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00:00:18 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:00:37 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 00:02:47 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:01 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4eb:69e1:ab99:94b1] has quit [Quit: bye] 00:08:29 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-81-193.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:08:51 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 00:09:11 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.21.139.64] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc2] 00:10:03 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-58-175.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:41 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:58 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:13:27 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-58-175.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:13:39 *** Elton08643 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 00:21:26 *** Elton08643 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:38 *** Elton04675 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 00:32:12 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:32:15 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32:18 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 00:36:13 *** Elton04675 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:41 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:33 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 00:57:47 *** Elton05919 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 00:59:20 *** Elton05919 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59:56 *** Dragoon_Jett [~JohnGalt@d67-193-154-52.home3.cgocable.net] has quit [Quit: RAGE QUIT FUCKERS] 01:01:10 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 01:10:29 *** Elton05163 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 01:23:11 *** Elton05163 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:17 *** DPyro [ad4a9c0c@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 01:32:56 *** DPyro [ad4a9c0c@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:34:02 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 01:35:37 *** Elton00880 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 01:37:15 *** Elton00880 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38:21 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:57:28 *** _0x90u [~00x90u@17-117.232.popsite.net] has joined #openttd 01:59:32 <_0x90u> Hey. Does anyone know what the licensing for OpenTTD is? Can't seem to find it on the wiki. 02:01:56 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 02:05:22 <Tefad> is it not gpl? 02:05:58 <Tefad> _0x90u: click about on the main website 02:06:37 <_0x90u> second question: is there currently an ipod/iphone port? 02:21:23 <_0x90u> Tefad: found it btw. GNU General Public License version 2.0 02:21:33 <Tefad> yes. on the about page 02:21:55 <_0x90u> Thanks for telling me now xD 02:22:23 <Tefad> what is the 2nd thing i said 02:22:52 <_0x90u> I'm on 24Kbps internet =/ 02:23:13 <Tefad> irc rarely goes above 100bps . . . 02:23:22 <Tefad> at least for this channel 02:24:25 <_0x90u> lol 02:32:05 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-81-193.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:05 *** Elton04653 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 02:40:08 *** Elton04653 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:37 *** Elton09385 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 03:02:43 *** Elton09385 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08:17 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:50 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:19:46 *** Elton02687 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 03:20:10 *** Elton02687 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:39:07 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:45 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:58:45 *** _0x90u [~00x90u@17-117.232.popsite.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:58:53 *** _0x90u [~00x90u@04-175.232.popsite.net] has joined #openttd 04:09:51 *** Elton01474 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 04:16:23 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.250] has joined #openttd 04:19:29 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.204.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:19:48 *** Elton01474 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24:33 *** Elton07707 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 04:24:44 *** Elton07707 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24:55 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.204.193] has joined #openttd 04:33:50 *** Elton08743 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 04:37:25 *** Elton08743 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:41:11 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:41:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:42:44 *** Elton09860 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 04:42:54 *** Elton09860 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:45:15 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.204.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:51:28 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.204.193] has joined #openttd 05:07:37 *** Elton02586 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:13:49 *** Elton02586 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:14:40 *** Elton09314 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:18:02 *** Elton09314 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:27:12 *** Elton06440 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:31:53 *** Elton06440 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34:37 *** Elton06999 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:39:06 *** Elton06999 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39:42 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0F144.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:39:50 <DaleStan> planetmaker: Can you come up with any other tests for make install's directory? I currently intuit one of three different values on Windowsy systems, and one value for absolutely-everything-else. 05:40:03 <DaleStan> Maybe this is just Windows being Windows. 05:47:19 *** Elton09783 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:48:41 *** Elton09783 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:51:24 *** Elton00890 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 05:55:43 *** Elton00890 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:21 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:02:55 *** Elton09494 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 06:03:25 <DaleStan> Elton09494: Please quit the join/part flooding. 06:04:22 *** Elton09494 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:26 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:45 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:07:13 *** Elton05236 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 06:07:19 <DaleStan> Elton05236: Please quit the join/part flooding. 06:08:04 <LadyHawk> if the guy's connection didn't suck, he might be able to 06:08:43 *** Elton05236 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:49 <DaleStan> He could stop rejoining, and then he wouldn't keep falling back off. 06:11:34 *** Elton09952 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 06:24:33 *** Elton09952 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28:45 *** Elton04144 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 06:36:07 *** Elton04144 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:16 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 06:51:30 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:02 <planetmaker> DaleStan: there should be access to the env variables like SERPATH% (or similar, I don't have it at hand right now) - which could give you a localization and configuration independent path for windows 07:12:28 <planetmaker> hm... the % U got eaten 07:13:06 <planetmaker> but a destinction between windows and other OS needs to be made somehow. 07:20:22 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:45 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:52 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 07:28:31 <Ammler> morning guys 07:28:42 <Ammler> :-o bored Rubidium 07:29:08 <planetmaker> :-) 07:29:21 <planetmaker> quite productively bored IMO :-) 07:29:33 <planetmaker> morning all, morning Ammler 07:30:20 <Ammler> now, we need to moe the pure white warnings to error log 07:30:27 <Ammler> move* 07:36:39 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.250] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:26 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:41:40 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:41:42 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 07:44:09 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:44:37 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44:56 <dihedral> good morning 07:44:58 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:47:55 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has left #openttd [] 07:52:28 <Alberth> good morning dihedral 08:02:21 <planetmaker> some pure white warnings remain 08:03:49 <Ammler> yes, but they should appear in the error log, so it would be more verbose. 08:07:18 *** _0x90u [~00x90u@04-175.232.popsite.net] has quit [] 08:16:42 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25647 <- hehe - what a mean typo in the nick name :-P 08:17:22 <Markk> He's a Swede too o/ 08:28:45 <Rubidium> dihedral: you got a PPC mac, right? 08:29:01 <dihedral> yes 08:29:30 <Rubidium> do http://rbijker.net/openttd/grfcodec-custom-r2170.zip and http://rbijker.net/openttd/nforenum-custom-r2169.zip work for you? 08:29:34 <dihedral> i dont have it here at work though - i can get hold of it again around 18.00 CEST 08:29:59 <dihedral> but i'll give it a shot then 08:31:25 <dihedral> anything specific to look out for? or just running? 08:31:56 <Rubidium> well, it's to check whether the compile farm can make binaries of those for PPC that work 08:31:57 <dihedral> eh.... great last sentence ^^ 08:32:06 <dihedral> ok 08:32:18 <dihedral> i'll do that when i am home 08:40:39 <planetmaker> Rubidium, thanks for all those graphics fixes :-) 08:41:24 <planetmaker> concerning the pcx dependency, I'll have to see how to teach my mac to like it, too 08:41:40 <planetmaker> somehow the sed syntax seems to differ... 08:42:35 <Rubidium> ghehe ;) 08:42:49 <Rubidium> get a proper sed 08:42:59 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59:52 <TrueBrain> what a boring day .. what a boring day .. 09:00:22 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: you should ask those guy of OpenGFX about boring days ;) 09:01:07 <TrueBrain> guys of OpenGFX: I wamt to ask you about boring days 09:01:11 <TrueBrain> (why?) 09:01:36 <Rubidium> oh, I had a boring evening 09:02:33 <TrueBrain> what did you do this time? :p 09:03:13 <dihedral> TrueBrain, looks like that subconsciousness test of mine did not work 09:03:17 <dihedral> :-P 09:03:34 <TrueBrain> you did what now? 09:03:53 <planetmaker> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/352#change-934 resp. https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/activity <-- TrueBrain 09:04:21 <TrueBrain> S L O W W W w w w 09:05:15 <dihedral> uh - i did not know Rubidium participated in opengfx :) 09:05:29 <Sacro> brickset? 09:05:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> <planetmaker> hm... the % U got eaten <- try doubling the % 09:05:47 <dihedral> oh yeah - that was a piece of beauty, Sacro 09:07:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:09:27 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: why is the credit list in reversed order?! 09:10:21 <Rubidium> because Ammler doesn't like to be on top (of that list) 09:10:32 <TrueBrain> and now it looks like Zephyris is more important 09:10:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17050 /trunk/src/newgrf_station.cpp: -Codechange: replace custom implementation of TILE_LOOP with TILE_LOOP. 09:10:46 <TrueBrain> the idea of alphabetical order is to give the impression they are all equal .. reversing it kind of undos that 09:10:55 <Sacro> a thing of beauty is a joy forever 09:12:54 <Ammler> TrueBrain: it is Zephyris' set, the style which some like, some don't 09:14:20 <planetmaker> Mainly Rubidium is right, though ;-) 09:14:43 * planetmaker hides 09:15:32 <dihedral> hehe 09:15:44 <dihedral> oh the joys ^^ 09:17:25 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 09:20:19 <dihedral> planetmaker, https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/54 <- personally i'd not advise on that ;) it'll give you more troubble than it's worth 09:21:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:03 <TrueBrain> Ammler: even the more reason to re-reverse that list 09:36:04 *** Groggy [~Groggy@gw-song.borenet.se] has joined #openttd 09:36:24 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.192.189] has joined #openttd 09:39:33 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@32-144-8.connect.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 09:40:12 <OsteHovel^PDA> Im sitting here in a resturant in Norway and a track that is in OpenTTD or atlest it listened the same was playing ;D 09:49:29 <Ammler> track? 09:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause> a sound track... 09:53:23 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 09:54:05 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:02:07 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm83.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:02:15 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-178.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #openttd 10:05:11 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 10:08:29 <Groggy> can you run a game with only AI's? 10:09:29 <TrueBrain> yup 10:09:43 <TrueBrain> (btw, plural of AI is AIs, not AI's) 10:09:55 <Groggy> yeah you are right 10:10:03 <Groggy> but how do you do it? 10:10:22 <TrueBrain> start a dedicated server and don't join the game, while AIs are active (in multiplayer) 10:10:33 <Groggy> ah 10:10:44 <TrueBrain> and in singleplayer you can do the same 10:10:50 <TrueBrain> just then there is 1 company which is owned by you 10:10:58 <TrueBrain> just don't do anything, and you still have a game with only AI 10:10:59 <TrueBrain> s 10:11:48 <Groggy> but won't the singelplayer game end when I don't have any money left? 10:12:09 <TrueBrain> you have a few good years before that happens :) 10:12:18 <TrueBrain> even then the game continues 10:12:18 <Sacro> AI's is vaguely valid 10:12:45 <Groggy> ok 10:12:47 <Groggy> thanks 10:13:00 <TrueBrain> np; just try a bit and you will find out yourself what happens :) 10:13:10 <Alberth> Groggy: to prevent ending, set up a simple line that just makes a profit. 10:13:23 <TrueBrain> Alberth: then it no longer is AIs only ;) 10:13:37 <TrueBrain> in SP you can't go bankrupt, so I don't see the problem anyway ;) 10:13:51 <Groggy> ah 10:14:04 <Groggy> I thought I could go bankrupt 10:14:11 <Groggy> then are there no problem 10:14:37 <TrueBrain> you get a popup, you click no, you continue :p 10:14:40 <TrueBrain> or was it yes .. 10:14:43 <TrueBrain> haven't seen that dialog in ages :p 10:14:58 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: you haven't played in ages, so that's not fair 10:15:14 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you want to say it is no longer true? :) 10:15:14 <Groggy> I just read and presses the right button 10:15:42 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: no, I've not played in ages (or rather, I've not gone bankrupt) 10:17:11 <Alberth> we should add a new disaster for such players: "tax scandal: president is forced to resign" :p 10:17:44 <Sacro> "President is spotted getting blowjob - impeached" 10:18:12 <TrueBrain> you should get promoted in that case, Sacro 10:18:21 <TrueBrain> "President still gots it!" 10:18:27 <Alberth> could be a nice side effect when spotted bribing the city :) 10:18:57 <Eddi|zuHause> err... 10:19:03 <Sacro> TrueBrain: didn't happen for Bill though 10:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> disturbing image alert! 10:19:34 <TrueBrain> he was married 10:19:55 <Rubidium> "President spotted on the Apalachian trail" 10:21:00 <Eddi|zuHause> even after all those years, the late night talkshows are still full of bill and hillary jokes 10:21:09 <Eddi|zuHause> especially during the election campaign 10:22:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker: maybe http://rbijker.net/openttd/silence-grfcodec-non-warnings.diff is useful for the "compile farm" for OGFX; makes the logs more useful 10:24:03 <Eddi|zuHause> is it me or is it very cold today? 10:24:26 <Rubidium> yes 10:24:35 <TrueBrain> I love such answers :) 10:24:37 <TrueBrain> completely useless 10:24:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i love it, too 10:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i very often answer that way :) 10:25:11 <TrueBrain> we had a foreign person over yesterday 10:25:16 <TrueBrain> and he closed every sentence with: you know? 10:25:20 <TrueBrain> we kept on replying with: no 10:25:22 <TrueBrain> he got annoyed 10:25:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B839A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:25:37 <Rubidium> nice, mkay 10:27:03 *** Groggy [~Groggy@gw-song.borenet.se] has quit [] 10:27:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80013.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:29:15 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:27 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@90.241.7.217] has joined #openttd 10:34:13 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34:29 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 10:35:39 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:39:32 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.121.65] has joined #openttd 10:42:47 *** OsteHovel^PDA [~OsteHovel@32-144-8.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:57 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm83.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:51:04 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-95.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:52:21 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:52:25 *** Mark is now known as Guest350 10:52:25 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 10:52:35 *** Default_ [~quassel@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 90 seconds.] 10:52:45 *** Default_ [~quassel@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 10:52:46 *** Guest350 [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52:47 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm83.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:53:33 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53:37 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 11:00:00 <Ammler> Rubidium: I like the patch, what about redirect warnings to stderr? 11:07:12 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-95.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:10:25 <Rubidium> Ammler: you couldn't code that yourself? That's trivial: http://rbijker.net/openttd/grfcodec-warnings-to-stderr.diff 11:12:41 <Ammler> :-) thanks 11:13:27 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:30 *** Xeryus|bnc [~XeryusTC@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish] 11:14:00 <Ammler> I thought, there is a reason, those warnings are on stdout. 11:14:22 <TrueBrain> again, having such moment? :p 11:14:56 <Ammler> well, it might be easier to ask, when I don't have such moments :-P 11:15:25 <Rubidium> when you're 'the late Ammler'? 11:15:52 <Ammler> hmm, truebrain means something else. 11:16:05 <Ammler> (I guess) 11:16:19 <TrueBrain> you know what I refer to ;) 11:16:41 <Ammler> anyway I will use those patches on the server. 11:16:59 *** SmatZ- [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:16 *** Xeryus|bnc [~XeryusTC@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 11:19:58 <Ammler> I guess, I see, why they aren't piped to stderr 11:20:11 <Ammler> you don't see which pcx is meant 11:20:14 *** tneo [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:36 *** tneo [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 11:21:53 <Alberth> then the pcx name should be part of the warning imho 11:22:16 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 11:22:28 <TrueBrain> dihedral: fix your VPS! :p 11:22:36 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 11:23:00 <Ammler> maybe, that is what he does right now :-) 11:24:56 <Rubidium> Ammler: the pcx was never shown 11:25:04 <Ammler> hmm 11:25:05 <Rubidium> you get the sprite number though 11:25:18 <Rubidium> and with that you can grep the .nfo and get the file AND the exact location 11:26:44 <Ammler> maybe I should generate just one file and grep it for warnings and errors 11:28:06 <Ammler> the issue is just on opengfx, else you have one grf, only. 11:28:44 <Alberth> until you run a number of conversions in batch 11:28:59 <Ammler> conversions like? 11:29:44 <Alberth> suppose I have several grf sources, and build them all in one run. 11:31:17 <Alberth> (ie I think an error/warning should give you enough indication to find the point of the error in the orginal source without further trickery with files, grep, etc) 11:32:12 <Ammler> yeah, that might be the reason, grfcodec trunk doesn't pipe it to stderr 11:34:22 <Alberth> BAD grfcodec. However, programs originating from DOS tend to do that. Such programs also tend to output useless copyright and progress text :p 11:34:56 <planetmaker> :-D 11:35:18 <Alberth> (so the errors are nicely hidden in all the other output) 11:36:45 <Alberth> (and using the program in a pipe is not possible :( ) 11:37:26 <Rubidium> anyhow... you can 'easily' get the filename of the pcx, but the information about the location within the pcx seems already lost at that place 11:38:58 <Ammler> well, you need to check the nfo anyway 11:39:13 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40:46 <Ammler> so it would suffice if you know at least the nfo and maybe the pcx. 11:41:56 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:42:50 <Ammler> but that might also be the task of the Makefile 11:43:59 <Alberth> Ammler: I really like what you are doing with "AI Battle Royale". 11:44:08 <Ammler> me? 11:45:29 <Alberth> oh, sorry, I mean Roujin 11:51:39 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:52:11 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:52:13 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52:15 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 11:54:39 *** Noldo_ [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 11:55:09 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 11:56:14 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:56:18 *** Mark is now known as Guest352 11:56:18 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 11:56:32 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:10 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:37 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:50 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 11:58:51 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:56 *** Guest352 [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:19 *** Cybert1nus is now known as Cybertinus 12:07:37 <dihedral> <TrueBrain> dihedral: fix your VPS! :p <- nothing i could control 12:09:05 <TrueBrain> sure sure :p 12:09:09 <dihedral> pffft ^^ 12:09:31 <blathijs> dihedral: Make other people fix it then :-p 12:09:40 <blathijs> Optionally by paying them more money 12:10:05 <dihedral> you can ditch that thought ;-) 12:11:00 <blathijs> :-) 12:13:34 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:27 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host81-153-202-57.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:19:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.242] has joined #openttd 12:19:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20:13 * OwenS puzzles why OpenVPN refuses to create a tap devic 12:20:15 <OwenS> e 12:24:10 <dihedral> http://www.xkcd.com/606/ 12:24:37 <dihedral> OwenS, check for a tun device :-P 12:24:58 <OwenS> dihedral: It's configured for tap mode. And no virtual devices whatsoever 12:25:19 <dihedral> in early openvpn times i had to create the device myself with mknod 12:25:40 <dihedral> i do assume here you are running a linux os 12:25:49 <OwenS> The malfunctioning end I am :p 12:25:59 <OwenS> The working fine end is Solaris 12:26:47 <OwenS> Mon Aug 3 08:26:14 2009 us=565884 TLS Error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur within 60 seconds (check your network connectivity) <-- =S 12:27:39 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8438:e9a:d564:b148] has joined #openttd 12:27:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... today's xkcd reminds me of last week's robot chicken... 12:35:53 <Eddi|zuHause> they also had an armageddon parody there 12:37:05 <OwenS> http://www.xkcd.com/609/ is my favorite 12:41:08 <dihedral> OwenS, and you are using the same version on both ends? 12:46:55 <Belugas> hello 12:47:24 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host81-153-202-57.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:45 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:50:45 *** tdev [~tdev@ip-62-178.emscb.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:51:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:01:07 <Ammler> nice forum signature, dihedral :-) 13:10:43 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:33 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C163.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:46 *** Elton04592 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openttd 13:24:21 *** sunkan [~sunkan@c-4f66aa6f-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined #openttd 13:24:46 *** Elton04592 [~Delphi@201008145180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:33:29 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.192.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:34:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.179.242] has joined #openttd 13:35:05 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:06 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:37:33 *** Tussengas [~Tussy@82-170-238-254.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:21 *** sunkan [~sunkan@c-4f66aa6f-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 13:41:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:11 *** Tussengas [~Tussy@82-170-238-254.ip.telfort.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:47:26 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-131-58-175.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:16 *** [1]Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:51:20 *** Mark is now known as Guest361 13:51:20 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 13:53:00 *** Guest361 [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:09 *** Donyc [51089908@widget.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:54:57 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDFE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:59 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:16 *** Donyc [51089908@widget.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:59:17 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:02:36 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 14:03:09 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause> this is weird... i have two tv recordings of the same movie, 1 day apart, same channel 14:03:26 <Eddi|zuHause> both are 4:3 letterbox 14:03:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but they are completely differently cropped 14:04:33 <goodger> conspiracy 14:08:13 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:15 <Sacro> ls 14:08:16 <Sacro> erm 14:08:19 <Sacro> *hides* 14:08:27 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:51 <Rubidium> :O Sacro playing hide'n'seek with Exl? 14:09:00 <Eddi|zuHause> this directory is empty. 14:09:17 *** Lord [~Lord@88-111-212-127.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:09:42 <Lord> hi 14:10:21 *** Lord [~Lord@88-111-212-127.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 14:10:38 <Rubidium> bye 14:11:10 <Belugas> Lord has spoken! 14:11:25 <Belugas> quite a dynamic ip indeed 14:12:28 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-153-11-168.range86-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:17:53 *** [1]GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 14:19:22 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:20:56 <TrueBrain> I think he said enough 14:23:06 <Eddi|zuHause> more than the people who just join and quit without saying anything? :p 14:23:24 <TrueBrain> very true 14:23:49 *** GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:42 *** [1]GregVernon is now known as GregVernon 14:36:50 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17051 /trunk/src/ (company_cmd.cpp graph_gui.cpp): -Codechange: make the graph legend window use nested widgets 14:45:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17052 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move state changes out of OnPaint for the graph windows 14:49:59 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 14:50:50 *** GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:23 *** GregVernon [~Greg@user-0c9aat3.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 14:58:44 *** adam_vollrath [~adam@66-169-84-002.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com] has joined #openttd 14:58:55 <adam_vollrath> Good morning. 14:59:03 <DorpsGek> hello 14:59:31 <adam_vollrath> I'd like to do some simple development: Create a new list of town names. How much work would this be to set up? 14:59:47 <TrueBrain> depends on your C++ skills, I say 15:00:03 <Eddi|zuHause> town name generators are done via newgrf 15:00:11 <TrueBrain> they are? 15:00:18 <Eddi|zuHause> there are examples for that out there 15:00:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, they are 15:00:27 <adam_vollrath> I haven't yet found an example. 15:00:50 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 15:00:52 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: then what does namegen.cpp do? 15:01:02 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: old stuff 15:01:16 <DaleStan> adam_vollrath: Google for 'ustowns' or 'ustownset', I think. 15:01:23 <Alberth> town directory window should contain an example 15:01:23 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: the problem with cpp name generators is that you cannot replace them 15:01:38 *** Pygma [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has joined #openttd 15:01:50 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I am not complaining, just wondering when someone would convert them to grfs 15:01:50 <DaleStan> So, actually, that doesn't work. Nevermind. 15:02:08 <adam_vollrath> Where would I look to get started with NewGRF development in general? 15:02:26 <Eddi|zuHause> wiki.ttdpatch.net 15:02:28 <DaleStan> wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 15:02:30 <adam_vollrath> And if anyone can point me to an example source for a town name NewGRF, that'd be v helpful. 15:03:16 <Ammler> adam_vollrath: glx dev space 15:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause> afair there was the conversion of the french town names as example... not sure 15:03:19 <glx> adam_vollrath: http://devs.openttd.org/~glx/townname/ 15:03:38 <glx> conversion of openttd generators into newgrf 15:03:40 <DaleStan> Also, http://as-st.com/ttd/newusa/files/ustowns.zip (decode the GRF.) 15:04:21 <Ammler> french town names does use real names 15:04:35 <Ammler> just randomize a big list 15:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause> using a list of real names is probably the easiest 15:04:56 <glx> TrueBrain: all can be converted (except english I think) 15:05:05 <TrueBrain> glx: why isn't it done yet then? :) 15:05:07 <TrueBrain> (just wondering, really) 15:05:43 <glx> I did 2 of them 15:06:00 <Eddi|zuHause> didn't english have some exceptions for "unsuitable" names? 15:06:02 <Ammler> it would generate new support tickets, where is my town name generator gone? ;-) 15:06:07 <adam_vollrath> Hrm. Are there any NewGRF developers willing to help me replace the town names for a modest PayPal donation? 15:06:33 <TrueBrain> lol, I think he used too many times the Bribe button :) 15:07:41 <Ammler> adam_vollrath: collect everything you have, make a nice tt-forums post and ask there for help. 15:08:37 <Ammler> if the list/design is ready, I am sure, you will find some help. 15:09:00 <adam_vollrath> Can I just replace the strings in this file? http://devs.openttd.org/~glx/townname/austrian.nfo 15:09:00 <adam_vollrath> ^ or do I need to alter the byte offsets there too? 15:09:30 <glx> read the specs 15:09:37 <adam_vollrath> Yeah I can't find the specs. 15:10:00 <TrueBrain> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs 15:10:05 <glx> action 0F 15:13:33 <adam_vollrath> wow this does not look simple. 15:13:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it needs a little reading into... 15:14:55 <adam_vollrath> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ActionF 15:15:11 <adam_vollrath> Do I need to edit all that hex by hand or are there tools to help with this? 15:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> you could try grfmaker, but i don't know if it handles town names 15:15:50 *** Lisby [~l@x1-6-00-17-3f-55-57-df.k467.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:21:03 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host86-145-220-206.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:21:25 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:23:47 <glx> it is very simple (compared to other newgrf actions) 15:24:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17053 /trunk/src/graph_gui.cpp: -Codechange: pass a Rect to DrawGraph so it knows where to draw 15:24:06 <adam_vollrath> I'm gonna poast on the tt-forums about it soon, I think. 15:25:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C163.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17054 /trunk/src/bridge_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Bridge gui uses nested widgets only. 15:29:41 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-148-73-204.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:41 *** OwenSX28AC [~oshepherd@host86-128-12-249.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:33:48 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host86-145-220-206.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:19 *** Elton09507 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has joined #openttd 15:35:28 *** Elton09507 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:25 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0B3F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:15 *** Elton00406 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has joined #openttd 15:38:36 *** Elton00406 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:42 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-148-73-204.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:48 *** OwenSX28AC [~oshepherd@host86-128-12-249.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:37 *** Lisby [~l@x1-6-00-17-3f-55-57-df.k467.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 15:46:30 *** Elton02279 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has joined #openttd 15:52:15 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:19 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 16:01:32 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:31 *** sdafsdf [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:11:44 *** LadyHawk [LadyHawk@78-105-102-180.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:11:51 *** sdafsdf is now known as LadyHawk 16:12:16 *** IndioCabron [~IndioCabr@200.79.144.187.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] has joined #openttd 16:13:02 <IndioCabron> Have you ever suspected that Negroes are actually a transitional variant of Homo Erectus? Source: http://www.erectuswalksamongst.us Sick of niiiggggers and their monkeyshines? Then join us at Chimpout.com! At Chimpout we are not White Supremacists, rather we are Negro Inferiorists. Chimpout.com welcomes the rainbow of diversity that exists amongst humans, welcoming with open arms Asians, White 16:13:03 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~IndioCabr@200.79.144.187.dsl.dyn.telnor.net] by DorpsGek 16:13:03 *** IndioCabron was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [IndioCabron] 16:15:19 <Rubidium> actually I'm sick of you Chimpout spammers... 16:16:57 <keoz> wow 16:18:20 <glx> wow this trigger was not used for a long time 16:19:14 <Rubidium> glx: does the trigger also notify the OFTC admins of the spammer? 16:19:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:30 <glx> no it only commands DorpsGek 16:19:53 <keoz> it's a trigger ? :) 16:20:46 <glx> keoz: how do you think the kickban can be that fast ? 16:21:09 <keoz> oh ... yes. I understood something else 16:21:25 <dihedral> Rubidium, the 2 zip's you asked me to run... 16:21:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffeec.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:21:50 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:22:02 <Rubidium> dihedral: good to know, then I'll add OSX-PPC to the compile farm 16:22:02 <dihedral> i actually never en/decode grf's, etc. 16:22:19 <Rubidium> dihedral: just build ogfx with it ;) 16:22:23 <dihedral> k 16:26:56 *** tdev [~udev@p508EC1CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:18 *** Svish [~Svish@84.20.108.56] has joined #openttd 16:28:46 <adam_vollrath> Thank you to everyone who advised me earlier. I've posted a thread asking for more info on new town names: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=44609&p=807338 16:28:59 *** OwenSX28AC [~oshepherd@host86-129-0-140.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:29:13 <TrueBrain> oh, and my paypal is ... :p 16:29:35 <Rubidium> owen@ ? 16:29:51 <TrueBrain> I was more thinking off my personal one :p 16:30:30 <Alberth> Rubidium: (05:06:27 PM) adam_vollrath: Hrm. Are there any NewGRF developers willing to help me replace the town names for a modest PayPal donation? 16:30:35 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:44 <dihedral> [Generating:] opengfx.obg 16:30:44 <dihedral> [Done] Basegraphics successfully generated. 16:30:48 <dihedral> ^ Rubidium 16:31:54 <Rubidium> splendid 16:32:09 <Eddi|zuHause> wonderful 16:32:11 <Rubidium> so rosetta just sucks ;) 16:32:38 <Eddi|zuHause> that always reminds me of asterix 16:33:21 <Eddi|zuHause> where they join the legion and everyone is disgusted by the food, except the british guy :p 16:33:34 *** Elton02279 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:40 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 16:36:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17055 /trunk/src/bridge_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Improve aligning of bridge sprites and descriptions in bridge gui. 16:37:31 <planetmaker> Rubidium, is that the same binary you gave me? 16:37:44 <planetmaker> (or same build process) 16:37:54 <Rubidium> should be, though you can retest 16:37:55 <Belugas> naaa.. that one has a virus, not yours 16:38:05 <planetmaker> :-D 16:38:25 <Rubidium> Belugas: no, I don't do viri, only keyloggers in Apple keyboards :) 16:38:35 <planetmaker> latest nightly of grfcodec / renum right? 16:38:44 <planetmaker> :-P 16:38:56 <Eddi|zuHause> virii 16:39:00 <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://rbijker.net/openttd/grfcodec-custom-r2171.zip and http://rbijker.net/openttd/nforenum-custom-r2169.zip 16:39:47 <Eddi|zuHause> virates 16:40:20 *** OwenSX28AC [~oshepherd@host86-129-0-140.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:40 <dihedral> viruseses 16:41:35 <Belugas> flu 16:41:43 <TrueBrain> ill 16:41:51 <planetmaker> I must have tested renum :-) The link is differently coloured :-) 16:42:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r17056 /trunk/src/bridge_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Reduce width of the drop-down in the bridge gui. 16:42:57 <Alberth> nah, Rubidium just renamed the binaries 16:43:02 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:45 <Rubidium> planetmaker: well, I've rebuilt them with newer revisions 16:44:28 <planetmaker> well... renum obviously not :-) 16:45:02 <Rubidium> then there wasn't a newer version of that ;) 16:45:13 <planetmaker> ^ :-) 16:50:28 *** Pygma [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:09 <TrueBrain> pff .. 52 languages .. pff .. takes so long :( 17:02:18 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:02:40 <TrueBrain> 80 seconds per language .. pff 17:02:44 <TrueBrain> @calc 80 * 52 / 60 17:02:44 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 69.3333333333 17:02:46 <dihedral> Yexo, \o/ 17:03:17 <Yexo> good evening :) 17:03:35 <dihedral> infedels 17:03:47 <TrueBrain> I KILL YOU! 17:04:19 <dihedral> :-D 17:04:28 <TrueBrain> Jeff Dunham ... briliant guy 17:04:48 <dihedral> uh yeah 17:05:48 <dihedral> i like his "Bubba J" too 17:05:58 <TrueBrain> bounce bounce bounce 17:06:45 <dihedral> "what a tooth" 17:12:31 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 17:22:08 *** Skiddles [~notme@cm83.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:23:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-5-190.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:00 *** Elton05877 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has joined #openttd 17:26:34 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:08 *** Elton05877 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:04 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 17:38:33 *** Elton06494 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has joined #openttd 17:39:43 *** Elton06494 [~Delphi@189.82.137.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:57 *** Markk [~markk@rikskriminalen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17057 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 28 changes by kasakg 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 4 changes by Gavin 17:45:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 12 changes by habell 17:45:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_US - 54 changes by agenthh 17:45:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 9 changes by jpx_ 17:47:13 *** Markk [~markk@rikskriminalen.com] has joined #openttd 17:50:52 <Yexo> :( 17:51:02 <Yexo> when will habell learn to be consistent? 17:51:38 <Yexo> "op ...locatie", but "op de vliegtuiglocatie" <- why use "de" only in that string? 17:52:45 <Alberth> TrueBrain: feature request, allow for peer review of changes 17:53:58 <Rubidium> Alberth: you can already do that 17:54:15 <Alberth> nice! 17:57:31 <dihedral> Alberth, there needs to be an active peer for that :-P 17:58:47 <Alberth> dihedral: that's one of the few short comings of a peer review system indeed. 18:03:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.179.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:35 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:20:09 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:20:29 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@90.241.7.217] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:20:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@90.241.7.217] has joined #openttd 18:23:52 <DaleStan> Why can't POSIX and ISO agree on whether funtion names start with _? 18:24:08 <Rubidium> DaleStan: what do you mean? 18:24:46 <DaleStan> According to MSDN, "isatty: This POSIX function is deprecated beginning in Visual C++ 2005. Use the ISO C++ conformant _isatty instead." 18:25:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:54 <Rubidium> that's more a MS thingy; they have deprecated basically the whole POSIX set of functions 18:25:55 <Alberth> that is not a ISO function, but a MS "ISO C++ conformant" function. 18:25:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:28 <Rubidium> also the C++ specs I've got don't mention isatty 18:26:32 <ddfreyne> didn't MS add a _s to everything anyway? 18:26:45 <Rubidium> ddfreyne: not always 18:26:48 <Alberth> Rubidium: it's a unix library thing 18:26:51 <ddfreyne> gets_s and printf_s and whatever 18:27:25 <DaleStan> But yes, MS does like to add random characters to perfectly ordinary function names. 18:27:49 <Alberth> not to mention put type information in varnames :) 18:28:21 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:48 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:58 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D853.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:03 <fjb> Hello 18:31:26 *** Lisby [~l@x1-6-00-17-3f-55-57-df.k467.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:31:48 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 18:32:52 <ddfreyne> Alberth: hungarian notation comes in two forms... good and bad 18:33:53 <ddfreyne> IMO, "bad" means putting the actual type in there (i for integer, b for boolean, ...) and "good" means not the type but the kind ("m" for member variable, "k" for constant, "a" for argument, ...) 18:33:54 <Rubidium> DaleStan: for what it's worth: "This POSIX function is deprecated beginning in Visual C++ 2005. Use the ISO C++ conformant _access or security-enhanced _access_s instead." (grfcodec uses access) 18:33:56 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 18:36:34 <Rubidium> although I see no difference in the declaration of the function in Linux or the _access function in Windows 18:37:06 <frosch123> ddfreyne: and which of those two forms uses 'p' for pointer, 'r' for reference, 'sp' for smart autopointers, and at the same time 's' for static? 18:37:26 <Rubidium> and sp for static pointers 18:37:45 <ddfreyne> frosch123: bad, probably ;) 18:38:46 <ddfreyne> frosch123: I only introduce hungarian notation in my code when I believe that it is useful... I mostly stick to "a" and "m", which makes the purpose of the variables quite a bit more clear IMHO 18:39:24 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 18:40:05 <ddfreyne> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Wrong.html is a good reference 18:45:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:42 <Alberth> ddfreyne: I used such conventions too for some years, but stopped doing that, too cumbersome and not very useful 18:51:25 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:26 * frosch123 is usually only annoyed about "char* foo;" instead of "char *foo;" 18:51:53 <frosch123> though I still have not figured out whether "const int a = 5" or "int const a = 5" is more correct 18:52:04 <TrueBrain> hmm .. how long did that take to get into OpenTTD developers mind ... to use char * over char* ... 18:52:09 <Alberth> for many years I wrote "char*foo" :) 18:52:51 <Belugas> aString : String; 18:52:52 <Belugas> :P 18:52:59 <TrueBrain> lol @ Belugas :) 18:53:36 <frosch123> well, for sure, pascal's ^ is way better than c's * 18:53:36 <Belugas> ;) 18:53:55 <Belugas> aString : ^String; 18:53:55 <Alberth> aString: String, bString: String, cString: String 18:54:07 <TrueBrain> a#String 18:54:09 <TrueBrain> ghehe 18:54:37 <frosch123> Alberth: s/,/;/g 18:54:41 <Belugas> aString : AnsiChar; 18:54:45 <Rubidium> a NoString branch? 18:54:45 <Xaroth> A string. 18:54:46 <Belugas> buwhahaha! 18:55:02 <frosch123> AnsiChar? AnsiString? 18:57:43 <Belugas> heum... 18:57:44 <Belugas> yeah... 18:57:48 * Belugas hides 18:59:14 <ddfreyne> Alberth: to be honest, I don't code in C much anymore these days, and I have only a small number of hungarian notation conventions I stick to 19:02:40 <Belugas> hooo... frosch123 : "Object Pascal supports single-byte and multibyte characters and strings through the Char, PChar, AnsiChar, PAnsiChar, and AnsiString types." 19:02:44 <Belugas> so.. both! 19:03:00 <frosch123> never used them :) 19:05:15 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE9705.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:55 <frosch123> "I'm using the word kind on purpose, there, because Simonyi mistakenly used the word type in his paper, and generations of programmers misunderstood what he meant." <- lol 19:08:56 <Belugas> no, indeed not 19:10:02 *** Chruker [~no@0x5da34ce4.vjnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:14:48 *** Svish [~Svish@84.20.108.56] has quit [Quit: Quit] 19:18:15 *** DPyro [ad4a9c0c@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:22:57 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:24:11 *** DPyro [ad4a9c0c@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:25:16 <TrueBrain> # Come on come on, lets work together 19:25:38 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 19:25:54 <TrueBrain> sf.net, category Games, top 10, first hit: desktop tool. 4th hit: freeguide tv guide 19:25:55 <TrueBrain> WTF?! 19:26:27 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: you're saying it wrong 19:27:16 <TrueBrain> tg,mfu' dbufhpsz 19:27:18 <TrueBrain> pff, this takes too much work 19:27:20 <Rubidium> and sf.net has improved their non-usefulness one again 19:27:39 <TrueBrain> well, sf.net now looks AWESOME! 19:27:41 <TrueBrain> yet it sucks 19:27:42 <TrueBrain> makes you wonder 19:28:09 <TrueBrain> how often can one make a complete disaster which then be called 'design' 19:28:54 <Rubidium> just a quick quiz 19:29:07 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD is ranked 3191 .. nice :p 19:29:08 <Rubidium> how many packages can you mark as being a Windows download? 19:29:09 <Xaroth> the site looks nicer now, the actual browsing through it has gone from sucky to bloody impossible 19:29:26 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: yeah, a common mistake ;) 19:29:39 <TrueBrain> " 19:29:41 <TrueBrain> 19:29:42 <TrueBrain> 57.74% 19:29:44 <TrueBrain> 93.58% 16,642 2006-05-17 N/A 188 19:29:45 <TrueBrain> openHospital is a rewrite of the classic Theme Hospital by Bullfrog. In the spirit of OpenTTD, OH aims to develop a new software core using the original game data from Theme Hospital. 19:29:47 <TrueBrain> lol 19:29:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-63-43.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:29:53 <Xaroth> o_O 19:29:55 <Xaroth> lmao 19:30:05 <TrueBrain> the game was nice 19:30:13 <TrueBrain> wonder if the clone is any good, it being 3 years old and no release 19:30:14 <Xaroth> it wasn't a keeper like TTDX :/ 19:30:27 <Rubidium> tss... no-one participates in my quiz :( 19:30:34 <Xaroth> Rubidium: 2 * 1/2 19:30:37 <Yexo> did OH come off the ground at all? I've seen a topic about it somewhere at tt-forums 19:30:43 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: it isn't a quiz, it is a trap .. and I hate traps 19:30:53 <TrueBrain> well, the site via SF leads to nothing 19:31:04 <TrueBrain> oeh, after 3 redirects, I think I found something 19:31:23 <TrueBrain> 'recent' activity (16 july this year) 19:31:44 <Xaroth> o_O 19:31:47 <Xaroth> only half a month! 19:31:49 <Rubidium> I think that sf has some storage and bandwidth problems 19:32:14 <TrueBrain> can't find anything that relates to any source or VCS 19:32:19 <Xaroth> Rubidium: s/some storage and bandwidth// 19:32:21 <TrueBrain> wonder what the 'open' part means :p 19:32:35 <Rubidium> oh... I read that today 19:33:16 <TrueBrain> oeh, they have a SVN 19:33:21 <TrueBrain> took me a while to find it, but that is back at SF .. 19:33:32 <TrueBrain> good documentation is 90% of the work, but okay 19:33:52 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: the open as in "This time it wants open standards to be "balanced" -- for them to include patent-encumbered technologies under RAND (reasonable and non-discriminatory) terms" 19:34:18 <TrueBrain> they use lua 19:34:19 <TrueBrain> nice 19:34:35 <Xaroth> I wonder where they got that one from.. 19:35:03 <TrueBrain> MSVC only, by the looks 19:35:24 <TrueBrain> (unsigned short const floor) 19:35:26 <TrueBrain> hihi @ name 19:35:37 <Xaroth> o_O 19:35:48 <TrueBrain> coding style isn't really consistant 19:35:58 <TrueBrain> but overall more readable than DOSBox 19:36:12 *** |tux_mark_5| [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 19:36:23 <TrueBrain> good lack of documentation in-code 19:36:26 <Xaroth> did DOSBox actually have coding standards? 19:36:31 <TrueBrain> I doubt that 19:36:34 <TrueBrain> unreadable piece of shit 19:36:39 <TrueBrain> blabla + 0x10 19:36:41 <TrueBrain> 2 lines lower 19:36:42 <TrueBrain> blabla + 16 19:36:44 <TrueBrain> FUCK YOU 19:36:51 <TrueBrain> I stop reading at that point 19:36:53 <TrueBrain> my mind just goes blank 19:37:02 <TrueBrain> I went to a doctor for it, he went blank too 19:37:09 <TrueBrain> so I guess it is not me 19:37:29 <Xaroth> Rorschach test! 19:37:37 <TrueBrain> GLee .. hmm .. GLee isnice 19:38:02 <TrueBrain> don't start about Rorschach please, I read enough of it in the papers 19:38:19 <Xaroth> heh 19:38:42 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: and a few lines beloew that blabla + 020 ? 19:38:47 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:51 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: no, please no 19:39:03 <TrueBrain> when I would read that, I would start writing a big flame mail 19:39:07 <TrueBrain> in open letter form or what ever 19:39:28 <TrueBrain> as then I believe it contains code that sneaks secret info to them 19:40:04 <Aali> don't forget blabla + 10000b 19:40:12 <LadyHawk> hex 19:40:25 <TrueBrain> hex yourself! 19:40:32 <LadyHawk> no the + stuff 19:40:34 <LadyHawk> hex 19:40:40 <TrueBrain> what about it? 19:40:49 <LadyHawk> it's hexadecimals 19:40:52 <TrueBrain> what? 19:40:54 <TrueBrain> where? 19:40:55 <LadyHawk> lmao 19:40:58 <LadyHawk> never mind =) 19:41:01 <TrueBrain> pfew 19:41:07 <TrueBrain> I was about to put you in the same group as Ammler 19:41:10 <TrueBrain> which can't be a good thing :) 19:41:11 <Rubidium> Aali: blabla + 10000b isn't obscure 19:41:20 <planetmaker> I've the strong feeling that one person doesn't make sense here :-) 19:41:22 <TrueBrain> (/me gniffels, sorry Ammler, I won't keep bringing it up ;)) 19:41:31 <Aali> Rubidium: and blabla + 16 is? 19:41:34 <Xaroth> o_O 19:41:36 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: that person itself, or what he/she says? :) 19:41:40 <Xaroth> Aali: context 19:41:43 <Rubidium> Aali: no, blabla + 020 is 19:41:47 <TrueBrain> (the first slightly more disturbing?) 19:41:56 <Xaroth> blabla + 0x10; \n \n blabla + 16; 19:41:57 <planetmaker> haha :-) I guess I should have said "The words of..." 19:42:05 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: ;) 19:42:12 <Xaroth> first you add a hexadecimal, afterwards you add a decimal 19:42:18 <Xaroth> == no consistency 19:42:18 <planetmaker> Before that I'll do +0x30 * 100b 19:42:45 <Aali> Rubidium: good for you, I didn't know we were holding an obscurity contest 19:42:56 <TrueBrain> Aali: you should have read the conversation :) 19:42:59 <planetmaker> :-D 19:43:11 <TrueBrain> in general a good idea :p 19:43:46 <TrueBrain> I LOVE MY SUBWOOFER! 19:43:48 <TrueBrain> woesh :) 19:43:55 <TrueBrain> just .. my stuff tend to fall off my desk now :s 19:43:57 <Xaroth> lol 19:44:12 * Rubidium wonders whether his neighbours feel the same love 19:44:21 <TrueBrain> who knew, that 9 crimes would had such a deep bassline ... 19:44:28 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: they don't. I confirmed that already. 19:44:38 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: play some tool 19:44:47 <TrueBrain> when I started Red Faction (on the xbox360), they came looking wondering what the fuck was going on :p 19:44:57 <Xaroth> Lost keys has a nice annoying tone during the ENTIRE song that pisses off most people :P 19:45:11 <Aali> TrueBrain: I did, but again, I seem to have missed the point where it turns into an obscurity contest 19:45:23 <TrueBrain> Aali: happens :) 19:45:39 <TrueBrain> I guess it has to do that I know Rubidium slightly longer ;) 19:45:44 <LadyHawk> TrueBrain, which 'group' is Ammler in and what are the requirements to get in? 19:45:57 <LadyHawk> =P 19:45:59 <Xaroth> 'spekul people' and 'being insane' ? 19:46:07 * Xaroth hides 19:46:09 <Aali> I guess I should just get back to work 19:46:26 <Belugas> that's what i'm telling myself about every 10 minutes 19:47:18 <TrueBrain> [Sun Aug 2 2009] [18:00:33] <OsteHovel^Atom> Im so stupid sometimes 19:47:20 <TrueBrain> [Sun Aug 2 2009] [18:04:53] <Ammler> and you aren't alone :-) 19:47:21 <TrueBrain> [Sun Aug 2 2009] [18:05:33] <TrueBrain> Ammler: you feel yourself included in that group of stupid people? :) 19:47:23 <TrueBrain> [Sun Aug 2 2009] [18:05:45] <Ammler> yes, very much. 19:47:24 <TrueBrain> [Sun Aug 2 2009] [18:06:00] <Ammler> well "sometimes" 19:47:26 <TrueBrain> LadyHawk: nuff said? 19:47:32 <TrueBrain> Aali / Belugas: I gave up trying to tell myself 19:48:02 <LadyHawk> nuff said 19:48:23 <TrueBrain> and I am teesing him with it all day .. I tihnk I should stop doing that :) 19:49:30 <LadyHawk> would you be able to? =P 19:49:41 <TrueBrain> I no longer kick yorick every time I see him 19:49:42 <TrueBrain> I guess I can 19:49:57 <planetmaker> hehe. People grow up 19:50:07 <TrueBrain> really? 19:50:08 <TrueBrain> shit 19:50:10 <LadyHawk> i wouldn't go that far 19:50:24 <planetmaker> yeah. But the far and remote places are the most lovely. 19:50:39 <planetmaker> the beaten track is for the plebs. 19:50:49 <planetmaker> :-) 19:52:17 <Rubidium> Aali: didn't the dosbox of TrueBrain imply that it was about obscurity? 19:53:15 <TrueBrain> I Guess the answer is: no 19:53:22 <TrueBrain> but that might be obvious ;) 19:58:46 <TrueBrain> I am bored 19:58:53 <TrueBrain> LadyHawk: entertain us 20:00:05 <TrueBrain> Yexo: your translation is now also very inconsistent 20:00:10 <TrueBrain> (the pending one) 20:00:49 <TrueBrain> "{BLACK}Centreer het scherm op vliegtuiglocatie" vs "{BLACK}Centreer het scherm op de locatie van de industrie" 20:01:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.242] has joined #openttd 20:01:40 <Yexo> the industri one is inconsitent,not mine 20:01:44 <Yexo> but thanks for noticing :) 20:01:51 <TrueBrain> they are consistent with the other depots 20:01:57 <LadyHawk> 'vliegtuiglocatie' is supposed to be 2 words? 20:02:00 <TrueBrain> but yeah, I would say, it is about 50 / 50 now :p 20:02:05 <TrueBrain> yeah, I also doubt about that word 20:02:10 <TrueBrain> why not: 'locatie van vliegtuig' 20:02:17 <TrueBrain> or 'de locatie van het vlieguig' 20:02:31 <TrueBrain> for all I care .. to make it both AB(N) Dutch and readable :p 20:02:35 <LadyHawk> even 'vliegtuig locatie' would do, to keep it short 20:02:38 <Yexo> I think that would be better, but it was easier to change just that one string this way :) 20:02:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r17058 /trunk/src/ (company_base.h company_type.h economy.cpp graph_gui.cpp): 20:02:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: magic numbers removal. 20:02:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Two values used intead of just one, as it gives more possibilities to those who dare... 20:02:54 <Alberth> LadyHawk: 'vliegtuiglokatie' 20:02:59 <TrueBrain> Yexo: so for once, I am going to make a change to WT3 language :p 20:03:06 <LadyHawk> that's 2 words 20:03:10 <TrueBrain> lokatie over locatie .. hehe ;) 20:03:26 <LadyHawk> ah sorry if my spelling's a bit off, been living in england for 5+ years 20:03:40 <Alberth> LadyHawk: no, one word, Dutch doesn't insert spaces 20:03:47 <TrueBrain> Alberth: is that really a word? 20:03:50 <LadyHawk> 'vliegtuiglocatie' isn't a word 20:03:52 <TrueBrain> it reads like crap, that for sure 20:03:54 <LadyHawk> it sounds weird 20:04:02 <TrueBrain> and we are not Germans .. so we don't do that shit :p 20:04:04 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 20:04:14 <Alberth> I agree that it looks crap 20:04:15 <DJNekkid> can anyone of you know or can guess how much (lets say in %) of the power a TGV (for example) use at cruising speed? 20:04:25 <TrueBrain> DJNekkid: I guess .. 22.323125% 20:04:26 <DJNekkid> *do anyone 20:04:27 <TrueBrain> am I right? 20:04:29 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 20:04:34 <andythenorth> evening 20:04:35 <DJNekkid> i have no idea, 20:04:38 <DJNekkid> im just wondering... 20:04:45 <TrueBrain> then why you ask us to guess :( 20:04:47 <DJNekkid> trying to calculate how much power it use per year 20:04:59 <Yexo> the dutch translation is bad 20:05:03 <DJNekkid> calculated/qualified guess can 20:05:08 <TrueBrain> Lokatie is wrong btw, it is locatie (vandale.nl) 20:05:08 <DJNekkid> can = then 20:05:19 <LadyHawk> so i was right 20:05:30 <LadyHawk> does 'vliegtuiglocatie' translate as a word? 20:05:35 <LadyHawk> lol 20:05:45 <Yexo> no, it's not a word 20:05:50 <TrueBrain> Yexo: can you look at STR_TOWN_VIEW_CENTER_TOOLTIP for me? 20:05:56 <TrueBrain> ('stad', 'plaats' stuff) 20:06:16 <TrueBrain> 'van de plaats' sounds weird, so I made it 'stad', but I am not sure that is consistent :p 20:06:30 <LadyHawk> which tooltip is that? 20:06:30 <Yexo> it's fine :) 20:06:50 <Yexo> I still need to go over all plaats/dorp/stad strings to make them consistent 20:06:55 <TrueBrain> Yexo: weird enough I am undoing habell's work of a few revisions ago :s 20:06:59 <Yexo> so for now, any one of them is ok 20:07:33 <Yexo> the previous translation was indeed better :) 20:07:59 <TrueBrain> I only made 'dit schip' naar 'het schip' 20:08:33 <Yexo> but he also did s/hoofdbeeld/het scherm/, I hope you're not undoing that too? 20:08:43 <TrueBrain> nope, in fact, doing the ones he forgot 20:08:45 <TrueBrain> 'hoofdbeeld' 20:08:47 <TrueBrain> wtf is that? 20:08:48 <TrueBrain> a statue? 20:08:49 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 20:09:01 <TrueBrain> 'trein depot' vs 'schipdepot' 20:09:26 <LadyHawk> hoofdbeeld = statue yeh 20:09:59 <TrueBrain> "wegvoertuigdepot locatie" <- que? :) 20:10:09 <TrueBrain> wegvoertuigdepot? What kind of German dialect is that? 20:10:11 <LadyHawk> eh, that isn't right 20:10:26 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 20:10:29 <LadyHawk> but it's trying to be 'road depot' which would be 'garage' in my opinion 20:10:31 <Yexo> I can't think of a better translation for road depot 20:10:38 <Yexo> garage is nice :) 20:10:45 <TrueBrain> auto garage? 20:10:55 <LadyHawk> that might be a bit clearer yeah 20:11:04 <Yexo> for busses / trucks? 20:11:05 <TrueBrain> shall we translate all 'depot' to 'garage', or is that too much? 20:11:13 <Yexo> the "auto" part doesn't sound right to me 20:11:17 <TrueBrain> Yexo: yes, instead of 'wegvoertuigdepot' :p 20:11:25 *** xmakina [~xmakina@87.115.49.116.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:41 <Yexo> it's definitely an improvement, but why not just "garage"? 20:11:50 <TrueBrain> what to do with the other 'depot's? 20:11:54 <LadyHawk> train depot wouldn't be a 'garage' 20:11:58 <TrueBrain> true 20:12:14 <Yexo> for planes it's just hangar 20:12:23 <Yexo> for ships maybe "dok"? 20:12:46 <TrueBrain> dok, I like 20:18:03 <TrueBrain> that only leaves 'treindepot' 20:18:36 <LadyHawk> i can't remember what they're called 20:18:36 <LadyHawk> lol 20:19:34 <LadyHawk> that's 2 words though 20:21:25 <TrueBrain> STR_DEPOT_ROAD_VEHICLE_CAPTION has "Bouw" in dutch .. while I don't see anything in the english which suggests that :s 20:21:25 <Yexo> rangeerstation ? Not really correct, but it might do 20:21:33 <Alberth> remise 20:21:45 <TrueBrain> 'Scheepswerf' is used for 'dok' 20:21:53 <Yexo> Alberth: that's for busses / trams 20:22:05 <Yexo> but I like it :) 20:22:18 <TrueBrain> I also need something for tramdepot :p 20:22:42 <Yexo> busremise / tramremise :p 20:23:03 <Alberth> 'Scheepswerf' is for building ships, 'dok' also tends in that direction, but is more general imho. 20:23:17 <TrueBrain> so Dok it is 20:23:25 <Yexo> yes, but the dock in openttd is mainly for building ships 20:23:30 <Eddi|zuHause> but "Strassenbahndepot" is very valid in german 20:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "Dock" is more like the ship-station, the ship-depot should be a "Werft" 20:24:36 <frosch123> s/Werft/Trockendock/ 20:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not really dry ;) 20:24:56 <frosch123> "Werft" is only for new ships 20:25:33 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the fish-heads should discuss that ;) 20:25:46 <TrueBrain> "vliegtuig hangar" .. lets call it just 'hangar' 20:26:41 <Yexo> yes, hangar is enough 20:26:42 <Eddi|zuHause> something's awfully wrong today... my mouse totally misbehaves 20:27:12 <Alberth> my dictionary says "hangar" -> "(vliegtuig)loods" 20:28:01 <TrueBrain> english.txt weirdness (maybe you know Rubidium): 20:28:03 <TrueBrain> STR_BUILD_DEPOT_TRAIN_ORIENTATION 20:28:06 <TrueBrain> STR_BUILD_DEPOT_ROAD_ORIENTATION 20:28:11 <TrueBrain> The first says: {BLACK}Select railway depot orientation 20:28:18 <TrueBrain> The second: {WHITE}Road Depot Orientation 20:28:24 <TrueBrain> colours are different, text is different .. 20:28:26 <TrueBrain> what is going on there? 20:29:16 <Eddi|zuHause> and something else is totally wrong... my chat is full of dutch words 20:30:09 <TrueBrain> damn, sometimes WT3 just 'hangs' :( 20:30:14 <Alberth> the bad influence of your mouse seems to spread over the Internet ! 20:31:41 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: have you seen the "Dutchmen: Help translating" thread? 20:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> no 20:32:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i have not watched the forum lately 20:32:20 <Yexo> TrueBrain: STR_BUILD_DEPOT_ROAD_ORIENTATION <- that one is a window title 20:32:22 <frosch123> watch out, the thread might be opened :o 20:32:43 <Yexo> why use the forum? We'll just take over irc :p 20:32:47 <TrueBrain> Yexo: what ever it is, the key is inconsistant and should be fixed ;) 20:32:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C163.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:33:50 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I marked 4 strings which miss 'Ctrl+Click' translation 20:33:53 <TrueBrain> can you take a look at those? 20:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate true blood 20:33:57 <TrueBrain> and please validate my translations :) 20:34:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it always takes forever to download 20:34:08 <Yexo> sure, I'll have a look 20:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: the problem with devs doing translations is that it takes away dev-time ;) 20:34:45 <TrueBrain> Yexo: "{ORANGE}Op weg naar {TOWN} Garage" <- reads a bit silly 20:34:54 <TrueBrain> maybe: {TOWN}'s garage 20:35:00 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:35:32 *** TinoDid [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 20:36:14 <Yexo> "Ctrl+klik voor alleen onderhoud"? 20:36:23 <TrueBrain> sounds fine 20:38:13 <TrueBrain> pff .. so many small inconsistancies :( 20:38:18 <TrueBrain> up to 65 :S 20:38:47 <Belugas> speaking of series, anyone watch the first two shows of Defying Gravity yesterday? 20:38:47 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffeec.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:03 <TrueBrain> Belugas: any good? 20:39:07 <Belugas> i found it interesting and almost intriguing 20:39:12 <TrueBrain> I read about it, dismissed it 20:39:34 <Belugas> i'm a sci-fie freak, take note... 20:39:43 * TrueBrain downloads 20:39:56 <Belugas> you can??? 20:40:01 <TrueBrain> of course I can 20:40:07 <Belugas> it's not on dvd yet! 20:40:10 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I now also notice WT3.1 would need something better for searches :p 20:40:19 <TrueBrain> no 720p ... blegh 20:40:41 <TrueBrain> Belugas: http://nzbmatrix.com/nzb-details.php?id=481158 20:40:44 <TrueBrain> nobody said it was legal 20:41:35 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:45 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I _think_ I have all isntances of 'depot' 20:41:50 <TrueBrain> I left 'tramdepot' and 'treindepot' for now 20:41:53 <Eddi|zuHause> it's also in my queue now 20:41:56 <TrueBrain> (1 word) 20:41:58 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 20:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause> can only be days :p 20:42:08 <TrueBrain> I already downlaoded it ;) 20:42:15 <Yexo> ok, then I'll go over your changes now :) 20:42:24 <TrueBrain> Yexo: k, then I won't change anything for a moment :) 20:42:41 <TrueBrain> Yexo: the only thing I find tricky, is capitals 20:42:43 <TrueBrain> "Send to Hangar" 20:42:48 <Belugas> i can't believe it... it's brand new... 20:42:49 <Belugas> wowo.. 20:42:52 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: my bandwidth is already saturated for days... 20:42:52 <TrueBrain> will that be "Stuur naar hangar" or "Stuur naar Hangar" 20:42:59 <Belugas> the internet... what a big surprise! 20:43:01 <Yexo> I'd translate it without a capital, ie "Stuur naar garage" 20:43:07 <TrueBrain> then I made a few mistakes ;) 20:43:16 <TrueBrain> changing that ;) 20:43:18 <TinoDidriksen> Belugas, every new show is ripped and online within an hour of it finishing airing. 20:43:27 <Yexo> but in case of "{TOWN}'s Garage" a capital looks better 20:43:33 <TrueBrain> are we going to do that? 20:43:36 <Belugas> he ben.... well. enjoy then 20:43:50 <Eddi|zuHause> an hour is exaggerated, but on average maybe 20:44:03 <Yexo> 's doesn't always make sence, so we better leave that out 20:44:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the shortest i ever witnessed was 35 minutes 20:44:37 <Eddi|zuHause> some take half a day 20:44:52 <Yexo> Yexo: the problem with devs doing translations is that it takes away dev-time ;) <- Fine someone providing a decent dutch translation and you won't find me translating again 20:44:57 <Yexo> s/Fine/Find/ 20:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> on days like lost-day, the whole internet is on fire :p 20:46:09 * Belugas prefers to wait until the translated version comes on TV. as for Defying, it was just a matter of luck. 20:46:29 <Yexo> {BLACK}Bouw dok (voor de bouw en onderhoud) <- isn't "voor bouw en onderhoud" (without de) better? or maybe "van schepen" at the end 20:46:39 <TrueBrain> Yexo: well, the old was horrible 20:46:44 <TrueBrain> and I took one that already existed :p 20:46:49 <TrueBrain> but I agree 20:46:54 <TrueBrain> "voor bouw en onder van schepen" 20:46:58 <TrueBrain> will do that for all instances 20:47:01 <Belugas> i watched one episode of lost in english. i hated it. they were mumbling beyond understanding 20:47:08 <Yexo> onderhoud please, not onder :p 20:47:31 * Belugas shuts up, you're doing usefull stuff 20:48:27 <TrueBrain> hehe 20:48:29 <TrueBrain> Yexo: done 20:50:41 <Yexo> "Station namen" <- maybe "Stationsnamen"? 20:50:56 <TrueBrain> yeah 20:51:05 <TrueBrain> "Industrie namen" ? 20:51:28 <Yexo> no idea for that, "Industrienamen" doesn't look right 20:51:38 <TrueBrain> not even a bit 20:52:05 <Yexo> "Geef een lijst van alle wegvoertuigen met huidig garage in hun orders" <- that's not correct either 20:52:12 <TrueBrain> "Stuur naar onderhoud" <- "Stuur voor onderhoud" better? 20:52:16 <Yexo> "met de huidige garage"? 20:52:28 <Yexo> or "met deze garage"? 20:52:51 <Yexo> best would be "Stuur naar (depot/dok/..) voor onderhoud 20:53:19 <Yexo> I prefer "Stuur voor onderhoud" above "Stuur naar onderhoud" 20:53:23 <TrueBrain> "Send for Servicing" is the english 20:53:31 <TrueBrain> so adding 'to depot' is not correct 20:54:03 <Yexo> it's "het treindepot", not "de treindepot", right? 20:54:06 <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me of the time when in a german channel they talked swiss-german and i asked "i must have hit a wrong button, how do i switch the channel to high german again?" 20:54:16 <TrueBrain> Yexo: yup 20:54:30 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: you want to say something, just say it ;) 20:54:44 <TrueBrain> Yexo: replaced "huidig" met "dit/deze" 20:54:56 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i have nothing useful to say ;) 20:55:06 <TrueBrain> oh, I thought you were commenting ;) 20:56:03 <TrueBrain> i sometimes forget the search only searches in the category 20:56:04 <TrueBrain> fucking annoying 20:56:44 <Yexo> the list of "Waiting for commit strings" looks nice, no more comments about that list :) 20:56:51 <TrueBrain> k .. then I will add a few :p 20:57:01 <TrueBrain> "Actie van huidig vliegtuig" <- really .. wtf? 20:57:10 <TrueBrain> "Huidige trein actie" <- sounds better, so maybe use that? 20:57:57 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: your work of grouping stuff is very useful in translating, you should continue that :) 20:58:19 <Yexo> TrueBrain: what's the original english string? 20:58:30 <TrueBrain> Current ship action 20:59:21 <Yexo> what about "Huidige actie van trein"? 21:00:26 <TrueBrain> "{BLACK}Toon trein orders" <- really .. wtf? This is not Dutch 21:00:29 <TrueBrain> "potjesnederlands" 21:00:48 <TrueBrain> "Laat orders van trein zien" ? " Toon orders van trein"? 21:00:56 <TrueBrain> "Laat treinorders zien" 21:01:00 <TrueBrain> lets take this to a PM Yexo :p 21:01:11 <Yexo> ok :) 21:01:11 <TrueBrain> (as LadyHawk and Alberth stopped contributing :p) 21:01:42 <LadyHawk> toon? 21:01:49 <LadyHawk> the full dutch verb is 'aantonen' 21:02:01 <Yexo> that's another verb 21:02:08 <LadyHawk> is it? 21:02:10 <Yexo> "tonen" is a full dutch verb 21:02:19 *** Lisby [~l@x1-6-00-17-3f-55-57-df.k467.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 21:03:05 <LadyHawk> that's perfect dutch then.. just looks a bit weird in a menu like that 21:03:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:03:32 <Yexo> I think it's a tooltip 21:03:43 <TrueBrain> yup 21:03:52 <DaleStan> planetmaker: Are install targets traditionally prereq-free? 21:04:41 <planetmaker> good question. I'd make it depend on what needs installing, though :-) 21:06:14 <DaleStan> The patch you gave me has no prereqs. I didn't notice that until just now, when I tried to "make remake install" and remake errorred. But install still attempted to install. 21:06:49 <planetmaker> gcc doesn't seem to have pre-requisites 21:07:39 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:09 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:09:40 <planetmaker> DaleStan: I actually wonder why I pasted it without pre-requisite. In all my newgrf makefiles I have it depend on the grf... 21:09:51 <planetmaker> so... depending it on the binary seems sensible 21:11:42 <planetmaker> openttd makes it also depend upon successful bundle creation. 21:14:36 <Belugas> night all 21:14:53 <planetmaker> night Belugas 21:17:45 <planetmaker> DaleStan: when you add a pre-requisite, you could at the same time declare it phoney: 21:17:46 <planetmaker> .PHONY: clean all bundle bundle_tar bundle_zip bundle_bzip install release release_zip remake test 21:18:46 <planetmaker> (that's my targets, not necessarily grfcodec's) 21:22:41 <planetmaker> DaleStan: a reason to NOT make it dependent is, though: "make install" is usually called as root. And you don't want root to write in your build dir files you cannot delete 21:24:18 <DaleStan> AIUI, ownership by root doesn't prevent deletion by others. 21:25:01 *** Jhs [~jhsoby@214.80-202-210.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:25:04 <planetmaker> usually only the owner has write permission... at least on the systems I use. Of course there's always sudo and chown 21:25:37 <TrueBrain> STR_DEPOT_TRAIN_LIST_TOOLTIP vs STR_DEPOT_ROAD_LIST_TOOLTIP 21:25:40 <TrueBrain> inconsistant in english 21:25:45 <DaleStan> I thought delete was a write operation on the containing directory, not the file. 21:27:22 <planetmaker> hm... 21:29:04 <Jhs> Rubidium, hoi :) 21:29:41 <planetmaker> you're right 21:30:54 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:32:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17059 /trunk/src/ (48 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: Rename a few strings to reflect their usage 21:34:35 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:38:23 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has joined #openttd 21:38:52 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.74.135] has left #openttd [] 21:39:35 <Eddi|zuHause> what do i do now with a HD that lies outside of the computer and i can't get empty? 21:41:42 <Rubidium> hi Jhs 21:42:35 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:39 <planetmaker> good night folks 21:45:35 *** Jhs [~jhsoby@214.80-202-210.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i'm afraid he did not even get that message ;) 21:52:59 *** Jhs [~jhsoby@214.80-202-210.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:58:01 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:58:58 <Yexo> good night 21:59:12 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 22:00:39 <TrueBrain> Yexo and I just corrected 195 dutch sentences ... 22:00:43 <TrueBrain> s 22:00:45 <TrueBrain> :s 22:01:06 <TrueBrain> @calc 3267 / 195 22:01:06 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 16.7538461538 22:01:10 <TrueBrain> @calc 195 / 3267 * 100 22:01:10 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 5.96877869605 22:01:12 <TrueBrain> 6% :s 22:02:46 <TrueBrain> night all 22:08:38 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.223] has joined #openttd 22:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a cat... 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