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[~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:07:36 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has joined #openttd 15:21:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:11 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:45 * andythenorth smells wrong architecture :| 15:37:13 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:41:30 <argoneus> good morning train friends 15:42:37 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you mean like romanesque instead of gothic? 16:06:04 <andythenorth> python equivalent yes 16:23:29 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:45 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: well, means your churches might not be quite as tall, but definitely more defensive. 16:30:17 <andythenorth> I have subclassed vehicles where I should have subclassed consists 16:30:18 <andythenorth> but eh 16:30:19 <andythenorth> nvm 16:33:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:42:13 <andythenorth> stuff that only works by accident 16:42:16 * andythenorth does not like 16:52:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d011074.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 16:55:50 <argoneus> it's frodo 16:55:53 <argoneus> o/ 17:07:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:12:27 <andythenorth> ha ha 17:12:32 <andythenorth> itâs all such a mess :D 17:12:33 <andythenorth> but it works 17:14:58 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:41 <Alberth> throw it all away, and write it again, but properly this time :p 17:17:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d011074.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 17:18:03 <andythenorth> âproperlyâ 17:21:19 <Alberth> I'd settle for the author to consider it better than the previous attempt :) 17:21:45 <andythenorth> itâs better than the previous attempt 17:22:00 <andythenorth> the degree of âwrongâ is more sophisticated 17:24:50 <Alberth> :) 17:25:09 <Alberth> the burden of improved understanding :p 17:26:40 <Alberth> I tried the AUS trains by GarryG as they are so nicely colourful, but toooo many engines :( 17:28:40 <andythenorth> survey set, as pikka calls them 17:28:40 <andythenorth> :) 17:28:53 <andythenorth> I am happy to see someone turn up and have fun making it :) 17:30:45 <Alberth> oh definitely good to see 17:35:46 <V453000> sup humanz 17:36:37 <andythenorth> sup V453000 17:36:39 <andythenorth> max automation 17:55:33 <V453000> getting brix to working mode 17:56:20 <argoneus> brix? 17:56:39 <V453000> yes 17:59:19 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:59:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:59:54 <argoneus> what tdat 18:00:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:48 * andythenorth lost in PIL :P 18:03:28 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:22:21 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 18:27:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6A3B9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:34:20 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5164a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:39:04 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0263c4.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:06:45 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 19:48:17 *** gelignite_ [~gelignite@x4db5164a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:49:08 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 19:49:32 <George> HHi 19:49:56 <George> translator.openttdcoop.org 19:50:05 <George> has problems 19:50:20 <George> Error: 500 Internal Server Error 19:50:20 <George> Sorry, the requested URL 'http://translator.openttdcoop.org, translator.openttdcoop.org/string/xussrset/ru_RU/STR_REFIT_GORKOV_RAILWAY' caused an error: 19:50:20 <George> Internal Server Error 19:50:33 <George> Please help 19:50:57 <Wolf01> it doesn't look a valid url 19:51:06 <glx> works for me 19:51:33 <glx> oups wrong reading 19:51:55 <George> I just try to edit a string 19:52:11 <George> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/string/xussrset/ru_RU/STR_REFIT_GORKOV_RAILWAY 19:52:49 <George> When I press Save button I get the error 19:54:29 <glx> maybe a problem in the string 19:55:12 <George> The same error with any string I edit 19:55:26 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5164a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:21 <glx> so editing outdated strings 19:57:37 <glx> and other strings too ? 