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00:19:41 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 00:24:22 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:26:41 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:24 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:14 *** Killer11 [Killer11@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 00:29:21 <Killer11> Good evening 00:29:32 <Killer11> I have succeeded in my NML quest 00:29:48 <Killer11> I've got my articulated engines up and running and it is simply delightful 00:30:36 <Killer11> NML is just so easy to learn, so much more readable than nfo hex, Maybe this summer i' 00:30:44 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 00:30:57 <Killer11> ll go on and experiment with 32 bit graphics 00:32:02 <Killer11> for now the headache is actually sorting out the actual specific differences between the 2M62's that Lithuanian Railways are running 00:32:38 <Killer11> between UM, M and K other than those things have caterpillar/some new russian engines in them i have 0 clue of their actual stats 00:34:22 <Killer11> i did learn that a thing called M62 KEOS actually exists tho http://trainspo.com/photo/42738/?list=class aparently it's fitted with a bunch of things needed to make it fit a passenger train locomotive role 00:35:29 <Eddi|zuHause> Killer11: have you seen the xUSSR set yet? 00:35:40 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:36:02 <Killer11> seen it a number of times actually 00:37:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so what's that missing that would be lithuania-specific? 00:37:27 <Killer11> all of the m62 mods that happened in the past 6 years or so 00:37:33 <Killer11> also the siemens euroruners 00:37:38 <Killer11> chech doubledeckers 00:37:42 <Killer11> and more 00:38:18 <Killer11> And with the whole Railbaltica thing i'll have a justification to make this set double gauge 00:38:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Killer11: sometimes engine stats are just too similar 00:39:07 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 00:39:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i got most of my engine stats from wikipedia 00:39:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but seemingly that is more complete for germany than other countries 00:39:49 <Killer11> That's why i left a question at a local forum where even some people that drive those thingsa frequent 00:40:53 <Killer11> in a day or two i should get my answer on that whole thing, at the very least the operating costs should be different and i wouldn't be surprised if CAT engines are a bit beefier 00:41:12 <Killer11> they are afterall much more modern 00:43:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18BB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44:30 <Eddi|zuHause> "more modern" nowadays mostly means "more environmentally friendly" instead of "more powerful" 00:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> which usually comes along with less fuel usage, but at the cost of more expensive electronics 00:45:28 <Killer11> true 00:46:46 <Killer11> the xussr set idea of longer vehicles seems interesting but also extremely complicated to me 00:47:10 <Killer11> how far into development is that feature of the set? 00:49:57 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know if they used that, but i wrote a concept here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=53511 00:50:13 <Eddi|zuHause> CETS is based on that 00:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets 00:55:31 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:56:38 <Killer11> I played arround with it and I just don't think OpenTTD is ready for this scale, it has the same problem that LongVehicles has 00:56:55 <Killer11> all looks fine until vehicles go trough tunnels/bridges/etc 00:57:12 <Killer11> then glitches appear because of the engien limitations and it just looks distracting 00:58:14 <Killer11> also if you redraw trains at that scale they become gigantic in comparison to everything else, i guess it's just a matter of taste and I preffer the TTD distorted scale 00:58:26 <Killer11> the game was just built for it 01:04:03 <Killer11> I wonder if that set will ever include TEM-TMH or TEM-LTH from what i can tell those version of the TEM shunter were an exclusive Lithuanian order but damn do they look pretty 01:06:25 <Killer11> http://trainspo.com/photo/45007/?list=class http://trainspo.com/photo/43645/?list=class respectively 01:11:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Killer11: my concept definetely solves the tunnel/bridge problem 01:12:17 <Killer11> they don't seem to use it in the set tho, or at least haven't implemented it yet 01:12:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Killer11: try out CETS 01:12:36 <Eddi|zuHause> it's fully playable, even though the graphics are mostly "missing" 01:13:04 <Killer11> thanks, will do 01:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause> use the prussian vehicles from ~1880-1920 for best effects :) 01:14:55 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:19:45 *** treaki__ [04e4588765@p4FF4A473.