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00:09:48  <Wolf01> bah, each patch works individually... if i put them all together they don't work
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00:10:30  <Wolf01> time to go sleep
00:10:34  <Wolf01> night all
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00:58:17  <Rubidium> XeryusTC:
00:58:31  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8949 /trunk/src/network/ (network.cpp network.h network_server.cpp network_udp.cpp): -Codechange: only test the first NETWORK_REVISION_LENGTH - 1 characters when determining network compatability. This makes it possible to have 'long' branch names while still being able to play network games.
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01:24:47  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r8950 /trunk/src/ (23 files): -Cleanup: doxygen changes. Mostly @files missing tags and a few comments style.
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04:24:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r8951 /trunk/docs/landscape.html:
04:24:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Cleanup: Another bunch of re-formating and re-ordering.
04:24:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Among which, tiles area now read m1..m6, while the bits are always enumerated from 7 to 0
04:24:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Hoping it will stay that way...
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04:54:37  <blove> Is there anyone who goes by "Luca" here?
04:56:02  <Eddi|zuHause3> !seen luca*
04:56:03  <_42_> Eddi|zuHause3, I'm sorry, but your search didn't return any results.
04:57:17  <blove> I'm interested in the cargo packets subproject and the website seems to indicate that Luca is the person to see about it.
05:00:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> people that are not here are probably to reach on the forum
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09:28:43  <XeryusTC> Rubidium: cool :)
09:29:01  <XeryusTC> !openttd commit 8949
09:29:02  <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r8949 /trunk/src/network/ (4 files) (2007-03-01 00:58:09 UTC)
09:29:04  <_42_> -Codechange: only test the first NETWORK_REVISION_LENGTH - 1 characters when determining network compatability. This makes it possible to have 'long' branch names while still being able to play network games.
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10:33:32  <maddy> hiho
10:35:07  <maddy> i need a 'lil hint, i try to run a dedicated server, but i have only a few towns in my generated map, how can i increase the numbers of the towns? i tried to increase the number in openttd.cfg by diff_custom, but no effect
10:37:08  <Eddi|zuHause3> you can create a map in a local client, and then load that map on the server
10:37:44  <maddy> ahh
10:37:45  <maddy> ok
10:38:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> and if you change diff_custom, you also have to make sure that difficulty is set to custom as well
10:38:30  <maddy> i see
10:39:59  <maddy> and where do i change that?
10:42:01  <maddy> diff_level?
10:42:26  <Eddi|zuHause3> sounds good ;)
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12:04:46  <Smoovious> hmm... zeppelin disaster at small airport, yet, aircraft can still land
12:04:55  <Smoovious> and take off
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12:14:15  <Darkvater> ola
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12:16:28  <Rubidium> algida
12:17:14  <peter1138> grrr, fucking thing
12:17:41  <Darkvater> that thing must be pretty sexy
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13:26:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8952 /branches/cpp_gui/projects/ (langs.vcproj langs_vs80.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj): [cpp_gui] -Fix(r8938): VC project files corrupted
13:27:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8953 /trunk/src/ (water_cmd.cpp water_map.h): -Codechange: make the names of enums of WaterTileType consistent with respect to RailTileType and RoadTileType.
13:31:21  <Smoovious> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8952 <---- yay, KUDr :D
13:31:47  <KUDr_wrk> what?
13:32:02  <Smoovious> the VC project files corrupted fix
13:32:15  * Smoovious uses VC
13:32:21  <KUDr_wrk> it was in gui branch only
13:32:56  <Smoovious> that's ok... whatever branch, it would have affected me if I decided to use it... so yay!
13:33:05  <KUDr_wrk> ok
13:33:06  <Smoovious> now just shut up and take your kudos like a man :P
13:33:16  <Smoovious> :D
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13:34:15  <peter1138> :p
13:35:42  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8954 /trunk/src/ (depot.h rail_map.h waypoint.h): -Codechange: remove direct map accesses from non-map-accessor headers.
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14:03:39  <peter1138> moo
14:09:32  <Belugas> hello in there
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16:28:21  <lolman> oh noes
16:29:37  <Sacro> oh noeeeeees
16:29:41  * Sacro has no internt at home :(
16:29:59  <lolman> Oh :(
16:32:27  <Sacro> so moving hosue tommorow
16:32:40  <Sacro> theres a really hawt lass in the room next door
16:33:05  <lolman> Lucky for some
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16:35:33  <lolman> Mind you...being in Hull she'll have 3 kids and 2 divorces by now...
16:35:43  <Sacro> :o
16:35:49  <Sacro> she looks... 18
16:35:56  <Sacro> maybe 19
16:36:00  <lolman> She'll be 14 then
16:36:04  * Sacro hunts down her contact information
16:36:10  <Sacro> lolman: thats fine, its Hull
16:36:19  <lolman> LOL true
16:38:12  <Darkvater> hmm this new GRF error handling maedhros put in is annoying
16:38:32  <Darkvater> New Road Depot and Stations: Fatal: designed to be used with (undefined string)
16:38:38  <Darkvater> ... now that's helpful
16:39:00  <Darkvater> and the text overflows
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16:40:55  <Sacro> :o TEST DRIVE UNLIMITED ON USENET :D
16:41:06  <lolman> Bah, arcade trash :P
16:41:24  <Sacro> well, we'll see
16:41:30  <Sacro> i loved Test Drive 2 - The Duel
16:42:02  <lolman> I grabbed Supreme Commander off usenet last Saturday
16:42:33  <Sacro> ahh, i keep meaning to get that
16:42:40  <Sacro> i'll be usenet'ing again from tommroow night
16:42:46  <lolman> Awesome ganem that
16:42:47  <Sacro> pulling 750kB/s
16:42:48  <lolman> game*
16:42:55  * lolman pulls 1200KB/s
16:43:03  * HMage doesn't pull
16:43:06  <Sacro> :
16:43:07  <Sacro> o
16:43:11  <Sacro> thats impressive
16:43:40  <lolman> That's just from the FTP server that's used as a dumping ground
16:43:47  <Sacro> ah right
16:44:05  <lolman> The actual usenet downloads are at 7500KB/s :P
16:44:30  <Sacro> ouch
16:44:36  <Sacro> im only on an 8Mbit line
16:44:42  <lolman> lol
16:44:57  <lolman> I'm on 10Mbit here, the server is on a 100Mb
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16:45:09  <Sacro> i dont think you can get more than 8 in Hull
16:45:11  <Sacro> lack of BT
16:45:19  <Sacro> grrr, nzbmatrix is broekd
16:45:34  <lolman> Hehe
16:45:46  * lolman uses a different indexing site
16:45:51  <Sacro> what do you use?
16:45:56  <lolman> newzbin
16:46:28  <Sacro> doesnt accept paypal :(
16:46:46  <lolman> Ouch
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16:49:04  <Sacro> yeah
16:49:09  <Sacro> nzbmatrix is good though
16:53:30  <Belugas> hello Tron
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17:03:24  <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=542679#542679 << what trains are these?
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17:17:11  <Sacro> lolman: think im gonna go home and play some nascar
17:20:51  <peter1138> Darkvater: nars probably
17:21:54  <Prof_Frink> glx: eh? glx: np :)
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17:42:57  <Darkvater> peter1138: yes, but which one exactly? You don't know?
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17:47:16  <Darkvater> ah 2-10-2 santa fe
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18:24:14  <Wolf01> hello
18:25:27  <Digitalfox> hi
18:25:45  <Digitalfox> Anyone here uses GRFMaker?
18:25:54  * Sacro has been known to
18:26:17  <Digitalfox> I was looking for a link to download GRFMaker, but since i found no link and read that the author prefer a PM for a download, i send him a PM.. But i found Szappy last post, was in jun 2006, so i guess hes not around anymore or only from time to time.. Could anyone give me a copy of GRFMaker
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18:29:07  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8955 /trunk/src/newgrf_config.cpp: -Fix: crash on loading savegames with GRFs that do not have their GRF info/name set.
18:29:54  <UnderBuilder> the debian package of ottd 0.5.0 isn't ready or there is something bad?
