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00:00:03 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 00:07:07 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01d253.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 00:10:30 *** Supercheese_ [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 00:14:24 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.155.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:02 *** titanen [~titanen@l83-177-166-139.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i got a dependency problem... 00:20:45 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:10 <krinn> with drugs, cig, coffee...or code? 00:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> those are addiction problems :p 00:22:42 <Eddi|zuHause> (but the words are ambiguous in german) 00:22:47 <krinn> shit, also use in french as addiction 00:23:45 <krinn> for us addiciton is more something you like to do, while depencency is next step where you don't have the choice anymore 00:23:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i know the solution, but need an elegant way to write it out 00:25:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never heard "dependency" used in this context in english 00:26:07 <krinn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependence_(behavioral_medicine) looks it might be use 00:27:44 <krinn> but i'm more than unsure :) 00:28:02 <krinn> but in frenglish it's legit 00:29:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i hope that's nothing like denglisch :) 00:29:41 <krinn> it's worst are best frenglish speakers are cows 00:29:56 <krinn> as best... "are best" :D 00:36:33 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:38:31 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:17 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:47:23 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like it's working now 00:48:08 <krinn> looks like == ~ well, may work or not 00:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well the jenkins console output seems to crash occasionally 00:57:17 <Eddi|zuHause> 00:43:36 ERROR: Workspace reports paths.default as ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/cets 00:57:19 <Eddi|zuHause> 00:43:36 which looks different than ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/$JOB_NAME 00:57:20 <Eddi|zuHause> 00:43:36 so falling back to fresh clone rather than incremental update 00:57:26 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: this doesn't look right 01:01:52 <krinn> night 01:13:51 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:40 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 01:38:42 *** Supercheese_ [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 01:39:00 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 01:40:47 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-192-224.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6B29F.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:45 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 02:16:57 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:20 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 02:30:58 *** ST2 [~ST2@2.83.212.211] has joined #openttd 02:30:58 *** xT2 [~ST2@bl20-244-1.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:00 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.142] has joined #openttd 03:05:03 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:09:24 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:16:03 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.21.254] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is waiting your review at www.adiirc.com] 03:25:08 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30:45 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.36.142] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32:37 *** JGR_ [~JGR@host86-155-214-75.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:34:39 *** JGR [~JGR@host81-129-111-99.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC671C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD51AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:56:56 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:01:45 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 07:06:42 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 07:08:08 *** Pecio [~fgh@cjf180.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 07:09:12 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:38 *** Jomann [~abchirk@e178184076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:21:46 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@f052146129.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:29:00 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 07:29:02 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-192-224.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:30:28 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 07:34:28 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:58:57 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.25] has joined #openttd 08:07:38 <planetmaker> moin 08:07:46 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, it doesn't look right. But it is right :-) 08:32:12 <__ln__> http://www.thelocal.es/20131112/spains-solar-police-to-kick-in-your-door 08:41:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50:32 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:51:46 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:51:54 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 08:53:56 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:54:04 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 08:55:07 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:55:24 <Xaroth|Work> silly irssi :| 09:09:23 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 09:09:43 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:10:14 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:28 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 09:14:10 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:16:40 *** Japa [~Japa@112.79.37.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:32 *** titanen [~titanen@l83-177-166-139.cust.tele2.se] has joined #openttd 09:30:27 <Rubidium> Xaroth|Work: sounds more like something silly you did to it 09:36:19 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:36:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 09:40:16 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-233-180.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:54:28 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: irssi and putty refuse to work properly together 09:57:10 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:57:30 <Rubidium> Xaroth|Work: then why does it work for me? 09:58:26 <Xaroth|Work> Rubidium: it did work, yesterday, before I reinstalled both putty and updated my debian box (including irssi) 10:09:10 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 10:47:06 <Taede> nothing wrong with putty and irssi for me 10:47:44 <Taede> so what irssi version were you using before and after? 10:49:25 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:53:08 <Xaroth|Work> no clue, i hadn't updated that box in.. 2 years? 10:53:40 <Xaroth|Work> but I think it's partially due to putty, if not mainly 10:53:50 <Xaroth|Work> downgraded to the older version, and it looks a lot better now 10:54:02 <Taede> it is just looks? 10:54:02 <Xaroth|Work> bar some character issues, probably charset mismatch 10:54:12 <Xaroth|Work> certain colours just didn't show 10:54:21 <Taede> i got that when i saved a session after adding private key to it 10:54:21 <Xaroth|Work> they were in the buffer though, as I could copy/paste 10:54:25 <Taede> so i wouldnt have to login 10:54:25 <TinoDidriksen> How ancient a version of PuTTY were you using? 10:54:43 <Xaroth|Work> TinoDidriksen: I was using the latest version earlier 10:54:57 <Xaroth|Work> now i rolled back one version and it's mostly fnie. 10:55:11 <Xaroth|Work> one more attempt to fix this 10:55:12 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:56:43 *** Xaroth|Work [~XarothAtW@00017153.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:51 <Xaroth|Work> ooh, that looks better 11:05:37 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 11:16:21 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:23:06 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:20 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:58:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B29F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:04:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:32:06 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe299.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:35 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.153.186] has joined #openttd 12:52:37 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:57:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@polaris.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:46 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 13:08:53 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Quit: adf88] 13:11:20 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 13:21:51 *** perk111 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 13:28:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:00 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:13 *** Pecio [~fgh@cjf180.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 14:04:24 *** robotboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:02 <Bloody_Mikey> can you block players joins as named players 14:23:14 <Eddi|zuHause> some servers run a script that kicks "player"s or moves them to spectator 14:23:20 <planetmaker> ^ 14:23:56 <planetmaker> the admin script sees the player name and moves or kicks him/her 14:29:35 <Belugas> HELLO 14:30:00 <Belugas> mmh... sorry for yelling, coffee is strong today 14:30:30 * Taede poors Belugas some decaf 14:32:05 <peter1138> Are you crazy? 14:32:32 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 14:32:36 <planetmaker> that's rude, Taede ;-) 14:33:12 * planetmaker remembers a certain guy sleeping on the balcony despite all the people around ;-) 14:37:33 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has joined #openttd 14:44:15 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 14:52:15 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:53:53 *** perk111 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:23 <MNIM> Taede: if you want to live - never, EVER pour decaf unless it is specifically asked for, written in threefold. 14:56:55 <Belugas> DECAF???? YURK!!! 14:57:21 <Belugas> I'd rather yell than even consider taking that ... stuff... 14:58:01 <Belugas> yeah, planetmaker, i do too remember the blinding light of a flash used as a wake up call too ! 14:58:31 <MNIM> Belugas: as long as it ain't a flash/bang/ 14:59:28 <Belugas> if memory is correct, it was a canon 430ex :) 15:08:02 <Eddi|zuHause> the bang came later that night :p 15:16:38 <MNIM> http://www.thegloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/George-Takei-oh-my.jpg 15:17:15 <Eddi|zuHause> not that kind of bang :p 15:18:06 <MNIM> ah. in that case! 15:18:11 <MNIM> defend yourself! 15:18:12 <MNIM> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9tse3GRZ71qd6v0do1_500.gif 15:19:03 <MNIM> (funny thing - I actually watched that episode yesterday) 15:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i watched more than like 5 of these episodes ever... 15:19:44 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:04 <planetmaker> hehe, your memory serves you well, Belugas :) 15:22:50 <MNIM> Eddi|zuHause: well, neither have I so far 15:22:57 <MNIM> it's episode 4 or 5 XD 15:25:32 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:32:08 *** MINM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:36 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:44 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 15:37:04 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:05 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:34 *** brambles [lechuck@s0.barwen.ch] has joined #openttd 16:07:58 <krinn> aaah it's good to be back home! 16:24:25 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:29:46 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 16:35:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.242] has joined #openttd 16:51:50 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 17:07:04 *** zydeco [~zydeco@113.69.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 17:07:12 <zydeco> greetings, comrades 17:17:10 <zydeco> I found (and fixed) this bug in GS: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5801 17:23:56 <frosch123> thanks :) 17:25:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:28:01 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:45 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:40:59 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 17:43:05 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:43:57 <planetmaker> hey zydeco , regarding http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5741 - how is that supposed to work? 17:44:10 <Alberth> hi hi 17:44:23 <planetmaker> hallo Alberth :-) 17:44:26 <zydeco> it loads the file in openttd when you doubleclick it with finder 17:44:42 <zydeco> and allows registering the files so finder knows they're owned by openttd 17:45:11 <planetmaker> obviously just compiling openttd doesn't do the trick. pulling openttd.app from into Applications the dmg didn't do the trick neither for me. 17:45:21 <planetmaker> so I must miss some step 17:45:34 <zydeco> it doesn't? 17:45:42 <zydeco> with the plist patch too? 17:45:54 <planetmaker> not for me on 10.6. It keeps pointlessly open sav files with a text editor ;-) 17:46:05 <Alberth> :) 17:46:22 <zydeco> and if you right click and "open with", does it show openttd there? 17:46:27 <Alberth> start hex edit mode, and edit away :) 17:46:36 <planetmaker> well, sure I tested with your patch. Without I didn't exepct openttd to open when I double click sav files. No, that's not shown either in the 'open with' list 17:46:58 <planetmaker> grayed-out as one of the not suitable apps, but meh :-) 17:47:09 <zydeco> weird, I thought that plist thing would work in 10.6 too 17:47:19 <zydeco> and I don't have VMs with old versions here to try 17:47:59 <planetmaker> Alberth, yeah... maybe with uncompressed saves. But I'm so bad at manually unzipping files ;-) 17:48:25 <Alberth> it's a challenge! :p 17:49:00 <zydeco> and it may be lzma 17:49:04 <planetmaker> I actually expected it to work, zydeco. That's why I wonder whether I miss some obvious step 17:49:10 <planetmaker> it will be lzma, yes 17:50:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:51:04 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:55 <zydeco> you may have to open the app once for it to register 17:53:19 <zydeco> but I'll see if I can test it in 10.4 17:53:42 <zydeco> I have an old powermac under my desk 17:56:08 <planetmaker> ok :-) 17:56:22 <planetmaker> anyway, have a good evening all :-) 18:04:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r25995 trunk/src/script/api/script_town.cpp (2013-11-14 18:04:31 UTC) 18:04:38 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r25785) [FS#5801]: [NoGo] GS failed to rename towns. (Zydeco) 18:05:57 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:13:31 <Eddi|zuHause> cPickle.UnpicklingError: A load persistent id instruction was encountered, but no persistent_load function was specified. 18:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm what? 18:14:00 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, wrong file 18:14:17 <Alberth> yuck, pickle :( 18:15:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: was the easiest method i coulf find to store a dict 18:16:11 <Alberth> json? 18:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: didn't want to bother learning that 18:17:00 <Alberth> k 18:17:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: pickling is like 3 lines of code 18:17:36 <Alberth> json is too, afaik 18:18:02 <Alberth> althuogh I rarely have the need to store arbitrary internal data 18:18:06 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever, it works 18:18:38 <Eddi|zuHause> it's to separate generating the pixa templates from processing the actual image files 18:18:50 <Alberth> just be aware that it's unsafe and non-portable (even across different Python versions) 18:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so i prepare my sequences, pickle them, and then unpickle them later 18:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> portability shouldn't be needed in this case 18:44:59 *** zydeco [~zydeco@113.69.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r25996 /trunk/src/lang (norwegian_bokmal.txt romanian.txt) (2013-11-14 18:45:15 UTC) 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 3 changes by Trond 18:45:26 <DorpsGek> romanian - 86 changes by tonny 18:52:42 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:40 *** zydeco [~zydeco@95.18.68.255] has joined #openttd 18:56:50 <zydeco> d'oh 18:57:04 <zydeco> squirrel's string.tointeger() errors if it can't convert the string, what do? 18:57:40 <LordAro> try/catch? 18:57:41 <Eddi|zuHause> do error handling? 18:59:27 <zydeco> it still breaks the script if I put it in a try/catch 19:02:12 <LordAro> something's broken then 19:07:30 <Alberth> check the string beforehand? 19:08:10 <zydeco> yes, I'll have to do that 19:16:14 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 19:17:11 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:18:31 <Eddi|zuHause> make sure you catch the right kind of exception :p 19:20:47 *** zydeco_ [~zydeco@18.76.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 19:20:58 <zydeco_> oops 19:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause> that was the wrong kind of exception :p 19:23:30 <zydeco_> lol 19:23:49 *** zydeco is now known as Guest5623 19:23:49 *** zydeco_ is now known as zydeco 19:24:15 *** Guest5623 [~zydeco@95.18.68.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:48 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [] 19:31:16 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25997 trunk/src/network/network.cpp (2013-11-14 19:31:10 UTC) 19:31:17 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: make it slightly more clear what ports are coming from where in the debug output when listening 19:31:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that makes absolutely no sense 19:32:35 <LordAro> makes sense to me 19:35:34 <zydeco> it seems sq_seterrorhandler handles all errors, not just the ones that aren't catched 19:35:39 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2800/ <- I reckon you would know the order of ports by heart, right? 19:36:55 <LordAro> zydeco: sounds like a bug to me 19:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i mean: the commit message doesn't make any sense (if you don't already know what the commit does) 19:38:40 *** zydeco [~zydeco@18.76.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host168-170-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:39:46 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 19:40:09 <Wolf01> hello o/ 19:40:51 *** zydeco [~zydeco@132.74.18.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 19:40:54 <zydeco> this connection of mine is really bad 19:42:28 <zydeco> but this fixes it: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2801/ 19:42:35 *** DDR [~kvirc@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 19:42:36 *** DDR [~kvirc@184.71.170.250] has quit [] 19:42:45 *** DDR [~kvirc@184.71.170.250] has joined #openttd 19:42:59 <zydeco> it want call openttd's error handler if the exception is handled in the script 19:43:02 <zydeco> won't* 19:43:07 <LordAro> planetmaker, frosch123, Rubidium: ^ ? 19:43:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:24 <andythenorth> o/ 19:46:29 <Alberth> hi hi 19:49:38 <zydeco> see http://www.squirrel-lang.org/doc/squirrel2.html#sq_notifyallexceptions too 19:49:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 19:49:57 <andythenorth> why don't we have fog? 19:49:58 <andythenorth> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=458556&nseq=4 19:50:11 * andythenorth is actually 30% serious 19:51:24 <zydeco> hmm 30% 19:51:48 <NGC3982> I want fog 19:53:16 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:53:32 <DDR> andythenorth: I want fog now too. :< 19:53:46 <andythenorth> meanwhile, has anyone ever suggested voxels for the game? :D 19:54:13 <glx> I remember it has been suggested 19:54:36 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.21.254] has joined #openttd 19:54:49 <Rubidium> can't you make vauxhauls with a NewGRF? 19:54:49 <DDR> I tried my hand at that already, actually. Didn't work out so hot, really. http://ddr0.github.io/images/gallery/cube%20trains.jpeg 19:54:58 <DDR> Hah 19:55:30 <DDR> (I'd like to try it again with a mandelbulb as the seed terrain, sometime. :P ) 19:56:37 <frosch123> andythenorth: someone wanted to model using cubicles 19:57:50 <andythenorth> there is a cute ipad game with voxels 19:58:01 <andythenorth> so that's good enough reason to reengineer *everything* right/ 19:58:02 <andythenorth> ? 19:58:47 <Rubidium> zydeco: so all exceptions have always been fatal in the past? 19:59:34 <DDR> Uh, more like an excuse to make a sequel, at this point. 19:59:41 <zydeco> it would appear so, but I just tried it today 20:00:46 <Rubidium> in the regression test throwing something doesn't kill the whole script 20:01:20 <Rubidium> if I put it in a try/catch, it continues after showing the stack trace, with the rest of the code 20:02:07 <zydeco> hmm 20:04:24 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> meanwhile, has anyone ever suggested voxels for the game? :D <- no, only cubicles 20:04:32 <zydeco> oh right, it doesn't crash 20:04:46 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: too late :p 20:04:50 <zydeco> I was just confused by seeing the error in the command line 20:05:31 <zydeco> but should it really show the stack trace if the exception is being handled by the script? 20:06:18 <frosch123> exceptions are still exceptions 20:06:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "fog of war": the game places your HQ randomly at start, you have a visual range of 3, and you can only build within the visual range. visual range can only be extended by vehicles. 20:06:38 <frosch123> they are not supposed to occur normally, so they are still interesting for development 20:07:03 <frosch123> or does it popup the ai debug window in game? 20:07:12 <zydeco> no, it doesn't pop up 20:07:22 <zydeco> but it shows the stack trace in it 20:07:23 <frosch123> so, only developers will see it 20:08:16 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but what if the exceptions just clutter the view and prevent me from seeing what i want to see? 20:08:24 <LordAro> frosch123: that's what you think - iirc choochoo uses them all over the place 20:08:38 <LordAro> imo, not-fatal exceptions shouldn't be shown in the command line 20:08:51 <LordAro> (which they are, last time i looked) 20:08:56 <frosch123> well, try to make it a checkbox in the ai debug window then :p 20:09:02 <LordAro> D: 20:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause> as a developer, i'm not particularly interested in exceptions that are properly handled 20:09:07 <frosch123> "halt on exception" or so 20:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause> or if i am, i put debug output in the exception handler 20:09:55 <frosch123> that's too late 20:10:06 <frosch123> then you only see that an exception occured 20:10:07 <frosch123> not where 20:10:10 <zydeco> an option for "show all exceptions" 20:10:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know squirrel, but in python you can get the trace from the exception object 20:11:17 <frosch123> i don't know squirrel either 20:11:21 <frosch123> ask zuu :) 20:11:29 <zydeco> I think squirrel exceptions are just any value 20:12:08 <zydeco> so probably not 20:13:55 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 20:15:19 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:19 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:33:48 <andythenorth> voxels tend to be pretty 20:35:15 <andythenorth> http://hexahedra.blogspot.co.uk/2010_12_01_archive.html 20:35:19 <Eddi|zuHause> voxels are useless unless you want a 3D freely zoomable environment 20:35:49 <andythenorth> I didn't say they were useful 20:36:07 <andythenorth> but they seem to go hand in hand with a nice aesthetic 20:36:25 <andythenorth> polygons don't 20:36:50 <Eddi|zuHause> we have pixels. way better 20:37:23 * andythenorth considers a voxel based editor which rasterises to pixels :P 20:37:51 <Eddi|zuHause> cubicle constructor!! 20:37:55 <andythenorth> he :D 20:38:41 <zydeco> regarding http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5795, I think the logic behind that is wrong 20:39:11 *** Zuu [~Zuu@m-office.sdrf.se] has joined #openttd 20:39:31 <zydeco> it checks if (!EditBoxInGlobalFocus() || (!IsInsideMM(pressed_key, 'A', 'Z' + 1) && !IsInsideMM(pressed_key, '0', '9' + 1))) 20:39:38 <andythenorth> oh 20:39:45 <andythenorth> that's why I see that bug sometimes :o 20:39:53 <andythenorth> I thought I was just being an idiot with the chat 20:40:40 <zydeco> I think it should be if (!EditBoxInGlobalFocus() || IsInsideMM(pressed_key, WKC_F1, WKC_F12+1)) 20:40:46 <zydeco> and include other keys that don't produce input 20:41:37 <Zuu> Do we have any interactive console commands? Eg. a command that prompts for input? 20:41:41 <zydeco> or if (!EditBoxInGlobalFocus() || (!IsInsideMM(pressed_key | ~(WKC_SHIFT | WKC_ALT), 'A', 'Z' + 1) && !IsInsideMM(pressed_key | ~(WKC_SHIFT | WKC_ALT), '0', '9' + 1))) 20:41:50 <Eddi|zuHause> zydeco: but why would 'T' not be in that range? 20:42:16 <zydeco> because it's t | WKC_SHIFT 20:42:23 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:42:36 <DanMacK> Hey all 20:42:53 <Alberth> Zuu: you'd give it as a parameter to the command, I think 20:42:59 <Eddi|zuHause> silly stuff 20:43:39 <Rubidium> Zuu: nope 20:45:16 <Supercheese> Hmm, is it possible to have different loading and unloading sprites? 20:45:23 <Supercheese> I do not immediately see any support for that 20:45:29 <DanMacK> how so? 20:45:47 <Supercheese> well, spritegroup specifies only loading, not unloading 20:45:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: not directly, by my search 10 minutes ago. but it could be implemented 20:46:25 <Supercheese> I also don't see any variables that could be queried to switch spritegroups adequately 20:46:35 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: that "loading" means "waiting in a station either loading or unloading" 20:46:38 <Supercheese> percent loading alone is insufficient to determine loading or unloading 20:46:45 <Supercheese> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, that's what I gathered 20:47:00 <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: VF_CARGO_UNLOADING 20:47:17 <Zuu> Alberth: yep although it would be interesting for a text based list of banans content to allow selecting what content to download by giving its number rather than its full uniqueid. 20:47:32 <Eddi|zuHause> so you need to make a newgrf variable that exposes this vehicle flag 20:47:57 <Supercheese> indeed 20:47:58 <frosch123> Zuu: loading savegames works like hat 20:48:07 <frosch123> "ls" gives you a numbered list 20:48:19 <frosch123> and you can load with name or index 20:48:38 <Alberth> hopefully the name is never a number :p 20:48:52 <zydeco> oh I meant & ~ instead of | ~ 20:48:55 <Rubidium> Zuu: what do you mean by number? The database's unique ID? 20:48:56 <Zuu> What if the file system change after a ls? 20:49:18 <frosch123> no idea, maybe it fails :p 20:49:35 <frosch123> maybe ottd reads the dir only once, and stores it 20:49:42 <Zuu> Zuu: I mean by giving each listed content a number in a bananas "ls" command and then allow you to give those numbers to a bananas apt-get command. 20:49:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think the openttd commands are guarded for such concurrency 20:50:21 <frosch123> anyway, we need the get content for savegame command :p 20:50:39 <Rubidium> Zuu: bananas ls ~= content state. content select works with the numbers before the content in the list 20:51:00 <Alberth> just implement "download missing content" ? 20:51:01 <Rubidium> (those are not line numbers, but database unique IDs) 20:51:14 <frosch123> Alberth: yes, but as console command 20:51:29 <Zuu> Alberth: How does "download missing content" fix the problem of install "random GS" on my nightly server including all dependencies? 20:51:32 <frosch123> and also in a way, so it works for servers (i.e. before loading the game itself) 20:52:11 <Alberth> Zuu: probably not, but perhaps you want to express in the GS what you need? 20:52:50 <Alberth> manually figuring it out seems a bit meh 20:53:09 <frosch123> does the console "content select" command not select dependencies? 20:53:43 <Zuu> hmm, actually the 'content' command seems to do more than I was aware of. 20:56:06 <Zuu> hmm, we actually got "content select all" to select all content? 20:56:24 <frosch123> psst :p 20:57:31 <Zuu> The only thing I miss really is "content state | grep NoCarGoal" to not have to scroll through the whole list to find a specific content that I know the name of. 20:58:39 <Eddi|zuHause> "content find <name>"? 20:58:52 <Zuu> yeah something like that 20:59:16 <Zuu> A simple %<name>% lookup would do 20:59:37 <frosch123> we have a StringFilter class 20:59:46 <frosch123> you could feed name, tags and description to it 21:00:03 <frosch123> to allow searching in any of those 21:00:28 <frosch123> but, ok, for console you likely only want the name 21:04:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i see no reason to not search tags as well. 21:05:29 <frosch123> well, i would expect it to only seach stuff which is displayed in the console list 21:05:33 <frosch123> else it is confusing 21:06:30 <Eddi|zuHause> but it might be equally confusing that the same search on client and server gives different results 21:07:17 <Zuu> Should there be a separate 'find' command, possible a bit more discoverable, or just an optional filter parameter to the 'state' command? 21:07:24 <zydeco> can I start a gamescript on a server that's already running? 21:08:37 <frosch123> you can start gs only with a new game 21:12:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:13:09 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-192-224.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:16:09 <zydeco> that makes sense, but is also a shame 21:17:53 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:19:52 <frosch123> well, you can save the game, and load it as scenario 21:20:16 <frosch123> though i am not sure whether you can easily add a gs to a scenario 21:20:48 <Zuu> Or "content state [--find <name>|--selected]" to also offer a view over selected content? 21:21:40 <frosch123> does "content state" already have a parameter? 21:21:44 <Zuu> nope 21:21:59 <frosch123> otherwise it could work like the "list_settings" command, where you can just append a searchterm 21:22:13 <frosch123> or was it the "setting" command? 21:22:47 <Taede> list_cmds ? 21:23:00 <Zuu> I could make it "content state [<search term>]". 21:23:44 <Zuu> And perhaps make the "content select" command give feedback on select or failure to select. 21:23:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6D379.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:24:08 <Zuu> or offer a list of selected content (other than reading the full output of "content state") 21:24:35 <Taede> make selected a keyword, so that content state selected shows only state of selected items? 21:25:24 <Zuu> Though, I get 4 content items auto-selected when i start OpenTTD because some issue with uniqueid or so. So the list of selected items is not the same as the sum of those I have selected manually. 21:25:36 <frosch123> "content select" would make sense to dispaly the currently selected stuff 21:25:42 <frosch123> would be consistent with "setting" 21:25:48 <Zuu> Yep 21:25:48 <frosch123> which displays the current value unless you set it 21:30:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B29F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:28 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-113-111-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:45:53 <DanMacK> We need articulated ships 21:46:07 <peter1138> V453000 has them 21:47:00 <DanMacK> really? 21:47:50 <Eddi|zuHause> not really 21:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause> but really insane 21:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause> almost NUTS 21:48:41 <Supercheese> WETrails 21:50:48 <DanMacK> ahhh 21:56:06 <Zuu> http://devs.openttd.org/~zuu/content.patch <-- adds "state [filter]" and "select" without parameter => list selected 21:57:41 <Zuu> hmm, it probably breaks "state" w/o param 21:57:53 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@85.186.160.35] has quit [] 22:01:24 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.21.254] has quit [Quit: Looking for an free alternative to mIRC? Check AdiIRC! http://www.adiirc.com] 22:01:48 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-192-224.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:02:02 <Zuu> now hopefully fixed 22:02:27 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.21.254] has joined #openttd 22:03:33 <frosch123> if (argc > 2 && strcasestr((*iter)->name, argv[2]) == 0) continue; <- s/0/NULL/ 22:06:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 22:10:02 <zydeco> btw I attached the patch to http://bugs.openttd.org/task/5795 in case someone wants to look at it 22:11:53 <Zuu> frosch123: thanks. The patch is updated (and I slightly changed the documentation of the select command so that it flows a bit better between the three ways to use it) 22:12:58 <frosch123> i think the 'or' in front of 'alll' should remain in the select-docu 22:13:38 <frosch123> maybe the list thingie could be a separate sentence, instead of complicated comma-stuff 22:13:59 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r25998 trunk/known-bugs.txt (2013-11-14 22:16:43 UTC) 22:16:49 <DorpsGek> -Document [FS#5661]: why catchment area's are (slightly) inconsistent 22:17:36 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-182-192-224.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:19:59 <Supercheese> *twitch* 22:20:02 <Supercheese> area's 22:20:51 <Rubidium> guess I'm not awake anymore 22:30:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i've no good inspiration how to make a "crude template" for tank wagons 22:31:23 <frosch123> either a cylinder 22:31:32 <frosch123> or 2 to 3 spheres 22:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i currently have two shapes, a closed box and an open box 22:31:56 <Rubidium> just take a normal tank wagon, and draw some dark brown to black leaks on it? 22:34:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so either i make it a box 22:34:23 <Eddi|zuHause> or i need to develop a shape for round things 22:35:23 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise i have almost all things covered soon 22:35:37 <Zuu> frosch123: Ok. I've reverted the 'or' and moved the new information into a new sentence. 22:36:02 <Eddi|zuHause> "flat" wagons, DB early electrics and DR engines missing 22:36:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and a few sporadic oddities inbetween 22:36:21 <Eddi|zuHause> but i might leave those out 22:36:50 <frosch123> Zuu: looks fine 22:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and then i have to review the stuff oberhÌmer messed up 22:37:31 <Eddi|zuHause> vehicle names, vehicle availabilites, reinstate swiss/austrian vehicles 22:38:19 <Eddi|zuHause> and if i didn't get distracted by then, maybe i figure out loading stages for open wagons 22:38:45 *** Zuu [~Zuu@m-office.sdrf.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40:17 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has joined #openttd 22:48:08 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r25999 trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp (2013-11-14 22:48:03 UTC) 22:48:09 <DorpsGek> -Add: When calling the 'content select' console command without args, display all selected content 22:48:18 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:48:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:50:22 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r26000 trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp (2013-11-14 22:50:16 UTC) 22:50:23 <DorpsGek> -Add: Optional filter parameter to the 'content state' console command, to limit the content list to only content where the name match the filter 22:55:05 <michi_cc> zydeco: I think your patch is still not quite right as it missing non-latin characters. My take would be http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/patches/part_of_fs5795.patch 22:58:10 <zydeco> won't that prevent from using arrows in the fields? 22:59:20 <zydeco> but yes, something that checks for non-input-producing keys rather than 0-9A-Z would be better 22:59:35 <michi_cc> No, everything <= WKC_TAB is always passed to HandleKeypress and this range includes the arrow keys. 22:59:52 <zydeco> oh I was reading that wrong 23:00:45 <michi_cc> For the comparison all special modifiers are masked out as we also have stuff like "next word" etc (which uses Ctrl afair). 23:02:09 <zydeco> if I knew svn better, I wouldn't be doing svn diff | patch -R -p0 23:03:55 <michi_cc> Ah well, yell at me tomorrow if I've broken it even more ;) 23:03:57 <frosch123> sounds like svn revert -R . 23:04:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r26001 /trunk/src (console_gui.cpp video/cocoa/cocoa_v.mm) (2013-11-14 23:03:54 UTC) 23:04:04 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5795a] (r25686): [OSX] Clear any pending marked characters from an edit box losing focus. 23:04:10 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r26002 trunk/src/video/cocoa/event.mm (2013-11-14 23:03:59 UTC) 23:04:11 <DorpsGek> -Fix: [OSX] If the console hotkey is a dead key, require two presses to toggle the console, allowing input of accented characters. 23:04:14 <DorpsGek> Commit by michi_cc :: r26003 trunk/src/video/cocoa/event.mm (2013-11-14 23:04:04 UTC) 23:04:15 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5795b] (r25743): [OSX] Some hotkeys were still triggered during text input. 23:04:39 <LordAro> congrats on getting r26k, Zuu :) 23:05:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-96-26.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:06:33 <zydeco> yes, it seems to work correctly 23:06:38 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 23:07:20 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:07:34 *** Zuu [~Zuu@gateway.sdr.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, we should have a r26k party 23:08:44 <LordAro> :D 23:09:23 <frosch123> maybe at terkhens place. otherwise: no thanks :p 23:10:54 <frosch123> no, even madrid only has 13°C 23:11:09 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:13 <Supercheese> better than 13°F ;) 23:11:39 <frosch123> anything is better than °F 23:12:09 <__ln__> wasn't there a plan to have a party in january 23:12:37 <__ln__> perhaps in a canadian igloo 23:13:05 <Supercheese> °R is better? :P 23:13:24 <frosch123> isn't it only R? without ° ? 23:13:58 <frosch123> anyway, "0°F = coldest temperature some random guy in 18xx could create" is patented douchebagginess 23:14:07 <Supercheese> then there's °Ré 23:14:27 <LordAro> frosch123: wasn't it related to wax? 23:14:35 <__ln__> or coldest temperature in some random guy's home town during some particular winter 23:15:07 <frosch123> you need two fixed points for an affine linear scale 23:15:20 <frosch123> °F is the only one which tries with a single meaningful point (100°F) 23:15:39 <Supercheese> I wish we could be rid of °F 23:15:49 <Supercheese> I don't see it happening any time soon, sadly 23:15:59 <LordAro> bad americans 23:17:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see the problem :) 23:17:47 <__ln__> °F was quite painful while visiting the US... always needed to start a conversion app just to interpret whether 120°F is hot or not. 23:17:50 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody i know used °F 23:17:56 <frosch123> oh, it was actualy 17xx 23:18:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BBE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:32 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@cs181208223.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 23:19:03 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: that sounds awfully hot 23:19:13 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:19:27 <alluke> what does 23:20:11 <Supercheese> If it's 120°F outside, you can probably cook eggs on the sidewalks 23:20:22 <Supercheese> there'd be enough solar flux 23:22:03 <frosch123> hmm, the wiki page on fahrenheit is even more weird than what i remembered 23:22:16 <__ln__> fair enough, something like 109°F was probably the maximum that i encountered outside. 23:23:19 <alluke> 1°c here 23:23:27 <alluke> too cold 23:23:39 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:40 <LordAro> just generally cold here 23:23:51 <Supercheese> again, better than 1°F :P 23:24:26 <alluke> aint that about -14 c 23:24:28 <alluke> 17* 23:24:40 <alluke> freezing 23:24:44 * Supercheese wonders if DorpsGek has @convert 23:24:54 <alluke> not really uncommon temperature during winter 23:25:05 <Supercheese> @convert 1 C to F 23:25:05 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 33.8 23:25:08 <Supercheese> ho ho 23:25:10 <__ln__> it was incredibly hot and exhausting at the hoover dam. 23:25:16 <LordAro> nice :) 23:25:25 <Supercheese> @convert 120 F to C 23:25:25 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 48.8888888889 23:26:07 <alluke> is it possible to be outside at 120 f 23:26:09 <LordAro> @convert -40 F to C 23:26:09 <DorpsGek> LordAro: -40.0 23:26:12 <LordAro> :D 23:26:16 <Supercheese> :) 23:26:41 <LordAro> it's "let's play with DorpsGek" evening 23:27:07 <DorpsGek> you filthy swine! 23:27:15 <LordAro> :D 23:27:26 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:27:50 <__ln__> wasn't exactly cold in death valley either. 23:28:07 <alluke> its called death valley for a reason 23:28:28 <LordAro> @convert 26 mm to chains 23:28:28 <DorpsGek> LordAro: 0.00129245207985 23:28:31 <LordAro> ha 23:28:43 <planetmaker> omg! :D 23:28:52 <planetmaker> @convert 1 km to furlong 23:28:52 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4.9709695379 23:28:53 <frosch123> hmm, what's "chains"? 23:28:54 <Supercheese> @convert 66 feet to chains 23:28:54 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 1 23:28:59 <planetmaker> I always wondered :D 23:29:00 <LordAro> ^ :p 23:29:14 * LordAro looks up more strange units 23:29:16 <frosch123> @convert 1 chains to m 23:29:16 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 20.1168 23:29:19 <Supercheese> @convert 100 yards to football fields 23:29:19 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 1 23:29:22 <Supercheese> YES. 23:29:24 <LordAro> :O 23:29:25 <__ln__> @convert [seen Bjarni] to F 23:29:25 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: Bjarniwaslastseenin#openttd2years,5weeks,4days,23hours,10minutes,and19secondsago:<Bjarni>heh is not a valid unit. 23:29:27 <planetmaker> :D 23:29:35 <LordAro> :D 23:29:37 <alluke> convert 13 apples to oranges 23:29:52 <Supercheese> @convert 1 football field to city buses 23:29:52 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: football is not a valid unit. 23:29:58 <Supercheese> err 23:30:04 <Supercheese> @convert 1 football fields to city buses 23:30:04 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: football is not a valid unit. 23:30:07 <Supercheese> darn 23:30:15 <LordAro> :( 23:30:18 <LordAro> :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_units_of_measurement 23:30:32 <planetmaker> @convert 1 bushel in m^3 23:30:32 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: inm is not a valid unit. 23:30:37 <planetmaker> @convert 1 bushel to m^3 23:30:37 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 0.0352390701669 23:30:59 <Supercheese> @convert 1 light year to parsecs 23:31:00 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: light is not a valid unit. 23:31:04 <LordAro> @convert 42 seconds to nanocenturies 23:31:04 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Error: nanocenturies is not a valid unit. 23:31:04 <planetmaker> @convert one long to to metric ton 23:31:05 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: one is not a valid unit. 23:31:08 <Supercheese> @convert 1 LY to parsecs 23:31:08 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: LY is not a valid unit. 23:31:12 <Supercheese> grrr 23:31:25 <planetmaker> @convert 1 long ton to metric ton 23:31:25 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: long is not a valid unit. 23:31:27 <__ln__> football field is an interesting unit... used a lot especially in english texts, yet i have no clue how long is a football field or is it even of some standard size. 23:31:28 * LordAro kicks DorpsGek 23:31:36 <Supercheese> __ln__: look above 23:31:48 <Supercheese> @convert 100 yards to football fields 23:31:48 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 1 23:31:55 <planetmaker> @convert 1 angstrom in parsec 23:31:55 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: inparsec is not a valid unit. 23:31:59 <planetmaker> @convert 1 angstrom to parsec 23:31:59 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 0 23:32:03 <planetmaker> ok :D 23:32:06 <LordAro> :) 23:32:09 <Supercheese> oh, it does have parsec 23:32:16 <Supercheese> @convert 1 parsec to AU 23:32:16 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: AU is not a valid unit. 23:32:27 <LordAro> @convert 1 parsec to au 23:32:27 <DorpsGek> LordAro: 206264.806247 23:32:29 <LordAro> :p 23:32:33 <Supercheese> d'oh 23:32:40 <LordAro> case sensitive, it seems] 23:32:54 <planetmaker> strange, I'd always spell it AU, too 23:32:56 <planetmaker> never au 23:32:57 <Supercheese> @convert 1 ly to parsec 23:32:57 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: ly is not a valid unit. 23:33:03 <Supercheese> -_- 23:33:15 <planetmaker> @convert 1 au to light years 23:33:15 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 1.58125074089e-05 23:33:18 <planetmaker> :-) 23:33:20 <LordAro> i assume DorpsGek's code is not available anywhere? 23:33:29 <planetmaker> it is open source. supybot 23:33:30 <__ln__> Supercheese: so if it's 120 yards, why don't people just say 120 yards instead of using some unrelated absurd quasi-unit? 23:33:40 <Supercheese> __ln__: beats me 23:33:49 <Supercheese> it's incredibly silly 23:33:57 <Supercheese> (and it's 100 yards) 23:34:04 <frosch123> __ln__: because 120 is a too complex number for a football guy 23:34:08 <planetmaker> @convert 1 earth mass to solar masses 23:34:08 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: earth is not a valid unit. 23:34:12 <planetmaker> darn :) 23:34:22 <Supercheese> @convert 1 kW to tons 23:34:23 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: unit categories did not match 23:34:27 <Supercheese> lies and slander 23:34:32 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 23:34:38 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_of_refrigeration 23:34:52 <Supercheese> @convert 1 ton to Btu/hr 23:34:52 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: unit categories did not match 23:34:54 <planetmaker> @ convert 1 kW to BTU 23:34:54 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: BTU is not a valid unit. 23:34:57 <planetmaker> @ convert 1 kW to btu 23:34:58 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: btu is not a valid unit. 23:35:00 <planetmaker> meh 23:35:03 <Supercheese> @convert 1 kW to btu/hr 23:35:03 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: btu is not a valid unit. 23:35:09 <planetmaker> @ convert 1 kW to british thermal units 23:35:09 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: britishthermalunits is not a valid unit. 23:35:27 <frosch123> @convert 1kWh to MeV 23:35:27 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: 1kWh is not a valid unit. 23:35:32 <frosch123> @convert 1 kWh to MeV 23:35:32 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: MeV is not a valid unit. 23:35:44 <planetmaker> @ convert 1 W to eV 23:35:44 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unit categories did not match 23:35:48 <planetmaker> @ convert 1 J to eV 23:35:49 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 6241509744511524864 23:35:52 <planetmaker> of course :-) 23:35:59 <LordAro> @random 23:36:03 <LordAro> aw 23:36:22 <Kjetil> @convert 1 pound to pascal 23:36:22 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: unit categories did not match 23:36:23 <planetmaker> @convert 1 m^2 to barn 23:36:24 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unit categories did not match 23:36:30 <planetmaker> not? 23:36:35 <Supercheese> wait what 23:36:37 <Supercheese> what is a barn 23:36:38 <Kjetil> indeed 23:36:40 <Supercheese> unit 23:36:43 <Kjetil> @convert 1 footpound to pascal 23:36:43 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: footpound is not a valid unit. 23:36:53 <LordAro> @convert 1 m^3 to barn 23:36:54 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Error: unit categories did not match 23:36:56 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_unit 23:36:58 <Supercheese> huh 23:36:59 <__ln__> @convert 134 oz to gallon 23:36:59 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: unit categories did not match 23:37:16 <Supercheese> @convert 134 floz to gallons 23:37:16 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 1.046875 23:37:17 <planetmaker> honestly, called barn for its enormous size :D 23:37:27 <Kjetil> @convert 1 oxenhead to gallons 23:37:27 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: oxenhead is not a valid unit. 23:37:32 <Supercheese> 100 square femtometers, eh? 23:38:27 <Supercheese> @convert 1 kg to slug 23:38:27 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 0.0685217658568 23:38:35 <Kjetil> @convert 1 hogshead to gallons 23:38:35 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: hogshead is not a valid unit. 23:38:50 <frosch123> @convert 1 hogsheads to gallons 23:38:50 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: hogsheads is not a valid unit. 23:39:14 <Supercheese> @convert 1 firkin to gallon 23:39:14 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: firkin is not a valid unit. 23:39:29 <planetmaker> @convert 1 Newton to pond 23:39:29 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: Newton is not a valid unit. 23:39:36 <planetmaker> @convert 1 N to pond 23:39:36 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: pond is not a valid unit. 23:39:37 <Kjetil> what ?! 23:39:40 <planetmaker> @convert 1 N to pd 23:39:40 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: pd is not a valid unit. 23:39:52 <Supercheese> @convert 1 N to lbf 23:39:52 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 0.2248089431 23:40:04 <Supercheese> @convert 1 kg to lbm 23:40:04 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 2.20462262185 23:40:14 <Supercheese> Two different pounds :P 23:40:26 <Kjetil> @convert 1 kf to nm 23:40:26 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: kf is not a valid unit. 23:40:27 <__ln__> @convert 1 euro to pesetas 23:40:28 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: euro is not a valid unit. 23:40:31 <LordAro> found the list: https://github.com/jamessan/Supybot/blob/master/plugins/Math/local/convertcore.py 23:40:39 <LordAro> sorry for ruining the fun ;p 23:40:40 <Supercheese> quick, exploit 23:41:01 <Supercheese> @convert 1 lid to kg 23:41:01 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 0.028349523125 23:41:13 <planetmaker> @convert 1 N to kilopond 23:41:13 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: kilopond is not a valid unit. 23:41:18 <Supercheese> @convert 20 mm to caliber 23:41:18 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 78.7401574803 23:41:18 <frosch123> LordAro: drug slang? 23:41:20 <Kjetil> no guessing on SI-prefixes ? What a pitty 23:41:30 <LordAro> @convert 7 shoe size mens to show size womens 23:41:30 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Error: shoe is not a valid unit. 23:41:33 <LordAro> :( 23:41:38 <LordAro> frosch123: ? 23:41:54 <__ln__> @convert men to women 23:41:54 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: men is not a valid unit. 23:42:01 <planetmaker> @convert 1 stone to amu 23:42:01 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 3824236716237265854667948032 23:42:28 <planetmaker> many atoms in a stone :D 23:43:02 <planetmaker> @convert 1 jansky to J 23:43:02 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: jansky is not a valid unit. 23:43:08 <planetmaker> @convert 1 jy to J 23:43:08 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: jy is not a valid unit. 23:43:24 <alluke> idiot radio host played a christmas song 23:43:27 <Supercheese> @convert 1 pint to imp pt 23:43:27 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: imppt is not a valid unit. 23:43:30 <Kjetil> @convert 12 parsec to hours 23:43:30 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: unit categories did not match 23:43:37 <__ln__> @convert dozen to pi 23:43:37 <DorpsGek> __ln__: 3.81971863421 23:43:44 <Supercheese> @convert 1 pint to hogsheadbeer 23:43:44 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: hogsheadbeer is not a valid unit. 23:43:49 <Kjetil> damn you mr. solo 23:43:49 <Supercheese> @convert 1 pint to hogshead beer 23:43:49 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: hogsheadbeer is not a valid unit. 23:44:16 <planetmaker> @convert 1 lumen to lux 23:44:16 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unit categories did not match 23:44:20 <planetmaker> :-) 23:44:21 <Supercheese> @convert 30 mpsi to gpa 23:44:21 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: mpsi is not a valid unit. 23:44:22 <Kjetil> @convert league to screw size 23:44:23 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: 14621533.8462 23:44:54 <LordAro> :D 23:45:04 <alluke> is dorpsgek a bot 23:45:20 <frosch123> no, just a weirdo 23:45:26 <Supercheese> @convert mpg to 1/ft 23:45:26 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: unit categories did not match 23:45:35 <Supercheese> @convert mpg to 1/ft^2 23:45:36 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 39497.1428571 23:45:38 <Supercheese> there we go 23:45:39 <Kjetil> He is just very good at the googles 23:45:49 <alluke> @convert 6969696969 c to f 23:45:49 <DorpsGek> alluke: Error: c is not a valid unit. 23:45:58 <alluke> bullshit 23:45:58 <alluke> it is 23:46:11 <DorpsGek> alluke: what? 23:46:14 <Kjetil> real people use kelvin 23:46:33 <DorpsGek> do they? 23:46:38 <Kjetil> no :( 23:46:41 <Kjetil> I wish 23:46:57 <Supercheese> fake people use kelvin 23:47:32 <Kjetil> "It's 270 degrees outside to day. Better put a coat on" 23:47:50 <planetmaker> Kelvin is not degrees ;-) 23:48:01 <planetmaker> It's without "°" 23:48:07 <LordAro> wait, that's not the list of units, that's just a commented out list 23:48:27 <LordAro> list seems to actually be provided in "units.dat" which isn't in the repo, i think 23:48:27 <Kjetil> planetmaker: then it is no fun 23:49:05 <planetmaker> and otherwise wrong ;-) 23:49:09 <frosch123> LordAro: the list is assigned to the variable "unitdata" 23:49:10 <alluke> @convert x m to ft 23:49:10 <DorpsGek> alluke: Error: x is not a valid unit. 23:49:13 <Supercheese> @convert 1 gallon to butts 23:49:13 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: butts is not a valid unit. 23:49:13 <Kjetil> @convert 1 bbl to pint 23:49:14 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: 336 23:49:21 <Kjetil> That's a lot of pints 23:49:25 <alluke> @convert x m to 10 ft 23:49:25 <DorpsGek> alluke: Error: x is not a valid unit. 23:49:26 <Supercheese> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_brewery_cask_units says so 23:49:46 <alluke> it cant do equations 23:49:57 <LordAro> frosch123: hmm, but it's commented out, as far as i can see 23:50:05 <frosch123> no, it's not commented out 23:50:13 <frosch123> it is a multiline string constant 23:50:23 <LordAro> oooh 23:50:28 <planetmaker> @convert 1 candela to J/sr 23:50:28 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unit categories did not match 23:50:33 <frosch123> f = StringIO.StringIO(unitData) <- that reads the string into a stream 23:50:34 <planetmaker> @convert 1 candela to J/sr^2 23:50:34 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: unit categories did not match 23:50:41 <Kjetil> @convert 1m / 1s to kph 23:50:41 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: 1m is not a valid unit. 23:50:47 <LordAro> frosch123: yus, i see it now 23:51:02 <frosch123> LordAro: you can use multiline string constants like comments though 23:51:03 <planetmaker> @convert 1 m/s to km/h 23:51:03 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: h is not a valid unit. 23:51:10 <frosch123> assigning a string to nothing is a nop operation 23:51:10 <Supercheese> @convert 1 $ to ⬠23:51:11 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: $ is not a valid unit. 23:51:15 <Supercheese> nuts 23:51:17 <LordAro> i got confused between multiline strings and comments 23:51:19 <LordAro> yes, that 23:51:24 <__ln__> @convert 1 cochrane to kwh 23:51:24 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: cochrane is not a valid unit. 23:51:36 <LordAro> lies 23:51:42 <Kjetil> indeed 23:51:51 <Supercheese> @convert warp 7 to mph 23:51:51 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: warp is not a valid unit. 23:52:02 <Supercheese> @convert 7 warp to mph 23:52:02 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: warp is not a valid unit. 23:52:05 <Supercheese> blast 23:52:15 <LordAro> @convert 1 centistokes to poise 23:52:15 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Error: unit categories did not match 23:52:17 <LordAro> :( 23:52:25 <planetmaker> @convert 1 mach to m/s 23:52:25 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 331.46 23:53:00 <alluke> @convert 1 mach to km/h 23:53:00 <DorpsGek> alluke: Error: h is not a valid unit. 23:53:07 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:53:11 <Kjetil> @convert 1 shake to jiffy 23:53:11 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: shake is not a valid unit. 23:53:14 <alluke> i didnt say km/h 23:53:42 <planetmaker> @convert 1 m/s to km/hour 23:53:42 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 3.6 23:53:49 <alluke> lord 23:54:17 <planetmaker> LordAro, iirc it's dynamic and static, thus doesn't match 23:54:32 <Kjetil> @convert 1 foe to joules 23:54:32 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: foe is not a valid unit. 23:54:50 <planetmaker> @convert 1 century to s 23:54:50 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 3155692597.47 23:55:06 <planetmaker> @convert 1 year to s 23:55:07 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 31556925.9747 23:55:19 <planetmaker> @calc pi * 10^7 23:55:19 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 23:55:26 <planetmaker> :-( 23:55:44 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc pi*10**7 23:55:44 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 31415926.5359 23:55:52 <__ln__> @calc [convert 1 to pi] * 10^7 23:55:52 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: to is not a valid unit. 23:56:20 <__ln__> @calc [convert pi to pi] * 10^7 23:56:20 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 23:56:49 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:29 <Eddi|zuHause> once upon a time there was a bot which output weird numbers when entering stuff like 10^7, until people realized ^ didn't mean "power" but "bitwise xor" 23:57:44 <Kjetil> @calc 1++ 23:57:44 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1) 23:57:48 <Supercheese> @calc 10^^7 23:57:48 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) 23:58:32 <Kjetil> @calc 3 & 1 23:58:32 <DorpsGek> Kjetil: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 23:58:44 <Supercheese> @calc 1 || 1 23:58:44 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) 23:59:29 <Supercheese> @convert 30 degrees to gradians 23:59:29 <DorpsGek> Supercheese: 33.3333333333