Log for #openttd on 1st October 2018:
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11:23:30  <Heiki> how should I go about fixing an error in the Finnish translation (STR_ORDER_CONDITIONAL_COMPARATOR_LESS_EQUALS is translated as “is greater than”)?
11:29:35  <LordAro>
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11:32:12  <Heiki> registered and logged in and tried that, but it only tells me “Access denied” when I try to do something
11:34:00  <LordAro> i imagine you've not been approved by the mysterious translation manager
11:35:17  <Heiki> should I just wait or does the mysterious translation manager want something from me?
11:36:44  <LordAro> mostly likely the former
11:37:09  <LordAro> it's likely no one's looked at the mailbox recently
11:38:31  <Heiki> and I only registered half an hour ago
11:44:21  <LordAro> well then
11:51:35  <Samu> Rubidium wrote: For some technical reasons we can't suspend squirrel while it is running a Valuate.
11:51:38  <Samu> :(
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12:18:43  <Samu> @calc (5000 / (2048 * 2048)) * 4096 * 4096
12:18:43  <DorpsGek> Samu: 20000
12:21:01  <Samu> inb4 commit message failure
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13:42:39  <andythenorth> o/
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13:46:10  <Eddi|zuHause> you don't want to know what happened to the last finnish guy who looked for the translation manager...
13:49:47  <Heiki> eek
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14:01:23  <Samu> I have a dilema
14:01:54  <andythenorth> hmm
14:02:02  <andythenorth> is newgrf completion pareto compliant?
14:02:09  <andythenorth> I am nearly at 80%
14:02:21  <andythenorth> which might suggest I'm less than halfway
14:03:22  <Eddi|zuHause> very likely
14:03:53  <Samu> can there be multiple pull requests per issue?
14:04:11  <Samu> or shall I post them in the same pull request?
14:04:36  <Samu> I have 2 patches here
14:04:54  <Samu> oops, not this link
14:05:09  <LordAro> same pull request, preferably
14:05:10  <Samu> here
14:05:30  <Samu> but the title :(
14:05:49  <LordAro> wait, is that 2 separate solutions to the same issue?
14:05:56  <LordAro> (PR titles can be changed)
14:06:12  <Samu> no, but they can go along together fine
14:07:47  <Samu> the go to takeoff if no hangar prevents the helicopter being stuck at the heliport
14:07:56  <Samu> at the airport
14:09:01  <Samu> the other, will make the orders go to hangar to disappear when replacing an airport with another without hangar
14:09:36  <Samu> or was it (Invalid Order)
14:09:43  <Samu> something like that, I can't recaçç
14:09:45  <Samu> rcall
14:11:43  <Samu> they complement each other, but is not required to have both for it to work
14:12:02  <Samu> so i dunno if i make a separate pull request
14:13:29  <Samu> as for the savegame conversion, I didn't do anything about it
14:13:39  <Samu> loading old saves where helicopters are stuck, will remain stuck
14:14:40  <Samu> i'm not confident enough to fix that
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14:21:05  <LordAro> i'd probably say the same pull request then
14:21:19  <LordAro> it can always be removed
14:37:26  <Samu> that means, complement it?
14:37:53  <Samu> it would be patched upon the first one
14:38:06  <LordAro> yeah
14:38:31  <Samu> but they could be separate
14:38:37  <Samu> hmm oh well
14:38:47  <LordAro> but they fix the same issue
14:38:54  <Samu> ok
14:38:55  <Samu> ok
14:39:06  <Samu> so be it
14:39:16  <LordAro> it doesn't make much of a difference (it's git, branches & commits are cheap)
14:39:22  <LordAro> but that's my opinion
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14:41:09  <Alberth> hi hi
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14:41:53  <andythenorth> lo Alberth
14:42:23  <Alberth> hola andy
14:52:44  <Samu> hmm, Change or Fix?
14:53:02  <Samu> i hate commit messages, slows me down too much :p
14:54:11  <Samu> feels more like a change rather than a fix
14:54:37  <Samu> guess I'll go with fix
14:55:39  <Samu> help, i can't make my mind up
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15:02:28  <Samu> there it goes...
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16:30:37  <Samu> I got a weird error just now
16:31:15  <Samu>
16:31:57  <Samu> that was AdmiralAI server
16:32:06  <Samu> for the AI competition
16:32:13  <Samu> think it's the first time I've ever seen that happening
16:33:33  <Samu> from an AI
16:34:25  <Samu> server log: ‎*** Player has left the game (desync error)
16:36:34  <Samu> Player is me, I was only spectating
16:36:40  <Samu> no company
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16:37:44  <Samu> unsure if hibernation could have caused it, system was resumed from yesterday night
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16:38:48  <Samu> but all the other 7 openttds  are still spectating
16:39:01  <Samu> only this one desynced :(
16:45:29  <Samu> doesn't matter much, I'm in again
16:45:56  <LordAro> ooh, that's interesting
16:46:00  <LordAro> desync errors shouldn't happen ever
16:46:36  <Samu> b/src/station_cmd.cpp:2459: Use tabs for indentation: '           dock.'
