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Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.] 02:28:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6D690.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D36.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 02:48:23 *** erebus [~erebus@cpe-24-29-49-242.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:48:44 <erebus> At what length is a truck feeder better than a train feeder? 02:48:59 *** erebus is now known as Guest656 02:53:30 *** Guest656 [~erebus@cpe-24-29-49-242.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 02:54:15 <GauHelldragon> :o what is a train feeder 04:17:56 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 04:25:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:34:05 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has joined #openttd 05:49:58 *** Dewin [~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D36.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5AA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:02:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-137-175.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:07:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:22:04 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 06:41:44 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 07:31:30 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 08:12:56 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 08:19:49 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:28:48 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: DDR is not Dance Dance Revolution.] 08:29:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5AA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:55:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-144-174-133.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 08:55:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:57:09 <andythenorth> morning 09:08:15 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:34 <andythenorth> 1m 28s to build FIRS with nml :( 09:13:55 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:13:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:14:48 <peter1139> write it in nfo 09:15:35 <andythenorth> good idea 09:15:49 <andythenorth> I am considering converting it back :P 09:15:50 <Alberth> hi andy, peter 09:16:06 <andythenorth> hmm. I could have my python script do loads of nfo magic 09:16:16 <andythenorth> it might take 1m 28s though :P 09:18:04 <alandarev> how do I open debug window? 09:18:52 <alandarev> founbd 09:20:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:26:06 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-42-185.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:26:27 <LordAro> moin 09:30:32 <Alberth> moin 09:30:42 <LordAro> hai Alberth 09:36:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.233.3.31] has joined #openttd 09:36:36 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 09:36:37 <Wolf01> hello :D 10:09:45 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:11:38 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19:03 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 10:43:42 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5153E72C.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 10:44:28 <andythenorth> hmm 10:44:39 <andythenorth> FIRS html docs are 745KB, should I ship them with the grf? 10:44:46 <andythenorth> the grf is 3.3MB 10:44:59 <andythenorth> who pays bandwidth around here? :o 10:45:40 <V453000> some andythenorth does 10:45:48 <V453000> not sure if he is aware of it though, he has slight debt 10:46:18 <andythenorth> â¬1 per download 10:47:08 <andythenorth> I owe ottd â¬1.06m 10:47:34 <andythenorth> herp 10:47:45 <Ammler> 745kB compressed? :-o 10:47:51 <andythenorth> maybe not compressed 10:47:52 <andythenorth> let's see 10:47:55 <Wolf01> how do you come to have 745KB of html? what did you put in it? 10:48:08 <Ammler> images, I would guess 10:48:14 <andythenorth> 408KB compressed 10:48:18 <andythenorth> but I can compress the images more 10:48:19 <Alberth> "please transfer â¬0.10 to unlock the next industry" :) 10:48:27 <Wolf01> lol 10:48:50 <andythenorth> "premium subscriptions" 10:48:56 <andythenorth> â¬2 / month 10:49:03 <andythenorth> â¬1 to paypal, the rest to ottd :P 10:49:09 <andythenorth> access to all grfs instantly 10:49:13 <andythenorth> otherwise 30 day delay :P 10:49:15 <Ammler> maybe simply make 2 bundles, no need to add it to the bananas bundle 10:49:32 <andythenorth> new make target? bananas? 