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00:59:55 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:02:26 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@58.108.147.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:14 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:15:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6B4CB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 01:20:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A024.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:31:59 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD42B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:38:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD42B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:50:32 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 02:55:51 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:56:31 *** Pikka [~Octomom@c114-77-161-48.fitzg3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:52:35 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD42B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5B0DA18D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:32 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-82-143.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:12:47 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-82-143.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 05:28:39 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d820003.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 05:48:42 <Flygon> Looking at it 05:48:49 <Flygon> Most of the OpenTTD Wiki junctions 05:48:55 <Flygon> Are in zero way built for realistic acceleration x.x 06:10:02 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:10:13 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [] 06:10:54 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20:21 *** Zr40 [~zr40@000128ef.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:45:06 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 07:06:33 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:15:12 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 07:21:43 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.101.36] has joined #openttd 07:35:51 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:35:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 07:36:22 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 07:42:12 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:45 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 08:13:08 <Eddi|zuHause> most of the wiki junctions i would never ever build 08:14:11 <V453000> nobody with brain would 08:14:30 <V453000> regardless if realistic or efficient brain 08:15:29 <Flygon> Then WHY are they on the Wiki? 08:15:35 <Flygon> They're just so... 08:15:38 <Flygon> Why? 08:15:45 <Flygon> As in, that's the word, to describe them 08:15:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon: it's a wiki, fix it? 08:15:54 <Flygon> Not me repeating "Why are they on the Wiki" 08:16:01 <Flygon> Mate, I'm... trust me 08:16:11 <Flygon> My junctions go for aesthetic over practicality 08:16:17 <Flygon> I aim to make them look like IRL ones 08:16:18 <Flygon> Usually. 08:16:25 <Flygon> The 'enhanced' cloverleaf is an exemptoon 08:17:16 <Flygon> There is, in theory, more efficient 'seamless' junctions for the same purpose 08:17:23 <Flygon> But they look far uglier 08:17:44 <Flygon> And would have one minor downside... 08:18:01 <Flygon> Less capacity, in edge circumstances 08:22:15 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 08:39:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 09:17:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:50 <Wolf01> moin 09:23:06 *** __ln__ [~lauri@2001:2003:50de:2a46:250:43ff:fe01:4a71] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:32:59 *** snorre [~snorre@158-77-8.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33:11 *** snorre [~snorre@158-77-8.connect.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 09:48:28 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:56:10 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 10:37:04 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 10:43:50 *** KrunchyAl [~quassel@46.101.211.106] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 11:26:29 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 11:26:44 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [] 11:27:45 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 11:27:57 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [] 11:32:54 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:29 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:04 *** DDR [~David@S0106001f16aa47bc.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 12:07:40 <andythenorth> o/ 12:08:02 <Wolf01> \o 12:10:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 12:38:04 <Pikka> o? 12:38:31 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:39:40 <andythenorth> yes 12:39:45 <peter1138> ____oOOo__\\ O ^ O ///__oOOo____ 12:40:01 <andythenorth> showing off 12:47:44 <V453000> . 