16:46:43  <Samu> wtf is a indentation
16:46:49  <Samu> brb google
16:47:04  <andythenorth> oof
16:47:27  <LordAro> andythenorth: ikr
16:47:44  <andythenorth> I am not a lot better
16:49:35  <Samu> ah, I see
16:49:38  <Samu> a missing asterisc
16:49:40  <Samu> really...
16:55:36  <Samu> why is it failing now?
16:55:47  <Samu>
16:55:56  <Samu> the asterisk is there
16:56:03  <Samu> still complains about the same thing
16:57:55  <Samu> enters panic mode :|
16:57:59  <Samu> halp
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16:58:58  <Alberth> moin
16:59:06  <Wolf01> o/
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16:59:39  <andythenorth> Samu: tabs vs spaces
16:59:46  <andythenorth> your editor is inserting spaces probs
16:59:49  <andythenorth> but you need tabs
17:01:17  <LordAro> andythenorth: i think it's probably the other way round, given what line it's on
17:01:23  <LordAro> tabs after spaces
17:01:49  <LordAro> there will be a button somewhere to show tabs and spaces
17:02:16  <andythenorth> oof
17:02:59  <Samu> the editor is Atom
17:03:29  <Samu> let me open in Notepad++
17:05:08  <Samu> they're all spaces
17:05:47  <Samu> seems that the commit checker dude only care about the first commit
17:08:05  <Samu> not familiar with Atom, but it seems that they're all spaces too
17:08:16  <Samu> it's the commit checker dude!
17:12:21  <Samu> what must I do now? the rebase interactive refix again?
17:15:22  <andythenorth> probably
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17:31:49  <LordAro> Samu: i'd recommend it
17:33:15  <Samu> ok, i'm on it
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17:35:24  <Samu> oh i forgot the last command
17:35:38  <Samu> pushing with force
17:36:10  <Samu> git push -f isn't it?
17:36:13  <LordAro> yup
17:37:09  <Samu> great, I'm becoming a pro in this Lol
17:37:34  <Samu> or maybe not? :(
17:38:00  <Samu> er i better wait
17:38:14  <Wolf01> More pro than me for sure :P
17:38:26  <LordAro> "The commit looks good"
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17:38:49  <Samu> i saw 3 commits for a second
17:38:53  <Samu> now it's 1
17:39:05  <Samu> weird stuff happening in the background
17:40:01  <andythenorth> quak
17:40:13  <LordAro> Samu: yeah, that's github
17:40:18  <LordAro> if things look weird, refresh
17:40:59  <frosch123> moi
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18:34:11  <frosch123> in case someone missed it: redmine runs again
18:41:45  <Samu> can't i have that docker dude on my system?
18:42:00  <Samu> he likes to fail my commits
18:42:14  <Samu> so instead of failing there, it fails here
18:46:12  <LordAro> you actually can
18:46:17  <LordAro> well, mostly
18:47:06  <LordAro> basically, copy the contents of the hooks directory into <ottd checkout>/.git/hooks
18:49:18  <andythenorth> frosch123: \o/
18:49:43  <andythenorth> hmm was that why jenkins won't log me in?
18:50:02  <andythenorth> hmm no
18:50:25  <frosch123> no, it was just redmine
18:50:51  <frosch123> disk was full, deleted the logs, 1/3 free again
18:51:21  <frosch123> repeat in 8 years
18:51:35  <andythenorth> ha
18:51:42  <andythenorth> wonder what's up with jenkins :P
18:51:58  <frosch123> jenkins always had manual user setup iirc
18:52:01  <frosch123> so only few can login
18:53:07  <andythenorth> has anyone considered a new build farm? o_O
18:53:15  <andythenorth> maybe TrueBrain has an opinion :P
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18:54:38  <frosch123> i think i started a cxfreeze farm to build nml binaries
18:54:46  <frosch123> probably did not get far :p
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18:56:24  <Samu> this .git directory must be hidden
18:56:31  <Samu> i blame windows
18:56:32  <LordAro> yeah
18:56:37  <LordAro> well, it is normally
18:56:49  <LordAro> (files starting with . are hidden on linux as well)
18:57:50  <Samu> woah windows 10 made showing hidden files much simple
18:59:06  <Samu> there's a bunch of *.sample files here
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18:59:52  <LordAro> you can ignore those
18:59:58  <LordAro> they are, as you might guess, samples
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19:06:48  <Samu> tortoise svn is telling me there's 2 failed hunks but is not showing me them, grr
19:07:01  <LordAro> probably because you're using svn :p
19:07:07  <LordAro> i promise you can apply patches with git
19:07:26  <LordAro> well, i guess it's not because you're using svn
19:07:28  <LordAro> but it doesn't help
19:07:43  <Samu> i'm applying them on trunk, then move entire src into github version
19:07:55  <LordAro> ew
19:08:03  <glx> easier to apply in git
19:08:25  <Samu> it complains about end of line stuff for a while, but then Atom magically makes that disappear
19:08:38  <Samu> and only leaves me with the changes I made
19:10:11  <LordAro> Samu: run `git config --global core.autocrlf true` in git bash/cmd
19:10:29  <LordAro> and then stop using svn :p
19:13:09  <LordAro> also try git kraken
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19:17:05  <Samu> I did that, but nothing seemed to happen
19:18:10  <LordAro> it should help with things in future
19:18:18  <LordAro> (it tells git how to handle line endings)
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19:43:00  <andythenorth> so
19:43:23  <andythenorth> electric engine pantographs
19:46:06  <andythenorth> are missing in original game
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20:00:25  <muetD> hello
20:04:50  <nielsm> hi
20:08:48  <andythenorth> is it BAD FEATURES if electric engine pantograph only goes up on elrail?
20:09:07  <andythenorth> it's utterly pointless, as they won't be powered on non-elrail :P
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20:14:23  <nielsm> that would be a good detail to pay attention to imo
20:14:50  <andythenorth>  it's not very hard to do
20:14:53  <andythenorth> just adds complexity
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21:18:24  <Samu> I'm preparing a yapf, npf, opf pull request
21:18:32  <Samu> what would the tittle be?
21:18:47  <Samu> Fix/Feature?
21:20:14  <Samu> Fix #5713: [YAPF/NPF/OPF] ?
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21:20:37  <Samu> Fix #5713: [YAPF/NPF/OPF] Use pathfinder to find closest ship depot
21:20:42  <Samu> good title?
21:21:34  <Samu> or is it a feature?
21:25:04  <LordAro> just drop the [...]
21:25:31  <acklen> beat?
21:25:42  <LordAro> ;)
21:25:58  <Samu> ok
21:26:31  <Samu> Fix #5713: Use pathfinder to find closest ship depot
21:26:42  <LordAro> sure
21:26:43  <Samu> pathfinders
21:26:47  <Samu> or just pathfinder
21:26:50  <LordAro> can always be renamed :p
21:27:09  <LordAro> singular is fine, imo
21:27:24  <Samu> ok
21:30:32  <Samu> alright, let's see if the docker thing works locally
21:30:59  <Samu> Commit failed - exit code 1 received, with output: 'Don't run this script from the command line.  (if you want, you could supply GIT_DIR)'
21:31:09  <Samu> what is this
21:31:15  <LordAro> (don't call it the docker thing, that's something else (basically just compiles it on lots of different OSes)
21:31:18  <LordAro> uh
21:31:39  <Samu> commit checker
21:32:45  <Samu> this is an error i got when i clicked commit on github desktop
21:32:55  <Samu> local
21:33:23  <Samu> wait, let me show
21:33:24  <LordAro> i bet that's github desktop screwing with it
21:33:27  <LordAro> try git gui
21:33:31  <glx> not sure the commit checker can run on windows
21:33:42  <Samu>
21:34:01  <Wolf01> 'night
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21:34:42  <LordAro> i think glx is right
21:34:47  <LordAro> might work in git bash
21:37:39  <Samu> was hoping I wouldn't have to use command line stuff for everything
21:37:40  <LordAro> otherwise you'll have to delete those files you put in .git/hook
21:40:13  <Samu> deleted
21:41:06  <LordAro> you'll just have to learn to amend & rebase instead :p
21:41:14  <LordAro> or get it right the first time ;)
21:45:50  <Samu> hmm NPF is a damn jack of all trades
21:47:44  <Samu> okay i got a dilema
21:48:10  <Samu> i implemented a max_penalty for all pathfinders
21:48:16  <Samu> opf only deals with ships
21:48:24  <Samu> but npf is the problem
21:49:05  <Samu> i had to adapt that max_penalty also for trains and road vehicles
21:49:16  <Samu> code rework kind of thing
21:49:42  <Samu> yapf, on the other hand had it already implemented for trains, but not for road vehicles, this patch implements it for ships
21:49:47  <Samu> what should I do?
21:50:34  <Samu> to make npf find closest ship depot, it uses this penatly, but apparently it would also be used for road vehicles and trains
21:50:53  <Samu> can't do it without the penatly
21:51:37  <Samu> while the patch mainly focus on fixing ships, i had to touch the other parts :|
21:51:45  <Samu> erm... confused?
21:51:52  <LordAro> is there an existing issue?
21:51:58  <LordAro> or pull request
21:52:03  <LordAro> if so, ask there
21:52:12  <LordAro> someone will get around to answering it at some point
21:52:39  <LordAro> it also shows that someone's thought about the issue
21:54:47  <Samu> i also have writen code for the yapf road vehicle max penalty, not sure if I put it in? yapf is different than npf in that it can be separated
21:55:54  <Samu> my dilema is "if I did it for npf, why not for yapf as well"
21:56:21  <Samu> it's road
21:56:25  <Samu> that's why
21:56:34  <Samu> and the patch is about ships, not roads
21:58:07  <Samu> well, i'll post all of it
21:58:15  <Samu> hope u guys have a really good code reviewer
22:05:12  <Samu> mm nah, i'm gonna make this a different pull request for yapf
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23:03:11  <Samu> arf... this is a hg patch
23:03:18  <Samu> can't use svn
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23:05:35  <Samu> problem solved

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