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09:04:52 *** MapperOG [~MapperOG@p57B2C1A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:04 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:14:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 09:33:21 <petern> TrueBrain, you have scripting language experience... 09:46:00 *** `Fuco`OFF [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 09:48:40 <Alberth> Always nice when people state such things as fact :) 09:49:09 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 09:49:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:19 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:41 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D06C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 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<petern> Looking at Lua but it seems the API is different between 5.0 and 5.1... 10:48:49 <petern> Which is a bit odd. 10:49:15 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 10:49:30 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82C8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:49:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:50:11 <TrueBrain> lua is the first scripting language which can be embedded in an application, without it leaking memory, or using a lot of memory 10:50:18 <TrueBrain> which is amazing :) 10:51:34 <Chrill> pfft 10:51:38 <Chrill> no brianetta's 11:01:49 <petern> Crap, my config is all wrong for 0.6.3... 11:14:32 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:15:40 <TrueBrain> KDE 4.1 has its bugs, so it seems ... 11:15:58 <TrueBrain> My desktop is at 1024x768, while my screen is at 1280x1024 ... 11:16:06 <TrueBrain> pretty annoying ... 11:16:15 <TrueBrain> you can't move most of the widgets, so it seems ... pretty annoying :( 11:16:19 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 11:16:45 <DJNekkid> -1 * 0 00 00 \b1 01 \b*14 1A \b*8503 // BDVmot w/mail This should set the vehicle with ID 14 in front of 8503 ... right? 11:19:13 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CC8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:19:18 <fjb> Hello 11:19:32 <DJNekkid> hi fjb 11:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i found KDE 4 way too unmatured 11:19:51 <Ammler> TrueBrain: still 3.5 here. 11:20:08 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I start to have the same feeling .. 11:20:25 <TrueBrain> whoho, OpenTTD in 1m15, that is a lot faster ... :) 11:20:49 <TrueBrain> I think I will downgrade now, as there are too many bugs ... and just install compiz for the same visual effects :p 11:21:09 <ln> http://englishrussia.com/?p=2081 11:21:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:20 *** `Fuco`OFF [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 11:24:53 <welshdragon> fuco's away nick is kinda offensive 11:26:18 <TrueBrain> Only if you have a REALLY dirty mind ... :s 11:26:26 <welshdragon> which i do 11:27:23 * welshdragon hides 11:27:39 <TrueBrain> which is your problem 11:27:59 <welshdragon> yeah, i know 11:28:14 <welshdragon> i blame my friends 11:28:53 <Chrill> regarding new websitE: I cannot find the old scenarios that could be found there, incl. the Africa scenario? 11:29:39 <Chrill> are these nowhere to be found, or do I simply fail? :P 11:30:34 <Rubidium> http://binaries.openttd.org/scenarios/ ? 11:30:57 <Chrill> thankoo! 11:37:38 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: and aren't they embedded in latest release, you said? 11:39:14 <TrueBrain> idiotic KDE4 ... brr 11:39:27 <TrueBrain> also, idiotic debian, for that matter 11:40:26 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:40:27 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:39 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: old scenarios implies (for me at least) pre 0.5 scenarios 11:41:27 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:41:55 <TrueBrain> k ;) 11:42:03 *** Zorn [zorn@e177225113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:42:27 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:47:14 *** Zorni [zorn@d138240.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 11:51:40 *** Jezral [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 11:51:42 <Chrill> well, Africa is pre 0.5 afaik 11:52:25 <Alberth> Can NETWORK_REVISION_LENGTH be increased? My HG revision text ("h106e41b1M-merge_options") doesn't fit and I get strecpy() messages. 11:53:48 <Rubidium> Alberth: no 11:54:16 <Alberth> k, we should chop off the last part I guess 11:54:27 <Rubidium> strecpy does that 11:54:35 *** Zorn [zorn@e177225113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:09 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:41 <Alberth> but it reports that it is doing that when debug is on, and gives an error (I think, looking at the code) if debug is off. I see little value in that message in this case 11:57:23 <Alberth> I'd prefer that this happens silently 11:59:02 <Rubidium> better this way than the way it was before 12:00:18 <Alberth> definitely! :) 12:01:49 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:12:08 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:12:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B773D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:38 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:27:42 *** Zorni [zorn@d138240.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:18 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 12:30:27 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 12:33:06 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 12:33:40 *** Jezral [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-155-66.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:37:52 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:40:27 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:44:29 *** MapperOG [~MapperOG@p57B2C1A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 12:57:36 *** MapperOG [~MapperOG@p57B2C1A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:21 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:15 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-181.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:18:55 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:19:06 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77252.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:57 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.146.223.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 13:22:18 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:23:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B773D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:07 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:33:16 *** Joni- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-ffa0c100-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:35:30 <Alberth> should we extend the 'difficulty_level' with values from advanced settings? 13:40:30 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5550c003.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:43:24 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5550c003.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 13:46:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but it needs serious reworking of the difficulty system 14:03:36 <Ammler> Alberth: example? 14:04:39 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:05:45 <Alberth> "Allow removal of more town-owned roads, bridges, etc" setting influences difficulty of the game imho 14:06:02 <Phantasm> Yes and no. 14:06:54 <Phantasm> It is more of a realism setting. Depending on how it is interpret... In real life a bit company can do lots of stuff inside a city, as long as it makes everything back to same or better. Of course so that it won't affect too much. 14:07:29 <Alberth> ok, this one then: "Weight multiplier for freight to simulate heavy trains" 14:08:16 <Phantasm> It could actually make things easier.. Given hard enough conditions, no matter how they are done, the AI will never ever survive. Thus, no competition. ;P 14:08:27 <Phantasm> But yea, increasing that does increase difficulity somewhat. 14:09:42 <Alberth> Max number of competitors is already a difficulty setting :) 14:10:10 <Phantasm> Yea, but if you make the conditions so hard, that all AIs just die, it is effectively 0 AIs with 7 set. 14:11:28 <Alberth> I guess we can debate what a difficulty setting is and what not. 14:11:41 <Alberth> (and probably never reach agreement) 14:13:45 <Alberth> I was moving the difficulty window to a page in the advanced setting window, and have some trouble deciding where to put the difficulty buttons (easy, medium, hard, custom). 14:17:00 <Sacro> http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/electiontrains.jpg 14:20:32 <Swallow> I think most of the current difficulty settings can either be removed or moved to one of the existing advanced settings pages 14:23:52 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:56 <Alberth> Moving the difficulty settings is the easy part (although it creates some havoc in the language files). I guess we should keep the difficulty levels, so I need to make room for them in the advanced settings window. Also the high score button needs a new place. 14:24:14 <Rubidium> almost all settings (that are stored in the savegame) influence difficulty 14:24:28 <Alberth> I'd agree 14:24:39 <Rubidium> even the size of the map 14:25:15 <Alberth> so you want to have a larger set of settings controlled by the difficulty_level? 14:26:52 <Rubidium> most of the settings are of the boolean kind, so what is easy, medium and hard? 14:27:09 <Rubidium> why really bother anyway? 14:27:37 <Phantasm> Well, there could be a difficulity number.. With every thing contributing to it. 14:27:43 <Phantasm> Instead of 3 fixed difficulities. 14:28:21 <Rubidium> those should be seen as merely defaults for the "noobs" 14:28:37 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:29:27 <Alberth> one could eg do 'false' for the first two difficulty levels, and 'true' for the third setting. 14:29:54 <Rubidium> but what is difficult? 14:30:03 <Rubidium> take for example gradual loading 14:30:07 <Rubidium> what setting is most easy? 14:31:24 <Alberth> I was typing that 'difficulty' is highly ambigious :) , so indeed it makes no sense imho to spend a large amount of time to it or attempt to fold everything into a single number. 14:33:15 <Alberth> Phantasm: Maybe we should give the player the remains of the AI when it goes bankrupt ,including its debt. Now that would make things difficult :D 14:33:25 <Phantasm> Alberth: Haha. 14:33:26 <Rubidium> gradual loading CANNOT be classified with: true = easy, false = hard, because true and false are both easy and hard (depending on the vehicle length, loading amounts etc) 14:35:43 <Swallow> In any case, I think it's impossible to accurately measure difficulty as NewGRFs can influence it in almost any way. 14:37:35 <Alberth> Rubidium: We cannot even agree on how we should play the game (which is good, imho), so a single 'difficulty' concept just won't do. Expanding it a bit is useless due to ambiguity of the concept, as you said. Expanding it a lot is very much work, and not really useful even if it is possible. 14:37:58 <Alberth> Aka: leave it as it is 14:41:01 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 14:42:55 *** Joni_- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-ffa0c100-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:43:00 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:22 <Swallow> In an ideal world I'd merge everything to the advanced settings window and add a preset system like NewGRF presets 14:43:41 <Swallow> With a few pre-supplied presets for easy/medium/hard 14:44:27 <yorick> you mean we don't have newgrf presets currently? 14:45:01 <Swallow> I mean a preset system, similar to newgrf presets, for the advanced settings 14:45:56 *** petern is now known as pnelson 14:46:11 *** orudge is now known as orudge1138 14:46:14 *** orudge1138 is now known as owen1138 14:46:20 *** owen1138 is now known as orudge 14:47:36 *** pnelson is now known as petern 14:47:40 <Ammler> I like that idea, too. 14:49:49 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:50:39 *** Joni- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-ffa0c100-55.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:43 *** khizer [744719a2@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:54:08 <khizer> hi i need some help regarding smallmap_gui 14:56:55 *** khizer [744719a2@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 15:00:02 <Doorslammer> Good for you :P 15:00:14 <Doorslammer> Do come again :D 15:00:39 <yorick> hehe, no toyland servers online 15:01:05 <Doorslammer> Killed the evil at last, yes? 15:01:28 <yorick> only 6,7 % with arctic 15:02:10 <yorick> 8.43% of total amount of clients could be online 15:05:32 <yorick> niceties such as cindini should be forbidden 15:14:26 <petern> Who what? 15:15:26 <Alberth> petern: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39819 15:15:59 <petern> I know what it is, but, forbidden? 15:16:10 <yorick> too nice 15:18:27 <Alberth> you cannot start a transport service in it, it would mess up the scene too much 15:19:48 <yorick> even letting it run messes up the scene 15:19:52 <yorick> the towns will grow 15:19:58 <yorick> and flatten the landscape 15:20:06 <yorick> and ruin the niceties 15:24:14 <yorick> oops 15:24:21 <yorick> bad idea 15:24:43 * yorick just overwrote nice 64*64 testing save with 2048*2048 cindini map 15:24:49 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5550c003.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:25:42 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:14 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 15:27:15 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> what exactly is so special about this cindini map? 15:29:46 <yorick> it is nice 15:32:03 <Tefad> yorick: http://www.yofrankie.org/ 15:33:03 <yorick> spam detected 15:33:44 <Tefad> hmm indeed. i thought i was in another channel : x 15:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> wtf adds ".doc" files in a forum? 15:41:02 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Brb...Poef!] 15:42:54 <petern> It's not that nice... 15:43:03 <petern> It has some map-bugs too :) 15:43:39 <petern> "New Now Know How" 15:43:45 <petern> w/w :o 15:44:24 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> i never understood what that phrase means 15:44:37 <petern> Who does? 15:46:06 <Ammler> bug like? 15:46:09 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest95 15:46:28 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:30 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:35 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 15:51:13 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 15:52:18 *** Guest95 [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:52:33 *** welshdragon2 [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:52:44 <Ammler> default real name for chatzilla clients 15:52:51 *** welshdragon2 is now known as welshdragon 15:57:40 <petern> Yes, it is. 16:00:12 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-175-184.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 16:01:29 *** snorre [~snorre@cE9F045C1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 16:23:47 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-181.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 16:25:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:47 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:53:32 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 16:55:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd058.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:00:42 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11:20 <Chrill> Sacro 17:11:39 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@5350C1D1.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:11:49 *** Joni_- is now known as Joni- 17:14:35 <Sacro> Chrill? 17:19:00 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-175-184.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:14 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-175-184.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:24:58 <Chrill> Sacro wouldnt know where brianetta is? 17:28:24 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 17:31:48 <SmatZ> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=630000 is this a coincidence? 17:31:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 17:31:58 <glx> it is 17:32:08 <SmatZ> unbelievable :) 17:32:11 <Rubidium> no, I waited till that number ;) 17:32:15 <SmatZ> haha :) 17:33:49 <TrueBrain> idiotic KDE4 .. more bugs than working features ... :( 17:34:02 <FR^2> hehe 17:34:08 <FR^2> That bad? 17:35:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> i found it basically unuseable, because of all the annoyances 17:35:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that was with KDE 4.0, it hopefully improved since then ;) 17:36:16 <TrueBrain> well ... I have 4.1 running here .. 4.1.1 to be exact .. 17:36:25 <TrueBrain> I can't move widgets I put on the desktop .. for unknown reasons 17:36:42 <TrueBrain> it thinks my screen is smaller than it is, so I have the taskbar somewhere in the middle 17:36:52 <TrueBrain> when you click the wrong button, it does weird stuff 17:36:58 <TrueBrain> and it uses a constant of 10% CPU, even if I don't do anything 17:36:59 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: You need more clocks. 17:37:13 <Prof_Frink> plasma is all about clocks. 17:37:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... i immediately went back to KDE 3 for my desktop, and use a few KDE 4 programs 17:38:05 <Sacro> Chrill: not sure, warum? 17:39:13 <Prof_Frink> Wareham? 17:40:18 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: well, I will install KDE3 again too soon .. just it is too bad, as I like a few things of KDE4 (of the kwin part) 17:40:31 <TrueBrain> but okay, I am already sick of Debian too, so I need to burn a Gentoo LiveCD first :p 17:40:48 <Prof_Frink> Gentoo? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... 17:41:04 <TrueBrain> hell yes 17:41:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> when's KDE 4.2 due? 17:41:27 <Prof_Frink> January or so 17:42:11 <TrueBrain> 2009 17:42:17 <TrueBrain> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule 17:43:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> then i might give it another try 17:43:34 <TrueBrain> oh well ... by all :) Is going to take a while to install Gentoo I guess .. by the lack of alternative :p 17:44:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm fine with suse... i don't know what problems people have 17:44:28 <TrueBrain> by = bye 17:44:29 <TrueBrain> lol 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14441 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-10-05 17:45:23 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 6 fixed by arnaullv (6) 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 1 changed by sulai (1) 17:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 fixed, 1 changed by alyr (2) 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: norwegian_bokmal - 6 fixed by christian (6) 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 1 fixed by ww9980 (1) 17:53:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CC8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:06:46 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:09:21 <TrueBrain> wow, KDE3 works so much better ... 18:09:47 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5550c003.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 18:16:33 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:16:51 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... in which config file do settings like the prefered shell go? 18:28:27 <Rubidium> depends on the flavour of Linux I reckon 18:28:57 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:29:45 <petern> default shell is in /etc/passwd 18:29:56 <petern> er, s/default/user's/ 18:30:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's unlikely that i can change something outside /home/<user> 18:31:56 <petern> chsh 18:32:04 <Prof_Frink> Bless you 18:34:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... that said it couldn't find me in /etc/passwd 18:35:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> i should probably talk to the admins... 18:35:51 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause2: You don't exist. 18:43:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r14442 /trunk/src/autoreplace_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r14406): Typo causing problems in rare cases. 18:45:45 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: no nightly today?> 18:46:16 <SmatZ> nah ok :) 18:46:31 <SmatZ> just #notice is quiet 18:48:13 <frosch123> [20:29] <DorpsGek> CompileFarm: nightly (r14441) completed. <- this time dorpsgek is not to blaim :) 18:48:23 <frosch123> err, blame 18:48:34 <SmatZ> nah 18:48:36 <SmatZ> blame me 18:48:47 <SmatZ> overlooked that one in the translators commit :) 18:48:57 * TrueBrain blames SmatZ 18:49:13 <SmatZ> yeah, good :) 18:49:32 <SmatZ> sorry :( 18:49:49 * petern annotates SmatZ 18:49:53 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 18:50:05 <SmatZ> :-D 18:50:23 * SmatZ praises himself 18:50:35 * Prof_Frink burns #openttd 18:50:52 <Vikthor> SmatZ: PÃœcha pÅedcházà pád :p 18:51:08 <yorick> engliszh only! 18:51:18 <Vikthor> yeah, yeah 18:51:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have not ever heard of a thing called "engliszh" 18:51:54 <ln> Vikthor: BÃzšú ÅŸowùm vûxelt. 18:52:14 <TrueBrain> so tempting .. 18:52:30 <Prof_Frink> !cnffjbeq 18:52:32 <TrueBrain> anyhow .. I can now connect my HDTV via HDMI to my computer .. now that is useful shit :) 18:52:59 <TrueBrain> and I have 240 GiB of data to move from one PC to the other .... maybe I just shouldn't do it, and boot up the old machine when ever I need it .. 18:53:07 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet601.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 18:53:15 <TrueBrain> @kick Prof_Frink yes, we will kick you 18:53:15 *** Prof_Frink was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [yes, we will kick you] 18:53:22 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad38369.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:53:26 <TrueBrain> some people are so demanding these days 18:53:53 <Prof_Frink> You could at least have rot13d the kick message 18:55:08 <petern> hmm, 2GB of space used... 18:55:23 * petern shall put off getting big drives 18:56:13 *** Dr_AFKyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E562.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 18:56:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> TrueBrain: isn't it faster to just put the whole HD in the new computer? 18:57:45 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause2: faster, yes; useful? no .. as I would never clean it up and just continue messing it up :)\ 18:58:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh, i know that problem ;) 18:58:38 <TrueBrain> hmm .. how on linux to get a screen to a secondary monitor .. hmm ... 18:58:40 <TrueBrain> tough one ;) 18:59:06 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:27 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-175-184.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:29 <TrueBrain> something for an other day .. good night all! 19:02:59 <SmatZ> nn TrueBrain 19:21:59 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:09 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet601.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.215.232] has joined #openttd 19:33:10 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 19:36:56 *** MapperOG [~MapperOG@p57B2DBC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:16 *** Zorni [zorn@e177228120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:46:35 *** Zorn [zorn@e177228120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:06 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet601.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:56:13 <petern> http://www.xs4all.nl/~weegen/eelis/analogliterals.xhtml 19:56:56 <Prof_Frink> Y'what, eh? 19:59:16 * frosch123 always liked unary numbers 19:59:29 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BA41D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:00:01 *** FR^2 [fr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: N8] 20:00:02 <SmatZ> nice :) 20:00:14 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:00:24 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:03:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah... right... i always needed this, and never even knew it :p 20:05:45 *** herojoker [~herojoker@p5088992E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:05:51 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 20:05:58 <herojoker> hi 20:07:16 <herojoker> are there any good introductions for getting to know the variety of NewGRFs? 20:07:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd058.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:17 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:08:47 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:48 <herojoker> for example a text which describes the most popular ones and perhaps additionally some personal tips etc. 20:11:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:32 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.146.223.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:42 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:39 <Wolf01> 'night 20:29:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:39:40 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 20:39:47 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet601.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:08 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:59:59 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> herojoker: best you get the grfpack from openttdcoop, there should be a readme in it 21:06:36 <herojoker> ok, thank you :) 21:06:56 <herojoker> the mass of grfs is a bit overwhelming ^^ 21:07:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, you could just join a server using newgrfs, they should have a sensible subset of the collection enabled ;) 21:07:55 <herojoker> especially because it's not always direclty visible whether it's a replacer or addon 21:31:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:44 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:36:50 *** Zorni [zorn@e177228120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:56 *** Zorn [zorn@e177229039.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:41 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. 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