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00:04:41 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:05:16 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined #openttd 00:11:06 *** Izaya [~Izaya@210.1.213.55] has joined #openttd 00:11:21 <Izaya> Hello o/ 00:11:38 <Izaya> So I have a question. 00:11:44 <Izaya> ohwait 00:11:53 <naliao> question 00:11:57 <Izaya> I'm an idiot, you can't use X11 forwarding on Windows 00:11:59 <Izaya> Never mind. 00:14:08 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:14:33 <Izaya> Right then, I'm off- I might be back, depending on whether OpenTTD likes running over X11 forwarding over ssh. 00:14:35 *** Izaya [~Izaya@210.1.213.55] has quit [] 00:15:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A190E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:03 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-179-139.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:20:58 *** shadowkatstudios [~chatzilla@210.1.213.55] has joined #openttd 00:21:02 *** shadowkatstudios is now known as Izaya 00:21:17 <Izaya> So OpenTTD works over ssh-forwarded X11 00:21:28 <dreck> st2 I doubt that weed in openttd is a good idea considering the polarized issues behind it in several countries, right? ;) 00:22:17 <Izaya> The software cursor makes it difficult to play, though. 00:22:32 <Izaya> Even over a 10/100 ethernet link it's slow 00:22:50 <dreck> izaya what res you using? 00:23:05 <Izaya> I think it was 800x600 00:23:56 <dreck> hmm well 800x600 with simple grf shouldn't had been much problem in theory..I'm not sure what to actually tell you sorry 00:24:35 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@blfd-5d8223ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 00:24:43 <ST2> dreck: yeah, actually only 1st suggestion (temperate for tobacco) was reliable :) 00:25:16 <dreck> st2 indeed..and it could be resold as GOOD aka boxed sets of cigars stacked into a crate and shipped that way :) 00:25:29 <ST2> maybe on tropic too (like lumber mills) 00:26:43 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined #openttd 00:26:47 <ST2> but lets keep only temperate population with lung cancer ^^ 00:26:54 <Izaya> From what I gather, there's no way to disable the software cursor without modifying the source and rebuilding? 00:28:26 <Eddi|zuHause> probably not 00:28:45 <dreck> st2 lol..well I'm not implying smoking..just looking at all sorts of organic industries/cargos that could fit into the limits of the industry+cargotype system plus traingrfs :) 00:31:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i think tobacco is mostly grown in central america, which i would probably put in subtropic 00:34:57 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.186.20.120.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: peace.] 00:37:45 <dreck> thanks I'll think about what you two said :) 00:40:13 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:40:23 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:20 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 00:49:22 *** ST2 [~ST2@118.107.136.95.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: ST2 on the rocks \o/] 01:08:11 *** Alex [~AlexG@2.218.73.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:17:08 *** ST2 [~ST2@118.107.136.95.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 01:19:47 <dreck> wb st2 01:20:59 <ST2> thx :) 01:21:07 <dreck> what doing atm? 01:21:14 <ST2> had to restart the server where bouncer is :S 01:25:04 *** pxr [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:23 * dreck bounces st2 to another place? :P 01:33:24 <dreck> heh 01:35:22 *** Izaya [~chatzilla@210.1.213.55] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150126171358]] 01:41:01 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 01:47:51 *** Quatroking_ [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:49 <ST2> sorry dreck, was busy banning couple players, sadly :( 01:51:10 <ST2> many players think that because OpenTTD is free and opensource they can do whatever they want in online servers :( 01:51:40 <ST2> a sad mentality :S 01:59:29 <dreck> st2 theres a lot of things that belong only to singleplayer maps but idiots seem to never realize this more than often 01:59:41 <dreck> so I guess you're busy watching maps atm? 02:02:36 <ST2> all peacefull now - sadly talk didn't worked, so a big tempban did (IP's change anyway ^^) 02:03:50 <dreck> :) 02:07:42 <dreck> I'm just about to take a break soon...kinda enough typings+websites for this night 02:18:05 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:21:34 *** Endymion [~chatzilla@ool-457ebd88.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [SeaMonkey 2.32/20150112201917]] 02:22:47 *** dreck [~oftc-webi@166.62.182.125] has left #openttd [] 03:02:35 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:47 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@blfd-4d026118.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 03:33:38 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:49 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@blfd-5d8223ef.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:19 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46:00 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:28 *** itsatacoshop247_ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:00:20 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 04:05:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10:59 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:36:49 *** quorzom [~quorzom@cable-78-35-98-177.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.182.112] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD45A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:15:59 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:43:35 <supermop> hmm a problem with animating doors on trains 07:44:16 <supermop> is that if single sided platforms before the norm in newgrfs, there is no way for the train to know which side to open doors on 07:44:56 <supermop> and doors opening on the wrong side looks more bizarre than having double sided platforms everywhere 07:45:15 <supermop> *become te norm 07:45:17 <supermop> the 08:05:18 <peter1138> Yes but... 08:05:21 <peter1138> They're not. 08:05:27 <peter1138> The gap's too wide. 08:14:02 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 08:14:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:27:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-14-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:27:31 <Wolf01> hi o/ 08:31:16 <Alberth> moin 08:45:08 <supermop> wide gap doesnt look bad in station if it's paved or gravel 08:45:35 <supermop> its the copious grass that makes the gap so jarring 08:53:46 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 09:03:25 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:4166:2ad8:e34e:d2f9] has joined #openttd 09:04:41 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:04:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 09:08:54 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-8-106.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:29 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18D3B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:32:56 <NGC3982> Morning. 10:05:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:07:08 <Alberth> /me welcomes andy with a lot of trompets 10:09:16 <Wolf01> just finished to trash a lorry full of plastic and boxes to find space for the new lego sets 10:09:32 <Wolf01> and I think more stuff will take the trip to the ceiling 10:09:41 *** berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined #openttd 10:10:17 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C35BF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:13:17 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 10:13:58 <Alberth> attic :) 10:14:21 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.120.17] has joined #openttd 10:14:47 <Wolf01> no, ceiling... I'm piling up the boxes in a corner ;) 10:15:20 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you mean heaven :) 10:16:38 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:22 <andythenorth> o/ 10:23:43 <andythenorth> donât keep the boxes :P 10:25:12 <Wolf01> eh, I need the boxes to put stuff in (not the lego ones, those are stuffed with other lego boxes until full and develop their own gravity force) 10:28:35 *** cooldude2k [~cooldude2@107-196-191-88.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 10:39:10 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:52:44 <andythenorth> eh 10:52:55 * andythenorth learns about standard economic classifications again :P 10:53:56 <andythenorth> all the FIRS âtownâ industries are tertiary 10:54:11 <andythenorth> so naming them that way 11:14:11 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:17:19 * andythenorth does âmarketing' 11:22:42 <NGC3982> :o 11:22:46 <Alberth> steel cargo at the iron works looks great 11:24:29 <Alberth> enjoying your BB game? :) 11:24:39 <andythenorth> need to get back to it 11:24:50 <andythenorth> I am playing with an outdated version, so the bugs are bugging me 11:28:16 *** cooldude2k [~cooldude2@107-196-191-88.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01b0d9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:29:49 <Alberth> o/ 11:39:31 <frosch123> \o 11:42:54 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.120.17] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:29 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 12:05:27 <andythenorth> how are eints translators approved? 12:07:24 <Alberth> Looks like you have to make an issue at devzone http://dev.openttdcoop.org/ 3rd bullit 12:07:36 <Alberth> bullet? 12:15:13 *** AlexG [~AlexG@2.218.73.170] has joined #openttd 12:15:36 <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/ManagingEints#Appointing-translators 12:16:00 <frosch123> but usually what albert said :) 12:16:48 <andythenorth> so me / someone just needs to approve Brumi? 12:17:16 <frosch123> an admin can add a person to a translator group, which gives translation access to all participating projects 12:17:53 <andythenorth> I have admin 12:18:22 <frosch123> then go to admin->groups, and add a user 12:18:40 <andythenorth> ok heâs in 12:18:57 * andythenorth assumes FIRS inherits 12:19:42 <andythenorth> yeah 12:20:46 <frosch123> what did you do? 12:20:53 <frosch123> does not look correct to me 12:21:34 <frosch123> ah, you added him to "newgrf project" 12:21:40 <frosch123> that excludes him from game scripts 12:22:28 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:44 <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/groups/2093/edit <- that would have been the place 12:23:01 <frosch123> administration->groups->hungarian->users 12:23:12 <frosch123> it's not specific to a project 12:25:41 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:40 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest3866 12:32:45 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:26 <andythenorth> ho sorry :) 12:38:34 *** Guest3866 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:38:51 <andythenorth> I assumed project instructions applied equally to central projects 12:38:53 <andythenorth> oops 13:09:19 <supermop> have yet to give up this bb game 13:10:38 <supermop> goodnight 13:18:39 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-179-139.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:50 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 13:39:53 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:59 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:26:28 *** ivan` [~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 14:32:04 *** ivan` [~ivan`@192.241.198.49] has joined #openttd 14:56:03 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 15:12:08 *** ivan` [~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:21:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 15:29:44 *** ivan` [~ivan`@192.241.198.49] has joined #openttd 15:36:47 <Yotson> any recommendations for which AI to pick for some casual playing? 15:38:03 *** chester_ [~chester@37-145-29-81.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:38:04 <frosch123> SimpleAi i think is causal 15:38:08 <frosch123> *casual 15:39:35 <Yotson> thanks. will try that one. 15:45:42 <andythenorth> CivilAI is interesting 15:45:47 <andythenorth> just builds roads and buses 15:45:52 <andythenorth> gently 15:48:57 <andythenorth> can someone just add that industry option to ottd 15:49:15 <andythenorth> it seems like one player is going to cause a dubious option to be added to all known industry sets 15:49:29 <andythenorth> simply by asking over and over again 15:52:09 *** ivan` [~ivan`@000130ca.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53:40 <Sylf> >_< 15:54:40 <andythenorth> hmm 15:55:15 <andythenorth> FIRS has a long standing problem where date-restricted industries donât get easily built by the game during gameplay 15:55:20 <andythenorth> because map is already full 15:55:21 <Sylf> so, for those industries that follows the natural production increase/decrease, we can have a map filled with primary industries with 6t/month production? 15:56:09 * andythenorth wonders if screwing with industry properties after dates x, y, z would make any difference 15:56:14 <andythenorth> or if ottd already does that 15:57:20 <frosch123> ottd already does that 15:57:25 <andythenorth> figures 15:57:40 <andythenorth> no point making FIRS more complicated then 15:58:17 <andythenorth> wondered if it was also a nice way to have industry âerasâ, but allow player to fund whatever they wish 15:59:34 <Sylf> :D I can force invent aluminum in 17th century using FIRS 15:59:37 <andythenorth> yes 15:59:40 <andythenorth> but no 15:59:46 <Sylf> and biodiesel in 12th century 15:59:50 <andythenorth> currently, unless you patch it, you canât :P 15:59:59 <andythenorth> you ought to be able to though 16:00:06 <andythenorth> complete change of topic, how was nmlc converted to python 3? Manually, or 2to3? 16:02:55 <Alberth> 2to3, and a lot of manual changes to convert to str.format 16:03:15 <Alberth> and some manual changes for things that 2to3 couldn't do 16:03:39 <Alberth> mostly io handling, and mixup of bytes with text 16:04:10 <andythenorth> I should convert the FIRS compile 16:04:18 <andythenorth> to learn python 3 API and idioms 16:04:28 <andythenorth> and to remove the clunky mixed-python compile 16:04:45 <andythenorth> I think the deps support 3 16:04:57 <Alberth> that's useful :) 16:04:57 <andythenorth> even PIL :P 16:05:11 <Alberth> of course, else nmlc would be dead :p 16:05:42 * andythenorth considers just running 2to3 and crossing fingers 16:06:02 <Alberth> 2to3 is a bit stupid 16:06:26 <andythenorth> dangerously so, or just annoying? 16:06:36 <andythenorth> most magic is bad :P 16:06:49 <Alberth> dict.keys() and friends are converted to list(dict.keys()) 16:07:02 <Alberth> even in contexts where it's not needed 16:07:07 <andythenorth> thatâs urgh 16:07:25 <andythenorth> itâs run 16:07:30 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:07:36 <andythenorth> it printed a very large number of raises 16:07:59 <Alberth> have a look at the changes to see if they make sense 16:08:05 <andythenorth> hmm 16:08:10 <andythenorth> itâs raising on .pypnml files 16:08:15 <andythenorth> thatâs an interesting choice 16:08:16 <Alberth> lol 16:08:19 <andythenorth> theyâre not python 16:08:29 <andythenorth> they contain some python 16:08:37 <andythenorth> but theyâre not a valid python file 16:09:20 <andythenorth> maybe I should do it one directory at a time, to make it manageable 16:09:28 <andythenorth> diff will be huge 16:09:53 <Alberth> you have that much code? 16:10:27 <andythenorth> nah 16:10:39 <Alberth> I don't remember exactly, but I might also have done some shuffling in python 2 in the right direction 16:10:41 <andythenorth> eh hardly any diff at all 16:10:58 <andythenorth> allegedly this is it https://paste.openttdcoop.org/poaitg1sw 16:11:09 <andythenorth> unicode strings 16:11:12 <andythenorth> change prints 16:12:53 <andythenorth> pip is awesome :P 16:12:59 <andythenorth> python packaging that actually works 16:14:15 <Alberth> sorted stuff changes around 280-300 seem unneeded 16:14:38 <andythenorth> bit list happy 16:16:34 <Alberth> it's a safe change, and even preserves cpu costs :p 16:17:41 * andythenorth tests 16:17:44 *** AlexG [~AlexG@2.218.73.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:24:30 <andythenorth> ho problems 16:24:36 <andythenorth> broken docs 16:24:45 <andythenorth> and grf misses any industries 16:24:48 <andythenorth> :) 16:25:02 <Alberth> minor detail :) 16:31:38 <andythenorth> I had better learn what actually changed in python 3 16:32:05 <Alberth> doesn't hurt reading about that :) 16:35:01 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:36:39 <andythenorth> brb 16:40:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B1FF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:44:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:42 *** quorzom [~quorzom@cable-78-35-98-177.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:49:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:55:32 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:56:24 *** dustinm` [~dustinm`@192.241.142.243] has joined #openttd 16:57:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:05:02 *** Nijn [~Q@ip503d90e4.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:11:10 <andythenorth> seems python 3 doesnât like my sorting 17:12:10 <andythenorth> the doc generation is a place made of string and tape 17:12:37 <andythenorth> maybe a python 3 conversion is better done later 17:16:48 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-162.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:18:17 <Wolf01> http://store.steampowered.com/app/320110/ should I redeem this game on steam? 17:20:49 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:26:54 <NGC3982> I'm noticing that on one of my servers, towns seem to be much, much more hostile on terraforming and building-on-trees than on the other servers. 17:27:16 <NGC3982> town_council_tolerance is set to the most submissive parameter. Can NewGRF change how towns react outside of this parameter? 17:27:19 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-54-87.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 17:27:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:44 <NGC3982> The NewGRF's i'm using are all of the Japan Set3 GRF's, FIRS and ISR station. 17:27:45 <NGC3982> +s 17:30:06 <frosch123> houses can set how hostile their destruction is 17:30:28 <NGC3982> But that only goes for actually destroying the house tile. 17:30:37 <frosch123> yup, no difference otherwise 17:30:39 <NGC3982> Not constructing rails on the trees next to it? 17:30:41 <NGC3982> Ok. 17:32:34 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:54 <NGC3982> Thank you. 17:45:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27130 trunk/src/lang/simplified_chinese.txt (2015-01-31 17:45:21 UTC) 17:45:29 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:30 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 1 changes by ww9980 17:55:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:02:11 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:22:45 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 18:23:36 <Samu> hey, is there a hotkey that increases size of loan? 18:23:55 <Alberth> ctrl + click ? 18:23:57 *** V453000 [~V453000@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:24:00 <Alberth> ie max loan 18:24:06 <Alberth> hi hi V 18:24:35 <V453000> hi XD 18:24:40 <Samu> no, something like a toggle 18:24:43 <V453000> I wuz netsplit or something :D for the past few days 18:24:53 <Samu> press X, toggles transparency 18:25:30 <Samu> press whatever, toggles increase/repay loan 18:26:18 <Alberth> I don't know of any key, but that doesn't mean a lot, I never looked for such keys either 18:26:26 <Alberth> you tried the key list at the wiki? 18:27:12 <Samu> http://wiki.openttd.org/Hotkeys here? 18:27:14 <Samu> let me see 18:27:30 <frosch123> there was the idea to implement mouse wheel on statusbar-money 18:27:40 <frosch123> but don't think that was implemented 18:31:02 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 18:31:19 <Samu> that would be even better 18:35:48 <Samu> huge screenshot of a 4096x4096 map - "The screenshot will have a resolution of 262,017 x 131,159 pixels" 18:35:54 <Samu> let's see :p 18:36:45 <Samu> aww, it's not multi-threaded :( 18:37:24 <peter1138> I miss the days when systems had only 32KB RAM in total... :p 18:37:28 <frosch123> good luck finding a software to look at it .) 18:38:39 <NGC3982> The Windows 10 previewer can handle a 2048^2 map picture. 18:38:46 <NGC3982> 8.1 did not, for some reason. 18:39:03 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:49 <frosch123> oh, did they get ottd related reports? 18:41:08 <NGC3982> One should assume. (-; 18:41:09 <frosch123> i do not know any other software that trolls the user by allowing to create a pointsless screenshot 18:41:21 <NGC3982> P..pointless? 18:41:43 <frosch123> a giant screenshot of 4kx4k is for sure pointless :) 18:41:51 <V453000> . 18:41:56 <NGC3982> The ultra screenshot in OpenTTD is the sword in the stone. 18:41:58 *** Nijn [~Q@ip503d90e4.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:07 <NGC3982> It opened up ways for religion and science to co-exist and flourish. 18:42:20 * NGC3982 is bored out of his mind. 18:42:36 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 18:43:47 <Samu> is there a way to run openttd without windows borders but still in windowed mode? 18:44:13 <andythenorth> can something be hot, and cold? o_O 18:44:53 <Samu> some games can do it 18:45:15 <andythenorth> I suspect itâs OS specific 18:45:16 <Samu> when i maximize the window, it removes the borders 18:45:17 <andythenorth> I have no borders 18:45:29 <andythenorth> I have a title bar, thatâs ~essential 18:45:37 <NGC3982> The bordering is usually a product of the used Windows theme, afaik. 18:45:55 <NGC3982> If i change from post-Aero to pre-Aero (or any other ' 18:46:14 <NGC3982> ..'classic theme') i get the vertical borders. 18:47:27 <Samu> like running a browser in fullscreenmode 18:47:55 <Samu> press F11 on internet explorer 18:48:19 <NGC3982> I pressed f11 in OpenTTD once. 18:48:22 <NGC3982> That was a big mistake. 18:51:49 <Samu> the screenshot is still being captured 18:51:50 <Samu> :( 18:52:48 <Alberth> you wanted a full screenshot :) 18:53:10 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:56:44 <Samu> http://westechsolutions.net/sites/WindowedBorderlessGaming/home 18:57:02 <Samu> that 18:57:24 <Samu> and once double sized gui elements become better 18:57:39 <Samu> I would always run OpenTTD in that mode 18:58:08 <Samu> it would be much better to alt-tab between programs 18:59:06 <andythenorth> a bug! 18:59:08 <andythenorth> quick fix it! 18:59:10 * andythenorth tries 18:59:41 <Alberth> alt-tab? just switch desktop :p 19:00:36 <frosch123> switch desktops? just have multiple screens 19:00:41 <Samu> twitch.tv is a big deal :p 19:01:01 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 19:02:06 <Alberth> frosch123: hmm, a big rotating wheel for 6 screens? sounds like an option :p 19:02:15 <Wolf01> I need the opposite of that software, the ability to run full screen games in windowed mode :D 19:02:32 <frosch123> Alberth: 6 screens still work in a 3x2 grid 19:03:01 <frosch123> 8 is more complicate since they are no longer 4:3 19:03:48 <V453000> Samu how many openttd people watch twitch 19:03:58 <V453000> just to see someone look around the map or build slowly 19:03:58 <Alberth> 1 19:04:19 <frosch123> V453000: how many hearthstone people watch twitch 19:04:28 <V453000> idk, probably a lot? :) 19:04:37 <frosch123> just to see someone not knowing the game mechanics 19:04:39 <V453000> 80k 19:05:58 <NGC3982> What is Hearthstone? 19:06:11 <V453000> blizzard card game 19:06:13 <frosch123> a digitral trading card game 19:06:19 <NGC3982> Ah. 19:06:40 <NGC3982> Well, it's a Blizzard game. People that follow Blizzard games probably follow all Blizzard games. 19:06:55 <frosch123> it kind of proved that a computer is a better medium to play such games than hardware paper cards 19:07:42 <frosch123> mtg players will likely turn into ttdp players or similar 19:10:02 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:26 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:18:51 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 19:24:51 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@blfd-5d8223c9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:31:48 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@blfd-4d026118.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:44:18 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-162.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 19:44:24 *** LadyHawk- [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 19:44:27 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-162.a98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44:27 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:30 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 19:59:21 <Alberth> andy, that was quick :) 20:11:38 <Samu> screenshot captured :+ 20:11:53 <andythenorth> too quick :P 20:11:58 <andythenorth> I forgot to bump savegame 20:12:30 <Samu> took 1 hour, 8 minutes 20:13:10 <Samu> 2,52 GB (2.710.958.630 bytes) 20:13:12 <Samu> lol 20:16:32 *** DanMacK [~46189866@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:20:26 <DanMacK> Hey all 20:25:23 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:54 <andythenorth> @seen DanMacK 20:26:55 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 6 minutes and 28 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey all 20:26:58 <andythenorth> \o/ 20:27:59 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 20:34:42 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:29 <Wolf01> uhm... the brunnel could be a nice addition to ottd http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a0L8Yxd_460s.jpg 20:48:21 <Alberth> what is its purpose? 20:48:33 <Wolf01> I don't know 20:48:44 <Wolf01> maybe a bad feature 20:48:54 <Alberth> I mean in real life 20:49:18 <Alberth> seems a bit weird having a tunnel in an open field 20:49:47 <Wolf01> maybe they built it there and then pushed it in place 20:50:22 <Alberth> quite possible 20:50:41 <Wolf01> they did it so for the pedestrian passage under the railroad here 20:50:57 <Alberth> sorry DanMacK, I wrote busy bee, and now andy is all active with FIRS again :p 20:59:11 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:51 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:4166:2ad8:e34e:d2f9] has quit [Quit: .] 21:13:13 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:28:05 <Samu> i found a problem with exclusive transport rights and oilfields 21:28:18 <Samu> no cargo is delivered to the oilfield station 21:28:35 <Samu> not even to the company who bought exclusive 21:29:26 <Samu> with a ship there 21:32:55 <andythenorth> that sounds correct 21:35:10 <Samu> how so? 21:35:54 <andythenorth> if you buy exclusive, that means âonly your stations' 21:35:58 <andythenorth> oil rig isnât your station 21:36:24 <Samu> it looks like an oversight 21:36:38 <Samu> they should be an exception 21:36:56 <Samu> they're neutral 21:37:28 <andythenorth> would be considered a bug by the player who bought exclusive rights? 21:38:06 <b_jonas> Samu: build another station next to the oil field and use that maybe? 21:38:32 <Samu> that's against server rules 21:39:23 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.120.17] has joined #openttd 21:43:32 <frosch123> a server that enables exclusive rights? how unusal 21:45:17 *** itsatacoshop247_ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:00 <NGC3982> !seen dreck 21:52:44 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:30 *** dreck [~oftc-webi@166.62.182.125] has joined #openttd 21:53:32 <dreck> hi 21:56:17 <dreck> st2 you still around here? :) 21:56:28 <ST2> more or less ^^ 21:56:42 <ST2> hi :) 21:58:23 <dreck> heh what doing atm? more player management or not? ;) 21:58:32 <ST2> yeah ;) 21:58:44 <dreck> need a whip? 21:58:45 <dreck> :P 21:59:09 <ST2> I wonder that sometimes would help :D 22:02:28 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:10 <dreck> heh :) 22:04:22 <dreck> you mind pm for a moment? 22:07:41 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 22:07:56 *** itsatacoshop247_ is now known as itsatacoshop247 22:16:24 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:49 *** Cursarion [xrs@adishbestservedworldly.xrs.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:11 <andythenorth> bye 22:29:12 *** andythenorth [~Andy@host86-130-188-206.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 22:31:33 *** sla_ro|master2 [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 22:33:44 <dreck> just asking but is it normal for two-cargo-parts locomotive/wagon to fail at autoreplace even if the 2nd part is refit to nil/empty cargotype slot? 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