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18:31:19  <Sacro> Digitalfox: ask Aeiger
18:31:24  <Sacro> Aeiger evne
18:31:27  <Sacro> h,,
18:31:34  <glx> Aegir meybe?
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18:31:51  <Sacro> glx: yes! thats the one
18:33:26  <UnderBuilder> also for what processors is i686? for 64 bits ones?
18:33:39  <Twardes> Hi I asked before but i haven't solve my problem. Can U tell me why I cant see polish charcters in 0.5.0 version?
18:33:48  <glx> UnderBuilder: i686 is 32bits
18:34:03  <Twardes> in 0.4.8 everything was allright
18:34:09  <UnderBuilder> so what difference is between i686 and i386?
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18:34:17  <glx> Twardes: set fonts in openttd.cfg
18:34:19  <UnderBuilder> ah now understand
18:34:33  <UnderBuilder> pentium series right?
18:34:43  <glx> i586 is pentium
18:34:54  <UnderBuilder> so i686?
18:35:04  <Twardes> glx: could you tell me how to  do it?
18:35:14  <Digitalfox> ok thanks
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18:36:05  <Eddi|zuHause3> UnderBuilder: each processor generation has improved command sets for their machine language
18:36:19  <Eddi|zuHause3> e.g. a i386 build cannot use MMX functions
18:36:40  <glx> Twardes: open openttd.cfg with an editor, and put a font (name or path to font file) in *_font lines
18:37:31  <Eddi|zuHause3> and afaik the first pentium was 486, just with builtin math coprocessor
18:37:38  <Eddi|zuHause3> or something like that
18:37:45  <UnderBuilder> :( there is no debian package of ottd .5.0
18:37:58  <glx> Eddi|zuHause3: pentium 1 was i586
18:38:05  <Twardes> glx: I understand but which font should I chose
18:38:35  <Twardes> which font files you mean?
18:38:45  <glx> arial should work
18:39:13  <glx> you'll just need to find the font you prefer :)
18:40:40  <Twardes> glx: :) it works thank YOU very much!!!!
18:41:10  <Twardes> glx: one more question...
18:42:08  <Twardes> You may know which font is the most similar to the default one
18:42:11  <Twardes> ?
18:42:37  <glx> I use tahoma bold
18:43:13  <glx> in size 7,9 and 16
18:43:40  <Twardes> :) ok I'll try...
18:43:50  <Twardes> Thanks again
18:44:41  <Twardes> bye everyone!
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18:46:11  <Eddi|zuHause3> UnderBuilder: in general, an x686 build should be better optimized than an x386 build, but that definitely depends a lot on the compiler
18:52:07  <dihedral> great work guy
18:52:17  <dihedral> on 050 final
18:52:45  <Sacro> i686 is p2 and k7 onwards
18:52:56  <Sacro> i586 is p1, and K6
18:53:18  <Sacro> 64 bit is x86_64
18:53:21  <Sacro> or amd64
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18:57:04  <lolman> Hrm, I know my new way of getting my IRC fix :P
19:02:07  <Sacro> oh?
19:02:23  <Sacro> im hanging round at work, using theirs
19:03:40  <UnderBuilder> is there a guide for compiling ottd on debian? because in the wiki I only found info about gcc, not more
19:04:01  <Sacro> UnderBuilder: err...
19:04:07  * Sacro is confused
19:04:12  <Sacro> ./configure && make
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19:04:35  <UnderBuilder> I need that because there is not debian package :x
19:04:58  <Sacro> blathijs: PING
19:05:02  <Sacro> oops :\ caps
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19:06:33  <UnderBuilder> Makefile:201: *** You need to have SDL installed in order to run OpenTTD on UNIX [...]
19:06:59  <UnderBuilder> what sdl packages I need?
19:07:06  <Bjarni> the main one
19:07:07  <Rubidium> libsdl-dev
19:07:12  <Sacro> oh noes, its Bjarni
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19:07:45  <Sacro> and it stil is
19:07:56  <Bjarni> it sure is
19:08:14  <Bjarni> spelling as a regular Hull citizen as well :P
19:08:49  <Eddi|zuHause3> 70% of all people cannot spell their mother language correctly
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19:09:21  <Sacro> oh yes
19:09:30  <Sacro> my mother language is English
19:09:34  <Eddi|zuHause3> i can't either, since the spelling reform...
19:10:30  <lolman> Luckily, the other 30% make up rest of the world (other than the ever-breeding Hullians)
19:10:53  <Sacro> :o
19:10:58  <Sacro> Hullites actually
19:11:00  <Sacro> and im not
19:11:05  <Sacro> im a Beverlonian
19:11:15  <lolman> Oh, you're from Beverley?
19:12:08  <Sacro> yes
19:12:14  <lolman> Just as bad
19:12:17  <Sacro> :o
19:12:20  <lolman> It's still in Humberside
19:12:22  <Sacro> like fook it is
19:12:28  <Sacro> HUMBERSIDE DOES NOT EXIST
19:12:33  <lolman> LOL!
19:12:42  <Sacro> and hasn't for 10 years, 11 months
19:12:45  <lolman> That's what I get from my mam too, I say it's denial
19:12:52  <Sacro> noope
19:12:56  <Sacro> its East Yorkshire
19:13:18  <lolman> Nah
19:13:28  <Sacro> yup
19:14:11  <lolman> Calling Humberside East Yorkshire is like calling Lancashire Far West Yorkshire, it's not gonna happen
19:14:31  <Sacro> errr...
19:14:40  <lolman> (For me)
19:14:44  <Sacro> LANCASHIRE IS NOT YORKSHIRE AND NEVER WILL BE
19:14:50  <Sacro> WHITE ROSE FTW
19:14:58  <lolman> =D
19:17:29  <lolman> BTW: my dad is from Lancashire, my mam is from North Ferriby :P
19:17:50  <Sacro> all Humberside was was a merging of East Yorkshire and North + North East Lincs
19:17:57  <Sacro> ouch, thats a nasty match
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19:18:07  <Sacro> North Ferriby is alright though
19:18:44  <blathijs> Sacro: pong
19:19:07  <Sacro> blathijs: UnderBuilder was enquiring about debian packages
19:19:42  <blathijs> Sacro: this weekend
19:20:00  <Sacro> blathijs: ah right, also there are others on the forum wanting one for Ubuntu
19:29:36  <UnderBuilder> well my openttd is running now but a question, where are saved the configurations in debian?
19:30:33  <Sacro> ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg ?
19:31:38  <UnderBuilder> nope
19:31:51  <lolman> "locate openttd.cfg"
19:32:52  <Rubidium> UnderBuilder: you made it yourself I presume?
19:33:26  <Rubidium> if so, how did you make it?
19:33:28  <blathijs> UnderBuilder: did you use the debian packaging files?
19:34:39  <blathijs> if so, it should use ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg
19:34:54  <blathijs> anyway
19:34:59  <blathijs> I'm off to bed
19:35:06  <blathijs> good luck and good night :-)
19:35:16  <lolman> Night blathijs
19:36:16  <UnderBuilder> I compiled it
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19:36:37  <UnderBuilder> I compiled it by ./configure && make
19:36:50  <Sacro> w00t
19:37:14  <blathijs> UnderBuilder: then config file is stored in current directory or the directory where the binary is
19:37:53  <blathijs> UnderBuilder: From 0.5 sources, you can do "ln -s os/debian" to setup the debian dir and then run dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us -rfakeroot to build a .deb
19:37:56  <blathijs> but, I was gone
19:38:02  <UnderBuilder> I want to restore the 0.5.0 RC5 openttd.cfg into my compiled 0.5
19:42:18  <Sacro> right, going home, back tommorow
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20:10:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r8956 /trunk/docs/landscape.html:
20:10:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Documentation : complete reference of m6 usage is now available.
20:10:53  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: A few little cleanups here and there.
20:12:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8957 /trunk/src/lang/ (25 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:12:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-03-01 21:03:45
20:12:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: afrikaans - 69 fixed, 24 changed by TrueTenacity (93)
20:12:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: american - 1 fixed by WhiteRabbit (1)
20:12:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 14 fixed, 9 changed by tucalipe (11), fukumori (12)
20:12:52  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 13 fixed by arnaullv (13)
20:12:54  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 13 fixed by Hadez (13)
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21:24:59  <Darkvater> blathijs: ping.. openttd-0.5.0 deb?
21:25:59  <glx> [20:19:17] <Sacro> blathijs: UnderBuilder was enquiring about debian packages
21:25:59  <glx> [20:19:52] <blathijs> Sacro: this weekend
21:26:18  <Darkvater> bah
21:26:34  <Darkvater> it's not like it takes a whole day to make the deb :/
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21:28:09  <Darkvater> hmm whereis this auslandw.grf for download
21:28:11  <Darkvater> can't find it :(
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21:49:52  <Belugas> night boyz
21:51:46  <Wolf01> night Belugas
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21:58:45  <RichK67> ping Darkvater
22:02:38  <Darkvater> nice jumping
22:03:15  <RichK67> yeah... i got confused, and closed the wrong window a few times ;)
22:03:18  <Darkvater> RichK67: I tested transfer and it's good. All I ask is that you document the 'transfer credit' thing on the wiki as that might be confusing to people. For everything else I refer to celestar
22:04:01  <RichK67> great - you like it?  to me it just has that "hmm...those values feel right" feeling
22:04:21  <Darkvater> no, I liked it...although got negative total cost every time Itested ;p
22:04:35  <Darkvater> but that's cause the transfer was further away than the destination ^^
22:04:45  <RichK67> good test
22:05:11  <RichK67> a fun one is to fly a cargo from one end of the map to the other, and then transfer it 5 tiles by road :)
22:05:27  <RichK67> amazingly it often makes a big profit for the truck
22:05:55  <RichK67> cos it thinks the truck has taken the cargo x tiles at 500mph
22:06:54  <Darkvater> he
22:07:29  <RichK67> and of course the truck has picked up the transfer credits too ... so its quite a big payment
22:12:47  <RichK67> permission to ask Celestar for final pre-commit checks?
22:13:24  <Darkvater> yes
22:13:39  <RichK67> woohoo :)
22:13:58  <XeryusTC> hmm, this inverted guy is part of the OTTD team now?
22:14:23  <RichK67> so i can edit the wiki and remove all these "transfers dont really work" statements :)
22:14:28  <Darkvater> :)
22:16:00  <Rubidium> XeryusTC: not that I know about and why would you think he is?
22:16:41  <XeryusTC> because he made a post on the forums somewhere which was written as if he was part of the OTTD team
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22:48:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8958 /branches/cpp_gui/ (10 files in 4 dirs):
22:48:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [cpp_gui] -Add: Widget can now capture specified gui events
22:48:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD:  -Codechange: Button now releases itself and generates EvtClick event when mouse button is released
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23:08:32  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8959 /branches/32bpp/src/sprite_cache.cpp:
23:08:32  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [32bpp] -Fix: give sprite_cache.cpp the same dynamic stuff as spritecache.cpp
23:08:32  <CIA-1> OpenTTD:  in trunk (which on his turn is spriteloader8.cpp in this branch).
23:08:32  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: This decreases the .bss (and with the the AS) from 1.3GiB to a few kiB ;)
23:10:37  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8960 /branches/32bpp/src/spriteloader8.cpp: [32bpp] -Fix: sycned spriteloader8.cpp with spritecache.cpp from trunk
23:12:51  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8961 /branches/32bpp/src/debug.h: [32bpp] -Fix: missed a sync somewhere along the line on debug.h
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23:24:23  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8962 /branches/32bpp/ (113 files in 12 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r8896:8961 from trunk.
23:34:30  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8963 /branches/cpp_gui/src/window.cpp: [cpp_gui] -Fix: g++ 3.4.2 warning: 'w' might be used uninitialized in this function (glx)
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23:37:07  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8964 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: use grf_load_string to read action 8 strings instead of trying to do the same manually.
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23:45:07  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8965 /branches/32bpp/src/spriteloader32.cpp: [32bpp] -Fix: allow compiling without PNG support. This makes loading 32bit gfx impossible!
23:52:15  <Eddi|zuHause3> that's for dedicated server use i presume

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