeeperOfTheSoul> I was wondering about a move function for waypoints/depots/etc so that you could shift them without breaking all the things that relied upon them 18:42:34 <Wolf01> i made it 18:42:48 <Wolf01> or at least... Frostregen made it on my idea :P 18:46:03 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176104005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:47:55 *** boekabart [~boekabart@c97171.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:48:34 <KeeperOfTheSoul> cool, I'll have to lookout for that one 18:49:15 <Wolf01> i don't remember if it was included on miniIN 18:49:18 <Wolf01> maybe yes 18:49:44 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:49:48 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:04 <Wolf01> yes, now i remember, it is in miniIN but the old version with alt key to popup the nearest station list 18:50:24 <Wolf01> and ctrl key to split a station when you want to build it near an opponent one 18:50:39 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CD8A.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:44 <Wolf01> (the ctrl key part is mine :P) 18:50:59 <KeeperOfTheSoul> so you can build two stations adjacent? 18:51:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:23 <Wolf01> yeah 18:52:05 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=474008#474008 18:54:12 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/files/bhlist_100.png here is the image showing how you can join at distance a station 18:54:19 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 18:57:06 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:59 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:08:45 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 19:10:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host176-60-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 19:20:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:20:29 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-103-26.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:22:29 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:58 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 19:24:32 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:36:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8711 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (7 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: even more funktion->method conversions 19:46:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 19:51:36 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489EFA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:59 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:17 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 19:56:47 <peter1138> hello 19:57:53 <Rubidium> evening peter1138 19:57:55 <Bjarni> hi 19:59:13 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 19:59:30 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:00:50 <Belugas> Hello peter1138 :) 20:02:48 <peter1138> bah, stupid laptop 20:02:48 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:16 <peter1138> when it starts or stops the cpu fan, it halts for a brief period 20:03:34 <peter1138> causing music, etc, to stutter 20:03:37 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 20:03:58 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:05:43 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:07:55 <Bjarni> peter1138: I hope that it controls the fan correctly so it will not stop it, heat up so it starts again, then turns it off because it's cold.... you get the idea :) 20:08:13 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D6F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:24 <peter1138> pretty much 20:10:58 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:11:59 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D198.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:19 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:46 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:22 <peter1138> maybe i'll block the air vent 20:16:28 <peter1138> then it'll just stay on... 20:16:54 <Roelt> or overheat and shutdown 20:17:09 <peter1138> it won't shutdown 20:17:12 <peter1138> it would just lock up 20:18:05 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:22:27 <boekabart> Ontopic: Question. There are 2 numbers for tilesize in code, 16 and 32 20:22:36 <boekabart> are they both linked to 'pixels per tile' ? 20:23:17 <boekabart> or is the 16 just a logical number for 'position on tile' that shouldn't change when going to larger base sprites 20:23:23 <peter1138> yes 20:23:27 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:30 <peter1138> 16 is game units 20:23:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host175-238-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:24:00 <boekabart> ok, i get that. can or will that change with larger tiles? it would influence the game completely, right? 20:24:29 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:24:48 <Bjarni> are you thinking about sprites or gamewise enlargement? 20:25:33 <Bjarni> because if it's graphical, then it would (at least in theory) be possible to add higher resolution sprites 20:25:52 <Bjarni> however the resolution of where the vehicles is would remain the same 20:26:03 <peter1138> well 20:26:06 <peter1138> it would be possible to change it 20:26:10 <peter1138> but is "more work" 20:26:25 <Bjarni> is it worth the time? 20:26:49 <peter1138> if there are larger tiles, possibly 20:26:57 <boekabart> sprites 20:27:04 <peter1138> i imagine road or aircraft movement states would need adjusting 20:27:29 <boekabart> i want to see (32bpp patch) how hard it is to upscale sprites to be 64, 128 pixels instead of 32 20:27:43 <peter1138> it'll look silly, imho 20:27:51 <Bjarni> why would you want so big sprites? 20:27:59 <Tron> if you keep the game units the same but scale the sprites vehicles will "jump" 20:28:00 <peter1138> btw, our sprites are 64 across 20:28:00 <boekabart> well it's something the 32bit gfx guys want i believe 20:28:02 <peter1138> not 32 20:28:05 <Bjarni> you would not be able to see many tiles at once 20:28:12 <boekabart> i know, i agree 20:28:24 <Bjarni> reminds me of the guy, who though that each tile should be 1024x1024 20:28:29 <peter1138> the 32bpp graphics people have talked about 256 or 512 tiles... 20:28:33 <peter1138> or that 20:28:33 <peter1138> hehe 20:28:35 <boekabart> i (like egladil) added an extra zoom-out level which is far more useful 20:29:24 <boekabart> stupiud C question then... does 4 >> -2 exist? 20:29:28 <boekabart> guess not right? 20:29:58 <Tron> the right operand of shift operations must always be >= 0 20:30:22 <Tron> and less then the width of the left operand 20:30:26 <Tron> s/then/than/ 20:31:02 <boekabart> yeah, obvious, cpus don't even have a shr-signed op 20:32:06 <Tron> you'd just need one bit wider MUXes 20:32:18 <Tron> although this means twice as many transistors 20:32:26 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:38 <Tron> shifters need quite many transistors 20:33:04 <boekabart> ok i'm going back to playing with it anyway, but i agree to not really seeing the point in much larger sprites. 20:33:08 <boekabart> 64 maaaaaaaaaybe ;) 20:33:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host175-238-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:15 <boekabart> 128 maaaaaaaybe i mean 20:33:28 <peter1138> i dislike simutrans' 128 pixel set 20:33:39 <peter1138> but that may just be the inconsistencyness 20:33:41 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:34:02 <boekabart> default should be same 20:34:58 <Tron> 256 can look quite nice, too 20:35:01 <Tron> http://tron.homeunix.org/blit/screenshots/bla_18.png 20:36:24 <peter1138> yes 20:36:37 <peter1138> now put some out-of-scale vehicles and stations on it :) 20:40:10 <Roelt> that looks almost like an opengl game :) 20:40:31 <Tron> hardly 20:40:40 <Tron> polygon stuff looks way worse 20:41:07 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CD8A.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:48:11 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:51 <peter1138> solution to fan problem: run a visualisation so that the fan stays on... 20:52:22 <Bjarni> LOL 20:57:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8712 /trunk/src/ (rail.h roadveh_cmd.cpp): -Codechange/cleanup: replace 'magic' constants with enums, use proper types instead of byte, uint etc., give variables more descriptive names and add some comments. 21:01:41 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:09:56 *** Roelt is now known as Roel 21:15:25 *** Tuzlo [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has quit [] 21:16:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B824EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:19:11 <peter1138> # we're chai-ai-ained 21:19:30 <hylje> # psst, they dont see us chatting 21:19:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80383.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:19:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:19:48 <Roel> # Cool.. So we can make fun of the people that don't know this 21:19:58 <Roel> /* Does this work too */ 21:21:33 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:21:57 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:24:19 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x5735f073.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:24:48 <peter1138> ... 21:30:19 <Maedhros> # And he makes it fast with one more thing 21:30:34 <Maedhros> # We are the sultans of swing 21:31:33 <Roel> o/~ But would please explain about the fifty ways to leave your lover o/~ 21:31:46 <hylje> :o 21:32:09 <Roel> o/~ Hop on the bus, Gus o/~ 21:35:17 *** izhirahider [~izhirahid@izhirahider.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:58 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 21:39:26 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:31 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:50 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:00 <Maedhros> g'night 21:51:13 <Smoovious> rem wonder if the old-school works too 21:51:33 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 21:55:40 <Belugas> going home 21:55:56 <Belugas> good night, have fun, see you tomorrow, same hour, same chanel :) 21:56:07 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:20 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-138-130-149-27.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:02:22 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 22:09:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8713 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (24 files in 2 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: SetWindowWidgetDisabledState turned into Window method 22:17:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8714 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (9 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: DisableWindowWidget() and EnableWindowWidget() turned into Window methods 22:17:53 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:14 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 22:22:38 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 22:26:10 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 22:27:13 <peter1138> night 22:27:23 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:27:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8715 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange/cleanup: replace magic numbers related to state of road vehicles with enums. Original patch by mart3p. 22:32:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.58.238] has quit [] 22:33:00 *** PandaMojo__ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:24 *** boekabart [~boekabart@c97171.upc-c.chello.nl] has left #openttd [Your eyes grow heavy.. you grow very sleepy..... zzzz...] 22:37:40 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:52 *** PandaMojo__ is now known as PandaMojo 22:39:46 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 22:47:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8716 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (10 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: IsWindowWidgetDisabled() turned into Window method 22:49:56 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7E24.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 22:50:02 *** PandaMojo__ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:47 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC4B6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:40 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:52 *** PandaMojo__ is now known as PandaMojo 22:55:43 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176104005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:55:43 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:04 <Digitalfox> One question, i'm no programmer, but i'm curious... 22:57:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DCE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:30 <Digitalfox> If you say have to change a function like 1=2 to 1=3 and the change has a lot of files of the code, will you have to change all of the files where that change is need or you have some kind of automatic way? 22:58:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8717 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (6 files): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: changed the functions about closing all windows into methods 22:58:52 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Digitalfox: you would be refering to a refactoring tool 22:59:03 <KeeperOfTheSoul> it depends on how smart the tool is, and what the change is 22:59:53 <Digitalfox> KeeperOfTheSoul: Hum... Ok :) 23:00:26 <Bjarni> Digitalfox: it also depend on how wise you as a coder is. If you code something cleverly enough, you will not duplicate code 23:00:26 <Bjarni> *you is as a coder 23:00:40 <Bjarni> damn, I'm speaking Yodaish o_O 23:00:44 <Digitalfox> Bjarni: OK :) 23:01:06 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Bjarni: are, you are as a coder :) 23:01:20 <Bjarni> given your first statement, I presume that you aren't a wise coder 23:02:12 <Bjarni> <KeeperOfTheSoul> Bjarni: are, you are as a coder :) <-- considering what level of English I used in the first version of that sentence, we better most like 20 fixes forward before it's somewhat decent :P 23:02:50 <Digitalfox> Bjarni: Like the changes you and KUDr are doing with the branch cpp_gui, when making functions to methots do you have to make manual change to all files or you use like KeeperOfTheSoul says a " refactoring tool" ? 23:03:37 <KUDr> autoreplace tool 23:03:44 <Digitalfox> ^Maybe i'm making a bid confusion on what is turning functions to methods 23:03:48 <Bjarni> I prefer to actually look at the code I change, but usually I can go search and replace pretty fast 23:03:48 <Digitalfox> big 23:04:25 <KUDr> yes, it is called refactoring 23:04:39 <KUDr> but we don't use refactoring tool for it 23:04:42 <KUDr> :) 23:04:53 <Bjarni> so I just write the old string and the new one and then I click find and then "replace & find" for each one, but I like to see it before changing it 23:05:06 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C0F7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:05:11 <Digitalfox> Bjarni: I see.. :) 23:05:24 <Digitalfox> KUDr: Nice 23:05:29 <Bjarni> also sometimes the argument isn't w, but w2 or something and then I need to look into it (not tricky, I know, but still) 23:06:17 * Bjarni wonders about the stability of the login on uni 23:06:26 <Bjarni> it have been on and off since Monday 23:06:29 <Digitalfox> I like to learn how things work, so thanks for explaning 23:06:37 <Bjarni> now it have been off for hours 23:06:41 <Bjarni> :( 23:07:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8718 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (11 files in 2 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: SetWindowWidgetHiddenState(), HideWindowWidget(), ShowWindowWidget() and IsWindowWidgetHidden() turned into Window methods 23:08:18 <KeeperOfTheSoul> cool, so really aiming at moving over to cpp now? 23:08:38 <KUDr> KeeperOfTheSoul: only where it can help 23:09:13 <Bjarni> we will not convert to C++ unless we can benefit from it 23:09:23 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:09:33 <Bjarni> if you look at the code we remove, then you will understand why it's a good idea to replace it 23:11:40 <Digitalfox> So cpp_gui will turn more easy for people to understand the code right? 23:12:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C0F7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:26 <KeeperOfTheSoul> hopefully, as I keep getting lost :) 23:13:14 <Bjarni> well 23:13:32 <Bjarni> it depends 23:13:33 *** TPK [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:13:40 <Bjarni> on your skills :P 23:14:35 <stillunknown> That can be said for anything ;-) 23:15:19 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C5A2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:20:39 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:55 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C0F7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:26:12 *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing 23:26:20 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:27:25 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2942F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 23:28:50 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498FEBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:36 <Digitalfox> KUDr or Bjarni i read in revision 8683 log " note that although the number of windows is now unlimited, the maximum number of viewports is still hardcoded. This causes game crash when too many industry windows are opened.", will viewports max number be changed so no crashes happen? 23:29:53 <Digitalfox> Or a limit is applied? 23:30:25 <KUDr> probably will be changed too 23:30:32 <KUDr> we will see 23:30:54 <KUDr> but we should not do all at one shot 23:31:06 <KUDr> step by step seems better 23:32:37 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498EA45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:47 <Sacro> Bjarni: OSX is quite interesting... 23:37:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8719 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): -Fix: some strings have an empty translation where it isn't empty in english. 23:42:34 <Bjarni> Sacro: I know 23:42:58 <Sacro> Bjarni: my new laptop is running it sweetly 23:46:42 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 23:49:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8720 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (21 files in 2 dirs): [cpp_gui] -Codechange: SetWindowWidgetLoweredState(), ToggleWidgetLoweredState(), LowerWindowWidget(), RaiseWindowWidget() and IsWindowWidgetLowered() turned into Window methods 23:50:39 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjarni: my new laptop is running it sweetly <-- then you can download the OSX binary and compare it to what you have seen on other platforms 23:50:47 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes... 23:50:47 <Bjarni> could be interesting to see such a comparison 23:50:54 <Sacro> i can check XP, Vista, Linux, and OSX 23:51:17 <Sacro> not sure if i got the sound working yet though... 23:51:20 <Sacro> or wireless 23:51:44 <Bjarni> you can always try 23:53:04 <Sacro> yep 23:53:10 <Sacro> i know the wired network works nicely 23:53:14 <Sacro> as does the graphics 23:54:40 <Bjarni> sounds like an unofficial install then 23:55:15 <Sacro> yep 23:55:24 <Sacro> 0.4.7 JaS to start with 23:55:32 <Sacro> then updated to 10.4.8 23:58:56 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM