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00:21:59 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 00:38:33 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> forum backup, i haven't hit that for quite a while :p 01:28:04 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@ip98-176-6-104.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:09:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:00:21 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:20:53 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:41:27 *** KouDy_ [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5B0DAD76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4A4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:33:14 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 06:34:46 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 06:39:15 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 06:39:50 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@ip98-176-6-104.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:44:41 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:37 *** Compu [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:801d:7423:b745:62e8:3d82] has joined #openttd 07:15:40 *** CompuDesktop [~quassel@2604:6000:120a:801d:7423:b745:62e8:3d82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:19 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0854cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 08:16:31 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:15 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 08:26:15 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 08:44:24 <planetmaker> it's always amusing again to see those e-mails like "help, I was banned from server XY. I did nothing wrong. Can you help me?" 08:46:32 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you mean "again"? 08:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause> did you not get them for a while? 08:48:27 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:48:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 08:58:38 <planetmaker> we get such e-mail on average every few weeks. Lately they seem to come more often 08:59:13 <planetmaker> and always those people seem incapable to apply some logic and trying to search for the webpage of the server 08:59:44 <planetmaker> and it's not like reddit and btpro and the other major servers have no websites 08:59:44 <V453000> did people get more retarded? :D 09:04:51 <planetmaker> maybe. But probably not 09:05:23 <planetmaker> As Einstein said: there's two things which are infinite: space and stupidity. And he isn't sure about the former ;) 09:10:10 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:10:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 09:16:46 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:18:02 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 09:25:54 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:25:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:31:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host15-216-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:31:49 <Wolf01> hi hi 09:32:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:36:07 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:50 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:05:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:26:00 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 10:34:59 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:35:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:41:07 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:25 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:52 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:49 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has joined #openttd 10:52:15 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:53:28 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 10:59:44 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@xd9bf0348.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 11:06:45 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0854cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:31:11 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:47 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:25:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 12:25:34 <andythenorth> how do I persuade bundles server that latest FIRS release is 2.0.0 not 1.4.4? 12:25:50 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/ 12:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause> rename the branch into default 12:26:55 <andythenorth> thanks 12:27:01 <andythenorth> not sure thatâs wise yet 12:27:10 <andythenorth> makes sense though 12:31:31 *** roidal_ [~roland@62-46-143-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:32:32 * andythenorth attempts to musa 12:32:40 <planetmaker> andythenorth, LATEST is always the latest build. Literally as to what was pushed last 12:32:51 <planetmaker> andythenorth, if that didn't work it might be a bug there somewhere 12:33:13 <andythenorth> planetmaker: got time to investigate? 12:33:31 <andythenorth> or it could wait 12:33:49 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i don't see how that could work, as you could push multiple branches at the same time 12:33:51 <planetmaker> I'll have a look now 12:34:02 <andythenorth> planetmaker: there is a 2.0.0-alpha tag on the snakebite branch 12:34:11 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, yes, you could. Then it might be undeterministic 12:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: i find it way more likely that it just pulls the default branch and makes whatever comes out of there 12:34:49 <planetmaker> but I know that I didn't put there any fancy logic or so. Just the newest tagged build is made 'LATEST' 12:35:11 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, and no, I search for tags and those are built - whatever branch they are in 12:35:30 <planetmaker> the branch has no meaning for taged builds 12:35:39 <planetmaker> or rather no influence 12:36:22 <andythenorth> planetmaker: does it read the tag name in any way? 12:36:24 <planetmaker> as to the push builds: it builds the head of each branch being pushed. I think I changed it so that not only default branch works 12:36:32 <andythenorth> i.e. does it need x.y.z format? 12:36:50 <planetmaker> how the tag looks like *should* not matter 12:36:52 <andythenorth> bundles certainly builds on push correctly 12:37:13 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/ 12:37:39 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/changelog.txt is correct 12:38:09 <planetmaker> hm, so it didn't build 2.0.0? 12:38:22 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-231.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:38:55 <andythenorth> jenkins reported no changs 12:38:58 <andythenorth> no changes * 12:39:05 <planetmaker> oh, it tried. but it failed to build 12:39:15 <planetmaker> no changes... strange 12:39:38 <planetmaker> 18:52:23 abort: unknown revision '2.0.0'! 12:39:47 * andythenorth is afk for 10 mins 12:39:54 <planetmaker> so something went wrong :) 12:39:55 <andythenorth> but the history is all there to see :) 12:39:58 <andythenorth> biab 12:40:18 * planetmaker has an idea 12:42:31 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:43:00 * planetmaker discards the idea 12:43:19 * Hiddenfunstuff dumpsterdives the idea 12:43:59 * planetmaker revisits the idea :P 12:44:27 <planetmaker> update failed... not jumping branches, it seems 12:44:36 <planetmaker> which is a failure in my build script 12:51:23 <planetmaker> hm... 12:55:35 <andythenorth> it jumps fine for regular commits :) 12:55:56 * andythenorth doesnât know how hg tags are implemented, but arenât they just pointers to a hash? 12:55:58 <planetmaker> andythenorth, FYI: it seems that it's a problem with the (ancient) mercurial version on the server. It fails to update to tags with hyphen (-). The same thing works locally with my more modern mercurial 12:56:04 <planetmaker> they are 12:56:10 <andythenorth> oh itâs that mercurial bug 12:56:14 <andythenorth> Iâm sure you found that before :) 12:56:17 <planetmaker> I *think* so 12:56:34 <planetmaker> well, the 2.2.2 on the server is rather ancient. I don't use that for a very long time :D 12:57:05 <planetmaker> current is 3.5.1. And there's one minor version bump every 3 months. Go figure how old it is :D 12:57:32 <planetmaker> ok, June 2012 12:57:41 <dlhero> that's old for software these days 12:57:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that's "only" 3 years :p 12:58:07 <planetmaker> andythenorth, I guess I'll update mercurial on jenkins server soonish to fix this issue 12:58:25 <planetmaker> dlhero, for a server that's not necessarily 'old' 12:58:49 <planetmaker> it's what shipped with the distro which runs it. But that might need updating somewhen, too :P 12:59:13 <planetmaker> debian 7.8... 12:59:42 <andythenorth> never update servers :P 12:59:46 <andythenorth> standing rule 12:59:50 <planetmaker> :) Only when needed 12:59:53 <andythenorth> wait for it to die, then migrate all services to a new one 12:59:54 <planetmaker> it's enough work that way 12:59:58 <planetmaker> :) 13:00:02 <planetmaker> it's VMs 13:00:08 <planetmaker> so... they hopefully never die :P 13:00:24 <planetmaker> or would work the same on new machine ;) 13:00:37 <dlhero> planetmaker: I dont' disagree but I consider git/hg crucial services 13:00:46 <dlhero> prefer to have the latest versions/fixes blabla 13:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause> "doesn't work with - in the name" is as good as "dead" 13:01:07 <dlhero> occasionally skimming through the Changlog as well 13:02:36 <Eddi|zuHause> really, you should have a regular update schedule. the rarer an update gets, the more likely it won't work 13:03:15 <Eddi|zuHause> (remember to have backups) 13:03:37 <planetmaker> we do 13:04:00 <andythenorth> next problem: how do I musa? :P 13:04:04 <andythenorth> I wrote an ini file 13:04:10 <andythenorth> but how do I upload the tar? 13:04:20 <andythenorth> the forum thread says only grfs 13:06:43 <planetmaker> musa asks you for all files (grf, doc, changelog, license). It doesn't handle a complete tar 13:07:18 <Eddi|zuHause> who thought that was a good idea? 13:08:19 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:55 <andythenorth> âerror: you are not listed as author for this content" 13:17:17 <andythenorth> I have âandythenorthâ in the .ini file 13:17:32 <andythenorth> I donât know who the authors are for FIRS 13:17:51 <planetmaker> andythenorth, you need to be listed as author in bananas 13:17:57 <Eddi|zuHause> honestly, i never actually used musa, but when i last looked at it, it seemed somewhat poorly documented and half-assed. like a proof of concept prototype that somebody said "ah well, just ship it" 13:18:05 <andythenorth> thereâs no way to know who the authors are in bananas⊠13:18:09 <andythenorth> I donât have mySQL access 13:18:10 <planetmaker> i.e. the user who uploads FIRS? was it you or openttdcoop? 13:18:15 <andythenorth> openttdcoop 13:18:22 <planetmaker> then that's the user you need to list there, too 13:18:25 <andythenorth> ah ok 13:18:33 <planetmaker> same credentials. You can only use it to add additional ones 13:18:40 <planetmaker> and then next time you can upload as andy 13:19:37 <andythenorth> interesting 13:19:44 <andythenorth> license.txt is unpackageable 13:20:04 <planetmaker> yes, unless you select 'custom'. But as you use a default license, no need. They're stored in bananas 13:20:30 <andythenorth> ok 13:20:36 <andythenorth> eh, itâs gone and done 13:20:58 <andythenorth> 2.0.0-alpha on bananaramas 13:21:02 <planetmaker> :) 13:21:16 <andythenorth> is bananas web UI considered dead? 13:21:26 <andythenorth> or just limping? 13:22:15 <planetmaker> limping. And imho in need of improvement :) 13:22:34 <planetmaker> i.e. adding new additional authors only works via musa. As does uploading big content 13:22:50 <planetmaker> but it should return to allowing 'normal' uploads and edits to the entry 13:23:15 <andythenorth> has anyone read the logs? 13:23:22 <planetmaker> And tbh, it is being looked into... but it's tricky as the logs are rather inconclusive as to the reasons of the errors 13:23:25 <andythenorth> âexceptionâ is not very detailed :) 13:23:30 <planetmaker> yeah. Exactly 13:24:02 <planetmaker> but the logs are not really more detailed from what I understood (haven#t looked myself). Ancient software sucks sometimes ;) 13:24:28 <planetmaker> gotta leave for a bit 13:29:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm going back to my hanseatic republic of germany 13:33:08 * andythenorth ships FIRS 13:33:12 <andythenorth> done and done 13:33:17 <andythenorth> until the bug reports arrive :P 14:23:35 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:19 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:25:37 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:25:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:55:23 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)] 15:14:47 <andythenorth> so eh 15:14:52 <andythenorth> if Iâve released an alpha 15:14:59 <andythenorth> e.g. 2.0.0-alpha 15:15:05 <andythenorth> and then I release a trivial bug fix :P 15:15:09 <andythenorth> what version is that o_O 15:16:04 <Alberth> 2.0.0-alpha-1 ? :) 15:16:11 <andythenorth> ok 15:17:23 <Alberth> 2.0.1-alpha is also an option perhaps 15:18:03 <andythenorth> nah, that implies the 2.0.0 release happened :) 15:18:12 <andythenorth> if it was RC I would have done RC1, RC2 etc 15:18:19 <andythenorth> but I didnât think about more alphas :P 15:18:28 <Alberth> alpha2 ;) 15:18:59 <Alberth> or make it beta :p 15:19:25 <Alberth> gamma, delta, epsilon ... 15:20:42 <planetmaker> 2.0.0-beta? 15:20:50 <planetmaker> ah, I'm slow 15:21:03 <Alberth> lazy friday afternoon :) 15:21:24 <planetmaker> not really, preparing food for tomorrow's picknick :D 15:21:54 <Alberth> sounds great already :) 15:24:14 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@ip98-176-6-104.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:42 * Sylf is still waiting for version omega 15:26:56 * andythenorth considers scripting the musa upload :P 15:27:03 <andythenorth> over-engineering, probably :P 15:27:20 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:56 <Alberth> andythenorth: copy-paste the BB one in the makefile? 15:28:17 <andythenorth> is there âmake releaseâ or so 15:28:22 * andythenorth will look later :) 15:30:10 <planetmaker> andythenorth, scripting the musa upload is not really difficult; I actually considered it for devzone... wonder whether it's worthwhile or whether it results in much crap being uploaded :P 15:30:29 <andythenorth> mostly Iâd just template the tag :P 15:30:36 <andythenorth> the rest is fine 15:30:39 <planetmaker> how can you template a tag? 15:30:46 <planetmaker> or what do you mean with that? 15:30:55 <andythenorth> text substituion in the .ini file 15:31:12 <andythenorth> pass the tag as an arg, or read it from hg or so 15:31:40 <andythenorth> I only release occasionally, more work to script and document than do it manually :P 15:34:08 <planetmaker> how's that different than what the Makefile and CF do? 15:34:36 <planetmaker> the Makefile writes the version to the grf. And the CF reads the tag information and publishes accordingly as well 15:34:57 <andythenorth> I would likely do it with the Makefile 15:35:05 <andythenorth> or is that unwise? 15:35:11 <planetmaker> the tag can be read from the info. And the commit hook actually detects them being present and triggers the builds accordingly 15:35:16 <planetmaker> but do what? 15:35:30 <andythenorth> edit the .ini file, run the musa command 15:35:36 <andythenorth> I dunno, seem over-engineered tbh 15:35:41 <planetmaker> oh, you mean editing musa.ini? 15:35:46 <andythenorth> yes 15:36:08 <planetmaker> there's something like that somewhere... I forgot which repo. Frosch made that :P busybee? 15:36:13 <andythenorth> yes 15:36:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6DDB2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:37:17 <planetmaker> actually I've been thinking of making it a .devzone configuration: automatic upload using musa 15:37:28 <planetmaker> I guess you would be a customer to that? 15:37:32 <andythenorth> yes 15:37:35 <planetmaker> only for releases, of course 15:37:40 <andythenorth> push tag, everything happens automatically 15:37:41 <planetmaker> i.e.tags 15:37:43 <planetmaker> yup 15:37:52 <andythenorth> itâs all on the coop account anyway 15:37:59 <andythenorth> (my grfs) 15:38:41 <planetmaker> well, one would probably need to upload the first iteration manually in order to allow updates by the openttdcoop account. But that's done for most of your grfs anyway 15:38:58 <andythenorth> yes 15:38:58 <planetmaker> well, I shall have a look 15:39:07 <andythenorth> :) 15:46:33 <Alberth> next step, automagic sprite creator :) 15:46:57 <planetmaker> andythenorth, what's the bug which alluke tries to report? (FIRS thread) 15:47:18 <planetmaker> Alberth, ask Zeph. He has something like that... procedural sprite generator ;) 15:47:29 <planetmaker> iirc for houses, maybe for other stuff, too 15:47:47 <andythenorth> ha he has a pathological number of scrap yars 15:47:49 <andythenorth> yards * 15:48:17 <planetmaker> happens in a run-down economy :P 15:48:33 <andythenorth> dunno why that is 15:48:36 <planetmaker> and tbh, from the screenies I can't tell whether those are user-placed 15:48:39 <andythenorth> but thatâs what betas are for 15:48:44 <andythenorth> ask him :) 15:48:52 <planetmaker> nah. I'm invited for dinner now :P 15:49:07 <planetmaker> hm.... well, ok. Just because it's fun :) 15:52:36 <andythenorth> he hasnât specified which economy? 15:52:40 <Alberth> yeah, but that's Zeph himself :p 15:53:00 <Alberth> looks temperate-ish 15:53:05 <andythenorth> tells nothing :) 15:53:18 <Alberth> oh, firs economies 15:53:32 <andythenorth> :) 15:53:46 <Alberth> random guess, default? 15:54:21 <andythenorth> probly 16:00:47 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:16 <Alberth> hmm, perhaps very early or so? 16:02:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:02 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@ip98-176-6-104.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:06 <Alberth> temperate basic 1900 gives me a town with 3 scrap yards 16:07:13 <andythenorth> interesting 16:07:32 <andythenorth> might just be the value of the probability property 16:09:57 <Alberth> sounds likely 16:13:20 <Alberth> don't get more than 3 though 16:14:46 <Alberth> I wonder whether he plays with some patched version, his filenames "18.36.03" looks like a real-time clock 16:15:45 <Alberth> hmm, maybe just the time stamp of the screenshot 16:16:25 <andythenorth> I canât replicate 16:16:34 <andythenorth> I tried industries âhighâ and towns âvery low' 16:16:39 <andythenorth> on Temperate Basic 16:17:11 <Alberth> yeah, not in the degree that he shows 16:29:51 <andythenorth> I canât replicate the pink either :P 16:35:56 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:50:20 <Alberth> me neither 16:52:29 <Alberth> the only explanation is that he didn't update the newgrf settings before generating a new map, imho 17:07:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:07:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 17:12:32 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-84-136.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 17:18:28 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:20:39 *** Valle [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 17:21:58 <Valle> Good evening. Is there anyone using the JGR Patchpack 0.4.1 in multiplayer in here? 17:27:33 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:28:03 <Alberth> you may also want to try #tycoon? 17:28:26 <Alberth> many users here don't actually play the game :) 17:32:41 <Valle> Roger, going to try that channel. Having everyone in here play while logged into the chat would be a bit mad. ;-) 17:32:57 *** Valle [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has left #openttd [] 17:48:25 *** Valle [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 17:53:24 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 17:55:45 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 18:00:12 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-177.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:03:18 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:03:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:18 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f74652a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:51 <andythenorth> quak 18:15:33 <andythenorth> this http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1156157#p1156157 18:15:36 <andythenorth> happens for me sometimes 18:16:02 <andythenorth> I ignore it because I assume itâs due to me changing grfs underneath a running OpenTTD 18:19:44 <frosch123> hmm, there is no firs.nml on bunldes 18:21:22 <frosch123> 321 changesets, 13 files updated :p 18:24:39 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 18:24:39 *** roidal_ [~roland@62-46-143-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:09 <frosch123> andythenorth: did you release the beta on the same day as the broken alpha? 18:35:25 <andythenorth> I released -alpha then -alpha-1 18:35:31 <andythenorth> grf name same? 18:35:43 <frosch123> newgrf version is "number of days since 2000", so only changes once per day 18:36:02 <frosch123> if the broken and fixed are committed on the same date, their version numbers will be equal 18:36:07 <frosch123> and ottd cannot tell which is newer 18:36:10 <andythenorth> yup 18:36:11 <andythenorth> ok 18:41:35 <andythenorth> @seen alluke 18:41:36 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: alluke was last seen in #openttd 5 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <alluke> theres the report 18:43:03 *** Sirenia [~sirenia@93.186.164.51] has joined #openttd 19:03:03 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 19:05:17 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-177.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:30 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:13:11 *** Valle_ [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 19:19:04 *** Valle [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:15 *** Valle_ [~oftc-webi@HSI-KBW-046-005-254-124.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:26:15 <andythenorth> hmm 19:26:26 <andythenorth> now what? :P 19:27:30 <Xaroth|Work> watch a random youtube vid, then, once it's done, click one of the suggested videos from the list 19:27:41 <Xaroth|Work> see how long you last until you get to the really weird stuff 19:28:33 <frosch123> or try the reverse 19:28:44 <frosch123> start at "i like trains", and try to get somewhere sane 19:29:08 <andythenorth> I did the YT already 19:29:13 <andythenorth> as much as I can be arsed 19:29:19 <andythenorth> daily goal achieved :P 19:29:41 <Xaroth|Work> frosch123: i usually try that after i found the weird stuff 19:30:04 <Wolf01> andythenorth, i have another strange vehicle for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombard_Steam_Log_Hauler 19:32:39 <andythenorth> yup 19:32:46 <andythenorth> was going to include those in HEQS 19:32:50 <andythenorth> but eh, didnât happen :) 19:32:56 <andythenorth> needs roadtypes :P 19:33:15 <Wolf01> heh 19:35:06 <andythenorth> they are pretty cool 19:35:21 <andythenorth> I have photos of them with long long trains 19:39:44 <andythenorth> eh, this is mislabelled, itâs a bulldozer, not a lombard 19:39:46 <andythenorth> https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.windowsonmaine.org/download.aspx%253Ffile%253D/objects/1-184.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.windowsonmaine.org/fullrecord.aspx?objectId%3D1-184&h=826&w=1000&tbnid=AI68-sBYUDctGM:&docid=UxgeSLgD6zAfYM&ei=eS3zVZyeKYff7AbmjLLIBQ&tbm=isch&client=safari&ved=0CCoQMygKMApqFQoTCNy-l8Xd78cCFYcv2wodZoYMWQ 19:39:54 <andythenorth> impressive though 19:45:27 <andythenorth> oh Steam 19:45:37 <andythenorth> auto-updating 1.3GB 19:45:41 <andythenorth> what larks 19:46:12 <andythenorth> in the old days, I could just play the game 19:46:19 <Wolf01> eh 19:46:21 <andythenorth> nowâŠSteam 19:46:32 <andythenorth> âthe gameâ = Euro Truck Simulator :P 19:46:33 <Wolf01> but it's for your good 19:46:57 <andythenorth> :P 19:47:01 <andythenorth> their UI sucks 19:47:40 <Wolf01> i don't know if continue to play with train fever or just leave it there waiting for another update which makes rail crossings possible 19:48:09 * andythenorth might play OpenTTD 19:49:59 <Wolf01> i would play ottd too, but i don't want to set a good combination of grfs.. it takes hours 19:50:45 <andythenorth> is a problem 19:50:56 <andythenorth> shareable preset? 19:51:01 <andythenorth> donât use grfs? 19:51:16 <Wolf01> yes, i always forget to put in something, like some weird station set or the waypoints or the trams... 19:51:29 <andythenorth> FIRS, Iron Horse, Termite, Squid, AV9, Road Hog, TAI, OpenGFX+ Airports 19:51:31 <andythenorth> done 19:51:48 <andythenorth> eh, forgot CHIPS 19:52:00 <Wolf01> see 19:52:09 <ST2> and to mention: FIRS 2.0.0 alpha1 19:52:10 <ST2> xD 19:52:14 <andythenorth> I should just put them all in andythenorth.grf 19:52:19 <andythenorth> and pikka can make pikka.grf 19:52:41 <andythenorth> choose an economy, all industries, cargos and vehicles match 19:59:26 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 20:03:12 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18A83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:15:21 <Supercheese> one grf to rule them all 20:17:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:20:29 *** alluke [~3e4eedab@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:24:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:28:06 <alluke> andu i heard you've been looking for me? 20:32:01 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 20:45:44 <andythenorth> alluke: which ottd version is that FIRS screenshot from? 20:49:43 <alluke> 1.5.2 20:50:00 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 20:51:51 <andythenorth> which FIRS economy? o_O 20:52:00 <andythenorth> I canât replicate it 20:52:37 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:56 <alluke> full 20:53:10 <alluke> i noticed that i had set amount of cities to 3 20:53:16 <alluke> that might have triggered it 20:55:10 <Sylf> 3 cities on the whole map? 20:55:21 <alluke> yeah xD 20:55:24 <Sylf> how big is the map? 20:55:33 <alluke> 1024x1024 20:56:43 <andythenorth> 3 20:56:49 * andythenorth tests 20:58:01 <andythenorth> replicated 20:58:20 <andythenorth> yeah, I have nothing for that 21:02:38 <andythenorth> bed time 21:02:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:04:37 *** alluke [~3e4eedab@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:11:11 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-143-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: nacht] 21:11:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f74652a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:13:22 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@46.66.173.46.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:15:01 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@c7815BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18A83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:04 *** sla_ro|master2 [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:52:57 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 22:01:55 <Eddi|zuHause> is anyone ever annoyed that you cannot drive away a fly from the screen with your mouse? 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