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[~lauri@cable-tku-58c3cb-155.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:42:49 <argoneus> ayy 09:52:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:52:52 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@88-148-183-199.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:02 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@88-148-183-199.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:56:30 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:56:58 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:57:17 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:59 <supermop> yo 10:10:27 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 10:15:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:27 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:43 <AMDmi3> hi 11:12:29 <AMDmi3> openttd fails to build with freetype 2.5.4 11:12:42 <AMDmi3> bug: https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6185 fix: https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6185/getfile/10051/openttd-fontcache.patch 11:16:37 <AMDmi3> or, better, https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6185/getfile/10052/openttd-fontcache.patch 11:27:42 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:34:32 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AE8A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:00:41 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@66.36.189.80.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 12:07:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@78.189.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:18 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 12:15:41 <planetmaker> AMDmi3, is fretype 2.5.4 somewhat newer than ~/ottd/trunk$ freetype-config --version 12:15:41 <planetmaker> 14.1.8 12:15:54 <planetmaker> there seem to be different versioning schemes then? 12:18:04 <AMDmi3> hm, yes, it seems to use some weird version in freetype-config 12:18:18 <AMDmi3> mine is 17.3.11 12:19:09 <argoneus> mine is 6.1.15 12:19:37 <planetmaker> meh, funky versions 12:19:41 <AMDmi3> freetype-config sources say it's some libtool version of the library. not sure what that means, it's not .so version either 12:19:45 <argoneus> I'm just pulling your leg 12:19:56 <argoneus> I don't know what version I have, but it's funny how you have three different versions 12:19:56 <AMDmi3> however what you want is freetype-config --ftversion 12:20:14 <planetmaker> argoneus, funny. very. 12:20:29 <argoneus> but you're probably getting the wrong version 12:20:39 <argoneus> a different one* 12:21:05 <planetmaker> interesting, AMDmi3. I wonder whether we should in config rather check for that than --version 12:22:25 <planetmaker> however your patch compiles for me fine. Just find the versioning of freetype confusing. Obviously :) 12:23:26 <AMDmi3> well freetype-config --version output doesn't seem to be used in config.lib, so it likely does not matter 12:24:23 <AMDmi3> but if it so happens that you'll need to check for freetype version to e.g. conditionally compile code, you'll need to use --ftversion, yes 12:25:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r27079 /trunk (findversion.sh src/fontcache.cpp) (2014-12-11 12:25:53 UTC) 12:25:57 <DorpsGek> -Fix: Compilation with freetype2 version 2.5.4 and newer (AMDmi3) 12:26:13 <argoneus> that was fast 12:26:41 <planetmaker> ups... something more slipped in :D. But good... I forgot about that and it should be there :) 12:27:07 <planetmaker> AMDmi3, no, having one code path for all is easier to read like you did. Thanks for the patch 12:27:23 <planetmaker> I just wondered about the versions you quoted :) 12:27:30 <planetmaker> and I forgot to mention the FS entry :S 12:28:33 <AMDmi3> thanks for merging! 12:28:46 <planetmaker> no worries. It's your work, Thanks for it :) 12:29:06 <planetmaker> you should find it in 1.4.5 and / or 1.5.0-beta1 soonish 12:29:16 <planetmaker> dunno which we will release :) 12:29:30 <planetmaker> probably the latter 12:30:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 12:32:51 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.180.223.208] has joined #openttd 12:43:43 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 12:48:02 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-166-216.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:56:47 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@179.177.174.95.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 13:01:13 <argoneus> planetmaker: also sorry :< 13:01:24 <argoneus> I didn't mean to be rude 13:01:42 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.180.223.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:48 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 13:23:12 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:06 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.54.12] has joined #openttd 13:49:17 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:31 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:39 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:15:08 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:20 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has joined #openttd 14:26:41 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:27:38 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.54.12] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50:35 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:52:20 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 14:57:22 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:08:37 <argoneus> if you guys could uninvent any programming language (and all existing things would magically rewrite themselves to something you deem more appropriate), which would it be? 15:09:50 <andythenorth> javascript 15:10:04 <andythenorth> easy 15:10:10 <argoneus> what would you rewrite existing JS things to? 15:10:17 <andythenorth> python 15:10:21 <andythenorth> also easy 15:10:29 <argoneus> so all browsers would have a python interpreter built in? 15:10:33 <argoneus> that'd be actually pretty neat 15:10:34 <andythenorth> imagine the madness 15:10:47 <andythenorth> and ârestrictedâ python isn't 15:10:52 <andythenorth> Iâm told 15:10:58 <andythenorth> by people who have tried 15:12:10 <peter1138> php would go 15:12:13 <peter1138> along with go 15:12:18 <peter1138> and java 15:12:26 <peter1138> pascal 15:12:33 <peter1138> any of the stupid languages 15:12:38 <peter1138> and german 15:12:44 <peter1138> oh, that's just a language 15:13:07 <andythenorth> you need to keep php 15:13:15 <andythenorth> itâs a filter for bad programmers when hiring 15:13:23 <argoneus> is putting php on your cv actually bad 15:13:24 <andythenorth> itâs fairly reliable 15:13:32 <andythenorth> only having PHP on your cv is bad 15:13:37 <argoneus> my cv says c++, java, python, perl 15:13:44 <argoneus> and from all those I realistically know... none of them 15:13:47 <andythenorth> anyone with any instinct does not spend all their time in PHP 15:14:05 <andythenorth> PHP conversely is probably the most easily get-hired-for language 15:14:12 <andythenorth> due to epic scale of useage 15:14:30 <argoneus> not that much anymore I hear 15:14:34 <andythenorth> eh? 15:14:34 <argoneus> java/ruby/python are in these days 15:14:39 <argoneus> also new things like clojure 15:14:43 <andythenorth> most of the internet is PHP 15:14:51 <argoneus> but most of new websites aren't php 15:14:52 <argoneus> or are they 15:14:53 * argoneus shrugs 15:14:53 <andythenorth> thereâs always a latest âinâ thing on blogs 15:15:00 <andythenorth> but meanwhile PHP 15:15:01 <andythenorth> everywhere 15:15:22 <andythenorth> it goes in cycles of whoâs doing tech talks and videos 15:15:27 <andythenorth> so something looks cool for a bit 15:15:30 <andythenorth> but reality is, PHP 15:15:42 <andythenorth> bearing in mind that Wordpress is PHP 15:15:47 <andythenorth> and most of the internet is Wordpress 15:15:56 <andythenorth> followed by Drupal, also PHP 15:16:27 <peter1138> haskell 15:16:32 <andythenorth> to keep or remove? 15:16:35 <peter1138> remove 15:16:51 <andythenorth> never used it 15:16:55 <andythenorth> has some fans though 15:17:12 <andythenorth> urgh 15:17:17 * andythenorth back to work 15:17:26 <andythenorth> writing python to provide json to javascript 15:17:36 <argoneus> also I just realized 15:17:40 <argoneus> why do languages use regex 15:17:45 <argoneus> is it difficult to write a context-free language parser? 15:17:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 15:18:06 <argoneus> you can't match things like "a string of a's and b's where there's more a's than b's" with regex 15:18:50 <peter1138> Languages don't tend to use regexes. 15:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: it's easy to write a context free parser, but it's more time consuming to run them, that's why there's a lexer before the parser 15:20:48 <argoneus> o 15:20:53 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: it reduces the size of the input data to tokens instead of characters 15:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause> which again simplifies your grammar rules 15:22:46 <Eddi|zuHause> by splitting the two you get "the best of both worlds" 15:57:18 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:15 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has joined #openttd 16:04:18 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:18 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 16:10:06 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:20 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:20:39 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:08 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:19 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:42:30 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:42:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:43:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d010911.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:45:47 <Alberth> hai 16:59:59 <frosch123> hola 17:06:29 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:25 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 17:29:10 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has joined #openttd 17:31:00 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 17:34:00 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:10 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:04 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:45:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27080 trunk/src/lang/latin.txt (2014-12-11 17:45:32 UTC) 17:45:37 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:38 <DorpsGek> latin - 2 changes by Supercheese 17:47:51 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47:59 <frosch123> haha, so he actually succeeded in breaking it again :p 17:48:39 <frosch123> why is it an hour early though? 17:48:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i asked that myself yesterday as well 17:49:02 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:20 <frosch123> has it been like that for 6 weeks and noone noticed? :p 17:50:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah 17:50:39 <Eddi|zuHause> [Samstag, 25. Oktober 2014] [19:45:30] <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27042 trunk/src/lang/irish.txt (2014-10-25 17:45:23 UTC) 17:50:41 <Eddi|zuHause> [Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2014] [18:46:25] <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27045 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2014-10-26 17:46:16 UTC) 17:51:11 <Eddi|zuHause> clear sign that openttd is dieing :p 17:51:58 <__ln__> not dying fortunately 17:52:59 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, update for portal? how did that happen? 17:53:17 *** skeleton [~Befree@141.156.35.213.sta.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 17:54:30 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:54:59 <Eddi|zuHause> or did they put an easteregg in it for an upcoming portal 3? :p 17:56:00 <Jinassi> There is a cake now in it, has HL3 written with marzipan on it and release date on bottom. 17:56:01 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: .] 17:56:25 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:56:33 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:27 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:31 <argoneus> ayy 18:05:10 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 18:07:13 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:15:23 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:20 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 18:31:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AE8A.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:33:46 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3BE6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:36:49 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:01 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:01 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has joined #openttd 18:47:17 *** AMDmi3 [~AMDmi3@95.108.173.93-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has quit [Quit: #!/bin/rm] 18:49:47 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:48 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:58:32 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 19:08:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:10:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-23-dynamic.54-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:11:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:22 <andythenorth> o/ 19:11:35 <andythenorth> Alberth: nice screenshot ;) 19:11:52 <Wolf01> o/ 19:12:40 <Alberth> yeah, one of the advantages of not having money, you try to build as cheap as possible :p 19:12:47 <Alberth> hi Wolf01 19:13:38 <Wolf01> really? In Italy seem it doesn't work as you said 19:14:17 <Alberth> the farms also produce live stock, but I don't think the network can handle twice as many engines :) 19:15:08 <Alberth> Wolf01: too much political ambition? 19:15:45 <Wolf01> mmh updating phpstorm with my powerful adsl (2.3Mbps) takes forever :| 19:15:46 <Alberth> is iron horse supposed to be in balance with road hog? steam trams are quite hopeless compared to the narrow gauge 19:16:30 <Alberth> a strong wind must be blowing in your adsl, stopping all the bits 19:17:39 <Wolf01> I'm more for "a strong technician messed up the wires again" 19:18:45 <Alberth> equally possible :) 19:19:45 <andythenorth> Alberth: yeah itâs supposed to be balanced, but I havenât tested much 19:20:07 <andythenorth> trams are definitely supposed to be less capable than narrow gauge, but not useless 19:20:24 <andythenorth> my goal is that itâs always obvious which one to pick 19:20:36 <andythenorth> but if the choice is always narrow gauge, Iâve screwed up :) 19:21:18 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:59 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/Hardenkum Transport, 1874-10-15.sav have a look at this 19:22:39 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has joined #openttd 19:23:55 <Alberth> 11 steam trams for 2 farms meat, and ~3 normal trains for grain, not to mention the narrow gauges of the screen shot a bit further up in the mountains 19:24:01 <peter1138> url with spaces ;( 19:24:23 * andythenorth looking 19:25:29 <andythenorth> yeah that looks about what Iâd expect 19:25:48 <Alberth> peter1138: all openttd generated 19:26:30 <andythenorth> trams are ~poor in 1870s 19:26:35 <andythenorth> they get a bit better later, but not a lot 19:26:44 <andythenorth> with RVs, progression is tricky 19:27:00 <Alberth> 7 narrow gauge for 4 farms grain 19:29:19 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 19:29:25 <andythenorth> are you going to build any more trams? 19:29:29 <andythenorth> or just trains? 19:31:29 *** skeleton [~Befree@141.156.35.213.sta.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:43 <Alberth> not sure how useful they are, at 32km/h anything longer distance than this is mostly useless 19:33:21 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: .] 19:33:22 <Alberth> I was just building the new line to the north; the northern part could be trams, I guess 19:33:38 <Alberth> sounds like fun to try :) 19:36:09 <Alberth> I do like the narrow gauge, cheap enough for short lines with many stations 19:36:25 <andythenorth> if it was my game Iâd use the narrow gauge 19:36:37 <Alberth> where? 19:36:47 <andythenorth> everywhere that wasnât high traffic 19:37:02 <andythenorth> Iâd only use trams for really short routes, or in cities 19:37:35 <Alberth> sounds like a good tactic 19:38:26 <Alberth> trams probably cannot handle moving that much alcohol :) 19:38:35 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:39 <andythenorth> I can never avoid planning ahead based on knowing the vehicle progression :P 19:39:53 <andythenorth> so I know when the good vehicles turn up for each route type 19:40:09 <andythenorth> because / so /s 19:44:33 <Alberth> you cannot randomize that in a newgrf? 19:57:19 <andythenorth> not trivially 19:57:30 <andythenorth> thereâs a ~17 year random intro date 20:01:35 <V453000> andythenorth: types of routes should then be vehicle classes, and you should have all of the important classes available from the start ;) 20:01:36 <V453000> CHOICE 20:01:51 <V453000> :D 20:03:12 <Alberth> randomize stats, then? 20:03:25 <V453000> XD 20:03:45 <V453000> actually quite a fun idea for RVs Alberth 20:04:37 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:37 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@10.87.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:05:04 <Alberth> you'd hate not knowing what train would be useful, wouldn't you? :) 20:05:38 <V453000> well trains are more complicated, if you got a bad random you could not really use it with the same train length/amount of engines etc 20:05:44 <V453000> probably 20:05:52 <V453000> but for RVs it could actually be a lot of fun 20:06:05 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@cpe-142-136-204-41.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:17 <V453000> if I ever do RVs then I will seriously consider something like that actually 20:06:31 <V453000> which I might if I want to make Everything Eventually 20:06:35 <V453000> tm 20:06:43 <Alberth> trams? :) 20:06:53 <V453000> wetrail trams? 20:06:59 <V453000> wettrams? 20:07:45 <Alberth> flying trams? 20:07:52 <V453000> xd 20:08:05 <V453000> not that, but wet tram tracks would actually be kind of cute 20:08:15 <V453000> nyway gnight :) 20:08:25 <Alberth> gn V :) 20:27:53 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:49 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 20:34:39 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:12 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 20:35:36 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:09 <argoneus> https://store.eu.square-enix.com/emea_europe/games/pc-windows-download/The-Square-Enix-Christmas-Surprise.php 20:37:12 <argoneus> what's in the box 20:39:05 <Eddi|zuHause> a surprise, apparently 20:39:24 <peter1138> £4.99 for something crap? 20:41:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see why i'd buy such a thing 20:41:40 <argoneus> because you like videogames 20:42:15 <Eddi|zuHause> if someone liked videogames, he'd like certain genres or types of games 20:42:44 <Eddi|zuHause> so there'd be a big chance that most of the games in a random offer would be crap 20:42:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and the rest are things you already have 20:43:12 <argoneus> yeah 20:43:18 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:57 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has joined #openttd 20:45:39 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 20:46:00 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 20:58:08 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 20:58:43 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [] 20:59:11 *** Hazzard_ [~Hazzard@207.163.165.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:25 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 21:00:42 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:20 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:51 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [SeaMonkey 2.30/20141101183419]] 21:05:00 <andythenorth> and your surprise isâŠdisappointment? 21:06:24 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 21:13:43 <andythenorth> oh dear 21:13:51 <andythenorth> forthcoming mod warning on lego forum for andythenorth 21:14:00 <andythenorth> really canât help it 21:14:04 <andythenorth> theyâre such fuckheads 21:16:55 <Wolf01> what happened? 21:18:46 <andythenorth> nothing 21:18:49 <andythenorth> they just whine 21:18:58 <andythenorth> itâs impossible for me not to troll them 21:19:24 <frosch123> did you complain that lego added some new special starwars pieces? 21:19:29 <andythenorth> I didnât no 21:19:31 <andythenorth> they did 21:19:43 <andythenorth> I only go there to see reviews of new sets 21:19:54 <andythenorth> but always constant whining about how Lego is dying 21:20:13 <frosch123> ah, so you complained that they praised a new set, though it was only a remake of one you had 30 years ago? 21:20:37 <andythenorth> oh you know my operating mode :( 21:20:41 <andythenorth> you have rumbled me 21:22:51 <andythenorth> swapping a single css class with jquery is fiddly :P 21:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> the first genuine lego i had was a TV truck 21:24:27 <andythenorth> was there easty lego? 21:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 21:24:54 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: this one? http://brickset.com/sets/6659-1/TV-Camera-Crew 21:25:31 <Eddi|zuHause> no 21:25:43 <andythenorth> http://brickset.com/sets/6661-1/Mobile-TV-Studio 21:25:54 <Eddi|zuHause> it was a blue-ish truck with antenna 21:26:24 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that looks more like it 21:26:34 <andythenorth> means you are 3-6 years younger than me 21:26:47 <andythenorth> at a guess 21:27:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, must have been in early 1990, meaning i was around 8 21:27:50 <andythenorth> 4 years younger 21:27:51 <Wolf01> one of the very first set I had: http://brickset.com/sets/6698-1/RV-with-Speedboat 21:28:03 <andythenorth> Wolf01: a classic :) 21:32:28 <Wolf01> then my cousin kindly gave me what was left of his sets 21:32:43 <Wolf01> now I have: http://rebrickable.com/profile/Wolf01/sets 21:33:47 <Wolf01> (I must admit I like to work just to purchase lego and videogames) 21:34:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't even touched lego in over a decade 21:34:58 <Wolf01> my coworker too, now we are wasting lots of money on them 21:36:11 <Eddi|zuHause> "Recently Roberto Orci has stepped away from directing Star Trek 3. This has prompted fans on Twitter and Facebook to trend #BringInRiker in an effort to get Jonathan Frakes to replace him. Frakes himself has apparently caught wind of it and is so psyched at the idea that's he's reached out to JJ Abrams who's still producing the film." 21:37:47 <Wolf01> ahah 21:38:11 <andythenorth> gah javascript 21:38:13 <andythenorth> hate it 21:43:54 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: huh?!? isn't that like 30 years old news? 21:44:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: they probably meant 13 :) 21:44:56 <Eddi|zuHause> and i missed a "we introduce new counting" era 21:46:54 <Rubidium> oh.. is that the clue 21:47:41 <Alberth> andythenorth: tank car unload speed is very high of Railway 21:49:05 <Alberth> as in, instantly :) 21:49:20 * andythenorth looks 21:49:42 <andythenorth> oh yeah 21:49:43 <andythenorth> 20 21:49:49 <andythenorth> and itâs 20t cap 21:49:54 <andythenorth> so is that 1 tick? 21:50:23 <Eddi|zuHause> it takes us about 30min to load a 20t truck, so unloading a 60t wagon is 1.5h 21:50:24 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@blfd-4d082e6c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:50:38 <Alberth> load speed is also high 21:51:51 <andythenorth> unload = load 21:52:21 <andythenorth> tank wagons are supposed to be quick, but thatâs excessive 21:52:34 <andythenorth> presumably thereâs no point setting fractional ticks? 21:52:44 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:01 <andythenorth> i.e. 20t wagon needs an integer component of 20? 5, 10, 20 21:53:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd probably set capacity/3 or something 21:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause> rounded up 21:53:33 <andythenorth> agreed 21:54:15 * andythenorth needs code review 21:54:16 <andythenorth> :P 21:54:22 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:39 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:38 <andythenorth> hurgh 21:59:54 <andythenorth> non-working javascript because of invisible âchars copied from stack overflow 21:59:57 <andythenorth> that will teach me to copy the codes 22:02:10 <Alberth> gn andy et al 22:02:16 <Wolf01> nn 22:02:20 <andythenorth> night 22:02:23 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 22:02:52 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:05:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d010911.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:14:02 <Eddi|zuHause> you seriously run copy-pasted code from a random website? 22:14:54 <Wolf01> why not? if there are people which tell you it's working, then it's right ;) 22:17:52 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:19:17 <andythenorth> we all seriously run who applications or operating systems from random websites 22:19:23 <andythenorth> whole * :) 22:19:32 <andythenorth> I run a random ottd 22:20:11 <andythenorth> and I let ports tools run with sudo, which bothers me :( 22:20:45 <andythenorth> pasting some css manipulation code to run into my browser definitely only needs the small size of tinfoil hat 22:21:19 *** Ektor [~david@nak11-h03-89-91-186-175.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openttd 22:23:14 <Ektor> hi everybody 22:23:54 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24:06 <Eddi|zuHause> hi, you dropped an H there. 22:37:56 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 22:38:02 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:38:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:49:15 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 22:50:15 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 22:59:59 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:4565:14f2:e323:2e30] has quit [Quit: .] 23:04:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:07:55 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 23:17:12 *** Jyggalag [~madgod@v2201412767021848.yourvserver.net] has joined #openttd 23:17:17 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6AE8A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:23:56 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 23:26:39 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:28:00 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:47 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:10 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 23:36:34 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 23:40:12 <Jinassi> planetmaker, should i better remove the updater post, seems shady now(i'm not the owner of the app) 23:57:17 *** Jyggalag [~madgod@v2201412767021848.yourvserver.net] has quit [Quit: Ich werde nun gehen, bevor ich meine Meinung Àndere... 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