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If I load up a train at Point A with people who want to go to B and C, and stop at B, will the people who want to go to C get off, or stay on?.. 07:13:19 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 07:13:26 <Rubidium> generally they'd stay on, except maybe when there is another less saturated route from B to C 07:16:25 <TartarusMkII> So if there is two stations in one city, and they want to go to station B in the city, but station A is the one wit hthe train, they'll still stay on until station A to automatically transfer over to B from some far off destination? (provided it's the only way to get there?) 07:17:56 <Rubidium> yes, if they want to go somewhere they'll get there whatever way is possible 07:18:47 <TartarusMkII> awesome, thanks! 07:20:43 <TartarusMkII> So does that mean with cargo dist enabled cargo types, I should never bother to specifically transfer order? 07:20:58 <Rubidium> yup 07:21:02 <TartarusMkII> cool. 07:39:35 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:40:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18870.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:09 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 07:50:40 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.126.34] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC - if you don't try it, you can't tell me it sucks. (www.adiirc.com)] 07:58:51 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 07:58:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:07:57 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-137-18.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 08:12:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:12:29 <andythenorth> o/ 08:13:46 <TartarusMkII> o/ 08:17:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 08:17:42 *** Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> synthon.oftc.net quits: luaduck, funnel, Cursarion, Sylf, Vadtec, __ln__, xQR, Prof_Frink, tyteen4a03, ST2, (+17 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 08:19:08 <TartarusMkII> Ahhh! 08:22:04 *** Netsplit over, joins: Prof_Frink, @peter1138, Biolunar_, tycoondemon, ST2, eQualizer, Extrems, Vadtec, jinks, __ln__ (+17 more) 08:22:19 <TartarusMkII> Q_Q so scary 08:22:24 <TartarusMkII> thought I lost everyone 4ever 08:33:23 <Supercheese> was quite the split 08:33:29 *** AbsoluteVeritas [~|Truth|@c-73-177-155-170.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:38 *** |Truth| [~|Truth|@c-73-177-155-170.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:34:54 <TartarusMkII> Hold me, mister cheese. 08:38:11 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55:40 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:50 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 08:58:03 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:33:35 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:37:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66B3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:29 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:8001:c5d6:65c6:e5b2:47a7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:47 <supermop_> quite humbling - it has taken me 3 days to figure out how to get a non parallel projection in this rendering engine 10:05:18 <V453000> hi? :) 10:05:29 <TartarusMkII> o/ 10:23:20 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:8001:c9cb:80bb:2b18:e392] has joined #openttd 11:03:54 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.179.109] has joined #openttd 11:07:16 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A6CA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:07:30 <V453000> I am thinking voxels 11:09:34 <supermop_> voxels? 11:11:27 <V453000> read as I am fucking clueless what to do :P 11:20:22 <Alberth> do nothing for a while 11:22:10 <V453000> I am doing something, but it is so many projects and none finished 11:23:46 <V453000> last release ages ago 11:26:02 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:02 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 11:32:35 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest5192 11:32:42 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:05 <Alberth> doing too many things at once thus. Perhaps decide on what to do first and what to do later? 11:38:13 *** Guest5192 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:19 <V453000> no that isnt the thing, I just do not think the solutions I am applying are good 11:38:30 <V453000> rawr is so stupidly complicated and looks very bad 11:58:02 <Flygon__> V453000: Voxels fix everything! 11:58:04 *** Flygon__ is now known as Flygon 12:02:26 *** juzza1 [~juzza1@0001bead.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:17:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8E5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:01 <supermop_> ok ive learned that importing into sketch up is not viable 12:22:46 <V453000> just finish the model and I can render it for you :) 12:33:20 *** Johnnei [~Johnnei@D9783BEE.cm-3-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:14 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:17 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2.221.246.223] has quit [Quit: To robbery, slaughter, plunder they give the lying name of empire; they make a desert and call it peace.] 13:14:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29:18 *** supermop_ [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:37:20 *** liq4 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:37:20 *** liq3 is now known as Guest5203 13:37:20 *** liq4 is now known as liq3 13:38:58 *** Guest5203 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:24 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.108.239] has joined #openttd 13:42:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 13:55:07 *** sim642 [~simmo@205-29-190-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 13:55:44 <sim642> Company HQ seems to be hidden using the structures and antennas transparency option but when that is selected this happens: http://i.imgur.com/AlPyOdC.png 13:56:05 <sim642> That shouldn't look weird like that, right? 13:56:39 <sim642> Completely hiding it just makes the darkened area disappear while the base still remains 14:09:28 *** TartarusMkII [4574c043@107.161.19.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:13:24 <peter1138> So? 14:15:29 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:21:16 <__ln__> it's not realistic. doesn't work that way when you make buildings invisible in real life. 14:22:44 <peter1138> Ah, of course. 14:23:57 <Alberth> __ln__: how would you know, I haven't yet seen an invisible building 14:31:34 *** Pereba [~UserNick@187.58.126.34] has joined #openttd 14:31:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D8E5.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B0BD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:10:10 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d088be9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Yo.] 15:16:16 <__ln__> Alberth: of course you didn't _see_ it as it was invisible. 15:16:39 <Alberth> :) 15:27:30 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa7-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 15:31:34 <sim642> peter1138, it doesn't behave how other buildings behave when made transparent or invisible because those will have foundations shown but this is just plain image masking 15:32:13 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa7-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:51:56 <Alberth> sim642: you'd have to check if the HQ has a ground tile. If not, you can't do better than this, unless you never want to see the bottom 15:54:45 <sim642> I assume it doesn't if it's not getting shown 15:58:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 16:03:36 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-95-97.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 16:19:07 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:08 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:04 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 16:54:12 <peter1138> sim642, there's no universal rule on how the graphics were drawn. 16:54:25 <peter1138> Some buildings show foundations, others don't. 16:59:34 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-22.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:01:14 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:02:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:13 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:19 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 17:47:56 *** nanoha-c1an [~derp@van-app-svr.ad.v10networks.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:48:53 *** nanoha-chan [~derp@van-app-svr.ad.v10networks.ca] has joined #openttd 17:57:48 <V453000> hm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAWR/voxelzzzzz.png 17:58:14 <V453000> I actually enjoy making this :D 18:00:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:04:37 <Eddi|zuHause> cubicles! 18:13:17 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:43 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-22.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 18:26:12 *** StudioPonozka [~Sockman@95-143-140-33.client.ltnet.cz] has joined #openttd 18:32:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:38:31 <LordAro> how old is the cubicles injoke now? :L 18:40:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66B3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 18:40:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66B3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:41:15 <V453000> idk, old 18:41:44 <V453000> but I am somewhat decided I will make it work :D 18:44:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:53 <andythenorth> plz send me the codes 18:45:14 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:46:28 <Eddi|zuHause> [Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2011] [19:08:33] <Dany0> SAY CUBICLE ONE MORE F*CKING TIME 18:47:00 *** sim642 [~simmo@205-29-190-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 18:47:08 <andythenorth> VOXEL 18:47:27 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 18:53:24 *** StudioPonozka [~Sockman@95-143-140-33.client.ltnet.cz] has quit [Quit: Buj] 18:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> of course it was V453000 who actually escalated the cubicle situation to that point. 18:54:48 <V453000> XD 18:54:49 <andythenorth> bloody V453000 18:56:26 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:42 <V453000> I believe andythenorth had even more involvement 18:56:49 <andythenorth> I wasnât even there 18:56:57 <andythenorth> I was on holiday 18:57:16 <Eddi|zuHause> standard excuse in your workplace? :p 18:57:37 <andythenorth> surprisingly, yes 18:59:48 * andythenorth wonders why FIRS ports and such have a tile check that allows building on normal slopes 18:59:50 <andythenorth> seems odd 19:01:39 <andythenorth> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pyry0pdns 19:02:21 <andythenorth> oh itâs XOR? 19:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe there were corner cases? 19:02:39 <andythenorth> tries to avoid river / sea 19:02:44 <andythenorth> by exclusion, I assume 19:02:53 <andythenorth> seems to work, probably best left alone :P 19:02:58 <andythenorth> standard refactoring conclusion 19:03:50 <andythenorth> I think itâs simply to avoid checking both WATER_CLASS_RIVER and WATER_CLASS_CANAL 19:03:56 <andythenorth> as exclusions 19:05:26 <Eddi|zuHause> style: why put "== WATER_CLASS_SEA" into the check, and not "WATER_CLASS_SEA: blah" into the switch options? 19:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause> switch(water_class(0,0)) { 19:06:24 <Eddi|zuHause> WATER_CLASS_SEA: blah 19:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> WATER_CLASS_NONE: blah 19:06:44 <Eddi|zuHause> disallow 19:06:46 <Eddi|zuHause> } 19:08:17 <andythenorth> I wondered that 19:08:26 <andythenorth> why two switches? 19:08:31 <V453000> I agree 19:08:34 <andythenorth> more future proof against new tile classes? 19:08:37 <V453000> with everything 19:08:54 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i don't think that is a valid argument 19:09:12 * andythenorth considers one switch 19:09:24 <andythenorth> having to read both made it harder for me to understand the logic 19:09:31 <andythenorth> and there are two CPP macros generating them 19:09:33 <andythenorth> which is faff 19:10:20 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i think it's a case of "i undersand this "1: blah; default;" pattern, just reuse it 19:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> " 19:10:33 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:48 <andythenorth> Iâll refactor 19:12:56 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest5241 19:13:01 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:19:12 *** Guest5241 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:05 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host246-73-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:57:53 <Wolf01> hi hi 20:01:33 <andythenorth> lo Wolf01 20:06:07 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 20:06:47 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.179.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:40 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:16:54 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2.221.246.223] has joined #openttd 20:51:01 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:24 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:49 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:56:50 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:21 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:05:05 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:30 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 21:18:08 <Eddi|zuHause> "US Army gets lost on the way to poland through brandenburg"... man are we glad that they didn't have to go that far during WWII. imagine what would have happened 21:21:05 <Wolf01> maybe they didn't have a plan 21:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause> worse. they had GPS 21:21:57 <Eddi|zuHause> apparently their Navi gave them a route that was only suitible for cars (<3.5t) 21:23:23 <Wolf01> eh, happens, at least they didn't use google maps "new york to paris by swim" 21:23:52 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:24:44 *** jaydodge1975 [~oftc-webi@d162-157-57-226.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:25:13 <Rubidium> America has cars of < 3.5t? 21:26:00 <glx> germany has 21:26:06 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that relevant for a bridge between germany and poland? 21:27:08 <Wolf01> 'night 21:27:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:27:21 <Rubidium> well, I find it odd that people from a country that has a fairly high percentage of cars weighing more than 3.5t buys a navigation system for cars less than 3.5t 21:28:46 <glx> maybe it's just they didn't know a road could have a weight limit 21:29:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i'll assume it was a data error. but it's not unheard of that companies are too cheap to buy the truck version of the map data, and get the cheaper car version 21:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> but that's what happens when people rely on computers too much. 70 years ago a human would have plotted the path on a map, and that map would have had weight limits of bridges and stuff 21:33:45 <Eddi|zuHause> or probably even 10 years ago 21:34:37 <jaydodge1975> Hi, can anyone tell me where I can get ahold of the old copy's of stolentrees I have what I think is the new updated ver. however I would like to open some save games that I downloaded to view how stuff works the ID's I'm looking for are GRF ID: 52453C00 and 5245F0F0 ? and all the links I find are dead ends 21:35:28 <Eddi|zuHause> have you checked the GRF Pack on the openttdcoop site? 21:36:11 <jaydodge1975> all I can find is the Ver 8 and I have it would like to know if there is a way to get the old copies as they removed a lot of stuff that could help 21:36:35 <Eddi|zuHause> well, if it's gone, it's gone... 21:37:06 <Eddi|zuHause> you'll probably have better luck just disabling the GRFs from the savegame through non-sanctioned methods 21:37:47 <jaydodge1975> lol, ya I was afair of that guess I have to wait and see if Simuscape will update the link as that's where almost every search ends 21:38:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd not hold my breath for that 21:38:59 <jaydodge1975> hmmm never thought about giving that a go didn't think it could work 21:39:28 <jaydodge1975> :) ya that's what I was thinking I might turn very blue I bet 21:39:40 <jaydodge1975> plus not one to wait 21:40:39 <Eddi|zuHause> stolentrees should not make any trouble if ripped out of a savegame by force. but you never know... 21:41:07 <jaydodge1975> this non-sanctioned method you speak of is that kind of like or one in the same as making the game go back and let you changed the GRF's in game 21:41:58 <jaydodge1975> is there a way or would it would to make it look for the updated copy I have the testw instead of newtrees etc... 21:45:09 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. remove the old one, and add the new one. 21:46:03 <Eddi|zuHause> better: put the new one in [newgrf-static] in your openttd.cfg, it will be active on all old and new savegames, even online games. and it will not affect loading of savegames when the file is not there anymore 21:47:36 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this jeb bush seems to have read the chapter on political strategy where it says "say both 'A' and 'not A', and hope that by the time election comes, people only remember the statement that they viewed as positive" 21:51:35 <jaydodge1975> okay been away from games like this for many many years how would I go about adding a newgrf-static line as I checked the cfg file and the only thing I see is the persets I have been trying to set up really 21:53:09 <Eddi|zuHause> if there is no line that says "[newgrf-static]", you can add it at the end, and then move the treesw line from one of your presets to that new section. 21:55:44 <jaydodge1975> okay yes I found a bit of info sorry I have really really bad internet right now shouldn't really have any at all takes like 5 min to load a page, ;) 22:00:18 <jaydodge1975> okay do I need all this line not sure but looks like the line that is set for my perset goes something like GRF ID and maybe a MD5sum and then pathway and then a = if there is a parameter set maybe 22:01:55 <jaydodge1975> little bit of info I got from a wiki is [newgrf-static] opengfx_biggui-2.0.0/ogfx-biggui.grf = 1, so not sure if I need all that info or it I use it the game or cfg would be set up better and how do I get the info like I have for my persets for the savegame files do you know 22:05:04 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:33 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause> the format for these entries changed recently. info on the wiki might work, or might be outdated. who knows. 22:08:45 <jaydodge1975> ya I'm thinking the same just like the map seed info I found for ver 1.4.4 that I belive doesn't work for 1.5 22:25:35 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:57 *** DDR [~david@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 22:28:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B0BD.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:08:45 *** jaydodge1975 [~oftc-webi@d162-157-57-226.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:52:38 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d088be9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd