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00:02:15 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 00:03:03 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 00:05:30 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-4d04dc3f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:05 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:10:43 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-208-105-82-227.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 00:17:24 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-004-099.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 00:18:18 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:20:58 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 00:33:15 *** xT2 is now known as ST2 00:33:20 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:28 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:57 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 01:22:04 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 01:35:47 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:38:23 * Supercheese is templating steam locomotive sprites 01:42:59 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:57:23 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-78-45-94-15.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 02:09:50 <Supercheese> Hmm, I wonder if locos that are 9/8 long have some pixel-magic going on 02:11:49 <Flygon> 9/8 long? 02:11:54 <Flygon> 1.1 tiles long? 02:11:59 <Flygon> Like the Big Boy? 02:12:10 <Supercheese> I guess the tender is offset by an extra pixel or two 02:12:13 <Supercheese> to compensate 02:14:31 * Supercheese is listening to Legend of Zelda dubstep 02:15:09 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 02:29:05 * Supercheese is done templating steamers 02:30:28 <Flygon> Supercheese: Can't a train be 3 articulated parts? 02:30:50 <Flygon> Ultimately, the best solution is to make Locomotives and Tenders be seperate 02:31:00 <Flygon> As in, seperately purchasable 02:31:22 <Flygon> And then implement range limits on locomotives based on fuel consumption (and in the case of steam, Water) 02:31:28 <Flygon> You can see where I am going with this :B 02:31:44 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 02:31:53 <Supercheese> Range limits on locos? Do not want 02:32:42 <Flygon> Well 02:32:45 <Flygon> It's just bugged me 02:33:00 <Flygon> How I could run a loco for across half the map, and not need to carry on water 02:33:08 <Flygon> Particulary noticable on bigger maps 02:33:16 <Supercheese> You can always build intermediate depots and force trains to "refuel" at them 02:33:16 <Flygon> Could make 'condensors' attractive :P 02:33:33 <Supercheese> DWE set even has nice water towers 02:33:41 <Supercheese> and fueling stations 02:33:56 <Flygon> Eh, I'm a stickler for gameplay functions :p 02:33:57 <Supercheese> should remain optional eyecandy, IMO 02:34:07 <Supercheese> no need to force the issue via restrictions 02:34:20 <Flygon> Either way, it could make the detact-from-carriages function more useful 02:34:31 <Supercheese> ugh, I hated that feature in NARS 02:34:35 <Supercheese> killed my loco power :( 02:34:37 <Flygon> And I imagine the whole thing would be set per-GRF anyway 02:35:01 <Flygon> And most GRF authors implement the ability to disable extra functions anyway 02:35:09 <Supercheese> I try to run TurboTrains at max speed, but no, too many carriages and their horsepower drops to zero 02:35:24 <Flygon> Can't attact locomotives to each other? 02:35:28 <Supercheese> multiheaded Turbotrains just look silly 02:35:28 <Flygon> That cheeses me off to no end 02:36:21 <Flygon> Wasn't the Turbotrain max speed only attained in trail runs anyway? 02:36:31 <Flygon> eg. it normally ran 160-200, not 230? 02:36:51 <Supercheese> It was all before I was born anyway 02:37:24 <Supercheese> as were most cool transportation things, like airships 02:37:33 <Supercheese> although we've a new one of those being built 02:38:04 <Supercheese> won't see commercial service for probably a decade or more, though :( 02:38:22 <Flygon> A new airship or a replica Turbotrain? 02:38:26 <Supercheese> airship 02:38:28 <Flygon> Ah 02:38:34 <Flygon> I'd like to see a replica Turbotrain 02:38:47 <Supercheese> yeah, but airships are 9,001 times cooler :P 02:39:00 <Flygon> True 02:39:09 <Flygon> I'm surprised Airships didn't take off in Australia 02:39:14 <Supercheese> same 02:39:18 <Supercheese> http://www.ocregister.com/articles/airship-479053-aeroscraft-pasternak.html 02:39:25 <Flygon> Would have made going to Perth and Darwin easy in the 1890s to 1910a 02:39:31 <Supercheese> Well, California already had lots of huge hangars to build them in 02:39:41 <Supercheese> I dunno if there are any hangars large enough down under 02:39:46 <Flygon> But, instead, one of the worlds longest railway lines (and by extension, train tenders) was built 02:40:04 <Flygon> Could always build a hanger 02:40:16 <Supercheese> would just increase the already massive costs though :S 02:40:25 <Supercheese> also: any helium in Australia? 02:40:36 <Supercheese> I know we have lots here in Oklahoma 02:40:48 <Supercheese> IIRC the US had a monopoly on helium for decades 02:40:58 <Flygon> Don't think we have much helium 02:41:02 <Flygon> Plenty of Hydrogen 02:41:26 <Supercheese> problem is aviation regulations these days probably won't let anyone use hydrogen for passenger-carrying airships 02:41:34 <Supercheese> too much bad press from nearly 100 years ago 02:41:38 <Flygon> Dang 02:41:43 <Flygon> It's potentially safe is used right 02:41:48 <Supercheese> no kidding 02:42:10 <Flygon> Just that aviation as a whole in the 1930s, and please excuse my language, was a shitstorm 02:42:13 <Supercheese> the most successful passenger aircraft in the world at the time used hydrogen 02:42:27 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ_127_Graf_Zeppelin 02:42:37 <Flygon> It only used Hydrogen because America wouldn't sell Helium to Nazi's 02:42:53 <Supercheese> Actually when LZ 127 was out, I don't think helium had caught on yet 02:43:04 <Supercheese> Hindenburg, yes, just as you said 02:43:39 <Flygon> I envisage giant airships being useful for freight, either way 02:43:45 <Flygon> And also, as telephone towers 02:43:50 <Flygon> Also, bushfire relief 02:44:08 <Flygon> You never know when a giant freighter that can carry the water of 100 helicoptors may become useful as part of a fleet 02:44:29 <Supercheese> World's first helium airship was apparently 1921 02:45:27 <Flygon> So, yeah 02:45:45 <Flygon> My 100% serious reason for wanting mass fleet of blimps in the real world is for the safety of the nation 02:45:59 <Flygon> Because Bushfires are a real pain in the butt 02:46:19 <Supercheese> they'd be very useful for firefighting 02:46:24 <Supercheese> â60 tons of water 02:46:28 <Supercheese> or whatever other mixture 02:46:46 <Flygon> Also, they transport large cargo loads to remote regions fairly well. A single blimp could service remote communities with a lot of food. 02:47:03 <Supercheese> indeed, but the issue is could they do it cheaper than the alternatives 02:47:09 <Supercheese> all about the bottom dollar 02:47:36 <Flygon> Supercheese: Though, with airships intentionally going very close to fires, you'll want to use helium. And to prevent the water from being disappated before it even reaches the fire, you need to fly very low. 02:48:05 <Flygon> This is why Helicoptors are usually used. Fantastic fire tolerance (probably because they have a fire dissapation system inbuilt) 02:49:25 <Flygon> That, and they can hover over one spot... nothing but Blimps/Airships can also do that 02:50:06 <Flygon> Supercheese: Given how much cargo you can transport in one blimp, wouldn't the effectiveness of using that over a larger fleet of fixed wing aircraft be advantagious? then again 02:50:07 <Supercheese> or a Harrier (not that it's much use there) :P 02:50:08 <Flygon> It IS less flexible... 02:50:25 <Flygon> A Harrier would be terrible for fighting bushfires 02:50:37 <Flygon> The heat would damage the engines and it's cargo capacity is awful 02:50:53 <Supercheese> yep, but it technically can hover :P 02:51:07 <Supercheese> terrrrrible waste of fuel to do so, but it can 02:51:09 <Flygon> Yes, the heat would damage the engines as it hovers 02:51:19 <Flygon> In fact, I'd also worry about lighting the fuel on fire 02:51:26 <Supercheese> yeah 02:51:55 <Flygon> At least Helicoptors can dissapate the heat and Airships are practically capable of airconditioning their fuel and keeping the actual engines turned off :p 02:52:58 <Supercheese> with the convective currents around a fire, I'd want the engines on to stabilize the ship 02:53:07 <Flygon> But yeah, basically, douse the fire, rescue people, go off to next fire 02:53:16 <Supercheese> and some nice software to auto-course-correct 02:53:19 <Flygon> Supercheese: That's rather true 02:53:49 <Flygon> But I'd still trust a blimp over a helicoptor for raining on a fire within 100 meters of it for a longer time 02:54:06 <Flygon> Though, it'd be deadly slow. Heat protecting that bugger will make it heavy. 02:54:27 <Supercheese> I dunno about blimps, they're non-rigid 02:54:33 <Supercheese> they might not take the heat well 02:54:37 <Flygon> Er, Airship 02:54:38 <Flygon> Sorry, yeah 02:54:57 <Flygon> Rigid framed airships handle damage far better 02:55:06 <Flygon> I've never liked non-rigid designs. Too dangerous. 02:55:20 <Supercheese> although the one I'm talking about seems to have an outer covering of Mylar... I don't think that takes heat well :S 02:55:35 <Flygon> Sure, they may be more portable, and easier to maintain, but... that's really the only advantages 02:56:00 <Flygon> It's like choosing a Falcon instead of a Jeep when driving on bushtracks 02:56:06 <Supercheese> or maybe Mylar is good for heat, and I'm thinking of something else 02:56:09 <Flygon> Sure, you can do it, but would you really want to? 02:56:12 * Supercheese shrugs 02:56:46 <Flygon> Then again, I'm the guy that had an easier drive in a FWD Sedan than an AWD Station Wagon on the same dirt road... 03:02:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D221.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13:33 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 03:16:38 <Supercheese> Back to my OTTD game, now year 1894 03:17:26 <Supercheese> I ported this (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=15873) to OTTD, so I have airships all over :P 03:19:13 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.73.231] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:24 *** Pixa [~pixa@85.210.73.231] has joined #openttd 03:21:02 <Flygon> Totally need an OpenTTD Steampunk haulover GRF 03:21:19 <Flygon> Starting from 1780 03:25:19 <Supercheese> I may or may not be working on that :P 03:36:50 <Flygon> Supercheese: I may or may not be excited :3 03:37:05 <Supercheese> I have way too many projects going at once :S 03:50:24 <__ln__> gooooooood morning 03:50:34 <Supercheese> Vietnam 03:52:52 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4d083589.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 03:53:01 <Flygon> Good Morning USA, it's going to be a wonderful day! 03:53:06 <Flygon> Except it's 2:52PM here 04:00:10 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d0833b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:16:33 <Supercheese> Derp, trams can reverse at any time, even if there's no reversing-track... 04:16:50 <Supercheese> two parallel tram tracks for miles, press reverse, boom tram reverses over the dirt O_o 04:17:03 <Supercheese> that's one heck of a tram 05:33:18 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-68-175-24-89.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC678E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD596E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:56:55 <MNIM> off-road tram 05:57:09 <MNIM> for when you absolutely positively need to move stuff somewhere 05:57:28 <MNIM> rubber wheels and asphalt are for pussies! 06:02:50 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 06:03:20 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 06:11:08 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:21:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:57 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-082-030.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 06:27:33 *** Sacro [~ben@000127ee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:35 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 06:29:57 *** roboboy 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timeout: 480 seconds] 07:48:41 *** Pokka is now known as Pikka 08:23:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:57 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:08 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:38:38 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:51:52 <Supercheese> Poo, I thought road stops under bridges was already in trunk 08:51:58 <Supercheese> peter1138, get on that :P 08:53:03 <Supercheese> Oh, he's not on 08:53:05 <Supercheese> nevermind 08:56:21 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:36 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-10-125.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:18 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:07:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 09:10:30 <lugo> that new forums logo doesn't look to good (or is my browser messing up sth.?) 09:12:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D221.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:16:51 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:17:09 <Supercheese> 'night 09:17:11 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 09:34:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:41:12 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:53 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-132-199.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 09:46:40 <Eddi|zuHause> what new forum logo? 10:00:28 <peter1138> what? 10:10:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D221.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:32 *** Sacro [~ben@000127ee.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:05 <lugo> mmh, it's back to normal... 10:39:45 <peter1138> must be you, nothing changed for me 10:45:05 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:45:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:50:50 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-161-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:32 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:28 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 11:00:28 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:26 *** xT2 is now known as ST2 11:02:27 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:08:15 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 11:15:05 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4d083589.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 11:22:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@d5152695A.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:24:39 *** brambles 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<Flygon> @seen Flygon 14:01:22 <DorpsGek> Flygon: Flygon was last seen in #openttd 10 hours, 8 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Flygon> Except it's 2:52PM here 14:01:29 <Flygon> I've had my laughs for tonight 14:01:31 <Flygon> Good night 14:03:29 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:25:01 *** xT2 is now known as ST2 14:33:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:22 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:41:01 <Belugas> hello 14:41:11 <peter1138> feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeling yourseeeeeeeeeeeelf 14:41:20 <peter1138> disinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnntegrate 14:43:59 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:42 <peter1138> the soft bulletin is awesome still 14:49:51 <Belugas> found it, checking it 14:49:55 <Belugas> mission of the day! 14:54:39 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:01:12 *** Extrems [~super@24.157.137.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:37 *** Extrems [borgs@24.157.137.219] has joined #openttd 15:40:02 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-127-121.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:45:48 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:36 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:30 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:16 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 16:47:29 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:29 <oskari89> @seen DanMacK 16:57:29 <DorpsGek> oskari89: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 9 weeks, 1 day, 21 hours, 50 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey andy 17:01:35 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:55 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:13:35 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@wirenat-ulcn.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:14:05 *** pjpe [b8af1d68@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:22:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b782.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:32:04 <andythenorth> wot no pikka? 17:32:08 <andythenorth> nvm :P 17:32:08 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 17:32:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:33:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:53 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0097ae.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:58:21 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:58:59 <glx> hello 18:04:25 <Terkhen> hello 18:11:27 <frosch123> hello 18:11:50 <andythenorth> bonsoir 18:12:14 <frosch123> combo breaker 18:19:22 <frosch123> hmm, i don't know how to respond in the onion thread other than that they are all wrong 18:19:34 <frosch123> there are way too many wrong on the internet again :s 18:20:20 <andythenorth> send them a picture 18:20:37 <andythenorth> http://xkcd.com/386/ 18:22:39 <andythenorth> frosch123: everyone has different opinion in that thread afaict 18:22:43 <andythenorth> are they *all* wrong? :) 18:23:32 <frosch123> i did not bother reading them all 18:23:56 <andythenorth> ho ho :) 18:24:15 <frosch123> did you? :p 18:24:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:25:23 <andythenorth> hrm...kind of? 18:25:28 <andythenorth> missing some lines here and there :P 18:27:52 <NGC3982> You got to love reflexes. 18:28:18 <NGC3982> Bought a new package of coffee. Opened it and put it on the kitchen table while i mended the press can. 18:28:31 <NGC3982> Notices in the corner of my eye that it was about to fall 18:29:01 <NGC3982> So, in a wonderful ninja move, by reflex i swing my arm cross the table and smash the package across the kitchen 18:29:08 <NGC3982> Coffee everywhere. 18:29:11 <peter1138> lol 18:29:22 <peter1138> i mean, oh shit 18:29:54 <NGC3982> I can't decide if i should laugh of be grumpy about it. 18:29:58 <NGC3982> Didn't even clean it up. 18:30:01 <NGC3982> In rage. 18:30:03 <peter1138> i'd be mad 18:30:26 <frosch123> make a picture 18:30:29 <frosch123> and post it somewhere 18:30:46 <frosch123> become an internet hype 18:32:47 <peter1138> yeah 18:34:19 <NGC3982> The difference in physilogical actions are though, a fair bit interesting. 18:35:14 <NGC3982> Catch a one-hander in a game of burnball? No problem. Getting your god damn key in a whole? Never. 18:37:08 <andythenorth> herp 18:37:12 <andythenorth> MP GS later? 18:37:19 <andythenorth> with a grf featuring too-many-trains 18:37:23 <andythenorth> ETooManyVehicles 18:37:31 * andythenorth seriously considers taking the pikka approach 18:37:40 <frosch123> it's stupid 18:37:59 <andythenorth> pikka's ? Or the too-many-vehicles? 18:38:04 <frosch123> pikka's 18:38:20 <frosch123> but well, i still have to reply :) 18:38:27 <andythenorth> I started to feel the same though 18:38:45 <andythenorth> I am trying to make FISH 2 fit together, and somehow it...doesn't 18:38:57 <andythenorth> HEQS though...seems ok 18:39:41 <andythenorth> I've been considering it, and making FISH 2 a tiny number of vehicles just doesn't work either 18:40:00 <andythenorth> for a start, ships just need a range of capacities, no way to add/remove wagons to change cap. 18:40:24 <andythenorth> but still...there are too many vehicles with questionable purpose 18:40:28 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 18:42:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@d5152695A.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:00 *** Zeknurn` [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:37 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DDFEA65.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:41 *** zeknurn [~Zeknurn@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:46 <fjb_mobile> Moin 18:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r24977 trunk/src/lang/indonesian.txt (2013-02-07 18:45:07 UTC) 18:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:17 <DorpsGek> indonesian - 6 changes by Yoursnotmine 18:56:41 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:56:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:57:17 <Alberth> plop 18:58:06 <frosch123> s/p$/pp/ 18:59:02 <fjb_mobile> Moin Alberth 18:59:08 <fjb_mobile> Quak frosch123 18:59:17 <frosch123> moin fjb :) 18:59:47 <Alberth> hi frosch123, and mobile fjb :) 19:00:26 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:07:30 *** Arendtsen [arendtsen@tux.nerdheaven.dk] has left #openttd [] 19:13:28 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:23:51 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@82.137.72.34] has joined #openttd 19:25:08 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@82.137.72.34] has quit [] 19:31:53 *** xT2 is now known as ST2 19:33:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:01 <Wolf01> hello 19:34:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:34:29 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d154-20-132-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:16 <frosch123> #turaluraluralu 19:49:12 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DDFEA65.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:37 <Alberth> hi 19:55:07 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC6368E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:13 *** goodger [~ben@host86-166-165-94.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: goodger] 20:01:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:07:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host204-174-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:14:17 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-91-232.a146.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:20:06 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:37 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:23:07 *** mkv` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:25:20 *** snorre [~snorre@c4A06BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:25 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:23 *** Markavian [~Markavian@78-105-168-146.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:11 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC6368E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.162.102] has joined #openttd 20:38:51 <frosch123> night 20:38:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b782.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D221.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24978 /trunk (6 files in 5 dirs) (2013-02-07 20:53:55 UTC) 20:54:01 <DorpsGek> -Update: some assorted documentation tidbits 20:54:37 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:56:16 <peter1138> *titbits 20:58:07 <Rubidium> orly? 20:59:01 <peter1138> yus 21:02:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r24979 tags/1.3.0-beta2/ (2013-02-07 21:01:54 UTC) 21:02:01 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.3.0-beta2 21:04:24 <peter1138> shocking 21:21:20 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:28:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:29:56 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 21:31:47 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:31:48 *** Flygon [~Flygon@218-214-18-147.people.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:03 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:14 <LordAro> does the wiki seem a bit broken to anyone else? 21:39:22 <LordAro> e.g. http://wiki.openttd.org/Special:RecentChanges 21:43:06 <michi_cc> No? What are we supposed to see? 21:46:17 <Rubidium> LordAro: the only thing that's broken is the Haiku page, since it isn't written in Haiku's 21:46:30 <Rubidium> s/'s/s/ 21:48:02 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-91-232.a146.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 21:48:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:48 *** Supercheese [~Password4@76.178.163.204] has joined #openttd 21:52:41 <LordAro> hmm. it's just blank apart from the title for me... 21:53:14 <peter1138> wf, 21:53:16 <peter1138> wfm even 21:54:49 <peter1138> heh, egcs 21:54:53 <peter1138> forgot about that 22:31:29 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC6118B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:33:28 <Terkhen> good night 22:39:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc23-aztw25-2-0-cust33.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:45:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:09 *** ComLock [~chrisw@cC165BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:59:00 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:06 <Wolf01> 'night 23:04:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:07:50 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host81-155-106-122.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:40 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:11 <Bad_Brett> Hmm... I'm using a childsprite to apply smoke... would it be wise to use the hide_sprite property when the animation isn't playing? 23:54:23 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-082-030.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:54:43 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-86.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:58:20 *** Celestar [~vici@mnch-5d85634a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:41 <Supercheese> Not sure 23:59:07 <Supercheese> if the sprite is invisible while the animation isn't playing, I dunno if there'd be a difference between that and hidesprite