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00:05:54 *** Maarten has quit IRC 00:06:05 *** Maarten has joined #openttd 00:24:42 <supermop> maybe im getting warmer: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=48891&p=1141951&hilit=consist+cargo#p1141951 00:33:26 *** Maarten has quit IRC 00:50:11 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:04:25 *** GT has quit IRC 01:06:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 01:16:28 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 01:18:45 *** Maarten has joined #openttd 02:11:44 <Pikka> if it's one vehicle carrying one cargo, I'd just put all the cargo in the head unit like you said, and read that for the cargo sprites 02:12:09 <Pikka> @supermop 02:13:02 <Pikka> mind you I think articulated road vehicles are a BAD FEATURE ;) 02:23:43 <Pikka> except trams 02:38:00 <supermop> Pikka: still need to figure out how i specify the other_veh offset 02:38:19 <supermop> but yes, this whole grf is an exploration of bad features 02:38:58 <Pikka> if you put the cargo in the head, can't you just read the parent object? 02:39:56 <supermop> for the messed up curve info 02:40:08 <Pikka> what fun :D 02:43:00 <supermop> Its ANDY's fault -he put vehicles in steel town . so l feel compelled to make a truck to deliver them 02:45:13 <Eddi|zuHause> "Path of Exile: Royale"... i think it started... 02:48:26 <supermop> so what is in progress in Pikka land? 02:49:14 <Pikka> brakevans at the moment... we all love brakevans 02:49:59 <supermop> yes, the original bad feature 02:52:07 <Pikka> https://i.imgur.com/2fxHdlx.jpg 02:53:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i hear people get religious about whether brake vans go on the beginning or end of the train 02:54:38 <Pikka> why not both (tm)? 02:56:04 <supermop> one after each wagon 03:16:03 <Flygon> Hold up. 03:16:05 <Flygon> I got this. 03:16:20 * Flygon places brake van... in the middle of the train 03:51:26 *** supermop has quit IRC 03:58:35 *** supermop has joined #openttd 04:19:03 *** supermop has quit IRC 04:19:22 *** supermop has joined #openttd 04:38:08 <Pikka> oh dear... 04:38:19 <Pikka> I drew a flat wagon... now I suppose I need to draw cargos 04:38:47 <Pikka> where's the IH cargo repository? :D 04:47:58 *** Cubey has quit IRC 04:48:14 <Eddi|zuHause> "India's railway company got 28 million applications for 90000 open jobs" 04:49:51 *** supermop has quit IRC 04:52:02 <Eddi|zuHause> "After Brexit, residents of the UK will no longer be eligible to hold .eu domain names" 04:58:42 *** SUPERNETS has joined #openttd 04:59:23 *** SUPERNETS has quit IRC 05:05:56 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:23:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:24:49 *** FRIGN411 has joined #openttd 06:25:00 <FRIGN411> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY iяс.sцреяиетs.ояg сни sцреявоwl jihinnb: jonty-comp XeryusTC orudge ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ 06:25:00 <FRIGN411> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY iяс.sцреяиетs.ояg сни sцреявоwl bhiaxthu: Antheus Darkvater Agiri[m] ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ 06:25:00 <FRIGN411> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ HAPPY APRIL FLOODS DAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY 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bypassed my autoignore 06:54:22 <cHawk> I igonire everyone who mentiones 4 or more nicks in one line 06:59:43 <sla_ro|master> you should set it at 2 nicks now ;p 07:02:01 *** TonyP has joined #openttd 07:05:48 *** bwn has quit IRC 07:18:34 <andythenorth> Pikka: automated chassis drawing innit :P 07:19:41 <Pikka> o/ 07:19:54 <Pikka> what about automated cargo drawing though 07:20:21 <andythenorth> I automated cargo positioning :P 07:20:35 <andythenorth> it doesn't know how to make actual pixels 07:21:53 <andythenorth> hmm 07:22:00 <andythenorth> 2x means more detailed cargos eh :) 07:22:48 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 07:22:48 <Pikka> ummm maybe? :) 07:24:44 <andythenorth> 1 *really nice* tarp? :P 07:25:15 <Pikka> "really" "nice" 07:25:35 <andythenorth> box van 07:25:46 <andythenorth> job done 07:26:57 <Pikka> yes but 07:29:43 <andythenorth> isn't it 07:30:00 * andythenorth goes back to painting 07:30:02 <Pikka> 8 variants of goods on flatcar... tarp tarp tarp tarp, cabledrum flatthing container container. Yes? 07:30:25 <andythenorth> you want me to find pictures of open-topped bulk containers? :P 07:31:12 <Pikka> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/5-unit/unitload1.htm doesn't it? 07:31:25 <andythenorth> yes 07:31:28 <andythenorth> also bricks 07:31:57 <andythenorth> my test game says I have to finish this http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/covered_hopper_carrier_D.png 07:32:08 <andythenorth> one angle drawn is not enough :P 07:32:56 <Pikka> sadly not 07:33:26 <andythenorth> can you tell it's originally the UKRS 2 grain hopper? :P 07:33:38 <Pikka> not even slightly 07:33:59 <andythenorth> sprite has travelled far 07:41:16 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 08:01:48 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:17:06 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:17:22 <Wolf01> Moin 08:18:12 <Wolf01> So I have a dramatic idea for an april fool, but I need help from a moderator and all the parts involved :P 08:29:09 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:40:54 <LANJesus> change all the threads on the forum to have the same title 08:41:40 <Wolf01> That might be difficult to recover, but sure it's funny :P 08:42:58 <LordAro> probably the sort of thing that you could do with some source code editing 08:43:05 <LordAro> no need for actual data loss 08:43:09 <Wolf01> Ha! Team rocket took control of the italian pokémon community 08:43:15 <LordAro> i'd imagine you'd need orudge for that though 08:43:42 <Wolf01> https://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Home XD 08:51:07 <Wolf01> http://store.steampowered.com/app/593600/PixARK/ this is nice, well done 09:08:02 <Alkel_U3> So, what feature is getting chopped off of OpenTTD this year? Is it trains finally? Never could get my head around those, anyway... 09:08:50 <Wolf01> I wish we should have thought about this before: TL;DR lock topic, ban me and andy for today, say we are closing the NRT project because we received a C&D from OTTD devs 09:10:43 <Wolf01> The best part would be without andy knowing XDXDXD 09:16:29 <LordAro> haha 09:27:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:41:11 *** test12345 has joined #openttd 10:03:14 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 10:27:07 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:52:42 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 11:07:35 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 11:13:30 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r28001 /branches/1.8 (5 files in 3 dirs) (2018-04-01 13:13:24 +0200 ) 11:13:30 <DorpsGek> [1.8] -Update: Documentation 11:13:42 <LordAro> :o 11:14:37 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r28002 /tags/1.8.0 (11 files in 3 dirs) (2018-04-01 13:14:34 +0200 ) 11:14:38 <DorpsGek> -Release: 1.8.0 11:14:45 <LordAro> :oo 11:14:55 <frosch123> are those eggs? 11:15:09 <Eddi|zuHause> that must be an april fools day prank, there can't possibly be an actual release 11:15:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, look at the revision numbers 11:15:35 <Eddi|zuHause> no way they can be real 11:26:39 <Wolf01> So, what's the prank? :D 11:26:59 <Wolf01> Also, topic 11:27:23 <frosch123> we are moving to github :p 11:28:09 <Wolf01> Make fake commits on svn after moving, just to troll people 11:29:05 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 11:29:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 11:29:09 <Wolf01> o/ 11:29:12 <Alberth> o/ 11:38:49 <Rubidium> the prank is that I'm still listed as active! 11:42:38 <TrueBrain> the prank is that this started as a joke 10 years ago ... :P 11:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> OpenTTD has been a joke for all of the past 10 years? 11:45:36 <Alberth> of course, you don't think that you would seriously consider to work on some vague project for the next 10 years, right? 11:46:31 <Eddi|zuHause> so not only the cake was a lie then :/ 11:47:18 <Alberth> most people writing history never had the intention to do that initially 11:47:31 <TrueBrain> I was refering to the release schedule, but okay :) 11:47:45 <Alberth> :D 11:49:50 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 11:50:19 *** Eddi|zuHause has left #openttd 12:01:06 <frosch123> @topic set 1 1.8.0 12:01:06 *** DorpsGek changes topic to "1.8.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | #openttd.dev if this channel is really spammy" 12:09:01 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 12:28:16 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 12:32:31 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:36:44 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 12:37:07 <Eddi|zuHause> haha. fooled you!! 12:49:20 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 12:50:22 <SpComb> hmm.. 12:51:08 *** Wolf01 is now known as Samu 12:51:19 <Samu> Haha! Fooled you all this time 12:51:42 <Samu> Now, who is the prank master? 12:51:52 *** Samu is now known as Wolf01 12:52:28 <LordAro> oh dear 12:52:38 <LordAro> @seen Samu 12:52:38 <DorpsGek> LordAro: Samu was last seen in #openttd 56 seconds ago: <Samu> Now, who is the prank master? 12:52:46 <LordAro> heh 12:53:43 <TrueBrain> and the jokes are getting worse and worse by the minute ... :P 12:54:46 <SpComb> https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/2444 12:56:56 <Wolf01> Lol 12:57:33 <TrueBrain> in Bamboo you can make a "Final task", tasks that are executed no matter if the build succeeded or not 12:57:40 <TrueBrain> sounds like a perfect place to notify of build failed/success 12:57:46 <TrueBrain> but ... you cannot ask that information there 12:58:20 <TrueBrain> everytime they have stuff that isALMOST there .. but those last few steps ... they failed to take 12:59:47 <frosch123> TrueBrain: looks like http://finger.openttd.org/versions.txt did not get updated 12:59:55 <LordAro> sounds like the arguments against bamboo are getting stronger :p 13:00:19 <TrueBrain> wow .. that is a really long time ago that finger failed .. 13:00:21 <TrueBrain> oh-oh :D 13:00:24 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 13:00:53 <frosch123> i am sure you can blame it on bamboo somehow 13:01:00 <frosch123> or some mysql query :p 13:01:22 <Rubidium> ldap? 13:01:32 <LordAro> dns, clearly 13:02:06 <TrueBrain> a lot of permission denieds 13:02:09 <TrueBrain> yet it continued 13:02:25 <TrueBrain> yeah .. no files were uploaded too 13:02:30 <TrueBrain> okay .. what went wrong .. 13:06:24 <TrueBrain> and Bamboo cleaned up the release after this .. lol 13:06:26 <TrueBrain> okay 13:06:31 <TrueBrain> publish script will now fail when this happens again 13:06:36 <TrueBrain> and we have to rebuild it all :) 13:07:10 <TrueBrain> frosch123: takes another hour or so for the release to be ready 13:07:27 <frosch123> some hare did hide all the eggs? 13:07:32 <TrueBrain> problems was that openssh got upgraded, and the current key was no longer accepted 13:08:00 <TrueBrain> on better news: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD-RC/pull/6698 13:08:15 <TrueBrain> I just need to make a Docker that runs 'make regression' now :) 13:10:23 <LordAro> doesn't appear to be running make... 13:12:18 <TrueBrain> didnt I just said that? 13:13:25 <LordAro> ah 13:13:38 <LordAro> yes, you should do that 13:19:52 <TrueBrain> but so now GitHub tells AWS SNS tells AWS Lambda tells Bamboo tells GitHub 13:19:57 <TrueBrain> its complicated :P 13:20:04 <LordAro> oh dear 13:20:22 <TrueBrain> but it is pretty nice 13:20:35 <TrueBrain> saved a lot of setting up our own infrastructure to handle GitHub API 13:21:00 <TrueBrain> and Dockers are being created by the Docker Hub Automated Build 13:21:03 <TrueBrain> which is also very nice 13:21:19 <TrueBrain> and the Dockerfiles are on GitHub too 13:21:23 <LordAro> how much the AWS cost? 13:21:24 <TrueBrain> lovely transparent :) 13:21:26 <TrueBrain> zero 13:21:30 <LordAro> ah, nice 13:21:37 <TrueBrain> SNS and Lambda is free up till 1 miljoen PRs per month 13:21:51 <TrueBrain> well, PR changes 13:21:58 <TrueBrain> so any comments, edit, push, etc 13:22:08 <TrueBrain> @calc 1000000 / 30 / 24 / 60 13:22:08 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 23.1481481481 13:22:15 <TrueBrain> 23 changes per minute 13:22:17 <TrueBrain> lolz 13:22:19 <TrueBrain> I think we are fine :P 13:22:19 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 13:22:29 <LordAro> can you limit it to just pushes? 13:22:40 <LordAro> no need to send anything else to it, right? 13:22:42 <TrueBrain> no; pushes on GitHub is when you accept a PR 13:22:46 <TrueBrain> I limited it to pull_request 13:22:52 <TrueBrain> which is a very big domain 13:23:01 <TrueBrain> talk to GitHub API guys :P 13:23:11 <LordAro> i see 13:23:19 <TrueBrain> but really ... 23 changes per minute .. 13:23:22 <TrueBrain> and you worry why? 13:23:25 <LordAro> yeah... 13:23:42 <TrueBrain> if OpenTTD becomes that popular, we can pay AWS :P 13:23:55 <LordAro> pretty sure even ansible or golang don't get those levels of PR changes 13:25:25 <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/px5fc0gbg <- too harsh? 13:25:53 <TrueBrain> its funny, but harsh :P 13:26:06 <LordAro> :D 13:26:17 <LordAro> "we will be making" 13:29:04 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:50:35 <TrueBrain> frosch123: it is published 13:50:52 <frosch123> \o/ 14:06:08 <TrueBrain> okay, we can now run multiple tests on a PR 14:06:18 <TrueBrain> that could include coding-style checks, etc 14:14:29 <TrueBrain> yippie; this works :D 14:14:32 <TrueBrain> so, Dockers ... 14:14:48 <TrueBrain> that is something for tomorrow :) 14:15:30 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:46:51 <supermop> yo 14:51:30 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:52:30 <andythenorth> Pikka: what timespan for 10 engines? 14:52:32 <andythenorth> o_O 14:52:57 <Pikka> 20th century 14:53:18 <andythenorth> 4-4-0, black 5 or castle, 37, 68 14:53:19 <andythenorth> done 14:53:36 <andythenorth> 1900, 1930, 1960, 1990 14:53:42 <Pikka> see that's what I thought 14:53:47 <andythenorth> easy 14:53:49 <Pikka> but I was wrong :P 14:54:14 *** test12345 has quit IRC 14:54:38 <andythenorth> I got 45 1860-2020 http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html 14:54:42 <andythenorth> but 19 of those can be ignored 14:54:51 <Pikka> UKRS2 had 60-odd 14:55:10 <andythenorth> so I have 26 non-weird types 14:55:22 <andythenorth> and you can lose 1/3 of those, because I cover more time 14:55:31 <andythenorth> so I'm at 17 14:55:45 <andythenorth> and you won't be as obsessive and weird as me 14:56:02 <Pikka> you don't have a 4-4-0 :P 14:56:16 <andythenorth> I have some length rules 14:56:28 <andythenorth> so it had to become a 4-2-2 14:56:32 <andythenorth> smaller wheel :P 14:57:15 <andythenorth> if you only have one engine per generation you don't have to balance anything 14:57:22 <andythenorth> and generations are 25 years 14:57:24 <andythenorth> so you need 4 14:57:39 <andythenorth> :P 14:57:57 <Pikka> yes, but then one engine has to do everything 14:58:06 <Pikka> so "everything" becomes the same 14:58:10 <andythenorth> it *is* kind of boring to play with 14:58:19 <Pikka> which admittedly is how most people play TTD 14:58:26 <andythenorth> original horse idea was 20 engines 14:58:30 <andythenorth> but I couldn't enjoy it 14:59:44 <Pikka> the first loco in 10CC turned out to be the hardest to decide on, because it sets the tone for the decade-and-a-half that it's the *only* locomotive, and it requires the second locomotive to be a contrast but not an obvious 1:1 replacement, otherwise *that* becomes the only locomotive 14:59:44 <andythenorth> you want all RAIL / ELRL? 15:00:11 <andythenorth> you could do a 'full' standard gauge roster of 5, and a 'full' narrow gauge roster of 5 15:00:50 <andythenorth> or 4 freight, 4 branch, 4 express 15:01:29 <andythenorth> what is the first loco currently? o_O 15:02:18 <Pikka> https://www.lner.info/locos/J/j27.php 15:03:28 <andythenorth> yair 15:04:25 <Pikka> feels like the right sort of loco for getting started... not a big express, but not a tiny tank engine either 15:06:56 *** yorick_ has quit IRC 15:07:09 <andythenorth> what would be next? 15:11:07 <Pikka> Gresley K2, then the Jubilee 15:12:18 <Pikka> so they increase in speed and power, but the older ones stay useful on smaller trains, especially with the low wagon speeds 15:13:28 *** synchris has joined #openttd 15:16:25 <supermop> Pikka: https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1204522#p1204522 15:17:08 <supermop> you end up pretty close to original vehicles.. just no tim or asia star 15:17:43 <andythenorth> Pikka: so what tech tree? 15:17:46 <andythenorth> slow and fast? 15:17:48 <Pikka> MUs are nice though :P 15:17:56 <andythenorth> what are the lines? 15:18:04 * andythenorth has played too much Tanks 15:18:13 <andythenorth> :P 15:18:21 <supermop> Pikka: UK = DMUs 15:18:29 <supermop> its tough to do without 15:18:50 <Pikka> then don't do without... but something has to go. It's tough, eh? 15:19:31 <andythenorth> depends if 'branch' is a thing 15:19:41 <supermop> the closest thing to bloat original vehicles had was too many 60s diesels 15:19:43 <supermop> but 15:19:51 <Flygon> supermop: I still declare Victoria DMU king. :3 15:19:55 <Flygon> We... just... 15:20:02 <Flygon> Won't stop manufacturing VLocity DMUs. 15:20:02 <Pikka> 'branch' is not a thing in TTD, andy :P 15:20:08 <supermop> compared with no diesels at all at end of game 15:20:19 <andythenorth> original TTD has the tank engines and DMUs 15:20:30 <andythenorth> but I always lost money with them in original TTD :P 15:20:38 <andythenorth> they're only good for marginal routes 15:20:42 <andythenorth> and marginal routes are no good 15:20:45 <supermop> if you are add 40 years to the front of the original run, you are making it even harder to fit in MUs 15:20:57 <andythenorth> if there's enough pax to make money, there's enough for a big train 15:21:03 <Flygon> It's like that Pizza comic where that guy is send to hell and told that he can have a Pizza but it will burn away his mouth then he eats the Pizza and melts his mouth away but keeps eating it anyway and the devil tells the guy to stop eating the Pizza because he's genuinely concerned with his Pizza consumption. 15:21:07 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:21:23 <andythenorth> Pikka: 'always big trains' :P 15:21:27 <andythenorth> then it's easier 15:21:54 <supermop> axing the 92/avocet to fit in an emu/dmu makes the electrics have no progression as well 15:21:54 <andythenorth> no need for balancing shenanigans 15:21:56 <Pikka> I like small trains 15:22:07 <andythenorth> ok so 'always small trains' 15:22:14 <Pikka> but with limited vehicles, you can't get too niche either way 15:22:37 <andythenorth> I found it really hard to balance Horse without 4 types per generation 15:22:50 <Pikka> but nor can you go too middle-of-the-road, because then you have multiple locos which are practically the same 15:22:56 <andythenorth> and I had to cap speed on freight vehicles, which is a total PITA 15:22:57 <supermop> only one freight diesel and freight electric after 1960, rest is mus 15:24:27 <supermop> so what do you think of 20/47/86/43/92/66 pikka? 15:24:43 <supermop> that only leaves room for 4 steams, and no MUs 15:24:53 <Pikka> you got 5/6, well done :P 15:25:30 <andythenorth> 92 is lame 15:25:33 <andythenorth> 66 is lame 15:25:36 <supermop> i feel the lack of a first and last decade electric is a big problem in original set 15:25:43 <andythenorth> electrics bloat the set 15:26:00 <supermop> andythenorth: i had it as 89 and 58 for maximum british styling 15:26:09 <Pikka> technically mine's 59 rather than a 66 :P 15:26:11 <supermop> but that seemed like an affectation 15:26:20 <andythenorth> Pikka: considered just inventing stuff? o_O 15:26:24 <andythenorth> I found it helped :P 15:26:38 <Pikka> people seem to prefer "realism" though ;) 15:26:51 <supermop> andythenorth: someone is already doing a fictionalized train set 15:26:57 <andythenorth> $someone 15:27:05 <andythenorth> everything is super-real in Horse 15:27:10 <andythenorth> you just have to squint 15:27:25 <Pikka> anyway, the 92 is justified. You have the AL6 for about 30 years, then it splits into the 92 for even heavier freight, and the 321 for passengers. 15:27:49 <andythenorth> electro-diesels solve a lot of problems 15:28:01 <andythenorth> small engines off the wires, big engines on the wires 15:28:05 <andythenorth> also super-realisms 15:28:13 <Pikka> yes but 15:28:20 <supermop> what about pre-50s electrics? a bit out of place in britain, but i think it makes an interesting trade off 15:28:32 <andythenorth> it bloats 15:28:33 <supermop> not much to choose from 15:28:39 <Pikka> I had to remind myself that electrification is basically cosmetic in TTD... it's not exactly hard to drag the convert tool over the whole map :P 15:28:48 <andythenorth> Pikka: just UK? 15:28:48 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:29:09 <Pikka> one at a time I think? 15:29:14 <supermop> Pikka: make the wires much more expensive, and and some BAD_FEATURES to the running costs 15:29:19 *** debdog has quit IRC 15:29:34 <supermop> which is how i make sense of trolleybi 15:29:48 * andythenorth does 'well I dunno' face 15:30:25 <supermop> though the raison d'etre for trolleybi was more 'someone made ELRD, i guess someone should make ELRD vehicles 15:30:37 <andythenorth> I think Horse is luxurious at 26 RAIL / ELRL for 150 years 15:30:43 <andythenorth> and it could be done in 12 15:30:52 <andythenorth> for 100 years 15:30:57 <Pikka> I just wanted to draw less tbh :P 15:31:20 <andythenorth> some of my engines are 'refurbed' 15:31:27 <andythenorth> just paint the window surrounds black 15:31:32 <andythenorth> and upgrade by 600HP 15:32:26 <andythenorth> also try GWR or LMS prototypes :P 15:32:34 <andythenorth> they had standardised boilers, cabs etc 15:33:38 <andythenorth> DMU - pax and mail refits? 15:34:14 <Pikka> yep 15:34:31 <andythenorth> what gap for generations? 15:34:38 <andythenorth> 25 years? 15:35:01 <Pikka> 101 in 1955 15:35:09 <Pikka> 321 in 1988 15:35:15 <Pikka> and that's it :P 15:35:29 <andythenorth> and generations for rest of set? o_O 15:35:43 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 15:36:42 <supermop> how fast are 321s? 15:36:46 <supermop> 100 mph? 15:36:49 <Pikka> yes 15:36:59 <supermop> good enough for 2050 tbh 15:37:18 <supermop> do they have door on front? 15:37:22 <andythenorth> no 15:37:26 <andythenorth> but eh, realisms 15:37:27 <supermop> :( 15:37:52 <supermop> i like the visual change of non door / door in original dmus 15:38:14 <andythenorth> do a 4-REP thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_432 15:38:46 <andythenorth> I 'licensed' all UK electrics to be OHLE, 3rd rail never happened :P 15:38:52 <supermop> too strong as i recall 15:38:59 <andythenorth> electrify everything after 1970 15:39:09 <andythenorth> one big electric loco, one big MU 15:39:14 <supermop> 4 rep was the one that pushed an unpowered rake right? 15:39:34 <andythenorth> y 15:40:13 <andythenorth> Pikka: express tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LB%26SCR_L_class 15:40:44 <andythenorth> 1900: 0-6-0 15:40:58 <andythenorth> 1930: 2-8-0 freight, 4-6-4 express tank 15:41:07 <andythenorth> 1960: class 37, class 74 15:41:39 <andythenorth> 1990: class 92 15:41:53 <andythenorth> two MUs 15:41:56 <andythenorth> you're done in 8 there 15:42:28 <Pikka> splendid 15:47:08 <andythenorth> I'd add a hoover 15:47:12 <andythenorth> for randoms 15:47:53 <andythenorth> and maybe a pendolino or something 15:47:55 <andythenorth> or maglev 15:52:57 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:54:22 <supermop> code 10 more locomotives, of which 2 are randomly enabled at each game start 15:55:41 <supermop> andythenorth: do you recall how i need to wrap my other_veh_curve_info offset? 15:57:24 <andythenorth> no ask Eddi|zuHause ;) 15:57:58 <andythenorth> Pikka: alternately, choose engines by colour :P 15:58:08 <andythenorth> do a red engine, a black engine, a green engine etc :P 15:58:15 <andythenorth> and make them 100 years model life 15:58:31 <andythenorth> 'Toby', 'Edward', 'Henry' :P 15:58:58 <Eddi|zuHause> red engine is always the fastest? 16:00:45 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:10:57 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: depends on the episide 16:11:00 <andythenorth> episode * 16:11:08 <andythenorth> usually the Blue engine is fastest 16:11:14 <andythenorth> unless he has a fault 16:11:33 <LordAro> :D 16:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i don't think i ever watched an episode, anyway 16:14:41 *** Maarten has quit IRC 16:14:53 *** Maarten has joined #openttd 16:16:42 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 16:16:53 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:17:04 <Thedarkb-X40> Is there any way to make a train transfer some of its cargo but not all of it? 16:17:14 <Thedarkb-X40> I have a train carrying coal, iron ore and clay 16:17:24 <Thedarkb-X40> and I want to drop off the clay at a different station. 16:20:02 *** alluke has joined #openttd 16:23:18 <andythenorth> only if you get lucky with cargo-dist 16:23:20 <andythenorth> otherwise no 16:23:32 <andythenorth> oh if they're different cargos it will work 16:26:20 <Pikka> must be nearly bedtime 16:26:36 <alluke> damn i love uk rave scene 16:26:39 <Pikka> todo tomorrow: teach AI to refit trucks... 16:26:43 *** Pikka has quit IRC 16:26:46 <alluke> got to see darren styles yesterday 16:27:10 <alluke> first time in finland 16:30:09 <andythenorth> bye pikka :P 16:30:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:34:38 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:06:03 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:11:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:12:15 *** Alberth has left #openttd 17:12:36 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:22:45 <supermop> ERROR: "moprv65.nml", line 31617: Unrecognized identifier 'other_veh_curve_info' encountered 17:23:06 <supermop> other_veh_curve_info is listen as a variable in the spec tho 17:26:32 *** sla_ro|master2 has joined #openttd 17:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause> version? 17:28:01 <supermop> nrt version of nml 17:28:37 <supermop> i changed to other_veh_curve_info, (offset) 17:28:53 <supermop> but then i get " Switch-block requires 4 parameters, encountered 5" 17:29:00 <supermop> so that must not be it either 17:29:34 <supermop> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#cite_ref-offset_1-0 17:29:39 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 17:30:11 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 17:34:11 <supermop> other_veh_curve_info(offset) gives error "other_veh_curve_info' is not defined as a function" 17:34:59 <supermop> going to take a break 17:38:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea how that is meant to work, i always used the var[] syntax 17:39:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and who knows whether nrt-nml is actually based on the current version of nml? 17:40:16 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 17:41:45 <Thedarkb-X40> I don't know what I did but I made the loan scale with inflation. 17:41:53 <Thedarkb-X40> I like it. 17:42:15 <Eddi|zuHause> it does that automatically 17:42:39 <Thedarkb-X40> Most other servers I've played on kept it capped at 300,000 17:43:12 <Eddi|zuHause> max loan always scaled with inflation, and starting loan also scales with inflation for many years now 17:43:34 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly those servers ran without inflation? 17:44:08 <Thedarkb-X40> That's probably the reason. 17:49:55 <Thedarkb-X40> I keep spending more money than I'm making. 17:53:40 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 18:07:11 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:31:34 *** yorick has joined #openttd 18:38:26 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:39:38 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 18:39:54 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 18:42:31 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:48:51 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 19:04:26 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:11:08 *** alluke has quit IRC 19:39:54 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:43:11 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:44:40 *** synchris has quit IRC 19:45:15 *** sla_ro|master2 has quit IRC 20:03:04 <Thedarkb-X40> Uuuuuuuuuugh 20:03:06 <Thedarkb-X40> Pathfinding issues 20:04:03 <Thedarkb-X40> Waypoints to the rescue 20:04:04 <Thedarkb-X40> I hope 20:06:53 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:33:18 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:36:53 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:00:07 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:03:36 *** Gja has joined #openttd 21:19:06 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 21:24:36 *** Ttech has quit IRC 21:26:07 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:32:41 *** Ttech has joined #openttd 21:33:17 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:46:31 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:50:45 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:02:16 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:03:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 22:08:56 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:16:16 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 22:24:32 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:34:21 *** ryan has joined #openttd 22:35:06 <Wolf01> 'night 22:35:08 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:48:33 <supermop> i just can't find how i write the 'argument' for 'variables that require an argument' 22:52:39 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:53:11 <Supercheese> just in parentheses? 22:53:17 <Supercheese> variable_name(argument) 22:53:31 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:53:52 <supermop> that gives "'other_veh_curve_info' is not defined as a function." 22:54:16 <Supercheese> could be brackets then 22:54:19 <Supercheese> var[arg] 22:55:01 <LordAro> what do you mean by "variable that requires an argument" ? 22:55:04 <LordAro> how is it defined? 22:55:30 <Supercheese> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Variables_that_require_an_argument 22:55:36 <Supercheese> probably those 22:55:40 <supermop> yep 22:55:41 <Supercheese> or similar 22:56:27 <supermop> maybe i am just incredibly ignorant, but it seems to me there is no explanation anywhere of how to use those 22:58:46 <supermop> Supercheese: the [ ] just gives error: Syntax error, unexpected token "[" 22:58:54 <Supercheese> It should be parentheses 22:59:03 <Supercheese> I have: 22:59:04 <Supercheese> switch(FEAT_OBJECTS, SELF, seagull_tile_check_switch, nearby_tile_water_class(0,0)) 22:59:08 <Supercheese> in one bit of code 22:59:32 <Supercheese> cf. https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Objects#Object_variables 23:01:58 <supermop> that gets me back to "'other_veh_curve_info' is not defined as a function." 23:02:22 <Supercheese> hm 23:02:25 <supermop> for "switch (FEAT_ROADVEHS, SELF, carrier_low_mid, other_veh_curve_info(-1) ){ 23:05:20 <supermop> like am i crazy? is that variable not actually even in nml? 23:06:05 <LordAro> time to go look at the source 23:06:07 <Supercheese> it might be for trains only 23:06:09 <Supercheese> or somethin 23:06:20 <LordAro> variables that have arguments... aren't normally called variables though 23:06:22 <LordAro> those are functions 23:06:42 <Supercheese> "variables with parameter" could be a better term 23:07:08 <Supercheese> which is in fact what is used for Objects as linked above 23:07:22 <Supercheese> hurrah for inconsistent nomenclature 23:09:50 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 23:09:54 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:11:36 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 23:18:44 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 23:20:08 <supermop> i guess i can try using var[0x62, etc] instead 23:24:36 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:25:16 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 23:27:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:37:26 <Thedarkb> Who made the 2cc pack? 23:44:49 <supermop> 2cc trains? 23:45:30 <supermop> many people over many years, many of whom are no longer active 23:49:03 <supermop> the forum topic would say 23:50:50 <supermop> ooops: Unrecognized identifier 'PALETTE_CC_DARK_ORANGE' encountered 23:51:01 <supermop> too bad there is no dark orange 23:52:07 <supermop> 'PALETTE_CC_PALE_BROWN' 23:52:36 <supermop> the cc brown is already pretty pale, wonder what pale brown would be 23:53:33 <supermop> oh man 23:53:35 <Thedarkb> Since I last used it, they added a bunch of trains from my homeland. 23:53:46 <supermop> "'PALETTE_CC_LIGHT_WHITE" 23:55:12 <Thedarkb> But they have the reliability of the 001 class up way too high 23:55:24 <Thedarkb> It's at 83% on my game and it should really be 20% 23:55:29 <Thedarkb> Not kidding 23:55:40 <Supercheese> >playing with breakdowns enabled 23:55:45 <Thedarkb> They used military surplus marine engines and they fell apart in use. 23:55:46 <Supercheese> unless it's that improved breakdowns patch 23:55:54 <Thedarkb> Nah, I don't personally on my server. 23:55:58 <Thedarkb> Just an observation. 23:56:11 <supermop> ok day_of_year is not a real thing 23:56:19 <Supercheese> yeah, reliability is rarely balanced by authors, I'd expect 23:56:35 <Thedarkb> I'd like to see some other Irish trains added. 23:56:47 <Thedarkb> The 071 class is kind of iconic. 23:56:57 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 23:57:35 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: so i think i found your problem 23:57:36 <supermop> needed a current_ 23:57:44 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not "curve_info" 23:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it's "curv_info" 23:57:58 <supermop> god damn it 23:58:16 <Thedarkb> I can't really do pixel art though so it's not going to happen.