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00:05:28 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:42 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:19 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has joined #openttd 00:41:47 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:07 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:47:11 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:28 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has joined #openttd 01:06:39 <Flygon__> To whoever maintains the Swedish Houses set 01:06:53 <Flygon__> The Flats (under construction) artwork's a tad bugged 01:07:38 *** Flygon__ is now known as Flygon 01:08:47 <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/iceland2010buggeredswedishhouse1.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/iceland2010buggeredswedishhouse2.png 01:14:56 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 01:16:45 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:44 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has joined #openttd 01:23:00 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:26 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 01:27:44 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:38:58 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 01:43:44 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@ip503d7ac1.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:59:47 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:12:02 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:37 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:29:58 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.103.199] has joined #openttd 02:32:49 *** Japa__ [~Japa@117.214.0.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:47:30 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@187.58.245.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:53:50 *** Japa [~Japa@117.201.103.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:54:59 *** nex259 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 03:13:34 *** nex2590 [~nex259@i218-47-75-27.s05.a022.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #openttd 03:18:33 *** nex2591 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 03:20:38 *** nex259 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:24:03 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:25:40 *** nex2590 [~nex259@i218-47-75-27.s05.a022.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:28:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AAC2.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:55:15 *** Hazzard [~oftc-webi@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:47 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:55:55 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02:35 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.19.42.8] has joined #openttd 04:04:33 *** Hazzard [~oftc-webi@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:09:01 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.19.42.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:09:05 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 04:21:19 *** blackhair [~blackhair@122.167.148.51] has joined #openttd 04:57:15 *** blackhair [~blackhair@122.167.148.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:07:47 *** Hazzard [~oftc-webi@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:14:09 *** nex2591 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has left #openttd [Leaving...] 05:14:11 *** nex2591 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 05:14:20 *** nex2591 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has left #openttd [Leaving...] 05:14:42 *** nex2591 [~nex259@ZL084131.ppp.dion.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 05:14:50 *** nex2591 is now known as nex259 05:52:42 *** triad [~triad@5-13-103-169.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 05:55:10 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.19.42.8] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC) (Quit: is) (Quit: growing.] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66F98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4589.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:02:54 <Flygon_> Ever wish you could copy-pasta train stations? 06:02:56 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 06:31:57 <rubidium> nope... how realistic is it that there are two stations that are equal? 06:32:55 <V453000> well done rubidium :D 06:36:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:41:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 06:43:06 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:53:26 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 07:07:15 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-24-29.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:45 <Flygon> rubidium: Depends on the area, really 07:20:07 <Flygon> Urban areas can easily have copypaste being used 07:21:31 <V453000> not like many newGRF sets dont use their own "copypaste" preset stations 07:25:21 <Flygon> Hmm 07:25:31 <V453000> e.g. japanese stations 07:25:44 <V453000> many ISR stations for cargo 07:25:46 <V453000> etc 07:29:10 <rubidium> I've never been confused by two stations looking too much alike, and I've seen quite a lot of them 07:31:06 <rubidium> the only time I got confused is when I was only shown the schematic tracks (without track names and such) 07:36:35 <Flygon> Arf, sorry if I'm slow to reply 07:36:38 <Flygon> Incredibly drained 07:52:08 *** blackhair [~blackhair@122.167.148.51] has joined #openttd 08:00:13 *** blackhair [~blackhair@122.167.148.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:03:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 08:24:34 <George> Hi, can anybody here help me with web translator error report? 08:24:47 <George> Base lang string: {BLACK}You have won!{}You needed {WHITE}{NUM} year{P "" s} and {NUM} month{P "" s}{BLACK} to achieve the goal.{}That is worth {STRING}{BLACK}! 08:25:01 <George> Translation: {BLACK}ÐПзЎÑавлÑеЌ, Ð²Ñ Ð¿ÐŸÐ±ÐµÐŽÐžÐ»Ðž!{}ÐаЌ пПÑÑебПвал{P ÑÑ ÐŸÑÑ ÐŸÑÑ} {WHITE}{NUM} {P гПЎ гПЎа леÑ} О {NUM} ЌеÑÑÑ{P "" а ев}{BLACK} ÐŽÐ»Ñ ÐŽÐŸÑÑÐžÐ¶ÐµÐœÐžÑ ÑелО.{}РезÑлÑÑаÑ: {STRING}{BLACK}! 08:25:10 <George> Error: String parameter -1 is out of bounds for plural queries {P ..} 08:25:17 <George> How to fix that? 08:25:55 <George> In this case I have to use different words, not different endings 08:26:50 <George> Year-> 1 гПЎ, 2 гПЎа but 5 Ð»ÐµÑ 08:27:40 <George> What to do? 08:30:33 <George> Or there is an other reason for error? 08:35:39 <planetmaker> you need to give the positional information 08:35:44 *** ChickeNES [~ChickeNES@c-50-148-73-101.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 08:36:06 <planetmaker> possibly 08:36:24 <planetmaker> {P 0 "" s} 08:36:32 <planetmaker> {P 1 blubber blah} 08:36:42 <planetmaker> to reference the appropriate occurance in the base string 08:38:38 <George> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/string/siliconvalley/ru_RU/STR_WON 08:39:16 <George> Looks like the problem is that NUM goes after the {P } 08:39:50 <George> As you can see removing {P ÑÑ ÐŸÑÑ ÐŸÑÑ} provides no error 08:40:47 <George> so how should I show that I reffer next {NUM} 08:41:08 <planetmaker> iirc 0 should always be the first occuance of {NUM} 08:41:20 <planetmaker> 1 the 2nd etc 08:42:00 <George> Ok, I changed to 0 and now it does not report error 08:42:45 <planetmaker> Only if no explicit number is given, it should always refer to the preceeding one 08:43:12 <George> Ok, hope it would work right in game :) 08:46:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:34 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit 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server if we want to play. V occupied our prozone one :P 18:13:36 <andythenorth> :P 18:13:40 <andythenorth> want to? 18:13:41 <Alberth> the last game was tooooo boring, waiting forever for building a few track tiles 18:13:53 <andythenorth> needs the correct save ;) 18:14:25 <andythenorth> do we need a checklist? :P 18:14:38 <planetmaker> would make sense to have one, yes 18:14:52 <planetmaker> could abuse (coop?)wiki for that 18:15:14 <andythenorth> yup 18:15:15 <planetmaker> there's one for the typical publicserver games. But that's not suitable for the gamestyle discussed for these games 18:15:39 <andythenorth> discuss here, or straight into wiki? 18:15:56 <planetmaker> just go straight for wiki 18:15:59 <planetmaker> it can be edited 18:16:09 <planetmaker> and a first version is always good to start a discussion 18:16:21 <andythenorth> planetmaker: does wiki have SSO with anything else? 18:16:23 <andythenorth> I have no account on it 18:16:39 <planetmaker> yes, single sign-on. With itself :P 18:16:47 <Alberth> :) 18:17:12 <andythenorth> oic :P 18:17:38 <planetmaker> coop has no tru3brain to pull that off ;) 18:18:16 <andythenorth> what is the right place to add it? 18:18:21 <andythenorth> (the checklist) 18:18:32 <andythenorth> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation 18:18:32 <andythenorth> ? 18:19:03 <planetmaker> yeah, that's the publicserver one 18:19:31 <Alberth> implement loading an height map for a game? :) 18:19:34 <planetmaker> How do we call this gamestyle? 18:19:52 <Alberth> andy's goals :p 18:20:13 <planetmaker> goal server? 18:20:22 <planetmaker> coop goal server? 18:20:31 <planetmaker> we never really play competitive, do we? 18:20:47 <Alberth> we don't, indeed 18:20:53 <Alberth> touchdown! server 18:21:29 <Alberth> a bit too cryptic perhaps ;) 18:21:56 <planetmaker> let's call it goal server. That's good 18:22:55 <andythenorth> the publicserver guide is quite nice and detailed :) 18:23:04 <andythenorth> but for this a tl;dr checklist would do 18:23:15 <planetmaker> agreed 18:23:41 <planetmaker> but thanks. I wrote that guide originally :) 18:27:57 <LSky> was there a way for admins to move players/or the admin themselves to a company? that, or clear/change a company's password? 18:31:46 <planetmaker> rcon move X Y 18:32:03 <planetmaker> X and Y are clientID and companyID respectively 18:32:27 <planetmaker> companyID 255 is spectator 18:32:52 <planetmaker> clientID 0 is server itself 18:34:25 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C37DD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:35:19 <LSky> thanks 18:37:01 <LSky> are you sure server is 0, not 1? 18:37:17 <V453000> 666 18:37:28 <planetmaker> no, I'm not sure 18:38:15 <Taede> server == 1 18:38:38 <Kjetil> rcon move 666 0 "Gates of hell just open up near samville" "Supplies: Heat, Requires: Passengers" 18:39:03 <planetmaker> lool 18:39:12 <planetmaker> sounds like a nice idea for GS + NewGRF though :) 18:39:33 <planetmaker> andythenorth, where are thou? :D 18:39:38 <Kjetil> :) 18:39:39 <LSky> gotta be: rcon password "move 666 0" though 18:39:49 <LSky> or it wont work 18:39:58 <planetmaker> yes. 18:40:15 <planetmaker> I always use soap irc<->openttd bridge and that spares me quotation marks 18:40:32 <andythenorth> planetmaker: sounds like a pikka thing ;) 18:40:55 <planetmaker> down under is hell? Sounds about alright :P 18:41:14 <LSky> yeah i havent figured out the admin functions of the irc bridge yet 18:41:44 <andythenorth> hot as hell in brisvegas some days ;) 18:41:45 <LSky> all in good time 18:43:29 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:57 <andythenorth> planetmaker: dumb question, how do I wiki? 18:48:03 <andythenorth> I have never understood wikis :P 18:48:36 <andythenorth> or specifically, how do I add a page? 18:48:48 <planetmaker> create an invalid link, follow it, edit 18:49:15 <andythenorth> I can't edit the front page? 18:49:22 <planetmaker> that's right 18:49:25 <planetmaker> but every other 18:49:58 <planetmaker> I thought you just link from the map creation page you found 18:50:32 <planetmaker> A small sentence in the introduction like "For the goal server see special instructions [map settings goal server|here]. 18:50:34 <planetmaker> " 18:53:23 <andythenorth> will do ta 18:55:11 <Alberth> Apparently, nfo outputstream does borrow stuff from the binary output stream in nml 18:56:01 <Alberth> someone(tm) messed up the inheritance hierarchy :) 18:56:08 <planetmaker> he :P 18:57:23 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@98.145.80.103] has joined #openttd 19:03:37 <andythenorth> oh 19:03:46 <andythenorth> no edit rights until I confirm my email :) 19:04:25 * andythenorth stopped checking email christmas 2012 19:05:44 <Alberth> hmm, then you may have a few emails :) 19:05:48 <planetmaker> what's your login, andythenorth ? 19:07:47 <andythenorth> I have checked mail 19:07:51 <andythenorth> confirmed 19:10:49 <andythenorth> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Goal_Server#Goal_Server 19:11:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b9fc.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:04 <andythenorth> lo fr 19:13:56 <Alberth> he osch123 19:14:11 <andythenorth> frosch123: where is your GS results page? 19:14:32 <Alberth> https://wiki.openttd.org/NoCarGoal 19:14:42 <Alberth> that one? 19:15:21 <andythenorth> yup 19:15:26 <andythenorth> added it to the Goal Server page 19:15:38 <andythenorth> will we make a game for play tonight? 19:15:41 <andythenorth> time is ticking :) 19:17:49 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.19.42.8] has joined #openttd 19:23:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-24-29.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 19:24:21 <andythenorth> lo pikka boo 19:24:27 <Pikka> might do 19:24:39 <Alberth> not for me 19:25:12 <andythenorth> Pikka: is it game tonight? Or making? 19:25:15 * andythenorth might do making 19:25:44 <Pikka> making is always good 19:25:55 <Pikka> I've been playing sillies in motion deux 19:26:11 * andythenorth RV makings 19:26:18 <Pikka> huzzah 19:26:42 <andythenorth> we'll see 19:26:45 <andythenorth> might be rubbish 19:27:25 <Pikka> rubbishlorries.grf 19:27:44 <andythenorth> yeah 19:27:54 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:29 <andythenorth> or making Squids 19:28:40 <andythenorth> Pikka: do you want to draw this big bloody catamarran for me? 19:28:47 <andythenorth> I really have no motivation to do it :P 19:28:55 <Pikka> well 19:28:59 <andythenorth> it's the only thing really blocking a release of Squid :P 19:29:09 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 19:29:18 <andythenorth> I could renderise, but I haven't CGIed for about 10 years 19:29:26 <Pikka> didn't you have a bigbloodycatamaran already? 19:29:33 <andythenorth> it's not good 19:30:11 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/entry/src/graphics/mount_blaze_catamaran_ferry_0.png 19:30:16 <andythenorth> I could just delete it from the set 19:30:34 <Pikka> I could do it I suppose, but not right now. 19:30:35 <planetmaker> lol, Pikka :) yeah, I word it more strongly :D 19:31:32 <planetmaker> though I think the main problem that guy faces is: OpenTTD does not support TTDPatch savegames ;) 19:31:55 <planetmaker> but I'm not exactly sure what rules apply there with grfs... so... :X 19:33:08 <rubidium> well, it does 'best effort, but no guarantees' 19:34:57 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest2836 19:34:57 *** Guest2836 [~frank@p5DE57F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34:58 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DE57F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:35:44 <andythenorth> do we think this 'ocean tiles' thing is a go? 19:36:00 <andythenorth> I am about to change Squid to remove the issue... 19:36:05 <andythenorth> which I think is a boring decision 19:36:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36:34 <andythenorth> guess how I remove the issue? 19:36:46 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest2837 19:36:47 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@89.204.138.8] has joined #openttd 19:37:11 <peter1139> DROP TABLE issues 19:37:45 <andythenorth> correct approach :) 19:39:39 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host58-55-dynamic.182-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:42:40 <Wolf01> hey all 19:42:54 <andythenorth> o/ 19:42:54 <frosch123> ciao 19:43:03 *** Guest2837 [~frank@p5DE57F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43:38 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:06 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest2838 19:44:07 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC606F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:50:32 *** Guest2838 [~frank@89.204.138.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:09 <andythenorth> hurr 19:52:28 <andythenorth> so my idea was to have RV rosters matching to Iron Horse train rosters 19:52:37 <andythenorth> e.g. Brit, Euro, North American, etc 19:52:57 <andythenorth> dunno if Brit and Euro RVs are sufficiently different 19:53:05 <andythenorth> or rather, I do know, because I'm a truck nerd 19:53:19 <andythenorth> but eh, does it matter? 19:53:39 <andythenorth> maybe just Euro? 19:54:29 <Wolf01> http://rt.com/news/virus-siberia-permafrost-france-776/ eh, it's like: "we don't know what it is, but let's revive it, what could happen?" 19:55:21 <andythenorth> it's a low risk apparently 19:55:27 <andythenorth> I like low risks 19:55:32 <andythenorth> like chernobyl 19:56:45 <Zuu> Hmm I need to teach PAXLink to not waste its inital loan on statues :-) 19:59:12 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:57 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19E3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:37 *** triad [~triad@5-13-103-169.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:13:28 *** blackhair [blackhair@117.192.50.209] has joined #openttd 20:21:32 *** blackhair [blackhair@117.192.50.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:01 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:31 <andythenorth> oops 20:29:33 <andythenorth> stuck on names :P 20:29:36 <andythenorth> stupid blockers 20:29:42 <andythenorth> Pikka: what shall I call them? 20:30:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19E3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:48 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:07 <Pikka> call whom? 20:31:12 <andythenorth> road vehicles and such 20:31:16 <andythenorth> normally I have some theme 20:31:26 <andythenorth> like mountains or shipping areas or glaciers or whatever 20:31:28 <Pikka> Hmm 20:31:36 <Pikka> I have no idea! :D 20:31:40 <andythenorth> for IH Dan did it 20:31:42 <andythenorth> way easier :P 20:31:48 <andythenorth> where is collaborator? :P 20:31:54 * andythenorth hates working 100% alone 20:37:53 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:20 <Zuu> The cargodist minimap overlay is quite nice for visualizing the results from the pair optimzer in PAXLink :-) 20:39:05 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 20:39:12 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc8-cwma7-2-0-cust113.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:42:17 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:03 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:35 * andythenorth finds names 21:10:06 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: how many pax is your ideal tram? 21:21:00 <planetmaker> depends on the tram? 21:21:04 <planetmaker> and the route? 21:21:45 <andythenorth> Eddi normally has concrete answers for most stuff :) 21:24:39 <Pikka> 45 21:24:57 <Pikka> for articulated or double-decker, imo 21:25:05 <Pikka> 30 for single car 21:25:09 <frosch123> that's a bus size 21:25:17 <frosch123> not a tram size 21:25:19 <andythenorth> I am thinking quite a lot more 21:25:46 <andythenorth> haven't used trams in ages though 21:25:48 <frosch123> tram capacity should be right in the middle between a bus and a normal-sized train 21:25:57 <andythenorth> I am thinking 60-100 21:25:59 <frosch123> normal sized train being 5-7 tiles 21:26:33 <Pikka> ridiculous 21:26:40 <frosch123> 100 pax sounds abuot right 21:27:14 <andythenorth> ridilicous? 21:28:06 <Pikka> well 21:28:19 <Pikka> I think of trams as being buses, but if you want to think of them as light rail, I suppose it's reasonable :P 21:31:50 <andythenorth> :) 21:32:30 <andythenorth> ooh 21:32:31 <andythenorth> a truck 21:32:35 <andythenorth> in my game 21:32:37 <andythenorth> how exciting 21:33:31 <planetmaker> usually a tram is also twice as long as a bus 21:33:46 <planetmaker> as one of the long busses, those with articulation 21:34:00 <andythenorth> I can find 'realistic' UK capacities for double trams across a wide range :) 21:34:10 <andythenorth> but for gameplay, 60 or 80 seems about right 21:34:11 <andythenorth> and 30mph 21:34:19 <andythenorth> this is 1940 or so 21:36:15 <Pikka> planetmaker: these are not twice as long as an articulated bus 21:36:17 <Pikka> http://www.brisbanetramwaymuseum.org/photoalbum.php 21:36:26 <Pikka> but like I said, depends what you're thinking of as trams :) 21:36:35 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 21:37:57 <andythenorth> this kind of stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tramcars_of_the_National_Tramway_Museum 21:38:00 <frosch123> why would anyone build such a thing? 21:38:30 <andythenorth> 16-93 seats + standing 21:38:47 <Pikka> realistic capacities, psh 21:40:02 * andythenorth is shocked 21:40:52 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:40:58 <frosch123> 16 seats :p 21:41:07 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:42:59 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:42:59 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:13 <andythenorth> when is trolley roadtype? 21:45:24 <Pikka> when any roadtype, approximately 21:50:08 * andythenorth sticks to diseasels 21:50:29 <andythenorth> we can't just set a bit for powered tarmac? :P 21:50:37 <andythenorth> and same for tram track? 21:57:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19E3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:00:16 <andythenorth> I need to get rid of all this train crap :) 22:00:27 <andythenorth> my trucks are well over-complicated, they are made up of three parts :P 22:00:40 <planetmaker> o_O 22:02:22 <frosch123> night 22:02:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00b9fc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:02:50 <andythenorth> I think next I need to unwrite a lot of code 22:02:55 <andythenorth> maybe I should start from scratch :P 22:04:07 *** jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:50 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:41 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:17:00 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:18:07 <juzza1> always a good idea 22:18:28 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:18:59 <DorpsGek> Commit by zuu :: r26396 /trunk/src/script/api (11 files in 4 dirs) (2014-03-10 22:18:53 UTC) 22:19:00 <DorpsGek> -Add: [script] AI/GS APIs to get cargo waiting from/via other station 22:19:41 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:17 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC606F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:25:20 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C37DD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:29:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19E3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:47 *** Elukka [~Elukka@a91-152-213-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 22:34:36 *** jpierre03 [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 22:38:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:42:21 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:17 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like i just missed andy... 22:44:44 <Eddi|zuHause> <Pikka> I think of trams as being buses, but if you want to think of them as light rail, I suppose it's reasonable :P <-- a tram typically replace 3 busses 22:45:35 <Eddi|zuHause> also, don't just consider seats, consider seats+standing for capacity 22:48:28 <Eddi|zuHause> my CETS capacities per tile are 80/100/150 (express/normal/commuter), trams usually being narrower than trains should be something less than the commuter one, so 100-120 sounds reasonable 22:48:56 <Eddi|zuHause> 80 is the capacity of the default trains 22:49:18 <Eddi|zuHause> (two wagons of 40 capacity fit on one tile) 22:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> for road vehicles you could use something like 60/90/120 (long-distance bus/city bus/tram) 22:54:20 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p4FC600BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:58:11 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:980:272e:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 23:04:55 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest2856 23:04:56 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@89.204.137.128] has joined #openttd 23:07:33 *** Zuu [~Zuu@ns.sdrf.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AA42.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:33 *** Guest2856 [~frank@p4FC600BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:52 *** fjb_mobile is now known as Guest2857 23:12:53 *** fjb_mobile [~frank@p5DE57F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:18:23 *** Guest2857 [~frank@89.204.137.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:01 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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