12:52:59 <Pikka> , 13:03:12 <Wolf01> ; 13:06:44 *** Pikka [~Octomom@c114-77-161-48.fitzg3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:28 <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r27399 trunk/Makefile.bundle.in (2015-09-17 15:12:21 +0200 ) 13:12:29 <DorpsGek> -Fix: [Makefile] game script directory and compat*.nut were never installed on *nix 13:12:30 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@a392.ip16.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 13:23:00 *** jefferyw [~afreaknoo@S010610feed844de4.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:39 <jefferyw> help I am crashing with sound issues 13:23:40 <jefferyw> https://bpaste.net/show/c36e1b016578 13:23:54 <jefferyw> gdb backtrace included 13:25:42 <jefferyw> oh openttd in the repos is still 1.3.3 13:30:58 <FLHerne> Aargh, that's impressively ancient 13:31:40 <jefferyw> is this problem also ancient? 13:36:35 <jefferyw> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openttd/ 13:36:54 <jefferyw> I spot in this repo 1.5.1 13:37:06 <jefferyw> why is it not included in 14.04 13:37:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 13:37:43 <jefferyw> sorted it would be 13:37:44 <jefferyw> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openttd/?C=M;O=D 13:53:17 <jefferyw> well when a dev gets this message please push openttd 1.5.1 into the ubuntu universe repo and allow install on 14.04 trusty 13:53:50 <jefferyw> and take a look at my backtrace from gdb 13:54:01 <jefferyw> https://bpaste.net/show/c36e1b016578 13:54:22 *** jefferyw [~afreaknoo@S010610feed844de4.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56:17 <planetmaker> jefferyw ... hm... we can't do anything about that. Nor is the backtrace really that helpful... 13:56:26 <planetmaker> everything stripped 13:56:49 <planetmaker> and of course he left :S 13:57:15 <wito> Ugh. 13:57:37 <wito> I'm using FISH and ECS, and I cannot for the -life- of me stabilize the rating for an oilrig at above 72 % 13:58:32 <wito> And I cannot figure out what the problem is. 13:59:05 <wito> I have 6 ships, timetabled so they arrive 20 days apart, staying for 40 days to load. 13:59:11 <wito> They're slow, but still, come on! 13:59:14 <planetmaker> do the ECS docs say anything? 14:00:42 <wito> Does ECS affect rating? 14:04:00 <planetmaker> dunno. It can control it 14:04:30 <planetmaker> Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. 14:13:44 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 14:14:21 <wito> Well, I've managed to turn my transport network all higgledy-piggledy anyway, so will probably start anew. 14:14:33 <wito> Avoiding oil rigs in favor of oil fields 14:20:51 *** __ln__ [~lauri@2001:2003:50de:2a46:250:43ff:fe01:4a71] has joined #openttd 14:29:42 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:03 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 15:03:30 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 15:11:53 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18954.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:09:39 *** NGC3982 [~hawking@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:14:36 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-99-140.dsl.tropolys.de] has joined #openttd 16:21:15 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:33:09 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 16:36:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d009778.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 16:38:08 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:41:24 *** hawking [~hawking@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:42:01 <frosch123> sometimes i have no words for what is happening in the chat log 16:42:04 *** hawking is now known as Guest2023 16:43:07 *** Guest2023 is now known as NGC3982 16:48:30 <planetmaker> o/ 16:48:36 <planetmaker> what leaves you so speechless, frosch123 ? :) 16:49:19 <frosch123> the guy running openttd in a debugger, then manually interrupting the process, getting the backtrace at whatever point ottd was running, and then reporting it as a crash backtrace 16:50:12 <planetmaker> ah :) 16:50:25 <frosch123> he probably heard that you need backtraces for crash reports, and googled how to create a backtrace, but not understanding that there is a relation between crash and backtrace :p 16:51:43 <planetmaker> there sure is :P 16:52:21 <frosch123> it's like replacing the fuse in your house, when the light of your car doesn't work 16:52:43 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:00 <planetmaker> :) 16:53:17 <planetmaker> might work for a Tesla in need of a re-charge :P 16:53:47 <frosch123> i thought you can charge them for free when you do some extra detour, so it counts as long distance travel 16:57:08 <planetmaker> dunno.. I never drove one nor am I currently in the position to afford one :) 16:57:48 <frosch123> you cannot afford to buy one or you cannot afford to steal one? :p 17:03:45 <wito> "This timetable will take 1,408 days to complete" 17:04:19 <frosch123> does it include the construction of the engine? 17:05:18 <frosch123> or the schooling of the driver? 