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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 01:19:41 *** Knogle^AFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 01:19:41 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:00:12 *** Owner [~chatzilla@dhcp-lp-130-49-26-19.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu] has joined #openttd 02:00:22 *** Owner is now known as Qoph 02:02:32 <Qoph> Hello, I'm having an issue where I can't download any online content. The download is stuck displaying "Requesting files..." 02:02:45 <Supercheese> Firewall blocking? 02:03:02 <Supercheese> No wait 02:03:09 <Supercheese> you wouldn't be able to see the list if it was 02:03:33 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:51a0:97a4:d2bc:80b0] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:03:52 <Qoph> I'm running Windows 7, firewall is symantec endpoint 02:04:23 <Supercheese> You've been able to successfully download previously, correct? 02:04:31 <Supercheese> or is this your first attempt? 02:04:39 <Qoph> No, I just got the game today and I was trying to download some AIs 02:04:46 <Supercheese> ah, first attempt 02:04:49 <Supercheese> hmm 02:06:00 <Supercheese> Well, I'm not an expert in networking issues, unfortunately 02:06:43 <Qoph> I can wait, I was going to go to the gym for a bit anyways 02:16:14 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:54 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 02:24:18 <Qoph> Well I was able to download the file ... but not via the in game menu. Could someone tell me how to add it manually? 02:25:01 *** pugi_ [~pugi@host-091-097-015-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 02:30:56 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-021-213.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:57 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 02:51:44 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.146] has joined #openttd 02:54:13 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@74.198.9.146] has quit [] 03:33:19 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.84.124] has joined #openttd 04:17:40 <Supercheese> For downloaded grfs: http://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF#Manual_install 04:21:59 <Qoph> weird, one managed to download at some point but I can't repeat it 04:22:05 <Qoph> Well at least I got one 04:22:33 <Supercheese> generally GRFs and AIs are available from both the in-game content downloader and the TT-forums 04:24:04 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-49-78.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 04:52:06 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-105-20.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4EC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6754C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:23:52 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:47:35 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:03:55 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 06:09:41 *** Knogle^AFK is now known as Knogle 06:29:42 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 06:59:53 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-193-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 07:14:45 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 07:17:34 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-26-41.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:17:50 *** Qoph [~chatzilla@dhcp-lp-130-49-26-19.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu] has quit [Quit: cats - we're always watching] 07:20:37 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:23:54 *** Qoph [~chatzilla@dhcp-lp-130-49-26-19.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu] has joined #openttd 07:25:08 <Qoph> Just to restate my issue with new info ... I can't download content with the ingame system, it gets stuck saying "Requesting files". I was somehow able to download the AIAI file at some point, but I'm not sure how. I keep getting this issue even when I turn my firewall off completely. 07:28:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:30:40 <planetmaker> Qoph, what URL do you end up with when you go with your browser to binaries.openttd.org? 07:30:58 <planetmaker> and which files do you try to download? 07:31:16 <Terkhen> good morning 07:31:25 <planetmaker> hello Terkhen 07:31:29 <Qoph> I get a directory with bananas, custom, extra, nightlies, releases, scenerios, robots.txt 07:31:38 <Qoph> and I tried to download simpleAI 07:31:40 <planetmaker> URL... 07:31:54 <Qoph> Oh sorry, misread that 07:31:58 <Qoph> http://us.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/index.html 07:34:22 <planetmaker> ok, it's not the server then 07:34:27 <planetmaker> wanted to make sure that 07:35:05 <planetmaker> there are several which are used and you're transparently directed to the one closest to you 07:35:12 <planetmaker> (and which is least busy) 07:36:00 <Qoph> can you download things? just wondering 07:36:26 <planetmaker> yes. just tried that 07:37:32 <planetmaker> @ports 07:37:32 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 07:37:43 <planetmaker> ^^ you have those ports available? 07:39:35 <Qoph> Yeah I found that on the forums and I tried to make exceptions for those 07:39:44 <Qoph> But maybe if I make it more specific 07:41:12 <NGC3982> Yes, that should work. Point your finger at the router and stare intently at it, while you in a hard tone say: "THREE. NINE. SEVEN. NINE. That's an order!1" 07:43:04 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 07:43:13 <Qoph> do I need to specify the application? 07:43:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:45:17 <NGC3982> Qoph: In a normal router - No, you shouldn't. 07:45:41 <Qoph> I'm using symantec endpoint. cause my school requires it to connect. 07:46:04 <Qoph> tried a single rule for every port but it didnt' fix anything 07:46:10 <NGC3982> Hm. 07:46:22 <Qoph> But like I said, disabling the firewall didn't fix it either 07:48:28 <planetmaker> does your router allow the ports? 