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00:00:02 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:04:14 *** THUNDERHORSE [~SpaG@5.20.201.206] has joined #openttd 01:37:37 *** MJP_ [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 01:42:10 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44:13 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:58:34 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:11:45 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:14:13 *** MJP_ [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:49 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.52.234] has quit [Quit: www.AdiIRC.com - All my movements are coldly calculated.] 02:35:18 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.43.135.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:03 *** George|2 [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 03:50:03 *** George is now known as Guest1018 03:50:03 *** George|2 is now known as George 03:52:39 *** Guest1018 [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:12:03 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:49:54 <jA_cOp> Is there a keyboard shortcut to close news popups? 04:50:06 <Sylf> del 04:51:35 <jA_cOp> thanks 04:51:49 <jA_cOp> I wish cloning a vehicle would make their orders shared :( 04:52:05 <Sylf> hold the ctrl key when you clone vehicles 04:52:15 <jA_cOp> o 04:52:16 <jA_cOp> nice 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5727.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:03:10 <jA_cOp> I've got some tankers who seem unable to traverse a lock. Do they need more space or something? https://i.imgur.com/9kIT2kY.png 05:03:15 <jA_cOp> They're just circling in the sea there 05:12:34 <Supercheese> maybe try using a buoy 05:12:44 <Supercheese> can help with routing 05:54:07 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:33 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16:18 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:d06a:edd1:6dd0:f61e] has joined #openttd 06:39:57 <Rubidium> jA_cOp: I think the corner is too tight just above the lock 06:42:22 <jA_cOp> They eventually managed to get up when I wasn't looking, but then they got stuck up there :( I think I just need to spam bouys 06:43:02 <jA_cOp> When I get messages about my buses getting old, what's the best way to renew them? I want to preserve the route if possible 06:44:27 <Sylf> There is an autorenew function 06:45:05 <Sylf> You may need to enable it in the advanced setting 06:47:48 <Supercheese> Yes, https://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Vehicles#Autorenew 06:49:23 <jA_cOp> thanks 06:56:19 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:57:42 <Supercheese> It is still somewhat disconcerting that advanced settings help strings have no trailing punctuation... 06:58:10 <Supercheese> Even though multi-sentence help strings have punctuation after all earlier sentences 06:58:59 <Supercheese> not a game-breaking deal, of course 07:04:40 <V453000> http://xkcd.com/722/ 07:04:43 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 07:16:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6BA58.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:18:50 <FLHerne> V453000: The solution to that is https://xkcd.com/1024/ 07:24:36 <V453000> :d 07:24:41 <V453000> NO. 07:40:29 <FLHerne> Well, otherwise it's the Turtle one 08:04:28 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:06:23 *** namad7 [~aaaaa@pool-74-111-111-176.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:12:46 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:21:09 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:36:50 <jA_cOp> Can I somehow delete just a portion of a station without deleting all of it? Like just a bus stop at an airport? 08:39:39 <V453000> press R 08:39:47 <V453000> when you have the station tool topen 08:39:58 <V453000> just a bus stop should be removable by a dynamite simply 08:41:38 <jA_cOp> ah thanks, right, forgot about the bulldozer :P 08:41:48 <jA_cOp> R is a handy shortcut to know 08:42:44 *** unknown8970 [569cc5c2@78.129.202.38] has joined #openttd 08:42:47 <unknown8970> hi 08:43:07 <unknown8970> hello 08:43:41 <unknown8970> anyone on? 08:44:25 *** unknown8970 [569cc5c2@78.129.202.38] has quit [] 08:46:43 <V453000> no 08:48:54 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:49:30 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:55:54 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:10:08 <peter1138> god damn 09:10:22 <peter1138> can we change the title game for 1.4.3? 09:10:28 <peter1138> the current one is WAY TOO FUCKING LOUD 09:10:39 <V453000> DEMOCRACY VOTED IT 09:11:28 <__ln__> YOU WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE PRODUCT MANAGER 09:11:29 <peter1138> yeah, and cunts vote for right wing fascists too 09:13:53 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:05 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:12 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:15:35 *** Yexo [~Yexo@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:26:11 <Eddi|zuHause> <jA_cOp> Is there a keyboard shortcut to close news popups? <-- i would have said space bar... 09:41:36 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 09:41:41 <Celestar> :D 09:42:10 <__ln__> ave Celestar 09:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> reached the stars yet? 09:46:15 <Celestar> no, not yet :( 09:46:58 <Celestar> you? :P 09:47:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no realistic expectations of doing that :p 09:47:28 <peter1138> omg celestar 09:47:33 <Celestar> peeta :P 09:47:48 <Celestar> ... read the Hunger Games too often I guess 09:49:08 <Celestar> so how is everyone 09:50:07 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has joined #openttd 09:53:56 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:56:50 <peter1138> not bad 09:56:52 <peter1138> you? 09:58:43 <Celestar> fine, actually 10:00:55 <Celestar> just no coding :P 10:03:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 10:03:56 <andythenorth> Pikka: such horse 10:04:01 <andythenorth> such zellepins 10:09:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:13:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i think andy is on a downwards spiral... 10:16:27 <Xaroth|Work> sup Celestar 10:16:37 <Celestar> not much. 10:16:38 <Xaroth|Work> Eddi|zuHause: he's already halfway i think :| 10:16:38 <Celestar> lots of work 10:24:47 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 10:54:07 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 11:06:44 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 11:45:21 <Pikka> horses for courses 11:46:12 <V453000> hores use horse 11:50:23 <andythenorth> sore horse 11:50:26 <andythenorth> saw horse 11:50:28 <andythenorth> soar horse 11:51:29 <V453000> btw andythenorth , my issue was probably 100% offsets 11:51:50 <V453000> screw them up a bit and they wreck everything to shreds :D 11:51:54 <V453000> friendly fellows 11:52:23 <V453000> admittedly they werent exactly broken "a bit" 11:53:20 * Pikka ponders narrow gauge pineapples. But no, ships! and rails/stations! and houses! and trucks! 11:53:30 <Pikka> and industries! and planes! 11:54:52 <andythenorth> Pikka: mini pineapples https://cdn1.gbot.me/photos/3P/Ki/1296109722/Mini_Pineapple-Whole_Foods_Market___Lama-20000000001553540-500x375.jpg 11:55:04 <andythenorth> narrow gauge is compulsory imho 11:55:06 <Pikka> yes, those 11:55:13 <Pikka> but 11:55:14 <andythenorth> or at least something that isnât vanilla trains 11:55:24 <Pikka> what of trams? 11:55:52 <andythenorth> not the same 11:55:57 <andythenorth> trams are just early truckses 11:56:49 <Pikka> eh 11:56:57 <Pikka> well, it can go on the list 11:57:18 <V453000> simply put there EVERYTHING 12:01:27 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:01:27 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:07:33 <b_jonas> Pikka: stations, houses? do you already have terrain like grass and hard grass and stones and similar? 12:07:39 <b_jonas> and trees? 12:07:51 <Pikka> I have pretty crappy grass 12:08:23 <Pikka> that can be improved along the way. and of course I can just use default ground tiles so my tracks / stations / etc can blend in to whatever base set is used 12:10:48 <b_jonas> I see 12:10:57 <b_jonas> s/hard/rough/ 12:11:12 <andythenorth> zellepins? 12:11:14 <andythenorth> o_O 12:11:22 <andythenorth> also how big should a wine tanker be? 12:11:27 <andythenorth> 300k litres? 12:11:30 <Pikka> big enough to hold all the wine 12:11:30 <andythenorth> 500k ? 12:11:49 <andythenorth> the sprite I want to use is 500k 12:11:54 <andythenorth> the gameplay size should be 300k 12:11:56 <andythenorth> le sigh 12:12:18 <Pikka> I don't think wine is shipped in tanker ships 12:12:20 <Pikka> "realistically" 12:12:36 <Pikka> isn't there a 300k tanker inna fish also? 12:13:12 <andythenorth> inna 12:13:20 <Pikka> innit? 12:13:24 <andythenorth> I turned off whine refit for it 12:13:28 <andythenorth> I like edibles tankers 12:14:40 <andythenorth> http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1807633 12:15:52 <andythenorth> http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1240276 12:16:02 <Pikka> nice 12:16:03 <andythenorth> http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=9947 12:16:04 <Pikka> I'll take three 12:16:10 <andythenorth> plenty of wine 12:16:12 <andythenorth> or whine 12:16:14 <andythenorth> or milk 12:16:20 <andythenorth> donât mix the milk with the wine 12:17:40 <andythenorth> hmm 12:17:43 <andythenorth> no cider tankers 12:17:52 <Pikka> http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32828305 12:17:59 <lastmikoi> wine... tanker? 12:18:05 <Pikka> wine tanker causes riots, apparently 12:18:17 <Pikka> plz add disaster to OTDD. 12:18:21 <andythenorth> although also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-27895875 12:18:25 <andythenorth> and http://www.burnhamanddmrc.org/100_1858.JPG 12:18:40 <andythenorth> thatchers diesel 12:19:00 <andythenorth> because it looks like diesel http://www.christchurchfestival.co.uk/Album/Pictures%202006/slides/The%20Diesel%20(Cider).jpg 12:19:15 <lastmikoi> I hope - even though I'm pretty much convinced it does - that metal tank don't alter wine's taster 12:19:17 <lastmikoi> taste* 12:19:29 <lastmikoi> but I feel like storing wine like oil is a bad thing. 12:20:07 <andythenorth> I think for the kind of sauv. blanc shipped in them, itâs probably fine 12:20:13 <andythenorth> these will be 4.99 bottles 12:20:39 <andythenorth> Pikka: good news that you can now drink Thatchers though, eh? 12:21:28 <Pikka> perhaps! I would have thought rekorderlig had the ridiculously-overpriced imported cider market sewn up, though. 12:32:38 <andythenorth> 400k litres seems about right 12:32:46 <andythenorth> maybe this one is a realism innit http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1646593 12:36:07 <Pikka> yes 12:43:14 <peter1138> that glowing orange drink is cider? 12:43:27 <andythenorth> it may not have reached the north yet 12:43:29 <andythenorth> but yes 12:43:35 <andythenorth> best eaten with cheese 12:43:53 <peter1138> i'm not north 12:44:35 * andythenorth is sometimes north 12:45:06 <Pikka> andyt'north? 12:45:33 <andythenorth> flat cap, whippet 12:46:04 <Pikka> aye 12:46:40 <andythenorth> need a name for this boot 12:46:57 <Pikka> wine tanker? 12:47:22 <andythenorth> yup 12:47:29 <andythenorth> preferably named after a sea area or something 12:47:31 <andythenorth> or a river 12:47:46 <andythenorth> provence? 12:47:51 <andythenorth> probably 12:48:00 <Pikka> possibly 12:48:50 <Pikka> better than cabbage tree creek 12:49:25 <andythenorth> only slightly 12:49:51 <Pikka> or even little cabbage tree creek 12:50:03 <andythenorth> big and small versions 12:53:05 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:20 <Pikka> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Kedron_omnibus.jpg 12:55:26 <Pikka> horsebuses are bad features 12:55:58 <Pikka> fancy brakes, though 13:04:33 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 13:08:19 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 13:21:34 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.52.234] has joined #openttd 13:28:31 *** djura-san [~djura-san@93-87-149-33.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #openttd 13:29:18 <djura-san> Hm, i'm not sure if this is a bug or what but when .openttd/save is missing, the game wont create one for you. 13:29:21 <djura-san> :\ 13:29:37 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 13:48:41 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 13:55:27 <andythenorth> Pikka: borsehus 13:56:01 <Pikka> more or less 13:58:04 <Pikka> so you want a deck well and a cabin version of this hoverbus? 13:58:24 <Pikka> in 8bpp and pixelly and company colours? 13:58:46 <Pikka> and then maybe a bigger one? 13:59:31 <andythenorth> cabin hoverzep please 13:59:33 <andythenorth> pixelly 13:59:41 <andythenorth> well deck one can go in another roster too 13:59:46 <andythenorth> all the zellepins 13:59:49 <andythenorth> and a bigger one please 13:59:53 <andythenorth> really big one 13:59:53 <Pikka> you already have a deck one, isn't it? 14:01:08 <Pikka> http://www.griffonhoverwork.com/products-services/used-hovercraft.aspx could just buy a real one 14:01:42 <andythenorth> need more donations for that 14:01:50 <andythenorth> currently have donations total of £0 14:02:43 <andythenorth> I would like BHT 130 - Solent Express 14:02:45 <andythenorth> thanks 14:03:15 <Pikka> someone donated to my paypal account today 14:03:16 <andythenorth> please send it to me on a lorry 14:03:18 <Pikka> so we're on the way 14:03:26 <andythenorth> I could park it outside my office 14:03:31 <andythenorth> there is room on the street 14:03:37 <andythenorth> docks at the end of the road 14:04:07 <andythenorth> currently sprites for this one I have 14:04:08 <andythenorth> http://www.hoverpower.de/hovercraft_galerie/military_us/us_military_lacv/lacv30-3.jpg 14:04:17 <andythenorth> but itâs a bit lacking in coffee shops for pax 14:04:28 <Pikka> they go in the containers 14:04:32 <Pikka> coffeeshopcontainer 14:04:40 <andythenorth> coffeeshoptainer 14:04:46 <andythenorth> costatainer 14:04:51 <andythenorth> costa is a plague 14:04:56 <andythenorth> theyâre even invading tescos 14:04:59 <andythenorth> itâs dreadful 14:05:00 <Pikka> a plague 14:05:04 <Pikka> on both your coffeeshops 14:05:10 <andythenorth> my nice local tesco is being invaded by some horrible chain 14:05:16 <Pikka> yes 14:05:31 <andythenorth> hmm 14:05:38 <andythenorth> there might even be a roster with no zellepin ships 14:05:40 <andythenorth> shameful 14:05:48 <Pikka> costa is a coffee thing 14:05:58 <Pikka> I thought they were a cruise ship sinking company 14:06:06 <andythenorth> that too 14:06:27 <Pikka> or the best beard on television 14:07:10 <Pikka> http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/04/10/1226322/970073-switched-on-costa.jpg 14:07:37 <andythenorth> better than coffee 14:07:58 <Pikka> I wouldn't say that 14:08:02 <Pikka> possibly better than costa coffee 14:08:34 <andythenorth> itâs a plague 14:08:37 <andythenorth> or a plaque 14:08:39 <andythenorth> one of those 14:10:28 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 14:10:36 <Pikka> a plank 14:11:23 <andythenorth> a blank 14:12:54 <andythenorth> Pikka: HOVS rides again! https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6550/easywhealcargotruck_0.png 14:13:04 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6549/honistertipper_0.png 14:13:31 <Pikka> scary 14:19:18 *** djura-san [~djura-san@93-87-149-33.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:57 <Pikka> doongight 14:32:00 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32:10 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:35:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v Rubidium] by ChanServ 14:35:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 14:35:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v orudge] by ChanServ 14:45:55 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:46:08 <DanMacK> Hey all 14:47:34 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:45 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@179.177.164.197.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:54:13 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.52.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:15 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 14:55:33 <andythenorth> lo DanMacK 14:56:17 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 15:15:32 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:15:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:18:08 <__ln__> newgrf please: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/this-big-ol-passenger-plane-is-perfect-at-fighting-wildfires 15:23:37 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:34:48 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.58.116.88] has joined #openttd 15:38:46 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.177.164.197.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:48 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 15:45:27 *** Taede [~Taede@90.217.179.179] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:47 *** Taede [~Taede@90.217.179.179] has joined #openttd 15:47:39 <peter1138> damn, you still need to use quotes around the rcon command? :S 15:57:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v Alberth] by ChanServ 16:13:00 <andythenorth> is server game? 16:14:47 <peter1138> limitation disturbs me very sprites 16:14:53 <peter1138> goes it throw out limitation? 16:15:19 <andythenorth> out window goes it 16:15:30 <andythenorth> bathwater it with 16:16:24 <peter1138> 1http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=9817 16:16:26 <peter1138> -1 16:17:02 <peter1138> it's funny because all the answers are wrong, including from the dev... 16:17:20 <peter1138> oh hey, we missed that post's 10th birthday 16:19:33 <andythenorth> send it a cake 16:21:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:16 <Eddi|zuHause> throw a party 16:26:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:29 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.98.114.52] has joined #openttd 16:30:06 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:06 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.116.88] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:09 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 16:33:18 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 16:59:42 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d44a:6bf0:9dd0:a026] has joined #openttd 17:00:40 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@103.105.125.91.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:38 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@213.162.127.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:38 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 17:05:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01fa6e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:18 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 17:13:56 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F50.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:13:58 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 17:15:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B385.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:16:15 *** THUNDERHORSE [~SpaG@5.20.201.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:16:31 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:32 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-63-51.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:46 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:58 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:38:34 <Eddi|zuHause> <peter1138> damn, you still need to use quotes around the rcon command? :S <-- i have a patch for that 17:41:08 *** Prof_Frink is now known as Guest16 17:41:09 *** Guest16 is now known as Prof_Frink 17:45:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26843 /trunk/src/lang (ukrainian.txt welsh.txt) (2014-09-17 17:45:37 UTC) 17:45:46 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:47 <DorpsGek> ukrainian - 25 changes by Strategy 17:45:48 <DorpsGek> welsh - 8 changes by kazzie 17:52:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26844 trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel/sqcompiler.cpp (2014-09-17 17:52:50 UTC) 17:52:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix: clang compile error 17:54:41 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx_vWkv50uk 17:58:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:59 <Wolf01> hi o/ 18:04:05 <__ln__> http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/09/the-little-known-soviet-mission-to-rescue-a-dead-space-station/ 18:05:49 <Wolf01> __ln__, what do you think? (italian weird stuff inside) http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cultura/assessora-e-avvocata-grammatica-paritaria-1052162.html 18:08:37 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 18:09:58 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:12:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5727.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 18:16:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~EddizuHau@p57BD5727.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:21:27 <andythenorth> o/ 18:21:36 <Wolf01> o/ 18:22:17 <__ln__> Wolf01: i'm kind of getting the point, but i lack some grammar and vocabulary for figuring out why it is the point. 18:24:30 <Wolf01> in substance the femminism mevement in Italy is not about the parity of genders, but to have more rights, and now some of them are blaming the grammar which looks as it's discriminating the gender 18:24:53 <Wolf01> *movement 18:25:39 <andythenorth> language is power etc 18:27:41 <__ln__> Wolf01: italy should consider switching to finnish. 18:28:28 <frosch123> you think wales would switch to scottish? 18:33:49 <andythenorth> wales is scottish 18:33:52 <andythenorth> you should know that 18:33:59 <andythenorth> will it be chips? 18:34:05 <andythenorth> or something else 18:34:24 <michi_cc> Wolf01: Welcome to the GermanInnen language :p 18:34:33 <andythenorth> michi_cc did you see my offer of macs? 18:34:47 <andythenorth> theyâre crappy, but I have two that get freecycled or whatever if no ottd dev wants them 18:34:55 <andythenorth> is fonsinchen back yet? 18:35:52 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26845 /trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/squirrel (3 files) (2014-09-17 18:35:45 UTC) 18:35:53 <DorpsGek> -Fix [Squirrel]: more uninitialized variables in constructors 18:35:57 <michi_cc> A bit pointless if I don't even find time for any kind of proper OTTD development. I have too many unfinished patches and repos around as it is. 18:36:17 <andythenorth> familiar tale :) 18:36:56 * andythenorth only has time for improper development 18:37:01 <andythenorth> but it seems to work 18:40:04 <peter1138> you can send one to me if you want 18:40:40 <peter1138> do they exhibit ottd bugs? heh 18:40:56 <andythenorth> they might 18:41:06 <andythenorth> pm me an address in the forums 18:41:16 <andythenorth> they have [spec] itâs not great 18:41:27 <andythenorth> I bet you end up wiping it and putting linux on it :P 18:41:42 <peter1138> no i have a linux laptop 18:41:46 <peter1138> although it's old 18:43:08 <andythenorth> donât think it has any OS disks, but it has clean install on it 18:43:20 <peter1138> alright 18:43:38 <peter1138> i can presumably do a disk dump to back it up 18:43:43 <andythenorth> yeah 18:44:09 <andythenorth> usually with this https://www.bombich.com/download.html 18:44:52 <peter1138> or something like dd if=/dev/... of=/path/on/nas :D 18:45:03 <peter1138> ooh, genesis on the radio, heh 18:45:20 <andythenorth> follow you, follow me 18:45:35 <peter1138> nah, it's i know what i like 18:45:40 <peter1138> one of the more proggier ones 18:45:50 <peter1138> although less proggy than really proggy 18:45:52 <peter1138> hmm 18:46:04 <andythenorth> 1 mac down, 1 to go 18:46:20 <peter1138> my main hdd died, along with all my patches 18:46:21 <peter1138> but! 18:46:36 <peter1138> i had an archive of stuff 18:46:42 <peter1138> so i have most them 18:46:46 <peter1138> locks! 18:46:47 <peter1138> larks! 18:47:42 <peter1138> i ought to watch that again 18:49:45 <andythenorth> everyone here is just someone I work with in disguise 18:49:57 <andythenorth> there are only so many kinds of developer :P 18:50:48 <andythenorth> Peter Gabriel 18:50:48 <andythenorth> hmm 18:52:30 <peter1138> i'm not him 18:54:06 <andythenorth> he lives on Solsbury Hill 18:54:08 <andythenorth> or the frontier 18:54:22 <andythenorth> but theyâve come to take him home 18:54:40 <andythenorth> we nearly recorded a film soundtrack in his studio but then we didnât 18:54:42 <andythenorth> cool story bro 18:55:08 <peter1138> there is no frontier 18:55:17 <andythenorth> nor spoon 18:55:30 <peter1138> it is sans frontiers, after all 18:58:58 <andythenorth> jeux 19:14:29 <peter1138> games 19:14:31 <peter1138> without 19:14:34 <peter1138> frontiers, yes 19:14:44 <peter1138> i don't have all his catalogue though :( 19:17:34 <andythenorth> I should alias git pish 19:17:44 <andythenorth> I think itâs what they do in scotland on fridays 19:17:50 <andythenorth> they / some people 19:19:54 <Wolf01> how do I remove a caboose when upgrading 100+ trains (any type of cargo)? 19:22:30 <Wolf01> dualheaded steam engines... one head the engine+tender, the other a caboose 19:23:09 <peter1138> cry 19:23:29 <andythenorth> cry 19:23:32 <andythenorth> start again 19:23:37 <andythenorth> donât cabeese 19:23:43 <peter1138> hmm, is 240MB good for 9 minutes of video? 19:23:46 <andythenorth> replace cabeese to another wagon type 19:23:52 <andythenorth> oh wait, thatâs impossible to do ;P 19:23:52 <peter1138> dvd -> h264 19:24:02 <andythenorth> sounds quite good, who are you emailing it to? 19:24:13 <peter1138> i'm emailing it to my nas 19:25:51 <peter1138> hmm, well, the chapter break is at the wrong point :S 19:26:09 <Wolf01> I could just try with a longer engine and hope the wagon removal will remove it 19:27:58 <peter1138> yeah, i don't know which end removal works from 19:29:20 <fonsinchen> andythenorth, I'm here 19:29:46 <peter1138> oh, it's not in the wrong place, this dvd isn't episodic, as i thought 19:30:53 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:31:51 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: Iâm giving away macbooks, theyâre quite old, 2008 or so, not a great spec, running 10.6.8 - happy to ship you one if you want it 19:31:53 <andythenorth> or say no ;) 19:32:51 <peter1138> my work laptop is a 2002 model 19:32:57 <peter1138> oddly enough, it's rather shit 19:33:08 <fonsinchen> Hmm, you'll expect me to fix all the Mac OS bugs if I take it 19:33:13 <fonsinchen> brrrrr .... 19:33:21 <andythenorth> he :) 19:33:40 <andythenorth> there are no OS X bugs that bother me, except the ~ console bug 19:33:48 <andythenorth> michi just fixed one really important one 19:33:54 <andythenorth> the game just works for me :P 19:33:59 <andythenorth> as long as someone maintains the compile 19:34:23 <fonsinchen> On the other hand, you probably can't run anything above 10.7 on that thing 19:35:33 * fonsinchen looks at FlySpray 19:35:45 <andythenorth> yeah, itâs stuck on 10.6.8 19:35:55 <andythenorth> thereâs a reason theyâre free ;) 19:45:21 <fonsinchen> We actually don't have that many serious OSX specific problems ... FS#6087 , FS#6043 , FS#5889 , FS5812 , FS#5797 (which requires 10.9 to fix), and FS#5100 (which is probably outdated) 19:45:31 <fonsinchen> am I missing anything 19:45:34 <fonsinchen> ? 19:45:55 <frosch123> michi fixed a lot 19:46:23 <fonsinchen> oh, FS#5694 but we already know that this is the build farm creating broken ICUs 19:48:56 <fonsinchen> andythenorth: OK, I'll take that thing and then I'll have a stab at above bugs. 19:49:16 <andythenorth> fonsinchen: pm me an address in the forums, Iâll ship it to you 19:49:18 <andythenorth> no warranty :) 19:49:28 <andythenorth> you can always put linux on it :P 19:51:29 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 19:55:44 <andythenorth> wrong channel, but anyone give me a clue how to pass multiple args to this? 19:55:45 <andythenorth> lessc --modify-var="foo=bar" foo.less 19:55:51 <andythenorth> âmodify-var needs multiple vars 19:56:11 <andythenorth> github comment for the tool suggests itâs possible 19:56:27 <andythenorth> Iâve tried spaces, multiple declarations of the arg, separators blah 19:57:11 <andythenorth> this is the commit https://github.com/less/less.js/pull/1655/files 19:59:08 <blathijs> andythenorth: Aren't you supposed to just give the option multiple times? 20:00:13 <andythenorth> yeah that works 20:00:19 <andythenorth> I tried it, but my test file had errors 20:00:30 <andythenorth> the compiler was defending me from them, but I misunderstood it :P 20:01:30 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 20:01:35 <blathijs> hehe 20:06:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:07:05 *** Prof_Frink is now known as Guest7 20:15:06 *** argoneus [~oftc-webi@ip-89-102-27-91.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 20:15:11 <argoneus> hello 20:15:16 <argoneus> I've got two questions 20:15:32 <argoneus> 1, why not freenode? 2, does anyone here understand how the "ctrl click on start date to spread vehicles out" works? 20:16:11 <frosch123> 1. been there, came here 20:16:32 <frosch123> 2. make sure everything is timetabled, then ctrl+click it once, and wait 20:16:53 <argoneus> what do you mean "everything is timetabled"? 20:17:00 <argoneus> so if I have 40 buses in a city and I want to spread them out 20:17:04 <frosch123> all loading times and all travel tiems 20:17:04 <argoneus> I need to do a separate timetable? 20:17:15 <andythenorth> you can make one 20:17:19 <andythenorth> and then watch it not work 20:17:20 <frosch123> well, the vehicles need to share orders ofc 20:17:33 <argoneus> so basically 20:17:39 <argoneus> first I let one bus roam through the city 20:17:47 <argoneus> and adapt my timetable 20:17:51 <argoneus> and then I ctrl click start date? 20:17:54 <frosch123> yes 20:18:12 <argoneus> and if I want to add even just one new bus 20:18:15 <argoneus> I need to do all this again>? 20:18:22 <andythenorth> I should file a bug report showing that it doesnât work for ships 20:18:31 <frosch123> well, you do not need to fill the timetable a second time 20:18:36 <frosch123> just ctrl+click start again 20:19:01 <argoneus> ahh 20:19:02 <argoneus> nice 20:19:03 <argoneus> thanks 20:21:27 <frosch123> you can also start all the busses at once, no need to let one finish the trip first 20:21:35 <frosch123> they will align later after you set the start date 20:25:40 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@187.58.244.202] has joined #openttd 20:25:52 <argoneus> we 20:25:54 <argoneus> well 20:25:56 <argoneus> I ran into a problem 20:26:04 <argoneus> the bus that should be earlier is stuck behind a slower one in the loop 20:26:15 <argoneus> so the one in the front is on time 20:26:18 <argoneus> but the one behind is always late 20:26:21 <argoneus> so they always go together 20:26:30 <frosch123> then ctrl+click again 20:26:42 <argoneus> ctrl click on the first one? 20:26:51 <argoneus> err 20:26:51 <frosch123> it orders the veihcle relative to their lateness and position 20:26:54 <argoneus> >loop >first one 20:27:33 <frosch123> you can also reset lateness times for busses to change their order 20:27:44 <frosch123> and then ctrl+click starttime again 20:28:26 <frosch123> basically make the busses run somewhat on time and in order, and then use the starttime to align them equidistantr 20:31:50 <argoneus> okay 20:31:52 <argoneus> that works 20:31:55 <argoneus> but whenever they go for maintenance 20:31:57 <argoneus> it screws up again 20:32:18 <argoneus> :( 20:32:19 <frosch123> use forced service 20:32:26 <argoneus> forced service? 20:32:28 <frosch123> then you can timetable the servicing 20:32:30 <argoneus> as in, all will go at the same time? 20:32:33 <argoneus> oh 20:32:34 <argoneus> like that 20:32:36 <frosch123> add the depot to the order list 20:32:43 <argoneus> is there a simple way to do 20:32:45 <frosch123> and make them visit every time, not only when service is needed 20:32:47 <argoneus> "do this circuit 3 times, then go to depot" 20:32:47 <argoneus> ? 20:33:11 <argoneus> if I have a line of 20 stations, I don't really want to copy the orders 20:33:16 <frosch123> you put the depot in the order list like a busstop 20:33:41 <frosch123> why "every 3 times"? just "every time" 20:39:21 <argoneus> okay 20:39:24 <argoneus> it works now 20:39:28 <argoneus> sometimes one or two still bunch up together 20:39:33 <argoneus> also, I need to give it some leeway right 20:39:38 <argoneus> as in, if it says that it takes 35 days to complete 20:39:44 <argoneus> then the start date should be about 40 days away? 20:41:45 <frosch123> yeah, it's complicated to maintain :p 20:41:56 <frosch123> personally i only use half-timetabled shedules 20:42:07 <frosch123> that is, only timetable the loading times, not the travel times 20:42:20 <argoneus> is that viable? 20:42:30 <argoneus> I mean, how does it work for you? 20:42:51 <frosch123> it prevents vehicles from clumping, but is not as fragile as complete timetables 20:43:12 <frosch123> the idea behind it is: 20:43:31 <frosch123> if vehicles are not timetables, the first vehicle to arrive takes all cargo 20:43:55 <frosch123> if it happens that one vehicle arrives just behind it, it will also just leave immediately because there is no cargo to load 20:44:14 <frosch123> enforcing a minimum loading time via a timetable fixes that 20:44:39 <frosch123> the vehicles will not keep an exact distance, but imho that is not particulary important 20:46:17 <argoneus> so basically 20:46:23 <argoneus> all vehicles will wait in a station for the same time 20:47:01 <frosch123> ah, wait, i missed one piece in the puzzle :p 20:47:12 <frosch123> the stations need to be short enough, so only one vehicle can load 20:47:29 <frosch123> so, if they clump up, the second vehicle has to wait before the first one leaves 20:47:40 <frosch123> and then will load for x days until it follows 20:47:40 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:d06a:edd1:6dd0:f61e] has quit [Quit: .] 20:47:47 <frosch123> so, distance is always at least x days 20:48:47 <frosch123> because the traveling times are not timetabled, it will not adjust the loading time to catch up or anything 20:48:48 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 20:48:50 <frosch123> but always do x days 20:49:28 <frosch123> it's kind of like "full load", but with a timespan instead of a loading factor 20:49:37 <argoneus> hmm 20:49:46 <argoneus> I'll just try doing autofill 20:49:52 <argoneus> and then I'll ctrl click start date 20:49:58 <argoneus> and if there are minor problems, it should be ok 20:50:13 <frosch123> even if you do autofill, you should always add 1 or 2 days to all loading times 20:50:37 <frosch123> else it has never a chance to catch up, if something slows it 20:50:40 <argoneus> loading or travels? 20:51:03 <frosch123> doesn't matter, i think setting loading is easier, since you can just type the same number everywhere 20:52:02 <argoneus> hm, true 20:52:11 <argoneus> any idea how long it takes for a bus to full load? 20:52:17 <argoneus> assuming there's infinite people in the station 20:52:33 <frosch123> depends on the newgrf :) 20:52:39 <argoneus> I'm using FIRS with cargodist 20:52:39 <argoneus> :< 20:52:46 <argoneus> and opengfx+ road vehicles 20:52:50 <argoneus> not sure if any of those matter 20:53:01 <frosch123> anyway, just try 20:54:51 <argoneus> alright 20:54:52 <argoneus> thanks 20:58:05 <argoneus> also 20:58:10 <argoneus> why didn't anyone tell me passengers were really great 20:58:20 <argoneus> a train network between cities 20:58:23 <argoneus> a few bus stations in each 20:58:28 <argoneus> ==== free money and super quick growth 20:59:40 *** ST2 [~ST2@118.107.136.95.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:57 <peter1138> dunno 21:01:04 <peter1138> some people prefer doing cargo? 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