10:49:51 <Ammler> hmm, maybe also no need to bundle it at all... 10:49:55 <Alberth> make bananas sounds good :) 10:50:02 <Wolf01> I hate the pay-to-win model and all the micro-transactions to unlock something, I feel more convenient to purchase a game for 50⬠and already have all instead of paying it 30⬠and still have to pay to unlock everything 10:50:07 <Ammler> tasty :-) 10:50:17 * andythenorth has a headache with the makefile 10:50:21 <Alberth> Wolf01: indeed, I would not pay 10:50:26 <andythenorth> it has very little idea about deps :P 10:50:33 <andythenorth> so either makes nothing, or everything 10:50:40 <andythenorth> I guess I broke it 10:50:55 <Ammler> Wolf01: as long as they sell a bundle, I do not really care, some people like to pay less 10:52:07 <andythenorth> 'upgrade FIRS makefile' would be a nice project for someone :) 10:52:24 <Ammler> I never got, why someone would pay for additional downloads like more/better weapons or alternative look 10:52:42 <LordAro> apparently, people do 10:53:00 <LordAro> unfortunately for those of us who dislike it 10:53:10 <LordAro> people are stupid 10:53:30 <Ammler> well, that is the advantage you don't need to buy it 10:54:22 <Ammler> IMO, it is most silly to buy seomthing to make a game easier (better weapons) 10:58:38 <LordAro> surprise! people like to cheat if you give them the chance :) 10:59:06 <Wolf01> I did it twice, just to find out that I can live without it since most of the times there are only cosmetical changes, but on DarkSiders2 I was really satisfied (but I had to purchase all the DLCs to find out which armor is more suitable to my play style) 11:03:35 <V453000> cosmetic changes are fun :) 11:03:41 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:49 <Wolf01> yeah, but pnly if they are free 11:03:52 <Wolf01> *only 11:04:13 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:04:13 <LordAro> did someone mention hats? 11:04:14 <V453000> well they can be hard to get in the game over time, or quickly purchaseable 11:06:39 <V453000> I like how heroes of newerth is doing it, they just let you get "silver coins" where a cosmetic change can cost from 500 to 3000 of them. 3000 new, 500 older ones. You can purchase them with real money or gather silver coins slowly, and even better if you just wait or dont have the silver, it will get cheap sooner or later :) 11:06:47 <andythenorth> new FIRS 11:06:51 <andythenorth> nothing much changed 11:07:04 * andythenorth needs bug reports ahead of...you know...1.0 11:09:33 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 11:10:25 <V453000> how to add 10k lines of code within 24 hours 11:10:27 <V453000> I should write a guide 11:11:22 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest684 11:11:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-92-19-183-204.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 11:13:46 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:56 *** chester_ [~chester@95-27-49-235.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:16:43 *** Guest684 [~Andy@host-78-144-174-133.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:29 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0095b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:24:01 <andythenorth> quak 11:26:02 <V453000> moo 11:26:41 <andythenorth> oink actually 11:26:52 <andythenorth> check devzone commit :P 11:28:49 <Alberth> hi 11:31:02 <frosch123> moin :) 11:31:45 <V453000> andythenorth: pigs at orchard? :D 11:31:49 <V453000> like on trees? :D 11:32:45 <Alberth> pigs are too heavy for that :) 11:35:00 <andythenorth> hmm 11:35:07 <andythenorth> seems to be just a uk thing :P 11:35:24 <andythenorth> pigs are standard here in orchards :P 11:36:27 <V453000> I want my own pig-tree too :( 11:36:54 <V453000> Alberth: your argument is invalid, pigs can flu 11:36:55 <V453000> fly 11:37:29 <Alberth> :D 11:39:47 <frosch123> at least pigs with a horn 11:40:47 <V453000> LOL 11:45:16 <V453000> p.s. feeding me with retarded ideas might not be the best thing to do as I am in a very April mood >:D 11:48:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D690.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:48:26 <V453000> only thing saving the current situation is that I cant seem to fit a tree on a wagon, especially not to fit a unihorned pig on it afterwards 11:48:31 <V453000> :[ 11:51:09 *** molv_ [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:21 *** molv [~molv@ip24-251-142-159.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:01:36 <Alberth> tree is optional :D 12:02:18 <andythenorth> FIRS 1.0 flies on trees 12:02:19 <andythenorth> with pigs 12:02:49 <Alberth> \o/ 12:05:32 <V453000> Alberth: that helps :P 12:05:49 <V453000> what is it anywya 12:05:51 <V453000> unipigs? 12:05:53 <V453000> unibacon? 12:06:18 <Alberth> pigcorn? 12:11:49 *** Bonez305 [~kvirc@c-76-26-9-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:13 <V453000> pigcorn :D 12:17:16 <andythenorth> not like a corndog 12:18:40 <V453000> that isnt an animal :( 12:26:26 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-057-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 12:27:22 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has joined #openttd 12:32:36 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:16 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 12:47:10 * andythenorth cuts 200KB of FIRS docs 12:50:12 <Rubidium> because openttd doesn't have a html renderer yet, right? 12:56:20 <andythenorth> that 12:56:25 <andythenorth> and to save you / us bandwidth :P 12:56:49 <andythenorth> all that changed is I cut down the palette in ~55 images 12:56:57 <andythenorth> surprising difference in file size :P 12:57:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5AA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:59:36 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:54 <alandarev> andythenorth: any idea where I can see cargo ID's for FIRS? 13:01:10 <andythenorth> funny you should ask 13:01:24 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/set_overview.html 13:01:34 <andythenorth> ^ that's new 13:01:39 * andythenorth is pleased it has a purpose 13:01:48 <andythenorth> alandarev: let me know if you can find them :P 13:01:53 <andythenorth> they're in there 13:02:20 <alandarev> andythenorth: yah I am surfing this page for a couple of minutes :D I ggot here: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/cargos.html but there are no ID's given 13:02:30 <andythenorth> look in code reference 13:02:38 <alandarev> ah :D sweet 13:02:47 <alandarev> thanks and well done on docs :) 13:02:58 <andythenorth> what are you going to use the IDs for? 13:03:13 <alandarev> andythenorth: have some fun in playing FIRS + CityBuilder GS 13:05:34 <alandarev> I so wan someone making NewGRX which would change profit from cargo delivery not on the distance between stations but distance to nearest source 13:05:46 <alandarev> should probably post it on forum maybe someone is interested in 13:12:24 <alandarev> can I use ctrl when pressing duplicate vehicle to apply Shared Orders logics? 13:12:43 <Alberth> tias :) 13:14:51 <andythenorth> what are official names of Tropic, Arctic etc? 13:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause> subtropic and subarctic 13:17:26 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:33 <andythenorth> ta 13:19:52 <Eddi|zuHause> alandarev: have you tried it? (or read the hint text) 13:20:03 *** HellTiger [~HellTiger@43-54.61-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 13:21:31 <alandarev> Eddi|zuHause: tried what? :) 13:25:31 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:29:53 <V453000> .. 13:31:27 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 13:40:32 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e68e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:32 <alandarev> Where should I post NewGRX suggestion, in Suggestions or Graphics board? 13:50:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r25128 trunk/src/stdafx.h (2013-03-30 13:50:46 UTC) 13:50:53 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: [Win32] MSVC 2010 comes with stdint.h. 13:58:51 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:12 <V453000> newGRF not newGRX, I already told you :s 14:06:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 14:13:25 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 14:16:06 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:23 <__ln__> ummmm... what happens if i clone a Windows 7 installation from a 512-b HDD to a 4k HDD? 14:30:28 <__ln__> using dd 14:33:45 <alandarev> (my) New suggestion: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=64921 14:35:11 <TinoDidriksen> __ln__, dunno, but if dd fails there's ntfsclone (which is superior anyway). 14:35:17 <V453000> it isnt newGRX and I doubt newGRF can actually do that 14:35:47 <alandarev> V453000: awh :( 14:36:22 <V453000> the only thing newGRF can define in cargo is cargo multiplier cost, and decay rate I think ... I might be wrong though 14:36:29 <V453000> cost related that is 14:37:44 <alandarev> V453000: i think someone metioned two days ago that new versions allow control of costs calculation 14:38:01 <alandarev> gtg.. 14:38:24 <V453000> right 14:45:53 <andythenorth> there is a cb for custom profit calculation 14:46:28 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:53 *** chester_ [~chester@95-27-49-235.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:49:58 <frosch123> yes, but quite limited 15:01:11 *** wippler [52832afc@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:15 <wippler> http://pixel-universe.com/bisnis/ --> Business management browser game :) 15:01:19 *** wippler [52832afc@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [] 15:08:10 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@ip82-139-82-247.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:31:07 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:25 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 15:33:48 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.138.82] has joined #openttd 15:36:26 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d08e68e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My life for Aiur] 15:41:07 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25129 extra/musa/musad.py (2013-03-30 15:41:01 UTC) 15:41:08 <DorpsGek> [MUSA] -Fix: uploading an update failed at the server side 15:53:30 *** Bonez305 [~kvirc@c-76-26-9-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:20:58 <LordAro> what is you lot's thoughts on cmake ? 16:21:14 <LordAro> </randomquestion> 16:23:35 <__ln__> it causes as much trouble as it solves 16:24:08 <michi_cc> Rather useless as long as e.g. a cygwin compiled cmake binary will only produce cygwin makefiles and an MSVC compiled cmake only MSVC project files. Who thought of crap like this? 16:26:55 <andythenorth> wasn't me :P 16:29:32 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:08 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-057-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 16:41:06 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:46:09 *** Bonez305|2 [~kvirc@c-76-26-9-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:29 *** Bonez305 [~kvirc@c-76-26-9-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:20 *** Nat_aS [~nat@00179a279bbd.click-network.