17:05:56 <wito> Nope. Just a 677 day leg. 17:06:17 <wito> But it's at 60 km/h, so a few years down the road it'll improve. 17:07:29 <frosch123> @calc 1408*24*60 / 1000 17:07:29 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 2027.52 17:10:23 <wito> So, um... 17:10:31 <wito> One 20th of the way around the earth. 17:10:33 <wito> None too shabby. 17:10:36 <frosch123> well, it's about 7 times to the moon, not sure whether that is enough to reach mars 17:11:05 <frosch123> wito: did you miss the "/ 1000" 17:11:20 <wito> Oh, right. 17:11:36 <wito> God damned unit-less calculator! 17:11:43 * wito shakes his fist in the air. 17:12:51 <wito> 6.8 light seconds. 17:13:01 <wito> That's far. 17:14:58 <wito> But "only" about a hundreth of the mean distance between Earth and Mars. 17:26:13 <planetmaker> frosch123, either would be the best choice now :P 17:26:46 <Rubidium> wito: just imagine how big a 4096x4096 map would be with those calculations ;) 17:27:55 <wito> Well, my 677 day thing is about 1600 tiles. 17:28:16 <planetmaker> as to distances... 7 times the moon is tiny compared to earth-mars distance :) 17:28:22 <wito> So let's say 1000 days for 2048 tiles, 2000 for the full 4096 17:28:31 <planetmaker> 400.000 vs. 150.000.000.000 17:28:43 <planetmaker> well. add *7 on the left hand side 17:29:05 <frosch123> yeah, i stopped when i did not know how far it is to the mars, but i probably should have guessed that it is more than 7 times :p 17:29:23 <wito> o.O 17:29:25 <planetmaker> the distance varies. And... a straight line is not quickest anyway :) 17:29:34 <wito> According to these calculations. 17:29:47 <planetmaker> quickest possible way is around 4...5 months travel 17:29:49 <wito> The area of a 4096**2 map is... 17:29:49 <planetmaker> one-way 17:30:04 <wito> One and a half times the surface area of the sun. 17:30:07 <wito> o.O 17:30:14 <planetmaker> of the *sun*? 17:30:33 <wito> Of the **sun**. 17:31:02 <Rubidium> well, it's fairly simple... a tile is 668x668 km 17:31:09 <planetmaker> :) 17:31:41 <planetmaker> 1000 tiles thus are the radius of the sun :) 17:31:50 <wito> Oh, my math is off. 17:32:00 <wito> It's only 1.2 times the surface area of the sun. 17:32:30 <Rubidium> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=668km+*+668km+*+4096*4096 17:33:14 <wito> I prefer (668 km * 4096) ** 2, but whatever floats your boat. :) 17:34:11 <Rubidium> likewise, a 4096 tile map is 7 times the distance to the moon ;) 17:34:18 <Rubidium> (yay wolframalpha) 17:35:42 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36:31 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 17:36:56 <Rubidium> but yes, the standard reply to people asking for 8192x8192 maps is asking whether they really need five times the surface area of the sun 17:39:47 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:07 <wito> The scale is kind of messed up, tho'. :P 17:41:31 <wito> Because the roads are _clearly_ not 668 km wide. P: 17:42:01 <Taede> not to mention towns the size of countries 17:42:16 <wito> Towns the size of _Earth_ 17:42:21 <wito> city blocks the size of countries. 17:43:04 <frosch123> how much does it slow the rotation of the earth, if you cover the surface with buildings that tall? :p 17:43:49 <Taede> on earth, it would be problematic 17:43:53 <Taede> dyson sphere would cope 17:44:27 <wito> Well, at a rough estimate the taller end of buildings in OpenTTD is what, 4 or 5 tiles wide? 17:44:45 <wito> So, 3 to 4 Mm. 17:46:01 <frosch123> sounds like you need to dig up a lot of lava to build them :p 17:46:46 <wito> Yeah. 17:47:08 <wito> I'm guessing that the effect would be roughly similar in magnitude to the slowing effect of the moon. 17:51:53 <frosch123> really? i would guess it halfes the speed 17:52:20 <frosch123> i think we are talking about moving half the mass of the earth to twice the distance from center 17:53:36 <wito> What kind of density are you working with? 17:54:40 <frosch123> maybe 1? 17:54:56 <frosch123> i am not sure how much a m³ of house weights :p 17:55:20 <wito> I think 1 is a reasonable estimate. 17:55:25 <wito> Somewhere between 1 and maybe 3? 17:55:39 <frosch123> there is a lot of air in a house :) 17:55:51 <frosch123> though maybe not in the upper levels :p 17:55:52 <wito> Although if it's built like some kind of as ship, it'd have to be less than 1. 17:56:17 <wito> But let's say 1 exactly. 17:56:41 <frosch123> also assuming the houses touches on the ground, there will be some distance between houses at the top :p 17:57:00 <wito> That would make it a lot like freezing the Earth's oceans and building a skyscraper from teh ice. 17:57:24 <wito> In terms of how much it is. 17:58:49 <frosch123> well, but 3000 km thick 17:59:06 <frosch123> the ocean is like 20 km in the deepest spot :p 17:59:08 <wito> 3000 km tall, 668 * 668 km at the base. 17:59:30 <wito> It's one 4000th of the mass of the earth. 18:03:37 <wito> But a whole town would -seriously- slow down the earth. 18:07:36 *** NGC3982 [~hawking@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10:18 <wito> Or, well, not really. 18:10:35 <wito> It'd pretty rapidly collapse in on itself. 18:11:28 <frosch123> well, you also reduce gravity, don't you? 18:13:53 <wito> Not enough. 18:14:40 <wito> And it's all the same mass, so the total gravitational attraction stays the same. 18:14:56 <wito> The Earth -really- wants to be round. 18:16:50 <planetmaker> you need 70.000 km high skyscraper with sufficient (inner) strength ;) 18:17:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:08 <andythenorth> o/ 18:17:20 <planetmaker> geo-stationary orbit is at 35.000km. Then it carries its own weight. But the tension... 18:17:26 <planetmaker> \o 18:18:24 <planetmaker> though... that only works with a mostly mass-less 'rope' instead of a thing with signifiant fraction of the Earth's mass 18:18:32 <planetmaker> *significant 18:20:01 <andythenorth> ah fuck it, FIRS is borked anyway for stable players 18:20:08 <andythenorth> I might as well merge the v2 branch to default 18:20:13 <andythenorth> then at least I can get translations 18:22:29 <andythenorth> are branch merges scary on hg 18:22:32 <andythenorth> letâs find out :P 18:22:39 <andythenorth> planetmaker: repo has backups, right? :P 18:23:58 <planetmaker> we do have some backups, yes... What you want to do? 18:24:11 <andythenorth> I am going to merge the âsnakebiteâ branch of FIRS into âdefault' 18:24:14 <andythenorth> should be clean, but eh 18:24:26 <andythenorth> I tend to break hg because I use it as though itâs git 18:24:36 <andythenorth> I used to break it because I used it like svn :P 18:24:42 <andythenorth> potato / potato 18:24:50 <planetmaker> well. you do it locally first anyway. So if it breaks, it breaks on your machine. Then simply clone anew 18:25:34 <andythenorth> seems to have worked 18:25:39 <planetmaker> though I don't see what can break in a merge except you getting results you don't want due to making the merge the wrong way or so :) 18:25:46 <andythenorth> now eints will pick it up 18:25:49 <planetmaker> or using the wrong merge algo :) 18:25:54 <andythenorth> fat fingers 18:26:02 <andythenorth> or error between keyboard and chair :P 18:26:07 <andythenorth> itâs ok it went fine 18:26:16 <andythenorth> I have been merging default into snakebite regularly 18:26:19 *** hawking [~hawking@h215n4-vj-d3.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:26:33 *** hawking is now known as NGC3982 18:26:48 <peter1138> i figured it would be useful to have a changelog in my repo 18:26:49 <andythenorth> I am sad that FIRS is currently non-available on bananas for most players, but eh 18:26:56 <andythenorth> you have a repo? :o 18:27:17 <peter1138> except it turns out it's a major pain, because you end up with conflicts on any merge purely because of the changelog entries... 18:28:01 <andythenorth> try having language files around 18:28:08 <andythenorth> with an extraction date baked into the file :( 18:28:16 <andythenorth> meh to that 18:28:39 <peter1138> mmm baked 18:28:51 <peter1138> yeah, similar pointless thing :) 18:29:00 <andythenorth> changelog goes in the milestone branch, not the feature branch :P 18:29:03 <andythenorth> problem solved 18:29:12 <andythenorth> or go big, put it straight into master 18:30:20 <wito> Or build a changelog from commit messages at some time down the road. 18:31:32 <peter1138> wito, yeah basically that 18:32:34 <andythenorth> who made eints UI :P 18:32:40 <andythenorth> itâs confusing 18:32:52 <andythenorth> and also, non-retina icons :( 18:32:55 <andythenorth> ugh 18:33:00 <peter1138> heh 18:33:04 <peter1138> font-awesome! 18:33:16 <peter1138> someone get me a roland juno-ds 18:40:13 <andythenorth> the problem with eints 18:40:18 <andythenorth> is that the developers got bored 18:40:22 <andythenorth> and moved on to other things 18:40:29 <andythenorth> standard :P 18:41:50 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause> <frosch123> yeah, i stopped when i did not know how far it is to the mars, but i probably should have guessed that it is more than 7 times :p <-- i'd estimate something in the order of 0,5 to 1,5 AU, depending on positions 18:45:35 <Eddi|zuHause> or the other estimate is, assuming the distribution of the inner planets is fairly even, the radius of the orbits are 0,3; 0,6; 1; 1,3 18:46:22 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, 0.5 and 2.5 ;) 18:46:34 <Eddi|zuHause> err, of course 18:46:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i do think i meant to write that 18:47:07 <Eddi|zuHause> but something interfered inbetween my thought and my writing 18:49:09 <NGC3982> I'm so tired. 18:50:14 <andythenorth> I find itâs my thoughts that interfere with my writing :( 18:52:44 <wito> Interplanetary distance is unimaginably large. 18:53:20 <andythenorth> it is? o_O 18:53:30 <Eddi|zuHause> there are still different levels of unimaginable :p 18:53:35 <wito> True. 18:53:53 <wito> It's nowhere near as unimaginable as -interstellar- distance. 18:54:00 <andythenorth> I think itâs similar unimaginable to having your first child, newborn, and imagining them being 3 years old 18:54:06 <andythenorth> is my guess 18:54:33 <andythenorth> to travel that journey just takes time,