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00:00:07 <LeandroL> question: any tips for getting extra mail in my terminals/airports? 00:00:22 <LeandroL> I've been playing online lately and my bottleneck for city growth is always mail 00:00:31 <Rubidium> transfer + no loading 00:00:51 <Rubidium> okay... I'm getting too annoying and ought to go to bed 00:01:24 <LeandroL> is it worth building 4 or 5 truck terminals on small towns to gather mail across town and transfer it to the town airport? 00:01:40 <LeandroL> say a town with population 1000 that i'm already servicing with an airport 00:02:02 <LeandroL> is it worth building truck stations to gather mail from across town and transfer it to the airport? 00:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 00:04:30 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 00:04:47 <LeandroL> sweet. thanks! 00:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> although airplanes are imho hopeless if your aim is to transport the most cargo 00:05:31 <LeandroL> i go with airplanes because they're the most profitable 00:05:36 <LeandroL> especially at the beginning of the game 00:05:52 <LeandroL> have in mind that i'm playing very short citybuilder games 00:05:53 <Eddi|zuHause> that they are good at 00:06:07 <LeandroL> first company with population 3000 or 4000 wins 00:06:14 <LeandroL> short and sweet :) 00:06:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't like short games 00:07:02 <LeandroL> it's a matter of personal taste i guess 00:07:22 <LeandroL> i like playing many short games and trying different strategies until i find something that works 00:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> play 100 years at daylength x8 over several months :) 00:08:01 <LeandroL> we're at opposite sides of the spectrum 00:09:17 <Eddi|zuHause> connect all towns and industries with cargodist and get enough capacity to move all cargos (especially passengers) 00:09:40 * LeandroL is googling cargodist 00:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a new feature in nightlies (1.4) 00:10:13 <LeandroL> oh that sounds incredibly useful 00:10:42 <LeandroL> i thought what cargodist implements was default behavior until i realized it is not. it was very frustrating 00:11:23 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:24 <Eddi|zuHause> this is the result of the last game i played (although that is quite a while ago now) www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Loisachkirchen%20Transport,%2013.%20Apr%202027.png (12MB) 00:13:39 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:15:59 <LeandroL> that's insane 00:16:03 <LeandroL> those cities are beautiful btw 00:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the beaty of this game, everybody is a different kind of insane :p 00:17:07 <NGC3982> BRIDGES. 00:17:08 <LeandroL> :) 00:17:11 <NGC3982> :D. 00:17:36 <LeandroL> one thing i was surprised when i first started playing this game is the lack of highways 00:18:14 <LeandroL> highways would look pretty cool in a crowded city 00:18:30 <glx> vehicles rarely overtake 00:18:48 <LeandroL> true 00:18:54 <LeandroL> and if they do, you're probably doing something wrong 00:19:04 <Eddi|zuHause> highways might look beautiful, but they're not very useful in this game 00:19:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but i haven't played a heavy road game yet 00:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a "dutch highway set" (eyecandy only) though 00:19:48 <LeandroL> roads are very profitable in small games 00:19:55 <LeandroL> i.e. 64x64, 64x128 00:20:05 <LeandroL> compared to trains, that is 00:20:13 <glx> of course there's no place for trains then 00:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> that image above is the smallest game i ever played for a significant amount of time 00:20:34 <LeandroL> in a 64x128 game there might be space for some trains 00:20:46 <LeandroL> Eddi|zuHause: what are the dimensions? 00:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> that's 128x256 i believe 00:20:56 <glx> true, but in 64x64 there's not 00:21:06 <LeandroL> glx: no, there really isn't 00:21:15 <glx> and usually some industries are missing too 00:21:19 <LeandroL> i tried building trains in a 64x64 game but they're not really profitable 00:21:28 <LeandroL> and it limits city growth 00:21:39 <glx> distances are too short for trains 00:21:50 <LeandroL> and you have to build lots of bridges and tunnels which make trains even less efficient 00:21:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i vaguely remember a (miniin?) test game where i tested some PBS bug 00:22:03 <LeandroL> Eddi|zuHause: btw i love how pines look in that map 00:22:21 <LeandroL> Eddi|zuHause: are you one of the developers? 00:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause> not really 00:23:11 <Eddi|zuHause> as in "i did write a handful of (smaller) patches" but "i don't have commit access to the repository" 00:23:24 <LeandroL> you're a contributor then 00:23:25 <LeandroL> that's cool 00:24:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i do talk a lot and sometimes people get the idea to listen to me, though :) 00:25:39 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.167] has joined #openttd 00:27:01 <juzza1> Eddi|zuHause: what trees are those in your screenshot? 00:27:39 <Eddi|zuHause> juzza1: you can read the grf list in the metadata (like with exiftool) 00:28:13 <juzza1> ok 00:28:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe it's called "treesw.grf", (a variant of "stolentrees") but i have a feeling it's not really accessible anymore 00:29:17 <juzza1> okay 00:30:49 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 00:31:40 <glx> luckily the map is not too big for a giant screenshot ;) 00:42:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that's one of the reasons i played such a rather small map 00:43:17 <Supercheese> Hmm, compile troubles with most recent New Map Features 00:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause> (because it's a patched build and few people could load a savegame) 00:43:29 <Supercheese> 'unique_ptr' : is not a member of 'std' 00:43:54 <Eddi|zuHause> ask in the patch thread? 00:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> although that sounds like a library problem 00:44:39 <Supercheese> Seemingly dealing with C++11 features 00:45:00 <Supercheese> so compiler issue, even 00:45:45 <Eddi|zuHause> the language specs don't cover the compiler only 00:48:46 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50:46 <juzza1> found the tree newgrfs at simuscape, is someone else is interested 00:50:57 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:55:33 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@46.65.41.135] has quit [Quit: nickshanks] 00:58:16 <Supercheese> Might have to switch compilers :S 00:58:34 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:56 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:58a0:8a47:ee4f:2e83] has joined #openttd 01:12:35 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:15 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 01:21:30 *** treaki__ [c8c8b7d199@p4FDF6D10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:22:08 *** treaki [6e92918c56@p4FF4B4B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:49:05 *** DDR [~kvirc@184.71.170.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:59:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:18:54 *** basicsquirrel [~basicsqui@cpc4-nrte26-2-0-cust177.8-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:40 *** basicsquirrel [~basicsqui@cpc4-nrte26-2-0-cust177.8-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 02:49:38 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:27:04 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39:31 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:41:52 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 05:19:16 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 05:43:25 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.31] has joined #openttd 06:18:33 *** arand__ [~arand@nl116-226-21.student.uu.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:23:13 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.81.104] has joined #openttd 06:30:33 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@f052242094.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:37:40 *** Jomann [~abchirk@g229088221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:43:18 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:44:39 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 06:46:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC675BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 06:46:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD52EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:59:22 *** arand__ [~arand@nl116-226-21.student.uu.se] has joined #openttd 07:13:35 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.139.241] has joined #openttd 07:17:29 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:05 *** roadt [~roadt@60.168.81.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6D798.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:31 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.102.7] has joined #openttd 08:02:31 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.101.217] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:42 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 08:18:26 *** DJGummikuh [~djgummiku@srv02.letsplayonline.eu] has joined #openttd 08:18:29 <DJGummikuh> hello! 08:18:48 <Supercheese> Salutations 08:18:55 <DJGummikuh> one quick question, I'm just trying to get this admin port thingy to working. however, the server does not state that it's listening on port 3977 during startup and I also am not able to connect as it seems 08:18:59 <DJGummikuh> am I missing something obvious here? 08:19:39 <DJGummikuh> I configured the admin password in .oppenttd/openttd.cfg and started the whole rig 08:19:57 <DJGummikuh> I even added 0.0.0.0 to server_bind_adresses as per your wiki stating that the admin interface only listens to localhost otherwise 08:20:47 <Supercheese> I cannot answer that, sorry, I've never done network/multiplayer stuff 08:21:06 <DJGummikuh> mmh ok seems I already found the issue... 08:21:39 <DJGummikuh> :-/ I'm trying to connect to this admin port by using grapes on my machine... but grapes keeps insisting that it cannot properly connect 08:23:03 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 08:25:32 *** Pecio [~fgh@agae251.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:32:29 <DJGummikuh> MEH what am I doing wrong? 08:32:43 <DJGummikuh> what does it take to make openttd open that damn admin port? 08:41:32 <DJGummikuh> I am so smart! SMRT! 08:41:54 <DJGummikuh> I edited the openttd.cfg while the server was still running 08:42:03 <DJGummikuh> then when I shut it down for restart it overwrote the config with its own old one.... 08:42:05 <Supercheese> and then it gets overwritten on close 08:42:07 <Supercheese> yep 08:42:21 <DJGummikuh> very intuitive :) 08:49:08 <Xaroth|Work> lolz 08:53:43 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.102.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:01 *** LuHa [~harny@14.50.173.242] has joined #openttd 09:00:22 *** Japa [~Japa@117.214.2.40] has joined #openttd 09:05:51 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #openttd 09:32:08 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: nickshanks] 09:37:17 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #openttd 09:37:27 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 09:38:05 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:18 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:20 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:20 *** Osai [~Osai@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:34 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:59 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40:40 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:40:48 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:18 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:29 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:30 *** V453000 [~V453000@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:33 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:35 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@0001612d.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:55 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:05 <LuHa> hello :D 09:59:45 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:59:45 *** Osai [~Osai@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:00:15 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:00:45 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@0001612d.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:00:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 10:01:16 *** avdg [~avdg@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:01:37 *** pm [~planetmak@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:01:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o pm] by ChanServ 10:02:01 *** tneo [~tneo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:02:07 *** Ammler [~ammler@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:02:46 *** V453000 [~V453000@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:02:46 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:02:59 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:03:16 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:04:05 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-69-104-16-177.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:17 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:05:13 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:09:11 <DJGummikuh> hey where do I find support for grapes? 10:09:45 <pm> dihedral, is the author for grapes 10:09:53 <DJGummikuh> dihedral are you there? 10:09:56 <DJGummikuh> *ping* 10:09:57 <DJGummikuh> :) 10:11:28 <pm> DJGummikuh, better put a meaningful question in a highlight if the person is not around right now 10:12:01 <DJGummikuh> mh agreed. however, at the moment the question for availability (given that he has no |away or similar at his nick) was meaningful enough for me ;) 10:12:04 <pm> otherwise it's just annoying if one sees a highlight eight hours later - and it's just a 'where are you'. Well, not here obviously ;-) 10:12:16 <DJGummikuh> in addition, he's from germany so he should be awake at the moment 10:12:32 <pm> yeah. And at work thus 10:13:14 <DJGummikuh> mh.. that's not really an issue I would assume ;) 10:13:17 <DJGummikuh> anyways. 10:14:56 *** pm is now known as planetmaker 10:15:43 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:51 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-69-104-16-177.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:21:58 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-69-104-16-177.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:12 <Xaroth|Work> DJGummikuh: not everybody can chat while at work :) 10:24:45 <planetmaker> at least not always :-) 10:24:47 <DJGummikuh> dihedral: I'm trying to wrap my head around grapes. Is there any tutorial on how to create a plugin? Or would it be easier to just use grape as a library? 10:25:11 <DJGummikuh> dihedral: I have my chat running in screen, so if you can answer, just pm me with the answer please 10:25:46 <planetmaker> grapes consists of berries. Berries are the plug-ins for grapes 10:25:57 <planetmaker> there's at least one demo plug-in in that sub-project 10:28:37 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #openttd 10:28:58 <DJGummikuh> is dev.openttdcoop.org down? I can't connect to that server 10:29:29 <planetmaker> we lost connection to our server a few minutes ago. We're busy to start-up that stuff which failed to restart automatically 10:30:03 <planetmaker> try in a few minutes. Sorry for the inconvenience 10:30:50 <DJGummikuh> oh ok. I already assumed it's my shitty internet :) 10:36:54 <planetmaker> should work again 11:05:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f5dc5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:08 <DJGummikuh> mmh is there a documentation about the berries api? 11:07:06 <Xaroth|Work> somewhere on the bush 11:07:13 <Xaroth|Work> next to the shrubberies 11:09:03 <LordAro> quak 11:12:32 <frosch123> moin 11:14:32 *** Stimrol_ [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:18:36 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:20:36 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@host213-120-126-47.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Quit: nickshanks] 11:22:55 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:33 <LuHa> hi, i have some question. 11:28:05 <LuHa> i coding some fixture. but i don't know hot can submit it. 11:28:48 <LuHa> i just upload flyspray. it's correct? 11:30:12 <frosch123> yup 11:30:27 <LuHa> frosch123: wow, thx 11:30:40 <frosch123> just don't expect it to be handled fast :p 11:30:40 <LuHa> and how can i talk in #openttd.dev? 11:45:56 <DJGummikuh> ok someone can give me a serious hint on where to look for support with berries? I can't seem to find a project page that has more than 1 3year old ticket on it for berries 11:46:52 <frosch123> here or devzone project, that's all there is 11:47:01 <frosch123> there are not many people messing with admin port 11:48:03 <DJGummikuh> earlier someone mentioned a demo project - I can't even seem to find that... 11:48:43 <DJGummikuh> frosch123: why not? it's an awesome additin from my point of view 11:50:38 <frosch123> no idea, i think there are < 10 people who ever used it 11:50:54 <frosch123> and half of them wanted to use a different programming language, so started over from scratch 11:51:04 <frosch123> there is java, python, c#, c++, ... 11:51:16 <frosch123> likely the latter 2 didn't even start up though 11:51:20 <DJGummikuh> well java is perfect for me :) 11:55:30 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 11:56:10 <DJGummikuh> on what is the protocol based anyways? plaintext? rcp?packet enums? 11:56:43 <planetmaker> DJGummikuh, 'grapes' is the actual demo project. It uses the java lib 'joan' and plug-ins from 'berries' 11:57:54 <Xaroth|Work> frosch123: the 2nd starts up :) 11:58:11 <planetmaker> afaik c#, too. But it's closed-source 11:58:15 <Xaroth|Work> laaaame :P 11:58:16 <planetmaker> and not available for download either 11:58:22 <planetmaker> afaik 11:58:25 <Xaroth|Work> even more laaaame :p 11:58:29 <planetmaker> yeah 12:00:05 <planetmaker> DJGummikuh, the documentation of graphes/berries/joan might be a bit older. But it is being worked on, albeit a slow pace - according to commit logs 12:02:29 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 12:14:40 <DJGummikuh> mmh.. ok but grapes seems to have no joan classes incorporated oO or is the package naming inconsistent here? 12:28:31 <DJGummikuh> wtf I keep getting Connection timed out 12:28:34 <DJGummikuh> even though the port is open 12:35:57 <DJGummikuh> hmm my server can't reach the master openttd server? 12:36:14 <DJGummikuh> dbg: [net] [udp] sendto([master.openttd.org]:3978 (IPv6)) failed with: 101 12:38:18 <DJGummikuh> yay nice, beginning to work 12:40:21 <DJGummikuh> Now is there a way that I can send a Message to the server without the format name:message? 12:40:31 <DJGummikuh> like a broadcast message if you like? 12:41:42 <DJGummikuh> 'say blah' always prepends the name of the sender.. 12:41:52 <DJGummikuh> I can alter that but that is also logged in the client and I don't want that 12:43:31 <DJGummikuh> haha nice :) [net] [admin] Rcon command from 'Simple Console' (0.1): 'kick 1' 12:43:34 <DJGummikuh> ERROR: Silly boy, you can not kick yourself! 12:50:23 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:55:42 <Xaroth|Work> there is 12:55:54 <Xaroth|Work> not sure how joan does that 12:56:14 <Xaroth|Work> but libottdadmin2 does it 13:00:11 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 13:02:52 *** nex259 [~nex259@ZL084140.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 13:03:04 <nex259> Hi 13:07:48 <MNIM> planetmaker: forgive me for ignorance, because I haven't checked lately, but has a form of cargodist made it into trunk/stable yet? 13:09:13 <frosch123> trunk, 3 months ago 13:09:48 <MNIM> oh. cool. 13:17:13 <nex259> I cannot view/edit Japanese translation... my WT3 account settting is broken? 13:17:27 <MNIM> Hmmmh. 13:20:36 <MNIM> frosch123: where are the related settings? 13:20:39 <planetmaker> nex259, what's your registered user name? 13:21:06 <nex259> "nex259" 13:21:10 <planetmaker> MNIM, adv. settings -> cargodist 13:21:13 <planetmaker> iirc 13:21:18 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:48 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has joined #openttd 13:21:53 <planetmaker> that person has editor access, thus nothing should have changed on our part, nex259 13:21:54 <MNIM> 0.o 13:21:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't used "stable" cargodist yet, but it was "linkgraph settings" or something 13:22:04 <MNIM> something must be wrong, because I can't find it 13:22:30 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: set the filter to settings for "advanced" and not "basic"? 13:24:11 <planetmaker> nex259, sometimes login is a bit... weired. Login normally. And then enter the http://translator.openttd.org manually again in the browser address bar 13:25:03 <MNIM> It's set to all settings, still can't find. 13:25:18 <MNIM> I'm starting to wonder if I updated correctly. :/ 13:25:54 <Eddi|zuHause> MNIM: easiest check: the title bar at the main menu 13:25:56 <planetmaker> you're not trying 1.3.2, yes? 13:26:23 <planetmaker> what's the version of OpenTTD you run? 13:26:57 <nex259> hmm... 13:28:40 <MNIM> 1.3.2 13:29:05 <planetmaker> MNIM, well. That's not trunk 13:29:07 <nex259> login success, and view other languages is no problem,but only Japanese is not 13:29:08 <planetmaker> get a nightly 13:29:27 <MNIM> ooooh. 13:29:46 <planetmaker> nex259, 'edit' menu on top does not teleport you to editing Japanese? 13:30:12 <planetmaker> https://secure.openttd.org/translator/en/edit @ nex259 13:31:05 <MNIM> Bleh. I thought it would've migrated into the releases by now. 13:31:31 <planetmaker> then we would have said so... but we said "trunk" ;-) 13:32:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:32:15 <nex259> teleport is success, but dont display any translation 13:32:53 <planetmaker> o_O 13:33:07 <planetmaker> you are right, nex259 13:33:10 <nex259> and "XML error" message shown 13:33:11 <planetmaker> it's not your login 13:33:19 <MNIM> planetmaker: ah. I kinda used trunk/releases interchangeably. didn't realize there was a difference 13:33:41 <planetmaker> trunk = development version 13:33:48 <planetmaker> development version != release 13:34:23 <nex259> "HTTP Error: no XML data received"... 13:36:47 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-69-104-16-177.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:39:03 <planetmaker> yeah. I see that. It might take a few hours fix that at least, nex259. The people who have permission to access the relevant part of the webtranslator are currently not online 13:40:08 <planetmaker> thanks a lot for pointing out that bug 13:40:16 <nex259> thanks 13:43:46 <planetmaker> hm, I see that you actually reported that *one month* ago... 13:45:35 <planetmaker> and you reported it well and in the right place :S 14:04:04 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:20:41 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 14:36:00 *** Ristovski [~rafael@89.205.3.77] has joined #openttd 14:51:21 *** Pecio [~fgh@agae251.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 15:40:59 <Eddi|zuHause> anybody besides me confused about planetmaker changing colours? 15:42:28 <frosch123> when did he change colour? 15:42:53 <frosch123> he used some weird nicks the previous days, but the main nick has still the same colour as always 15:44:26 <frosch123> though i never figured out what makes nicknames coloured 15:45:01 <frosch123> whether it's a pure client thing on the viewer's site, or whether the server has influence 15:45:33 <SpComb> /nick SpComb 15:45:58 * peter1138 nicks SpComb 15:48:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D798.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:49:19 <frosch123> "You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." <- dorpsgek can be so cruel :( 16:00:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25943 trunk/src/newgrf_debug_gui.cpp (2013-11-06 15:10:17 UTC) 16:00:24 <DorpsGek> -Fix: NewGRF inspect window in RTL mode. 16:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: konversation assigns the colour to the first nick that is writing something, nickchanges afterwards keep that colour. upon (daily) reconnect, that "memory" of the colour is reset 16:04:42 <frosch123> i am using konversation as well, but that behaviour does not apply to my client 16:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> it might be a setting 16:07:49 <frosch123> internet says conversation computed the colour from the nickname via some hash formula 16:08:18 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a reasonable assumption 16:08:30 <frosch123> hmm, maybe i misunderstood you 16:08:48 <frosch123> maybe you reconnected when pm was using a different nickname 16:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the first thing pm said today was with the nick "pm" 16:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause> then he renamed to "planetmaker", but kept the "pm" colour 16:09:41 <frosch123> yeah, then i misunderstood you 16:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> when i reconnect tomorrow, then it'll reset to the "planetmaker" colour, unless he changes nicks again 16:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause> (that also works if he reconnects) 16:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't find a setting for "remember nick colour after renaming" 16:12:57 <frosch123> i doubt there i 16:13:00 <frosch123> s 16:13:14 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe it was not ported from kde3 to kde4 or something 16:13:25 <Eddi|zuHause> or i remember another client 16:13:53 <frosch123> konversation looked to me like the only program that did not completely change from 3 to 4 :p 16:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> there were a few changes 16:34:57 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't really remember anymore 16:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause> there was something about tooltips not being carried over 16:56:14 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:59:00 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:58 *** LuHa [~harny@14.50.173.242] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:14:09 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.139.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:53 *** Hendrick [~Hendrick@212.93.105.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:37:27 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: .] 17:37:45 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:21 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 17:54:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:56 *** DDR [~kvirc@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 18:29:00 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:44 <NGC3982> Poop. 18:34:15 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:57 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 18:46:53 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:51:06 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:52:42 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:03:55 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-97-204.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:08:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:09:59 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25944 /trunk/src/lang (latvian.txt swedish.txt) (2013-11-06 18:45:14 UTC) 19:35:23 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:24 <DorpsGek> latvian - 5 changes by Parastais 19:35:25 <DorpsGek> swedish - 2 changes by Joel_A 19:40:37 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 19:40:48 <andythenorth> O/ 19:41:14 <andythenorth> Meh, my SSD died 19:41:18 <andythenorth> Or my mac 19:41:24 <andythenorth> Dunno which yet 19:42:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i had an USB stick die on me 19:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> as in can't write to it anymore, only read 19:42:55 <frosch123> i had an usb stick with broken connector, when i held it and pressured it in a certain direction,l it still worked 19:43:52 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: maybe your writing license expired 19:44:09 <LordAro> i have a usb stick which refuses to be recognised, despite being apparently perfectly fine physically 19:53:39 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@194.168.185.226] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00:00 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:47 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host180-136-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:16:45 <Wolf01> hello o/ 20:16:55 <peter1138> is it me you're looking for 20:22:03 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:33 *** zydeco [~zydeco@19.68.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 20:29:37 *** apiecux [~apiecux@ui89-892t.21z4-ee.ldti.srv.parano.me] has joined #openttd 20:33:33 <apiecux> hello 20:33:43 <apiecux> during game, is it possible to change sea level? 20:34:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no 20:35:54 <apiecux> and map size? 20:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause> no 20:52:05 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:40 *** nickshanks [~nickshank@46.65.41.135] has joined #openttd 21:17:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:55 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:41:37 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:42:12 <nickshanks> it's been a while since i played. how do i buy a bus/train again? :) 21:42:29 <Taede> do you have a depot? 21:42:32 <nickshanks> yes 21:42:50 <Taede> click the depot, then the button new vehicles 21:43:03 <Taede> select from the list, click the buy button 21:43:45 <nickshanks> don't see any buy button 21:43:55 <nickshanks> "buy new vehicles" i mean 21:44:31 <Taede> bottom left of the depot-window? 21:44:37 <Taede> new vehicles 21:45:13 <Taede> that opens a new window with vehicles which you can buy in that depot 21:47:23 <nickshanks> http://web.nickshanks.com/openttd/bus-depot.png 21:47:42 <nickshanks> that's what i see. has it changed since about a year ago? 21:47:49 <Taede> ah, that is a station 21:47:52 <planetmaker> nickshanks, that's a station window 21:47:58 <planetmaker> and you should update your base set :-) 21:48:06 <nickshanks> that's zBase 21:48:27 <Taede> in the construction toolbar, the button to the right of the dynamite will build a depot 21:48:31 <Taede> where you can build vehicles 21:48:34 <planetmaker> I see, yes. then don't update yet :-) 21:49:03 <nickshanks> i get that window when i click on a bus depot 21:49:16 <glx> it's a bus station 21:49:18 <nickshanks> oh, crap 21:49:31 <nickshanks> i am building the terminus stations thinking they are depos 21:49:41 <glx> depots don't have names above them ;) 21:49:53 <nickshanks> yeah, geez, i am a dufus 21:50:03 <nickshanks> now i remember :D 21:50:56 <nickshanks> 26 October 2012 is the most recent saved game on my old computer 21:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> mine is 6. Apr 2012 21:54:38 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host109-150-76-32.range109-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:01:39 *** basicsquirrel [~basicsqui@cpc4-nrte26-2-0-cust177.8-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 22:05:44 <Wolf01> I started my last game on 2010, still playing 22:09:00 <__ln__> in-game year 2010? 22:09:23 <Wolf01> in R-word year :P 22:10:50 <Wolf01> I play 1-2 hours every now and then, I think I'm on game-year 21xx 22:11:09 <Kjetil> When I was young the game ended in 2070 22:12:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6D4F4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:14:06 <planetmaker> likely another game 22:15:05 <planetmaker> This game allows endless play for at least 7 or 8 years 22:16:01 *** basicsquirrel [~basicsqui@cpc4-nrte26-2-0-cust177.8-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:43 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:19:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D798.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:44 <Kjetil> well.. the years stopped progressing in 2070 :P 22:22:30 <__ln__> that's right 22:37:05 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:06 <Wolf01> 'night 22:41:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:08:23 <peter1138> Hmm... openswan... 23:11:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Kjetil: no, it was 2090 23:11:23 <__ln__> objection 23:11:45 <Eddi|zuHause> 1920+170 23:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 170*365.25 23:12:23 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 62092.5 23:12:34 <Eddi|zuHause> just short of 64k days 23:17:17 <__ln__> @calc 150*365.25 23:17:17 <DorpsGek> __ln__: 54787.5 23:18:25 <__ln__> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=1629 23:20:50 <peter1138> Recommended packages: linux-headers-686-pae linux-headers-amd64 23:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> that is not OpenTTD 23:20:52 <peter1138> lol 23:21:00 <peter1138> That'll do good on a Pi... 23:21:04 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:21:15 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 23:21:25 <__ln__> obviously OpenTTD did not exist when people were young 23:21:47 <Eddi|zuHause> but then it's not "the game" either :) 23:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause> so it was "another game" like peter1138 said 23:22:11 <__ln__> but it is "the game", openttd is only "a clone" 23:22:40 *** montalvo [~montalvo@host109-150-76-32.range109-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:24:21 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, I what? 23:24:40 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong p :p 23:25:01 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the colours! i told you people! ::p 23:25:15 <peter1138> You're all grey to me. I can read ;p 23:39:07 *** zydeco [~zydeco@19.68.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: Miscellaneous hardware exception error] 23:42:44 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 23:51:26 <NGC3982> Evening. :)