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:06:08 *** Meechmunchie [~meechmunc@89.204.138.82] has quit [Quit: Robots have shiny metal posteriors which should not be bitten.] 17:24:14 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:31:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-92-19-183-204.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:32:44 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:02 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 17:48:10 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-149-102-3.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-149-102-3.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:07:09 *** Dewin [~Daniel@c-76-28-131-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D690.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:49 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:24:58 <alandarev> suggest me interesting Industry NewGRX's to play please :) 18:31:27 <Alberth> there are 4: the default industries, opengfx+industries, FIRS, and ECS 18:31:46 <alandarev> Alberth: what is that recent PBI or something? 18:32:04 <Alberth> oh, that could be one too, sorry pikka 18:32:23 <Alberth> I never tried that one 18:32:25 <alandarev> Alberth: what it's name? I can't find in bananas 18:33:05 <Alberth> pikkas basic industries iirc 18:34:10 <alandarev> not in the list :( Also is column Downloads glitched? FIRS was downloaded only 147 times, I hardly believe it comapred to some 20k downloads of Cars Sets 18:34:34 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 18:34:39 <Alberth> FIRS got a new version today 18:35:04 <Alberth> big download counts usually mean the set has not been touched for a long time 18:35:22 <Alberth> too many people download everything instead of just what they need 18:36:27 <Alberth> have a look at the download count of the "staircase" heightmap. I uploaded as a testmap, it is absolutely useless for playing 18:36:57 <Alberth> I didn't advertise it anywhere :) 18:36:59 <alandarev> Alberth: oh, new version = downloads counter reset? 18:37:23 <Alberth> alandarev: not sure. Either that, or it starts a new count for each version 18:37:36 <alandarev> Alberth: lol at staircase :D 18:37:48 <Alberth> ie older versions are still there, for people playing old versions 18:38:15 <Alberth> so I guess those versions still have a count 18:38:17 <michi_cc> Each version has its own download count IIRC and the web interface only shows the data for the most recent one. 18:38:33 <alandarev> sweet, thanks for explaining. but I so want some sort of "rating" sorted NewGRF'es 18:38:47 <Alberth> we all do 18:39:02 <Alberth> got some time on your hand to build us a nice rating system? 18:39:20 <alandarev> Alberth: downloads count kind of one of those, if they did not reset... 18:39:46 <Alberth> nah, too many false positives 18:40:01 <alandarev> Alberth: certainly, but still better than nothing ;-) 18:40:19 <michi_cc> alandarev: Not at all, because apparently it is a mortal sin to not download everything you can see. 18:40:55 <alandarev> michi_cc: okay, then simple 5 star rating could help us 18:41:03 <Alberth> I'd bet that over 50% of the downloads are never ever used in a game 18:41:05 <michi_cc> I.e. the download count is quite proportional to the time the file is online. 18:43:25 <alandarev> Experts hard - industries 0.4 193171 times < as an example No description, no readme, no link to a topic. wtf it does?? 18:45:39 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25130 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2013-03-30 18:45:30 UTC) 18:45:40 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:41 <DorpsGek> galician - 21 changes by Michi 18:45:42 <DorpsGek> korean - 16 changes by telk5093 18:45:43 <DorpsGek> welsh - 34 changes by kazzie 18:51:21 <Alberth> probably from some server for competitive games 18:53:13 <Terkhen> hello 18:54:56 <Alberth> hi ter 18:55:01 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:01 <Alberth> hi Terkhen 18:55:18 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:01:35 <LordAro> doctor who was fun 19:13:58 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-150-149-159.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:56 *** APTX [APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 19:25:58 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@host-92-19-181-91.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:58 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest710 19:25:58 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 19:32:21 *** Guest710 [~Andy@host-78-150-149-159.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:31 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:47 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has joined #openttd 19:42:07 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest712 19:42:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-89-243-0-159.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:53 *** Guest712 [~Andy@host-92-19-181-91.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:43 <andythenorth> someone should write a better version of this 19:56:44 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/set_overview.html 19:56:48 <andythenorth> then FIRS docs are done 19:56:51 <andythenorth> ;) 19:57:24 <andythenorth> probably less stuff 19:57:50 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-242.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:52 <Alberth> use .rst file format ? 20:03:52 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest714 20:03:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-150-154-72.as13285.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:56 *** Guest714 [~Andy@host-89-243-0-159.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:52 *** RavingManiac [~RavingMan@182.55.106.160] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:20 <alandarev> andythenorth: I rly want Power Station to make CityBuilder more realistic with FIRS.. Can I achieve it somehow? 20:30:40 <alandarev> andythenorth: FIRS adds more fun, but now my towns no longer need 'electricity' which is sad :( 20:44:31 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:14 <andythenorth> alandarev: code a power station 20:49:30 <alandarev> andythenorth: not a coder :( I can not find Gasoline Cargo ID in http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html 20:49:44 <andythenorth> alandarev: everyone starts coding somewhere ;) 20:50:25 <andythenorth> petrol: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html 20:55:00 <alandarev> andythenorth: A bit of settings tweaking and I can start having some challenge :D http://josh.c-servers.com/web/2013_03_30_20_54_27_OpenTTD_1.3.0_RC3.png 20:56:00 <alandarev> andythenorth: if you could help me I don't mind coding power station... But I really can not dedicated many days into this which would require if doing alone 20:56:24 <andythenorth> there are others who want the power station too 20:56:30 <andythenorth> @seen supercheese 20:56:30 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: supercheese was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 22 hours, 42 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Supercheese> i.e. you can deliver cargo even if not directly in the catchment, or some such 20:56:36 <andythenorth> @seen flherne 20:56:36 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: flherne was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 2 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <FLHerne> TBH, most patches I've seen/poked just seem to use 200 for the save version... 20:56:39 <andythenorth> herp 20:57:09 <alandarev> andythenorth: see, then you definitely should consider doing it :) and I am even offering to do some work on it 20:57:28 <andythenorth> nah 20:57:44 <andythenorth> not for me :) 20:58:52 <alandarev> oww :( 21:01:14 <alandarev> andythenorth: can you clear few things out for me? 1. Gas Stations, Builders Yard, Hardware Store can consume as much resource as I deliver? 2. Primary Industries close down? Can I prevent it from happening? I don't feel like it is needed in a city builder game? 21:01:40 <andythenorth> 1. yes 2. no they don't 21:02:27 <alandarev> oh then it sounds like it perfectly fits into my city builder script, only thing I would love is power station :) 21:05:13 <alandarev> I see there is a i_powerstation.pnfo file in source 21:11:56 <andythenorth> that is probably not much use :) 21:12:14 <andythenorth> you could do this with a simple nml-based newgrf, that just turns on the default power station 21:13:07 <alandarev> going through eGRVT set, how come 2 horses carriage have 10hp? :DDD 21:13:41 <alandarev> and 4 horses have same 10hp but just max speed from 20km to 26km :D 21:15:17 <Rubidium> the same reason a small airport is only 12 times bigger than a bus stop 21:20:08 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:21:56 <alandarev> :)) 21:22:33 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 21:31:36 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:44:46 <andythenorth> alandarev: probably not useful to you now, but the tables here are now sortable :P http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html 21:51:11 *** sla_ro|master [sla_romas@89.137.75.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:05:04 <alandarev> andythenorth: :) kk, site looks clean and tidy 22:36:00 <frosch123> night 22:36:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0095b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host-78-150-154-72.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:41 *** alandarev [~alandarev@5ac840b3.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:21 *** Ristovski [~rafael@78.157.7.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:21 *** Elukka [Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:54:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D690.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:23:08 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:41:46 <LordAro> night all 23:42:30 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-42-185.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:47:42 *** kero [~keikoz@152.4.69.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: kero] 23:57:35 <Wolf01> good night 23:57:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.]