07:48:45 <Qoph> Dunno, I just plug in the ethernet cable 07:48:58 <Qoph> and there's a wizard for the connection settings 07:50:26 <planetmaker> well. I don't know your local network setup. But usually people stumble over their pc's firewall and / or their router's firewall, not being aware of one or the other 07:50:41 <planetmaker> how to solve either issue is beyond me, as I know not your hard and software setup 07:57:31 <NGC3982> My experience is that the Windows firewall doesn't prevent much without the user actively stoping it. 07:57:38 <NGC3982> I would go to an administrator 07:58:01 <Qoph> I went to the windows firewall settings and added exceptions, didn't help 07:58:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Qoph: if you are at home, the router is usually a small blinking box next to the telephone 07:58:47 <Qoph> I'm at school, I don't have a router 07:58:54 <Qoph> At least, not a visible one 07:59:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Qoph: if you are at school, the router is usually inaccessible to you 07:59:42 <NGC3982> Something tells me that you can not setup port forwarding in a School firewall setup without administrator priviliges. 08:00:03 <Yexo> that shouldn't be necesary for downloading files from the online content service 08:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause> schools usually have very strict port blocks 08:00:43 <Yexo> it's possible port 3978 is blocked, sure 08:00:54 <Yexo> but if so that's almost for certain in the router, not in the local pc 08:01:10 <Qoph> I could send a request about it, I guess. 08:01:21 <Qoph> Or, is there some way to configure the port it uses? 08:02:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Qoph: not for "ordinary people" 08:03:38 <Qoph> what does that mean? 08:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> Qoph: there may be an entry in openttd.cfg about using HTTP for download 08:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause> try flipping the setting "no_http_content_downloads" 08:04:45 <Qoph> where would I find that? 08:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> you quit openttd 08:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> then go to "My Documents\OpenTTD" 08:05:19 <Eddi|zuHause> there you edit openttd.cfg 08:05:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and restart openttd 08:05:33 <Eddi|zuHause> then try again 08:06:05 <NGC3982> That switch was new to me. 08:06:45 <Qoph> switched it from false to true, trying again 08:07:21 <Qoph> holy shit that worked 08:07:23 <Qoph> thanks man 08:08:09 * planetmaker didn't even remember that setting... 08:08:18 <planetmaker> legacy stuff... 08:08:50 <NGC3982> How can that be turned on without manual alternation, anyway? 08:09:04 <planetmaker> not 08:09:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you can also flip it from the console, but i doubt there's a GUI entry 08:09:18 <planetmaker> though... via rcon 08:09:28 <planetmaker> it's not supposed to have a GUI entry 08:09:55 <planetmaker> s/rcon/console - as eddi said :-) 08:10:08 <NGC3982> That's why im a bit confused on that setting being turned on in the first place 08:10:09 <NGC3982> :) 08:14:31 <planetmaker> NGC3982, iirc the old, first protocol for bananas was to not use http. That unconditionally accesses the main server 08:14:57 <planetmaker> current versions do use http which allows us to use load balancing and mirrors to distribute downloads to the closest source 08:15:08 <planetmaker> iirc :-) 08:15:18 <NGC3982> Ah, i see. 08:15:21 <NGC3982> Sounds logical. 08:15:29 <planetmaker> it's networking and not the area of I'm very familiar with 08:30:07 <peter1138> Uh, that reminds me, does it automatically failover? 08:39:12 <NGC3982> 'Failover'? 08:41:47 <peter1138> Detect if a server is down and automatically not use it. 08:42:20 <planetmaker> I think not 08:44:46 <peter1138> Damn. 08:45:50 <peter1138> I'm trying to diagnose this load issue I'm having on my server, so I've disabled LXC guests. Which includes the mirror. I still need to reconfigure the host to serve the content instead. Sadly it takes a week or so just to see if the problem pops up again. :-( 08:52:22 <Qoph> i dunno whats funnier, that the AI made over 150 trucks or that they named all their towns random numbers 08:52:39 <NGC3982> How Matrix-ish. 08:53:42 <Qoph> that and they're driving on a road that spans the continent 09:01:09 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:09:34 <peter1138> Oh bah, I fancied playing a game with high water (higher than high) and then realised you need cargo destinations to make it fun :-( 09:22:36 <Qoph> the AI just built two airports in the same city <_< 09:22:41 <Qoph> well time for bed anyways 09:27:37 *** Qoph [~chatzilla@dhcp-lp-130-49-26-19.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu] has quit [Quit: cats - we're always watching] 09:31:26 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: not entirely sure how the water is relevant there :p 09:31:56 <NGC3982> peter1138: Cargo destinations? 09:33:12 <andythenorth> fix up YACD :P 09:33:47 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, lots of water means different transport methods involved, therefore good for it. 09:33:52 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:34:15 <peter1138> How much fixing does it need? 09:34:17 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: i meant, _any_ game is "unfun" without destinations, water or not :) 09:34:23 <peter1138> Pff! 09:35:06 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: YACD has performance troubles, and needs a more intelligent algorithm 09:35:38 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:45 <peter1138> I guess it's out of date now too? 09:36:19 <andythenorth> yes 09:36:29 <andythenorth> although it was / is pretty awesome all the same 09:36:30 <peter1138> :-( 09:36:37 <andythenorth> just play an older rev :P 09:36:42 <peter1138> Heresy! 09:36:48 <andythenorth> we need a cheaper routing algorithm 09:36:58 <peter1138> Is it something that throwing memory at it would help? 09:37:05 <andythenorth> ask michi_cc 09:37:06 <andythenorth> :) 09:37:34 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: there's a thread in the forum 09:39:00 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1049700#p1049700 something around here 09:40:18 <peter1138> Ah repo is ancient ;-( 09:41:25 <NGC3982> What was the name of that NewGRF with that nice city graphics 09:41:35 <NGC3982> Lame questions, but that's all i got :( 09:42:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know any NewGRF with nice city graphics 09:42:53 <NGC3982> Im trying to google it, but im failing on what to search for. 09:43:16 <peter1138> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list&cid=3 09:43:22 <NGC3982> Total Town Replacement! 10:14:46 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 10:14:47 *** dfox [~dfox@89.177.105.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:15 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: for the love of god this is not safe for work] 11:01:27 <MNIM> NGC3982: TTRS is nice, but last time I tried, incompatible with current versions. 11:02:35 <Ammler> MNIM: you sure, you use the updated one? 11:02:56 <MNIM> I don't know. it's been a while, to be honest. 11:03:34 <planetmaker> TTRS is incompatible with what exactly? 11:03:54 <Ammler> there are 2 sequels afaik, the one updated by ^ and ECSHouses 11:03:57 <planetmaker> (it should work out-of-box and should even play nice with FIRS (but not ECS) 11:08:01 <NGC3982> MNIM: Current versions of what? OpenTTD? 11:08:31 <NGC3982> Im currently using TTRS with FIRS on 1.2.1 11:08:36 <NGC3982> No issues, what i can see. 11:08:54 <NGC3982> Not that 1.2.1 is ..new or something. 11:09:11 <planetmaker> sufficiently new ;-) 11:09:16 <Ammler> I assume, the erros MNIM experienced are the the reason pm made the bugfix relase 11:09:20 <planetmaker> (in this context) 11:09:35 <planetmaker> I call it feature release :D 11:09:41 <Ammler> :-P 11:10:12 <peter1138> ? 11:10:22 <planetmaker> ! 11:10:26 <Ammler> . 11:11:52 <peter1138> ¡ 11:12:21 <peter1138> ¿ 11:12:34 <Markk> ã 11:13:32 <Eddi|zuHause> ß 11:15:40 *** lugo [bc6f57fe@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:16:17 *** Leto` [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Qupada] 11:26:01 <NGC3982> And you people on my off-topics. 11:26:05 <NGC3982> Oops. 11:26:11 <NGC3982> And you people whine on my off-topics. 11:26:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:27:44 *** Fremen [~muhweb@178-118-106-89.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:31:26 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:55 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 11:34:38 *** IvY [~ivy@78.111.76.67] has joined #openttd 11:37:28 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, Ammler, what i've been meaning to ask: in the commit diffs (email), can you set an explicit text colour in addition to the background colour? 11:39:57 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: https://hg.openttdcoop.org/devzone/files/default/vendor/plugins/redmine_diff_email/app/views/diff_mailer/diff_notification.text.html.rhtml 11:41:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "There is no file nor directory at the given path: 'vendor/plugins/redmine_diff_email/app/views/diff_mailer/diff_notification.text.html.rhtml' at revision 'cffb826a282c'" 11:43:20 <Ammler> https://hg.openttdcoop.org/devzone/files/08b0051f565ca78d1af17a4d043d45a65417eecf/vendor/plugins/redmine_diff_email/app/views/diff_mailer/diff_notification.text.html.rhtml 11:43:30 <Ammler> wrong branch 11:44:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "<%= format_diff @diff %>" <-- must be in there somehow 11:49:54 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: possible it isn't a mail issue and generic diff format? 11:50:30 <Eddi|zuHause> very possible. just on the website it's wrapped into a generic style, so the issue doesn't show 11:51:38 <Eddi|zuHause> (issue being a surrounding style of light text on dark background, which makes text unreadable if background colour gets changed, but text colour not) 11:54:40 <MNIM> Ammler: I assume the same - around that time TTRS was quite dead as far as I could see, so I never bothered following it since. 11:55:12 <planetmaker> ttrs is still "dead". I just fixed it so that I can use it along with FIRS 11:55:35 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: can you post screenshot? 11:55:38 <planetmaker> and added the new meta-info so that it gets nicer descriptions ingame 11:55:48 <planetmaker> and readme view etc 11:56:06 <Ammler> for me, the diffs looks nice in the mails 11:57:24 <Ammler> text is black, background is white,green or pink 11:57:57 <planetmaker> luckily the original authors of ttrs posessed enough foresight to allow people do this to ttrs :-) 11:58:17 <Ammler> like https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/81/repository/revisions/2040/diff 11:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmfoto18.png 11:59:01 <Ammler> yep, that isn't readable 11:59:30 <Eddi|zuHause> bright text on dark background being my regular KDE theme 12:00:18 <Ammler> oh, so basically it should also define body background color and text 12:00:57 <Eddi|zuHause> it would suffice to do that around the diffs, not needed in the "normal" text 12:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and the text in the +/- line is monospaced, but in the unchanged lines is not 12:01:30 <Ammler> well, I pasted the part which I could edit without issue 12:01:48 <Ammler> basically add css styles there 12:02:10 <planetmaker> possibly it should send plain text e-mails? :-) 12:02:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: how do you colorize those? 12:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't ;) 12:02:48 <Ammler> you would prefer raw diffs? 12:02:49 <planetmaker> an intelligent programme sees a diff and uses the proper syntax highlighting 12:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> but it could send the raw diff in the text part 12:03:24 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: well, you know :-D 12:03:36 <Ammler> (patch is always welcome) 12:03:55 <Eddi|zuHause> currently it's a html-only mail. if it were a two-part mail... :) 12:04:12 <Eddi|zuHause> but that has nothing to do with my problem 12:04:22 <Ammler> I think so too 12:04:40 <Ammler> a quick fix might be to simply add background color 12:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, around the "<%= format_diff @diff %>" add background colour, text colour, and monospace font tags 12:06:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:08:25 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: but sorry, your email reader is crap 12:08:43 <Eddi|zuHause> no, why would it? 12:08:51 <Ammler> or do you really like to "override" the html specs of html pages 12:09:10 <Ammler> do you do that with your internet browser too? 12:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> do what? 12:09:33 <Ammler> override the html style with your custom whatever 12:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause> if the website does not set any colours, the OS colours are used 12:09:54 <Ammler> my mail looks like this: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/81/repository/revisions/2040/diff 12:09:55 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:10:23 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: you change the fonts 12:10:32 <Ammler> you don't use the font defined in the body 12:10:47 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10:54 <Ammler> <body style=3D"font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 1em; color:#4=84848;"> 12:12:04 <Ammler> looks broken 12:12:08 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, not sure why it ignores that 12:12:16 <Ammler> 3D? 12:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause> remnant of a colour code, i presume? 12:13:15 <Ammler> but where does that come from, it's not in the template I posted 12:13:58 <Ammler> you have that in your email source too? 12:14:01 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@supporter.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 12:14:10 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:14:14 <si-m1> 3D is hex for = 12:14:24 <si-m1> in ascii 12:14:56 <Eddi|zuHause> so the = is some kind of escape symbol? 12:15:17 <Ammler> so redmine does encode it wrongly or my gamil decode? 12:15:58 <Ammler> the error is at redmine, I would think and Eddi|zuHause mail client is just a bit stricter 12:16:08 <si-m1> probably mimedecode failure somewhere 12:16:42 <Eddi|zuHause> it arrives like that in the raw email code 12:17:30 <Ammler> let me check, if there are newer versions available 12:18:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't seem wrong, because inside the table stuff it looks the same way, and it applies colours etc. 12:18:40 <Eddi|zuHause> <th style=3D"border: 1px solid #d7d7d7; font-size: 0.8em; tex= 12:18:41 <Eddi|zuHause> t-align: right; width: 2%; padding-right: 3px; color: #999;">20</th> 12:19:01 <Ammler> last commit 2009 :-) 12:20:07 <Ammler> someone else using the email_diff feature of devzone? 12:20:43 <Ammler> I might not have the most represantive mail client to compare with :-) 12:20:46 <si-m1> right, =3D is the same as "=" in quoted printable encode 12:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so the =3D is definitely not the issue 12:21:12 <Ammler> ok 12:21:34 <Ammler> so again back to blame your client? 12:22:20 <Eddi|zuHause> well, not entirely. since even if it would set the text colour according to the body style, the text would again be unreadable because the body doesn't specify background colour 12:22:58 <Ammler> yeah, I just fear, I could not fix your font issue, can I 12:23:13 <Ammler> adding background color to body should be no big deal 12:23:27 <Ammler> or to the diff table 12:30:40 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:36:52 *** IvY [~ivy@78.111.76.67] has left #openttd [] 12:38:34 *** dfox [~dfox@rei.ipv6.dfox.org] has joined #openttd 12:51:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:19:41 *** Knogle^AFK [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 13:19:41 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:43 *** BadBrett [~Bad_Brett@90-227-32-82-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 13:25:25 <Belugas> helo 13:26:48 *** Knogle^AFK is now known as Knogle 13:27:09 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 13:33:13 *** player1 [~he@host-148.146-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has joined #openttd 13:45:41 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:37 *** player1 [~he@host-148.146-43-115.dynamic.totalbb.net.tw] has left #openttd [] 13:46:44 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 13:59:32 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 13:59:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:03:38 <__ln__> what really happened: http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/250534_540256942666803_1014710167_n.jpg 14:04:52 <peter1138> uh huh 14:05:47 *** szaman [szaman@merkury.cenzor.pl] has joined #openttd 14:09:52 *** Mercator [50bcbcaa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:10:34 *** Mercator [50bcbcaa@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [] 14:21:19 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: brb] 14:21:31 *** Knogle [knogle@1604ds5-soeb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:47:07 *** Ponko [d92b2e4e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:47:28 <Ponko> hey guys and gals :) 14:48:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:49:28 <planetmaker> 'lo 14:49:57 <Ponko> does anyone know how i can download OpenTTD i know how to download it but i'm having problems with getting anything to appear my browsers (using about 3 atm) i just get a load error :/ 14:50:09 <Ponko> and hello to you planetmaker :P 14:50:46 <planetmaker> http://www.openttd.org/download-stable should give you a webpage to select the download you need 14:50:53 <Ponko> thanks 14:51:17 <Ponko> i'm surprised it's not working on the browsers i'm using 14:51:20 <planetmaker> (works for me) 14:51:33 <Ponko> if it was IE then yeah i'd get it lol :P 14:52:07 <planetmaker> I guess last time I used... hm, IE is not the last millenium. It was after I setup windows 7. To download firefox :-P 14:52:59 <Ponko> lol but i'm using firefox and i get the Problem loading page :/ 14:53:14 <planetmaker> does it work for other pages? 14:53:26 <planetmaker> it = your browser 14:53:41 <Ponko> tried chrome and safari 14:53:52 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects can you see for instant that page? 14:54:22 <Ponko> and IE is just spamming me with the not responding window 14:55:06 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-114.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:55:40 <planetmaker> can you access https://www.ovh.de/ 14:55:41 <Ponko> i mean i can see the page to download the installer & zip archive but they will not load 14:56:38 <planetmaker> sorry... what exactly won't load? 14:56:45 <Ponko> eine problem Ich bin Englander :P wohnt im Schottland (yes my german is bad) 14:56:57 <Ponko> ok one sec 14:57:25 <planetmaker> I'm also not asking you to read the page(s), but to tell me whether they show meaningful content... 14:57:48 <Ponko> oh sorry lol 15:00:32 <planetmaker> hm... what URL do you get when you enter binaries.openttd.org into your browser, Ponko ? 15:00:38 <planetmaker> what URL does it resolve to? 15:00:50 * planetmaker looks at peter1138 15:03:18 <planetmaker> Ponko, ^^ please check which URL you get for binaries.openttd.org. The mirror you get directed to might be down 15:04:09 <Ponko> "The server at gb.binaries.openttd.org is taking too long to respond" 15:04:21 * planetmaker kicks peter1138 :-P 15:04:29 <Ponko> http://gb.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/index.html and this is the URL 15:04:29 <planetmaker> try master.binaries.openttd.org 15:04:58 <Ponko> a HA progress :D 15:05:20 <planetmaker> thank your fellow countrymen :-P 15:05:42 <Ponko> thought you were german :P 15:05:50 <Ponko> lol 15:06:04 <Ponko> or am i missing something... lol 15:06:16 <planetmaker> I am. But the gb mirror is down... giving you the issue. He's doing maintenance on it without disabling it in the balancer ;-) 15:07:43 <Ponko> AHHH hence why the installer won't run right? 15:08:18 <planetmaker> you're directed to the closest download-URL, the gb.binaries.o.o - but that is down 15:08:34 <Ponko> and yeah my german isn't the best need to brush but to clear any confusion i am English but can speak German a little 15:08:51 <planetmaker> I gave you that link to ovh.de as they host our server. 15:09:02 <planetmaker> not because I'm German... 15:09:22 <Ponko> AHHHH right got ya :P 15:09:47 <planetmaker> my first guess was that their logo screws up something (though it shouldn't or ever did) 15:10:13 <peter1138> ^ works now 15:10:21 * planetmaker hugs peter1138 15:10:50 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [... und tschÃŒÃ!] 15:10:56 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:10:59 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 15:11:02 <peter1138> that much excitement? :p 15:11:09 <planetmaker> meh, yeah :-( 15:12:05 <Ponko> well for me too but can't do the hugs :( 15:12:16 * Ponko hugs air 15:12:26 <Ponko> ah yes i know now :P 15:12:27 <peter1138> why not? 15:12:38 <Ponko> forgot how to :P 15:12:45 * Ponko hugs peter1138 15:13:33 <Ponko> gonna go back to chrome 15:13:43 <planetmaker> then this is for you, Ponko: http://www.thenicestplaceontheinter.net/ ;-) 15:14:30 <Ponko> lol thanks 15:14:38 *** Ponko [d92b2e4e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:14:49 *** Ponko [d92b2e4e@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:15:02 <Ponko> and chromed 15:15:27 <peter1138> hmm, need to fix for those annoying downloaders that make 500 million requests for the same file instead of just waiting 15:17:15 <Ponko> well it's made my weekdays alot more bearable 15:17:25 <peter1138> which apparently apache does not support out of the box o_O 15:19:03 <Ponko> did you jump on it? 15:19:11 <Ponko> if not that's why :P 15:19:34 <Ponko> and why's that? look up the song apache :P 15:19:36 <SpComb> peter1138: iptables --limit-rate? 15:19:39 <Ponko> sorry had to 15:20:39 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.84.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:40 <NGC3982> planetmaker: That site feels so "Comfy at first, Then attack NSFW" 15:23:03 <planetmaker> nsfw? 15:23:32 <Ponko> not safe for web 15:23:35 * MNIM clicked for the nsfw, is disappointed 15:23:36 <Ponko> or work 15:23:52 <planetmaker> oh right :-) 15:28:14 <Ponko> man i'm tired 15:29:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@94.13.8.182] has joined #openttd 15:30:40 <NGC3982> One grows a natural suspicion of unnaturally nice URLs, after a few years on the intarwebz. 15:35:39 <peter1138> heh 15:35:40 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.84.124] has joined #openttd 15:37:58 <Elukka> http://www.shadyurl.com/ 15:38:05 <Elukka> this can fix your too-nice urls 15:40:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 15:40:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:24 <peter1138> ... 15:47:30 <peter1138> there isn't a "download all" button, is there? 15:47:51 <NGC3982> Yes, there is. 15:48:21 <NGC3982> Or wait, in what context? 15:48:44 * blathijs gives peter1138 a "Download the internet" button 15:53:28 <peter1138> context is openttd content window 15:54:24 <NGC3982> Then no, there is no "download all" button. The download-button although downloads everything you have marked,. 15:54:27 <NGC3982> -, 15:55:40 <Eddi|zuHause> there only is a "download all" button when you look at the dependencies of a savegame 15:55:59 <Eddi|zuHause> but not in the generic content downloader 15:56:44 *** lugo [bc6f57fe@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:01:44 *** Ponko [d92b2e4e@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:18:26 <LordAro> evening alls 16:18:59 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:23:43 *** George is now known as Guest1820 16:23:47 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 16:24:21 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:29:04 *** Guest1820 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:08 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-105-20.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:29:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5508.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:14 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@wirenat2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:27 <andythenorth> crocodile! http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=411941&nseq=3 16:37:30 *** keoz [~keikoz@79.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:18 *** cipper_sorti [~a.h.abd@197.195.94.112] has joined #openttd 16:39:28 <FLHerne> Nice-looking thing :-) 16:40:32 *** cipper_sorti [~a.h.abd@197.195.94.112] has left #openttd [] 16:41:21 <FLHerne> Electric locos with coupling rods have always looked rather odd to me, but very interesting :P 16:44:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:10 <andythenorth> which climate is this? http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=411996&nseq=5 16:48:45 <planetmaker> not temperate ;-) 16:49:22 <FLHerne> Well, looks a bit deserty. No rainforests though... 16:50:02 *** Guilux [~Guilux@chenapan.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:50:11 <planetmaker> unless it's tundra ;-) 16:51:56 <FLHerne> What, in Utah? 16:52:08 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db137a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:54:39 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.84.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:09 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:16:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AACB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:20 <NGC3982> Is there any way for me to find out the complete size (in bytes) of everything housed in the Online Content at a given moment? 17:17:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-49-78.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 17:35:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:35:23 <Wolf01> hello o/ 17:37:09 <planetmaker> NGC3982, for things on the server: no. for you locally what you have from it: yes 17:38:55 *** Zuu [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has joined #openttd 17:39:27 *** Zuu is now known as Guest1832 17:39:42 *** Guest1832 is now known as Zuu__ 17:40:00 <NGC3982> I see 17:40:01 <NGC3982> Thanks. 17:41:20 <planetmaker> remains also the question: what is "everything"? 17:42:03 <planetmaker> current versions? All available versions? 17:43:19 <planetmaker> (the latter won't help you as you will only get old versions, if you know their md5sum) 17:45:17 <NGC3982> Are all available versions downloadable in the Online Content instance? 17:45:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24596 /trunk/src/lang (5 files) (2012-10-15 17:45:30 UTC) 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:43 <DorpsGek> belarusian - 5 changes by KorneySan 17:45:44 <DorpsGek> danish - 18 changes by Knogle 17:45:45 <DorpsGek> french - 6 changes by glx 17:45:46 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 5 changes by Stabilitronas 17:45:47 <DorpsGek> norwegian_nynorsk - 5 changes by 2rB 17:50:30 <Sacro> \o/ 17:52:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:54:47 <Rubidium> Sacro: that wasn't a Bjarni 17:55:04 <Rubidium> planetmaker: why couldn't he? He just needs to become a developer ;) 17:55:19 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 17:55:19 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 1 week, 2 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 17:56:14 <Prof_Frink> Onion Bjarni? 17:56:51 <Sacro> Capn_Frink? 17:57:58 <andythenorth> nobody wants to talk about cargo subtypes? 17:58:20 * Prof_Frink has Sacro walk the plank 17:58:46 <NGC3982> Total Town Replacement <3. 18:00:54 <Rubidium> andythenorth: I'd like to play my ignorance card on that subject 18:01:39 * NGC3982 would like to discuss that. 18:01:45 <andythenorth> you don't know about them? Or you don't know if anybody wants to talk about them? 18:01:56 <andythenorth> they're like our dirty little secret 18:02:01 <andythenorth> it's time for an intervention 18:02:33 <NGC3982> Intermission? 18:02:37 <NGC3982> Masturbation? 18:02:43 <NGC3982> Instigation. 18:02:48 <Rubidium> andythenorth: they're a pitb 18:03:14 <andythenorth> frosch123: would the sky fall if subtypes died? 18:04:34 *** Hyronymus1 [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:08:03 <planetmaker> Rubidium, well, maybe then :-) (but then... not sure I could find out in the next 30 minutes... missing knowledge) 18:09:51 <Rubidium> missing uri, password & sql skills? 18:10:21 * andythenorth seeks alberth 18:10:26 <planetmaker> all of that, I assume, yes 18:10:48 <Rubidium> 629178534 18:11:10 <Rubidium> (compressed) 18:11:23 <planetmaker> that's a bit :-) 18:11:32 *** Hyronymus [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:13 <Rubidium> 60028910 downloads (que?) 18:12:16 <planetmaker> so social engineering is faster than data mining :-P 18:13:24 <Rubidium> 518226 downloads of binaryheap (half a million users?) 18:13:35 * Rubidium scratches head 18:14:07 <planetmaker> binaryheap... what's that? 18:14:22 <Rubidium> an AI library 18:14:27 <planetmaker> o_O 18:15:10 <planetmaker> though... it's in bananas for ages, I guess. And including all re-installs and re-downloads... maybe 250000 users? 18:15:34 <Rubidium> 23 912 445 581 786 total bananas download size 18:15:42 <andythenorth> what was the question? o_O 18:19:47 <Rubidium> how many bytes there were on bananas 18:20:05 <Rubidium> seems like firs wasted 60 GiB and fish 90 GiB of bandwidth 18:20:29 <Rubidium> 1316 GiB for OpenGFX from bananas 18:21:31 * Rubidium got the feeling the numbers are totally wrong 18:22:32 * andythenorth is determined to avoid ever using **kwargs or such 18:23:39 *** DanM [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:23 <frosch123> andythenorth: http://img.fotocommunity.com/images/Emotionen/Melancholie/Wenn-der-Himmel-auf-den-Kopf-faellt-a25547659.jpg <- appropiate backup strategy? 18:29:00 <frosch123> http://www.strubeli.ch/typo3temp/pics/658c8f3bc2.jpg <- oh, wait, i forgot this is the internet 18:29:06 <frosch123> more appropiate picture 18:35:27 *** Zuu__ [~chatzilla@212.28.207.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:39 <MNIM> So. It looks like I thought up a new junction for high-speed train lines. 18:40:27 <FLHerne> MNIM: Are you sure? :P 18:40:37 <MNIM> as I said, looks like. 18:40:40 <FLHerne> Most of them have already been invented ;-) 18:40:59 <MNIM> I'll post a shot as soon as I finish signaling it 18:44:53 <NGC3982> kitties! \o/ 18:50:04 <planetmaker> kitties? https://picasaweb.google.com/107191069901530811927/Beobachtungen#5799609773767159746 18:50:43 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-66-108-49-78.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:51:32 <MNIM> http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/1/2248324/OTTD/New%20Brudinghattan%20Transport%2C%2026th%20Jun%201930.png 18:53:23 <andythenorth> frosch123: can we remove subtypes, and post a kitten picture in the newgrf spec? 18:53:26 <MNIM> it's a high-speed mainline/branchline crossing, minimum turn length 5, size 40X22 (increases by 4x2 for 6 long turns) 18:57:59 <Wolf01> I'll would do some modifications, I bet you can remove at least 4 tunnels 18:58:32 <Pinkbeast> Also, why does the mainline divert such a long way? 18:58:49 <MNIM> to keep the signal gap small. 18:59:00 <Pinkbeast> I don't get it. 18:59:36 <Pinkbeast> OIC, to avoid long tunnels? 19:00:03 <MNIM> yeah 19:00:08 <MNIM> or bridges. 19:00:39 <FLHerne> Surely you could just have two parallel tunnels for each track, and have them almost twice as long? 19:00:51 *** frosch [~frosch@frnk-590f67b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:45 <MNIM> well, two twice as long tunnels cost more money than one... 19:02:11 <MNIM> though, granted, at that kind of expected throughputs, I suppose money is not an issue any more. 19:03:16 <FLHerne> Er...yeah. Once you need a junction like that, the cost of a few tunnels is irrelevant :P 19:06:13 <peter1138> Rubidium, hard to get download stats when you don't get the logs 19:06:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590d5508.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:23 <MNIM> Hmmmh. You could put the inner mainlines through the middle at the cost of a couple of extra tunnels or bridges at the penalty of lessened throughput 19:19:54 *** telanus [~telanus@196-215-193-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has left #openttd [] 19:23:17 <Rubidium> peter1138: but we have a balancer that counts 19:24:36 <peter1138> yeah but it doesn't count failed attempts (like when my server is rebooting) and possibly those downloaders that connect millions of times 19:24:46 <peter1138> (though i assume they only connect to the redirected host) 19:28:08 <NGC3982> Im having a distribution problem. 19:28:36 <NGC3982> (FIRS) Oil makes Petrol makes Engineering Supplies makes more oil. 19:29:21 <NGC3982> The distances between the production of Engineering supplies and oil fields are vast. 19:30:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-119-203.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:30:17 <FLHerne> NGC3982: Make EngSup from something else then :P 19:30:20 <NGC3982> Something tells me distributing a transfer + trucks at each oil field will be a bit too much :/ 19:30:33 <NGC3982> :( 19:30:42 <NGC3982> Making it look good != Making it work good. 19:31:16 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/8zNZ2.png 19:32:22 <V453000> can be combined though :p 19:34:02 *** DanM [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-84-74.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:34:20 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:07 <NGC3982> Though. 19:36:20 <NGC3982> Speaking of trying to distribute enginering supplies accordingly. 19:36:38 <NGC3982> Using timetable to deliver a full truck load every 31 day, perhaps? 19:36:51 *** keoz [~keikoz@79.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 19:38:10 <FLHerne> NGC3982: Just use one of the million timetable-separation patches :P 19:39:15 <V453000> refit orders work best 19:39:24 <V453000> trains which brought raw cargo take away supplies 19:39:29 <V453000> no extra supplying trains 19:40:00 <Chris_Booth> Adding a single wagon on the end works weel 19:40:09 <V453000> or even that 19:40:46 <Chris_Booth> depends on the set 19:40:55 <Chris_Booth> NUTS will let you refit to anying 19:40:59 <Chris_Booth> but some may not 19:41:36 <V453000> well someone might hate to build a refit station so he might use the single wagon method 19:41:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D860.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:41:41 <V453000> not always enough space either 19:41:54 <V453000> and for TL5 that is only like 10% capacity loss 19:42:20 <V453000> so I would consider both options almost equal 19:42:21 <NGC3982> Neither. 19:42:34 <NGC3982> Im going to use a truck feeder. 19:43:18 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:59 *** Zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:13 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/7B8jF.png 19:44:16 <NGC3982> That should do it. 19:44:27 <NGC3982> The trucks have a 29 day wait at the EngSup station. 19:44:58 <V453000> you still have to send the train there 19:45:12 <NGC3982> I already have the trains for it 19:45:14 <V453000> which can be a bit many stations over the whole map 19:45:18 <NGC3982> The problem was distances 19:46:42 <V453000> idk how can distance be a real problem; I can see the issue systematically that if you have 50 of those stations how do you distribute the trians 19:47:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6CA19.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:47:36 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:48:04 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 19:48:08 <FLHerne> V453000: With CDist and a train visiting them all in order :-) 19:48:21 <NGC3982> The distances make me deliver lots of Engineering supplies, but with very great gaps in time 19:48:32 <V453000> oh yeah or you can apply idiotic CDist which solves it for you :) 19:48:45 <V453000> I didnt consider dumb solutions ;) 19:48:48 <FLHerne> CDist isn't idiotic :P 19:48:54 <NGC3982> CDist? 19:49:11 <FLHerne> Only thing which makes pax/mail transport any fun :D 19:49:27 <NGC3982> Bringing 850 tonnes of EngSup every 36 months isnt really as effective as delivering 1 every single month. 19:49:30 <NGC3982> And so on. 19:49:40 <V453000> exactly 19:49:57 <V453000> the beauty is to invent a mechanism which will do it effectively 19:50:00 <NGC3982> Thus, i guess this feeder system will work. 19:50:18 <V453000> but yeah you can use cargodist to let the game direct it for you 19:55:02 <NGC3982> That sounds automatic and useless. 19:58:10 <V453000> my thoughts :) 19:58:13 <V453000> +- 19:58:50 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c1a6:1f34:4311:9c2a] has joined #openttd 19:58:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:59:30 <andythenorth> oh screw all that engineering supply crap 19:59:35 <andythenorth> just get latest FIRS 19:59:40 <andythenorth> breaks your old savegames, but meh 20:01:34 <NGC3982> Im sorry, but understanding Engineering supplies correctly. The amount is completely irrelevant to the production? 20:01:55 <andythenorth> which FIRS version? 20:02:07 <NGC3982> 0.7.5 20:03:25 <andythenorth> yeah, amount required is unconnected to production 20:03:32 <andythenorth> at least 1t per month is all 20:03:57 <NGC3982> Though 20:04:01 <NGC3982> I realized something odd 20:04:39 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/RHsHJ.png 20:04:48 <NGC3982> For some reason, the trucks doesn't wait 29 days before leaving. 20:04:50 *** DanMacK [~AndChat61@CPE602ad091690d-CM602ad091690a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:09 <NGC3982> They have the orders to fill up. Does that void the timetable? 20:14:00 <peter1138> anyone playing a 1.2.2 mp game ? 20:15:15 <Rubidium> playing? 20:15:18 <peter1138> yeah 20:15:21 <andythenorth> stable version :o 20:16:14 <peter1138> yeah 20:18:07 <Rubidium> blasphemy 20:18:17 <peter1138> well 20:18:20 <peter1138> nightly? 20:18:46 <peter1138> yacd? :p 20:19:14 <Rubidium> how can you play/use your 'own' application? 20:19:48 <Rubidium> having said that... it's kinda late for me to start a game 20:21:07 <andythenorth> gah 20:21:16 * andythenorth might have use kwargs 20:21:17 <andythenorth> :( 20:24:14 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d108-180-123-63.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:17 <andythenorth> smells of cheating 20:31:28 <__ln__> what will the United Kingdom be called after Scotland declares independence? 20:31:54 <planetmaker> SmallBritain 20:35:12 <frosch> night 20:35:15 *** frosch [~frosch@frnk-590f67b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:25 <Prof_Frink> __ln__: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain (Except Scotland) and Northern Ireland", of course. 20:40:35 * NGC3982 actually lives in an area named "The tiny unions". 20:40:36 <NGC3982> :( 20:47:55 <peter1138> V453000, nah, don't have the nightly installed 20:48:15 <V453000> just join the irc channel and download the package :) 20:51:50 <andythenorth> hmm 20:52:06 <andythenorth> how long since advanced tilelayouts introduced? 20:53:41 <andythenorth> nvm 20:55:09 *** Hirogen2 [~mnxq@exit.inai.de] has joined #openttd 20:55:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:05:57 <Wolf01> 'night 21:06:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host11-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:06:28 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 21:08:12 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 21:11:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:43 *** mahmoud [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-105-20.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:30 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:35 <Terkhen> good night 21:31:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@host86-138-119-203.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121010150351]] 21:33:38 *** dada_ [~dada_@dhcp-077-250-097-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:39:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AACB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:28 *** Hyronymus1 [~Thunderbi@5ED1CCB7.cm-7-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Hyronymus1] 21:43:43 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@89.137.75.224] has quit [Quit: DANGER sla.ro is OFFLINE DANGER] 21:45:21 *** KouDy2 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:46:28 *** argoneus [~argoneus@ip-78-102-118-47.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:45 *** FLHerne [~francis_h@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:27 *** Ethereal [be9219a9@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:10:40 <Ethereal> :o 22:10:50 <Ethereal> is this the krusty krab? 22:15:51 <planetmaker> no. the rusty cap 22:16:20 <NGC3982> So much hilight 22:16:31 <Ethereal> :P 22:21:04 * NGC3982 is sometimes refered to as Rusty. 22:21:21 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:22:46 <Ethereal> i see 22:22:56 <Ethereal> well, i was just looking on the forums 22:23:34 <Ethereal> and i cant seem to find an explanation of why there is an industry who produces beer, yet there are no cargo for it 22:26:00 *** XeryusTC_ is now known as XeryusTC 22:26:24 <planetmaker> if you mean vehicle support instead of cargo: non-default cargos always require proper vehicle sets to be included into the game, too 22:29:53 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host217-43-26-41.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:16 <Ethereal> i see 22:36:30 <Ethereal> so i'll need to find a way to edit cargos 22:40:08 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:19 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db137a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 22:41:20 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@f72217.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:43:27 *** Ethereal [be9219a9@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:48:10 *** Ethereal [be9219a9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:48:12 *** Ethereal [be9219a9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 22:56:23 *** hmmwhatsthisdo [~hmmwhatst@h75-100-224-83.lactwa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 23:06:07 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:06:19 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 23:27:08 *** oace [~47c3ca8d@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:27:11 <oace> Hello 23:47:07 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-015-173.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:57:57 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.95.166] has joined #openttd 23:59:14 *** oace [~47c3ca8d@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed]