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00:01:21 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-118-232.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:01:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:03:27 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-105-195.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:05:56 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-72-235.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:52 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-74-57-139.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 00:13:18 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08e3a5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 00:15:33 *** dfox [~dfox@rei.ipv6.dfox.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:15:42 *** APTX [APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:240:63ff:fefb:5994] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22:24 <welshdragon> How do I get the scenario editor to just build more houses when I hit "expand" 00:22:43 <Supercheese> I dunno 00:24:22 <welshdragon> it's weird, it will build new roads, but not any new houses 00:29:13 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has joined #openttd 00:30:00 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 00:34:14 *** Phr33d0m [~n0kS@Politeia.in] has quit [Quit: oh, being a whore. i agree it's honourable - far more honourable than selling s/w without shipping its source code with it] 00:39:41 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.91] has joined #openttd 00:40:18 <planetmaker> welshdragon, do you use like TAI as NewGRF? The used house newgrf must support houses. Ultimately it decides whether houses can be built or not 00:44:51 <welshdragon> right 00:45:35 <welshdragon> yesm i use TaI 00:45:48 <Supercheese> that'd explain it 00:48:49 <welshdragon> remoced 00:50:26 <welshdragon> hah, broke it 00:50:34 <welshdragon> assertion failed 00:50:48 <Supercheese> changed grfs in running game/scenario? 00:52:31 <welshdragon> nope, scenario was paused :P 00:53:00 <Supercheese> -_- 01:03:43 <welshdragon> i know, I break every OpenTTD rule in the book :P 01:08:28 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:13:58 <welshdragon> aha, I just reproduced it 01:14:31 <welshdragon> With Chill's PP: when you remove TaI and hit "expand" in a town, it breaks 01:14:48 <Supercheese> the "remove TAI" part is what's doing the breaking 01:15:09 <Supercheese> solution: don't remove TAI or start a new game/scenario 01:15:17 <welshdragon> mmm 01:15:26 <welshdragon> or don't expand towns 01:15:40 <Supercheese> then it'll just break later 01:15:44 <Beardie> hi anyone know how to update GRFs on BaNaNaS? 01:15:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@128-72-15-2.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:10 <Supercheese> If the new version of the GRF is available for your version, saying "select upgrades" should do ya 01:16:29 <Beardie> wait i just figured out why 01:16:37 <Beardie> we have two BaNaNaS accounts 01:16:54 <Beardie> ours has no files why we do have a GRF in the BaNaNaS system 01:16:55 <Supercheese> oohhh you mean manage updates 01:17:07 <Supercheese> like for a grf you uploaded, update that 01:17:24 <Beardie> yeah but its not showing we added a grf in the first place 01:17:34 <Beardie> saying this we donl;t know who did lol 01:17:40 <Supercheese> you need to use the original uploader's account 01:17:47 <Beardie> yes 01:17:55 <Beardie> but since i run the set it should be 01:17:59 <Beardie> and its not lol 01:18:04 <Supercheese> hmm 01:18:07 <Beardie> just figured it out now 01:19:36 <Beardie> one fo the other creators of the set must have put it on with their account 01:19:43 <Beardie> anyway ty supercheese 01:19:55 <Supercheese> you're welcome 01:22:04 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c06b:6ab:eab6:e88d] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:26:07 *** Strid [~Strid@c-a1cfe455.04-372-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 01:32:05 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:32:10 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:36:33 <welshdragon> one thing i've noticed is that over time, TaI towns and cities shrink 01:38:06 *** DaZ [~derp@77-255-41-146.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:48:20 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 01:48:22 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-058-089.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 02:05:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A494.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:20 <BadBrett> Supercheese: Do you know if i can make industries that both have land and water tiles? (for example a water mill) 02:10:20 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:34 <Supercheese> You can probably fake it pretty easily 02:10:42 <Supercheese> but as for "official" land and water tiles I dunno 02:11:07 <Supercheese> I haven't done too much with industries 02:11:10 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 02:11:33 <BadBrett> ok, thanks 02:12:22 <BadBrett> i guess andy should know more about this. FIRS has very strange industry layouts 02:13:07 <Supercheese> it seems pretty easy to check if a certain tile is water and the ones right next to it not water 02:13:29 <Supercheese> so you could check for that and place the industry on those tiles 02:13:36 <Supercheese> you can also check slopes 02:14:06 <Supercheese> then you've got yer water mill location 02:14:08 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.91] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:15:47 <Supercheese> you can even check if the tile is a river, rather than sea 02:16:07 <BadBrett> yeah... but for some reason i can't get the slopes to work... i'm gonna check out FIRS Fishing Harbor 02:16:18 <BadBrett> but it shouldn't be to hard to accomplish 02:16:29 <Supercheese> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Industries#Common_variables 02:16:38 <Supercheese> nearby_tile_slope Value Range: SLOPE_XXX 02:16:51 <Supercheese> requires arguments, of course 02:16:59 <Supercheese> nearby_tile_slope(x,y) 02:17:10 <Supercheese> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_tile_slopes 02:18:04 <BadBrett> hmm... i thought that was only for adjacent tiles? 02:18:34 <Supercheese> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Industries#Industry_tile_callbacks 02:18:38 <Supercheese> tile_check 02:18:47 <Supercheese> Called before constructing the industry, so nothing exists on the map yet. 02:19:11 <Supercheese> I figure a combination of that callback accessing those variables above 02:19:20 <Supercheese> should get placement down to where you want it 02:19:28 <BadBrett> yeah i already use tile_check... but i guess i screwed up :p 02:19:41 <Supercheese> "From the tile variables, relative x/y/position, town zone are available, as well as the class, height, slope, terrain type and water status of nearby tiles" 02:19:58 <Supercheese> should be all ya need 02:22:49 <BadBrett> yeah... perhaps there's a conflict with the variable water_distance which i have set 02:28:23 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 02:30:11 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:41 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.91] has joined #openttd 02:44:02 <BadBrett> i laugh every time "snorre" joins the channel because it means "dick" in swedish... actually it's an old name as well (like Dick), but i've never actually met anyone with that name 02:57:25 *** Leto` [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 03:00:57 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:48 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:1f06:13e0::1337] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:33 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@2001:470:1f06:13e0::1337] has joined #openttd 03:48:05 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 04:33:28 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 04:50:16 *** DDR_ [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 04:55:25 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:55:27 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 05:07:55 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-189-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:13:08 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 05:46:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD55D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:46:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD58AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:02:50 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 06:45:29 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 06:53:51 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 07:08:37 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 07:19:55 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:40:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:15 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.94.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:42:31 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 07:45:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:48:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A494.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:57:39 <NGC3982> Snorre was used as a normal serious surname a very long time ago 07:59:02 <NGC3982> Afaik, it's originally icelandic, and it spans at least back to the year 1000-1100 (With Snorre Sturlasson). 07:59:47 <NGC3982> But yeah, the nickname snorre might be for a reason. 27 people still live in Sweden with that name as we speak, according to Svenskanamn.se 08:00:34 <NGC3982> I guess most of them are very old. Although, 'snorre' as a penis analogy is a post-1950-ish kind o' thing. 08:12:02 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:16:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:16:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 08:35:42 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 08:38:20 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:56:47 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:58:36 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 08:32:14 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 09:29:04 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 09:33:53 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:37:39 * NGC3982 ends the monologue. 09:37:52 <Terkhen> good morning 09:41:50 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:28 <telanus> NGC3982: Snorre <-- was the nickname we gave our ex-national Rugby coach 09:49:55 <NGC3982> What country? 09:50:07 <telanus> South Africa 09:51:59 <MNIM> well, but in that case it's more likely because of the 'stache, right? 09:52:10 <Eddi|zuHause> in german you are a "Schnorrer" if you (continuously) live off other people's supplies 09:53:04 <Eddi|zuHause> like if you are in a bar constantly ask for a beer, instead of buying one yourself 09:53:13 <telanus> Because he has a huge Moustache 09:53:32 <MNIM> haha, thought so 09:53:47 <telanus> snor=Moustache in Afrikaans 09:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, a "Schnurrbart", then 09:54:20 <MNIM> in dutch similar slang exists, Eddi, though 'snorren' means more like 'to fix' like in "I need to fix me some money, I've got month left at the end of my paycheck" 09:56:18 <Eddi|zuHause> "schnurren" is the sound that cats make, which is likely the source of the word "Schnurrbart" (for moustache) 09:56:38 <NGC3982> "snor" is actually nose mucus or snot here in Sweden. 09:56:42 <NGC3982> How quaint. 09:57:26 <Eddi|zuHause> not to confuse with "schnarchen" ("to snore" in english) 09:57:28 <MNIM> eddi: a small distance to the west a 'snor' is a moustache, and a 'baard' is a beard, so I'm not so sure about that 09:57:33 <NGC3982> Hehe 09:58:54 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d173-183-158-32.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:20 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: well "beard" is a "(Voll-)Bart" 09:59:37 <NGC3982> "To stroke my snor" is not a beautiful thing to say around here. 09:59:43 <NGC3982> Illogical, but nevertheless funny. 10:00:02 <MNIM> ...to stroke your snot? 0-o 10:00:06 <MNIM> is that a euphemism? 10:00:49 <MNIM> also, lol, similarly, we have a phrase 'de snor drukken' (to press the moustache) 10:02:12 <MNIM> which means as much as 'to weasel out' like in hiding your moustache with one hand and pointing at somebody with the other saying "He with the moustache!" 10:04:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never heard of anything even remotely similar here... 10:11:39 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d172-218-21-135.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 10:11:51 <NGC3982> No, no, "To stroke my snor" is something i made up right now. 10:12:07 <NGC3982> It was just to emphasize the difference of "snor" in Germany and Sweden. 10:12:13 <MNIM> ... 10:12:16 <MNIM> :/ 10:12:38 * NGC3982 also wants a moustasche. 10:14:03 * snorre will never go to sweeden again :P haha 10:14:31 <NGC3982> snorre: ;) 10:14:40 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 10:15:08 <snorre> snorre is a common first name in norway 10:16:40 <planetmaker> moin 10:16:47 <snorre> ok not so common, 1586 have that name http://www.ssb.no/vis/navn/sok.cgi?fornavn=snorre&etternavn=&lang=n 10:17:20 <MNIM> ...that would be interesting if I could read it... my norsk is not that good Im afraid 10:17:39 <NGC3982> snorre: You norweigans have the funniest names in history. 10:17:48 *** krinn [~krinn@192.210.73.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:00 <krinn> hi 10:18:02 <NGC3982> I work with norweigans on a daily basis, and i just love how the names of people and places are put together 10:18:05 <planetmaker> hi krinn 10:18:15 <NGC3982> It's mostly just a lot of words added after each other 10:18:24 <NGC3982> Kronebeckestadebecken 10:18:34 <NGC3982> Ture-tore Wenchesdotterstaden 10:18:57 <NGC3982> Or my personal favourite: Pule Tull 10:18:58 <NGC3982> :D 10:18:59 <TrueBrain> english only! Pffffffffff 10:19:00 <TrueBrain> :D :) 10:19:05 <NGC3982> Hehe 10:19:33 <krinn> I'm a bit lost, back after the summer work, i don't really know where i was with my work on SCP and my tries show no problems, anyone try it and saw problem ? 10:20:12 <planetmaker> English... anyone seen Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu ? 10:20:20 <planetmaker> :D 10:20:23 <NGC3982> Haha 10:20:53 <planetmaker> commonly known as Taumata though :-) 10:21:35 <NGC3982> That sounds indonesian or something 10:21:46 <krinn> there a seen function to check zuu ? 10:22:03 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 10:22:18 <krinn> !seen zuu 10:22:42 <__ln__> @seen Zuu 10:22:42 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Zuu was last seen in #openttd 14 hours, 25 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Zuu> And working from the idea that you have a working strategy that from time to time need some support with feeders is probably much more sane. 10:22:42 <planetmaker> European evening hours are more likely to see Zuu around :-) 10:22:52 <MNIM> not indonesian, Papua New Guinean 10:23:05 <krinn> thx __ln__ 10:23:21 <MNIM> if I remember it correctly it was something like 'rock where long white man played the flute' and a lot more 10:23:58 <NGC3982> MNIM: Oh. 10:24:10 <NGC3982> Wait, a person in #Openttd? 10:24:33 <MNIM> wikipedia says "The summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one" 10:25:09 <MNIM> so I got the flute part right! also, rock-summit... http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/2027-close-enough.jpg 10:26:04 <NGC3982> ;) 10:30:10 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-173-71-180-190.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:35:35 <__ln__> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/enterprise-it/strategy/Nokia-There-is-no-Plan-B-Lumia-phones-will-succeed/articleshow/16525262.cms 10:35:46 <__ln__> "Nokia has been a leader and we want to lead. We cannot be one of the many companies making Android phones." -- "We heartily welcome Samsung to the Windows Phone ecosystem and we hope that they get serious about it." 10:37:17 <krinn> so they plan to be one of the many windows phone companies ? how is it leading the way ? 10:37:57 <__ln__> that's how! 10:42:07 <NGC3982> Harr. 10:45:52 <TrueBrain> don't be a critic. They get paid a lot of dollars to make such statements :P 10:46:44 <TrueBrain> Facebook Netherlands said today that it is not hard to know your privacy settings when sending messages on Facebook. I wonder if they use a different frontend, as I cannot figure it out ... I feel old now :D 10:48:10 <krinn> there's something called "privacy" on facebook? 10:51:18 <NGC3982> Of course there is. 10:51:23 <NGC3982> People just need to know how to use it. 10:51:54 <krinn> i expect to see it only in "your privacy is our" statement 10:53:49 <__ln__> When I buy Facebook, I will charge /day/person to keep their private content private, otherwise it goes public. 10:54:51 <krinn> lol __ln__ at the current rate their actions fall, you may buy facebook for a dollar soon 10:55:44 <NGC3982> Stock market prices != popularity. 10:56:53 <krinn> except their populary is over estimated 10:57:05 <krinn> something stock will put in light 11:21:46 *** bolli [~Sam@222.160.17.46.bridgep.com] has joined #openttd 11:36:28 *** krinn [~krinn@192.210.73.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:11 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:21:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:54:07 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 13:20:23 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 13:20:23 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:12 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 13:24:28 <Yexo> <krinn> [12:48:10] there's something called "privacy" on facebook? <- it's disguised as the "Logout" button 13:26:01 <bolli> but, this being facebook, does it actually log you out, or does it cause the browser to crash? 13:32:57 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:58:37 <Belugas> hello 13:59:10 <Terkhen> hi Belugas 14:02:34 <Belugas> hello Terkhen :) 14:02:41 <Belugas> got a nice weekend? 14:03:01 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:03:22 <NGC3982> Crap-tart. 14:03:30 <NGC3982> I missed out on min_active_clients 14:03:53 <NGC3982> And runned bancrupt over night. 14:03:59 <NGC3982> On a six weeks map. 14:07:28 <Kitty> I don't suppose there is a way of telling total profit made from say, coal ? 14:09:07 <planetmaker> By default there's no such possibility, Kitty 14:09:28 <NGC3982> One should be able to calculate the maximum profit per speed and tile, right? 14:10:03 <planetmaker> you don't need to calculate... you got the payment rates graphs ingame 14:10:13 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:54 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@dsl-149-87-36.hive.is] has joined #openttd 14:12:37 <NGC3982> Yes, that was what i was ..trying to point out. 14:12:42 <NGC3982> :P 14:24:27 <Kitty> I am trying to get my head round ships 14:24:30 <Kitty> I can build a canal 14:24:39 <Kitty> but can't put a dock in it for inland industries 14:24:45 <Kitty> am I donig something wrong ? 14:25:32 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:35:57 <NGC3982> Kitty: Yes, that is true. You cannot build docks in channel premises. 14:36:29 <NGC3982> They are not to be used for docks, but simply leading a way to them. 14:37:12 <NGC3982> Kitty: Take a look at this picture. It illustrated both purpose and how-to: 14:37:13 <NGC3982> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/thumb/f/f3/Temperate-canal-locks.png/300px-Temperate-canal-locks.png 14:40:57 <__ln__> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292840_443598275692510_311425642_n.jpg 14:42:55 <Terkhen> Belugas: yes, thank you :) 14:43:04 <Terkhen> I hope you did too 14:44:35 <Eddi|zuHause> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/09/1055102251.gif 14:46:45 <Belugas> kind of yes. Marvelous weather, but i had to work a lot at home. preparing for fall, painting my work room downstair, helpng my son with school prject, that kind of stuff :) 14:47:02 <Belugas> Terkhen, i guess it's all about routine of a dad :D 14:47:15 <Terkhen> sounds like you were busy :P 14:47:42 <Belugas> ho big time... 14:47:59 <Belugas> fun of coming at work, on monday, yu can relax! 14:47:59 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 14:52:12 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 14:52:26 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:54 <NGC3982> __ln__: :D 15:03:18 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 15:07:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:09:57 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:32 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:39 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 15:40:28 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:34 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:49:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:56:24 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 15:57:11 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.85.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:36 *** bolli [~Sam@222.160.17.46.bridgep.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:53 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 16:16:19 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-083-003.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 16:17:06 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@s53757898.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:29:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7837:89d2:aab6:edfc] has joined #openttd 16:29:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:31:50 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:31:53 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 16:44:02 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has joined #openttd 16:54:41 <andythenorth_> lo 16:56:28 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:59:40 * andythenorth_ wonders what the chances of GS MP are tonight? :) 17:17:44 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:51 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has joined #openttd 17:17:54 *** keoz [~keikoz@159.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:57 <Rubidium> andythenorth_: 0 <= chance <= 1 ;) 17:25:20 *** Muxy [~Muxy@88.122.0.24] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 17:25:34 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r24556 /trunk/src/lang/ (belarusian.txt croatian.txt dutch.txt): 17:45:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belarusian - 2 changes by Wowanxm 17:45:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 2 changes by VoyagerOne 17:45:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 2 changes by habell 17:46:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A3A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:26 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:16:43 <andythenorth_> Rubidium: I'm no good at probability sorry 18:16:46 <andythenorth_> can you explain :P 18:17:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6127.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:50 <andythenorth_> quik 18:17:53 <andythenorth_> quak 18:18:31 <frosch123> moin :) 18:24:01 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:35:04 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08ebd0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:14 *** telanus1 [~telanus@196-215-153-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 18:40:13 *** flaa [~flaa@188.141.45.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:41:11 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:52 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:10 <andythenorth_> rv-wagons? 18:43:44 <andythenorth_> or (with a new GUI panel) set arbitrary vehicle properties on construction? 18:44:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6127.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44:45 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6127.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:59 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:45:41 <FLHerne> Both :D 18:46:45 <andythenorth_> it was more a question to frosch123 :P 18:50:36 <frosch123> luckily i disconnected 18:51:50 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:54:35 <andythenorth_> how handy :P 18:55:56 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 18:56:12 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:57:57 *** M1zera [~Miranda@ip-89-176-31-70.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:58:57 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 19:00:55 * andythenorth_ has idea 19:01:04 <andythenorth_> offer only one truck model at any one time 19:01:20 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:28 <andythenorth_> but have multiple vehicle IDs for it, with different bodies 19:01:58 <Zuu> in newGRF world, is not a vehicle an instance of an engine? 19:02:12 <andythenorth_> name could just be Truck 19:02:12 <andythenorth_> Flat Truck 19:02:12 <andythenorth_> Box Truck 19:02:14 <andythenorth_> etc 19:02:42 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@cpc4-pres13-2-0-cust231.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:02:45 <andythenorth_> Zuu: if I understand you correctly, no 19:02:51 <andythenorth_> vehicle is any...vehicle 19:03:13 *** keoz [~keikoz@159.90.76.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 19:03:17 <NGC3982> Evening. 19:03:27 <andythenorth_> dunno how openttd code treats them, maybe they are all engines 19:03:48 <NGC3982> As far as i know, the english language separates engine from engine 19:04:04 <NGC3982> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Mercedes_V6_DTM_Rennmotor_1996.jpg 19:04:08 <NGC3982> An engine. 19:04:09 <andythenorth_> the english language is slippery :P 19:04:20 <NGC3982> http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00450/Steam_Locomotivepix.jpg 19:04:24 <NGC3982> And an engine. 19:04:31 <NGC3982> An engine with an engine in it. 19:04:32 <Zuu> andythenorth_: so a vehicle is not a real vehicle that drive around in the game (+ smoke vehicles etc)? 19:04:37 <NGC3982> Engiception. 19:05:09 <andythenorth_> Zuu: a vehicle has an ID, and instances of it can be created 19:05:13 <andythenorth_> hmm 19:05:21 <andythenorth_> not sure of best way to answer this question :) 19:05:41 <Zuu> For AI/GS, 'engine' defines a vehicle type. When you buy an engine, you get a vehicle. 19:05:54 <Zuu> Vehicles are what companies have. 19:06:38 <andythenorth_> same for newgrf 19:06:42 <Zuu> Eg. the Turbo Tunner is an engine. While Road Vehicle #1 is a vehicle. 19:06:46 <andythenorth_> not all vehicles appear in buy menu 19:07:26 <Zuu> A vehicle shouldn't appear in the buy menu. Only engines. 19:07:44 <andythenorth_> ? 19:07:44 <andythenorth_> wagons? 19:08:15 <Zuu> wagons are probably an engine or wagons. I don't know. I haven't used the rail part of AI API. 19:08:35 <andythenorth_> to newgrf, they're just vehicles 19:08:46 <Zuu> Yea, wagons are engines. 19:09:10 <Zuu> (if they are not built) 19:09:19 <Zuu> If you build them, you get a vehicle. 19:31:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6C4C2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:37:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A494.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:05 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-208-249.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:56:16 <andythenorth_> lots of games from 1983 are not awesome 19:56:25 * andythenorth_ is playing BBC Micro Emulator :P 20:07:25 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:09:43 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 20:10:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:11:00 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 20:13:05 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/AzKjj.png 20:13:15 <NGC3982> I have for some reason started to use stations like this. 20:13:28 <NGC3982> Instead of the fork in-fork out system. 20:14:22 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 20:17:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:17:47 <Wolf01> hello 20:18:26 <Supercheese> salve 20:18:36 <frosch123> night 20:18:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f6127.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:06 <Supercheese> It's amazing how you notice typos so easily... days and days after you've made them, and not before 20:55:31 <Terkhen> good night 20:55:39 <Supercheese> vale, dormiture 20:58:02 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:02:42 *** PaperEngineer [~quassel@nat-ee.ucl.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:03:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: that's because when you still know the text immediately after writing it, the brain does a lot of autocorrection towards what you wanted to write 21:04:05 <Supercheese> Yeah, I think there was a university study about that 21:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> also: murphy's law says that you spot the typo right after it printed (or commited, ...) 21:09:26 <planetmaker> it never is different ;-) 21:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause> one of you has to change his name... it's impossible to distinguish two people with the same colour... 21:13:32 <Supercheese> eh? 21:14:19 <PaperEngineer> Hi people. I am trying to get OpenTTD working on my office PC. I can't connect to a friend's dedicated server. I can connect from my personal laptop, but I get errors about UDP socket type failed? Any advice? 21:14:36 <Supercheese> Net work issues, oh man 21:14:39 <Supercheese> those are a pain to diagnose 21:14:43 <Supercheese> network* 21:14:57 <PaperEngineer> Would you be willing to help me a little? 21:15:21 <Supercheese> I personally don't do much multiplayer 21:15:31 <Supercheese> I'm not really qualified 21:15:34 <Eddi|zuHause> PaperEngineer: potentially a firewall issue, or an IPv6 issue 21:15:43 <PaperEngineer> I get this: dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 0, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type udp failed: Address family for hostname not supported 21:17:32 *** chester_ [~chester@95-25-189-172.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:27:27 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:31:07 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:32:08 <NGC3982> Bah. 21:50:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A3A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:43 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:04:53 *** sla_ro|master [slaco@78.96.213.97] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 22:18:21 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.85.141] has joined #openttd 22:24:43 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:24:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:28:40 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:30:56 *** Wold [~Wold@93-152-170-93.ddns.onlinedirect.bg] has joined #openttd 22:39:02 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:04 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:05 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:46 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 23:10:02 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-4-56.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:14:16 <BadBrett> hmm... any idea whay ctrl+b won't work for me? i'm sure i've used that feature before 23:15:49 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-118-232.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:07 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08ebd0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 23:18:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:43:32 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7837:89d2:aab6:edfc] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:38 *** Kjetil [kjetil@161.81-166-7.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46:50 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7837:89d2:aab6:edfc] has joined #openttd 23:46:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 23:51:08 *** Beardie [~chatzilla@cpc8-pres13-2-0-cust118.pres.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 23:51:53 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:33 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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