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:26:58 *** treaki_ [3499406963@p4FDF716B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:32:40 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-34-203.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32:41 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:02 *** Dark-Ace-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 01:43:27 *** Dark-Ace-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:46:05 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:15:31 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-35-82.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 02:17:27 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 02:44:06 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:41 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:00 *** LordAro [~LordAro@sns61-83.york.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:45:27 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has joined #openttd 02:49:33 *** Killer11 [Killer11@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 02:55:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DEE2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:04:54 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:14:08 *** roadt_ [~roadt@114.96.133.49] has joined #openttd 03:30:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6A0F3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:33:31 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-26-69.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:36:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DEE2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:28 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 03:50:50 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 03:55:36 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:17:33 *** Hazzard [~oftc-webi@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:21:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-59-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 04:27:25 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:37:03 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.29.5.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:59:12 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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I copied the files from my 1.3.2 server's baseset folder over to 1.3.3 was that not correct? 09:58:25 <blathijs> djgummikuh: The latter shouldn't affect the version 09:58:25 <planetmaker> copying the baseset or newgrf folders is not wrong 09:58:35 <blathijs> djgummikuh: How did you update the server? Did you restart it? 09:58:40 <planetmaker> but if it says it's 1.3.2 it likely is and you started the wrong binary 09:58:42 <djgummikuh> i stopped it 09:58:52 <djgummikuh> moved my openttd folder to openttd.132 and then the new one to openttd 09:58:54 <djgummikuh> then I started it again 09:59:06 <djgummikuh> ah and I copied the baseset folder as described 09:59:11 <planetmaker> maybe windows is more intelligent than you assume? 09:59:15 <djgummikuh> linux 09:59:25 <planetmaker> better then 09:59:33 <djgummikuh> I DO however use the user's home/.openttd folder for configuration (since the user is for this game only anyways) 09:59:35 <planetmaker> and how did you start it? 09:59:38 <djgummikuh> openttd -D 09:59:58 <planetmaker> right, if you use ~/.openttd/baseset for basesets... why do you need to move those? 10:00:05 <djgummikuh> uuhm... hold on 10:00:18 <djgummikuh> nah that folder is empty 10:00:29 <planetmaker> put your base set there 10:00:33 <djgummikuh> good point 10:00:38 <djgummikuh> did not even see that this folder existed there :) 10:00:40 <planetmaker> anyway, that's beside the point 10:01:59 <djgummikuh> ok 10:02:01 <planetmaker> what's the first line of output reported by ~/openttd/openttd -h 10:02:05 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-78-45-93-251.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:02:11 <djgummikuh> I deleted everything and did it again and now it identifies as 1.3.3 10:02:15 <planetmaker> or whereever your new binary resides 10:02:23 <djgummikuh> sesms I must've screwed something up last time around.. 10:02:34 <djgummikuh> that baseset suggestion was a good one though, makes updating easier in the future 10:04:03 <djgummikuh> great, working now. 10:04:13 <planetmaker> djgummikuh, the ~/.openttd folder and its sub-folders are used automatically, if the openttd.cfg is found in ~/.openttd 10:04:17 <planetmaker> and not next to the binary 10:04:29 <planetmaker> especially interesting for download content 10:07:14 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:09 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-35-82.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:18:15 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:50 <djgummikuh> planetmaker: yeah. Though I did not think it would be of much value for a pure dedicated server 10:34:54 <djgummikuh> seems I was wrong :9 10:35:34 <djgummikuh> mmh.. I'm still looking for someone who urgently wants to write me a squirrel script to allow me to add or deduct money from a company via the admin port :) 10:35:38 <djgummikuh> feel bored? ;) 10:37:37 <Xaroth|Work> wait, you want to write it, or you want to find somebody to write it 10:37:44 <djgummikuh> the latter ;) 10:39:23 <djgummikuh> I'm to lazy to learn squirrel for that :) 10:41:34 <Xaroth|Work> heh 10:43:43 <planetmaker> you use the admin port already? 10:44:21 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 10:49:17 <djgummikuh> planetmaker: yes 10:49:26 <djgummikuh> if you want, join me on openttd.letsplayonline.eu 10:49:41 <djgummikuh> though so far all i can do is send chat messages to and fro our MC server 10:50:01 <djgummikuh> next step would be user authentication against our word-press database to prevent name-theft of registered 10:50:09 <djgummikuh> *users 10:51:28 <djgummikuh> after-the-next step would be to integrate the webchat of our 2 moons to allow openttd players to also chat with 2 moons players. 10:51:49 <djgummikuh> and as soon as 1.4 comes out I'm planning on some (yet to be developed) money transfer between those games (and all that might come till then ;) ) 10:52:21 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-117-9-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 10:52:40 <djgummikuh> maybe winning in openttd gains you some kind of community currency that you can spend on premium features (also yet to be developed, we're still at an early stage ;) ) 10:53:18 <V453000> all I can say is wtf :-D 10:53:23 <djgummikuh> why? :) 10:54:24 <Xaroth|Work> you're not going to get much of a community if the site is german only tbqfh 10:54:46 <V453000> that too :d 10:54:48 <djgummikuh> tbqfh 10:54:57 <Xaroth|Work> to be quite fooking honest 10:55:02 <djgummikuh> ah i c 10:55:17 <Xaroth|Work> don't get me wrong, the idea is great 10:55:30 <djgummikuh> we're working on that, though we already have (or better: had) international players. 10:55:46 <djgummikuh> There was some kind of mutiny about a month back that crippled us badly... Still recoveringn from taht. 10:56:04 <Xaroth|Work> not surprising, seeing you mainly do minecraft 10:56:12 <djgummikuh> Still we already have a ~300 players userbase for MC alone which currently slowly expands into 2moons. 10:56:18 <djgummikuh> well yeah that's where it started 10:56:51 <djgummikuh> the idea of expanding to other games only came after 90% of the team decided to screw us from behind and delete our servers and start a new project... 10:57:19 <Xaroth|Work> that too, doesn't surprise me with the mc background 10:57:43 <Xaroth|Work> for some reason most people who play mc have -very- low standards when it comes to behavior and human interaction :| 10:57:49 <djgummikuh> well... actually the team is not so much to blame.. one of the former owners is weird in his head to say the least... 10:57:54 <Xaroth|Work> right up the level of CoD kiddies :| 10:57:57 <djgummikuh> Xaroth|Work: hey I play MC too :) 10:58:04 <Xaroth|Work> djgummikuh: i said most, not all 10:58:06 <Xaroth|Work> I play MC too 10:58:13 <djgummikuh> well :) care to join lpo? ^^ 10:58:18 <Xaroth|Work> heh, no thanks 10:58:25 <Xaroth|Work> not enough mods for my liking 10:58:33 <djgummikuh> too bad. 10:58:41 <djgummikuh> mods as in modification or mods as in moderators? 10:58:52 <Xaroth|Work> former 10:58:54 <djgummikuh> we're working on both 10:59:19 <djgummikuh> we happen to still have a FTB Ultimate running, that should be enough mods for everyone but we're shutting it down due to excessive hardware use of that server. 10:59:36 <Xaroth|Work> heh, yeh, ftb ultimate tends to use a bit 10:59:40 <Xaroth|Work> it's fun though 10:59:49 <djgummikuh> yeah too bad redpower got kicked in unleashed 10:59:58 <djgummikuh> we also had 2 unleashed server but they were deleted when the morons fled 11:00:01 <Xaroth|Work> rp2 was a downward spiral anyhow 11:00:28 <Xaroth|Work> there are dozens of mods around now that provide similar if not better variants 11:00:41 <djgummikuh> well I liked her computers :) 11:00:49 <djgummikuh> anyways you also can mod vanilla mc 11:00:56 <djgummikuh> just not too much with graphics and such 11:01:18 <djgummikuh> and I don't know if you ever wrote a mod for MC but writing for Forge is a PITA to say the least 11:01:25 <Xaroth|Work> meh, not too bad 11:01:52 <djgummikuh> writing for bukkit is much much more elegant and less clumsy (no obfuscation and stuff like that required) 11:04:14 <planetmaker> out of interest: djgummikuh, what do you use to connect to admin port? 11:04:45 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-204-128.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:08 <djgummikuh> joan iirc. 11:05:22 <djgummikuh> I extracted the classes and threw them into my project so I can't tell for 100% 11:05:36 <Xaroth|Work> is it java or python 11:05:39 <djgummikuh> basically I customized the SimpleConsole demo application that shipped with joan and adapted it 11:05:42 <Xaroth|Work> if java: joan, else libottdadmin2 11:05:42 <djgummikuh> it's java 11:05:55 <djgummikuh> that's what so neat about it - i can run it directly in the Minecraft server which also is java :) 11:06:02 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-123-204-128.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [] 11:06:34 <Xaroth|Work> crashing a minecraft server from within openttd, can't wait to see that one happen 11:07:03 * djgummikuh adds Xaroth|Work to his blacklist 11:08:28 <Xaroth|Work> lol 11:08:33 <Xaroth|Work> like crashing a mc server is -that- hard :| 11:09:02 <djgummikuh> mmh well I would guess so given the limited possibilities you have via my plugin :) 11:09:20 <djgummikuh> though spamming might be a problem... but since the plugin is mine I can easily adapt when need is apparent 11:09:22 <Xaroth|Work> it would be much more challenging to crash openttd from within minecraft that way 11:19:42 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:11 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:31:13 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@78.97.205.68] has joined #openttd 11:35:19 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 11:45:43 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 11:49:58 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:51:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:06 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:56:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@89.104.166.232] has joined #openttd 11:59:39 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.2.93] has joined #openttd 12:02:55 *** DarkAce-Z [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:06:15 *** Japa_ [~Japa@117.201.98.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:08:05 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 12:18:23 <planetmaker> we totally need more servers: Servers registered as on 2013-12-02 11:20:53 UTC. There are 82 clients, 241 IPv4 servers and 52 IPv6 servers. ;-) 12:18:25 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:24:38 <djgummikuh> yeah :-( You need to recruit new playes 12:24:49 <djgummikuh> I'm trying to deliver my share ;) 12:25:57 <djgummikuh> by the way openttd really should have some kind of unique identifier (like these opensource q3 engine based games like xonotic, tremulous, unvanquished and so on provide) for easier user management. 12:27:08 <djgummikuh> I believe xonotic even has a public/private key pair which is used to identify a client with the server. 12:28:22 <Xaroth|Work> there's a plan for that, actually 12:29:04 <Xaroth|Work> but plans vs reality, well.. they often aren't as linear as one would think 12:33:08 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-26-69.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:39:45 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:30 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:46:37 <__ln__> anyone been to the Berlin airshow? 12:46:55 <planetmaker> few years ago, yes 12:48:15 <__ln__> was there enough to see? 12:51:01 <planetmaker> well, sufficient for a day for sure. But then, for me it's a quick and easy trip, less than 2 hours one-way 12:51:03 <V453000> is Berlin not enough to see on itself? :P 12:51:55 <__ln__> was there some aerobatics team performing with fighters? 12:52:21 <planetmaker> at least in one of the years I've been there, yes. I think also in the other 12:52:43 <planetmaker> they were then showing the eurofighter compete with Mig and Phantom 12:53:23 <planetmaker> they also had some artistic formation flights 12:53:42 <__ln__> sounds good 12:53:58 <planetmaker> and flight show for new airbus and boing models 12:54:50 *** Tom_Soft [~id@37.140.125.71] has joined #openttd 12:56:36 <__ln__> big passenger planes are one thing that are rarely demonstrated in finnish airshows, and not by their manufacturer anyway. not very surprising. 12:57:45 <planetmaker> flight show for the airbus looked kinda lame after the eurofighter show :P 12:59:34 <__ln__> for decades there used to be this one flightshow in finland that took place in the evening and night. the fighter portion usually began around 22:00 and ended at 00:00. 13:00:19 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 13:04:35 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 13:08:27 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@68.123.204.128] has joined #openttd 13:08:49 <__ln__> anyone been to the Farnborough airshow? 13:10:13 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@68.123.204.128] has quit [] 13:29:43 *** Pecio [~fgh@drj197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 13:48:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:31 *** Pecio [~fgh@drj197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:58:53 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:40 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:00 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 14:13:40 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:19:31 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:35:33 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 14:36:41 *** Tom_Soft [~id@37.140.125.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:52:16 *** Pecio [~fgh@drj197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #openttd [] 15:02:30 *** Killer11 [Killer11@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:51 <Killer11> Hello everyone 15:03:12 <Killer11> I have received info on those upgraded 2M62's 15:04:08 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:19 <Killer11> 2M62K is just an engine swap for a Kolomna diesel that gives the same amount of power 15:05:43 <Killer11> 2M62M however is aparently a brand new loco inside, the only thign left of the original is the frame and the electric drive, everythign else is new and their CAT engines develop 1700KW each instead of 1450KW of the original, that adds up to 500KW of extra power 15:05:56 <Killer11> definitely warrants an extra loco in the set 15:08:13 <Xaroth|Work> Taede: got your PR, will probably implement it slightly different 15:09:22 <Taede> same end-result though? 15:10:02 <Xaroth|Work> probably 15:11:14 <Taede> :) 15:13:23 *** Tom_Soft [~id@37.140.125.71] has joined #openttd 15:20:13 *** MNIM [~mBuntu@ip5452ffad.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: *Throws a nuclear warhead in the room and flees*] 15:21:35 <Belugas> hello 15:22:08 <Killer11> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEyDPnyZEVM this vid is awesome. 15:22:19 <Xaroth|Work> o/ Belugas 15:22:26 <Taede> ello 15:22:57 <Killer11> also hi 15:23:01 <Killer11> :3 15:24:43 <V453000> no hi 15:24:45 <V453000> :E 15:25:07 <V453000> oh god real trains 15:25:31 <Belugas> hello xaroth and the others :) 15:25:46 <planetmaker> hullo :) 15:26:47 <Xaroth|Work> o> 15:27:05 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 15:27:56 <Killer11> That guy makes soem really good train vids, and manages to catch some unique situations, one of his vids is 3 2m62m's cought at the same spot, one returnign to railyard and two departing with 5 thousand ton trains, all in amazing HD 15:40:17 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:50 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:23 *** Twofish [~Twofish@0001308f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. 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18:16:18 <peter1138> Bah, steering input not centered in ETS2 on Linux :( 18:16:25 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:18:31 *** montalvo [~montalvo@papc-ma276.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:22:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74379f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:42 <Xaroth|Work> __ln__: nope, wouldn't mind going there once though 18:44:33 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 18:44:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:28 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.235.65] has joined #openttd 19:03:19 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:14:34 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:23:33 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 19:35:27 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26141 /trunk/src/lang (portuguese.txt turkish.txt) (2013-12-02 18:45:19 UTC) 19:35:28 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 19:35:29 <DorpsGek> portuguese - 1 changes by vesgo 19:35:30 <DorpsGek> turkish - 39 changes by wakeup 19:41:00 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:42:29 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-117-9-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:48:40 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 20:13:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host58-55-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:14:33 <Wolf01> moin 20:19:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:58 <Alberth> o/ 20:21:27 <andythenorth> o/ 20:21:47 <andythenorth> so the game I'm playing is kind of fun 20:22:08 <andythenorth> I have some congested routes and crap to sort out, which is interesting 20:25:20 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:07 <andythenorth> trying to figure out how to make FIRS supplies work with cargodist 20:26:13 <andythenorth> anyone tried that? 20:26:44 <V453000> disable cargodist 20:27:46 <andythenorth> ok that's option 1 20:27:51 <andythenorth> any others? o-O 20:28:24 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:28:52 *** Killer11 [Killer11@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:30:35 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:40 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 20:31:57 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:37 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 20:46:52 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:52:42 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:00:29 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:34 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 21:01:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:47 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:06:48 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 21:20:09 <Alberth> I haven't had enough courage to try firs at all, together with cdist :) 21:20:23 <andythenorth> Alberth: :P 21:20:38 <Alberth> With so many cargoes, it will become a nightmare very quickly, I think :) 21:20:58 <Alberth> even without supplies :p 21:21:00 <andythenorth> it's ok on a basic economy (I'm playing temperate basic) 21:21:06 <andythenorth> the supplies are just broken 21:21:20 <andythenorth> cdist has no way of knowing the 'demand' that FIRS has 21:21:40 <Alberth> yeah, subsidies are also broken by cdist 21:21:42 <andythenorth> it's a bit sad, because supplies finally got worked out, and now they're broken again :) 21:22:18 <andythenorth> it's almost as though we could use a way for industries to express demand :( 21:22:38 <andythenorth> for example, by posting demand onto tiles or such 21:23:44 <planetmaker> andythenorth, it's not broken. It just does work badly with cargodist 21:23:55 <andythenorth> planetmaker: same thing :D 21:24:09 <planetmaker> Maybe 'cargodist' should become a global flag which could be checked by NewGRFs 21:24:14 <planetmaker> or is it already? 21:24:18 <andythenorth> I guess the interesting question - is it solvable, or does FIRS need to be rethought again? 21:24:43 <frosch123> what's the problem? 21:24:56 <planetmaker> you can't exactly do cargo requirements with the same algorithm for both cargodist and without 21:24:56 <frosch123> nearby industries get too much supplies, far away ones none? 21:25:18 <andythenorth> not quite - I found the setting to adjust that and tested it 21:25:51 <andythenorth> cdist has no concept that a FIRS industry wants between n and m units of supplies delivered per month 21:25:57 <andythenorth> n = low amount, m = high amount 21:26:29 <andythenorth> and as a player, I have no way to circumvent cdist other than turn it off :) 21:26:42 <andythenorth> a sticking plaster would be a newgrf cargo flag for cdist to ignore a cargo 21:26:43 <frosch123> how should n and m affect routing? 21:28:00 <andythenorth> I'm not sure 21:28:08 <andythenorth> bit wary of specifying solutions for something I don't understand 21:28:15 <frosch123> well, what are you heading for? 21:28:18 <andythenorth> the problem is partly expressed by this screenshot 21:28:22 <frosch123> you did not state any problem 21:29:15 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5626/FIRS_cdist.png 21:29:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:29:38 <andythenorth> stating the problem takes a while to get out of my head :P 21:29:48 <andythenorth> problems that are clear in my head are not so much to other people :P 21:30:14 <frosch123> so, cargo is not evenly distributed? or not evenly loaded? 21:30:21 <andythenorth> ok - ignore implementations. Problem from a gameplay perspective: 21:30:22 <frosch123> in any case, you have too few vehicles 21:30:59 <andythenorth> - I want to deliver correct amount of supplies to as many destination industries as possible 21:31:16 <andythenorth> - I can't figure out how to do it with cdist 21:31:50 <frosch123> build more vehicles maybe? 21:32:08 <andythenorth> seems counter-intuitive 21:32:11 <frosch123> maybe it is loading only the cargo for tanner road 21:32:19 <andythenorth> no 21:32:28 <frosch123> while tinklebury is waiting to be picked up 21:32:30 <andythenorth> that's one of the counter-intuitive issues 21:32:36 <andythenorth> tanner road barely gets any distribution 21:32:43 <andythenorth> the link is very low capacity 21:32:48 <andythenorth> one train, 3 wagons 21:32:52 <andythenorth> spends months getting loaded 21:33:07 <andythenorth> I could add more trains, but that's counter-intuitive 21:33:28 <andythenorth> it's only a 25 tile hop 21:33:42 <frosch123> so you want destinations independent of link capacities? 21:33:48 <andythenorth> possibly 21:34:07 <andythenorth> I don't want to jump to a solution, I'm not sure I have explained the problem correctly :) 21:34:21 <frosch123> well, you are exceeding my knowledge of cdist then :p 21:34:27 <andythenorth> an alternative is to remove supplies from FIRS 21:34:34 <frosch123> i though capacities would only affect which route the cargo would taker 21:34:35 <andythenorth> so that's 2 options 21:34:37 <frosch123> not which destination 21:35:37 <frosch123> removing supplies is no alternative :p 21:36:21 <frosch123> you can always enable cdist only for pax&mail 21:36:37 <frosch123> i actually wonder whether i should play a mail game for the first time in 20 years 21:36:48 <andythenorth> :P 21:37:07 <andythenorth> my observation so far is that cdist works for freight where the networks are simple 21:37:21 <andythenorth> i.e. for each linkgraph, there are multiple sources and one destination 21:37:22 <frosch123> that's like playing without cdist :pö 21:37:36 <andythenorth> I am thinking of it as 'automated transfers' 21:37:42 <andythenorth> it saves me setting orders 21:38:00 <andythenorth> so far I can't make any sense of it where the linkgraph has more destinations 21:38:06 <andythenorth> seems to work ok for PAX, kind of 21:38:09 <frosch123> make a manual cdist patch then :p 21:38:16 <frosch123> do not give load/unload orders 21:38:29 <frosch123> but set the distribution amounts manually at the station :) 21:38:43 <frosch123> 10% north, 90% west 21:39:07 <andythenorth> oh, like dispatcher orders? 21:39:16 <andythenorth> umm, that's actually interesting :P 21:39:30 <andythenorth> I have some distribution networks, e.g. delivering goods etc 21:39:42 <andythenorth> I have spent some time building and destroying capacity on them, but can't understand the results 21:40:28 <andythenorth> probably EAndythenorth 21:40:32 <andythenorth> usually is 21:45:32 <andythenorth> I guess there's some stuff that only pro players will really understand 21:46:34 <Alberth> and some other stuff that nobody understand :p 21:46:47 <frosch123> i am not aware of anyone living from playing ottd 21:46:49 *** skyem123 [~skyem123@cpc1-walt4-0-0-cust432.13-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:31 <andythenorth> maybe the 'game' is working out the emergent behaviour of the system? 21:47:54 *** Pol [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:43 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has joined #openttd 21:59:47 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:00:41 <andythenorth> so is it a nasty kludge to put an 'ignored by cdist' flag on a cargo? 22:01:36 <fonsinchen> In cargodist demand does _not_ depend on capacities, only on connectedness 22:02:01 <fonsinchen> And yes, cargodist does not know about industries demanding between n and m amount of cargo 22:02:17 <fonsinchen> It will generally have its own ideas on how much cargo to send where. 22:02:34 *** adf88 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:50 <fonsinchen> However, as stated before, the handler system is very modular. Someone could write a replacement for the demand handler. 22:03:23 <fonsinchen> Or an additional one to be used as alternative to symmetric or asymmetric 22:03:44 <fonsinchen> In that way a YACD-like thing could be written on top of cargodist, too. 22:04:21 <fonsinchen> andythenorth, you should switch to "planned" mode in the station GUI to see what's really going on. 22:04:34 <andythenorth> o_O 22:04:45 <andythenorth> oh my :) 22:04:53 <fonsinchen> There may be cargo stuck in other places further upstream 22:04:54 <andythenorth> so many new drop down menus 22:06:37 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:47 *** oskari89 [oskari89@62-241-226-106.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:06:51 * andythenorth had better go read the wiki 22:09:51 <andythenorth> so I need bigger / faster trains 22:09:53 <andythenorth> basically 22:10:12 <andythenorth> so the solution to under-delivery is over-delivery 22:13:29 <fonsinchen> You should carefully check where the cargo gets stuck and increase capacity where it is needed 22:14:35 <andythenorth> hmm 22:15:35 <andythenorth> I should probably just test by putting a bigger train on 22:15:40 <andythenorth> it's a single hop, 20 tiles 22:15:47 <andythenorth> there's no 'stuck' that I can see 22:15:51 <fonsinchen> You probably know the link graph overlay for the smallmap and main viewport, do you? 22:16:07 <fonsinchen> The yellow and red lines are generally the ones you should be looking at. 22:16:30 <andythenorth> where is toggle for main viewport? 22:16:38 <fonsinchen> In the map menu 22:17:23 <fonsinchen> Also, you might just have enough capacity everywhere and cargodist is just not sending the "correct" amount of cargo to your industries 22:17:47 <fonsinchen> If the industries are constantly changing their acceptance status the distribution will be unstable and change often, too 22:17:54 <andythenorth> neat grf 22:18:01 <fonsinchen> You can't really rely on the numbers, then. 22:18:04 <andythenorth> neat overlay sorry :P 22:18:10 <andythenorth> ok, so the link is barely used 22:18:14 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@78.97.205.68] has quit [] 22:18:18 <andythenorth> so I should put more capacity on it? 22:18:20 <andythenorth> bigger train? 22:18:36 <fonsinchen> no, if it's barely used, you don't have to increase capacity, of course ... 22:18:44 <andythenorth> oh :( 22:19:10 * fonsinchen prays for brain ... 22:21:21 <andythenorth> ok I may have misunderstood cdist fundamentally :) 22:22:33 <andythenorth> I think there's a fundamental problem that I am trying to trick cdist 22:22:53 <frosch123> it pays back by tricking you? 22:23:06 <andythenorth> double-trick :P 22:23:34 <andythenorth> the point of cdist is that it decides where cargo goes, I just provide the transport routes? 22:27:48 <fonsinchen> Yes 22:28:08 <fonsinchen> What else would it do, after all ... 22:28:10 <andythenorth> ok I'm doing it wrong :) 22:28:31 <andythenorth> I have misunderstood cdist :) 22:29:25 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has joined #openttd 22:31:22 *** LeandroL [~leandro@190.189.0.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:12 <frosch123> night 22:37:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f74379f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:39:26 <Eddi|zuHause> to understand cargodist, you have to forget everything you learned about yacd :p 22:40:01 *** DarkAceZ [~BillyMays@50.107.53.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:46:28 <andythenorth> I thought I'd done that :P 22:46:57 <andythenorth> nvm 22:51:56 *** DanMacK [~63f9c362@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:54:20 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@g225186157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:55:24 *** roboboy [~robotboy@0001164c.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:04:06 <NGC3982> fastnar exif kvar i bilder nÀr dom komprimeras och skickas som mms? 23:04:38 <NGC3982> Oops. Wrong channel. 23:08:18 <V453000> mms. 23:08:34 <__ln__> en bra fråga i alla fall. 23:09:12 *** Killer11 [Killer11@d.clients.kiwiirc.com] has joined #openttd 23:09:30 <Killer11> Hello 23:09:49 <Killer11> is it possible to do locomotive running sounds trough NML ? 22:22:47 <planetmaker> yes, there's a sound callback 22:23:20 <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Builtin_functions 22:23:33 <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Sound_events 22:24:17 <planetmaker> sorry, sound_effect 22:26:49 <Killer11> How do I use it tho, I can't really figure out where to put what and how the whole syntax would look like 22:27:20 <Killer11> Like if I have a specific engine sound for a specific locomotive for which i want to use it 22:27:25 <Killer11> where do I begin 22:29:11 <Killer11> do i call these functions from the graphics section of the item definition? as stuff that is dealign more with usage logic than graphics seems to land in that place too 22:32:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B12A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:59 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:12 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:47:07 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 22:48:23 *** Superuser [~superuser@cpc11-lewi15-2-0-cust98.2-4.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:06 *** Haube1 [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 22:54:30 *** Haube1 [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:47 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:41 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-40-44-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 23:03:14 *** adf89 [~Thunderbi@wis-zul.spine.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:34 <Killer11> how does the "switch?" for locomotive running sound look? 23:06:38 <Killer11> in nml 23:12:53 <Wolf01> 'night 23:13:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:13:15 <Killer11> "switch(FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, SOUND_M62, sound("sound.wav"), SOUND_EVENT_RUNNING)" am i even close ? 23:21:53 *** Alice3 [~Alice@cpc18-grim14-2-0-cust478.12-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 23:23:30 *** Super_Random [~kvirc@75-102-176-79.d2.itctel.com] has joined #openttd 23:24:54 <Killer11> neverminf, found the correct syntax on the forums] 23:32:09 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 23:37:35 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:55:33 *** wakou2 [~stephen@host86-150-26-69.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:57:15 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91-65-117-9-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:57:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit []