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00:03:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:03:53 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AFED7.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 00:09:22 <Eddi|zuHause> gesundheit 00:09:59 <ccfreak2k> Who made the lovely ASCII diagram for DrawBox()? 00:15:46 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:12 <ccfreak2k> Excellent. 00:16:18 <ccfreak2k> I fixed the opengl patch. :3 00:16:28 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 00:20:12 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 00:31:00 <Chrill> the BR 'HST', which train IS that? :p 00:31:44 <Chrill> from the br trainset 00:32:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7662A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77841.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:35:18 <ccfreak2k> I would say the HST. 00:42:34 *** davis- [~asd@p5B28BCDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 00:47:34 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: poop] 00:57:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:58:54 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 01:12:53 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad103ca.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: Annoying things to do at a discount store #72: Sample all the fragrances in the perfume department.] 01:36:49 *** bleepy [bleepy@90.209.3.202] has joined #openttd 02:00:46 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet617.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:16:42 * Sacro installs TortoiseHG and VisualHG 02:26:32 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:31:24 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:38:59 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:02:33 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180065183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:34 *** elmex [~elmex@e180069006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:38 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:36:15 <ccfreak2k> Quick sanity check: 03:36:31 <ccfreak2k> openttdtest/trunk/src/rev.cpp says it's Autogenerated. 03:36:37 <ccfreak2k> Should I distribute it with a patch? 04:30:03 *** Jezral [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 04:37:03 <ccfreak2k> Blah. 04:37:11 <ccfreak2k> Opengl patch is still broken. :| 04:37:27 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:54 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:21 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:07:33 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 05:07:35 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:36 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 05:16:31 *** eQualizer|dada [~lauri@87.94.117.196] has joined #openttd 05:18:19 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn196-117.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:02:08 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:02:09 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 06:08:05 *** Tekky_ [~chatzilla@p5493DB9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:14:44 *** Tekky [~chatzilla@p5493E78D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:49:27 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:06:28 *** fonso [~fonso@brln-d9bace32.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:27:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D114.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:40:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:48:33 *** letto [~letto@86.120.67.238] has joined #openttd 09:04:32 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:44 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:15:41 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:15:49 *** Mortal is now known as Guest1858 09:15:49 *** mortal` is now known as mortal 09:17:22 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 09:20:59 *** Guest1858 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:35 *** Tekky_ [~chatzilla@p5493DB9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.2/2008091620]] 09:29:41 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:33:42 <Wolf01> hello 09:36:33 <Alberth> hello 09:40:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C6B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:41:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe3a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:08 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 10:03:30 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:31:22 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-74-178.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 10:33:23 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:51:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80FB9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84372.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:53:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:57:08 *** yorick is now known as Guest1880 10:57:09 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:02:03 *** Guest1880 [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:14 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 11:17:14 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:04 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:32:35 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.182.64.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:00 *** hnsz2002 [~hnsz2002@78-131-51-121.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 11:36:07 <hnsz2002> hi! why not available rss feeds on new website? 11:37:30 <TrueBrain> is it does do be 11:38:31 <hnsz2002> i dont see that... 11:38:33 *** davis- [~asd@p5B2883E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:38:43 <TrueBrain> most real browsers show it next to the url 11:38:53 <TrueBrain> http://www.openttd.org/news/rss 11:38:55 <TrueBrain> else use that link 11:39:21 <hnsz2002> wow.. thank you! 11:39:51 <petererer> That was a bit rapid... an industry disappeared 3 days after the news message :o 11:40:11 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:40:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-152-7.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:42:00 <petererer> Hmm, Celestar's vehicle detail scrollbar is screwed :o 11:46:18 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37DE57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:56 * Wolf01 is thinking about mouse gestures for ottd 11:49:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:55:29 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:59:52 <Alberth> 'advanced settings' re-organized: http://b.imagehost.org/0818/configpatches.png 12:04:14 <frosch123> "max distance from edge for oil refinieries" -> "economy" tab after "Industries of same type can be..." ? 12:04:42 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 12:07:00 <frosch123> "disable electric rails" after "allow building very long bridges" ? 12:07:02 <Alberth> maybe instead move all those build things in economy to construction instead? 12:07:49 <frosch123> IMO "construction" referts to player initiated building, while "economy" is town or industry initiated 12:08:21 <Alberth> elrail moved 12:09:18 <frosch123> "road vehicle queueing" could also be under pathfinder stuff... 12:09:53 <Alberth> ok, moving distance oil refineries too 12:11:07 * frosch123 wonders where to put "vehicles never expire" and "multiple newgrf engine..." 12:11:08 <Alberth> yes, that would be better, I didn't really like its current place 12:11:29 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:11:46 <frosch123> maybe "never expire" after "disable servicing when breakdowns..." 12:12:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 12:13:07 <frosch123> "allow more realisically sized catchment..." maybe after "max station spread" ? 12:14:01 <Alberth> 'never expire' doesn't really fit in 'servicing' imho 12:14:49 <Alberth> catchement area moving seems like a good idea 12:16:05 <Alberth> new orders are 'non-stop' by default should get a new place now 12:16:44 <frosch123> in the loading stuff? 12:17:25 <Alberth> 'vehicles never expire' to the top of vehicles? 12:17:43 <frosch123> "allow roadstops on town owned roads" maybe a bit earlier, e.g. after "adjacent stations" ? 12:18:20 <Alberth> good idea, moving never expire to loading stuff (bottom) 12:18:44 <frosch123> hmm, the "non-stop" thingie fits to the "allow depot orders" stuff 12:18:52 <Eddi|zuHause> <petererer> That was a bit rapid... an industry disappeared 3 days after the news message :o <- i'd blame Belugas ;) 12:19:57 * frosch123 has no idea about the "interface" tab 12:22:28 <Alberth> "allow roadstops on town owned roads" one up, after 'nonuniform stations'? ('nonuniform stations' and 'adjacent stations' belong together imho) 12:22:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "allow more realisically sized catchment..." <- i think that is misnamed, it has absolutely nothing to do with realism 12:23:11 *** fonso [~fonso@brln-d9bace32.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 12:23:14 <Gekz> lol 12:23:22 <Gekz> logical perhaps 12:23:23 <Gekz> realistic no 12:23:28 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:23:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:23:58 <Alberth> frosch123: I have lost the 'non-stop' thingie. What option is that exactly? 12:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause> "more diverse" pherhaps? 12:25:42 <Alberth> How does onw change the words of strings? (such that Translator people will catch it too?) 12:25:42 *** tvdburgt [~thvdburgt@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:20 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:27:12 <Alberth> frosch123: nvm, found it. it's the "new orders are 'non-stop' by default" 12:27:51 <Eddi|zuHause> translated strings are automatically invalidated when the english string changes 12:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause> at least i hope so :p 12:29:08 <Alberth> I'd like to be sure before changing texts 12:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... there might be too little new things in colonization... 12:29:20 *** Nazcafan [~fou@vau06-2-82-238-190-59.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:22 <Nazcafan> hello 12:29:56 <Alberth> hai 12:30:04 <Eddi|zuHause> the overall game complexity seems lower than in bts 12:30:14 <Alberth> bts? 12:30:18 <Nazcafan> A couple of months ago, someone help me to setup my openttd.cfg so I could use true type fonts 12:30:22 <Eddi|zuHause> beyond the sword 12:30:56 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: euh, ok 12:30:56 <Nazcafan> but now, I seems that when I ask to use Bitstream Vera Sans, all the text becomes illegible 12:31:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean you had all the ressource management, and religions, and corporations, lots of diplomacy options 12:31:51 <frosch123> Alberth: changing texts should be separated 12:31:55 <Nazcafan> Did something change in openttd? 12:32:51 <Alberth> frosch123: in what sense? as a seperate issue, as a seperate .diff file, or something else? 12:33:18 <frosch123> separate diff 12:33:19 <Alberth> (i have 3-5 .diff files anyway for this change) 12:33:37 <Alberth> ok 12:34:46 <Nazcafan> here is the faulty openttd.cfg : http://rafb.net/p/Uj7Vlv15.html 12:34:55 <Nazcafan> if someone con have a peek at it 12:35:10 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:13 <Nazcafan> I use a debian lenny box and the bitstream fonts are indeed installed 12:36:56 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37DE57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:20 *** James_013 [~James_013@90.219.104.147] has joined #openttd 12:38:32 <James_013> hey people 12:40:32 *** James_013 [~James_013@90.219.104.147] has quit [] 12:40:47 <frosch123> :) 12:42:12 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:42:12 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:28 <Alberth> frosch123: Some people always seem to be in a hurry :) 12:43:45 <Nazcafan> :-/ 12:44:09 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:00 <Alberth> Nazcafan: Didn't even know you could do that in OpenTTD, let alone I can tell you how 12:56:35 <frosch123> Nazcafan: have you tried putting the value in " quotes? 13:00:40 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:03 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: I found the number things to manage in original CIV already quite high, and usually it gets worse with newer versions 13:01:38 <Nazcafan> frosch123: I'll try that 13:02:07 <Nazcafan> frosch123: sorry, I was out to throw some garbage 13:02:12 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-163-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:02:32 <Eddi|zuHause> what seems to be cool in colonization is the automatisation of trade 13:02:47 <Eddi|zuHause> and the new way of getting founding fathers is quite interesting 13:03:06 <Nazcafan> frosch123: nope, fonts are still illegible 13:03:45 <Eddi|zuHause> most other things are pretty much the same as in the original 13:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> the promotion system is taken over from civ4 13:05:34 <Nazcafan> frosch123: the font seems to be recognised, since wen I put a nonexistent font name, I get a warning and openttd sets back to the default font 13:07:30 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has joined #openttd 13:16:51 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: 'allow more realistically sized catchment areas' -> 'more diverse catchment areas' ? doesn't sound right to me, to be honest 13:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> well, all it does is "do not make all stations have the same catchment area" 14:33:35 *** SpComb [terom@194.197.235.145] has joined #openttd 14:36:26 *** mortal`` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:16 *** Sacro|SSL [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:38:52 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:42:00 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:50:56 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 14:57:48 *** murray__ is now known as murray 15:02:52 *** Dr_AFKyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0F9F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:27 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0F410.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:12 *** Phantasm [ghost@hack.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:39 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 15:27:47 *** Sacro|SSL is now known as Sacro 15:29:33 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-74-178.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:45 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:45:45 *** Euro_swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:46:00 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:12 *** Euro_swallow is now known as Swallow 16:05:45 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:34 *** Sacro|SSL [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:15:12 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:15:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:17:48 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27:04 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:33 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:35:49 *** avdg [~ubuntu@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 16:42:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 16:50:24 *** Dr_AFKyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0F9F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 17:07:51 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485EE99.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r14407 /trunk/src/autoreplace_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup (r14406): Remove a redundant test. (thanks SmatZ) 17:11:01 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm81.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DB7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:20 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggstry 17:25:53 <petererer> Speaking of autoreplace. 17:26:30 <petererer> If it can't happen, due to things like not enough money, it would be helpful if it wasn't actually attempted. 17:29:05 <frosch123> you mean some cost-under-estimating precheck? 17:30:26 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-22.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 17:40:20 <petererer> Actually just a simple check for the minimum amount as per the patch setting. 17:40:51 <petererer> I had it set to £100,000, with only half that amount in the bank. 17:41:05 <petererer> It still sent RVs to the depot. 17:41:19 <frosch123> that won't work, when you replace a not too old expensive engine with a cheap one, you will gain money, so the money limit does not take effect 17:41:42 <fonso> after the do { ... } loop starting in viewport.cpp:1138 psd doesn't point to ps anymore. Is that on purpose? This means we are bubbling a different sprite than we compare in the next for() iteration, doesn't it? 17:42:19 <frosch123> or are you talking about fs#1762 again? 17:46:02 <fonso> My idea to solving FS#119 would be changing the sorting algorithm so that we can always partition the vector into a sorted and an unsorted part and then presorting the whole thing by type of sprite, so that foundations end up in the front to begin with. 17:46:37 <fonso> After that they are only moved when there is a specific reason to do so. 17:47:08 <fonso> Ah well, difficult to explain ... 17:47:53 <frosch123> fonso: that is already the case, ViewportAddLandscape() is called before ViewportAddVehicles() 17:48:35 <fonso> Aha 17:49:19 <fonso> But bubble sort can mix them up too easily. 17:49:32 <frosch123> it is not bubble sort 17:49:56 <frosch123> bubble sort is an algorithm for transitive orders 17:49:57 <fonso> It says it is in line 1136 and it looks like it is 17:50:38 <fonso> you compare a sprite to all following ones and then subsequently exchange them until it arrives at the correct postion. 17:50:41 <frosch123> 1336 btw 17:50:53 <fonso> yes 17:50:54 <frosch123> and I somehow forgot to remove this misleading comment 17:50:54 <fonso> sorry 17:51:18 <fonso> so what is it supposed to be? 17:52:06 <frosch123> it moves ps2 in front of ps1 17:52:35 <fonso> A different algorithm might be able to sort them by "hard" criterions seen in the if-clauses before but at the same time not move unrelated sprites around 17:52:57 <frosch123> it does not move unrelated sprites around 17:52:59 <fonso> Thus keeping more of the original order intact for soft criteria 17:53:44 <fonso> It looks like it does in the do { ...} loop 17:53:59 <fonso> especially with psd3 not pointing to ps 17:54:21 <fonso> (and I'm wondering why that works at all) 17:54:55 <frosch123> the do loop moves all sprites starting from ps to ps2 one position further to create space to insert ps2 in front of ps 17:55:24 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 17:56:07 <fonso> and after that psd points to the sprite at *(ps + 1) 17:56:58 <frosch123> no psd is unchanged 17:57:03 <frosch123> in fact it points at ps2 17:58:19 <frosch123> you can consider psd as the separator between sprites in their final order and sprites which are still being sorted 17:58:28 <fonso> ah, OK 17:58:32 <fonso> now I see it 17:58:38 <fonso> sorry for my ignorance 17:58:53 <frosch123> blame the comment :) 17:59:21 <fonso> so it tends to sort things to the front of the array 17:59:37 <frosch123> yup 17:59:43 <fonso> is the array drawn from the front to the back or the other way round? 18:00:22 <frosch123> hehe, "front" and "back" are kind of ambiguous here :) 18:00:36 <frosch123> but the sprite at index 0 is drawn first 18:01:24 <fonso> orudge: have you tried to sort everything in the other direction? I suspect the sprites at low indices are more mixed up wrt the original order than sprites at high indices. 18:01:48 <fonso> But I have to leave now, sorry. 18:01:50 <fonso> Bye 18:04:05 <petererer> Well, have you orudge? 18:07:47 <frosch123> fonso: fyi: the fence at the runway causes to plane to be inserted where it ends up 18:08:44 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 18:11:55 *** Zorni [zorn@d137035.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:32 *** Zorn [zorn@g224106253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:15 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:25:28 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 18:26:00 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 18:26:24 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:32:50 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g230134081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:38:40 *** fonso [~fonso@brln-d9bace32.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 18:40:16 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224046.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:16 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:45:11 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:45:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:49:29 <dih> anybody here familiar with tcl by any chance? 18:50:16 <TrueBrain> dih: I doubt anyone wants to publicly say yes to that ;) 18:50:28 <dih> nonofair 18:50:39 <dih> they can pm me :-P 18:50:43 <dih> hihi 18:53:35 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B84372.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: It's like, wah.] 19:03:03 <petererer> "openttdlib.dihedral.de could not be found" :o 19:03:37 <dih> yep 19:03:38 <dih> i know 19:03:42 <dih> have a dns issue right now 19:03:49 <dih> what can i do you for? 19:04:13 <petererer> I wanted to have a play with autopilot. 19:04:43 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:04:49 <petererer> ARGH 19:05:02 * petererer gets pissed off with audio software that keeps crashing. 19:05:05 <dih> autopilot is not at openttdlib.dihedral.de 19:05:23 <dih> autopilot or ap+ ? 19:05:47 <dih> petererer, ^ 19:06:08 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:08:18 <petererer> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=openttd+autopilot 19:08:44 <dih> that's odd 19:08:48 <dih> oh - no it's not 19:08:49 <dih> hehe 19:09:19 <dih> ap + is at http://svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/autopilot/branches/ap+ 19:09:32 <dih> and autopilot is at http://svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/autopilot/trunk 19:10:48 <petererer> Ta 19:11:15 <dih> ap+ documentation is at http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autopilot/ap%2B 19:12:59 <petererer> Gah, DJPlay sucks. 19:13:19 <petererer> Choosing tracks to play seems to be directory-structure only. 19:13:24 <petererer> There's no previewing... 19:13:58 <petererer> Just 5 audio outputs that need mixing. 19:20:41 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: :brb] 19:21:13 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:35:46 *** Sacro|SSL is now known as Sacro 19:38:16 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet607.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:18 <Eddi|zuHause> this is bad... these other guys declared war, and now i overran them with my 5 guy army... and now i have twice the amount of colonies to get to 50%, and i have to defend twice the amount of colonies also... 19:43:05 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 19:45:04 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 19:57:10 <TrueBrain> the latest stargate atlantis is VRY good ... :) :) 19:57:11 <TrueBrain> VERY 19:57:22 <Eddi|zuHause> right... i knew i forgot something :p 19:57:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the "half" final, right? 19:57:43 <TrueBrain> yeah, wanted to remind you 19:57:48 <TrueBrain> I didn't hear you about it so .. 19:58:03 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:18 <TrueBrain> half final? 19:59:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:43 <Eddi|zuHause> they used to have a break in the middle of the season, i.e. after 10 episodes 19:59:56 <TrueBrain> just read that it is cancelled .. but not till January, pfew :) 20:00:31 <Eddi|zuHause> well, yes, they won't order a new season, but this season still continues... 20:00:45 <TrueBrain> You scared me there :p 20:00:53 <TrueBrain> this is a cliffhanger episode, but in 2 weeks the next one is.. 20:01:11 <TrueBrain> (wow, bad english) 20:01:35 <petererer> ARGH, FUCKING JACK 20:01:57 <TrueBrain> jack? 20:01:59 <TrueBrain> @seen jac 20:01:59 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen jac. 20:02:01 <TrueBrain> @seen jack 20:02:01 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: jack was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 4 hours, 34 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <jack> they go to depot, when they need 20:02:40 *** letto [~letto@86.120.67.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:07 <TrueBrain> haha, that was kind of unexpected :) 20:03:19 <frosch123> fucking -> depot 20:03:21 <frosch123> obvious :) 20:05:31 <peter1138> jackd 20:05:39 <TrueBrain> I never understood jackd 20:05:40 <TrueBrain> never ever ... 20:13:39 <peter1138> Well, I do ;) 20:13:56 <peter1138> Just it has a habit of kick clients out randomly. 20:14:00 <peter1138> *kicking 20:14:19 <Eddi|zuHause> btw they also said that they were going to continue SGA the as DVD movies like they did with SG-1 20:14:33 <Eddi|zuHause> -the 20:22:45 <fjb> Why do 4500 people want to visit a 350 people town? 20:24:08 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I read :) Too bad the movie is the end of the season final ... 20:24:20 <TrueBrain> fjb: because they are looking for houses 20:24:46 <fjb> Ah, good cause. 20:24:55 <fjb> That explains it perfectly. 20:26:49 <Ammler> fjb: many tourists village are like that 20:27:12 <fjb> But there isn't even a hotel... 20:27:20 <Ammler> :-) 20:27:46 <frosch123> fjb: canibals :) 20:28:19 <fjb> :-P 20:29:11 <fjb> The hidden indistry of PBI. 20:29:16 <fjb> industry 20:31:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C6B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:35 <fjb> http://www.imgwelt.de/uploads/DIIFUKN42P0.png 20:37:06 * petererer grumbles at industries closing down when they're being serviced. 20:37:42 <fjb> Georges ECS? 20:37:48 <petererer> PBI. 20:37:54 <fjb> Oh. 20:38:33 <fjb> Didn't happen to me with PBI, but often with ECS. 20:49:46 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-coding 20:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause> so... where do i get a big enough army to protect 13 colonies from the home country? 20:52:17 <frosch123> is "independance" still the only winning goal? and can it be disabled? 20:54:39 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: cheat some tanks 20:55:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i think there were three options at winning goal 20:55:30 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, you could disable them, like in civ4 20:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: great idea, why did i not think of that? 20:55:50 <Ammler> :P 20:56:00 <Ammler> fjb: that is strange, indeed. 20:57:46 <fjb> I bet the town council hired that people to get a railway station. 20:58:31 <Ammler> you should keep that for celestart/peter 20:58:43 <Ammler> I consider that as bug. 21:01:38 <fjb> Maybe they only piled up because only to busses are serving that town. 21:04:04 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D114.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> damn... i capture a few colonies, transport the raw materials to my central town, and suddenly the industrial production goes off the charts... my galleon can hardly handle the cargo now... 21:09:00 <fjb> Now that town has 4 busses circling there and a railway station. Almost more vehicles tham houses... 21:09:19 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: What are you playing? 21:09:26 <Eddi|zuHause> colonization 21:09:43 <Ammler> oh 21:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> or rather "Civilization IV: Colonization" 21:10:18 <Ammler> colonization was also nice 21:10:43 <fjb> Is that a Civ IV addon? 21:11:01 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's standalone, using the Civ IV engine 21:11:52 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... "Merlin 2008"... is that worth watching? 21:11:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has left #openttd [] 21:13:08 <Ammler> how was the KITT btw 21:13:10 <Ammler> ? 21:13:23 <Ammler> was it that cool as the original? 21:13:30 <Rubidium> fancier than the original 21:13:45 * Rubidium would like the 3000 model, not the 2000 model 21:13:59 <petererer> Gah, there it goes again :o 21:14:14 <Ammler> sorry 21:14:31 <Ammler> I just read you talked about, but couldn't read it... 21:14:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not quite sure how i find knight rider yet... the story line seemed a bit overloaded 21:26:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe3a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:10 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: we will see with the second episode :) 21:27:22 <TrueBrain> oeh, there is a new Merlin 21:32:42 <Ammler> nice titles <oldserie> <year> 21:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's been going like this for years already 21:40:15 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BA729.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:41:51 <Ammler> Battlestar Galactica was first, or was there another? 21:45:03 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 21:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76002.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> wtf was that... 21:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> my computer is inventing more and more different ways to crash without any apparent reason 21:48:34 <FauxFaux> It wants you to replace it with something expensive. 21:50:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77841.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:51:32 <ln> Eddi|zuHause2: get a mac 21:51:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> doesn't save me from mysterious hardware failures 21:52:09 <ln> no, but it's Crash Different 22:01:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C6B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever 22:04:00 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:42 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:10:43 <ln> nw: prison break 4x02 22:15:52 *** Ben_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:16:25 <SmatZ> my car 'died' today ... I had to be towed... I hope it won't cost much to fix it :( 22:18:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> you get a problem when the cost for towing alone surpasses the worth of the car ;) 22:18:22 <SmatZ> hehe :) 22:18:28 <SmatZ> my father towed me 22:18:36 <Nite_Owl> did it make a dead car noise or just go quietly 22:19:11 <SmatZ> but the black smoke going out of the exhaust doesn't sign anything good 22:19:19 <SmatZ> rather quietly 22:19:41 <SmatZ> it's a diesel... I though the 'turbo' died but it was doing smoke even at 1k rpm... 22:19:46 <SmatZ> after a while 22:19:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14408 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix (r9205): generation seed set using -G was always overwritten by -g 22:21:01 <Nite_Owl> Quietly can be better. At least you know nothing broke loose inside the engine. 22:23:29 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:32 <Wolf01> 'night 22:23:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:24:02 <SmatZ> good night all 22:25:06 <Nite_Owl> Although the last time my car died it went quietly and the alternator burned out taking all of the major engine wiring with it. Cost a fortune to fix due to the sideways mounting of the engine. - L8r SmatZ. 22:30:37 <dih> @seen Brianetta 22:30:37 <DorpsGek> dih: Brianetta was last seen in #openttd 23 hours, 10 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <Brianetta> Since it doesn't exist yet, the performance of its stereo is... wanting. 22:36:30 *** Ben_ is now known as Sacro 22:40:32 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:45:21 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-163-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 22:45:55 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 22:49:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:24 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76002.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:40 <Ammler> he, that was fast: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=39776 <-- any chance for a exception to console commands? 23:00:38 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:01:12 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BA729.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 23:05:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. 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