20:01:10 <juzza1> Same here (https://translator.openttdcoop.org/translation/frissrails/fi_FI), adding missing strings works fine, but updating outdated strings fails 20:02:29 <George> Yes, problem with outdated strings 20:05:28 <glx> I guess it's something for Alberth or andythenorth 20:11:23 *** dpk [~dpk@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined #openttd 20:11:31 <Alberth> frosch may have changed things there 20:11:54 <andythenorth> at a guess, itâs just concatenating the wrong url 20:12:01 <andythenorth> nobody else has reported it yet 20:12:12 * andythenorth looks at commits 20:12:43 <Alberth> it's not in the eints repo 20:12:56 <andythenorth> ah 20:13:05 <andythenorth> and also oh 20:13:19 <dpk> are the FIRS German translators around? / sind die deutsche Ãbersetzer fÃŒr FIRS hier? 20:13:41 <dpk> or someone from the FIRS team 20:13:50 <andythenorth> planetmaker is here 20:13:53 <dpk> i was just working through the latest missing and outdated strings 20:13:55 <Alberth> I don't have access to the server either 20:14:06 <andythenorth> also me, but my german is poor 20:14:32 <dpk> and i wasn't sure how to translate "Supply Yard" or any of the strings involving the apparently new cargo "Pyrite" 20:14:43 <dpk> what does the Supply Yard actually do? 20:14:55 <dpk> what's it supposed to be a model of? 20:15:20 <andythenorth> google translate says âPyrit Erzâ for âPyrite Ore" 20:15:26 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrite 20:16:35 <andythenorth> Supply Yard is slightly made up 20:16:37 <andythenorth> but 20:16:38 <andythenorth> http://www.clarkemachinery.ie/App_User_Files/image/RoscommonYard161012crop.jpg 20:16:58 <andythenorth> http://www.robertdaviesmachinery.co.uk/images/about-us.jpg 20:17:46 <Alberth> supplies reseller :) 20:18:06 <andythenorth> http://www.abeletractor.com/construction-equipment/images-const-pro/history/Abele-Tractor-Equipment-Co.jpg 20:18:20 <dpk> also: "2 crates per 8 litres chemicals delivered" in STR_EXTRA_TYRE_PLANT â is that a mistake? usually chemicals are measured by 1000 litres, not 1 litre 20:18:27 <dpk> oh okay hmm 20:20:02 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [] 20:20:21 <dpk> "litre" is also abbreviate as "l" in other strings 20:20:26 <dpk> *abbreviated 20:21:52 <andythenorth> yes itâs a mistake that itâs not 1000 litres :) 20:21:53 <andythenorth> thanks 20:22:38 * andythenorth fixes 20:23:32 <andythenorth> pushed, will show up in English by tomorrow usually 20:36:04 <michi_cc> dpk: The matching word for andy's images would probably be "Landmaschinenhandel", at least if it's supposed to be mainly about agricultural machinery. 20:36:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause> what about "Nachschublager"? 20:44:53 <dpk> i think michi_cc was right with Landmaschinenhandel 20:45:11 <dpk> based on the photos 20:46:25 <andythenorth> itâs a made-up industry mind 20:46:31 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:46:38 <andythenorth> it could as much be a supply yard for an oil drilling company, or such 20:46:57 <dpk> oh, hmm 20:48:00 <andythenorth> something like this http://www.arvinepipe.com/photos/full%20yard%20ariel%20image_lg1.jpg 20:51:45 <andythenorth> ha found it :) http://www.savannaenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/yard_2-1000x6671-1000x667.jpg 20:51:53 <andythenorth> same type of building :) 20:52:59 <dpk> hmm 20:53:29 <Alberth> supplies supplier :) 20:54:21 <dpk> Versorgungsversorger 21:16:27 *** Doink [~oftc-webi@lund-conlon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:16:37 *** Doink [~oftc-webi@lund-conlon.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 21:21:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:25:02 <andythenorth> https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1263/5139186495_9c8f8185ee_b.jpg 21:25:50 <Alberth> ha :) 21:25:54 <Alberth> gn 21:35:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:36:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:36:40 *** andythenorth 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Does it still persist? 21:52:26 <dpk> no? no problems 21:52:34 <planetmaker> ok :) 21:52:35 <dpk> i was unsure about some German translations 21:52:41 <planetmaker> just reading diagonal through backlog 21:52:56 <dpk> uncertainty persists, though i did submit "Landmaschinenhandel" for "Supply Yard" 21:53:06 <dpk> which i might still change 21:53:24 <planetmaker> I think it's a reasonable translation 21:53:32 <planetmaker> farm supplies, yes? 21:53:41 <planetmaker> otherwise just "Landhandel" 21:53:41 <dpk> well, not just farm supplies, is the point 21:53:58 <planetmaker> thinking of Raiffeisen & Co... 21:54:03 <dpk> could be machinery for other things 21:54:25 <planetmaker> well... Landmaschinen is a broad range of machinery :) 21:55:31 <dpk> the main remaining difficulty is "pyrite" and "pyrite smelter" in particular 21:56:12 <planetmaker> I still think that pyrite is just a special form for iron ore 21:58:09 <dpk> "PyritschmelzhÃŒtte" was my original idea. Google gives nothing though 21:59:02 <planetmaker> However I'd not become too inventive there. I'd translate it with "Pyrit" and the industry... 21:59:14 <planetmaker> ... difficult to come up with something which really makes sense IMHO 22:02:32 <planetmaker> if it's modern, it still would be a 'Hochofen', if not that new, it might just be a 'HÃŒtte' - but that sounds strange 22:02:52 <planetmaker> maybe just Schmelzofen? 22:03:11 <dpk> "Schmelzerei" was another one linguee.de suggested 22:04:03 <planetmaker> I go by reading the wiki articles and similar which describe the processes instead of using a dictionary :) 22:04:45 <dpk> but tellingly, there are no instances of the word "pyrite" in connection with the word "smelt" anywhere in their ENâDE bilingual corpus ⊠22:05:37 <planetmaker> I'm not surprised. You'd need a technical dictionary for those, I recon 22:06:03 <dpk> for which i found https://books.google.de/books?id=SqKzBgAAQBAJ, but nothing useful there even 22:06:04 <planetmaker> and technically a smelter doesn't care whether you add pyrite or another metal ore 22:06:20 <planetmaker> that link is 404 22:06:30 <dpk> https://books.google.de/books?id=SqKzBgAAQBAJ 22:06:34 <dpk> probably included the comma 22:06:37 <planetmaker> ah, comma, yes, thx 22:07:21 <planetmaker> well. As said, I can recommend to not try an exact translation but to use a word which occurs in the processes being mimiced by that industry 22:07:47 <planetmaker> it helped me with some other industries, too. Especially the supply-producing ones :) 22:09:53 <planetmaker> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgie#Ofentechnik ... I think "Schmelzofen" seems still fine as it doesn't suggest an (advanced) 'Hochofen' 22:11:17 <dpk> "Pyritschmelzofen"? it doesn't accept other forms of ore 22:12:40 <planetmaker> it doesn't matter. There is no other ore 22:13:05 <planetmaker> oh, there is. Bauxite 22:13:24 <dpk> and Iron Ore 22:14:00 <planetmaker> doesn't show in the arctic economy. And that's where it's only used 22:14:10 <dpk> Bauxite isn't such a problem, since it's refined by electrolysis 22:14:17 <dpk> oh, really? hmm 22:14:23 <dpk> interesting 22:14:58 <planetmaker> I needed to check, too: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#arctic_basic 22:15:06 <dpk> oh hang on 22:15:13 <dpk> what's pyrite ore? 22:15:37 <dpk> should i just call it pyrite? 22:15:38 <planetmaker> Pyrit. Or Schwefelkies 22:15:47 <dpk> right 22:16:05 <planetmaker> which basically is iron sulfide ore 22:16:40 <planetmaker> with various other additions, sometimes found with some copper included, too 22:19:16 <dpk> okay, done. check out the pyrite strings https://translator.openttdcoop.org/translation/firs/de_DE 22:19:44 <dpk> oh, whoops 22:19:48 * dpk fixes a misspelling 22:21:46 <planetmaker> looks fine to me 22:22:08 <planetmaker> I'm currently thinking whether we actually should go for the common name of "Schwefelkies" rather than the more technical name of "Pyrit" 22:22:21 <planetmaker> As it also explains why you get both, metal and sufur (chemicals) 22:23:28 <dpk> i was originally stuck between Pyrit and Eisenkies 22:23:48 <planetmaker> "Pyrit, auch als Schwefelkies, Eisenkies, Katzengold oder Narrengold bekannt..." 22:24:30 <dpk> Pyrit is Hkk 20, Schwefelkies "keine Ergebnisse gefunden" (?), Eisenkies Hkk 22 on http://wortschatz.uni-leipzig.de/ 22:25:17 <dpk> (lower Hkk = more frequent, hence probably more likely to be understood) 22:26:41 <planetmaker> interesting. Agreed 22:26:50 <planetmaker> I shall bookmark that link :) 22:27:39 <planetmaker> and Pyrit is Hkk 20. So stay with Pyrit probably 22:29:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never heard "schwefelkies" before 22:29:17 <planetmaker> me neither. 22:29:39 <planetmaker> tbh I doubt many people ran accross Pyrit or Eisenkies before either 22:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i've definitely heard about Pyrit and Katzengold 22:32:05 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0263c4.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 22:32:24 <planetmaker> Katzengold is the most common word for it ;) But I find it wrong to use in this context 22:32:41 <dpk> yeah, i wouldn't use that 22:32:58 <dpk> i assume it's like "fool's gold" in English 22:33:10 <dpk> well-known, but very informal name 22:36:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19F04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:02 <planetmaker> yes 22:37:41 <planetmaker> As a child I knew already what Katzengold looks like; and probably many children do 22:37:54 <planetmaker> but it was only during my studies that I ran across Pyrit 22:38:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i learned about both in school chemistry 22:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> probably at the same time 22:44:46 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:17 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:09:28 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit [] 23:33:05 *** ale [aprendiz@0001177c.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [Leaving] 23:42:18 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd