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Point is, there's a vulnerability fixed 6 days ago, so an update is not an unsound idea 16:51:13 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:00:14 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:00:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:00:45 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:08:06 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 17:14:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:20:54 <LordAro> Alkel_U3: irssi 4 lyfe 17:21:39 <Alkel_U3> LordAro: well don't get me started, that's sort of like vim vs emacs :D 17:22:22 <LordAro> vim 17:22:24 <LordAro> :p 17:22:33 <Alkel_U3> great... XCOM crashed while I switched focus to write a reply... 17:22:46 <Alkel_U3> ok, that I agree with :D 17:22:59 <LordAro> heh 17:23:34 <Alkel_U3> I learned to use vim through installing Pentadactyl to Firefox 17:25:06 <Alkel_U3> although "I use vim because I couldn't figure out how to quit" is perhaps more amusing 17:25:41 <LordAro> i spend a lot of time on remote servers, nano is too basic, emacs is too silly 17:45:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27860 trunk/src/lang/gaelic.txt (2017-04-28 19:45:37 +0200 ) 17:45:47 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 17:45:48 <DorpsGek> scottish gaelic: 4 changes by GunChleoc 17:49:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:49:37 <andythenorth> o/ 17:49:41 * andythenorth been busy 17:50:11 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 17:58:05 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 18:02:27 <quiznilo> http://pr0n.fea.st/borg-secret-revealed.png 18:02:35 <quiznilo> clever or autistic? 18:02:37 <quiznilo> who knows 18:15:04 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 18:16:02 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 18:16:50 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:35:44 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:52:26 <andythenorth> quak 18:58:16 <frosch123> moi 19:13:03 <peter1138> oink 19:13:49 <Wolf01> Quak, o/ 19:25:03 *** chomwitt1 has joined #openttd 19:28:34 *** chomwitt2 has joined #openttd 19:31:23 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 19:35:01 *** chomwitt1 has quit IRC 19:45:17 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 19:49:33 <supermop_> is it as nice out in europe as it is here today? 19:49:43 <supermop_> no one spending any time indoors? 19:50:01 <andythenorth> fricking cold 19:50:08 <Wolf01> I'm just returned from the pub 19:50:53 <supermop_> its 80 something here 19:50:58 <supermop_> bright sun 19:51:07 <supermop_> and i've been in meetings all day 19:51:11 <Wolf01> 80 potatoes? 19:51:28 <Wolf01> 14°C here, strong wind and rain for 3 days 19:51:29 <supermop_> something, may as well be potatos 19:51:39 <supermop_> works out to about 30 turnips 19:54:18 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 19:54:55 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 19:55:12 <supermop_> https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/getting-around/network-changes/tram-changes/ 19:55:30 <supermop_> still get emails about this stuff 19:55:36 <supermop_> wish i was still there 19:57:04 <supermop_> i wonder if they exercised the option to buy more E-classes 20:03:29 *** Tirili has joined #openttd 20:09:05 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:09:36 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:14:08 <andythenorth> such 20:14:12 <andythenorth> is it pixels? 20:16:33 <LordAro> voxels 20:24:56 *** mescalito has quit IRC 20:32:17 <peter1138> cubicles 20:33:17 <quiznilo> http://i.imgur.com/6sBadtE.png the best primary industry station in a FIRS/Wierd Time Skew world 20:43:50 <supermop_> bought ramps 20:44:52 <supermop_> quiznilo: is there a reason trains serving 1 station are forced to service, and those serving the other are not? 20:47:03 *** Coobies has joined #openttd 20:58:07 <quiznilo> welp 20:58:32 <andythenorth> supermop: eh how to fix this? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#arctic_basic 20:58:35 <quiznilo> all trains pickup at A and dropoff at B... they spend the majority of time idling at A 20:58:47 <andythenorth> 16 industries looks very sparse 20:59:01 <supermop_> andythenorth: whats wrong with it? 20:59:11 <supermop_> add more that do the same thing? 20:59:12 <quiznilo> so I put depots all over the pickup stations, and generally ignore dropoffs because usually they're already serviced when they get to dropoff 20:59:19 <andythenorth> the other basic economies have around 19 industries 20:59:43 <andythenorth> printing works? :P 20:59:48 <quiznilo> seal clubbing? 20:59:51 <quiznilo> whaling? 21:00:00 <supermop_> quiznilo: its not canada or norway 21:00:06 <quiznilo> oh right 21:00:16 <supermop_> andythenorth: export iore to english bloomeries 21:00:28 <andythenorth> maybe 21:00:43 <supermop_> would be simple and timelessly swedish 21:00:56 <andythenorth> bulk terminal could accept it 21:01:10 <andythenorth> I could also import grain, and re-add flour mill and brewery 21:01:23 <supermop_> fmsp but no farms? 21:01:32 <supermop_> add a 'rye' farm 21:01:46 <supermop_> im sure mb will appreciate rye as a new cargo 21:01:54 <andythenorth> fmsp -> forest only 21:02:02 <andythenorth> partly because it comes from explosives factory :P 21:02:17 <supermop_> seems overkill for felling trees 21:02:29 <andythenorth> actually, it comes from trading post 21:02:31 <andythenorth> ah I remember 21:03:03 <andythenorth> something about fertiliser and farms 21:05:43 <supermop_> beer seems appropriate, not sure if port->beer->port is fun though 21:06:36 <supermop_> seems a bit light on manufacturing 21:06:55 <andythenorth> yair 21:07:15 <andythenorth> dunno if hunting camp works 21:07:18 <andythenorth> it kind of should 21:07:26 <supermop_> how willing are you to rename fmsp to forrestry supplies when this economy is active 21:07:30 <andythenorth> nah 21:07:32 <andythenorth> mess 21:07:38 <andythenorth> tried it 21:07:38 <supermop_> chainsaw factory 21:07:51 <andythenorth> alcohol -> hunting camp? o_O 21:08:15 <supermop_> beer->ice fishing hut 21:08:38 <supermop_> for minnesota = scandinavia 21:08:51 <andythenorth> :D 21:08:53 <supermop_> minnesota also exports a lot of iore, or did 21:08:55 <andythenorth> ice fishery 21:08:55 <peter1138> been looking at this rainfall river generator 21:09:00 <peter1138> so many damned options :S 21:09:04 <supermop_> peter1138: good? 21:09:07 <andythenorth> can’t it just flow down? 21:09:24 <supermop_> parameter: water flows up 21:09:31 <andythenorth> http://thecodelesscode.com/case/233 21:09:37 <supermop_> parameter: lava 21:09:44 <peter1138> supermop_, well the sample pic looks nice 21:10:26 <peter1138> 15 configurable settings 21:10:32 <peter1138> seems excessive 21:11:00 <supermop_> minnesota = sweden for cases of last names, chainsaw use, iron ore, grain farming, maybe some logging? 21:11:18 <andythenorth> does it get results peter1138 ? 21:11:32 <supermop_> peter1138: ive never used it, but from reading the thread i wished it would do more erosion 21:12:11 <supermop_> biggest peeve in rolling new maps is hydrologically unsound valleys 21:12:38 <supermop_> and most time i spend in any editor, even when using heightmaps, is fixing them 21:14:16 <andythenorth> maybe hunting camp should accept fmsp 21:16:16 <supermop_> hunt elk with explosives? 21:16:25 <andythenorth> supermop_: without iced lakes, fishing holes are tricky :P 21:17:31 <supermop_> i feel like you are maybe getting too hung up on primaries at this point 21:17:36 <supermop_> this isn't australia 21:18:35 <andythenorth> I wonder if food sources are lacking 21:18:42 <andythenorth> could put the fricking farm back :P 21:18:56 <supermop_> make it make grain? 21:19:08 <supermop_> or is that boring? 21:19:14 <supermop_> the food farm kind of blew 21:19:19 <andythenorth> I’m at 20 cargos now with Iron Ore 21:19:22 <supermop_> nice 21:19:32 <supermop_> thats probably fine 21:19:47 <supermop_> farms are nice to cover flat areas with fields 21:20:25 <andythenorth> alcohol from farm? o_O 21:20:37 <supermop_> ha 21:21:07 <supermop_> export ore, get parts? parts are used for twist lock connectors by ikea factory? 21:21:23 <andythenorth> :P 21:21:28 <supermop_> i guess thats mnsp 21:21:34 <andythenorth> import allan keys 21:21:37 <andythenorth> #5 21:21:49 <andythenorth> in that flattened s shape 21:22:00 <supermop_> but was thinking like forged bits and castings, which a higher value manufacturing plant uses 21:22:19 <andythenorth> http://aprilfool.s3.amazonaws.com/2012ikea_lg.jpg 21:22:42 <supermop_> im sure the chainsaws have some imported parts that were cast from steel that ultimately came from a swedish mine 21:24:33 <supermop_> take iore to trading post as it only has one input so far? 21:25:23 <andythenorth> I thought it best not to mix the explosives :P 21:25:54 <andythenorth> now that you mention it, I actually like that it’s unbalanced there 21:26:21 <andythenorth> you’re going to be making explosives to grow the wood chain 21:27:25 <peter1138> yeah well 21:30:36 <andythenorth> supermop_: could have done a gold mine 21:30:38 <andythenorth> but eh 21:30:42 <supermop_> yeah 21:30:46 <supermop_> i never got gold 21:30:58 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kittil%C3%A4_mine 21:31:01 <supermop_> i guess as a kid its fun to get lots of gold 21:31:14 <andythenorth> gold -> trading post 21:31:26 <andythenorth> 4,300t / year 21:31:33 <andythenorth> oops 21:31:43 <andythenorth> several 0s wrong 21:31:47 <andythenorth> 4.3t / year 21:32:12 <supermop_> gold ore is maybe more interesting than elemental gold, because you have to do something with it 21:32:37 <supermop_> but one armoured truck per year is going to be odd 21:33:01 <andythenorth> it’s blah 21:33:40 <supermop_> "5.12 grams per ton" 21:34:13 <peter1138> heh 21:34:39 <supermop_> maybe an alaska economy centered around supplying and servicing the exotic dredging/sluicing machinery 21:34:54 <supermop_> with gold claims as blackholes 21:35:14 <andythenorth> :P 21:35:20 <supermop_> take delivery of heavy machinery, but don't give you anything to carry back 21:35:52 <supermop_> because the prospector can carry the year's haul in his suitcase back home 21:36:19 * supermop_ watched few episodes of some gold mining reality show 21:37:11 <supermop_> the manufactured drama on the show was more about buying and getting a new back hoe shipped in 21:37:26 <supermop_> not trucking out trainloads of gold 21:37:29 <Wolf01> Wtf are nvidia drivers 417MB now? 21:43:04 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 21:44:11 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 21:46:21 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:49:10 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 21:57:51 *** RedirectLeft has joined #openttd 22:00:00 <supermop_> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=76297 22:00:04 <supermop_> who'll bite? 22:04:02 <RedirectLeft> aw 22:04:06 <RedirectLeft> someone replied before I did :( 22:04:32 <RedirectLeft> One time i try to be helpful :p 22:04:32 <peter1138> heh 22:04:54 <ST2> that will double the chances of him/her read the solution xD 22:15:57 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 22:18:25 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:20:51 *** Snail has quit IRC 22:30:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:46:26 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:06:07 *** mescalito has joined #openttd 23:44:54 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:46:57 <Wolf01> 'night 23:47:01 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:49:33 *** Tirili has quit IRC