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00:05:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:44 <Supercheese> Ugh, svn just broke horribly 00:15:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm always amazed that my usual patches don't cause conflicts on update 00:17:33 <Eddi|zuHause> + if (owner == OWNER_NONE) owner = _current_company; 00:17:40 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea what that was meant for 00:17:47 <Eddi|zuHause> in tunnelbridge code... 00:26:48 <canin> I wish ottd went merc. 00:31:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A239.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 00:38:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6CA4.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:40:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A239.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:19 *** LordAro [~LordAro@host86-165-38-134.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:55:05 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:55:35 <Bad_Brett> hello 01:05:34 <Supercheese> Greetings 01:10:24 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye !] 01:18:15 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-100.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 01:23:39 <Bad_Brett> ah! supercheese! what are you up to? 01:24:22 <Supercheese> well, slowly making a Fairey Rotodyne for OTTD 01:24:35 <Supercheese> One of these beasts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotodyne 01:25:11 <Supercheese> and having the new version of SVN break things horribl 01:25:13 <Supercheese> y 01:26:25 <Bad_Brett> it does? 01:26:40 <Bad_Brett> what the hell? 01:26:50 <Bad_Brett> is that a helicopter or a plane? 01:26:55 <Supercheese> yes :) 01:27:56 <Bad_Brett> i don't know what it is ...but i like it. 01:28:04 <Bad_Brett> are you going to replace the military jet? 01:28:16 <Supercheese> no, just add it 01:28:42 <Bad_Brett> Capacity: 40 passengers 01:28:54 <Bad_Brett> not bad 01:29:34 <Supercheese> a larger version was planned 01:29:38 <Supercheese> but of course the project was canceled 01:32:20 <Bad_Brett> :) 01:35:20 *** roboboy 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[~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:53:50 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:01:12 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@2001:470:dc50:b0::21] has joined #openttd 10:22:08 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 10:24:16 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28:16 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 11:05:52 <oskari89> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=21457&p=1084130#p1084130 11:09:37 <__ln__> @seen Bjarni 11:09:37 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 37 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 11:10:20 <peter1138> @seen tron 11:10:20 <DorpsGek> peter1138: I have not seen tron. 11:10:34 <peter1138> @seen hackykid 11:10:34 <DorpsGek> peter1138: hackykid was last seen in #openttd 3 years, 16 weeks, 2 days, 1 hour, 50 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Hackykid> hi peter1138 11:11:35 <oskari89> @seen jvassie 11:11:35 <DorpsGek> oskari89: jvassie was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <JVassie> i shall investigate 11:12:00 <TinoDidriksen> The investigation must have taken a dark turn. 11:12:16 <__ln__> would be interesting to know the result 11:21:49 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24:27 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 11:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone see the irony in peter1138 asking about hackykid, and hackykid saying "hi peter1138"? :p 11:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> @seen ln- 11:35:02 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: ln- was last seen in #openttd 2 years, 41 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, 55 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <ln-> because flooding is bad. just look what happened to New Orleans. 11:56:28 *** roadt__ [~roadt@223.240.103.50] has joined #openttd 12:14:43 *** Vinnie_nl [~VincentAi@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has 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timed out] 14:31:41 *** stuf [stuf@heatenin.gs] has joined #openttd 14:33:45 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:47:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:47:12 <andythenorth> cargo label for coffee - CAFE? 14:47:14 <andythenorth> or COFF? 14:47:41 <Rubidium> andythenorth: JAVA ? 14:47:49 <andythenorth> ho ho 14:54:02 <andythenorth> might as well, seeing as nobody else has objected :P 14:55:23 <andythenorth> now I have to edit the wiki :( 14:56:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:00:37 <andythenorth> here's a funny page: http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/FIRS 15:00:41 <andythenorth> didn't know about that :P 15:00:50 <andythenorth> somewhat untrue 15:06:57 <andythenorth> having introduced a new cargo, we can now have the bunfight about classes :D 15:07:06 <andythenorth> Coffee is Piece Goods. Comes in bags. 15:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like reading an article from the 1950s how everyone will have nuclear-powered cars 15:16:02 <andythenorth> indeed 15:17:27 <andythenorth> feel free to edit :) 15:29:16 * andythenorth wonders if the wiki page can redirect to FIRS docs 15:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> it shouldn't, but you can certainly add a link 15:43:20 <andythenorth> links rot :P 15:43:25 <andythenorth> so do redirects I guess 15:49:51 <Vinnie_nl> I'm stuck again with NoGo :( 15:50:15 <Vinnie_nl> is it ok to paste code here? 15:50:21 <Vinnie_nl> 5 lines 15:50:25 <andythenorth> pastebin 15:53:47 <Vinnie_nl> http://pastebin.com/AuHuJHFX 15:55:09 <Vinnie_nl> I can't get the list to include GetLastMonthProduction. In the Valuate part without getting an error about missing parameters 15:55:28 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has joined #openttd 15:56:42 <Rubidium> does Valuate(<function>, <cargo type>) do the trick? 15:57:09 <Rubidium> though hardcoding 5 for being the coal mine is prone to fail 15:58:21 <Vinnie_nl> welcome to trial and error by noob 16:02:36 <andythenorth> "if only there was a way for industry and GS to work together" 16:03:12 <andythenorth> but...as GS is supposed to be grf independent, and industry newgrfs are considered to have lots of private information... 16:03:17 <andythenorth> good luck :) 16:03:49 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:55 <Vinnie_nl> Am I wasting my time? 16:07:44 <planetmaker> no, not really. you can find out whether the industry is a coal mine 16:08:06 <planetmaker> if it quaks like a mine, it likely is a mine 16:08:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:08:20 <planetmaker> i.e. check for industries which produce coal 16:09:14 <andythenorth> should be reliable for coal 16:09:34 * andythenorth biab 16:10:15 <Vinnie_nl> well code did that just fine, just didn't sort the list the way i wanted 16:16:58 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has joined #openttd 16:20:16 *** andythen_ [~andytheno@2002:4d67:4d11:0:202d:fcad:d13c:d7da] has joined #openttd 16:21:07 <oskari89> @seen Michi_cc 16:21:07 <DorpsGek> oskari89: Michi_cc was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 1 day, 5 hours, 21 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <michi_cc> frosch123: I'd think your main fuse will shut you down even earlier than that :) 16:28:17 *** andythen_ [~andytheno@2002:4d67:4d11:0:202d:fcad:d13c:d7da] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:06 *** adit [~adit@182.12.162.137] has joined #openttd 16:30:45 <petanek> planetmaker: Hi, man 16:31:16 <petanek> you gave me usefull hints yesterday about dedicated server 16:31:55 <petanek> planetmaker: How can I configure automatic restart after some goal? 16:36:29 <planetmaker> no idea really 16:37:46 <planetmaker> probably you can use the admin port and query goal status. And send restart command, if goal status is XX. 16:37:56 <planetmaker> if goal status cannot be queried... that's a valid feature request 16:38:48 <petanek> some servers have this feature 16:39:22 <planetmaker> you can set it to restart at a certain date. But depending on a goal... dunno :-) 16:39:36 <planetmaker> my servers have also the feature to restart when the map is done 16:39:43 <planetmaker> That feature is called 'human intervention' 16:40:11 <petanek> I have found "Shunter - Openttd server controller" any experiencies with it? 16:40:33 <planetmaker> the only experience I have with that is that the guy does not release his code. Thus otherwise: no 16:46:17 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:21 <petanek> Thats a pitty. However thanks a lot for yesterday help 16:47:17 <planetmaker> petanek, I still miss an open-source implementation for admin port access which is beyond the proof of concept stage 16:48:02 <planetmaker> xshunter is the only implementation I heard of which is beyond that - but as said, I can't say anything about it, I was never given access to it to test myself 16:48:38 <planetmaker> which is a pity really... they get game and content for free - and fear that people might steal their server ideas or whatever 16:50:11 <planetmaker> not sure whether you want to tackle that yourself... there's two library implementations for admin port access which can be used to make your own server control around it 16:50:53 <planetmaker> https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin and http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/joan 16:51:22 <planetmaker> the latter also has a proof-of-concept implementation: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes 16:51:35 <planetmaker> libottdadmin is python, joan and grapes java 16:53:43 <planetmaker> at #openttdcoop we still use ap+. It still works for us, but... I can't really recommend that anymore 16:58:28 <petanek> OK,.. I'll use only for me and my frinds olny. It sounds comlicated :-) 17:08:51 *** Bad_Brett [~bad@78-69-118-27-no42.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:09:56 *** adit [~adit@182.12.162.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:10:11 <Bad_Brett> good evening 17:10:47 <Vinnie_nl> hi 17:16:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@218.47.113.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:00 *** adit [~adit@39.211.139.128] has joined #openttd 17:18:17 * Xaroth|Work eyes planetmaker 17:18:29 <Xaroth|Work> never realised it was still being used :P 17:18:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A185F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:19:35 <Xaroth|Work> I should move that to github at some point 17:21:10 <Eddi|zuHause> "If Snowden wants to make sure he'll never be put in front of a US court, he should go to Guantanamo Bay" 17:21:26 <scshunt> hahaha 17:25:27 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: but isn't that where the US will place him when they get him? 17:26:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: well they didn't do that with Manning 17:26:42 <Vinnie_nl> is it already know that you can crash openttd with signs that have to many characters? 17:27:16 <Eddi|zuHause> if it's on http://bugs.openttd.org then it's known 17:27:18 <Rubidium> is there a report on the bug tracker? 17:33:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc5de.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:34 *** glx [glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:45:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25453 trunk/src/lang/vietnamese.txt (2013-06-24 17:45:08 UTC) 17:45:16 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> vietnamese - 1 changes by nglekhoi 17:45:30 *** zooks [~zooks@vhe-540241.sshn.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:44 *** ntoskrnl [~not@a91-153-231-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:40 <Terkhen> hello 17:48:51 <planetmaker> Xaroth, I think it is NOT being used 17:49:21 <planetmaker> Xaroth, would you grant me a license of that under the agpl 3? 17:50:46 * __ln__ is thinking about booking flights 17:52:01 <planetmaker> also, Xaroth, it's in my bookmark list... which I quote every time s/o asks about admin port :-) 17:52:07 *** andythen_ [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 18:00:16 <Vinnie_nl> another 4 hours wasted finding out that industry ID != Cargo ID 18:00:36 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: I was more contemplating re-doing it, but if you want to fiddle with it, that's fine with me 18:01:03 <Vinnie_nl> im such an idiot 18:01:25 <planetmaker> Xaroth, I don't mind at all if you want to re-do that 18:01:47 <planetmaker> I recently was thinking - only thinking - about the possibility to do something in that area 18:01:54 * Xaroth|Work nods 18:01:55 *** roadt__ [~roadt@223.240.103.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:57 <planetmaker> and as supybot is also in python, a python library would come in handy 18:02:03 <Xaroth|Work> ;) 18:02:06 <Xaroth|Work> python loves libraries 18:02:25 <planetmaker> yeah. and supybot... we have that. so just a server management plugin would be very handy 18:02:29 <Xaroth|Work> i'll have a look at the code, see if it needs updating or anything 18:02:51 <planetmaker> likely it will need some updating. iirc some minor additions have been done since 18:03:18 *** andythen_ [~andytheno@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:56 <planetmaker> but nothing major, I think 18:04:20 <planetmaker> due to lack of public interest not much was done there from our side either... no fun to programme into a black hole :-) 18:07:35 <Xaroth|Work> always wanted to dabble a bit with metaclasses 18:11:46 *** adit [~adit@39.211.139.128] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:18 *** adit [~adit@39.211.139.128] has joined #openttd 18:33:36 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: tbh, i'll just migrate it to github, once i figure out how to do that properly, then I'll add you with access 18:35:39 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:36:00 <Alberth> o/ 18:36:57 <Rubidium> planetmaker: want to organise a work meeting for those kinds of bots? 18:37:12 <Rubidium> what about... in a little under 5 weeks? ;) 18:37:41 <andythenorth> have a meeting about fruit 18:39:26 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25454 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2013-06-24 18:39:19 UTC) 18:39:27 <DorpsGek> -Remove/Fix/Cleanup: SETX(Y) does not work at all with other than default fonts, so get rid of it 18:43:01 <planetmaker> hm... would work. If such bot developers will come :D 18:43:09 <planetmaker> but I heard Xaroth will come, too, right? 18:44:09 <peter1138> Rubidium, how long until you're declared evil? 18:44:45 <Alberth> by whom? 18:47:29 <planetmaker> peter1138, I guess approx -3 years? 18:51:41 <Xaroth|Work> wait, i am? 18:52:19 * Xaroth|Work eyes TrueBrain 18:52:54 <TrueBrain> he is playing you Xar 18:52:59 <TrueBrain> and you walked right in the trap 18:53:34 <peter1138> Oh true :) 18:56:38 <planetmaker> Xaroth, now... you're trapped. TB ... comes this way :D 18:56:47 <planetmaker> though I don't know the seat count in the car... 18:57:03 <Alberth> it's N-1 now ;p 18:57:20 <TrueBrain> we'll just rent a 9-person car 18:57:34 <Xaroth|Work> when is it 18:57:45 <planetmaker> 27/28 July 18:57:56 <TrueBrain> owh, you settled on a date? 18:57:59 <TrueBrain> *writes down date* 18:58:25 <planetmaker> TrueBrain, yes, people need book planes or trains 18:58:34 <planetmaker> and it was the only date all can make it who registered 18:59:01 <TrueBrain> awesome :D 18:59:03 <TrueBrain> looking forward to it :D 18:59:12 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d50-92-61-101.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:40 <planetmaker> and I didn't see need to drag the decision :-) 18:59:45 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.hdsnet.hu] has quit [] 19:04:36 <Xaroth|Work> not sure if i'm available those dates; will see 19:07:44 <__ln__> anyone invited Bjarni? 19:10:56 <andythenorth> TrueBrain is going! 19:10:59 <andythenorth> :) 19:11:16 * andythenorth can't 19:11:24 <andythenorth> our annual work summer party is that weekend 19:11:29 <Rubidium> Alberth: does the N-1 mean you can't come? 19:11:31 *** cyph3r [~Miranda@ip-213-220-193-253.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:12:00 <Alberth> I intended to mean that there is one less free seat :) 19:12:04 *** adit [~adit@39.211.139.128] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:33 <planetmaker> wouldn't our long-distance swimmer hire a sear in your car, too, TrueBrain ? 19:13:39 <planetmaker> *seat 19:14:11 <TrueBrain> depends on his arrival I guess 19:14:16 <TrueBrain> we will figure it out, I am sure :) 19:14:19 <TrueBrain> enough possibilities :) 19:14:36 <Rubidium> planetmaker: also depends on the other activities he wants to do 19:15:08 <TrueBrain> but without saying, he has piority :) 19:15:29 * andythenorth wonders if pikka will go? 19:15:52 <Rubidium> that might be especially pricey 19:16:26 <__ln__> @seen Celestar 19:16:26 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Celestar was last seen in #openttd 10 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 58 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <Celestar> hi :D 19:17:20 <planetmaker> Rubidium, sure. I'd love it, if he can arrange to stay through to monday or even leave only on Tuesday. Would allow for some nice joint photo sessions :-) 19:17:35 <planetmaker> but well. we shall see what he can find and book :-) 19:18:22 <__ln__> are you talking about the person whose nick begins with B and whose ruler is queen Elisabeth II? 19:18:40 <planetmaker> yes 19:20:15 <Rubidium> planetmaker: not sure which day he flies, but then he needs to leave at 05:51 from the station 19:20:35 <planetmaker> yes, that's what it depends on 19:20:50 <planetmaker> but we were hoping that we could arrange something like that 19:21:12 <Rubidium> alternatively he can sleep on my couch 19:23:31 <Rubidium> which would make the departure time more bearable (17:51 from you, and 10:35 from my nearest station) 19:24:17 <planetmaker> sure. unless he manages to fly a day later 19:24:54 <Rubidium> furthermore it would be possible to head for you immediately when he arrives on friday morning, and then return on sunday towards me and do some sight seeing on monday 19:25:26 <planetmaker> yeah. I guess ... we should discuss that with him when he has actually found a flight 19:25:26 *** Supercheese [~Password4@98.145.153.126] has joined #openttd 19:26:11 <Rubidium> although... by train it's probably 16:00 before arriving there 19:35:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:37:05 *** gk [~gk@host86-148-72-127.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:37:24 * andythenorth needs partial compiler for FIRS :P 19:38:09 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: whereabouts is it 19:38:17 <Xaroth|Work> maybe I can make one day; but that's tricky still 19:38:47 <Xaroth|Work> or, in vague terms, how far drive from amsterdam :P 19:38:52 <planetmaker> braunschweig. ~4.5hours from Eindhoven 19:39:14 <planetmaker> Amsterdam... 7h train or car. maybe 6 by car, if you're fast and lucky 19:39:27 <andythenorth> hmm, maybe the python stage can handle partial compiles 19:39:36 <__ln__> @seen SmatZ 19:39:36 <DorpsGek> __ln__: SmatZ was last seen in #openttd 22 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <SmatZ> I think one has to first load the intro game so the newgrf scan can be shown 19:39:41 <andythenorth> by only loading a subset of industries... 19:39:54 <andythenorth> "if I only had the time, I could save lots of time" 19:40:41 <Supercheese> andy: http://xkcd.com/1205/ 19:40:54 <andythenorth> seen it before :) 19:40:57 <Supercheese> :D 19:41:04 <Supercheese> rather relevant 19:41:38 <SmatZ> hello __ln__ :) 19:41:50 <SmatZ> how do you do? 19:41:50 <Alberth> o/ SmatZ 19:41:58 <SmatZ> hello ;-) 19:41:58 <planetmaker> SmatZ, ! 19:42:09 <Supercheese> Wow, the @seen must have drawn him in :P 19:42:13 <SmatZ> hehe 19:42:31 <planetmaker> SmatZ, any plans for 27/28 July? :D 19:42:55 <SmatZ> I noticed OpenTTD gives compilation warnings when compiled with gcc 4.7... 19:43:05 <SmatZ> well, I guess I have some plans 19:43:08 <SmatZ> like, holidays 19:43:11 <SmatZ> buttt 19:43:41 <SmatZ> I am entering new job @ 1st August, so I will take my holidays at the end of July 19:43:50 <Rubidium> SmatZ: compilation warnings like? ;) 19:43:59 <SmatZ> what should be my plans @ 27/28 of July? 19:44:08 <SmatZ> Rubidium: re-defining of _FORTIFY_SOURCES 19:44:18 <planetmaker> same place as last time with similar people and similar food 19:44:30 <SmatZ> mmm cake :) 19:44:38 <SmatZ> @revision 19:44:43 <SmatZ> mmmm wrong channel :) 19:44:49 *** Vinnie_nl [~VincentAi@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Vinnie_nl] 19:44:53 <planetmaker> I was told the path finding should be improved though, SmatZ ;-) 19:44:53 <SmatZ> Rubidium: <command-line>:0:0: warning: "_FORTIFY_SOURCE" redefined [enabled by default] 19:45:09 <SmatZ> hehe :) I should buy a current map then :) 19:45:12 <planetmaker> V453000, where are you 19:45:21 <planetmaker> (he said, he'd get a navi) 19:45:29 <Rubidium> SmatZ: so your compiler already defines FORTIFY_SOURCE 19:45:36 <V453000> OH HELO :D 19:45:45 <SmatZ> Rubidium: seems so - I wonder why it happens only with 4.7 19:45:47 <SmatZ> hello V453000 :) 19:46:00 <SmatZ> how are your C++1x studies going? :) 19:46:23 <V453000> NO :D 19:46:26 <V453000> sooo 19:46:31 <__ln__> hello SmatZ, i'm doing fine, thank you 19:46:31 <V453000> trip on 27th? :D 19:47:11 <SmatZ> I really have to think it through 19:47:27 <SmatZ> I have 9 days of holidays left, till 1st August 19:47:56 <__ln__> 27th is during weekend 19:48:01 <SmatZ> I plan to take holidays 19th-31st of July, and have a trip somewhere to the Southern Europe 19:48:23 <SmatZ> it's kinda far for South to Braunschweig 19:48:31 <SmatZ> or I can take my holidays earlier 19:48:43 <SmatZ> and go to Braunschweig on 27th :) 19:50:26 <SmatZ> unless I lose my driving licence by then... something with having .21%o, bah :-/ 19:50:55 <planetmaker> err... what? 19:51:28 <SmatZ> that alcohol level you don't even know you have any... but police does know :) 19:51:46 <planetmaker> in Germany that would be ok :-P 19:51:55 <planetmaker> except if you actually crash 19:51:58 <SmatZ> almost everywhere it would be ok :) 19:52:43 <SmatZ> but it should be "tolerated" under .24%o because of having "no provable effect on driving skills" 19:53:31 <SmatZ> but ok, I will try hard to get to the party on 27th :) 19:53:44 <SmatZ> what party will it be? 19:53:52 <SmatZ> r25k? :) 19:54:28 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=66728 19:54:59 <planetmaker> so, in a way yes 19:55:58 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has joined #openttd 19:56:33 *** Tvel [~Thunderbi@94.156.118.159] has quit [] 19:57:10 <SmatZ> nice, A LOT OF people! 19:57:18 <SmatZ> like, Belugas! from Canada! 19:57:31 <SmatZ> it's a must-go for me :) 19:57:40 <planetmaker> haha :-) 19:58:54 *** Alberth [~hat3@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:59:05 <frosch123> so, only missing ones are yexo and zachanima now, right? 19:59:37 <planetmaker> basically yes 19:59:54 <planetmaker> I wonder if we can motivate yexo :-) 20:00:04 <andythenorth> go big 20:00:05 <SmatZ> :) 20:00:07 <andythenorth> try for Dalestan 20:00:19 <SmatZ> :P 20:07:34 *** Vinnie_nl [~VincentAi@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:00 <V453000> I iz in teh list naow 20:17:10 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: did you have any requests for libottdadmin? 20:21:40 <andythenorth> ugh 20:21:46 <andythenorth> while FIRS is compiling I go on YT 20:21:52 <andythenorth> then I waste 10 mins reading comments 20:22:14 <V453000> exactly, long compiling times are taking away so much focus :D 20:22:19 <V453000> I know exactly what you are talking about :D 20:23:22 <planetmaker> Xaroth, not yet really. I've not dived deep enough into it 20:24:16 <planetmaker> yeah... I always hope that my changes to opengfx+landscape are not in the main source files... then it takes 30 minutes to re-generate all sprites :D 20:24:22 <planetmaker> even with like -j6 20:24:37 <planetmaker> I leave the other two cores for youtube and stuff :D 20:25:04 <andythenorth> I really need to fix FIRS compiles :P 20:26:01 <planetmaker> why is it that slow... slowest is sprites and they're reasonably cached 20:26:26 <planetmaker> even opengfx is reasonably fast when I only changed a sprite 20:26:34 <V453000> Ammler is not coming? :( 20:26:41 <andythenorth> planetmaker: it's just big 20:27:06 <planetmaker> oh, dunno... he's rarely on... Ammler should come to BS on 27/28 July 20:27:19 <planetmaker> I fear he won't :-( 20:27:40 <andythenorth> firs.nml is nearly 300k lines 20:27:47 <andythenorth> ok, lot's are empty newlines 20:27:51 <andythenorth> lots * 20:27:55 <V453000> template-generated, that is cheating! :P 20:28:05 <planetmaker> no :-) 20:28:17 <V453000> oh :D 20:28:27 <planetmaker> V453000, otherwise opengfx+landscape has around... 20 sprites :D 20:28:34 <V453000> mhm :) 20:28:38 <planetmaker> the rest is template-generated 20:29:03 <andythenorth> herp, my templating step has gone from 10s to 30s 20:29:05 <andythenorth> how interesting 20:29:28 <V453000> also where is andythenorth on 27th 20:29:29 <V453000> the hell 20:29:37 <andythenorth> doing a work thing 20:29:41 <andythenorth> hope it's sunny 20:29:48 <andythenorth> we'll be outside 20:29:57 <planetmaker> we hopefully, too 20:30:05 <planetmaker> will be crowded otherwise :-) 20:32:27 <andythenorth> http://www.railpictures.net/photo/439913/ 20:32:36 <andythenorth> 'alpine.grf' 20:32:43 <andythenorth> (green + snow) 20:32:45 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 20:33:02 <planetmaker> alberth made me wonder if arctic isn't too... gloomy by default 20:33:42 <andythenorth> herp, actual alpine http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=440989&nseq=19 20:36:23 <planetmaker> also alpine https://plus.google.com/photos/107191069901530811927/albums/5777180574828503601/5777181975204677234?authkey=CKCpr7uO6aDBtQE&pid=5777181975204677234&oid=107191069901530811927 20:37:13 <andythenorth> lok 20:38:08 <planetmaker> lok? 20:40:05 <V453000> I would understand it as "random reply to a photo" :D 20:40:33 <andythenorth> is that small thing a lok? 20:41:18 <andythenorth> nvm if I'm talking nonsense 20:41:23 <Bad_Brett> it is 20:41:27 <planetmaker> it's an engine, yes 20:41:35 <Bad_Brett> at least in sweden it's a lok 20:41:38 <planetmaker> I didn't know that English-men used "lok" 20:43:12 <V453000> I think lok2000 is a specific model pm 20:43:35 <planetmaker> that might be. But I've no clue as of what model I imaged there :-) 20:43:43 <andythenorth> I built some austrian engines in lego, approximately 20:43:52 <andythenorth> I remembered the word lok from there 20:43:53 <V453000> :D 20:44:34 <planetmaker> yes... it's the German word for rail engine... with capital "L". Lok 20:44:41 <planetmaker> or long form Lokomotive 20:44:59 <V453000> zugzug :)) 20:45:08 <planetmaker> nono :-) 20:45:19 <planetmaker> just Zug. Not to confuse with the town of Zug 20:45:57 <V453000> zugzugzug :) 20:46:28 <planetmaker> hm, it's even the name of a whole kanton 20:46:44 <planetmaker> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_of_Zug 20:47:32 <V453000> :D 20:48:23 <Bad_Brett> how do i set the length of a ship in NML? 20:48:39 <michi_cc> planetmaker: Should we try to invite mb? ;) 20:48:42 <frosch123> there is no such thing as the length of a ship 20:49:13 <planetmaker> ^ 20:49:20 <Supercheese> set the sprite bounding box 20:49:22 <V453000> train ships have lengths :( 20:49:23 <Supercheese> that's about all you do 20:49:26 * V453000 runs away with tears 20:49:31 <V453000> *in tears 20:51:39 <Bad_Brett> oh yeah... they lack collision detection. well, i guess that will make it easy to add the graphics then 20:51:41 <planetmaker> is dihedral actually around? :-) 20:52:34 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25455 /trunk/src (gfx.cpp gfx_func.h) (2013-06-24 20:52:28 UTC) 20:52:35 <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: make local function really local 20:57:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25456 trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp (2013-06-24 20:57:50 UTC) 20:57:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5560]: Assertion when opening the refit GUI for a not refittable vehicle. 20:58:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25457 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-24 20:58:25 UTC) 20:58:33 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Do not test EF_AUTO_REFIT for the mail apartment or rotor of aircraft. 21:00:37 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean a compartment? :) 21:01:06 <planetmaker> :-) 21:01:11 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25458 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-24 21:01:05 UTC) 21:01:12 <DorpsGek> -Fix-ish: Enable the autorefit-button in the order GUI in case the vehicle is not auto-refittable but already has a autorefit-order set to allow clearing the refit. 21:01:47 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 21:02:31 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25459 trunk/src/order_gui.cpp (2013-06-24 21:02:26 UTC) 21:02:32 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Disable the depot-refit button in the order GUI, if the consist is not refittable. 21:03:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "Correlation or causality: when air pollution drops, the number of tropical storms rises" :p 21:04:34 <planetmaker> aerosols heavily influence energy input and distribution in the atmosphere 21:07:50 <peter1138> hmm, diffing json wasn't such a great idea... there's no line breaks :p 21:19:11 <andythenorth> hmm, chameleon templating is 7x too slow for reasons I can't see 21:20:59 <V453000> chameleons are usually slow 21:21:10 <V453000> WHEREAS UNICORNS ... 21:22:26 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: token-based diff :) 21:22:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:22:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 21:26:41 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:26:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [] 21:36:42 <frosch123> night 21:36:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc5de.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: quak] 21:38:14 *** permagreen [~donovan@204.195.27.175] has joined #openttd 21:39:59 <andythenorth> hmm 21:40:07 <andythenorth> anyone can answer this one for me? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1084180#p1084180 21:40:17 <andythenorth> town effect got discussed a few times for FIRS 21:40:21 <andythenorth> but I don't recall the outcome 21:40:43 <peter1138> a specific json diff will do the job, but then i needn't be serializing to json in the first place 21:40:47 <andythenorth> I thought only one cargo could define each TE 21:43:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A185F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:49 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: there... 22:00:11 <Eddi|zuHause> one TE per cargo, multiple cargos per TE 22:00:28 <Terkhen> good night 22:00:29 <andythenorth> oh thanks 22:00:37 <andythenorth> oh yes, the gui was the limitation 22:00:42 <andythenorth> I don't like hidden magic 22:00:50 <andythenorth> didn't that get fixed some time back though? 22:01:00 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe the GUI got fixed with cargo lists 22:01:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't followed this 22:01:34 <andythenorth> me neither :) 22:03:03 *** adit [~adit@182.14.58.140] has joined #openttd 22:08:09 <Xaroth|Work> planetmaker: you happen to recall where the documentation for the admin protocol resided? 22:09:27 <planetmaker> Xaroth, yes... in your library, in dih's library, and in OpenTTD's source code 22:09:38 * planetmaker also assumes that you hoped for another answer 22:09:58 <glx> isn't there something on the wiki too ? 22:09:59 <planetmaker> src/network/network_admin* or so 22:10:01 <Xaroth|Work> there was a text file which explained everything 22:10:07 <Xaroth|Work> besides the source files 22:10:07 <planetmaker> oh? hm 22:10:19 *** Ristovski [~rafael@31.11.127.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:10:37 <planetmaker> docs/admin_network.txt 22:10:52 <Xaroth|Work> AH! 22:10:52 <Xaroth|Work> thanks 22:11:27 <__ln__> 22:59 < frosch123> so, only missing ones are yexo and zachanima now, right? <-- actually also Ammler 22:11:41 <planetmaker> sounds like the first place I'd have looked :-P 22:11:46 <andythenorth> is coffee an express cargo? :P 22:11:52 <andythenorth> (coffee beans, not liquid coffee) 22:11:54 <Xaroth|Work> I.. don't venture often in the ottd source ;) 22:11:59 <planetmaker> andythenorth, no 22:12:09 * andythenorth agrees 22:12:45 <planetmaker> Xaroth, if you feel like... a supybot plugin would be ideal :D 22:13:45 <Xaroth|Work> supybot gives me headaches :P 22:13:58 <Xaroth|Work> first I'm optimizing the packet lib a weeeee bit 22:14:42 <DorpsGek> tsk tsk 22:14:58 * Xaroth|Work eyes planetmaker 22:15:09 <Xaroth|Work> TrueBrain was talking when that happened, so it was you :P 22:15:21 <Xaroth|Work> or at least, it wasn't him for once 22:15:30 <planetmaker> lies! 22:16:13 <planetmaker> :-) 22:16:53 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@187.58.246.232] has joined #openttd 22:16:53 <Xaroth|Work> I can clearly see I made my old lib YEARS ago 22:18:31 <planetmaker> :-) 22:18:48 <planetmaker> yes, you even stopped following your own code, according to github :-P 22:18:56 <Xaroth|Work> er, bitbucket 22:19:07 <Xaroth|Work> and yes, I messed something up with my account there :P 22:19:15 <Xaroth|Work> have since switched to github as well 22:19:29 *** Vinnie_nl [~VincentAi@54681098.cm-12-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Im going to kill some smurfs] 22:19:47 <Xaroth|Work> which, to me, works a gazillion times better 22:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/bengts/gsv/U-/Uacns/LKAB/1810.jpg 22:23:41 <Xaroth|Work> a train that unrolls it's own power cable? 22:23:58 <andythenorth> tram? 22:24:19 <Eddi|zuHause> industrial shunting stuff 22:24:20 <planetmaker> looks like "real" train to me 22:24:25 *** adit` [~adit@182.2.201.119] has joined #openttd 22:24:33 * andythenorth bed 22:24:35 <andythenorth> good night 22:24:41 <planetmaker> night, andythenorth 22:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause> says Luleå in the description 22:25:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:29:04 *** adit [~adit@182.14.58.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:46 *** flaa [~flaa@89.100.79.103] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:40:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 22:43:07 <Xaroth|Work> nn o> 22:43:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:44:01 <andythenorth> caching the output from chameleon makes FIRS pre-processor run in ~1.4s instead of ~30s 22:44:03 <andythenorth> win 22:44:14 <andythenorth> now just need to make nml faster :P 22:44:29 *** adit` [~adit@182.2.201.119] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:44:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc22-aztw25-2-0-cust272.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:52:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A239.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:07 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.75.224] has quit [] 23:09:41 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-247-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 23:15:17 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-247-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:18 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 23:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjhszy2f9w 23:34:50 <Bad_Brett> haha 23:35:19 <Bad_Brett> it's funny because it's true 23:36:54 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-095-033-247-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit []