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Why is that? 11:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you destroyed too many trees 11:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> council rating is independent from station rating 11:49:11 <Exec> I've got more trees here than any other cities 11:51:49 <Exec> https://i.imgur.com/08cwtT7.png the range of the city is about the blue rectangle 11:52:16 <V453000> it's not about the absolute current tree amount 11:52:38 <Exec> hmm 11:53:50 <Exec> https://i.imgur.com/8rQ8WrR.png It's still "very bad" and I can't expand that station 11:54:26 <Alberth> yep, continue providing good service, and eventually rating will climb again 11:54:35 <Exec> It's been 5 years. 11:55:28 <Alberth> counsil is very unforgiving about trees 11:55:49 <Alberth> so just let it run, do something else in themean time 11:57:10 <V453000> or just delete all the trees so the rating drops to 0 11:57:13 <V453000> and then build new trees 11:57:18 <V453000> only first plant of trees matters 11:57:41 <Alberth> or just delete all stations, if they don't want you, find a better city :) 11:58:17 <Alberth> you're lucky in having some stations at least to keep your rating up 11:59:15 <Alberth> I once waited for 30+ years to provide service due to some script that required it, except I had no station at all in the area 11:59:42 <Alberth> believe rating improvement is slow then :p 11:59:48 <Alberth> *believe me, 12:04:22 *** Flygon has quit IRC 12:12:10 *** Pressure_Line has quit IRC 12:27:06 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 12:47:46 <V453000> omfg it's tt-f christmas season 13:01:55 *** crem has joined #openttd 13:05:48 <Eddi|zuHause> you can disable that, you know? 13:09:01 <V453000> I'll just not read the forums for a month it's fine :P 13:11:20 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:11:38 <Samu> [13:11] == Samu [~oftc-webi@pa4-84-91-142-34.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 13:13:07 <Samu> i just discovered there is a thing called terraform limit 13:13:16 <Samu> yesterday 13:13:31 <Samu> I was completelly ignoring it :( 13:14:51 <Samu> in this case, there is a bug with tunnels 13:15:10 <Samu> it also ignores terraform limit, unless that was fixed meanwhile, must check 13:17:15 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 13:18:52 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 13:19:43 *** debdog has joined #openttd 13:19:57 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 13:24:33 <Samu> ah, i was wrong 13:25:09 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:26:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 13:28:45 <Samu> it was actually working, hmm I must have missed something :( 13:44:34 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:46:19 *** debdog has joined #openttd 13:55:30 *** GNUPONUT[m] has joined #openttd 13:57:01 *** GNUPONUT[m] has left #openttd 14:01:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:04:12 *** dP has joined #openttd 14:04:15 *** dP is now known as _dp_ 14:05:59 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 14:08:42 <andythenorth> o/ 14:09:15 <Alberth> o/ 14:16:28 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 14:35:05 <Wolf01> o/ 14:44:11 <andythenorth> FIRS steeltown is quite hard to get a viable map 14:44:21 <andythenorth> the chains are very closely connected 14:44:34 <andythenorth> wondering if I can force industry placement more 15:06:16 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:21:22 <Samu> i found a typo in terraform_cmd.cpp in one of the comments 15:22:13 <Samu> https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/25d136f16bd8/src/terraform_cmd.cpp#l147 15:22:47 <Samu> move to tile in SE, i think it's SW 15:23:09 <Samu> undo last move, and move to tile in NE 15:23:27 <Samu> undo last move, and move to tile in SE 15:23:40 <Samu> undo last move, and move to tile in NW 15:24:00 <Samu> is it not? 15:29:33 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:32:45 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:37:01 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:51:06 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 15:56:27 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:56:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 16:03:26 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 16:18:26 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 16:19:49 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 16:21:36 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 16:23:16 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:31:10 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:32:52 <Samu> Alberth: i tried to adapt CmdLevelLand to accept customized tile height, but i'm getting issues with total costs :( 16:33:13 <Samu> res is different than res2 and asserts there :( 16:33:39 <Alberth> weird 16:35:02 <Samu> ret = DoCommand(TileAddByDiagDir(tile2 + diff, AxisToDiagDir(OtherAxis(axis))), tile, SetBit(p2, 3) | SB(p2, 4, 8, best_h), flags | DC_NO_WATER, CMD_LEVEL_LAND); 16:35:43 <Samu> wondering if i'm chosing the wrong tiles 16:36:48 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 16:40:55 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 16:44:08 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:45:19 <Samu> /* remember level height */ uint oldh = HasBit(p2, 3) ? GB(p2, 4, 8) : TileHeight(p1); 16:59:19 <Samu> _cleared_object_areas is empty :( i fail 17:33:34 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 17:47:48 <Alberth> setbit has side effects, namely it changes the parameter p2 17:49:18 <Alberth> SB might also introduce changes 17:49:58 <Wolf01> OMFG, just read FFF, cliffs are amazing :O 17:55:50 <Wolf01> andythenorth: https://imgur.com/a/asRZl 17:56:08 <andythenorth> arm 17:57:27 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:01:29 *** CompuDesktop has quit IRC 18:03:38 <Exec> How do I have a truck force drop off things at a station so a train pick them up? Also the same with trains in reverse 18:05:53 *** Compu has joined #openttd 18:14:21 <andythenorth> use transfer orders 18:14:28 <andythenorth> or turn on cargo distribution in settings 18:16:53 <Exec> ah, under the "Unload all" menu 18:16:55 <Exec> thanks 18:20:10 <Wolf01> andythenorth: https://imgur.com/XAGYFCF do you have any idea to solve the "not 90° is really bothering me"? 18:22:44 <andythenorth> what is it? 18:24:36 <Wolf01> The joystick control 18:25:10 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 18:25:27 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 18:25:38 <Wolf01> The problem is the gears mesh at angles I don't like, so the joystick center is a bit on the side 18:29:25 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 18:29:59 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 18:32:15 <Gustavo6046> sftp://0.tcp.ngrok.io:19177 Username: public 18:32:17 <Gustavo6046> my SFTP server 18:32:20 <Gustavo6046> connect using FileZilla 18:55:57 <Samu> hmm 18:57:31 <Samu> CmdLevelLand and CmdTerraformLand 18:57:39 <Samu> don't work together 18:58:13 <Samu> if I got 2 corners to lower near each other 18:58:58 <Samu> CmdLevelLand tells CmdTerraformLand to lower the first corner 18:58:58 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 18:59:34 <Samu> CmdTerraform doesn't know of the other corner and is working with the wrong height 19:00:02 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 19:00:03 <Samu> i assume it's going to double clear the same time 19:00:09 <Samu> tile 19:00:55 <Samu> the costs are added twice on the first run, and on the exec run, it's only added once, let's see 19:01:55 <Exec> o 19:01:57 <Exec> nvm 19:04:19 <Samu> SLOPE_NWS ... 19:04:38 <Samu> i'm surprised levelland works 19:05:04 <Samu> the N corner was supposed to have been lowered 19:07:17 <Samu> indirectly_cleared = false... also wrong, now I see why I'm getting different costs between res and res2 19:13:56 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 19:15:01 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 19:16:05 <andythenorth> Tanks or FIRS? 19:16:10 <andythenorth> V453000: TANKS grf? 19:21:47 <Samu> who's the terraform expert? 19:22:08 <andythenorth> no-one 19:22:20 <SpComb> I'll assume you're talking about terraform.io 19:23:04 <Samu> /* When we're at the terraform limit we better bail (unneeded) testing as well. * This will probably cause the terraforming cost to be underestimated, but only * when it's near the terraforming limit. Even then, the estimation is * completely off due to it basically counting terraforming double, so it being * cut off earlier might even give a better estimate in some cases. */ 19:23:46 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:24:53 <Samu> translate plz 19:25:06 <Samu> what is this comment supposed to warn 19:25:36 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 19:25:52 <Samu> the cost is actually overestimated 19:26:12 <Samu> maybe this is not the warning I was looking for :( 19:30:24 <Rubidium> basically leveling/terraforming a range does the terraform command for single corners, so it iterates several corners. The testing phase does not account for the changes made to the map 19:31:14 <Rubidium> so it basically sums the costs of each single corner, whereas changes to one corner can already affect other corners 19:31:34 <Rubidium> this includes things like tile clearing 19:34:24 <Samu> CMD_NO_TEST, I worry if I should use this flag 19:34:26 <Samu> wonder* 19:37:00 <V453000> andythenorth: doesn't bananas ban military stuff? :D 19:37:03 <V453000> oh yeah now I understand 19:37:11 <V453000> andy is in the long term defficite of military stuff 19:37:14 <V453000> and now it cost us andy 19:37:17 <V453000> gg 19:39:18 <Samu> can't use it :( 19:42:31 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:43:31 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 19:43:34 <Samu> DEF_CMD(CmdLevelLand, CMD_ALL_TILES | CMD_NO_TEST | CMD_AUTO, CMDT_LANDSCAPE_CONSTRUCTION), // CMD_LEVEL_LAND; test run might clear tiles multiple times, in execution that only happens once 19:43:43 <Samu> exactly what I found 19:44:41 <Rubidium> V453000: why do you think there is a ban? 19:47:28 <V453000> wasn't there something like that in the TOS? 19:47:35 <V453000> sexy and military things nono? 19:53:49 <Eddi|zuHause> The Original Series had lots of sexy and military things :p 19:55:28 <Samu> it's a Command flag, not a DoCommand flag... can't use 19:55:45 <V453000> hm I don't even know where to find the TOS so :D 19:56:54 <Rubidium> https://hg.openttd.org/extra/website.hg/file/tip/bananas/templates/bananas/tosInner.html 19:57:26 <andythenorth> V453000: peace tanks 19:57:28 <andythenorth> not war tanks 19:57:46 <V453000> k :P 19:57:57 <andythenorth> tanks are peaceful 19:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjHNTXa0hE 19:58:12 <andythenorth> no-one argues with a tank 19:58:39 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: my german is too poor :) 19:58:41 <Rubidium> I seem to remember images of a Chinese guy that did 19:59:05 <V453000> oh so I can do penis trains now? 19:59:20 <V453000> the whole slug thing is just a substitute 19:59:42 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: well, we start easy: "Friedenspanzer" means "peace tank(s)" :p 19:59:49 <andythenorth> ha 20:04:34 <Wolf01> <V453000> sexy and military things nono? <- that's lego :P 20:06:21 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 20:08:02 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 20:15:24 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:22:04 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 20:47:33 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:48:56 <peter1138> Do we have a VR patch yet? :p 20:55:10 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 20:55:35 <andythenorth> not a finished one 20:56:24 <Eddi|zuHause> how would openttd-vr work without a 3D map? 20:59:16 <Rubidium> with a Finish trains NewGRF? 21:02:39 <andythenorth> what about Finish Industries? 21:03:40 <Eddi|zuHause> that will never happen, because you change your mind faster than you can finish anything :p 21:07:25 <andythenorth> how else do things get finished? :P 21:07:48 <andythenorth> it's done when it's done, not when plan #1 is complete 21:10:32 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 21:22:32 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:24:36 *** Alberth has left #openttd 21:26:56 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:41:32 * andythenorth pokes FIRS 21:43:19 <Wolf01> 'night 21:43:23 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:51:39 *** synchris has quit IRC 21:55:34 <andythenorth> testing industry probabilities 21:55:40 <andythenorth> is hard with 'funding only' set :P 21:55:42 <andythenorth> oops 21:57:01 *** glx has joined #openttd 21:57:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 22:01:46 *** Gustavo6046_ has joined #openttd 22:08:30 *** Gustavo6046_ has quit IRC 22:09:01 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 22:10:34 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 22:13:51 <andythenorth> bed 22:13:52 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:23:41 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 22:26:55 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:31:30 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 22:58:05 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:03:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:03:51 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 23:10:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:11:44 *** none has joined #openttd 23:14:13 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 23:15:02 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 23:17:48 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 23:21:29 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:23:38 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 23:29:05 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:31:26 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd